Via The Wall Street Journal comes this account from the Ottawa Sun about the University of Ottawa killing a free on-campus yoga class.
The reason?
Staff at the Centre for Students with Disabilities believe that "while yoga is a really great idea and accessible and great for students … there are cultural issues of implication involved in the practice," according to an email from the centre….
The centre goes on to say, "Yoga has been under a lot of controversy lately due to how it is being practiced," and which cultures those practices "are being taken from."
The centre official argues since many of those cultures "have experienced oppression, cultural genocide and diasporas due to colonialism and western supremacy … we need to be mindful of this and how we express ourselves while practising yoga."
The teacher of the class, which had about 60 students, had this to say:
[Jennifer] Scharf, a yoga teacher with the downtown Rama Lotus Centre, said the concept does not apply in this case, arguing the complaint that killed the program came instead from a "social justice warrior" with "fainting heart ideologies" in search of a cause celebre.
"People are just looking for a reason to be offended by anything they can find," said Scharf.
"There's a real divide between reasonable people and those people just looking to jump on a bandwagon. And unfortunately, it ends up with good people getting punished for doing good things."…
"I'm not pretending to be some enlightened yogi master, and the point (of the program) isn't to educate people on the finer points of the ancient yogi scripture," she told the Sun.
It's not fully clear what triggered the ending of the weekly class, which Scharf has taught since 2008. Scharf suggested calling the class "mindful stretching" instead but, reports the Sun, "student leaders stumbled over how the French translation for 'mindful stretching' would appear on a promotional poster, and eventually decided to suspend the program."
It's less that the offended students are wrong that yoga has been appropriated by Westerners than the meaing of that action. What yoga "means" today is certainly different that what it meant every 25 or 30 years ago on college campuses (when it was less about exercise and more about inner peace, if my experience is any guide). Or further back, when it was only practiced by a few people immersed in eastern cultures and mysticism. How yoga is practiced is also constantly changing, too. Just ask Bikram Choudhury, who pioneered a new system and recently lost a legal battle in which he tried to copyright his sequence of poses. Anti-appropriation viewpoints depend not only a static view of what culture is but who audiences are. It is quite possibly the most constipated way to understand how individuals create meaning, community, and culture.
At one time, such critiques were leveled against truly offensive art — work that trafficked in demeaning caricatures, such as blackface, 19th-century minstrel shows or ethnological expositions, which literally put indigenous people on display, often in cages. But these accusations have become a common attack against any artist or artwork that incorporates ideas from another culture, no matter how thoughtfully or positively. A work can reinvent the material or even serve as a tribute, but no matter. If artists dabble outside their own cultural experiences, they've committed a creative sin.
To take just a few recent examples: After the 2013 American Music Awards, Katy Perry was criticized for dressing like a geisha while performing her hit single "Unconditionally." Last year, Arab-American writer Randa Jarrar accused Caucasian women who practice belly dancing of "white appropriation of Eastern dance." Daily Beast entertainment writer Amy Zimmerman wrote that pop star Iggy Azalea perpetrated "cultural crimes" by imitating African American rap styles.
Young, who hails from the old Soviet Union, knows a thing or two about cultural appropriation and its discontents. Indeed, the commissars of her native land cracked down on all sorts of refuseniks who appropriated elements of American jazz, rock and roll, and hippie culture. And she is not sloughing over the ways in which dominant cultures fetishize "native" or "primitive" cultures, even as she notes that such appropriations typically go in multiple directions.
Appropriation is not a crime. It's a way to breathe new life into culture. Peoples have borrowed, adopted, taken, infiltrated and reinvented from time immemorial. The medieval Japanese absorbed major elements of Chinese and Korean civilizations, while the cultural practices of modern-day Japan include such Western borrowings as a secularized and reinvented Christmas. Russian culture with its Slavic roots is also the product of Greek, Nordic, Tatar and Mongol influences — and the rapid Westernization of the elites in the 18th century. America is the ultimate blended culture.
Cambodia's prime minister ordered tanks to raze the country's karaoke parlors. Last fall, Iran announced a new campaign against Western pop music and other "signs and symbols of depravity." And only last summer, the Central Asian Republic of Kazakhstan—just a few hundred miles north of Afghanistan—began a crackdown on dangerous "bohemian" lifestyles. The authorities went after a number of familiar outsiders—gays, religious dissidents—but even Westerners were surprised to learn that one targeted group was "Tolkienists." It turns out that there are Kazakh Hobbit wannabes who like to dress up in character costume and re-enact scenes from J.R.R. Tolkien's novels. For their trouble, they were being subjected to sustained water torture.
Hobbit re-enactors in Kazakhstan? Where do they get their paraphernalia? Are there Kazakh Tolkienist fanzines? Have fans started changing Tolkien's narratives to suit themselves, the way Western Star Trek subcultures turned their own obsession into soft-core pornography? Do re-enactors change roles from time to time, or are any of them trapped inside a Frodo persona? Is there no end to the identities waiting to be assumed? No end to what invention makes flesh, before it tosses it aside and starts again?
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It's even more convoluted than that. People are actually saying things that boil down to "Don't culturally appropriate from us what we originally culturally appropriated from you."
Once again, "reality" surpasses what I could write as satire when the committee is sweating how to translate a name they made up into French and decides to bag the whole thing instead.
