Campus Free Speech

Watch a Black Student Assault White Teen Because His Dreadlocks Are Cultural Appropriation

So much for safe spaces at San Francisco State University.

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Bonita
Screenshot via Nicholas Silvera

A San Francisco State University student of color harassed and assaulted a white student earlier this week, accusing him of stealing her culture—because he had dreadlocks. 

The encounter took place in the Cesar Chavez Student Center, and was captured on video. The video clearly shows a black female student, identified as Bonita Tindle, confronting a dreadlocks-wearing white male named Cory Goldstein. Tindle is accompanied by a black male: both insist to Goldstein that his dreadlocks are tantamount to cultural appropriation. 

Goldstein responds by insisting that his look is Egyptian, and doesn't belong to them. They counter by demanding to know whether he is Egyptian. 

"You're saying I can't have a hairstyle because of your culture?" asks Goldstein. "Why?" 

"Because it's my culture," asserts Tindle. 

Goldstein eventually says, "You know what, girl, you have no right to tell me what I can and cannot wear." He then attempts to leave the area. Tindle grabs his arm and physically restrains him. After being pushed around for a few moments, Goldstein separates himself from Tindle and walks off. The self-proclaimed cultural enforcer then notices that she is being recorded by a third-party, and demands to know why. 

"For everyone's safety," says the person shooting the video. 

Tindle then appears to attack the cameraman just before the clip ends. 

When I first watched this video, I was suspicious that it was staged: It just seems too ridiculous. But Goldstein posted about it on Facebook and said it really happened. "I just got physically assaulted because I have dreadlocks woe," he wrote. 

What's more, the campus police responded to the incident, according to a press release:

University police were called to the scene of the incident when it occurred. The two individuals involved in the incident are not San Francisco State University employees. Further, no criminal charges have been pressed at this time to the University's knowledge.  

San Francisco State University promotes the rights of the campus community to engage in free speech, but does not condone behavior that impedes the safety or well-being of others.  We are taking the matter seriously and will promptly and thoroughly investigate this incident through applicable University channels, including our campus student conduct procedures. 

I don't know whether Goldstein or someone else called the police, who did not immediately respond to a request for comment. If he doesn't want to press charges, that's his choice. But Tindle's thuggish behavior was completely inappropriate, and she deserves plenty of derision—partly for her awful views on cultural appropriation, but mostly because she used violence to back up her opinion. 

Given how obsessed universities are with creating safe spaces for students, I'm surprised SFSU isn't taking more decisive action. What good is a safe space, after all, if it does not guarantee actual physical safety? 

In any case, shame on Tindle for going full Melissa Click on someone she disagreed with. To borrow a phrase from student-activists, perhaps she needs some mandatory cultural sensitivity training.

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  1. What’s that bitch doing speaking English.

    Also, isn’t straightening normally curly hair cultural appropriation?

    1. Yes and it’s been talked about… a lot. Some black folks look down on the hair-straightening trend.

      1. You think they look down on it because it’s cultural appropriation? Not so much. Cultural abandonment is more like it.

        1. Oh yes, absolutely. Sometimes also discussed as ‘appropriating the slave culture’ which is… the worst thing you can do. I think.

    2. It’s cultural imperialism against her, not cultural appropriation by her. The argument is a variation on “people of color cannot be racist,” which in turn is a variation on “I can do no wrong, and you can do no right.”

    3. Acting like a cunt is a cultural appropriation!

    4. BONITA better be a Latina

      1. Even then, it’s fraud.

      2. Especially since it happened in the Cesar Chavez Student Center.

    5. I’m surprised SFSU isn’t taking more decisive action.

      Are you? Are you really? Because the university taking more decisive action would be the surprise to me.

      1. Fucking blockquote tags!

        1. Read this as “blockquote fags” which would be … something, I guess.

          1. Like faggot cookies?

      2. I’m surprised SFSU isn’t taking more decisive action.

        Really. This is a white kid who’s been accused by a not white kid of liberal heresy at a university in San Francisco. I’m not surprised at all that the admin would ignore it.

        A black student cries (wolf) racism and universities protest for weeks. A white student gets attacked for so-called cultural appropriation and nothing happens. This seems perfectly in line with what I expect.

        1. I’m surprised they haven’t punished him (the white kid) yet.

          1. They are puniching him. They are allowing him to continue to make an ass of himself by wearing dreadlocks. As a book i readonce on a checkout line put it “Very few people in this world look good in dreadlocks. None of them are white.”

            1. Meh. He seems like a decent enough guy, and he handled himself very well in that situation and afterwards. I’ll give him a pass on the dreadlocks.

        2. I’m actually surprised they haven’t expelled the white guy. He appropriated her culture, that’s got to be at least as bad as rape. He’s clearly a rapist. /sarc

          1. I’m pretty sure that is being considered as we blog.

          2. I should enroll in college for a new degree, get dreadlocks, or at least fake deadlock hair extensions. Then parade around campus with a painfully phony Jamaican accent. until some dumbfuck SJW tries to assault me. Then sue everyone involved, including the university, for a big payday.

            1. If I didn’t have a career and responsibilities and a life, I’ve often thought about re-enrolling in some undergrad program at one of these schools just to be the bane of their existence for a few years and draw attention to all their idiocy. A lawsuit at the end would definitely be a bonus.

              The biggest issue is that so many of these kids actually need to come out of school with their degree, so they feel like they can’t rock the boat and jeopardize their graduation. But someone who went in with a total IDGAF attitude could really make things tricky for the SJW bullies who run the show.

        3. Noticed this happened on a campus where concealed carry (or open) is banned.

          Try that on a campus that’s armed.

    6. Does Ebonics qualify as English?

    7. Yeah – and those clothes she is wearing are cultural appropriation too. She should have some sort of animal skin cover-up on and be barefoot. Depending on the weather, topless might also be more culturally appropriate.

      1. I mean, technically the Vikings had dreadlocks too. He should have speared her with a trident or something.

  2. He’s actually named Cory. I’ve made jokes about Trevorfarians but I had no idea I was so close to the mark.

    1. Do they respond to fuckgoofs?

      1. More often to “fuck giraffes”

  3. I don’t even get the mindset behind “cultural appropriation”.

    1. You’re too privileged to understand

    2. Let me see if I can sum it up.

      I want something to bitch about.

      How’s that?

      1. It’s becoming clearer.

      2. And it’s all YOUR FAULT!

      3. Like everything progtarded, it’s a way to manufacture phony victimhood, and then fashion it into a weapon. So they can attack whites. They hate white people.

    3. It’s the most advanced form of whinerism. It’s asserting intellectual property rights over an entire culture, and assigning those rights to people with the “right” genes. Glad this happened. Perhaps incidents like this will make everyone realize how fucked up the SJWs are.

      1. Perhaps incidents like this will make everyone realize how fucked up the SJWs are.

        It’s advancing the debate and forcing us to confront uncomfortable truths. Sure, it may be a little over the top, but at least we’re finally having a discussion about problematic behavior.

        1. at least we’re finally having a discussion about problematic behavior.

          White-person dreads *are* problematic, but not in the sense the young Committee For Social-Virtue and Prevention of Wrongthink-members probably intend.

          1. White-person dreads *are* problematic

            I was the first to say it, now you’re just riding on my coattails.

          2. That punk white kid should be left alone with the exception of some jocks passing by, and making him upside the head and laughing at him.

        2. Just not what the SJW would like.

      2. “It’s asserting intellectual property rights over an entire culture, and assigning those rights to people with the ‘right’ genes.”

