Trump's Supporters Okay with Him Going Third Party, World Leaders Condemn Him, Is He Voldemort? P.M. Links

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Todd Kranin Most of Donald Trump's supporters say they would still back him if he left the Republican Party and ran as an Independent.
- World leaders, meanwhile, have condemned him.
- Is Trump worse than Voldemort? J.K. Rowling thinks so, although she is definitely wrong. Voldemort murdered children!
- Students at the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign presumed a weird sculpture was a racist bias incident. They were wrong.
- BuzzFeed News claims that there is a "sad, strange feud" between Ron and Rand Paul, though the evidence presented is scarce.
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Most of Donald Trump's supporters say they would still back him if he left the Republican Party and ran as an Independent.
Uuuuuuuuuuuuge tent.
Buenos d?as.
Also classy, top-quality, and erected on land taken by eminent domain.
yesterday's post was 1049+...damn
I think it may have enough gravity to pull Viking Moose from his exile.
Of course the derp level is repelling force at those concentrations. We are talking relativistic calculations on the derp density.
I miss Mr. Moose.
I think he is still there...checking in, posting wistfully about his lake.
I thought that thread finally got put down.
Hello.
If the Presidential election is Trump-Clinton, I'm hoping that one of the donation levels for the Reason Web-a-Thon 2016 is cyanide.
Or a business class ticket to Somalia.
If it's Trump v. Clinton I'll be begging Peter Thiel for a spot on the libertarian island he's cooking up.
Trump-Clinton-Rubio, son. Team Clinton already pulled this stunt before. Hell, his name is Trump, the author isn't being subtle here.
Consider the two definitions, both of which apply:
Trump: (in bridge, whist, and similar card games) a playing card of the suit chosen to rank above the others, which can win a trick where a card of a different suit has been led.
Trump: a valuable resource that may be used, especially as a surprise, in order to gain an advantage.
Ya know, the last calculation i heard was 50 million (about 4 years ago) for 50 state ballot access in one cycle. Easy if Trump wants to spend it.
World leaders, meanwhile, have condemned him.
They're foreigners, what do they know.
These would be the same world leaders that fawned over Obama right? Might it even include some of the folks that thought he deserved a noble peace prize merely for getting elected?
If Trump's whole motivation is to draw attention to himself, he sure pulled it off like never before. Global scale attention.
"I was going to vote for Trump, but changed my mind once Manuel Valls denounced him," is probably said less often than,"Ladies, please stop sucking my dick."
Next you're going to tell me the UN is ineffective.
+1
Or: "Please stop telling me how beautiful I am."
Is Trump worse than Voldemort? J.K. Rowling thinks so, although she is definitely wrong. Voldemort murdered children!
We don't know that Trump hasn't murdered children.
And we do know that he would. It's apparently a perk of the office he's seeking.
Seriously, who still believes he is running for President? He is there to bring eternal shame upon the GOP brand and ensure that no matter how bad Hillary is, the Republican gets worse press.
+1 huuuuge bonus for the right answer db
They're called the stupid party for good reason.
Give Voldemort his Nobel Peace Prize.
He would have bragged about it by now.
Actually, my daughter hates Umbridge waaay more than she hates Voldemort. A point that makes me quite proud, actually.
(for those who don't know the books, Umbridge = soulless, sadistic bureaucrat who takes over the school in Book 5)
Yeah, Umbridge is worse.
I think 5 was my favorite book. Rowling nailed the banality-of-evil thing with Umbridge and the students just decide to say "fuck it, the rules are unjust and we will not obey".
Five is my favorite, too - the skewering of government meddling in education + the completely realistic government response to Voldemort's return (utter denial) is priceless.
There's a great moment in six, though, where Harry all but tells Scrimgeour point-blank to fuck off, the Ministry can Go To Hell, thank you very much. I almost wept while reading it aloud to the little one.
Also, Snape kills Dumbledore.
It's time to ban all Slytherin from coming here.
Nobody needs a wand designed to perform a Cruciatus Curse.
I want Darth Vader's theme song to play when I enter a room.
