Bernie Sanders

Clinton Super Delegates Aggravated by Sanders Supporters Trying to Lobby Them

Website launched to target super delegates yields non-specific complaints about "threats"

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Hillary Clinton has a 200+ pledged delegate lead over Bernie Sanders in the Democratic primary process. In the primaries and caucuses so far, she's received more than 2 million more votes than Sanders has, despite losing seven of the last eight contests to the Independent Senator who caucuses with Democrats.

Clinton's failure to close the door on Sanders has led to increasingly frustrated statements and behavior on both sides. Last week, Clinton suggested that she "wasn't even sure" whether Sanders was a Democrat. He's not—there's nothing there to be unsure about. In New York, she blamed Vermont for gun violence in a ridiculous argument that's misleading even by the standards of the generally misleading anti-gun rhetoric on the left.

Sanders hasn't fared much better. The Occupy Wall Street-informed "1 percent" rhetoric has taken Sanders about as far as it can take him. Last week he suggested Hillary Clinton wasn't "qualified" to be president because she took money from "Wall Street," a metonym for the entire financial and investment industry in the country. Americans employed in the financial sector have been donating money in favor of their preferred presidential candidates for a long time. Sanders and Democrats' anti-speech stance toward money in politics notwithstanding, who might support someone doesn't on its own disqualify anyone from running for office.

Given all this, more than two months into the voting phase of the Democratic primaries, the core demographic appears to be the low-information voter. The latest Idiocracy-level non-issue for Clinton and Sanders supporters to argue over is engagement of "super delegates," the 716 members of the Democratic Party who participate in the Democratic National Convention as unpledged delegates, free to vote for whomever they please. Sanders supporters, unsurprisingly, would like to see more of these super delegates support Sanders. Only 38 of the more than 500 super delegates who have verbally committed to a candidate have committed to Sanders so far, with Clinton super delegates remaining in virtually every state that Sanders has won so far. Even the governor of Vermont, a super delegate, is supporting Clinton.

One Sanders supporter set up a website, superdelegatehitlist.com, to help other Sanders supporters target super delegates and try to lobby them to support Sanders. The website's founder, Spencer Thayer, did not vote for Sanders in his home state of Illinois because there was a closed primary and Thayer is not a registered Democrat, according to the Washington Post, and described the site as "aimed at harassing Democratic super delegates" when soliciting support on Twitter to first design it.

Some Democratic super delegates, notably ones who support Clinton, are up in arms. They say the website, which has since launch changed its name to super delegatelist.com, has led to threats. But none of the super delegates the Washington Post interviewed actually reported any threat they received themselves.

Super delegate Bob Mulholland wrote a letter to Sanders complaining about his supporters contacting him and other delegates. "Society has been trying to deal with High School bullies and the same Rule should apply to your campaign and your supporters," he wrote, offering no direct evidence of any threats and saying only that other super delegates have complained about being harassed. "Professionally, campaign staff and representatives should be the ones calling delegates," he continued.

Imagine that. Party functionaries whose primary source of income is attaching themselves to the workings of government in an effort to acquire more power are upset that the hoi polloi might call back.  Insofar as Democrats are responsible for wrecking cities they've had one-part control over for decades, those who lead those parties who should be hearing more from the people whose lives and communities they are ruining, not less. That they complain when animated supporters call during a presidential season betrays the kind of thin-skin people attracted to government tend to have, which accounts for a lot of the silly high-mindedness and resultant nanny state-type rules that flow from them.

One of Mulholland's complaints was that a 12-year-old (a 12-year-old!) picked up the phone when one super delegate got a phone call from a Sanders supporter. Blaming the person making a phone call not the person picking it up, and treating a 12-year-old picking up a phone as something problematic in the first place, is illustrative of the kind of mentality that's driven so much of the nanny state policies that define Democrats today.

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  1. Might want to give this ona enother. Pass, Ed.

    1. Tupla, Ed has more important things to worry about, like the fact that he has been surpassed on alt text leaderboard by Shackford, and even worse he has recently been bested by a couple of broads. I mean, chicks aren’t supposed to be witty. He better get his shit together before he falls behind Old Man Gillespie and his strange gif fetish.

  2. Insofar as Democrats are responsible for wrecking cities they’ve had one-part control over for decades, those who lead those parties who should be hearing more from the people whose lives and communities they are ruining, not less.

    My Democratic friends assure me that those responsible for wrecking decades long Democratic single party cities like Flint and Detroit are the libertarians who privatized city services and paid companies to add poison to drinking water.