        At the same time, the assignment of those IP rights is distributed among groups who are not related to the culture, and no IP rights are, of course, assigned to white cultures. That way, under this system, Korean-Americans can and do police Japanese kimonos and bitch at white people who wear it and African Americans with no North African background can complain about white people wearing hairstyles invented by the Egyptians (and a ton of other people, independently, but the Egyptians got there first).

        1. That’s the other thing. They got there first, but people did the same thing independent of the Egyptians. Same with the pyramids. People all over the world built structures into the sky. Or henna/tattooing. Or alcohol. Far before international trade was even a small operation.

        2. Who is doing the policing has nothing to do with who holds the cultural rights under this scheme, however. That Korean-Americans police non-Japanese people wearing kimonos does not mean Korean-Americans think they themselves are allowed to wear kimonos.

          1. In Asia they have their own version of these silly arguments. Asian cultures involve many of the same things but give them different names. Then they argue over who invented it. Like replacing the “J” in J-pop with a “K”. Bam! now it’s your culture you’re exporting, as opposed to actually importing Japanese culture.

            The Korean version of a Kimono is called a Hanbok or something like that.

        3. If it is first past the post, who gets to claim fire and walking upright? I’m guessing walking upright goes to Africans because they have Lucy to prove that we started there. But fire?

          1. Did Lucy play basketball?

            1. Football field goal place holder, silly.

      3. Who knew Kurosawa was such a cultural chauvinist?

    4. Originally the complaint about cultural appropriation was tied to things like the first significant jazz figure to get national recognition was Benny Goodman, Elvis got rich and famous ripping off black singers who stayed obscure, the Small Faces taking credit for Willie Dixon’s “You Need Lovin'” before Zeppelin turned it into “Whole Lotta Love” and the like.

      Irony being that like this white kid with the dreads, they were trying to *celebrate* black American culture, but wound up getting credit for *creating* it.

      What’s going on in this video is an unwitting parody by someone who doesn’t actually understand the issue but wants something to get mad about.

      1. So, the black musicians appropriated European culture by using guitars?

        1. No, the Europeans appropriated the guitar from Arabs, who appropriated it from the Indian sitar, who in turn maybe got it from the Greeks (the cithern).

          In short, I’m not sure who gets to use guitars, or whether they even have a right to exist.

          1. I certainly have no idea what to do with John McLaughlan.

            1. You could start by spelling his name correctly, Jon McLaughlin. Funny thing, that’s my name too. I never have to worry about Google searches because I’m on page 3 million. 🙂

              1. You appropriated ‘That’s my name too’ from John Jacob Jingleheimer Schmidt. Give it back or I’m calling the police.

              2. Congrats, you’re both wrong! “JOHN McLaughlin’

          2. Whoa dude…it’s like real life “2112”.

          3. Greeks aren’t white?

            The Greeks I know are white.

      2. Have you ever heard some of the original songs that Led Zeppelin ripped off? They were horrible. Zeppelin made the song good. Think Hendrix changing Dylan’s All Along the Watchtower times five.

        1. True to the dat.
          I’ve listened to so many songs that were supposedly the source of Zep’s hits and I can barely recognize them as the same song and sure as hell wouldn’t listen to them twice.

      3. Most people don’t give a fuck about credit or where something comes from. Elvis and Goodman were celebrated because they were great musicians.

        Furthermore, they didn’t just copy or reproduce, their music and their style added a lot. That’s how progress happens.

    5. The Pittsburgh Pirates’ new firstbaseman, John Jaso
      http://www.bradenton.com/lates…..es_001.jpg

    6. It’s basically the same mentality as “I can’t listen to my favorite band any more because kids I don’t like have started listening to them”. In other words, typical of kids going through puberty. College seems to be the new junior high now.

      My suspicion, which I suspect Lenore Skenazy would agree with, is that today’s college kids have had their interpersonal interactions parentally micromanaged (playdates, mommy-picked friends, all time structured) for so long that social/emotional development is about that of early tweens from previous generations. The first thing kids do when they’re just learning how to interact with others in a non-structured fashion is to divide themselves up into rival cliques. That phase usually passes within a few years, and most of us cringe when we think about what we were like then. What’s changed is that this phase has now become part of early adulthood.

      1. Some will point to “race records” and blackface as legitimate examples of “cultural appropriation” harm, but those were bad for different reasons. The race-record problem wasn’t that white singers were singing songs by black songwriters; it was that the black songwriters weren’t getting paid more than an, er, song for their work while everybody else was making out like bandits. But, of course, to make that argument you have to believe in property rights; if you don’t, your explanation of the problem will be nonsensical. Similarly, the problem with blackface was that it was a mechanism for entertainment producers to portray black characters without having to, y’know, pay black performers.

        1. Because in some places it was illegal to hire black actors.

    7. it makes so much sense though! he shouldnt wear dreadlocks cuz that’s a black thing to do. that’s like totally the opposite of being racist

    8. Since actual racism has nearly been eradicated, the grievance industry had to come up with new and innovative ways for people to be racist.

  4. Why are you filming this?

    Why not? You have an opinion, share it.

    1. “To record evidence of a crime.”

  5. the campus police responded to the incident

    The regular police? The dream police, grammar police, church police, cultural appropriation police? Ya gotta be more specific!

    1. The Dream Police are only allowed to police inside your head and in your bed. Clearly, they aren’t the ones being written about in the article.

      1. The Dream Police sang “Don’t Stand So Close to a Northern Town.”

        1. The B-side was “Life In Me”?

      2. They got too much power, if you ask me. They’re the judge and jury, all in one.

    2. Karma Police, arrest this man.

    3. jazz police?

  6. Wonder if she’ll be charged with battery?

    /sits back and pops some popcorn

    1. I don’t know, but she definitely shouldn’t apologize for this incident.

      1. What was that white-dred kid holding in his hand? Was it a pen? WAS IT

        1. A BOMB?!?!

          *dives for cover*

      2. Charges or it didn’t happen!

      3. (swims to safe space)

      4. And she shouldn’t buy him a drink.

    2. She grabbed him, then complained that he touched her

    3. If she is charged with battery that is clearly racist injustice since battery is English or French or Latin origin.

  7. I”m thoroughly enjoying this. Watch ’em eat themselves. Fuck ’em all.

    1. It’s okay for him to dread, but it’s totally, like wrong, for him to appropriate Native American culture by wearing a [feather] Indian headdress.

      1. “my rules, my body”

        Now he’s gender appropriating too!

        1. Next he is going to want his own restroom.

      2. The issue with headdresses is that in most cultures that use them, they’re symbols of earned honor; a member of one of those cultures who wore one as a fashion accessory without earning it would be viewed much like we’d view someone who never served in the military using combat decorations as fashion accessories; it dilutes the symbolic value of the symbol, and when it’s done by someone outside the culture where it’s symbolic, it suggests contempt or indifference toward that culture.

        It’s not an act of violence; the language of “trauma” and “safety” has no place here. It’s not something that should be considered a crime (unless it’s being done to misrepresent oneself for personal financial gain), but it is extremely tacky and rude and people for whom those symbols are meaningful have a perfect right to strongly object to it.

        1. it dilutes the symbolic value of the symbol, and when it’s done by someone outside the culture where it’s symbolic, it suggests contempt or indifference toward that culture.

          He wasn’t wearing dreadlocks to show contempt for her culture, he was wearing them because they are symbolic to him and his culture.

          As for showing “contempt” or “indifference” to other cultures, what is wrong with that? You seem to be starting from the assumption that all cultures are equivalent, but most cultures suck: they result in stagnant, oppressive, violent societies. That’s true for Europe, Asia, African and the Americas.

