Bernie Sanders

Liberals and Conservatives Should Reject Sanders

His policies come from a fantasy world.

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Sanders
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In the polarized environment of modern American politics, there aren't many things that liberals and conservatives agree on. But they should be able to join hands and lift their voices in unison to say, "Bernie Sanders will not do." 

Congress has plenty of members who stand left of center, but despite serving 16 years in the House and nine in the Senate, he's gotten the endorsement of only a handful. Vermont's other senator and its governor, both Democrats, have endorsed Hillary Clinton. 

Former Rep. Barney Frank, one of the most accomplished liberal lawmakers of our time, doesn't have much use for him. "Bernie Sanders has been in Congress for 25 years with little to show for it in terms of his accomplishments," he told Slate. That, he told The Washington Post, is because he is "very wary of compromise and of accepting less than you want." 

The 2010 Dodd-Frank law, which Frank co-authored, was described by The Washington Post as "the most ambitious overhaul of financial regulation in generations." Yet Sanders proclaims, "Congress does not regulate Wall Street. Wall Street regulates Congress." 

Frank's response in Politico: "When my 2010 opponent was greeted by cheers on the floor of the New York Stock Exchange during our campaign, and major financial operators like Carl Icahn and David Einhorn maxed out to him to punish me for our legislation, I don't think any of them agreed with Sanders that Wall Street had somehow been regulating us." 

Frank faults him for acting as though nothing big has been accomplished under Barack Obama—who, besides Dodd-Frank, pushed through the Affordable Care Act and raised the top marginal income tax rate from 35 percent to 39.6 percent.

Liberals have other reasons to be leery. Sanders portrays climate change as "the single greatest threat facing our planet" even as he demands a ban on fracking. But the main reason the United States has been able to reduce carbon emissions in recent years is that we have replaced coal with natural gas—which has become more abundant thanks to fracking. 

He proposes more than doubling the minimum wage, to $15. But Princeton economist Alan Krueger, whose research suggests a $12 floor would not destroy jobs, says a $15 national minimum "could well be counterproductive." 

Sanders thinks anything worth doing is worth overdoing. But his all-or-nothing attitude, Frank contends, "makes it less likely" that progressives will succeed in moving society in the direction they want. 

That may be the only consolation for non-liberals and anyone else distrustful of an all-powerful government. Sanders says he believes in "democratic socialism" but has room in his heart for the other kind. In the 1980s, he praised the Marxist-Leninist regimes in Cuba and Nicaragua. 

His loathing is reserved for capitalism. His inability to explain his plan to break up big banks in an interview at the New York Daily News was confirmation that on anything to do with economics, he is guided purely by ideology. 

He says our private health insurance system is the reason "we spend almost twice as much per capita on health care as do the people of any other country." PolitiFact noted that our per capita cost is just 38 percent more than that of Switzerland, the next highest. Some countries with lower spending rely heavily on private insurance. 

He has only contempt for any U.S. company that would move production to China or Mexico just "to make even more money." He doesn't grasp that if a U.S. company doesn't shift production to raise profits, its foreign rivals may do so—and put it out of business. Sanders assumes that earnings grow on trees. 

His fiscal realm is a zero-gravity environment. His tax plan would raise the top marginal rate to a confiscatory 77 percent—almost certainly stifling economic growth, not to mention reducing revenue from what it would be at lower rates. 

On spending, he offers a fiesta of extravagance: free college, paid family leave, Medicare-for-all, an across-the-board increase in Social Security benefits. The bipartisan Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget says they could add $15 trillion to the national debt over a decade. Even liberal economists have characterized his budget agenda as a joke. 

Sensible voters on the left and the right will decline the suspension of disbelief his campaign invites. In the unlikely event he wins the election, Sanders won't announce, "I'm going to Disney World." He lives in his own magic kingdom. 

© Copyright 2016 by Creators Syndicate Inc. 

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  1. You’re insulting fantasy worlds dude.

