Hillary Clinton

Hillary Clinton So Sick and Tired of Bernie Sanders Campaign Lies

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The "fundamentally honest and trustworthy" Hillary Clinton said on the campaign trail she was "so sick" of the "lies" told about her by the Sanders campaign. Clinton was responding to a Greenpeace activist who challenged her about accepting money from fossil fuel companies.

"I do not have that kind of money from people who work for fossil-fuel companies," she claimed, while Bernie Sanders came out later and pointed out Clinton had "lobbyists working for the oil, gas, and coal industry" raising money from her. The Clinton campaign insists it doesn't receive money from energy companies themselves or political action committees associated with them.

Clinton's complaint is rich not just because she is a serial liar and prevaricator, but because it is about a tactic she and her Democratic cohorts (and Donald Trump!) have used for decades—maligning an opposing side based on who might be supporting them with their money rather than actually engaging opposing political positions.

In 2012 Barack Obama openly worried about being "outspent" even though he had broken political spending records in 2008. The failure to launch of candidates like Jeb Bush with tens of millions of dollars backing their campaign has done little to dispel the myth that money spent on speech is some kind of boogeyman in politics. Democrats who insist they are "pro-science" have also ignored the science that suggests campaign donations have little effect on elections.

But Sanders, too, is a hypocrite about money in politics. He has claimed throughout the campaign that he "doesn't' have a Super PAC," yet even the anti-Super PAC New York Times has reported that Sanders, in fact, has had more outside money backing him than any other Democratic candidate, including powerful labor union super PACs.

"Money in politics" is a smokescreen for suppressing speech and a distraction from the how the powers government has granted itself to regulate so much human activity has itself encouraged and sustained cronyism in government. In other words, the rhetoric is a potent tool in protecting cronyism. It allows those in power to limit the ability of their opponents to criticize them while blaming those opponents for corrupting the political system instead of the corrupting influence of centralizing that much power in the first place.

Clinton's increasing frustration with the Sanders campaign may reflect the troubles ahead in April. Sanders is leading in Wisconsin (voting April 5) and has pulled to within 12 points in New York (voting April 19) where Clinton, the former New York senator, previously led by double digits. Sanders was born in Brooklyn and started the New York leg of his campaign in the south Bronx last night. This is the first time on either the Democratic or Republican side since primaries started being a significant thing in the 70s. On the Republican side, Donald Trump, a life-long New Yorker, has a chance to extend his lead in the delegate count.

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  1. “as pulled to within 12 points in New York (voting April 19) where Clinton, the former New York senator, previously led by double digits.”

    And still leads by double digits, since she’s up 12

    1. Irish you quick bastard, wait your turn next time ;P

      1. Krayewski’s got five digits waiting for you two nit pickers in the form of a knuckle sandwich.

        1. Is Kray-Kray going to have to choke a bitch?

    2. Krayewski was merely converting the number to our 10-based number system. 12 is a single-digit number under his system of math.

      1. You mean duodenal-decimal, where all numbers are pulled out of one ass or another?

        1. Dammit, Shirl, you actually said something not obnoxious. Actually funny. [cuffs nearest orphan in fit of pique]

      2. Someone alert Inego Montoya!

        1. You rang?

          It was the Six-Fingered Man whom I sought to dispatch to avenge the death of my father.
          I believe Krayewski is five-fingered on each hand. So he remains safe from my wrath. For now.

          1. I’m just saying, a man with six fingers would count in base 12…

            Which still doesn’t work, as 12 would be represented by 10, which is still double digits. More coffee needed.

            1. If you just would have gone to hexadecimal in the first place…

      3. If you use base 20, you need to stop appropriating Maya culture.

        1. Diane is appropriating nerd culture.

      4. 1=1
        2=2

        9=9
        10=A
        11=B
        12=C

        Kind of like a truncated hexadecimal (base sixteen, commonly used in computing).

    3. I should at least skim the comments before posting next time.

  2. ” and has pulled to within 12 points in New York (voting April 19) where Clinton, the former New York senator, previously led by double digits.”

    Not to pick nits, but 12 points is still a double digit lead.

  3. Sanders is leading in Wisconsin (voting April 5) and has pulled to within 12 points in New York (voting April 19) where Clinton, the former New York senator, previously led by double digits.