    1. Gorram it! How did they get on to us?!?

      1. Well, we do travel around town carried by orphans. The top hats and monocles don’t help either.

        1. Those are called “sedan chairs”.

    2. The libertarians who have no power and no control in those cities somehow managed to convince the Democrats, who do have power and control, to do these things? Really?

      1. Just sat Koch brothers a lot.

        Settled?

        1. “say”?

          1. I think he was saying that he lets the Koch brothers sit on his face.

            1. Get out of my bedroom!!
              Fucking Republicans, I tell ya.

          2. I blame the keyboard. Yes. “Say” or “chant” or what have you.

      2. We’re diabolical, aren’t we?

  3. the core demographic appears to be the low-information voter.

    I sense a pattern in the Force here…

    1. This demographic is yuuuuge?

  4. It is fun watching from a safe distance. Through the tubes of the Internet.

    1. The entire shitshow that is election 2016 has been fun to watch. I suspect the fun will end on January 20th, 2017 when either Shrillary or The Donald has been sworn in as the next president though.

  5. Superdelegate Bob Mulholland wrote a letter to Sanders complaining about his supporters contacting him and other delegates. “Society has been trying to deal with High School bullies and the same Rule should apply to your campaign and your supporters,” he wrote, offering no direct evidence of any threats and saying only that other superdelegates have complained about being harassed. “Professionally, campaign staff and representatives should be the ones calling delegates,” he continued.

    Shorter Bob Mulholland: “Waaaaaaaaaah.”

    Sorry, Bobby, but politics is a dirty game. Nobody is forcing you to play. But having chosen to play, you are now whining that someone broke no enumerated rules but failed to follow tradition.

    1. do superdelegates need safe spaces, too? My lord, it seems that anyone on the left is no more than a pants-wetting child.

  6. “Look, we’re totally the party of the downtrodden, just so long as…you know…we don’t have to actually come into contact with those people in any way.”

  7. “The latest Idiocracy-level non-issue for Clinton and Sanders supporters to argue over is engagement of “superdelegates”.

    Well, let’s not go overboard. The Republicans are susceptible to arguments over truly ridiculous notions like honesty and integrity.

    1. And finger length. Don’t forget finger length.

  8. One of Mulholland’s complaints was that a 12-year-old (a 12-year-old!) picked up the phone when one superdelegate got a phone call from a Sanders supporter.

    They should have been able to converse on the same level, though.

    1. [golf clap]

    2. They should have been able to converse on the same level, though.

      Delegate: Who was it honey?
      12-year-old: I dunno, sounded like one of those fucking BernBros. though.
      Delegate: Language!

      Seriously, I’m still trying to purge ‘Deez Nuts’ from the broodlings’ vocabulary.

  9. a 12-year-old (a 12-year-old!) picked up the phone when one superdelegate got a phone call from a Sanders supporter.

    That makes it sound like the superdelegate had a 12 year old answering the phones. Why the superdelegate is complaining about this is a mystery.

    1. Child labor violation?

    2. Why is a 12 year old allowed to answer the phone? This is poor parenting – the caller could be a pedophile or a guy looking for Girl Scout cookies or even someone wanting to shout “Trump 2016” into the phone.

      1. I “laughed”

      2. +1 Creech

      3. someone wanting to shout “Trump 2016” into the phone

        Please God, let this become a viral prank phone call that takes off: calling random people, shouting TRUMP 2016! and hanging up. This needs to happen!

    3. a 12 year old answering phones for him? What is he, a libertarian or something?

      1. This one made me actually laugh out loud. 😀

    4. Back in my day children were seen and not heard, and that includes answering an adult phone intended for adult conversation.

      1. You can always tell a Milford man!

      2. That’s funny, because when i was growing up it was the kids who answered the phone, so Mom and Dad didn’t have to run across the house.

        And, after answering, we would scream “Mom!” or “Dad!” at the top of our lungs, right into the handset.

        1. “right into the handset”

          Heh. Good times.

        2. Reminds me of this

  10. These super-delegates fucking love democracy.

    1. These super-delegates love fucking democracy.

      FTFY

  11. Sorta On Topic since Cankles is a fierce anti-gunner:

    My wife put the TV on a movie, ‘Runaway Jury’. I tried to pay attention but the movie is filled with anti-gun screeds and it is just awful. It is incredible to me how dishonest the anti-gun people are and yet it never occurs to them that the lying gives away that they don’t have a case worth making.

    Of course, that is true for every single plank in the Dem platform. This is in contrast to the R’s who have some good planks, their problem is that they are lying about enacting them.