    1. All politicians construct fantasy worlds, so they’re hard too insult — too many of them. Sanders is no different in this regard than the others. The main thing going for him is that he is not a war criminal, not a fascist, not a professional racist and bigot, and not a religious fanatic. If he still sticks in your craw, I guess you can vote Libertarian or Green or for your dog. But if you want a Republican or a Democrat, he seems to be the last decent human being standing.

      1. You have a point if you blank out the fact that every politician who identifies him or herself as socialist stands consciously and willingly on a pile of bodies that number in the hundreds of millions.
        As far as I’m concerned anyone who considers Sanders a serious option should be the last in the bread lines that his ilk create, and the first in line for his re-education camps.

      2. He’s a career politician so I’m not sure about the decency part. You also forgot the part about him being an authoritarian. He may not be one on the right side of the spectrum, but does the political persuasion of your firing squad really matter when you’re in their target?

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      4. The main thing going for him is that he is [?] not a fascist

        Sanders’s proposed reform of the Federal Reserve is eerily similar to the proposal for a Finance Corporation in The Coming Corporate State.

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    1. Where can I find a Communist? I don’t think I”ve seen one since 1982.

      1. Try CPUSA.org and there you will find the intellectual planners of the Democratic party.

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  3. I think that half of us should reject Sanders and the other half should reject Trump. Then we replay 1930s Germany – just need a vulnerable minority to scapegoat. Hmm…. who should be the modern day witches? I’m thinking illegal immigrants or muslims. Can someone go out and stir up trouble with them?

    1. When in doubt, go with the classics. Jews.

      1. That will never work. The Jews who run things would never let that happen.

        1. And the voice of the bigot is heard in our land.

          Oh, how it must anger you to realize that the Jews have survived 2,000 years of bigotry, discrimination, torture, murder, and forced conversion ? and not just survived, but thrived, contributing way beyond their meager numbers, to science and technology, mathematics, medicine, politics and the law, religion and morality, education, finance, music and entertainment, and literature ? while you, one day will die forgotten, having contributed nothing but hatred and bile.

          Oh how it must anger you.

          1. You need to recalibrate your sarcometer.

          2. New here, huh?

          3. I think it was a joke.

          4. What really angers nationalsocialists is the way nonchristian scientists they persecuted stood poised to blow them of the map after Der Fuehrer and his altruist buddies took poison and shot themselves. The reason I like Bernie is he is what the antiabortion, pro-tax, pro-war prohibitionists fear. As I cast my libertarian vote–with ten times the law-changing power–I cut into Rod Johnston’s changes of staying on that government payroll and bullying pregnant girls, hippies and brown folks. Prohibitionist fear is my good cheer!

            1. So your saying Sanders is pro-tax and pro other damaging policies? I think you might have misread his platform.

              1. **isn’t** pro-tax. I can’t find an edit button.

          5. Fk the Jews.

            1. It’s been tried. Hasn’t succeeded yet.
              What’s your point?

      2. If they weren’t always trying to ingratiate themselves into the global banking system, they wouldn’t be such an easy target.

        -left winger nut job
        -right winger nut job

        1. It’s not a line, it’s a loop. At the extremes, right and left tend to overlap. A lot.

      3. Yeah, they already blame the one percent.

        1. Good. We are the 1%–according to their unverifiable vote counts. And every LP spoiler vote is worth ten teevee zombie votes.

    2. Then Hillary would take up Adolf’s role?

    3. Then we replay 1930s Germany – just need a vulnerable minority to scapegoat.

      Well, we know who to always blame if things wrong: libertarians.

  4. But Princeton economist Alan Krueger, whose research suggests a $12 floor would not destroy jobs, says a $15 national minimum “could well be counterproductive.”

    Depends what you’re trying to produce. More people for a permanently unemployable underclass? Mission Accomplished!

    1. “My research suggests that while a drink of this could poison you, just a sip won’t hurt!”

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  7. Steve,

    So I should reject Bernie Sanders because Barney Frank doesn’t like Bernie’s criticism of his legislation and that the Democratic Party establishment doesn’t support him? Shouldn’t these two things argue in his favor? Maybe Franks’ criticism is based on sour grapes?