          Finally, the “culture” that little Bonita imagines she comes from is a figment of her imagination. Her skin color and fantasies don’t make her “African”. And the “culture” that she fantasizes about never existed in Africa; it’s an artificial construct of the last few decades. African cultures were strongly patriarchal. If she had behaved towards a man like she did in what she believes to be “her culture”, she would have been beaten and locked up. That kind of thing is, incidentally, why people can and should show contempt towards that culture.

          Of course, dreadlocks were never much of a cultural symbol among the tens of thousands of distinct cultures of Africa; they were primarily associated with the Near East and India, and arguably Northern Europeans.

          1. Actually, by the looks of him, he looked in the mirror one day and said to himself “I know I’m a little squid douchebag, but the effect is somehow incomplete. How can I be a complete and utter douchebag?” Then he likely said to himself “I know! Shitty dreadlocks! And it will probably piss of my folks too!” And by the video, you know the rest.

        2. Well then maybe the people from the “cultures that use them” should stop making and selling replicas their “symbols of earned honor” to all and sundry.

          Or maybe they’re self aware enough to know that these are just like toy military gear or replica military gear and the SJW assholes who’ve decided that they know better than the oppressed masses and will bully people for them should shut the fuck up.

          And maybe those of us with brains should try to do our damnedest to not internalize their bullshit and give it legitimacy by suggesting that it has any value whatsoever.

    2. Definitely. At first I thought, maybe he was actually being harassed, then I saw his side of the story video and the kid just oozes SJW. So, yeah, enjoyable to watch. Eat you filthy little cannibals, eat your fill.

  8. What’s with the overly-affected semi-dance moves white boy is making while making his defense?

    1. ugh. I should have watched the video faster.

      1. Meh, I shouldn’t make fun of him. He’s done nothing wrong here, at all. It was just incredibly distracting.

        1. Meh, I shouldn’t make fun of him

          SMDH

          sir, follow me this way to the re-education center. yes, the one with the people with the socks with the soap in them. just lie down here and wait a moment.

    2. I can’t watch it now but from the screenshot and the description I can only guess I would find this individual annoying as hell but… I will defend to the death &c &c.

      1. you will defend to the death his char pointer address?

        1. Twice even?

        2. I try to class this place up with a little 19th century affectation and you pull out a mid-20th century computer language reference. Sheesh.

          1. yup

        3. Not necessarily a char pointer. It’s simply the address of a variable named c

      2. Instead of engaging her in debate, he should have said “Fuck off you stupid bitch!” Gets the point across better, and doesn’t actually engage the turdish cunt.

    3. Eh. Some sort of social anxiety? I guess he’s not the best speaker, but he was harassed out of nowhere. I’m sure we all have some tick when that happens.

      1. he was harassed out of nowhere. I’m sure we all have some tick when that happens.

        Yes, mine is to punch the person harassing me in the face as hard as I can.

        1. Fair. I can’t bring myself to make fun of how he expressed himself. He moves his hands around. I shrug and make faces a lot.
          I would have a hard time not yelling at them both.

      2. Jesus, people. He’s going to move his hands around and gesticulate a lot. His last name is Goldstein. All the Jews do that.

        1. Whew! For a second there I thought we were going to have to file a second set of cultural appropriation charges …

          1. Y’know the Rastas “culturally appropriated” the dreads from the Nazirites , who were Hebrews.

            Goldstein does remind me of Ras Trent .

            Kevin R

          2. Yeah, but they stole the who gesticulating thing from the Palestinians.

        2. Sheldon?

        3. His ancestors were probably from much closer to Egypt than hers.

    4. What’s with the overly-affected semi-dance moves white boy is making while making his defense?

      Based on his outfit, I assume he was about to launch into an Oompa Loompa song about the dangers of racial stereotyping hairstyles.

    5. What’s with the overly-affected semi-dance moves white boy is making while making his defense?

      Based on his outfit, I assume he was about to launch into an Oompa Loompa song about the dangers of racial stereotyping hairstyles.

      1. Don’t touch that squirrel’s nuts! You’ll make him crazy!

    6. That’s his expression of his Wigger culture.

      -jcr

    7. What’s with the overly-affected semi-dance moves white boy is making while making his defense?

      Capoeira? That would make him a cultural appropriation double threat.

    8. he’s exactly the stereotypical dirty douchebag he looks like?

  9. I like the way that guy did a little dance while he was talking.

  10. Are you telling me whitey didn’t get expelled for that shit? What kind of world are we living in?

    1. A world of structural racism and white privilege. Duh.

      1. Are you trying to say that it’s intrinsically paternalistic?

    2. He would have gotten expelled for delivering the cunt punch she so richly deserved.

  11. Robby, you may want to remove the quote block from the second paragraph of that quote, unless the university actually said that, which would be amazing.

  12. They counter by demanding to know whether he is Egyptian.

    I assume he’s Jewish, so he must have some Egyptian ancestry, am I right?

    1. That would have been a brilliant retort.

    2. LET DUDES PEOPLE GO, MAN

    3. Yeah, I would have brought that up.

      1. Nope, only one response warranted: “Go fuck yourself”

    4. Not to pick at nits but dreads didn’t originate in Egypt. They originated in India and therefore the look was “appropriated” long before Bonita accused Cory of appropriating her culture. Unless Bonita is Indian in which case I’ve made a terrible mistake based on assumptions about external factors.

      1. Culture isn’t something you get from your genes. No, Bonita doesn’t come from Indian culture, or African culture for that matter. Among other things, both those cultures are highly patriarchal, so for her to address a man like she did would be completely culturally inappropriate “in her culture”.

  13. But Tindle’s thuggish behavior…

    Is this from the campus police press release?

    1. Per Cro’s comment above, no. It’s from Robby’s press release.

      1. Well then while he’s adjusting his blockquote tags, maybe Robby can find a better word to use than ‘thuggish’.

        1. It’s a perfect use of the word.

          1. It certainly is, and that’s the problem.

          2. The actual perfect use of the word.

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tzSjtuMGOQ

        2. Nothing thuggish about assault.

        3. If we were to make a list of actual trigger words, ‘Thuggish’ might be top 5 with regards to the parlance of the times. The N words still reigns but I’d say that ‘thug’ is usually layered in contempt and it’s usage most be more commonplace with each passing day.

          1. It’s time to take it back then.

          2. It’s doubly wrong because it was appropriated from Indian culture.

        4. “”Well then while he’s adjusting his blockquote tags, maybe Robby can find a better word to use than ‘thuggish’.””

          Are you trying to play the ‘the word thug is just code for the n-word!’ game because that’s an awfully strange argument to make in a place where white cops are constantly getting referred to as thugs.

          1. the wonderful thing about the magical power of “THE N WORD” is that whenever you want to try and avoid an argument and just discredit people via nitpicking? You can just claim that some *new* word is just being used as a replacement for said magical-N-word, and therefore they’re obviously being racist and should be denounced before anyone ever listens to the rest of their argument.

            Basically, never say “Thug” anymore, because idiots will pull a Rain-Man and start demanding people pay attention to them

          2. I’m playing the game where the word thug is used to describe black people who are acting pretty innocuously in order to justify violence against them.

            Tindle is definitely engaging in some inappropriate and unwanted touching here, but she’s not being especially violent. Her actions don’t rise to the level of thuggishness, or even a href=”https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mk2E1CoGe98″ thugeeness.

            1. So that wasn’t precisely SF’d….but what would you call that link fail?

            2. That’s not any less retarded, Hugh

        5. “hard working?”

