Long, Long Ago, in a Galaxy Far, Far Away, a Star Wars Actor Wore an Atlas Shrugged T-Shirt
And people have opinions about that.
Oh, look, another bizarre, ginned up social media outrage of people offended over something stupid. Actually, despite the existence of news media stories, I'm not even entirely certain the "outrage" is true.
Let's step back a moment. So, there's this new movie out, Star Wars: The Force Awakens. You may have heard of it. Its actors are now in the process of becoming big stars, and so everybody is absorbing every single detail about their past.
One of the actors, Oscar Isaac, plays one of the big new leads, Poe Dameron, the ace pilot seemed destined to romance ex-stormtrooper Finn in upcoming installments (do not try to dissuade me from this—it was obviously love at first sight). Isaac is a pretty established actor, and somebody found a picture of him in front of a billboard for one of his previous movies five years ago.
But! He was wearing a T-shirt for Ayn Rand's Atlas Shrugged in the picture. THE HORRORS! THE HORRORS! They have a crush on a guy who might be a libertarian or objectivist!
Well, maybe (for both the outrage and whether Isaac is even an Objectivist). There were a bunch of online media posts in the vein of "People on Tumblr and Twitter Are Really Upset About This!" What these stories seem to have in common is they find somewhere between five to 10 social media posts that are upset and then declare this is a thing that is actually happening. Remember the handful of Twitter racists upset over Finn being black? They were just random folks, and clearly their attitudes had absolutely no impact on the film's success, yet here's The Daily Beast writing about them back in the day. There are racist people on the Internet, y'all!
The Daily Dot's piece (which has been refracted and bounced through other media sites) has the same tenor. A handful of people are seemingly disappointed that Isaac may be an objectivist or a Rand fan. This is characterized as a "Tumblr meltdown."
I find the idea hilarious. I can only imagine what Rand might actually say about the responses were she still around. There's a handful of people so out of tune with their own sense of entitlement that they do not grasp that without a robust capitalistic society focused on meeting the needs of recreational consumers, they would have no idea who Oscar Isaac is, and not only would there be no Star Wars movies (seriously is there a bigger example of American capitalism than the country-sized economy created by the Star Wars series and its merchandising?), they would not have the social media platforms to complain that a celebrity might just have a different view of the world from them.
But then again, it's still not entirely clear that there even is any outrage, or whether it's phony outrage media outlets are playing up in blog posts just for page views (like this one!). One of the tweeters who said she felt "deeply betrayed" subsequently said she was joking after her tweet got inexplicable media attention.
Regardless, the story took on a life of its own based on absolutely nothing but a single picture. If you need somebody to call the image "problematic" for you, The Mary Sue's got you covered. Salon is there to tell you what it means when you discover your "Internet boyfriend" isn't like you after all. Somebody even started a Libertarians for Oscar Isaac Facebook page, again with no real knowledge that Isaac actually is a libertarian other than a picture of him wearing a shirt.
Well, at least it's not one of those goddamned Che Guevara shirts.
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I'm going to pass up the obvious comment that things posted to Twitter are not in themselves news, and instead point out that Drive is an excellent movie.
I want the scorpion jacket so much. With the blood on it, of course.
That jacket is the only part of the movie I don't like. The part that likes that jacket is the only part of you I don't like.
Hey Hugh, you want to get in this elevator with me?
(hides fire extinguisher behind back)
Had Episiarch said he hated the jacked, you'd have responded that you loved it. I'm on to your game, Akston.
I liked Drive the first time I saw it when it starred James Caan and was called Thief. But yes, Drive is an excellent movie.
The difference is that there was very little dialogue in Drive, while all the dialogue in Thief was drowned out by the obnoxious synth score.
So you really want to try and take Nicole's tiara, don't you. I get it. You're jealous of her worstness. We've all been there at times.
It is pretty magnificent.
I want it!
(grabs for tiara, slips, falls)
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Nicole is a punk. I'm twice the nicole she'll ever be.
Well, she is pretty small, so that makes sense.
And Hugh is getting a little pudgy, as well.
The holidays are hard on everybody's diets, Bobarian - that egg nog wasn't gonna drink itself. Also, Hugh is the only person in the world who actually eats all those fruitcakes that people have been passing around for decades.
*reaches for fainting couch*
Dude, the homages to Thief are part of what makes it so great. The soundtrack might as well have been done by Tangerine Dream.