    You know, Steve, I talk with lots of liberals and I’d say its 50/50 on whether we should support the Democratic Party– at all, ever. I argue for yes in some cases, but sometimes it’s a difficult proposition.

    Do you think the main thrust of Sanders’ statements on Cuba and Nicaragua was on how we should abandon our towns to grow sugarcane on a kibbutz or to condemn Reagan and Bush’s imperialism in Central America?

    1. Welcome to Retardation: A Celebration. Now, hopefully, I’m gonna dispel a few myths, a few rumors. First off, the retarded don’t rule the night. They don’t rule it. Nobody does. And they don’t run in packs. And while they may not be as strong as apes, don’t lock eyes with ’em, don’t do it. Puts ’em on edge. They might go into berzerker mode; come at you like a whirling dervish, all fists and elbows. You might be screaming “No, no, no” and all they hear is “Who wants cake?” Let me tell you something: They all do. They all want cake.

      1. Wow, it’s been a while since I’ve seen that copy-paste carted out.

        1. It was time.

          1. Let me guess, you’d misplaced it and just found it again.

            1. Nah, just got tired of it for a while, but decided amsoc deverved it.

            2. I thought you were tired of that meme.

              *** ducks ***

          2. It’s nice to hear the hits sometimes.

    2. The democratic establishment doesn’t support Kim Jong Un either. Does that mean we should support him too, dumbass?

      1. Well, he does appear to be eating his country into famine… Socialists love famines, they create so many of them.

        1. Famines are an integral part of every good five-year plan.

          1. It is all part of their cleanse and purge regimen.

          2. So wait, they’re actually for food deserts…as long as the entire nation is the desert?

            That actually makes sense.

            1. “They would prefer the poor be poorer as long as the rich were less rich”

              It’s, like, equality, man.

      2. Bread lines are a sign of a healthy economy. “You know, it’s funny. Sometimes American journalists talk about how bad a country is when people are lining up for food. That’s a good thing. In other countries, people don’t line up for food. The rich get the food and the poor starve to death.”

        1. Stating the obvious – he’s flatly wrong, in the countries where people don’t have to queue for basic food, starvation is the least common problem faced, and a great many people are whining about the sheer number of fat people.

          Someone should shove the “obesity epidemic” talking points at him when he spews that blather.

        2. Wow. He actually did say that.

          Link: youtu.be/zJBjjP8WSbc

      3. “The democratic establishment doesn’t support Kim Jong Un either. Does that mean we should support him too, dumbass?”

        Why, yes. Yes it does.

    3. Do you think the main thrust of Sanders’ statements on Cuba and Nicaragua was on how we should abandon our towns to grow sugarcane on a kibbutz or to condemn Reagan and Bush’s imperialism in Central America?

      Little of this, little of that.

      Being rejected by Frank and the Democratic establishment is a point in Sanders’s favor, true. Unfortunately for him, he has an insurmountable point deficit to overcome, what with the economic, mathematical, and historical illiteracy he vomits forth every time he opens his cranky, stupid mouth.

    4. Observe that american nationalsocialists also refer to fellow looters as “liberals”–just like defeated Republican prohibitionists in 1932.

  8. A story about 21 future Sanders voters and one current Sanders voter.

    Fortunately there are no comments at the propaganda site.

    1. There’s no such thing as a “future Sanders Voter”. If he loses this election, he’ll have crumbled to dust by the next one. If he wins, there won’t be a next one.

      /hyperbole

    2. So……much……….DERP!

    3. So….assuming that isnt entirely fabricated…the suit goes forward and the kids have to show actual damages thus putting the entire phony baloney global warming horseshit under the spotlight?

      These dumb asses are true believers. The last thing the warmists want is for their con to be put under a microscope. I am guessing the suit will go off the rails before that happens.

      1. “Actual damages” in the modern political climate doesn’t mean real, calculable damages. Just ask somebody suing because the person they wanted to force to do business with them told them to go to the next person down the street.