The SJWs who peddle this nonsense out of one side of their mouths will spew out of the other side of their mouths that Americans are ignorant of other cultures. How is one supposed to understand and appreciate another culture if one is forbidden to experience it?
The important thing is that you reject cultures that have in their history; icky white men. Beyond that, you need only posture and signal your approval of literally every other culture in the world while you bemoan the 'rape culture' inherent in gender pronouns.
I'd also add that they're no doubt the ones shouting the loudest that immigration enriches our civilization (which I tend to agree with). How they propose that happens isn't so clear.
David Burge ?@iowahawkblog
Dear rest of the world: if you want to appropriate my culture of hot rods, roots music, booze & girly magazines, be my guest.
This is hilarious, because contemporary yoga was a hodgepodge of cultural appropriation itself (from The New Yorker):
The system that Krishnamacharya created there drew on hatha yoga, as well as traditional Indian wrestling and gymnastics, British Army calisthenics and, according to the scholar Mark Singleton, the Danish educator Niels Bukh's "primitive gymnastics." It included sun salutations and standing postures, such as the triangle pose, that don't appear in any ancient yogic text. In his 2010 book, "Yoga Body: The Origins of Modern Posture Practice," Singleton concludes that Krishnamacharya's method was "a synthesis of several extant methods of physical training that (prior to this period) would have fallen well outside any definition of yoga."
- http://www.newyorker.com/busin.....ntion-yoga
Scharf suggested calling the class "mindful stretching" instead but, reports the Sun, "student leaders stumbled over how the French translation for 'mindful stretching' would appear on a promotional poster, and eventually decided to suspend the program."
This is like the punchline of a joke, and maybe it would have been only a joke 30 years ago.
Indian yoga is snake-handling for lazy people. Americans got rid of the mystical bullshit and gave hot chicks an excuse to wear asspants. God bless America.
Yes. Asspants must function like two hands gently cupping the ass, providing some support, but not enough that it misrepresents the firmness and shape of the ass.
Let me know if you have any questions or concerns in regards to this and I am welcome to explain.
...
Yoga has been under a lot of controversy lately due to how it is being practiced and what practices from what cultures (which are often sacred spiritual practices) they are being taken from
As a field slave, I resent the house negro's better grasp of the white man's culture, but even I found the "being taken from" prepositional phrase as painful as the master's whip.
And in case anyone was wondering, "I am welcome to explain" is not an error that a native French speaker would make by literally translating French into English, so whoever wrote these emails is just a moron.
Was it Charles Cooke who called it a cargo cult of language? Stupid people don't understand what smart people say, so they think if they write in such a way that they don't understand it, they'll be smart.
That person is talking about the implication. Young women may not want to appropriate culture, but what are they gonna do, say no? Of course not, because of the implication.
Plus, relax guy, it's Canada. That's probably how they talk English, buddy.
I wonder how these SJWs can live with themselves when they daily appropriate Hindu numerals which were appropriated by the Arabs. I really want them to stop this, start using their own number system. Roman numerals might be ok, since the Romans conquered so much of Europe and imposed their culture upon their new territories.
Cultural appropriation for sure, if they were honest. Also, genetic appropriation; you know, like blackface. Or black women straighening their hair and dyeing it blonde.
I have heard someone accuse some dreadlocked white dudes in a Reggae band of cultural appropriation (despite the band also including a black Jamaican). Someone who was a white person who practices some Hindu religion.
I read an article not too long ago where a white SJW explained why she was cutting off her dreadlocks (which she personally really digged) because she had a growing realization of how her privilege was insulting marginalized peoples something something blah blah blah...
I think this is it, but there are a number of other articles and YouTube videos if your interested in decending down the rabbit hole of white self-loathing.
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Roman numerals are a perversion of the older tally marks by the influence of Greek numerals, which were in turn simply lifted from the Hebrew system. To avoid an expropriation of implication, one would have to stick to the glyphs I, V, and X, and to employ them only additively, so XXXXXVIIII for 59.
'Cultural appropriation' is just about the most offensive, appalling and grotesque foolish idea rooted in abject ignorance to come from the progressive ranks. Is this nonsense part of 'critical theory'?
I haven't heard the two phrases linked explicitly, but these same sorts of absurdities have long been exposed by critical theory, so if it's not part of critical theory it's just an appropriation of sorts.
I made this comment in the past but when you look at the great epochs and periods in Western history like the Renaissance what do you think they did? They merely 'appropriated' the genius of other places (thanks to the empires of Genoa and Venice who traded the most with the East, mixed it in with Italian savoir faire and presto! You get Venetian architecture that is a mix of everything from Byzantine to Baroque to Arabesque and everything in between nestled in every corners of its piazzas, canals, and bridges.
You get an entirely new idea.
And so it went with all great empires like France and England who borrowed all kinds of crap to make it their own.
The United States is exactly like those places; though Renaissance Italy seems to be a natural comparison. It takes the best the entire planet has to offer to create a unique American experience. To me that's not 'appropriation'. It's genius and is what humans have been doing, like, forever. It's just that now America is the master and leader.
Cultural appropriation is what keeps us alive and kicking bitches!
"There's a real divide between reasonable people and those people just looking to jump on a bandwagon. And unfortunately, it ends up with good people getting punished for doing good things."