    I am pretty sure 12 points is still a double digit lead. Just because you are the alt text champ does not mean you can make these mistakes.

  4. within 12 points in New York (voting April 19) where Clinton, the former New York senator, previously led by double digits

    The masturbation euphemisms….

    Am doing this right?

    1. I thought leading with double digits was a shocker euphamism.

      1. *fans self*

        Lawks, how you folk do talk.

        1. *adds Southern Belle accent to fap rolodex*

          1. “fap rolodex”

            Good band name.

  5. Clinton was responding to a Greenpeace activist who challenged her about accepting money from fossil fuel companies.

    The activist who charges his iPhone via solar and lubricates his bike chain with olive oil.

    1. lubricate your chain with olive oil…..do we have a euphemism ? Oh, I think we do.

  6. This sounds… familiar.

  7. in fact, has had more outside money backing him than any other Democratic candidate, including powerful labor union super PACs.

    As someone who lives in a blue-er-than-blue-found-in-nature-blue city, Union Money doesn’t count as dirty. You actually point to Union money as a badge of honor. The more Union Money you have backing you, the louder you crow, and the higher you fly that flag.

    1. And all those lefties who don’t belong to a union and are therefore the exact people being fucked over by the unions, are crowing just as loudly because they too, hope to join a union and fuck over the next lower person on the ladder.

      1. Provincial attacks on out-of-towners aside, the Stranger’s hero McGinn himself has made a legitimate campaign issue out of the Whole Foods proposal, opposing an alley vacation for the development because Whole Foods isn’t unionized and, he says, doesn’t pay “livable” wages. (Whole Foods says its wages will start at $11 an hour; the Stranger dismisses that claim because the private company hasn’t released its wage data.)

        Here is a politician directly proposing policy based on the demands of his financial backers. No one calls this ‘corruption’. It’s Mike “enjoy your only term, sir” McGinn fighting for the workin’ man!

        1. According to payscale.com, cashiers nationally for Whole Foods make $10.00-$13.39 with many of their other positions paying substantially more.

          Whole Foods claim that their wages at this particular store will be $11.00, which is right in line with their national wages scaled to Seattle’s higher cost of living. The Stranger decided to dismiss a claim being made by Whole Foods because their ‘reporters’ are too fucking lazy to look up readily available wage data.

          1. The Stranger is Seattle’s so-called alt-weekly (editor Dan Savage (heard of him?)) that is incredibly pro-government.

            Sad when the alt-weekly strokes the cock of power.

            1. “Sad when the alt-weekly strokes the cock of power.”

              It’s my understanding that all alt-weeklies stroke the cock of power. The only time the Chicago Reader criticizes the state is when the state isn’t stating hard enough.

            2. Well, it *is* Dan Savage, after all.

  8. since primaries started being a significant thing in the 70s

    What on earth did they do before then and can we please return to doing that?

    1. Nope. Smoking is strictly prohibited indoors everywhere.

      1. That’s only for the help. Those smoke-filled back rooms probably still exist.

        1. There is a perceived class difference between filthy cigarettes and sophisticated cigars and pipes which are more the choice for a smoke filled room.

          1. And any group which could hotbox an entire room on some dank green would be vaping anyway.

  9. she was “so sick” of the “lies” told about her by the Sanders campaign

    If she thinks that’s bad, time to bust out the popcorn for the final faceoff with Trump.

    1. I really don’t think even Trump could make up anything about Hillary that’s worse than the truth.

  10. I do not have that kind of money from people who work for fossil-fuel companies

    … the other kind of money on the other hand…

    And that, folks, is how Hillary is the most fundamentally honest politician.

    1. I think what she meant by that is she gets her campaign donations in an untraceable crypto-currency her IT guy set up. She calls them Cuntcoins.

  11. Well, I have to agree.
    Hillary is definitely sick. And not in the ‘cool’ sense of the term.
    She’s also tired. As in ‘tired old baggage’.
    #neverhillary

  12. …has pulled to within 12 points in New York (voting April 19) where Clinton, the former New York senator, previously led by double digits.

    12 points is still a double digit lead.

    This is the first time on either the Democratic or Republican side since primaries started being a significant thing in the 70s.