        This loony-bird judge doesn’t care about the rule of law or shitloads of precedent. He cares about pushing his ideology.

      2. thus putting the entire phony baloney global warming horseshit under the spotlight?

        When the judge says “the science is settled and you cannot question it in your defense”, then what? Because he pretty much said in his preliminary ruling that that’s his position.

        1. You are correct. The judge is a looney but I suspect that “You can’t present a defense” isnt going to fly in the end.

          The kids made an specific allegation and that will have to be addressed. Looking at the photo I see a bunch of well fed, well groomed, well dressed kids. I also note that none have acne, scraggly hair, look too nerdy or goofy. They look like the cast from a Disney kid’s show. hmmmmm. Astroturf.

          1. A judge has a right to set the direction someone can go in their defense. They do it in pretty much every civil and criminal case heard. And if he decides that global warming “theories” are accepted science, he can forbid the government and fossil fuels companies from questioning them during the trial.

            1. He has to realize he’s giving them grounds to appeal before the process has even gotten going.

              1. The process is the punishment. He hopes to give these kids a win because he’s an ideologue.

            2. Because federal judges are in the best position to determine what accepted science is.

      3. Wow, that is scary. That person should not be a judge.

      4. Glowball warming is another looter religion, like communism. Read the Kyoto Protocol and observe the the word “China” is nowhere to be found on the list of countries to be billed for transfer payments to nonproducers. It’s another looter scam discredited daily–with graphs and published documnents– on the Real Science blog.

    4. That is some of the derpiest derp that ever derped.

    5. “A growing number of Americans are alarmed, and frustrated, that the fossil fuel devoted Republicans nationwide are winning a religious crusade to perpetuate the damage of anthropogenic climate change that President Obama seems to be fighting alone.”

      That made me laugh out loud.

  9. “but despite serving 16 years in the House and nine in the Senate, he’s gotten the endorsement of only a handful. Vermont’s other senator and its governor, both Democrats, have endorsed Hillary Clinton. Steve Chapman looks at why this is the case.
    View this article”

    There are so many reasons to dislike Bernie’s politics. However, being snubbed by the House of Corruption doesn’t seem to be one of them.

  10. In the polarized environment of modern American politics, there aren’t many things that liberals and conservatives agree on.

    Wrong! They might tell themselves that, but in fact they agree on almost everything that matters.

    1. The terms “liberal” and “conservative” have been so abused as to be unrecognizable.
      Both TEAMS love overwhelming state power. They differ a little on targets, but that’s about it.

    2. The only things they disagree on are the things they agree to disagree on because it drives their idiot voter base to continue voting for them. Because, if they don’t, their ‘pet’ issue will go to the other TEAM and your genitals might end up being sued by a Muslim cake wall or something.

      (And they disagree on which Corporations specifically they need to give handouts to because they have different friends and donors that need theirs.)

    3. Both wings of the DemoGOP are looter gangs who declare that freedom is divisible and that your earnings may be divvied among them.

  11. I wonder what goes through the heads of idiots who support a guy that loves bread lines. They think it is good that Bernie wants to get bread to hungry people? They don’t think they will be in those lines?

    It is insane that this guy got elected to anything, ever.

    1. “You know, it’s funny. Sometimes American journalists talk about how bad a country is when people are lining up for food. That’s a good thing. In other countries, people don’t line up for food. The rich get the food and the poor starve to death.”

      1. Have any of them taken note of which countries have people lining up for food and which have people starving to death?

        I can only conclude that Bernie is insane and his supporters delusional. Neither the insanity nor the delusion mitigates the evil of it.

        1. I heard a great line once, can’t recall who said it: “Every socialist I ever met believed, deep down, that when the Revolution finally comes, they’re gonna be the ones walking around with clipboards.” . So, no, Suthenboy, they don’t. The system will finally be properly aligned, you see. The fat cats are gonna have a heart attack, and the ones who don’t are up against the wall. They will remake the world. The degree of violence in their various fantasies will vary from person to person. Maybe a few just want to jail the bourgeoisie after robbing them (at least in the beginning: Prisons are expensive. Holes in the ground aren’t).

