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Politics

Donald Trump Is Not the Republican Party's Future—but He Is Where It's at Right Now

Peter Suderman | 7.22.2015 2:50 PM

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Some conservatives have grumbled recently about the amount of attention paid to Donald Trump, and attempts to extrapolate what his candidacy means for the GOP. What, after all, does his reality-TV stunt of a campaign really reveal, especially so early in the race? 

Sure, he's leading in the polls right now, but that tells us nothing about how the race will eventually turn out. As The Weekly Standard's Jay Cost recently noted on Twitter, no-hope candidates like Herman Cain, Rick Santorum, and Newt Gingrich all led the GOP field for a little while in the last presidential primary race. At this point in the race in 2012 cycle, Minnesota Rep. Michelle Bachman was in second place. She eventually picked up less than a quarter of one percent of the total vote.

This is both true and worth remembering. Donald Trump is not going to be president of the United States of America. He is not going to be the Republican party's 2016 presidential nominee. He is unlikely to be a serious force in the GOP primary race by the time voting actually starts next year.

Donald Trump, in other words, is not the future face of the Republican party. He's not where the party is going.

But it's also true that at this moment, in July of 2015, several months before the start of the primary and more than a year before the next presidential election, Donald Trump stands at the top of three different national polls, and is running two points behind Jeb Bush in a fourth. There are signs that over the last week, his lead actually increased. Which means that a non-trivial portion of the Republican party base has watched Donald Trump's psuedo-campaign—his series of planned outrages and ugly, stupid, bilious, fact-challenged statements about immigrants and everything else—and decided that they like what they see.

This won't last, and it's not a sign of some major shift in the GOP's tone or general political outlook. But it is the latest—and perhaps most egregious—manifestation of the party's willingness to flirt with and temporarily back no-hope crank candidates whose shtick consists largely or entirely of appealing to the lowest common denominator—what my colleague Nick Gillespie has called the party's "long love affair with schmucks."

Trump's blowhard candidacy is easily the schmuckiest in recent memory, and what it proves is how strong the desire to embrace these sorts of awful candidates remains within parts of the GOP, even after seeing how poorly these sorts of candidates have ultimately fared in the past. If anything, it's even worse given that Trump's awfulness comes not from any real conservative conviction—he's a Democratic donor, and former supporter of national health care, gun restrictions, and wealth taxes who in 2004 told CNN that he "[identifies] more as a Democrat"—but from a simple and barely disguised desire for vainglorious self-promotion. Trump is essentially offering to con the GOP, and, at least for moment, a lot of Republicans seem to be responding with affirmative enthusiasm.

So no, Donald Trump is not where the Republican party's going. But he is where it's at right now. And that is notable, and damning, enough. 

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  1. Woodchip-o-Matic 5000   10 years ago

    YES! Another Trump article!

    1. fish   10 years ago

      I too eagerly await this afternoons P.M. Trump Links!

      1. WTF   10 years ago

        Reason has a quota to fill, apparently.

        1. Rhywun   10 years ago

          Oh, trump off, you trump. Trump?

          1. WTF   10 years ago

            How about Trump, Trump, Trump, beans, and Trump?

            1. Rhywun   10 years ago

              I DON'T LIKE TRUMP!

              1. gaoxiaen   10 years ago

                You can't spell Trump without rump.

              2. DevilDocNowCiv   10 years ago

                Rhywun,

                You, the article writer, and most commentators clearly don't like Trump. Rubio and Walker share Trumps current position on illegal immigration. Many fewer give this to them than to Trump, because he has emphasized it as a grasp for a shot on the interview stage. Again-its as new a position for him as for Rubio and Walker. Many of the others will now push this, too, seeing Trumps great success.

                Judge those of us Repubs who don't approve of illegal immigration harshly, if you will. Those of us who read Reason are probably sympathetic with and approving of some libertarian thought. Please consider the reasoned position that, until we cancel some of the Fed wealth transfer positions, many of us don't want to accept a continued draw of quasi or actual refugees from both this Hemisphere and others.

                That "continued draw" is made to order for magnates who want a depressed wage, and Dems who want prospective voters and workers for campaigns. If we can control our borders, libertarians will have much more success seducing support from Repubs. Win win!

                1. Jay Dubya   10 years ago

                  yup. def a win for those millions of darkies who get thrown in a cage for months on end in facilities where rape is even more common than in prisons. Its a win for the tens of thousands of kids who get imprisoned and deported, and the tens of thousands more who are made orphans by the hard working members of ICE.

                  Speaking of ICE, its def a win for the kids in Mexico they murdered by shooting thru the border fence and claiming they were narcos later. Its a win for the judges who all seem to agree that their families cant even sue let alone press criminal charges. because their mexicans.

                  but at least your job picking sstrawberries, or mowing lawns, or doing minimum wage construction is safe now. right?

    2. Swiss Servator, rudert schwer!   10 years ago

      At last, our long national shortage is over!

  2. *GILMORE*   10 years ago

    Oh, Peter.