  14. What a disgusting little slaver. Doesn’t she know that “her” culture (whatever that means) has been appropriating the fuck out of babas for, like, forever?

    1. If she was Lauryn Hill she would not want white people to buy her album.

    2. She apparently also doesn’t know that in African or Indian cultures, women generally aren’t allowed to run around or behave like her. Apparently, “her culture” mostly refers to something she concocted in her own mind for her own convenience.

  15. This is embarrassing. But obviously the kids just want to provoke fights with each other. Both sides are laying the righteous indignation on thick. The same thing is happening on a national level between Trump and Sanders. There is no difference. They key is to find an ideology to justify your pious sanctimony and then lie awake at night figuring out how to unleash it.

    1. “But obviously the kids just want to provoke fights with each other.”

      How is the kid just walking around and then getting accosted looking to provoke a fight? By defending himself against unfair harassment?

      1. Did you watch his ‘you wanna fight me?’ dance?

        1. Go cook a spoon or something.

        2. Go cook a spoon or something.

        3. Oh no! A guy who speaks while moving his arms. That’s too much.

          1. Stop appropriating my Italian culture!

  16. Other than physically grabbing him, she didn’t really do anything wrong. Everyone is entitled to be an asshole and have asshole opinions. Blowing this out of proportion will probably do no good.

    The whole Melissa click thing is far more disturbing as she actually makes calls for violence to get her way.

    1. So someone calling for the use of physical force to get their way is far more disturbing than someone actually using physical force to her their way?

      1. Look, Hugh, grabbing someone by the arm isn’t real physical force. We’ve been over this.

        1. Unless you are a Trump campaign manager 😉

          1. +2 Internet points

      2. That’s a pretty minimal display of force that would be aggravating but I don’t see any evidence that she means to follow it up with some real coercion. Click was calling for some good old fashioned gang violence.

        Of course I could be wrong in that she may have wanted to filed assault charges against him later but the video spoiled her plans. That would be much worse.

        1. Click was calling for some good old fashioned gang violence.

          If only we lived in a world where we didn’t have to blindly obey every command and request made by anyone ant any time.

          1. She did put hands on him and that is definitely stepping over bounds, but I don’t get the impression she was going to escalate it further. Click definitely wanted to escalate. She would have been fine with drawing some blood if she could have gotten someone willing and capable to do it.

            Just trying to read some intentions here. As difficult and unreliable a process that can be. And I’m generally pretty loathe to involve the legal system unless absolutely necessary.

            1. I guess we’re all fortunate that nobody actually paid attention to Click calling for some muscle then. No weapon forged by man could have stopped her after she tasted human blood.

              1. I’m not taking up blacksmithing. Talk to Lap.

                1. I was using ‘man’ in the generic sense to refer to all people. And as usual you have fallen short of that standard on many levels. Man up, Hamster.

                  1. Tolkien fail. Hang your head in shame!

                    as usual you have fallen short

                    I SAW THAT.

                    *plots your untimely demise*

    2. Yeah, other than the assault she was golden.

        1. It was *education*. She’s helping him not be so problematic.

        2. That LOOKS like battery and ACTS like it

        3. Depends on the jurisdiction whether battery is a separate offense or just a different level of assault.

          In Texas,

          Sec. 22.01. ASSAULT. (a) A person commits an offense if the person:

          (3) intentionally or knowingly causes physical contact with another when the person knows or should reasonably believe that the other will regard the contact as offensive or provocative.

          It would be assault here.

          1. Wow. This is a definition I would have expected in California. This is in Texas? We are doomed.

    3. I kind of agree with you here.

      1. That was meant for Hugh, not Lee G

    4. “Other than physically grabbing him”

      “The whole Melissa click thing is far more disturbing as she actually makes calls for violence to get her way.”

      Melissa click said she wanted to do what this woman actually did, so how is the Melissa Click thing worse?

      I actually think the Melissa Click thing was blown way out of proportion, personally.

      1. Other than being a university employee, sure. I don’t think she should be charged, but fired? Absolutely.

        1. Especially considering that her role at the university was as some kind of journalism instructor.

    5. Other than physically grabbing him, she didn’t really do anything wrong

      In the sense that being an ignorant, self-righteous prick isn’t “doing” wrong, it is simply “being” wrong.

  17. if she were a republican supporting Trump she be up on assault charges.

    1. She’d call him a hippie.

  18. What is culture, anyway? You fuckers are all appropriating my mixed-breed Italian, Scottish, German, Irish culture every damn day with your pasta, scotch whiskey, schnitzel and more whiskey.

    Assholes.

    1. -1 akvavit Tundra.

      I didn’t realize you were a mudblood and didn’t have the pure Norvegian genes. Uffda. I’m gonna have to call city hall to alert them that you are dragging down our property values.

      1. Take it away, John Winger!

        We’re mutts, Holiness.

        1. I’m laughing because I’m from a total mutt family too. We just happened to move to NW Minnesoda as a kid where everyone was Norwegian. I was something of an oddity there because the only Norwegian heritage that I could even try to claim was from my grandmother and she was adopted. Given how dark complected her skin was (my dad’s too) her claim to be Norwegian was a total fabrication.

          1. From western Pa, both my wife and I are GUKI – Germany, United Kingdom and Ireland. Pure-bred, from The Old Countries.

            None of those Eye-talians or Ay-rabs or Pollocks or Slovaks that are all over town.

            At least we don’t have any French. And when we did, we mispronounced their names (like ver-sails and dew-boyz)

    2. I’m a mutt too, is one side supposed to get angry at the other side for cultural appropriation?

      1. Probably. Personally, I just get angry at the Scottish part.

        1. “If it’s not Scottish, it’s crap!”

        2. No, you are doing it wrong. You use he Scottish part to get mad at all the other parts.

      2. Maybe it’s like with dogs. Everyone knows mutts are the smart ones.

        (let me see, English, Irish, French, German, Cherokee, Semitic here).

        I would be constantly at war with myself.

    3. Tundra, your polluting my Scottish, German, Irish culture with your filthy Eye-Tie-ness. We’re a designer breed registered with the AKC and you will have no place at Westminster!

      1. Is that right, cazzo?

        I don’t want to be in your fucking show, anyway, you goddamn JockKrautMick! As a matter of fact, I’m gonna start a breed called the Northern DagoHunPaddyThistle Arse. So there!

        *drinks (’cause that’s what mutts do)*

    4. There’s no E in scotch whisky! Get your microaggressions out of here!

    5. And the Mexican ass sex. The Mexican part is obviously from Mexico. And the ass sex part from Greece.

  19. So if someone grabs you, are you legally allowed to knock them the fuck out?

    1. Allowed? I believe it’s a moral imperative.

    2. I believe only cops are allowed to escalate violence.

      1. Allowed? I believe it’s a moral imperative.

        h/t Tundra

    3. The response needs to be proportionate, or you are past the bounds of self defense.

      1. The response needs to be proportionate to a reasonably perceived threat.

        If someone grabs me and is confrontational, I can reasonable perceive that they are might start throwing punches. The defender doesn’t have to lag any escalation, as long as his escalation is reasonable under the circumstances.

        So, yeah, somebody gets all up in your grill and grabs, you can punch them, sure.

        1. As soon as they are no longer attacking you, you stop throwing ‘bows.

    4. If you get charged for doing that, and I’m on your jury, you’ll walk.

      -jcr

    5. In Florida it is “called the stand your cultural appropriation ground” law.

    6. That depends on whether you’d be punching up or down…

  20. I personally think white men with dreads should be put to death, but only after a trial by a jury of their peers.

    As such, I cannot condone this woman’s vigilante justice.