          It will always bear repeating. Two major truths are always at play when Leftists are involved:

          1) They will claim that it’s “for the good of all”, but when pressed, are never more than two breaths away from using themselves as an example: “This is what this policy is gonna do/has done FOR ME.”

          2) A re-tread of the old “wrecker/kulak” argument: “If we failed, it was because of the wicked obstuctionist schemers who de-railed our plans. We weren’t given enough latitude/authority/funding!”

    2. I heard a great line once, can’t recall who said it: “Every socialist I ever met believed, deep down, that when the Revolution finally comes, they’re gonna be the ones walking around with clipboards.” . So, no, Suthenboy, they don’t. The system will finally be properly aligned, you see. The fat cats are gonna have a heart attack, and the ones who don’t are up against the wall. They will remake the world. The degree of violence in their various fantasies will vary from person to person. Maybe a few just want to jail the bourgeoisie after robbing them (at least in the beginning: Prisons are expensive. Holes in the ground aren’t).

      It will always bear repeating. Two major truths are always at play when Leftists are involved:

      1) They will claim that it’s “for the good of all”, but when pressed, are never more than two breaths away from using themselves as an example: “This is what this policy is gonna do/has done FOR ME.”

      2) A re-tread of the old “wrecker/kulak” argument: “If we failed, it was because of the wicked obstuctionist schemers who de-railed our plans. We weren’t given enough latitude/authority/funding!”

    3. I wonder what goes through the heads of idiots who support a guy that loves bread lines

      I’d ask my in-laws, but I’m too polite.

      1. Nothing but teevee programming goes through the heads of people who vote for the Kleptocracy. Why d’ya think it’s called “thinking inside the box?”

  12. “…he is guided purely by ideology.”

    It’s totes better when we all know Hills is guided purely by graft.

  13. His policies come from a fantasy world.

    100 million+ Chinese, Ukrainian, Russian, Polish, Cambodian, etc. people will be so relieved to learn that their murders were just part of a fantasy.

    1. The fantasy world is the one where those murders don’t inevitably happen when you try Communism.

      1. And where you can somehow ignore that they happended
        and NOT be called a denier.

  14. I do think I do not want the same kind of focus on safety and soundness that we have in OCC [Office of the Comptroller of the Currency] and OTS [Office of Thrift Supervision]. I want to roll the dice a little bit more in this situation towards subsidized housing.

    /Barney Frank

  15. he is guided purely by ideology.

    You need to adjust your autocorrect settings. You misspelled “idiocy”.

    1. Nah, if he was guided purely by idiocy he’d at least be less predictable and dull.

  16. Did you seriously write an article attacking Sanders because Barney Frank doesn’t like him? That is the problem with a senile, moronic communist? The fact that the co sponsor of Dodd-Frank doesn’t like him? Apparently my browser is reading Readson as MSNBC.

    1. Jesus, dude, it’s not even 9am yet and there’s nothing to drink in this office!

    2. It’s Steve Chapman. He’s always kind of lame and he doesn’t work for Reason. Not sure why they have stuck with his column for so long.

      1. He was one of CATO’s “Byline” commentors too. I don’t know. Maybe the point is that he tolerates libertarians better than other columnists do.

      2. He used to be a moderate libertarian many years ago. Now he’s full derp Dem, as long as they’re socially liberal.

    3. Start reading the second half of the article where it starts “Liberals have other reasons to be leery.”

      1. You mean the Sanders takes our good ideas too far part?

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  18. Bernie Sanders isn’t the problem. Anyone with a 6th grade education knows Socialism and Communism just doesn’t work. The problem is that most kids graduating from college don’t have a 6th grade education. It was bad enough that before the 1960s Hollywood, schools and the Media promoted nationalism and Manifest Destiny to whip the population up to fight every senseless war that came along. When the educated youth of the 60s saw through the Government’s smoke and mirrors. Our leaders decided a well educated population was detrimental to their welfare. The Progressives took over the Education system and started promoting the Nanny State. If you have any doubts about what I am saying the next time you run into a Bernie supporter ask them to point to their home state on a map or make change for a dollar without pulling out their IPhone The America of your grandfather is dead and the Zombie land is alive and well.