    Normally I try not to be a grammar Nazi – especially since my grammar is far from perfect – but this sentence is pure word salad.

    1. “12 points is still a double digit lead.”

      God, you must be so embarrassed right now

      1. *hangs head in shame, slowly shuffles away to cry in a dark corner*

  13. Well God knows she is such a stickler for the truth.

  14. WTF is a promoted comment? Is that an April Fools joke?

    1. I’m hoping that it is.

    2. Hover over the question mark… and despair.

      1. hmmm, not definitive. Oh well, just added that solid opinion thing as a blocked element for ad block.

        1. Ahhh it didn’t work. Surely there is way to prevent that thing from loading.

          1. It’s like glanders. You’re screwed.

    3. Downvoted

    4. *uptwinkles*

    5. Check out the management team of SolidOpinion, the company behind the promoted comments. They are Russians. And I shouldn’t even be surprised that they are.

      Several years ago a new seemingly high-quality magazine in Russian offered trial paper+online subscriptions; I found the publication interesting and wanted to leave a comment there in an existing thread on the subject that I happened to have a great familiarity with. Turns out, the only option to post a comment required paying at least $200 extra on top of the paid subscription. Sorry, you should have paid me for my comments. Naturally, I didn’t continue subscribing to the magazine. I wonder if the SolidOpinion people have any connection to snob.ru.

      1. Disappointing. I was sure and idea like this had come from a group of Millennials straight out of the show Silicon Valley.

  15. “He who permits himself to tell a lie once, finds it much easier to do it a second and third time, till at length it becomes habitual; he tells lies without attending to it, and truths without the world’s believing him. This falsehood of tongue leads to that of the heart, and in time depraves all its good dispositions.”

    -Thomas Jefferson

  16. I’m just going to throw this out there in case anyone missed it, but 12 points is a double digit lead.

    1. Maybe I’ll believe it coming from a promoted comment, but just on your word? No way.

      1. And we can promote comments by spending money! It’s the perfect libertarian commenting system!

        1. Well, we know what happens in the commons.

          1. *gazes at scattered trash, shit and used needles*

            Oh, wait, I thought you said public restroom in Berlin, circa 1997.

    2. You’re right ! How did I miss that ?!

  17. You know, I’ve been thinking a bit lately. If private actors, businessmen, lied to the public like politicians do every campaign cycle, there would be calls for regulation and prosecutions for fraud. They would be breaking multiple laws. But for some reason, none of that applies to politicians where people are very eager to dismiss complaints as naivety. All politicians lie so a politician being a liar isn’t reason not to support them.

    I think we need common sense political fraud laws and regulations. Mainly because I want to see our lawmakers thrown into the rape cages that they are so fond of putting the rest of us. But I guess it’s naive to think even if we had or enforced laws against fraud for politicians that they would be enforced.

    1. Ponder this on the tree of Whoa !

      The Union Leader here in New Hampshire said recently that it is up to citizens to hold local officials accountable for violating the open meetings laws. My first reaction was, if someone breaks a law, isn’t that what police, prosecutors and courts are for ? Is the private citizen supposed to bring an indictment? Turn out, yeah, that is how it works. If your town council breaks this law, YOU have to bring suit. It couldn’t be more of a fuck you to the citizenry, and yet…there it is. Meanwhile our Attorney General is going after a small school district for sending some kids to a Mentessori school.

  18. It’s weird how no one has mentioned that 12 points is still a double-digit lead.

    1. I totally missed that.

  19. Hello again, HnR. I missed you.

    1. Derpy!!!!!

      What news from the army? Did your drill instructors enjoy the gay porn magazine subscriptions we took out for you?

      1. The last thing one of my drill sgts said to me was “Derpy, you’re funny as shit.” The other one said that if I had been in the Army 40 years ago, I would have gotten beaten up. My platoon had 2 female drill sgts, so maybe they’ll like the gay porn. They were the same ones mentioned above.

    2. Does this herald the return of Spot the Not ?!

      1. Yes. Though it won’t be in the AM or PM links.

    3. Fuckin’ A! Good to have you back, man!

    4. Are you really good at doing push-ups after waking early in the morning to run in the mud?

      1. I’ve seen more sunrises in 4 months in the Army than the rest of my life put together.

        Hooah?