I've thought that same thing often:)
Relevant fact about Umbridge: She's a cat lover. It's a sign.
Did Voldemort ever actually murder any children? He killed Cedric, but wasn't he of age? What child did he successfully kill?
He tried to kill Harry with the Avada Kedavra but it failed.
Avada Kedavra
I want to reach out and grab ya
/Steve Miller & Voldemort Band
*Swiss Servator and the Narrowed Gaze*
Moaning Myrtle.
Beat me to it.
He also tortured some kids in a cave when he was a teenager.
Umbridge is still worse, though.
Well, he virtually murdered them. Or maybe literally.
Voldemort murdered children!
SPOILER ALERT
NED STARK IS DEAD!
Maude Flanders is dead.
Stupid Flanders
Stupid Sexy Flanders
MGTOWs are the saddest motherfuckers on the planet.
"HIGHLIGHTS of my first and only relationshit (story time)"
"She has never been into sex (maybe only with me), made me wait for it for weeks even from the beginning ? I was looking forward to weekends since we both lived at home that time, and I was home alone for weekends. After first sex I was inviting her on Fridays and Saturdays to come and spent the night since I had the whole house for myslef? she has almost always rejected even when I have invited her one day in advance? she rejected me for friends, for having drinks with them, going out partying with them, having something more important/else to do, .. she had excusses ? you name it! She even said it once she wont come because she is visiting her grandparents who are living 5 min away from her home, and because she had to wash a dog? The whole time she wanted my time, attention, kissing and holding hands, inviting me on family/friends bday parties talking about what we are going to do months from now etc? everything EXCEPT SEX!"
"That night she was insisting to come home with me. I said I do not really care but you can come if you want to? She did. We were lying in my bed and I did not make a move because I didn't want to even tho we havent had sex for a whole months and remember that was 6 months into relationship! I put on 'django unchained' and she said she doenst like it even tho we just started wathcing it. I said I can put on another movie and she said 'no'. I told her she doesn't know what she wants, and she replied ' I know what I want', she rolled over so she was showing me her back and pretended she is sleeping. I grabbed her boobs from behind and made a move. Guess what? That was the night she was the most wet down there (looking back on entire time we were togerther). Me subtle rejecting her and acting I do not care about her anymore and don't need sex ? that turned her on ? the fact I did not desire her and no longer inviting her to spent the night with me for the last couple of weekends was more of an aphrodisiac then me being nice and good to her the whole time? after that she was inviting herself, was asking me when she can come again etc.. a complete 180 turn! All i need to do is show her that she is expandable?
I have so much more interesting/fucked up stories to share but will write them only if you show interest?"
I have something that's expandable too.
blowup dolls don't count.
You know what I'm talking about. Check your inbox.
What the heck are you spending time reading?
I just discovered a website of "Men Going Their Own Way" in which men are totally like "we don't need no women!" but nonetheless spend hours every day talking about women just to prove how much they don't need those bitches.
I enjoy laughing at it more than is healthy.
Japanese sex robots don't choose dogs over dick!
Women who are sincerely interested in the men they're seeing don't either.
Pass.
Why? It's the only thing worth reading at the dentist's office.
Not enough pictures.
/You really got me laughing on that, RBS. Kudos for catching it.
Your real name is Goofus?
"Your girlfriend maybe a lesbian if.."
Guy sounds like a real winner.
"The next day i called her to make it sure and she said ' You know I'd put you in my bed but my sister brought her dog to watch it over and dog can only sleep in my room otherwise it barks around the house.' REALLY!? So I asked 'Did you just rejected me for the dog??' She said 'no, come on?'
I did not like the dog because it wasnt civilized ? it was always barking and jumping when people come and i just hate it. She knew it. She threated that dog like a person ? like a human being.. and it was more important then me. But thats normal if you asked her. Dog is like a baby to her, and its not even hers. When I called her out on her BS later, she said she did not want to stand between ME and her sister's dog. Really? so me and the dog are about the same level?? No, the dog was actually more important. And mind you, that was after 6 weeks of ZERO sex and after I just made some effort for anniversary! I was so angry at her that i was punching the door after phone call ended. She rejected me twice after 6 weeks without sex and for what? To have a drink with a friend and for the dog. To feel like an even bigger fool, she ended conversation with the question if im gonna drop by to se her anyway. I said i ll see. After couple of hours i texted her ? im going to have a beer with my friends, when you realize that you rather have a bf in your bed then a dog let me know? Beta mangina in me called her the next day?"