In all seriousness - move over, Samuel Johnson and Oscar Wilde, with a very few words appropriate to the occasion this woman has made her point with quiet eloquence.
In addition to whatever else people are saying about this, I'd point out that when you're talking about cultural appropriation, there must be a difference between appropriating someone's manners, dress, music, objects, etc., and appropriating some other culture's ideas.
Yoga and meditation are mostly ideas, and the suggestion that ideas shouldn't be appropriated from other cultures is emphatically racist.
IIRC, "Ottawa" is an Indian name, or as the Canucks put it, a First Nations name.
And don't get me started on Nova Scotia - I mean, New Scotland? They're admitting the cultural appropriation right in their name!
And Raymond Massey, a Canadian, dared play Abraham Lincoln, an American. And Lincoln was appropriating the name "Lincoln" from his ancestors (patriarchal ancestors!) and the name "Abraham" from the Jews.
I was thinking about the "First Nations" usage the other day. And it occurred to me that it is a complete misnomer and completely ignores the fact that the natives of North America have had their own rich history where cultures and civilization rise and fall and interact. They aren't first nations. They are the last pre-European nations.
I also think it's kind of funny how in Canada "Eskimo" appears to be considered highly offensive, but in the US it seems to be acceptable.
This is the main reason I'm not 100% on board with defending this woman. It's pretty clear that *her version of yoga* doesn't count as appropriation, but I get the distinct impression that she's certain white people shouldn't rap or something similarly racist.
Maybe she's just trying to avoid sounding like she endorses British Imperialism, but the use of the term 'fainting heart' vs. 'bleeding heart' seems like a Freudian Slip/portmanteau as well.
Incidentally, for any of you who struggle with depression or anxiety, medication can help mask symptoms, but a lot of people find yoga and mediation genuinely helpful.
Where depression is often about ruminating on the past, and anxiety is often about obsessing about the future, yoga and meditation are about training your mind to focus on the present.
And nothing helps focus your mind on the present quite like the yoga pants of the girl in front of you.
Funny thing is I don't know even one person of Indian heritage here in the U.S. that has ever done or even expressed interest in yoga. And I know a lot of Indian people.
I don't know if anyone has noticed that the anti-"appropriation " sentiment is fundamentally conservative in nature. They are basically suggesting that cultural traditions be preserved within the culture they are from and not changed or mixed. In fact it is almost racist in its concern for ethnic purity. How, for instance could a white woman dating an indian man avoid "appropriation" except by positively refusing to adopt any indian culture ?
It seems to me that the only way to avoid appropriation is to avoid meaningful ethnic c mixing. The whites could not ever really participate in any non- white cultural practices, and the non whites would then be burdened with having to preserve their distinct ethnicity given that the preservation of their traditional cultural practices is now something held to be sacred.
I don't know if anyone has noticed that the anti-"appropriation " sentiment is fundamentally conservative in nature.
We noticed. All of PC is essentially conservative in nature. It's entirely xenophobic and eugenecist by way progressive attitudes. The great irony of progressivism is it initially projects itself as a philosophy of tolerance, and will eventually bumble its way into barring mixed-race marriage or transracial adoption.
A non-insignificant number of progressive friends and acquaintances of mine tend to be obsessed with "purity" and "authenticity".
There seems to be a lot of purity consciousness in progressivism. Consider environmentalism, shopping at Whole Foods, etc..
Purity seems to be a human meme from the beginning. From dietary practices to tribalism groups have religiously practiced it. Liberalism should overcome tribalism by focusing on the merit of the individual. But moder liberalism is just not liberal at all.
"I don't know if anyone has noticed that the anti-"appropriation " sentiment is fundamentally conservative in nature. They are basically suggesting that cultural traditions be preserved within the culture they are from and not changed or mixed."
Yeah, I said that the suggestion that ideas shouldn't be appropriated from other cultures is emphatically racist.
"It's not fully clear what triggered the ending of the weekly class, which Scharf has taught since 2008. Scharf suggested calling the class "mindful stretching'"
OK, fess up Nick = this post was actually a contribution by Thomas Pynchon
The absurdity-level of this shit seems to have passed far beyond the "humor" barrier and now reads like some kind of warning about the impending Apocalyptic collapse of human society...
"What if we don't call it Yoga!?
"Christ, that's worse! Its like admitting it was stolen!"
"Really Bill, ..."Christ"? How ironic. Aren't you an athiest jew or something?"
"Can we just lay off the metaphysical for a minute; if we don't fix this Yoga thing, Jenny's out of a job."
"Couldn't she convert to Hinduism? Or would that not satisfy anyone? I mean, there's got to be a billion of them already."
Also anyone who practices yoga these days, and I am one, can't help being aware that it is not the same shit practiced in India 100 years ago. There are numerous yoga styles that are primarily just exercise and many classes are shameless about mixing in Pilates or other core strengthening exercises.
If anything the remnants of Indian culture, like the 'namaste' at the end just seem silly.
I'm still waiting for some SJW douchenozzle to accuse me of appropriating Korean culture for practicing Tae Kwon-Do. I plan to look them square in the eyes and tell them that while I appear to be a white male, I choose to identify as a Korean and their accusation is a severely othering micro-aggression, just to see how they react.
And if that doesn't shut them up, I'll kick them in head really fucking hard.