    1. It is not the level of education. It is the idealism.

      College and the ‘real world’ used to be allowed to tamp down idealism and temper that fire to change the world into something useful. Now, college directs it towards deeper fantasy because kids who are told they are right all the time don’t cause trouble and happily pay handily for the pablum. Harsh reality is a thing of the past.

      this is Bernie in a nutshell. He is peddling the fantasy that these poor misguided yutes love to hear. If he was middle aged it wouldn’t work, but he is peddling it as an ‘elder statesman’ which provides a baseline authority.

      To “feel the Bern” is to basically admit that you are not an adult.

    2. Better yet, ask any looter the definition of work or energy, or the dimensions of its units.

  19. While I agree with all of your criticisms, of him, and while I plan to vote for Gary Johnson, your article seems to imply that there is another major party choice I should be supporting instead.

    I disagree with Bernie Sanders on almost every point, and I still like him better than Clinton, Cruz, or Trump.

    1. It would be informative to know what points you agree with Sanders on as opposed to Trump, Cruz, or Hillary. At face value, Sanders is actually quite possibly the worst candidate in the field at the moment by virtually every measure. Admittedly, this is because Trump can’t be counted on to say the same thing about the same subject twice but I’m curious to hear why Cruz or Clinton would somehow be worse than a Stalin apologist.

    2. Trump-Honore 2016

      Stuck on stupid and loving every minute of it.

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  21. Most Sanders supporters I know do not care about what he says. There a few true believers, but for the most part, he is not Hillary Clinton and he has a D next to his name (at least this time). They are even that far left. They feel that that the Republicans are evil mostly because of social issues and Hillary Clinton is the personification of a corrupt politician. Trump is seen to them as the most extreme version of the Republicans and is absolutely despised by Sanders supporters (which I can very hilarious since their views on trade and immigration are very similar). He was the only other Democratic candidate who went after Clinton for anything in any meaningful way, so he was the default choice not named Hillary. If any other somewhat known Democrat was able to run against Clinton with as much gusto as Sanders, they would be winning hands down. His popularity says more about the hatred for Hillary than “feeling the Bern” for Sanders.

    1. He has a tiny core of support. Most of his primary voters aren’t voting for him, they’re voting vs. Clinton, because he was the only alternative, assuming protest votes for a non-competitive candidate are unnoticed. That’s why when Clinton gets indicted or flees the country, the Democrats won’t be nominating Sanders instead.

  22. Sanders and gridlock is far preferable to the authoritarian warmonger (clinton), the bible thumper big on defense (Cruz) and the insane former democrat (Trump).

    There are three primary issues: economics, foreign policy and civil liberties. Sanders gets at least two of these right and will be heavily blocked on the one he gets wrong. Can you say the same about the other three?

    Perhaps in a more perfect world somebody like a Gary Johnson would stand an actual chance. Unfortunately, they do not. I live in a state where my vote does not matter so I can vote or write in whomever I wish. But if it did matter I would definitely take Comrade Sanders over Clinton in the primary and Cruz/Trump in the general.

    1. If you think Sanders is a viable option you really are a moron….100 million dead agree.

    2. Cruz has an idea of what the constitution is, the others, not so much.

      1. Cruz has demonstrated a willingness to shut down government against the desires of his own party. A feat that Bernie, despite being an ideologically driven party outsider has yet to ‘brave’. Cruz is also willing to at least pretend to understand/favor libertarian economics even if it costs him (primary) votes.

        Gridlock is far from guaranteed with Bernie and there are some things that Bernie is going to royally fuck up that no amount of gridlock will prevent (SCOTUS, ACA…).

        It’s a bit of ‘Which chair on the Titanic?’ but Cruz is clearly a newer chair that may’ve been reupholstered to look nice while Bernie is, rather decidedly, an unwinding piece of old rattan wicker.