She thinks Orange is the New Black is pornography?
Well, if he has mastered sex like he has mastered writing...
Day 8: How Star Wars Helped Create President Reagan
Alright, then.
No more Star Wars posts. I mean it.
By "no more", you mean "ten more", right?
We should go see Star Wars together
We'll do a Google Hangout. The theaters won't mind.
Anyone want a tatooine peanut?
The surest way to get more SW posts is to demand none of it.
This Canuck knows the way of the Force.
Not comply I will.
Sigh, why say shit that wiki search proves wrong in three seconds?
"There's a bear in the woods" and "Morning in America" were both from 1984, and I even I know that, being neither American nor even a teen at the time.
Otherwise, interesting article about Star Wars marred by trying to fit it into party politics, because Gawker, I guess.
Well, if it's art, then I can interpret it any way I want, and I interpret it as RACIST.
In fact, it looks like a Klan orgy gone terribly awry.
But against which race? It reminds me of Little Big Man.
"The creation of "a critical race program at Harvard Law School ? for students who are interested in challenging elite institutions"
Elite institutions.... so not Harvard?
Let me know when we have have achieved race supercriticality.
Meanwhile, our Obama the Lesser has decided that, with Global Warming being unstoppable, Canada needs to become a banana republic fake-monarchy.
Liberals ask 33 Harper appointees to step aside 'voluntarily'
So, as is the custom up here, former Prime Minister appointed a bunch of cronies to various governmental boards, that being his prerogative. Liberals don't like that, and want to change the rules for how people are appointed to an open, merit-based appointments system for Governor in Council appointees with greater access to all Canadians properly organized system where, if accidentally a Yokel from West gets elected PM again, all the appointments will still be in hands of Right-Thinking People.
So far, shitty but at least with semblance of Rule of Law. But that is not enough for our Shining Star. They are now asking nicely that appointees resign, and can reapply. If they don't resign? Well, I'm sure it's purely voluntary.
The comments are appallingly shocking in their ignorance and cheering of team red. Sickening.
Lord how I loathe that side.
If Rowling had any grasp on her own characters, she would see that Trump is clearly more like Dolores Umbridge, who I always hated more than Voldemort. Also, she really needs to take her billions of dollars and just go away.
I see Trump as more of a Rufus Scrimgeour, but maybe I'm being too nit-picky.
Gilderoy Lockhart.
Psssh.
Now that's just cold.
Nah, that's Bill Clinton through and through.
Professor Horace Slughorn, you were saying? I quite agree.
Goyle.
15 things I learnt about Islam and British values being a gay boy living opposite a mosque.
Commentariat trigger warning: the author likes, respects, and finds common humanity with his Muslim neighbors.
SF'd the link.
Here's a tiny URL: http://tinyurl.com/jdo2x74
Easily one of the most bizarre things I've read. And I'm a weird guy.
"Mothers will say anything to stop their kids nagging them. I once saw a Muslim mother tell her kid that wanted some fried chicken, after Friday night prayers, that the shop wasn't halal even though there was a 5ft sq neon halal sign in the window. Reminds me of when my mum told me that the chip shop was closed for a private event as she wanted some peace."
?
British people are weird. It's hard to pick up on at first, but the more you get to know them, the weirder they are.
But do they return the sentiment.
Yes!
When finding out you have been dating your boyfriend for 5 years your muslim neighbours will be disgusted that you haven't proposed. You hear "get a civil partnership???for your mothers sake" a lot.
This one made me laugh.
11. Young muslim women are really, really, really ambitious
You know what other ambitious young Muslim woman came to America wanting to leave her mark...?
Shohreh Aghdashloo?
Huma Abedin?