    1. Hey. My brother had dreads and he was more rasta than that chick in the video, so who is the hypocrite now?

      1. You? Just, because.

  21. Look at their facial expressions and body language. I call BS, because they all seem to be too happy having this conversation. I bet it’s some sort of SJW anti-SJW commentary.

    Waiting for charges to filed, since the victim doesn’t have to press charges with video evidence like this.

    1. Agreed. This looks staged. They both look like they have to hold back laughter. And his speech is so affected he appears to be (badly) acting. If there is one thing millennials like (and Reason knows millennials!!) its attention whoring. What better way to get national media coverage than to stage a super stupid SJW, anti-SJW video like this? (Besides a poop swastika, of course)

  22. I thought dreadlocks were a Rastafarian thing. Is Tindle claiming to be a Rastafarian?

    1. Plenty of Hindi with dreads too. Come to think about it, dreads are ok for anybody.

  23. You’d think only lab scientists would be fighting over appropriation of someone else’s culture.

    1. +1 mold, spores, and fungus

      1. I have too much culture…a whole shitload of brett…and it sucks.

        I DID NOT PITCH IT ON PURPOSE!

        NO I DON’T KNOW WHERE MY BREAKDOWN IN SANITATION HAPPENED!

        1. Has it polluted your whole setup?

        2. I only ask on the off chance you are serious and I can offer my services as “drink every wild ale in this joint” technician.

          1. I have already replaced my “infected” plastic…and I am now fermenting my first batch since the infection…we shall see.

            And don’t get me wrong, I love a good farmhouse or god beer but ON MY TERMS!

    2. Ha!

      More often they fight over people putting their HeLa cultures in the common incubator thereby contaminating all the others. No miscegenation!

  24. …it just seems too ridiculous.

    These days? No.

    1. Ridiculous is an odd way to spell par for course.

  25. He should have claimed to be black when challenged. “What the hell are you guys talking about, yes I am black”. Would’ve made for a much more entertaining video.

    1. South Park did it. It didn’t end well.

    2. Dolezalin’!

    3. “I self identify as black and your failure to recognize my chosen racial identity is a microaggression. STOP OTHERING ME!11!!!!!!1”

      That would have been too perfect. I don’t think he was smart enough to think of it though.

  26. From the way Tindle is half smiling at one point, I still wonder if this has been staged (including grabbing the camera at the end).

    1. I suspect she was just really, really enjoying the nasty little thrill it was giving her.

      1. Probably this. There’s probably nothing more satisfying to these kinds of twits than getting to push someone around. She probably got so wet it caused the building to flood.

  27. As a peace loving young man, I dread ever being caught in an encounter like this where all sense of reason and civility are cast aside and replaced with heated, dogmatic, rhetoric for which there is no appropriate, respectful, counter. What could this woman’s greatest end be in this encounter? I wonder what in her mind, had everything worked out to her ideal, I wonder what that would have looked like?

    1. I think she got what she wanted. In his counter video, Goldstein has lost his dreadlocks. Tindle wins.

    2. “I dread ever being caught in an encounter like this”

      You used the word “dread”, microaggressor!

  28. OT: Pope Jimbo, we were right.

    Officers told Clark to put his hands in his pockets and he wouldn’t. Officer Mark Ringgenberg put his gun back in the holster and grabbed Clark’s right wrist. Officer Dustin Schwarze grabbed Clark’s other arm and dropped the handcuffs while trying to cuff him. Ringgenberg then tried a takedown move and they both fell to the ground and Ringgenberg’s back was to Clark’s stomach. Ringgenberg felt his gun go from his hip to the small of his back. Ringgenberg reached back and felt Clark’s hand on his gun. He repeatedly told Schwarze: “He’s got my gun, he’s got my gun.’

    Schwarze put his gun to edge of Clark’s mouth and said “Let go or I’m going to shoot you.”
    Schwarze said Clark looked at him and said “I’m ready to die.”

    Schwarze pulled the trigger once, but the slide caught. He pulled the trigger again and the gun went off, 61 seconds after the intitial encounter began.

    Additional medics arrived and placed Clark on a stretcher.

    1. Was that account based upon video, or solely on the word of the testiliars?

      1. There appears to be corroborating video. A cop I know said as much a couple months ago. I agree with the Pope, though. They went to DEFCON 1 pretty fast.

        1. Since they always walk around at DEFCON 1.5

      2. Not sure. There is some video, the police have been trying to keep it from being released.

        They were claiming they couldn’t release it because it might prejudice any future trials if charges were brought. Now that no charges were brought it will be interesting to see what their new reason for not releasing it is.

        I totally share your mistrust of the cops, but there were a bunch of “eyewitnesses” in the neighborhood who claimed they shot him while he was handcuffed. The press conference pretty much laid out the 999 reasons that proved that wasn’t true.

        So you have a situation where every single goddamned person is an asshole. The cops, the noncops and the victim.

        1. Personally I assume that every word a cop says or writes down in relation to an encounter with a member of the public is false unless there is video and/or audio that confirms it.

          Honest cops are the exception, not the rule.

          1. Honest cops aren’t honest or they wouldn’t be cops. It’s like saying humanitarian Nazi, you can’t belong to an awful institution and then claim to be a basically decent human.

            1. “Are we the baddies”?

    2. Yeah, I’ve been watching the live tweets from the conference.

      As someone who hasn’t paid all that much attention to the details of the case, it sounds like a semi-legit shoot. Seems like they pretty much proved that he wasn’t cuffed when they shot him.

      My only problem is that once again, they escalated things too quickly.

    3. Schwarze?! Erm….

    4. Based off the evidence provided it would seem like a justified shooting. Of course objective truth is off the table whenever cops (or the state) control the narrative.

    5. Gallery: Jamar Clark, 24, was fatally shot by police Nov. 15, 2016, in Minneapolis. ORG XMIT: MIN2016032820200005

      Back to the future?

    6. I don’t understand the ‘slide caught’ comment. If you pull the trigger and the gun doesn’t go off you have a dud or a hung round – the slide can’t get ‘caught’ until the round ignites at which point it could jam or get caught on something (slidebite?) on the recoil and reloading. And, if the slide did get ‘caught’ you can’t pull the trigger and expect any effect. Right?

      1. I have not see the video but the ‘slide caught’ comment is strange. Restoras is correct, if the slide gets caught you have to manually do something to clear the chamber and basically reset the gun. You just can’t pull the trigger again.

      2. I suspect he’s referring to the slide being out of battery when he tried to fire. With a contact gunshot (i.e., muzzle pressed against target), it’s possible with the application of very little force to push the slide back far enough to where an automatic pistol will “unlock” and be unable to fire.

        1. Interesting, yes I can see that happening, at least from the standpoint of not being able to fire, and then being able to when the pressure against the front of the slide was removed.

  29. We are taking the matter seriously and will promptly and thoroughly investigate this incident through applicable University channels, including our campus student conduct procedures.

    Title IX demands that the one with the penis get expelled.

    1. Because “fairness”.

  30. So, I shouldn’t buy hip hop or rap or watch MTV? OH….what a loss!!

    1. But what about Tyler Perry’s terrific selection of films?

      1. You leave Madea alone!

        1. Tyler Perry guilty of gender appropriation.

    2. That’s the real problem with labeling people and actions… it starts out with a specific definition (if I recall, it was just “white folks adopting an ethnic activity and claiming that they originally started it“)… but then it gets perverted into “white folks copying minority folks, period”. For a group of people claiming to be against fascism, they sure are cultivating their own brand of it.