The student association's facebook page is trending on Facebook. Whoever runs the page is now replying to every negative comment on the initial announcement with some variation of the phrase "well, we actually cancelled the class because there were zero people enrolled in it this semester," but they're becoming increasingly angrier with each negative comment. "Jeez, this isn't that hard to understand, nobody was enrolled!" They also keep saying "we want to repeat, it wasn't cancelled, just put on hold."
They are, of course, being immediately refuted by people saying they were attending the classes, but why would they let that stop them?
As I said before, no one "owns" a culture. A culture is nothing more than a set if learned achievements that, unless you're the one individual person who registered that achievement in the fist place, you have no particular right to do anything other than thank your lucky stars that someone, probably someone much, much, smarter than you, had the decency to grace your life with. The fact is that some stunning mediocrity has the unmitigated gall to try to claim ownership for those achievements (in the most offensive way possible) based on nothing more than the fact that their ancestors came from the same geographic expanse as the person who actually achieved them. Anyone who actually does achieve something in this world should look at them with utter contempt.
I'll bet money somewhere that the culture appropriation warriors have been eating orange chicken and burritos at taco bells all their lives.
Who seriously gets offended by this? I've eaten dozens of "Asian" food that tastes nothing like real thing. Not that many Asian food involve peanut sauce and sriracha. The Taekwondo center (don't call it a dojo) I used to go to had Taekwondo themed aerobic classes. "Appropriation" sure sounds like deconstruction / reinvention of cultural identity that appeals to a broader audience, which is fine for progressives when it involves gender identities.
Have you seen the Japanese appropriation of "American" food (which is appropriation of other cultures)? They put mayo and squid on their pizzas. Koreans put sweet potato on theirs. Street Fighter has an Indian character who can teleport in Yoga pose and chants "Yoga" as he spits out fireballs. We crossed this appropriation bridge a real long time ago.
So I wonder (without really caring) what the SJW crowd would label my situation. As a non-Asian who has been a resident of Japan for more than a couple decades, in learning their language to fluency/literacy am I being respectful of their culture or am I appropriating their culture by "pretending" to be Japanese?
Lucky for my delicate feelz, when I am in the US (where I am most likely to run into one of these SJW types) I usually carry my portable safe-space device in the form of a 45 ACP 1911.
Tell you what: you take back yoga and we take back computers, antibiotics, anesthetics, automobiles, and app the other stuff non western cultures have appropriated from the west
Rather, I think we are approaching the vertical asymptote at which stupidity will approach infinity at such a rapidly increasing rate that time will actually stop; kind of like when you travel close to the speed of light. Not sure what will happen, but I think we will all turn into goo.
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SJW's are the most racist people since there demands can only lead to segregations and isolationism of cultures, everyone in their own box and no crossing of the lines. Unfortunately what they don't realize is that all this cultural appropriaton is the very same thing that gave them the freedoms, better living, better health and technologies than if they stayed in their own little world. Just look at the remote tribes that have been found in South America they have never moved beyond the ability to just survive. Appropriation and learning of other ways is necessary for societies to move forward to progress. SJW's the new fascism.
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Does the University of Ottawa send sick international students to a witch doctor if they get sick?
Stop appropriating Drake's name. Can you even dance, bro?
Did he sail around the world sinking Spanish ships? I think not.
Ottawa? That is Indian.
I'll no longer use Latin in any of my legal proceedings....unless I Render therefore unto Caesar the things which are Caesar's.
why why did Mlle Scharf not explain that she self-identifies as a pre-Vedic Indian ascetic???
she could be named woman of the year!
guess she's not the scharfest tool in the shed...
And render unto the Greeks that which is Greek.
So I guess this means america is in the clear on slavery since it appears that the practice was appropriated from the mideast/africa.
actually it probably makes it 1000 times worse.
Yes, its about time they put an end to it.
Daily Beast entertainment writer Amy Zimmerman wrote that pop star Iggy Azalea perpetrated "cultural crimes" by imitating African American rap styles.
I agree with this statement. Deport her.
Did we invent writing? I think not - deport Amy Zimmerman too.
What about hot takes, are they still allowed?
Zimmerman should turn in her next article in cuneiform pressed into clay.
^This
Yes, this. I will stoop to the level of SJW nutjobs if it means I'll be free of Iggy Azalea.
Take up any weapon, no matter how ill it fits your hand.
I've never heard of Iggy Azalea.
lol.
Way to flaunt your cultural privilege, asshat.
Her early work.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-cvpKQCnJu8
Would. Not much in the way of musical talent, but still.
Not have I.
But, I-g-g-why, Jordan?
It's even more convoluted than that. People are actually saying things that boil down to "Don't culturally appropriate from us what we originally culturally appropriated from you."
Well what have whites ever done for the world except take from others?
(Don't answer that here, Reason only allows 1500 characters.)
I could just point to the "What have the Romans ever done for us?" scene from Life of Brian.
The aqueduct ?
American Gladiators ?
The crucifix? How would we fight vampires without appropriating Roman culture?
Once again, "reality" surpasses what I could write as satire when the committee is sweating how to translate a name they made up into French and decides to bag the whole thing instead.
?tirage sans fumer
Was that so hard, Ottowa?
The SJWs who peddle this nonsense out of one side of their mouths will spew out of the other side of their mouths that Americans are ignorant of other cultures. How is one supposed to understand and appreciate another culture if one is forbidden to experience it?