Trigger warning: old stuff from my queue
Remember The Parachuting Beavers Story? Now There's Video!
Japan's G7 City Abandons 'Sexist' Manga Character as Official Mascot
WHAT ARE THEY DOING TO MY WAIFU?
I have looked it up repeatedly and still do not understand this waifu business. Is this like Irish's MGTOW thing?
Waifu isn't like MGOTW. MGOTW is pathetic, waifu is just sad. Basically people who form emotional/physical attachment to a fictional character. Most prominently with anime/manga characters.
So... the Krieger thing wasn't an outlandish parody.
Krieger is kind of the opposite, because he designed the waifu for himself, but never really married her (the cad).
But MGTOW's strike me as the kind of people who would be really into Waifu.
For those not in the know, Here are some waifu loving gentlemen.
Plus those guys have terrible taste!
(especially the second one. Damn railgun.)
Your favorite female* anime/manga character, and possibly -- hopefully ironically, but sadly sometimes not -- your imaginary anime/manga girlfriend.
*Or transwoman
Needs moar pixelation
Her eyes are as large as her boobs!
Parachuting Beavers?
Makes me think of an old (bad) Army joke.
Why do female paratroopers jump with their legs crossed?
So they don't whistle when they're coming in.
Trump Perot. Stalking horse for the Clintons. I called it way back when and I may even be right.
I got there first months and months ago. See also, above.
Yeah, I think we all called it soon after he announced.
J.K. Rowling is a foreigner. Her opinion doesnt mean shit here in the USA. And screw the opinions of the rest of the foreigners too. Its about time this country worried about itself.
Not that I agree with all things Trump. But are we seriously concerned about the opinions of a foreign novelist when discussing our potential next president? WTF?
It's an anything that sticks type of fight. Pundits don't want to give fair hearing to the one thing that might cut Trump off at the knees, so they've resorted to throwing everything at the wall in a hope to convince people to stop supporting him.
And screw the opinions of the rest of the foreigners too
The Founders, what a bunch of douche bags, amirite?
Don't even get me started on that Lafayette SOB or that Thomas Paine cuckservative.
Would you like to know what the foreigners think about your mass shootings, too? I can try and remember by Derpbook password so I could share the cavalcade of equally reasoned opinions on how Americans should do gun control.
Yeah, if you have a reason a foreigner is wrong that's one thing, but rejecting their opinions BECAUSE THEY'RE FOREIGNERS is ridiculous.
You know who else was a Brit with some thoughts on what Americans should do?
Mr. Hilter of the National Bocialist Party?
Mein Dickie old chum.
That guy who took over for Larry King?
George III
Edmund Burke?
Not quite the answer I had in mind. It's common sense, really.
Chevy Chase is British?
High Chancellor Adam Sutler?
John Lennon?
Thomas Fowler?
You guys are for real? You're the world's greatest and mightiest nation (defender of Western civilization I might add) and you don't expect people to have opinions?
Talk about being parochial!
Get used to it because everyone has one.
I'd be, moreover, honored that the USA matters and means so much to people the world over.
I assume that the problem those opinions are based in ignorance.
Most Americans will admit they know little about other countries. But most other countries will claim they know everything about US because...they watch American sitcoms? Their state-provided foreign correspondents give them accurate picture of the continent-sized country?
So yeah, Americans should understand other people have opinions about their country, but should also tell other people to fuck off when it comes to US internal politics.
During the Bush v. Kerry election (I think) the Guardian asked its readers to send letters to Americans in swing states pleading with them to vote Kerry. The letters Americans wrote back were precious and vile. The substance was basically fuck off and mind your own business, and, also, get your hellish teeth fixed.
Hi-larious.
I happened to be in London for Bush v. Gore, and watching the BBC report on it was surreal.
They really thought the other shoe was dropping on global superpowers - they were reporting it as straight up "the USSR went down in '92, and now here goes the US - we all knew it was coming! What will a post-US world look like?" and such.
We then changed the channel to another where they were televising a bunch of English hicks rolling balls of cheese down a hill.
It was then that I started scoffing at people who think the quality of the BBC is so much better than American programming.