  31. Tindle grabs his arm and physically restrains him.

    Tindle then appears to attack the cameraman just before the clip ends.

    Seems like she is guilty of assault.

  32. I posted a link to this in the (non-PM links) Trump-fest last night, but checking some of the comments in the Chron (where I found it) suggests it might be an exercise in the film-school classes there.
    IOWs, we (me too) might have been scammed.

      1. OK, nothing more than a couple of comments in the Chron, no confirmation:

        ” cfbrown Rank 2021
        @Apollo100 First, if you cannot figure out this video is staged, you are beyond help. Do you think most schools have cameramen standing in the hall with camera set up and ready to film “altercations” between students? Do you think people in real life say stupid staged lines like they did in this video? It’s fake.
        Second, what Trump’s manager did was violently yank someone from behind who was not a threat to anyone. It was a clear and indefensible physical assault, which is why the prosecutor charged him with assault.”
        http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/…..215259.php

        Not sure at this point.

        1. In his rebuttal video, Goldstein said that the incident started upstairs and that “she [Tindle] followed me down two flights of stairs.” The guy taking the video likely pulled out his phone on the way down. At least that’s what it sounds like. It still could be staged.

    1. That would be a very strange film school exercise.

    2. thats my impression as well. it all seems a little too contrived. There’s no leadup to the whole thing, they just cut right in the middle of the silly “White Guy Defense”

    3. I wish we’ve been scammed.

      1. The sad thing is that whether scam or not …. this sort of thing has become so normalized that its incredibly easy to pantomime it. Everyone’s role in the Victim of Oppression narrative is already scripted for them.

    4. So it’s a training video on how to handle white people when they don’t go along with your fantasy?

      1. Cultural Sensitivity Training for permanently aggrieved classes.

    5. I could buy this as a scam. Corey was REALLY affected while he was talking. I mean… really.

  33. This kind of righteous indignation is the same impulse that fuels radical Islam. And Trumpkinism. It’s funny to see it laid out so starkly, though. Complete with dance moves.

  34. The smile is the hallmark smirk of an SJW who is enjoying their power.

    Anyone else curious what she stuck on the wall towards the end there?

    1. A proximity mine?

      /N64goldeneye

          1. Hate the game not the player son!

            1. It was programmed like that

  35. The best comment I have heard about this was a question about whether the SJWs in this video were committing cultural appropriation themselves, because they’re wearing clothes.

    1. Is cultural appropriation even possible given humanity’s genetic lineage?

      Aren’t we all…one?

      1. Culture =! genetic lineage. But that makes the debate all the dumber, because they’re essentially saying that the happenstances of time and place should be preserved in amber and should override any other consideration like cultural affinity or the essential sameness of all people. Social justice dweebs are arguing for division and racial essentialism.

        1. True. I guess what I was getting at is that since we all basically came from the same place it would be reasonable to assume that culture has the same origin, and all subsequent deviations in culture build off whatever could be considered the original human culture (wherever that may be), so is it even possible to appropriate culture if it all has the same origin?

          1. Honestly, I think you’re giving them too much credit. The notion devolves on a pretty basic premise, white people are wrong and terrible. The point isn’t preserving or elevating culture, it’s castigating whites.

            1. I just like to follow these things to their conclusion. Trying to peer into that space where SJW-thought lurks, like some sort of anti-Kwisatz Haderach, is terrifying, so I just like to see where the train of thought goes.

              1. I just like to see where the train of thought goes.

                Straight off a fucking cliff?

                Actually, there is no train of thought with these shitheads. Because they don’t think, just emote.

              2. “I must not feelz. Feelz is the mind-killer. Feelz is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my feelz. I will permit them to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the feelz have gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain.”

        2. OF course they are – that’s how they get their power.

  36. She has to defend the hairstyle, it’s practically the only fuckin’ thing Africans have invented.

    1. I know you’re trolling, but no love for the banjo?

    2. Don’t forget peanut butter.

    3. hey now. not cool. have a little respect for the wheel, agriculture, fire, language, and AIDS.

    4. Africans didn’t invent it.

    5. Since women haven’t invented anything I’m going to need manservants do everything for me, out of respect for your guys’ culture. Oh, but a woman invented chocolate chip cookies so hands off.

      1. Thank you. Finally, someone well-cultured.

        Anyway, you invented nagging, and beauty. She’s sort of nagging. Alas, she seems unqualified to do beauty.

        Of course men invented beating others down, so… uh, I’m not sure the combination works to her advantage.

    6. Slavery was invented in Africa.

      1. Slavery was an improvement on the previous economic model of cannibalism and persistent genocide.

    7. Stone tools.

  37. San Francisco State University promotes the rights of the campus community to engage in free speech,

    bull fucking shit

  38. This happened in my neighborhood, and my Yik Yak feed gives me hope: I’d say the comments are 4:1 anti-PC/SJW.

    1. Bob Marley is universal.

      Bob Marley would never condone denying someone some dreads.

      It should also be said that dreads aren’t just an African thing. Dreadlocks are used by Tibetan Buddhists, they in the Bible, they’re used by Hindus. I believe Jain holy men use them as well.

      Many cultures use them, and they all signify the same thing–asceticism.

      Not only is she wrong to bring up cultural appropriation–she’s wrong on the facts. No doubt, Bob Marley popularized the style, but it isn’t just an African thing.

      Sampson in the Bible lost his power when Delila cut off his dreads.

      1. Bob Marley was also half-white.

        1. Damien is half white.

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GZlJGERbvE

          But what does that have to do with anything?

          Slightly Stoopid is all white, too.

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_PqJC5_80o

          But so what?

          Dreads have been at thing in California since the early 1980s. It’s a ska/punk, surf/skate suburban, white boy thing–and it’s been that way for 36 years.

          1. Trying to help your point by pointing out that the guy who popularized dreadlocks had a mixed ancestry – you know, the “Bob is universal” thing?

            1. That’s right!

              He had a mixed progeny, too, and Damien’s locks are even more prominent than Bob’s ever were.

            2. DOES NO ONE CARE ABOUT ZIGGY?

              1. He’s Rita’s kid, isn’t he?

                Bob left Rita. I mean, it was good and all.

                Ziggy seemed kinda commercial.

              2. “DOES NO ONE CARE ABOUT ZIGGY?”

                I know, right? We never got to see him in Quantum Leap. Bastards.

      2. So unless this guy practices extreme self-discipline, he’s appropriating the culture of ascetics. Guilty guilty guilty!

      3. Bob Marley is universal. […] It should also be said that dreads aren’t just an African thing.

        In fact, they are primarily not an African thing. Of course, some Africans have always worn them, but they had particular cultural significance mainly in the Near East, India, and Northern Europe.

        In different words, Bob Marley culturally appropriated the deadlocks from the tribe of Judah.

        1. Indians have a significant presence in West Indies (see Naipul) where they worked alongside Africans on sugar plantations.

          The aesthetics of Rastafarian asceticism seem to have a lot in common with Shiva devotees, who still grow dreadlocks and smoke marijuana during Shiva festivals–which they believe Shiva gave them so they could commune with him.

          http://tinyurl.com/goanzzw

          1. Rastafarianism is an Abrahamic faith, though. The dreadlocks may have been a confluence of Near East and Indian practices. In any case: not African culture.

        2. Here’s Shiva with his dreadlocks.

          http://www.cob.montevallo.edu/…../Shiva.jpg

          Here’s one of his ganja smoking devotees smokin’ out like he’s Peter Tosh.

          http://etzi.pm/wp-content/uplo…..singha.jpg

          1. Incidentally, the word “ganja” is from Sanskrit by way of Urdu

            Hindi g??j? & Urdu g?nj?, from Sanskrit ga?j? hemp

            http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/ganja

            I’m just sayin’.