You're supposed to praise other cultures unreservedly without knowing anything about them. Knowing things is problematic.
The important thing is that you reject cultures that have in their history; icky white men. Beyond that, you need only posture and signal your approval of literally every other culture in the world while you bemoan the 'rape culture' inherent in gender pronouns.
I bemoan the abuse of semicolons.
That's proper use. Are you trying to out-pedantic Nicole? I'm sorry I used a hyphen just now, is that problematic? I apologize.
Seig Heil,
FS
It's not.
It's "Sieg heil".
German nazi.
Vielen Dank!
Just don't say "hyphen" when you mean "en dash".
"I bemoan the abuse of semicolons."
And the abuse of colons is the appropriation of Greek culture.
Now, Sammy, we are allowed to experience it, but only at a distance and when guided by authentic members of that culture.
I'd also add that they're no doubt the ones shouting the loudest that immigration enriches our civilization (which I tend to agree with). How they propose that happens isn't so clear.
it's times like these i turn to Iowahawk:
David Burge ?@iowahawkblog
Dear rest of the world: if you want to appropriate my culture of hot rods, roots music, booze & girly magazines, be my guest.
Thank you.
This is hilarious, because contemporary yoga was a hodgepodge of cultural appropriation itself (from The New Yorker):
The system that Krishnamacharya created there drew on hatha yoga, as well as traditional Indian wrestling and gymnastics, British Army calisthenics and, according to the scholar Mark Singleton, the Danish educator Niels Bukh's "primitive gymnastics." It included sun salutations and standing postures, such as the triangle pose, that don't appear in any ancient yogic text. In his 2010 book, "Yoga Body: The Origins of Modern Posture Practice," Singleton concludes that Krishnamacharya's method was "a synthesis of several extant methods of physical training that (prior to this period) would have fallen well outside any definition of yoga."
- http://www.newyorker.com/busin.....ntion-yoga
This is a beautiful thing. Thanks.
I did it for you.
Yeah, it's shocking they didn't go with that.
infirme nue ?tirement
That is problematic.
"You're going to get hop-ons."
Again with the appropriation, SF. WTF.
I'm afraid to ask what you think that means.
Nude cripple stretching, the sexiest kind of stretching. Two stumps lightly brush one another. Love filled the air like appropriated incense.
"... which cultures those practices "are being taken from."
One has to be so bone-crushingly stupid that they do not understand what words mean to agree with that idiocy.
Ban the student leader organization as they are appropriating Nazism from German culture.
I'm sorry, "German"? The Germans appropriated that culture from an Austrian.
Next up: Banning Joyce and Yeats because the Irish "appropriated" English from their conquerors.
I find it ironic that people who complain about cultural appropriation air those complaints using the English language.
That's my language!
Ban lingua franca!
cultural issues of implication
fucking French, SPEAK ENGLISH.
This is like the punchline of a joke, and maybe it would have been only a joke 30 years ago.
Actually, the word "mind" originally comes from the Sanskrit "manas," so they are still appropriating.
Indian yoga is snake-handling for lazy people. Americans got rid of the mystical bullshit and gave hot chicks an excuse to wear asspants. God bless America.
[crying eagle]
USA! USA! USA!
Bad link, you all know how to google.
ASS! ASS! ASS! ASS! ASS!
Say, that reminds me... *writes new national anthem*
Are there any pants that aren't asspants? I can (and do) think of assless chap, but that's it.
Yes. Asspants must function like two hands gently cupping the ass, providing some support, but not enough that it misrepresents the firmness and shape of the ass.
Murcia !
The unnamed student leader is, like so many idiots of the same ilk, appropriating English. And badly.
"there are cultural issues of implication involved in the practice"
What is an "issue of implication"? Did you mean to say practicing yoga had implications for people concerned about cultural appropriation?
More quotes from the Washington Post:
Grammar the foundation of the Master's House.
As a field slave, I resent the house negro's better grasp of the white man's culture, but even I found the "being taken from" prepositional phrase as painful as the master's whip.
And in case anyone was wondering, "I am welcome to explain" is not an error that a native French speaker would make by literally translating French into English, so whoever wrote these emails is just a moron.
A multi-lingual grammar Nazi - there is no such thing as peak worst.
It is known.
Nikki?
It is however a common expression in Ayisyen.
The French idiom is exactly the same as the English, isn't it?
"Je serais ravi d'expliquer"
Was it Charles Cooke who called it a cargo cult of language? Stupid people don't understand what smart people say, so they think if they write in such a way that they don't understand it, they'll be smart.
That person is talking about the implication. Young women may not want to appropriate culture, but what are they gonna do, say no? Of course not, because of the implication.
Plus, relax guy, it's Canada. That's probably how they talk English, buddy.
You just have to know the Canadian alphabet, friend.
I am not your friend, buddy.
He's not your buddy, pal.
"Is Yoga gonna rape these girls, Dennis?"
I find this whole discussion problematic and triggering.
I wonder how these SJWs can live with themselves when they daily appropriate Hindu numerals which were appropriated by the Arabs. I really want them to stop this, start using their own number system. Roman numerals might be ok, since the Romans conquered so much of Europe and imposed their culture upon their new territories.
I was birthed on the Daisyth day of the month of Justice.
Way to just go ahead and appropriate a calendar.
SJW in dreadlocks. Cultural appropriation? Discuss.