Your opinion matters Rufus, except for poutine.
I don't give a shit what most foreigners think. I also don't give a shit what most Americans think. And I see no good reason to value the opinion of my fellow citizens over anyone else.
FWIW, I don't think anyone here gives a crap what JK ROwling thinks about Donald Trump..
I actually do like Rowling, but yeah - if anything it goes the other direction. Her opinion on Trump might impact my opinion of her, but not vice-versa.
Who is this JK Rowling?
Hitler?
Ooh Please! Let Trump go third party, and let him take his supporters with him. Good riddance. The Republicans will ultimately gain more in respect and legitimacy without them. Purge the nativists and racists and let them gradually consign themselves c to third party oblivion.
Trump appears to have unearthed what my liberal relations have all along said. That a significant part of the Republican party is a bunch of racist troglodytes, and the right never accepts openly that they rely on these people, but dog whistle to them every election. Trump has, perhaps, brought them into the daylight. But I say appears because it may be a protest type vote for many. Damn effective protest at this point.
Yeah, I grew weary of hearing that same line from my liberal friends. Coming from a conservative background, I couldn't see it. None of my family/friends would ever go for this sort of stuff. Now I am seriously re-evaluating that perspective.
I think a little bit is the protest point. I also see a lot of people disavowing Trump's more extreme points but defending him all the same with standard TEAM RED rhetoric. I think there is a good core of racists and bigots and more people who have been defending the right so long that they reflexively give Trump the benefit of the doubt until he makes them look real bad- as he is doing now.
I think there's something to this. The mouth-frothing white-nationalist vote is still out there, but it is shrinking to the point where the Republican establishment is starting to try to shed it rather than wink-wink, nudge-nudging them into the back of the tent.
This means the white-nationalists see their that their time is coming to either put up or shut up, and Trump is giving them a lightning rod. I don't even think he's doing it intentionally - he just says whatever keeps him in the headlines, but he's rallying these people behind him by doing so.
What may wind up happening is something like the break-up of the Whig party, where the "nativists" followed Fillmore into a failed single-issue party while the rest of the Whigs embraced Abolitionism and became Republican - i.e. Trump may well inadvertently siphon the racist vote out of the Republican Party, and the party will be better for it.
I think it was about 30 years ago that Republican leadership came out in full force against the Republican nominee when idiot voters in Louisiana (D crossovers as well as R) nominated Klan Wizard David Duke. Even the Louisiana Republicans were none to happy to have Duke for their nominee, and all that knew crossed over to vote for Democrat Edwin Edwards, knowing full well that he was a crook.
For every actual white nationalist vote there's at least a hundred genteel racist votes, at least here in the South. Those people think that Trump is a bit extreme and bombastic, but are positively salivating that someone, finally, has the courage to say the things they wish they could say publicly.
Oblivion...
From 2017. U.S. President Trump meets on Monday with French President Le Pen to discuss the crisis in the Middle East.
I was going to ask if Hollande had been assassinated, but apparently French Presidents now serve five years instead of seven.
Marion Le Pen. Would would would.
Reading about her, I understand she is significantly more free market oriented than Marine.
Without looking more into it, I'll just say that's not exactly a high achievement.
Seriously, Marine is downright Atlee-like in her policies, but somehow she's 'far-right extremist'!
Well, we're nearly 40 posts into this thread, and the word "racist" has only been used 3 times, and "fascist" not at all. You people need to step it up, or I'm going to have to ask you to get into the oven.
9/10 USDA grade-A trolling
But not organic
Mayo Cunt Lick Clinic.
E. Coli not enough for you guys? How about some Norovirus?
Anyone remember Chi-Chi's?
Yeah, I thought not.
They still sell their salsa which actually isn't bad.
*blocked*
+1
I don't buy it. I buy Frog Ranch out of Athens if I'm not making it myself. But it isn't bad.
Chi Chi LaRue?
Had to look him up. I don't get drag. But there are a lot of things i don't get.
How about a nice bowl of Bon Vivant Vichyssoise?
Extra botulinum, please.