I agree, I was just being a snarky tool.
you got the tool part right anyway...
Finally, someone who appreciates me.
err, I thought it was done by Tangerine Dream
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqEujUKoi9Q
and btw, I knew that because I like Tangerine Dream. Don't judge me
Thief is true American Classic. Fact.
Drive suuuuuuuuucks.
It SUUUUUUUUUUUCCCCCKKKKKKKKSSSSSSS
If you're not on TEAM DRIVE, you're against us!
Hey MJ, why not come share this elevator with Epi and me...
The elevator scene was OK. Christina Hendricks's brain exploding was fantastic. Ditto the opening scene. Everything else was a fucking bore.
You can't just point a camera at Ryan Gosling's blank face and call it a movie!
But he's so dreamy! No homo, of course
Was there any goddamn point to him wearing the face mask near the end of the movie? He uses it to creep up to the door of the diner, looks in, then walks away. He could've accomplished the same thing with binoculars! Then he just waits to easily run Hellboy off the road. It's the most anti-climactic 'pulpy thriller' ever.
"Then he just waits to easily run Hellboy off the road"
Hellboy had his own movie - two of them actually.
Citations needed.
"He's so dreamy."
-rhywun
I'm sorry, but the best I can muster towards Gosling is a big, sighing, "Meh."
I think the 'no homo' part was where the citation was needed.
Incorrect. What's with those eyes of his? Could they be any closer together?
I'm glad to hear some womanly input on this. I always thought he had dead eyes, the kind suggesting that not much is happening in that skull. Supposedly that is not the case, but he still looks like a doofus to me.
I think you guys are all kind of missing the point of the movie. Which was to be awesome, not to showcase Gosling.
Not a bug, for some of us.
yes if he was a frigging Cyclops!!!
You know, I really could use more blood on my scorpion jacket.
sooo that would put you on team STOP?
An excellent movie yes that could have been even better if it was about 20 min shorter. Why the fuck does every movie have to be two hours now?
I don't mind long movies if they need to be long, but it does seem movies are running longer just because. Hateful 8 needed to be tightened up a bit.
I can't wait to see Hateful 8. Long but good?
Just watch Reservoir Dogs again.
And be stuck in the middle with you? No thanks!
Let me know after you see it, I'm interested to see if you read it the same way.
It always chills me to the core when I agree with Hugh.
(shudders)
If Madsen cuts off someone's ear to talk into it, consider me sold.
Saw it. Yes, long. And yes, good. A better story than Django, IMO.
I liked it, but it could have been really good with some editing.
It does not feel like 3 hours, though it probably could have dropped some dialogue in the opening hour. Some of the conversations get a little repetitive.
So they can inflate it to three hours on cable.
He was also in HBO's Show Me a Hero, which showed various aspects of public housing. May-haps that story influenced his t-shirt buying decision making.
The photo was from 2009, so the story is even more stupid and should be.
Drive is that old? I still haven't seen it.
Where's muh hat tip?!
You don't ask for hat tips. You take them.
Is this a "Troy" reference? Because that movie sucked.
The only way to know is if in the next movie, he's wearing a monocle under his X-Wing pilot helmet.
And his helmet is replaced with a top hat. And you discover that he owns a spice mine and uses orphan slave labor.
He's using orphans to construct the new Death Star. And he's not even paying them minimum wage!
pays them in gruel...bwahahaha
"Politically active"?....check
Feelz?....check
Righteous indignation? ...check
Smug superiority? ...check
Phaser set to "shame"? ....check
Hating the other tribe? ...check
The American gibber-rabble.
They don't use pansy ass phasers in Star Wars, fool.
WELL, THEY SHOULD.
hard ass mutha fucka phasers???
Major rout occurring. http://www.cnbc.com/
Holy shit, the dow dropped nearly ten points in just the 20 seconds I was checking out the page.
OT: on the same page
"Macy's excuse [unseasonably warm weather] doesn't explain everything"
I walked through Macy's not long ago and was shocked at how unbelievably expensive everything is, before quickly hightailing it over to Penny's. Those implausibly high MSRP's that other chains put on their labels to make you think you're getting such a great deal? Those are the prices Macy's is charging.
They move most of their product with Friday sales and 20% off coupons.
I was able to get some All Clad pans there for cheaper than Amazon, but that was the perfect storm of sales and coupons. I'll never get that deal again.
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Please , God-let this be a Poe.