        3. Whoa. RU tellin’ me Jamaica’s NOT the capital of Africa?

      4. “Jain holy men”…fuck

        /Ian Cormac

      5. “Jain holy men”…fuck

        /Ian Cormac

    2. Why do you think they want it censored?

      Apparently nothing is more violent than anonymously and voluntarily reading anonymously posted opinions with which you differ.

  39. Is she guilty of cultural appropriation for wearing clothing?

  40. Bonita?

    I’m gonna give her the benefit of the doubt, and assume she’s Spanish. Or that she got permission to use that name to express solidarity with those oppressed by the Spanish Empire.

    1. Could also be Portuguese. And as far as black slavery went, Brazil took the cake, and kept eating it until 1888. Now enjoy my rhymes.

    2. That contract is up next quarter.

  41. Tindle’s thuggish behavior was completely inappropriate, and she deserves plenty of derision?partly for her awful views on cultural appropriation, but mostly because she used violence to back up her opinion.

    NOT

    OKAY!

  42. “Watch a Black Student Assault White Teen Because His Dreadlocks Are Cultural Appropriation”

    And people wonder why the white, blue collar, middle class is lining up behind an anti-PC rogue like Trump.

    The reason the white, blue collar, middle class is abandoning the Democratic Party is because the Democratic Party is chasing them out.

  43. Dreadlocks were common among German tribes, Vikings, Buddhists, Spartans, and Celts. The modern association of African Americans with dreadlocks goes back through Rastafari, which is actually rooted in Biblical, non-African traditions. So, there has been cultural appropriation, it just went the other way.

  44. A San Francisco State University student of color harassed and assaulted a white student earlier this week, accusing him of stealing her culture?because he had dreadlocks.

    The encounter took place in the Cesar Chavez Student Center, and was captured on video. The video clearly shows a black female student, identified as Bonita Tindle, confronting a dreadlocks-wearing white male named Cory Goldstein. Tindle is accompanied by a black male: both insist to Goldstein that his dreadlocks are tantamount to cultural appropriation.

    There’s so much SJW stupidity in these first two paragraphs that I may actually slip into a coma from DERP overload just from reading it.

    student of color: she’s black, just say black. Or “African American”. This “person of color” turn of phrase that’s popped up lately is so fucking stupid…

    the Cesar Chavez Student Center: Ugh, at least it’s not the Hugo Chavez Student Center. I suppose I should be thankful for small miracles…

    a dreadlocks-wearing white male named Cory Goldstein: Wash your god-damned hair, hippy…

    Tindle is accompanied by a black male: both insist to Goldstein that his dreadlocks are tantamount to cultural appropriation: Get a fucking life, you stupid SJW twats!

  45. That kid shoulda given her the pimp roll as he left.

    1. Should have given her a pimp slap.

  46. Given how obsessed universities are with creating safe spaces for students, I’m surprised SFSU isn’t taking more decisive action. What good is a safe space, after all, if it does not guarantee actual physical safety?

    I’m not surprised, “safe spaces” have nothing to do with providing all students with physical safety. They’re about providing SJW dipshits with emotional and intellectual safe spaces where they never have to engage with any thoughts or ideas that they disagree with. In that context using physical violence against anyone who offends them in their safe space is A-OK.

    Hell, why else do you think they’ve been so keen on equating rhetoric/ speech they disagree with with violence? It’s so that when they respond with actual physical violence they can do so with a clear conscience.

    1. They’re not even about that.

      They’re about *power*. Nothing more. Power to control others.

      1. yep

        even if the vid is a pantomime for the sake of the camera, the whole point is that “Victim-Class member” gets to play Authority Figure and dictate the terms of everyone else’s lives.

  47. He should have told here that that rat’s nest *she’s* got? Yeah she’s able to have that due to electricity and chemistry – which belong to *my* culture!

  48. Plus, fuck ‘Bonita’ for making me feel some sort of sympathy for a white dude with dreadlocks.

  49. I guess no more using fireworks if you’re not Chinese and no more eating spaghetti if you’re not Italian.

    1. good one.

    2. Or no more eating spaghetti even if your Italian. Marco Polo = King of Cultural Appropriation.

      1. You’re…I know. need a damn edit button.

  50. What this is, I can’t even. Wow. Just. Wow.

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  52. Bitch deserved to get dropped on her ass. Trying to screech a heckler’s veto to someone else’s hairstyle is bad enough, but as soon as she grabbed him, it should have cost her some pain.

    -jcr

  53. No, no, no. Safe spaces are for seriously dangerous situations, like when someone writes “Trump 2016” in chalk on a sidewalk.

  54. Fake scandal

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  56. looks fake

  57. Black Girl Privilege:

    1) Blacks get to police cultural appropriation
    2) A man does not hit a woman.

    Finally justice. Lovely.

  58. I would say the dreads aren’t appropriation, but the gesticulating sure the fuck is.

  59. By the way, compare “historical disadvantage” and historical culture. Think of male culture, and extend it to boys’ clubs (figuratively, and very nearly literally). Why would women get access to that culture and these clubs? Anti-discimination (positive rights) is (cultural) appropriation. “Historical disadvantage” is the necessary concept/corrective to give women and minorities the right to appropriate, and the right to deny others appropriation. Naturally, this doesn’t answer why women had a right to participate in historical male cultures, to appropriate parts of these cultures. In the absence of such a right, actionable “historical disadvantage” (a rights violation) becomes nearly impossible to determine (and not just one would have to engage in a comparable worth/disadvantage/advantage analysis). So that concept is on shaky grounds.

    In short, women get to wear pants, and get to deny men skirts*. I’m not sure what hot pants mean here, apart from combining the best of pants and skirts — when women wear them.

    *Very complicated when it comes to Scots, it’d require historical exegesis — but “historical disadvantage” would probably trump anything.

  60. From where I stand, they both look/sound like they belong to THE SAME DAMN CULTURE!!!

  61. Is this a form of black on black crime?

  62. If someone puts their hands on you hit them in the face as hard as you can one time. One time so hard her grandchildren need bike helmets

  63. The sad thing is that Dreadlocks originated in India, not Africa. And isn’t the black chick ‘appropriating White culture’? She’s not wearing African garb…She’s wearing white clothing, underwear, shoes, etc. How absurd.

    1. Dreads are from everywhere. Don’t wash or comb long hair and you get dreads.

  64. “The encounter took place in the Cesar Chavez Student Center,”

    Lets just start there. Who is responsible for naming the student center? They could take a lesson from ’50s Mississippi. I have the rope.

  65. Assuming Goldstein is a Jew he should have told her he’s emulating Samson.

  66. You know what’s cultural appropriation?

    All non Italians who eat pizza.

  67. Learning from other cultures or “Cultural Appropriation” is one of the greatest things humanity can do.

  68. The smile on her face, the overdone bobbing and weaving of Sideshow Bob, and the movement in and out of the camera…

    I won’t presume certainty, but this doesn’t pass my smell test. I believe it’s staged, and as such doesn’t serve as a good conversation starter. But it’s an interesting conversation, so…(ducks and runs for cover).

    1. Two complete dipshits gesturing towards each other. That’s about it.

      Kind of like animals smelling each other before the fight.

  69. seriously, from my point of view, to send the girl and her friend to mandatory sensitivity training would be priceless.

  70. What’s the point of a melting pot if all the ingredient need to remain separated?

    1. Clearly marginal oppression by the university.

  71. This episode underscores the value of martial arts training. Bullies sense it is not a good idea to test you, and the training helps you avoid entangling confrontations, disentangle if confronted, and to free yourself to go about your business with minimum interaction.