    I thought you'd be above this. First jesse...now you. Is no one above the Trump-Goldstein phenomena?

  3. Je suis Woodchipper   10 years ago

    AAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

    I FEEL LIKE I'M TAKING CRAZY PILLS

  4. Fist of Etiquette   10 years ago

    Some conservatives have grumbled recently about the amount of attention paid to Donald Trump...

    So here's some more. Take that, conservatives!

    1. Woodchip-o-Matic 5000   10 years ago

      You don't like your double-serving of TRUMP? Too bad! Here's another!

      1. WTF   10 years ago

        "Thank you, Sir, may I have another?!"

    2. *GILMORE*   10 years ago

      SEE! ANTI-MEDIA RIGHTWINGER

    3. Pro Libertate   10 years ago

      I'm no effing conservative, and I think this is ridiculous. If the Donald has legs and is still in the race in any serious way in a month or two, okay. But this much coverage now? Leave this nonsense to the general media, which lives at this level.

      1. Fist of Etiquette   10 years ago

        Yeah! Let's talk about the Scott Walker and Martin O'Malley campaigns and the possible implicazzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzZZZZZZZZZZZ huh what?

        1. WTF   10 years ago

          I think you're ready for Hillary.

          1. Fist of Etiquette   10 years ago

            COMPARED TO THE DONALD, THEY'RE ALL TOTAL SNOOZEFESTS.

          2. R C Dean   10 years ago

            Fist does seem like somebody roofied his drink in that last post.

            I'm thinking we need to make "Ready for Hillary" a pop-cult meme for "on the verge of passing out", as in "Damn, after we finished off that bottle of Everclear, I was Ready for Hillary."

        2. Troy muy grande boner   10 years ago

          I want more posts of hot female athletes.

  5. Pro Libertate   10 years ago

    This is getting absurd, guys. I really hate politics-as-sport.

    Polls are worse than meaningless right now. So what if a showman is getting attention? That's what he does for a living. If he's still standing in a month, fine, but because he's polling well there's some deep statement to be made? I don't think so.

    1. Hyperion   10 years ago

      But if you get tired of Trump news, there's always plenty of good Hillary puff pieces over at NYT and New Republic.

      1. Pro Libertate   10 years ago

        She should be getting publicly pilloried, but let's pretend she's not a felon.

  6. *GILMORE*   10 years ago

    "Trump is not where the Republican party's going. But he is where it's at"

    1. BearOdinson   10 years ago

      Where its at!
      I got two turntables and microphone!

    2. Judge Chipper   10 years ago

      He does have The Devil's Haircut!

  7. WoodchipsandDerp   10 years ago

    Trump's blowhard candidacy is easily the schmuckiest in recent memory

    I know what's going on. It's an adjective contest, amirite?

    1. R C Dean   10 years ago

      easily the schmuckiest in recent memory

      I seriously doubt that.

      Which is schmuckier: saying stupid shit, or literally corralling reporters to prevent them from approaching the candidate?

      1. The Last American Hero   10 years ago

        Neither - allowing foreign governments to set US State Dept policy in exchange for "donations" to your charity is schmuckier.

      2. Tman   10 years ago

        Since Shrillary does both I would assume that makes her the schmuckiest.

      3. SugarFree   10 years ago

        With a name like schmuckier, it has to be Hillary.

    2. Pan Zagloba   10 years ago

      "Schmuck" is Jiddish for penis, right?

      So yes, it's the most dickish candidacy since Obama II.

      1. JimBob7   10 years ago

        I think you mean 'putz.' But I follow your intent.

        1. Jay Dubya   10 years ago

          schmuck also means penis. you know how eskimos have 1000 words for snow? yiddish is like that too. with dicks.

  8. gritzly   10 years ago

    REALLY?! More? Fuck off.

  9. kinnath   10 years ago

    Has the main said a single fucking thing that makes sense as policy? If not, leave this clown on the back page.

    1. Pro Libertate   10 years ago

      It is news that the guy is making a splash. What it isn't is the biggest news in the entire world for a week now. He's not even the most shocking candidate in this election. I place him fourth, after unindicted felon, socialist, and guy who wants to use the army on Congress. Maybe even fifth after Biden, which, all humor aside, would lower the average IQ of presidents to sub-100.

      1. Woodchip-o-Matic 5000   10 years ago

        Seriously, Biden is a bigger concern for me than Trump. Once the media give up on Hillary they are going to turn to a "serious" candidate with experience but less baggage.

        1. Citizen X   10 years ago

          You have to admit, though, a Biden presidency would be HILARIOUS.

          1. JimBob7   10 years ago

            Joey Plugs as Preezy? Definitely need to prepare a ratline to someplace smarter- like Guatemala.

        2. fish   10 years ago

          Yeah but those dreamy Ray-Bans.....you know, the ones that scream Presidential Authority.

    2. RAHeinlein   10 years ago

      Well, everyone wanted to dump the Iowa straw poll - now they have to live with the consequences...