    5. Get kicked out for arguing the value of pacifism?

      1. No, but I got in trouble for stating correct information about Islam. It was very serious. There was even talk of filing a formal complaint with the Dept of Hurt Feelings.

        1. Ah, yes. The ever-present IMT-WF-11. A modern military staple.

    6. Hope you’re doing well. Have they beat the libertarian out of you yet?

      1. Nope, but they sure tried.

    7. Welcome to being a libertarian in the military. It’s awful.

      1. When I got to Monterey, we were forced to go through this ritual where we had to set up our rooms just so according to a manual. The manual was what I imagine Martha Stewart would write if she went on an acid trip. Underwear and t-shirts rolled just so, socks rolled individually not as pairs, etc. On the day of the big inspection, I nearly screwed the pooch by greeting the commander and telling a joke, but I redeemed myself by singing a spirited rendition of The Star Spangled Banner.

        1. Ah yes, I remember those rolled socks and towels folded just so.

          Good luck with any sort of biting wit. They get pissed off because they know you’re intelligent enough to get the job done but are pissed that you’re also usually right.

        2. Ah yes, I remember those rolled socks and towels folded just so.

          Good luck with any sort of biting wit. They get pissed off because they know you’re intelligent enough to get the job done but are pissed that you’re also usually right.

    8. Just to recap: graduated from basic at the end of February and have been at Monterey since. I like it here and have been enjoying my language classes. I’m not so supposed to say what language I’m studying, but I will say I am very happy with it.

      1. I’m not so supposed to say what language I’m studying, but I will say I am very happy with it.

        Is that a masturbation euphemism?

        /new meme at H&R

      2. [i]I’m not so supposed to say what language I’m studying,[/i]

        They make a big deal about that, but it’s not that serious. It’s going to get posted all over Facebook and it’ll be on your resume when you get out.

        .2007-2009 ???? ???? ???? ???

        1. Yeah, I began to doubt how serious they were about that when I noticed the PX sold sweatshirts with the DLI logo and different languages written on them.

          Also, I understood what you wrote in the squiggly letters. I’ve learned a lot already. This pleases me.

          Well, I guess that cat’s outta the bag now.

    9. Are you General of the Army yet?!

      Good to see you, Derpy.

      1. No, but I am making great progress towards my goal of being the least decorated soldier in American history.

        http://platedlizard.blogspot.c…..ation.html

        About the marksmanship badge- no one in our 200+ training class shot expert. My M16 jammed every 10 – 15 rounds, which is why it took me 5 tries to qualify. I got it to stop jamming by oiling the bolt like a porn star’s asshole.

        I put a note with some advice in the butt compartment as an Easter Egg for the next guy.

        They told us SPORTS, but what they should have said is if it jams with the bolt open, slap up on the bottom of the mag. If the bolt moves forward, push the forward assist and fire. If not, lock the bolt to the rear, unload, shake out the loose rounds, then reload. If it jams with the bolt closed, recharge and try to fire.

        1. Derpy as a graduate of AIT you have entire row of ribbons (NDSM, GWOTM, ASR). Hell you are on your way to have more ribbons than George MFing Patton. I spent three years in your area while I was serving. If you want some tips for some some fun places off the beaten path in the Monterey area let me know at my email.

  20. so where my points at dawgs?

  21. After Clinton said she has “tried in every way I know how” to level with people, Pelley asked, “Have you always told the truth?”

    She said, “I’ve always tried to, always. Always.”

    Pelley pushed back, “Some people are gonna call that wiggle room that you just gave yourself.”

    Clinton, slightly incredulously, responded, “I don’t believe I ever have! I don’t believe I ever have, I don’t believe I ever will.”

    http://www.mediaite.com/tv/cbs…..the-truth/

    1. I’m convinced!

    2. Spoken like a true child of the 60s who “knows” there’s no such thing as objective truth. “Best of my ability” is the highest pinnacle of truth.

  22. I was going to comment on how 12 points is still a double digit lead. But since that’s beat into the ground, how about we discuss Donald Trump?

  23. How many different ways can we say Hillary is ‘some piece of work’?

  24. Not promoting comments. I can go to reddit of I want to see what idiots like the most.

  25. Just to be clear, 9% is still a double-digit lead.

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