    The political class is shit and we need them to go.

    1. Sorta On Topic since Cankles is a fierce anti-gunner:

      What does this have to do with Nancy Reagan?

    2. Oh. The movie came out in 2003, a year before the totally ineffective assault weapons ban was to expire. The event that precipitated the civil trial in the movie was a fictional mass shooting in which the shooter used an ‘assault pistol’ with a 36 round magazine and with a ‘print resistant’ finish.

      *facepalm*

      1. A few years ago I wrote a letter to the editor, complimenting the Portsmouth Herald for a relatively even handed article about people buying AR-15’s when Eric Holder was saber-rattling about bringing back the assault weapons ban. The author had hinted their concerns were imaginary, but I pointed out that Holder was in fact lobbying and Obama did in fact have an anti-gun record in Illinois. Someone wrote a rebuttal accusing me of being “hysterical”.

      2. with a 36 round magazine

        Please tell me it was .50 calibre and the magazine was 5″ long?

      3. Why does a phaser even need anything besides a ‘stun’ setting?

        1. Because you might encounter conservatives in which case the “kill” setting is appropriate.

          Or worse? libertarians in which case the “destroy everything within 3 meters” setting is appropriate and the 6 meter diameter whole is the fault of the libertarian.

    3. The movement left will lie (or at least deceive) unrepentantly about anything if it serves their purposes. If they think they have social pressure or propaganda on their side, they’ll even BS about things that are trivially disproven. It’s one reason that Hillary’s dishonesty doesn’t harm her popularity with them, and it’s also one reason that there is a such a permanent rift in society — once people realize they don’t ever argue in good faith, they don’t ever waste their time with argument (with the priesthood, that is. The laity are mostly the victims of deception, and are better at responding to rational argument).

  12. superdelegatehitlist.com

    Whoever came up with that name is a fucking retard. But I suppose that’s no revelation.

      1. Thank you, Mr. Juggler.

      2. Whoever.

        Unless you say “Him came up with that name”.

      3. I’d’ve gone with “Whomsoever”.

        1. A wise choice, irregardless of convention…….

          1. For all intensive purposes, I think it does the job.

    1. Yeah, that wasn’t too bright, but consider that we’re dealing with Bern victims here. According to TFA, they did change the name to omit “hit”.

      1. I assume they kind of were forced to. When you have delegates complaining about threats, real or not, it doesn’t reflect well on you to be running a site called superdelegatehitlist.com. I guess foresight is not this Bern victim’s strong point.

    2. Did they put a map with target reticules on it? They’re just lucky there wasn’t a mass shooting they could be blamed for.

  13. One kid I supposedly bullied in high school (his hot sister told me I was a super bully because I gave him a nickname that stuck. It is not my fault that he deserved the nickname) later became valedictorian, so high school bullies can have a positive effect on society as well.

    1. How clever was the name?

      1. Not even that clever! It is not my fault that people are not creative and glom on to simplicity.

    2. Kudos.

      I was myself something of a journeyman moving in between groups of ‘bullied’ and the bullies as conditions merited. On one day i would rescue a person from a soul-scarring wedgie; on the next i would be the hand that held them underwater while their swim trunks were ripped off. It was a complex, ever-changing environment with no clear moral compass… sort of like a teenage Game of Thrones.

      1. Sounds like the script for Meatballs

      2. So… exactly like being a teenager?

        1. yeah, basically. but I think what “teenage life” entailed has changed a lot since the 1980s.

          I think what i might have thought of as an “average day” at age 13 would be the kind of thing that landed a kid and his family in court these days.

    3. Plus, those kids you drove to suicide needed to be culled from the herd.

  14. Batshit-Crazy-Man vs. Super-Delegate-Man?

    1. Delegate man, delegate man,
      Voting the votes a delegate can……….

  15. who might support someone doesn’t on its own disqualify anyone from running for office

    That’s what I keep saying.

    /David Duke

  16. Its funny. When a Trumpalo makes the same gesture that Sanders is in the pic, its all “Hitler!”.

    When a socialist does it, even one with certain nationalist leanings, its all crickets.

    Huh.

  17. the core demographic appears to be the low-information voter

    You could say that about both parties’ primaries. And the general election. Actually, every election in history.

    1. At a certain tipping point, you go from ‘low-information voter’ to ‘high-information cynic and drug abuser’.

      Then comes Reason? blog poster…and oblivion

      1. So, just one step to go before the sweet release of death then. Awesome.

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