Cultural appropriation for sure, if they were honest. Also, genetic appropriation; you know, like blackface. Or black women straighening their hair and dyeing it blonde.
I'm goint to be re-educated for that, aren't I?
Behold!
http://everydayfeminism.com/20.....readlocks/
Christ. I guess every demographic has their own newsletter. That one is for the crazy.
I think what is sad is that this white girl thought other white people did not judge her as trash when wearing dreadlocks and not shaving.
I have heard someone accuse some dreadlocked white dudes in a Reggae band of cultural appropriation (despite the band also including a black Jamaican). Someone who was a white person who practices some Hindu religion.
some Hindu religion
some sort of Hinduslam or Hindustanity. A Hindu-ism, if you will.
Well, Hinduism is made up of so many different things it always seems silly to talk about Hinduism as one particular religion.
The More You Know.
I read an article not too long ago where a white SJW explained why she was cutting off her dreadlocks (which she personally really digged) because she had a growing realization of how her privilege was insulting marginalized peoples something something blah blah blah...
I think this is it, but there are a number of other articles and YouTube videos if your interested in decending down the rabbit hole of white self-loathing.
I guess booger beat me to it.
Booger beat you! Booger perform important public service. Booger read all everydayfeminism.com everyday all day so you don't have to. Booger take the pain.
Booger chime in again when duty calls.
Roman numerals are a perversion of the older tally marks by the influence of Greek numerals, which were in turn simply lifted from the Hebrew system. To avoid an expropriation of implication, one would have to stick to the glyphs I, V, and X, and to employ them only additively, so XXXXXVIIII for 59.
Who is the official arbiter of what cultural practices are appropriate for those outside the culture to participate in?
The accredited members of that culture. Duh.
Something tells me that very few Indians, or even Indian practitioners of Yoga give a shit about some American and Canadian exercise classes.
My understanding is that yoga is generally scoffed at in India these days. What's hot is Pilates.
If there is a buck to be made, someone will be there to culturewash it.
A white person, I'm sure.
Who is the official arbiter of what cultural practices are appropriate for those outside the culture to participate in?
As a libertarian*, I firmly I believe this can be shoehorned into the USPTO's responsibilities, no?
*Not that kind of libertarian, the other kind.
'Cultural appropriation' is just about the most offensive, appalling and grotesque foolish idea rooted in abject ignorance to come from the progressive ranks. Is this nonsense part of 'critical theory'?
I haven't heard the two phrases linked explicitly, but these same sorts of absurdities have long been exposed by critical theory, so if it's not part of critical theory it's just an appropriation of sorts.
Omaha. Indiana. Winnebago County.
Peyton, is that you?
Who is this Peyton? I can't place him.
Cultural Appropriation is the core of my American Culture.
We take your Yoga, Tacos and Blitzkriegs and make the BIGGER and BADDER.
Don't forget your BIG ASS fries!
I made this comment in the past but when you look at the great epochs and periods in Western history like the Renaissance what do you think they did? They merely 'appropriated' the genius of other places (thanks to the empires of Genoa and Venice who traded the most with the East, mixed it in with Italian savoir faire and presto! You get Venetian architecture that is a mix of everything from Byzantine to Baroque to Arabesque and everything in between nestled in every corners of its piazzas, canals, and bridges.
You get an entirely new idea.
And so it went with all great empires like France and England who borrowed all kinds of crap to make it their own.
The United States is exactly like those places; though Renaissance Italy seems to be a natural comparison. It takes the best the entire planet has to offer to create a unique American experience. To me that's not 'appropriation'. It's genius and is what humans have been doing, like, forever. It's just that now America is the master and leader.
Cultural appropriation is what keeps us alive and kicking bitches!
Marklar marklar, marklar?
"There's a real divide between reasonable people and those people just looking to jump on a bandwagon. And unfortunately, it ends up with good people getting punished for doing good things."
In all seriousness - move over, Samuel Johnson and Oscar Wilde, with a very few words appropriate to the occasion this woman has made her point with quiet eloquence.
In addition to whatever else people are saying about this, I'd point out that when you're talking about cultural appropriation, there must be a difference between appropriating someone's manners, dress, music, objects, etc., and appropriating some other culture's ideas.
Yoga and meditation are mostly ideas, and the suggestion that ideas shouldn't be appropriated from other cultures is emphatically racist.
The idea that only a particular race can engage in a particular cultural activity sounds a bit... segregationist?
Ok.
All colleges should shut down their football teams, because football is a bastardized appropriation of rugby.
And baseball is a bastardized appropriation of cricket.
Track and field is apprpriated from Greece.
Sorry colleges: they're just too problematic.
Calculus is appropriated from the British. Can we give it back?
If Leibnitz doesn't mind.
What was Liebniz, chopped liver?
Yes. Chopped liver.
IIRC, "Ottawa" is an Indian name, or as the Canucks put it, a First Nations name.
And don't get me started on Nova Scotia - I mean, New Scotland? They're admitting the cultural appropriation right in their name!
And Raymond Massey, a Canadian, dared play Abraham Lincoln, an American. And Lincoln was appropriating the name "Lincoln" from his ancestors (patriarchal ancestors!) and the name "Abraham" from the Jews.
Shame on all of them!
Canada is riddled with all sorts of contradictions.
First Nations is our African-American.