      2. Cruz recites the 14th Amendment: “All ova fertilized…”
        Mystical fanaticism, on the other hand, has been a huge success in Syria, Nigeria, Somalia, Italy, Venezuela, Cuba, Iraq and Iran, so it can’t be all bad.

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  24. RE: Liberals and Conservatives Should Reject Sanders
    His policies come from a fantasy world.

    Yes, Comrade Sanders’ policies come from a fantasy world, but it’s a nice fantasy world.
    If you’re an idiot.

    1. And where to communist (which Republicans call liberal) and mystical bigot (whom the socialists call conservative) policies come from?

  25. “The bipartisan Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget says they could add $15 trillion to the national debt over a decade.”

    If that’s correct, that isn’t really all that much worse than Obama after all. He’s got my vote!

    /sarc

  26. “If voting changed anything, they’d make it illegal.” -Emma Goldman.1869 ? 1940.

    Elections are “an advance auction of stolen goods.” H.L. Mencken

    Bottom line: It really makes no difference which clown gets elected, the deep state will carry on exactly as before.

    In other words:” New boss same as the old boss” as Pete Townsend once said.

    Or, “Dream On”?:

    “……In your dream, Donald Trump is not a fraud,
    In your dream, Sanders is not a fraud,
    In your dream, all the rest are not frauds,
    In your dream, Obama is not a fraud,
    In your dream, Reagan was not a fraud,
    In your dream, all the rest were not frauds,

    In your dream, the constitution was not a scam,
    In your dream, the Supreme court is not a scam,
    In your dream, 9/11 was not a scam”
    In your dreams, the war on terror is not a scam,
    In your dream, al -qaeda was not a scam,
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    1. Not true at all. A true populist president could get elected, change foreign policy, and start vetoing bills left and right. The laws getting passed would be a lot less objectionable if 70 percent of Congress had to agree on them. And if nothing got passed for 4 years, we’d all be far better off.

  27. Liberals and conservatives should be able to join hands and lift their voices in unison to say, “Bernie Sanders will not do.” .. Or Trump?

    – Bernie Sanders has been in Congress for 25 years with little to show for it in terms of his accomplishments ** Trump has no knowledge of Congress, foreign policy or economics.

    – Sanders proclaims, “Congress does not regulate Wall Street. Wall Street regulates Congress.” Trump : “..I’m not going to let Wall Street get away with murder. Wall Street has caused tremendous problems for us. We’re going to tax Wall Street.”

    – Sander portrays Climate Change as “the single greatest threat facing our planet.” Trump :”The concept of global warming was created by and for the Chinese in order to make U.S. manufacturing non-competitive.” Ehhh?

    – Sanders proposes more than doubling the minimum wage, to $15. Trump : “Wages in are country are too low, good jobs are too few, and people have lost faith in our leaders.”

    – Sanders has only contempt for any U.S. company that would move production to China or Mexico just “to make even more money.” Trump speaking about American business expats, he recently told supporters at a campaign rally in New Hampshire, “You can tell them to go f*** themselves.”

    Trump and Sanders are pretty much on the same wavelength.

    1. “Trump :”The concept of global warming was created by and for the Chinese in order to make U.S. manufacturing non-competitive.” ”

      yeh, Trump is at least partly wrong on this. It is largely the Russians. They have funneled huge sums of money into environmental advocacy groups in the US. The anti-fracking lobby is almost entirely Russian funded.
      China could be do, but they are obviously sneakier about it.

    2. “Wages in **are** country…” eh???

    3. That may well be. But the reality is that they are the only pols or pundits who are even bothering to speak to the concerns of prob close to 50% of voters combined. Everyone else in politics and the punditry class (including Reason apparently) is saying FU and your concerns. You don’t know shit. We know what’s best for you. And Trump and Sanders aren’t it. So bend over and take it like good sheep

      Until Reason, for one, takes these concerns seriously – and addresses them as if those who have them are self-aware – and offers something besides BS and prattle; then Reason is a bigger problem than either Trump or Sanders.