A story about a potential non-story, I think thats how legends begin
And destroyed several squadrons of TIE fighters single-handedly.
The outraged Marxians would take it as an example of vulgar exuberance, of course! Even when they stood in line to see the movie.
...Poe Dameron, the ace pilot seemed destined to romance ex-stormtrooper Finn in upcoming installments (do not try to dissuade me from this?it was obviously love at first sight).
Oh, HELL no. If they try this PC shit the franchise will not get one more red cent from this moviegoer. Kids watch and emulate what they see in iconic film series like these. We as a culture should not go in for the mixing of the races.
You have finally written something that I agree with.
So that leaves Rey single? Perfect.
/lubes lightsaber
Doyers, you and I both know that people who take the sacred Jedi vow aren't allowed to have romantic entanglements.
It's not romantic unless our lightsabers touch!
Don't cross the... beams?
I assume you had the same complaints about the gay bromance between Obi Wan and Anakin in the prequels, or Han and Chewbacca in the originals.
Since when is there anything gay about a bromance?
The off-camera sex was pretty gay.
Nothing is inherently gay about bromance, which is why Guy Ritchie movies are 1000% hetero. I specifically added 'gay' to modify bromance.
STEVE SMITH APPROVE OF HAN AND CHEWIE TOGETHER!
Kashyyyk is very well known for their...comfort wookies.
SF needs to expand this concept into a STEVE SMITH origin story.
Warty Hugeman travels back in time (and space), to the planet Kashyyk, where he "comes" across a comfort wookie named STEEVEHORSMYTHE, who he renames "STEVE SMITH"...
Was this on Life Day?
It was called Life Day before Warty got there.
Now it's known as....
Warty ventures down to the Shadowlands and finds a bunch of no-good Mandalorians. The End.
/kotor
FYI: they have KOTOR for the phone and it's pretty good.
I'm holding out for a HD remake of KOTOR for the PS4... Let me go light my Guadalupe candle.
That will literally never happen. But they have both KOTOR and KOTOR II at the Apple game store. Probably Steam too.
I ain't fucking around with no establish intellectual properties. Disney would cut holes in me until there were enough for all their lawyers to fuck me at once.
Gotta play it safe, man. They'd sue the 'beetus right out of you.
Noes! Muh beetus!
Google Wookierotica...
No.
False analysis anyway.
Poe is obviously a robosexual.
*Spoiler*
Did you see how slobbered on his 'little buddy' when they got back together?
This is why those robots aren't allowed to speak in an understandable language (and why they have so many ports on their sides).
Meet The Wife That Han Solo Never Had [danger: Gizmodo, but bear with me]
Oh Snap!
John Boyega says a gay Star Wars romance between Poe and Finn exists only 'in Oscar Isaac's head'
...or China, or Russia, or the rest of Asia, or...
Sorry, Scott - talk to Suderman. Not gonna happen.
If they try this PC shit the franchise will not get one more red cent from this moviegoer. Kids watch and emulate what they see in iconic film series like these. We as a culture should not go in for the mixing of the races.
From the second link in the article;
You are damned right I won't pay to pass the 'We have always been at war with East Asia.' straight, white slave-owner guilt trip to the kiddies.
It makes me glad that I steal this shit.
Kids watch and emulate what they see in iconic film series like these.
SOOOO TRUE!
Little Chin Jr. keeps telling me he's going to simply walk into Mordor!
Every one every where must conform to my rigid ideological preferences or I'm going to stomp my foot and go to my room and never come out again!
/ 13 year old girl and/or SJW
I find this . . . problematic.
And I will add that Ex Machina was an excellent movie and that Isaac was great in it, as was that little red-headed boy who is the son of that big red-headed man and who has been in literally every movie released in the past six months.
Ron Howard?
Domhall Gleeson, son of Brendan Gleeson AKA Mad Eye Moody
It was refreshing to see that the First Order decided to reward merit rather than seniority by promoting a 12-year-old to the rank of general.
He is a ginger, so no soul to hold him back.
Carrot Top?
Thank you. I came here to say exactly this.
That fucking beard was... problematic. He is ten times more attractive without it.
#freetheface
Whaaaaat! No way! I like my men with a little scruff
I think stubble is ideal. I don't like clean-shaven myself, so rest assured that's not what I meant.
But I really, really dislike the lumberjack trend.
(Tho it perfectly fit his character)
But I really, really dislike the lumberjack trend.