  72. Black people don’t commit crimes in America.

    Only teens, youths and protesters commit crimes.

    Didn’t you know that?

  73. The most known set of dreadlocks, at least recently, are worn by the Rastafarians. Per Wikipedia, Rastafari maintain that locks are required by Leviticus 21:5 and the Nazirite law in Numbers 6:5. In other words, they were inspired by Nazarites – a group of religiously ascetic Jews who took vows not to cut their hair. Sampson (once again, a figure out of the Jewish Torah/old testament for Christianity) is considered by many to have been a Nazarite and has very much been claimed by the Rastafarian as one of their own. Alternatively, to many Rastafarians, dreadlocks also symbolizes the mane (locks) of the lion in the Lion of Judah – a title which they associate with Ethiopia’s Kings. Prior to that symbol being associated with Ethopia’s kingship, the Lion of Judah was and is the symbol of the Hebrew tribe of Judah. According to the Torah, the tribe of Judah consists of the descendants of Judah, the fourth son of Jacob. So, once again, we’re suddenly back in Jewish culture and history.

    So, the dreadlocks were part of Jewish culture prior to being adopted by other groups. I can’t tell from the article if Goldstein is, in fact Jewish – but given his name, it is very likely that one or more of his ancestors was. So, I think a pretty good argument could be made that he was not, in fact, appropriating any culture other than his own.

    1. Putting the hypocrisy of confronting someone of Jewish descent regarding their dreadlocks to one side, personally, I hate the entire argument. The fundamental assumption embedded in this confrontation is that there is something wrong with “cultural appropriation”. This assumption is contrary to the entire history of ideas.

      Culture is not static. Cultures interact. Cultures borrow from one another. Cultures grow. Occasionally, cultures even die (or merge into other cultures). The Greek’s gods are renamed and become the Roman pantheon. The midwinter pagan celebrations of Germany become the Yule log and Christmas tree. The Easter Bunny is generally acknowledged to be a leftover from the pagan festival of Eostre, a great northern goddess whose symbol was a rabbit or hare. The exchange of eggs in Spring is an ancient custom, celebrated by many cultures. The arab communities preserved greek and roman advances in mathematics (and add their own contribution like the 0) until they were re-discovered and/or re-transmitted back to Europe. Christianity spread and the influence of the druids in Ireland declines (but a number of the pre-Christian deities become revered “Saints” for a period of time).

    2. And I’m sorry, but not all cultures deserve to survive. I’m glad that the Spanish and their allies overthrew the Aztec, ending the traditions of human sacrifice in which it is estimated that 20,000 people were sacrificed each year with special occasions demanding more blood ? like when a new temple to Huitzilopochtli was dedicated in 1487, an estimated 80,400 people were sacrificed. I would also suggest that the drug dealing “culture” of the inner city with its preoccupation and/or focus on turf, honor and revenge has clearly resulted in many innocent dead or true victims, the creation of a climate of fear which has lead to the effective destruction of entire neighborhoods, and the destruction of many lives – whether lost to the gangs, lost to prison or lost to the grave.

      If you want to focus on culture, don’t focus on cultural appropriation. This is a red herring. We should be focusing on what elements in a culture that bring the maximum human freedom and happiness to the members of that culture and those people outside the culture who interact with members of the culture. We should be focusing on how to change toxic elements in a culture. We should be focusing on the impact that a culture has on both the community participating in that culture and in the broader communities around that culture. This is the real battle – and in its name, I’d be happy to appropriate anything from another culture that works.

  74. So this does look completely staged. But assuming it’s real:

    She said something towards the end about him putting his hands on her-that is pretty insidious. Harass and grab him-he pushes off-and she will blame him for assaulting her despite the obvious fact that she was the aggressor.

    I wouldn’t be surprised if HE gets kicked out of school before this is all over.

  75. These PC fucktards need their fucking teeth knocking down their throats. Woman or not I wouldn’t have hesitated to give her a bloody nose. Seriously, I am sick of these bottom feeding, pieces of shit. If this would’ve happened in reverse, a white student hitting a black student it would be all over the hypocritical, lame stream media news cycle and the University would’ve been all over it like flies on shit.

  76. RE: Watch a Black Student Assault White Teen Because His Dreadlocks Are Cultural Appropriation

    Is this assault what they call toleration on college campuses today?

  77. This woman is exactly right, cultural appropriation in all it’s forms must be stopped. To that end, I expect all non-Europeans to stop using the internet, computers, phones, light bulbs…really anything that uses electricity in general. Oh, and they need to stop using cars and any other motorized vehicle. And airplanes. Oh, and anything that contains plastic. And any clothes with synthetic fibers. And any food grown with fertilizer made using the Haber process. And no more immunizations, of course, or any other fruit of modern Western medicine. And….and….and…

    These things are all deeply important to my culture, so I’m sure this young lady will understand and agree.

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  82. Ok…watched the video. This staged!!! I don’t care what the kid says on his face book page….They both should be arrested for bad acting though….

  83. Most of those people who are screaming about appropriation have very little knowledge of history or cultural exchange. I personally find the kimono debate interesting because the organizers, who are Korean-American, Chinese-American, and Philippine-American, can often be seen lecturing the counter protesters, who are actual Japanese elderly ladies. I find it hard to comprehend the amount of narcissism required to do that. What amazes me is that most of the time, the protesters are basing their argument on what is actually a shallow and stereotyped knowledge of the subject. One thing I heard lately is about toe rings. The people making the argument assumed that toe rings are solely a part of Indian culture, and did not bother to research the matter. I know from archaeological evidence that my Nordic ancestors were also pretty fond of toe rings. I assume that lots of other cultures did as well.
    The impulse to police others behavior is fundamentally an anti-social trait. It gives people who enjoy criticizing others an excuse to do so. Of course the reasoning behind it falls apart when you think the argument out completely, so they never do that.

  84. “Could it BE any more staged?”

  85. The same thing is happening on a national level between Trump and Sanders. There is no difference.

  86. Hey, where all those liberaltarians now? Did they expect this brilliant “cultural appropriation” nonsense in the age of Obama?

  87. Some one needs to ask this young woman why she’s wearing “European” clothing. That’s cultural appropriation. Why is she wearing shoes? Why is she wearing a bra? That was invented by a Frenchman and she’s obviously of African descent…that’s cultural appropriation!

  88. Some one needs to ask this young woman why she’s wearing “European” clothing. That’s cultural appropriation. Why is she wearing shoes? Why is she wearing a bra? That was invented by a Frenchman and she’s obviously of African descent…that’s cultural appropriation!

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  93. It isn’t fascism when leftwingers do it.

  94. This story has created big waves. There is even a petition to remove the young lady from the SFSU. I totally agree with the spirit of petition and I think the young lady is an idiot and a Social Justice Warrior (SJW) bully.
    However, I won’t sign the petition because:

    – I don’t want to act like an SJW (if the roles were reversed, the SJWs would sign the petition in droves). I prefer not to participate in online bullying and mobbing.

    – This is not real aggression because nobody got hurt. Perhaps it’s “microaggression” but not aggression. The SJWs consider “microaggression” as real aggresion, let’s not imitate them.

    – I think university administrations should stay out of student life, except in extreme situations where people get hurt. Here again, online mobbing to force the university to remove the young lady guilty of light pushing and (very) stupid words is exactly what the SJWs would do.

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  100. Too bad the black students won’t culturally appropriate the White Man’s culture of acting civilized.

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