  28. Steve Chapman is a columnist and editorial writer for the Right-Wing Chicago Tribune. This paper has been the print version of FOX News, forever. Chapman writes what he’s told to write.

    1. Are you going to deny the premise of the article? That Sander’s policy ideas are mindless fantasy?

    2. Sanders’ financial schemes are like, totes legit ‘n stuff. I know because: free shit.

  29. ****But they should be able to join hands and lift their voices in unison to say, “Bernie Sanders will not do.”****

    Buh-buh-but Bernie says I get free shit and he’s gonna get the money from the bad guys!!!! Yippie!! And therein lies millions and millions of votes, constitution be damned.

  30. Anyone who has been exposed to Econ 101 – and it sunk in – should reject Bernie Sanders. In other words, approximately 18% of the population. And that’s how politicians – both R & D – like it. The Democrats literally thrive on economic ignorance. And Republican go along to get along with the 82%.

  31. “Liberals have other reasons to be leery. Sanders portrays climate change as “the single greatest threat facing our planet” even as he demands a ban on fracking.”

    Good lord. How long is it going to take Reason to realize that the left doesn’t give a damn about the environment? Climate hysteria is about redistributing wealth and it always has been. That’s why they will never give it up no matter how much we lower emissions and gather scientific data proving that it’s a hoax. They want to transfer our hard-earned wealth to their favorite communist despot to keep them in power and “prove” that communism does work.

    There are also the Al Gores who stand to make a bundle if carbon becomes a currency.

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  33. Hillary’s an anti-gun extremist. Who would you rather have appointing Supremes – Hillary or Bernie? Hillary would be more likely to strike an authoritarian deal with the Republicans – all the government police power the conservatives want for all the gun-control Hillary wants. Bernie would be more likely to strike a libertarianish deal – he’d nominate a pro-gun Supreme who would also respect other constitutional rights and limit police power.

    Bernie’s virtue is his ineffectiveness. I don’t want anyone in there who is effective. It when they actually do things is when they cause trouble. May we be blessed with incompetent and corrupt enemies. (Hey, maybe Hillary fits that bill.) Bernie wouldn’t have a chance of getting any of his economic agenda enacted. While he wastes time on that, he won’t be trying to take our guns, or get us into wars, or give out anti-laizzez faire capitalist bankster bailouts. Bernie voted against the bailouts, which is laizzez faire capitalist enough for me.

    1. The first good argument I’ve seen for Sanders: he’s not as evil as Clinton, and he’s too incompetent to enact the worst parts of his agenda.

  34. They think it is good that Bernie wants to get bread to hungry people? They don’t think they will be in those lines?

  35. “Sanders assumes that earnings grow on trees.”

    Apparently, so do many CEOs. Even a lunatic like Henry Ford understood that American workers also had to earn if Ford was going to earn.

    “Dodd-Frank…the most ambitious overhaul of financial regulation in generations.”

    “Most ambitious in generations” is a low hurdle to jump, but ok, let’s grant “ambitious”. Perhaps you’ve heard somewhere how it was whittled down by, well, guess who? That “Wall Street regulates Congress” is not exactly controversial. And they haven’t stopped pushing back, five years down the pike.

    “Sanders portrays climate change as “the single greatest threat facing our planet” even as he demands a ban on fracking.”

    The natural gas/fracking boom ain’t gonna last. If anything, it’s a distraction from the goal of producing affordable clean energy which, yes, if we don’t, is gonna fuck up the planet even more. But why listen to climate scientists when far-right political scientists have all the answers? What’s a few hundred more earthquakes? And God knows we have plenty of water to waste.

    As for the “fiesta of extravagance” and “confiscatory tax rates”, Sanders’ policies come from the “fantasy world” of Europe, and of America during its most prosperous period. What a nut! Do we want to live like the Scandinavians? No, let’s maintain our status as the Mississippi of the First World. Vote for the establishment candidate of your choice, and resist all change.

    1. When taxes are going up 2 trillion a year, you don’t need put the “confiscatory” in quotation marks.

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