Hey now, no need to get personal, Rhywun.
Ha I knew you'd chime in on this topic.
In all fairness, I like anything from clean-shaven to a fully, but well-groomed beard depending on the guy wearing it (or not), but the duck dynasty shit needs to go, and glitter-beards, beards with Christmas ornaments in them, etc are just upsetting.
My wife got me a new beard-trimmer for Christmas. Apparently, the numbers are not universal between manufacturers. A 4 used to be full but groomed on the old one, on the new one, its like 2nd day shadow. I look like a goddam gigolo.
Yeah. I've had a bit of difficulty with how aggressive my new beard trimmer is. Right before leaving town for New Years I went to clean up the stray mad scientist eyebrows that I inherited from my very Scottish grandfather. The guard was much softer than the old trimmer and even though I cautiously used a longer setting I ended up without eyebrows. They're just starting to look normal now.
You should go full Ziggy Stardust.
I think stubble is ideal. I don't like clean-shaven myself, so rest assured that's not what I meant.
Speaking for myself, I've reached that age where I keep stubble around because clean-shaven begins to look like and old lesbian.
In fairness to these idiots, I don't solely hate Pete Seeger because his music is terrible.
I only like one Pete Seeger song, and only when Leo Kottke does it (Living in the Country).
Anybody who bases their opinions of actors based on whether or not they subscribe to the same political ideology is so fucking stupid that I find it hard they would have enough brain capacity to keep their involuntary bodily functions operating.
I think Maaaaatt Daaaaamon is a blithering idiot and a lefty toolbag, but I still somehow managed to enjoy the Bourne movies. I'm glad to hear that the initial reports of hordes of progtards losing their shit over this are probably exaggerated. I can't really afford to lose much more faith in humanity.
*hard to believe*
Shit, I hate it when I leave out entire words.
This does seem to ba common theme. Take a few tweets and paint them as representative of group X.
There's so many tweets that are virtually anonymous that somebody is outraged about something all the time but probably doesn't meet the threshold of representative of anything.
BTW, with Finn being black the issue I had heard about was that the empire had always been modeled after NAZIs (pretty obvious), and basically all white men. While that sort of tacky godwinning should probably be put to pasture it was inconsistent with what people expected.
In the books, they make a pretty big deal of Darth Sidious being a racist.
Specifically, in the Hand of Thrawn trilogy, everyone makes a big deal about the blue guy with red eyes being a Grand Admiral despite not being human.
There are really, really stupid people out there.
But it would be cool if Isaac is a libertarian. The guy's got incredible range and will probably be one of the biggest stars over the next decade, and Kurt Russell only has so many more years left.
In to say I loved him in A Most Violent Year before everyone starts liking A Most Violent Year and damages my hipster cred!
I also liked it, and not just because of my burning lust for Jessica Chastain.
Burning when you lust is a sign of something more serious, brah
I've still not seen that, but I did see Inside Llewyn Davis, so there! Apparently he does a lot of great, subtle things in A Most Violent Year, and makes his turn as the energetic bro character in Ex Machina more impressive.
I loved his character in Ex Machina. I also just loved the movie, as well. So maybe I just love too much.
'Sup?
Too late, I see now the dangers of my free-loving tendencies.
This heart was made to be broken.
Kali-Ma!
/grabs CJ's heart
I now see the danger of my broken heart
I was so glad the movie never went off the deep end. I kept expecting there to be some stupid twist, but everything that happens is pretty straightforward and exactly what you should expect from the setup. A good, old-fashioned sci-fi story.
Yes, exactly. I was impressed at what a good story they told with a very minimal cast and set
"A Most Violent Year" was fantastic.
It's about a man of moral integrity defending his business against fraud and theft.
That movie was actually my introduction to Isaac. After I saw it, the thought crossed my mind that Ayn Rand would have liked it. It was engaging, exciting, pro-business, pro-integrity, pro-wealth, pro-self-reliance, pro-pride. A rarity in Hollywood.
Then I saw him in Star Wars, and he was definitely my favorite character in the whole movie.
And now this. I really like this guy. I hope he doesn't do or say something to appease the haters.
Ah, it looks like it is still on Amazon Prime. Excellent. I think I'll watch it this weekend, before (finally) seeing Episode VII.
Okay, but you're the last person allowed to watch it. I can't let it go mainstream.
I saw it. sooooooo.........