I was thinking about the "First Nations" usage the other day. And it occurred to me that it is a complete misnomer and completely ignores the fact that the natives of North America have had their own rich history where cultures and civilization rise and fall and interact. They aren't first nations. They are the last pre-European nations.
I also think it's kind of funny how in Canada "Eskimo" appears to be considered highly offensive, but in the US it seems to be acceptable.
[Jennifer] Scharf, a yoga teacher with the downtown Rama Lotus Centre, said the concept does not apply in this case
Jennifer, I'm not sure it really applies in damn near any case.
This is the main reason I'm not 100% on board with defending this woman. It's pretty clear that *her version of yoga* doesn't count as appropriation, but I get the distinct impression that she's certain white people shouldn't rap or something similarly racist.
Maybe she's just trying to avoid sounding like she endorses British Imperialism, but the use of the term 'fainting heart' vs. 'bleeding heart' seems like a Freudian Slip/portmanteau as well.
Count all the cultural appropriations in this tribute to what we ought to do to the SJWs.
(Caution: Loud and violent)
Incidentally, for any of you who struggle with depression or anxiety, medication can help mask symptoms, but a lot of people find yoga and mediation genuinely helpful.
Where depression is often about ruminating on the past, and anxiety is often about obsessing about the future, yoga and meditation are about training your mind to focus on the present.
And nothing helps focus your mind on the present quite like the yoga pants of the girl in front of you.
om mani padme hum.
That's why people should do Pilates. Because unlike Yoga, it hasn't been appropriated from anything.
Stolen from the French by way of the Russians.
That's why "ballet" doesn't rhyme with "ballot".
Then Tae Bo. That's surely as American as Apple Pie.
Apple Pie was brought over from England with the early colonizers Imperialist invaders
That's why people should do Pilates. Because unlike Yoga, it hasn't been appropriated from anything"
TELL THAT TO MR PILATE
Funny thing is I don't know even one person of Indian heritage here in the U.S. that has ever done or even expressed interest in yoga. And I know a lot of Indian people.
""I don't know even one person of Indian heritage here in the U.S. that has ever done or even expressed interest in yoga""
You will also note a dearth of Native Americans on Archery teams.
And none of my Chinese friends know any Kung Fu.
YOU LIE !!!
*runs away crying searching for a safe space after all ethnic stereo types are crushed before my eyes*
I've met one...but only one.
"Kindergarten" was appropriated from the Germans. SHUT IT DOWN! SHUT IT DOWN!
Come to think of it isn't our entire K-12 system from the Germans? SHUT IT ALL DOWN!
Wha's a "#mce_temp_url#"?
Template engine error. Somebody goofed somewhere.
I don't know if anyone has noticed that the anti-"appropriation " sentiment is fundamentally conservative in nature. They are basically suggesting that cultural traditions be preserved within the culture they are from and not changed or mixed. In fact it is almost racist in its concern for ethnic purity. How, for instance could a white woman dating an indian man avoid "appropriation" except by positively refusing to adopt any indian culture ?
It seems to me that the only way to avoid appropriation is to avoid meaningful ethnic c mixing. The whites could not ever really participate in any non- white cultural practices, and the non whites would then be burdened with having to preserve their distinct ethnicity given that the preservation of their traditional cultural practices is now something held to be sacred.
I don't know if anyone has noticed that the anti-"appropriation " sentiment is fundamentally conservative in nature.
We noticed. All of PC is essentially conservative in nature. It's entirely xenophobic and eugenecist by way progressive attitudes. The great irony of progressivism is it initially projects itself as a philosophy of tolerance, and will eventually bumble its way into barring mixed-race marriage or transracial adoption.
A non-insignificant number of progressive friends and acquaintances of mine tend to be obsessed with "purity" and "authenticity".
There seems to be a lot of purity consciousness in progressivism. Consider environmentalism, shopping at Whole Foods, etc..
Purity seems to be a human meme from the beginning. From dietary practices to tribalism groups have religiously practiced it. Liberalism should overcome tribalism by focusing on the merit of the individual. But moder liberalism is just not liberal at all.
But moder liberalism is just not liberal at all.
That's why we don't call them liberal any more... and probably why fewer and fewer liberals call themselves that.
"I don't know if anyone has noticed that the anti-"appropriation " sentiment is fundamentally conservative in nature. They are basically suggesting that cultural traditions be preserved within the culture they are from and not changed or mixed."
Yeah, I said that the suggestion that ideas shouldn't be appropriated from other cultures is emphatically racist.
It also seems like a weird reaction to colonialism.
The imperialists pressed their cultures on other people. That was racist.
Now it's racist for us to take on the cultures of other people?
Everything white people do is problematic.
Everything is racist. And if you doubt that, then you're a racist!!11!!
Racist !!!1!
"It's not fully clear what triggered the ending of the weekly class, which Scharf has taught since 2008. Scharf suggested calling the class "mindful stretching'"
OK, fess up Nick = this post was actually a contribution by Thomas Pynchon
The absurdity-level of this shit seems to have passed far beyond the "humor" barrier and now reads like some kind of warning about the impending Apocalyptic collapse of human society...
"What if we don't call it Yoga!?
"Christ, that's worse! Its like admitting it was stolen!"
"Really Bill, ..."Christ"? How ironic. Aren't you an athiest jew or something?"