Would there were a way to forget.
I can't forget their bizarre tv commercials, which ended with a 'mexican dressed' lady with a blank stare to the camera, mumbling in monotone, "how long since you've eaten, at Chi-Chis." It made it seem like Chi-Chis was the official restaurant of the zombie apocalypse.
Well for one thing their "hot" food is not kept at temperature at all. Not even close. i don't need a thermometer to tell me that.
80 bearded hipsters?
Hey, Pl?ya, keep it down! I can hear your laughter all the way out here in IL...
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/s.....8-12-41-56
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/l.....muslim-ban
Fucking pants wetting fascist or libertarian moment?
You're loving this aren't you, Robby?
Yes.
Way to troll the commentariat.
Good job sir.
The Donald ain't getting Jeff Bezo's vote:
"Jeff Bezos suggests sending Donald Trump into space"
[...]
""The @washingtonpost loses money (a deduction) and gives owner @JeffBezos power to screw public on low taxation of @Amazon! Big tax shelter," he continued. "If @amazon ever had to pay fair taxes, its stock would crash and it would crumble like a paper bag. The @washingtonpost scam is saving it!"
http://www.sfgate.com/technolo.....682510.php
So the Donald is every bit conversant regarding finance and Bernie?
How is it even possible that an independent company's losses can be used to offset the taxes of a totally different company? It isn't like Bezos gets any of the profits/losses from either. That's the point of a corporation.
Man, I do not want 5 more years of Trump.
I would not be surprised to find a shrine to Loki or Coyote in Trump's house.
Some people just want to watch the world burn.
If there's a shrine in his house, it's to himself. And we all know how big it is.
Uuuuuuuuuuuuuuge?
I have been overwhelmed by the astounding amount of nerdiness in this thread. I have blocked all of you, even the cool kids.
Am I one of the cool kids? I understand I'm blocked regardless, but I'm just fishing for a compliment.
Goodness no.
I'll fucking kill you
*figuratively ?
subpoena'd
Would
*unblocks trshmnstr*
FYI: cock-blocking is different from just regular blocking.
A Pimp's love is different from a square's love etc.
Excuse me, I did not realize I was interrupting a budding romance.
It's not just romance, it's love!
Foreign Policy Worse than Jimmy Carter. Trump = Reagan. I'm starting to see echoes of that.
Oh?Bummer! had the theory "if we just be nice" - just like Carter.
Obama's Bad Relationship With The Military
From up thread:
Reagan's "Morning in America" campaign
Rumor has it there a webathon around here somewhere. Anyone know where I might donate right the hell now?
I donated but the damn sign still comes up like I didn't. Who do I talk to about this? Heads will roll!
Here's the full list currently rotating in the banner:
https://reason.com/ajax/donornames
Curious. My name was there a few days ago but it's gone now.
For Playa:
More than 80 BC students ill after eating at Chipotle in Brighton
Obviously I should have checked upthread.
Yeah, but it can't be said enough.
Again, shit like this never happened before they banned GMOs. Coincidence? I think not.
He who would pun would pick a pocket...
I had lunch at Chipotle yesterday.
I knew I should've gone to Pei Wei instead. It's right next door, and their Thai Dynamite chicken is good.
Stop eating there. In addition to having poor taste, you're hurting my bottom line.
I've been withholding my donation until i see a poll about how millenials feel about it. Plus, I think maybe more coverage of this Trump fellow is needed.
Is ISIS's version of Islam causing disillusioned youth in Kurdistan to become Zoroastrians?
Those kiddies are in for a rude awakening when they enter the real world.
It's like Thunderdome with lasers
I think it's that show where Baron Harkonnen chases the Doctor and his companion all over the Delta Quadrant.
It's a nudie bar with orion slave chicks that Kirk likes to hang out in.
I thought it was the one with that hot invisible blonde chick named Blast van der Huge.
Heard he's a Browns fan
Abe Vigoda still alive and kicking!
He took a walk on the other side...
Are you talking about James T. or James R?
Is this an Oxycodone? I remember the last time you fooled me like that. Barely.
Tiberius