His range is pretty impressive. Compare Dameron Poe with Llewyn Davis, that's a pretty decent stretch.
Do we even know for sure that the shirt says, "Atlas Shrugged"? All I can make out is L-A-S and G-G-E-D. That could be anything. "SHMATLAS SHMRUGGED" "DALLAS TUGGED" "FATLAS BUGGED" Who knows?
"DALLAS TUGGED"
Sequel to Debbie Does Dallas?
LegoLAS baGGED
bieber?
On the first word, I've only got H-I-T-L-E-R-L-A-S.
(trying to care, and failing)
THERE IS NO "TRY"
Given the general IQ levels in Hollywood, I'd be skeptical that this guy even knows what "Atlas Shrugged" refers to. He probably just thought it was a cool design, brah.
Uh, he built his own (hot) robot. I think he passes the IQ test.
But did the hot robot pass the Turing test, I ask you?
BEEP BOOP
Good enough for me...
The faggots complaining probably don't know either
In my vast collection of t-shirts are many which were given to me. Not all of them accurately reflect my philosophical outlook.
I suspect there are lots and lots of free promotional shirts available to members of the guild.
Are you saying that you wear your Che Hitler t-shirt ironically?
I am getting old. Get off of my fuckin' lawn.
I haven't seen any of the movies y'all talk about and have no idea who the actors these days are. James Caan and Thief, I know that one. The rest is just arglebargle to me.
Maybe I should get out more, other than the woods.
Nah, fuck it. I am going deer hunting.
*grabs Winchester and boots*
Speculation: Maybe he got/wore that shirt on the set of Agora. That film has a plausible 1 degree of separation from Atlas Shrugged.
In the final climactic battle they use a half-dozen X-wings to attack the 'thermal oscillator' (Star Trek called - they want their bullshit back).
The same half-dozen X-wings they've used throughout the movie. Apparently the 'Rebellion' has no other fighters. Or 'Y'-wings - which are actually DEDICATED ATTACK CRAFT.
In the final climactic battle they use a half-dozen X-wings to attack the 'thermal oscillator' (Star Trek called - they want their bullshit back).
If you ever turn an exhaust port of and then on, it becomes a thermal oscillator... THE WHOLE FUCKING MOVIE WAS LIFTED DIRECTLY FROM EPISODES 4, 5, AND 6 AND HAS TO BE SOME OF THE MOST UNORIGINAL FILM-MAKING IN THE LAST HALF-CENTURY.
All of which makes it better than any part of Episodes 1, 2, and 3.
i thought it was basically a cover of episode four. pretty much the same story. but I think that was the point
Matter of fact, for being titled Star *Wars* the tactics and strategies are consistently horrible. About the only shrewd tactics and strategy are displayed by Palpatine and everything about those movies sucked.
Blockades aren't blockades. Overwhelming and oppressive forces are seldom overwhelming even when their opponents are smaller in both number, size, and technical advancement. Highly trained and rigorously bred, selected, and conditioned soldiers, superior to any/all droids, are horrible shots and defect routinely enough to require testing. Ultimate weapons are consistently susceptible to the same attacks from the same vehicles... etc., etc.
But, then again, actual space battle would be abstract and boring. It'd be like Castaway or The Martian except neither side ever actually sees one another.
Read here for more details:
http://blogtarkin.com/2012/07/.....ay-of-war/
Remember the handful of Twitter racists upset over Finn being black?
Wait a second... I have a couple of knowledgeable star wars geeks in my midst and as I understand it, the question was about how a Clone could be black? Were these twitter racists asking that question?
... Finn isn't a clone. He was taken from his family as an infant.
Not all stormtroopers are clones.
That's what I thought, but I'm not even capable enough to understand these nuances so I just shrugged.
I see what you did there.
But then again, it's still not entirely clear that there even is any outrage, or whether it's phony outrage media outlets are playing up in blog posts just for page views (like this one!).
Major newspapers now use a handful of twitter posts to gauge the mood of the country on a particular topic. It's the new reality.
I didn't like Drive at all but I love The Driver directed by Walter Hill. Thief is cool, too.
Metallica pointed out 20 or so years ago that the empty can rattles the most.
Are we in an era of more empty cans, or has technology let us hear more of them rattle?
All those years the left and media railed about McCarthyism and black lists.
When I was a kid, I thought they were in favor of free speech and freedom of expression.
Whoops, turns out, they just loved commies.