"Can we just lay off the metaphysical for a minute; if we don't fix this Yoga thing, Jenny's out of a job."
"Couldn't she convert to Hinduism? Or would that not satisfy anyone? I mean, there's got to be a billion of them already."
Also anyone who practices yoga these days, and I am one, can't help being aware that it is not the same shit practiced in India 100 years ago. There are numerous yoga styles that are primarily just exercise and many classes are shameless about mixing in Pilates or other core strengthening exercises.
If anything the remnants of Indian culture, like the 'namaste' at the end just seem silly.
I'm still waiting for some SJW douchenozzle to accuse me of appropriating Korean culture for practicing Tae Kwon-Do. I plan to look them square in the eyes and tell them that while I appear to be a white male, I choose to identify as a Korean and their accusation is a severely othering micro-aggression, just to see how they react.
And if that doesn't shut them up, I'll kick them in head really fucking hard.
douchenozzle is pretty funny
Feel free to appropriate it.
I disagree. The nozzles of douches actually do serve some useful purpose in this world. The social justice cadres don't.
Might I suggest just leading with the head kick.
Have you considered Krav Maga?
Bro?
The student association's facebook page is trending on Facebook. Whoever runs the page is now replying to every negative comment on the initial announcement with some variation of the phrase "well, we actually cancelled the class because there were zero people enrolled in it this semester," but they're becoming increasingly angrier with each negative comment. "Jeez, this isn't that hard to understand, nobody was enrolled!" They also keep saying "we want to repeat, it wasn't cancelled, just put on hold."
They are, of course, being immediately refuted by people saying they were attending the classes, but why would they let that stop them?
Can some PLEASE make it stop.
Can someone PLEASE make it stop.
It is just beginning....peak derp will truly be a sight to behold !!!
There's no such thing as Peak Derp. That won't stop these asshats from trying to reach it though.
I guess then these 'social justice warriors' would be against Tiger Woods and Michelle Wie appropriating the Scottish game, Golf!
So no listening to music huh?
As I said before, no one "owns" a culture. A culture is nothing more than a set if learned achievements that, unless you're the one individual person who registered that achievement in the fist place, you have no particular right to do anything other than thank your lucky stars that someone, probably someone much, much, smarter than you, had the decency to grace your life with. The fact is that some stunning mediocrity has the unmitigated gall to try to claim ownership for those achievements (in the most offensive way possible) based on nothing more than the fact that their ancestors came from the same geographic expanse as the person who actually achieved them. Anyone who actually does achieve something in this world should look at them with utter contempt.
Whatever happened to just responding with Phuc Dat Bich? That seems like the sane response.
Yo Yo Ma is appropriating Western music and must be stopped.
Fuck no. Appropriate more. More!
Namaste, bitches.
The next non-Italian college student who orders a pizza better watch out.
It's like puritans and sex. You can have it, you just can't enjoy it
SJWs are try to culturally appropriate George Wallace's 1963 Inaugural Address.
I'll bet money somewhere that the culture appropriation warriors have been eating orange chicken and burritos at taco bells all their lives.
Who seriously gets offended by this? I've eaten dozens of "Asian" food that tastes nothing like real thing. Not that many Asian food involve peanut sauce and sriracha. The Taekwondo center (don't call it a dojo) I used to go to had Taekwondo themed aerobic classes. "Appropriation" sure sounds like deconstruction / reinvention of cultural identity that appeals to a broader audience, which is fine for progressives when it involves gender identities.
Have you seen the Japanese appropriation of "American" food (which is appropriation of other cultures)? They put mayo and squid on their pizzas. Koreans put sweet potato on theirs. Street Fighter has an Indian character who can teleport in Yoga pose and chants "Yoga" as he spits out fireballs. We crossed this appropriation bridge a real long time ago.
So, no karate or kung fu classes then either?
Or Kung fu fighting
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhUkGIsKvn0
Americans got rid of the mystical bullshit and gave hot chicks an excuse to wear asspants, God bless America!!!
So I wonder (without really caring) what the SJW crowd would label my situation. As a non-Asian who has been a resident of Japan for more than a couple decades, in learning their language to fluency/literacy am I being respectful of their culture or am I appropriating their culture by "pretending" to be Japanese?
Lucky for my delicate feelz, when I am in the US (where I am most likely to run into one of these SJW types) I usually carry my portable safe-space device in the form of a 45 ACP 1911.
Is pole dancing wholly ours? Are we allowed to keep that?
Only if your ancestors were Polish.
Tell you what: you take back yoga and we take back computers, antibiotics, anesthetics, automobiles, and app the other stuff non western cultures have appropriated from the west
Stupidity not yet at peak
Rather, I think we are approaching the vertical asymptote at which stupidity will approach infinity at such a rapidly increasing rate that time will actually stop; kind of like when you travel close to the speed of light. Not sure what will happen, but I think we will all turn into goo.
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SJW's are the most racist people since there demands can only lead to segregations and isolationism of cultures, everyone in their own box and no crossing of the lines. Unfortunately what they don't realize is that all this cultural appropriaton is the very same thing that gave them the freedoms, better living, better health and technologies than if they stayed in their own little world. Just look at the remote tribes that have been found in South America they have never moved beyond the ability to just survive. Appropriation and learning of other ways is necessary for societies to move forward to progress. SJW's the new fascism.
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