  10. Fist of Etiquette   10 years ago

    Donald Trump is not going to be president of the United States of America.

    GASP! But he speaks to me at the core of my very being.

    This smacks of KMW stating last time that, AND I QUOTE, "Ron Paul will be president over my dead body."

  11. Jerryskids   10 years ago

    Somebody puts a gun to your head and tells you you have to vote for Trump, McCain or Romney. As you think about it, think about the fact that you're trying to figure out "would it really make a rat's ass bit of difference which of the three I picked"? And then think about the fact that the GOP actually picked two of those ass-clowns to run the circus. "What difference, at this point, does it make?" really is an all-purpose campaign slogan, isn't it?

    1. Jordan   10 years ago

      Trump, McCain or Romney

      McTromney.

      1. Swiss Servator, rudert schwer!   10 years ago

        Trumcainey?

        1. Dark Lord of the wood chipper   10 years ago

          Winner

      2. Restor-woodchipper-as   10 years ago

        McRumpney

  12. Tman   10 years ago

    "Herman Cain, Rick Santorum, and Newt Gingrich all led the GOP field for a little while in the last presidential primary race".........and then fizzled out as expected.

    BUT THIS TIME IT'S DIFFERENT!!!!!

    TRUMP IS THE FACE OF THE GOP JUST LIKE CAIN, SANTORUM AND GINGRICH WEREN'T LAST TIME!!!

    The fuck is wrong with everyone at Reason these days? Yes Matt and Pete, Trump will fizzle out like the others did. No, he isn't the "face of the GOP" just like the others weren't last time, despite the fact that he is bringing up stuff the center facing pols don't want to talk about.

    IMAGINE IF REASON WOULD TALK THIS MUCH ABOUT RAND FUCKING PAUL.

    Jesus.

    1. waffles   10 years ago

      I read your comment but like Malkovich going through the portal in Being John Malkovich all I could see was TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP.

    2. John   10 years ago

      Well, if it came out Paul's name was on some racist newsletters that were published 30 years ago Reason would be talking a lot about Paul. there is that.

      What do you want TMAN?

  13. Homple   10 years ago

    Reason doesn't like Republicans and whoops up Trump as the embodiment of the party.

    Well, hey, any stick will do to best a dog, but Jaysus, that dog is pretty much a mass of blood-clotted hair and dog meat hamburger by now.

    1. Homple   10 years ago

      well "beat" a dog.

      1. *GILMORE*   10 years ago

        It still made perfect sense in Hayseed-english

        1. BearOdinson   10 years ago

          Authentic Western gibberish

          1. fish   10 years ago

            Indeed.....

            I wash born here, an I wash raished here, and dad gum it, I am gonna die here, an no sidewindin' bushwackin', hornswagglin' cracker croaker is gonna rouin me bishen cutter!

        2. Homple   10 years ago

          Which is my Muttersprache as all will have noticed by now.

  14. Citizen Nothing   10 years ago

    Trump plays Reason. Reason plays the commentariat. The commentariat dances and dances. Me, I like to dance, so it's cool.

    1. Citizen Nothing   10 years ago

      Plus I'm sitting in a villa on the side of Mauna Kea with a view of the Pacific and a fridge full of cold beer (and some Wi-fi finally).So it's ALL cool. I've missed you dopes, but not that much.

      1. Citizen Nothing   10 years ago

        Oh, and there's a tree full of limes just a few steps off the lanai, so I may be forced to shlep off to Hilo later for some gin and some tonic. How I suffer.

        1. *GILMORE*   10 years ago

          You put the lime in the coconut

          1. Gojira   10 years ago

            RAPE!

        2. Swiss Servator, rudert schwer!   10 years ago

          *shakes fist, demands Kona coffee*

          1. *GILMORE*   10 years ago

            Blue Mountain or Kona = discuss.

            I prefer the former, although I've never had the latter in situ quite the same way

            99% of the stuff labeled as such in the US isn't even remotely the real deal.

            1. Dark Lord of the wood chipper   10 years ago

              I'll pick... Whiskey.

    2. John   10 years ago

      Pretty much. But is it too much to expect Reason to be something besides a trolling operation? Is it really just Gawker without the dick picks and the gay extortion plots?

  15. John   10 years ago

    So a guy who is only getting 24% support and has the highest negatives of any candidate is "where the party is now"? Really?

    And if Trump is where the Republicans are, why isn't Bernie Sanders where the Democrats are? Yeah, I am sure Sudernman will be writing an article associating the entire Democratic Party with Bernie Sanders real soon.

    This is ridiculous.

    1. Citizen Nothing   10 years ago

      Must be a big cocktail party comin' up, amirite?!!!

      1. Citizen Nothing   10 years ago

        Actually, if any of you are in Hilo at the moment and want to bring up some gin and some ice...

      2. John   10 years ago

        The funny thing is I go to such things. And the Reason people are not at the good ones. They try so hard and they still are not one of the cool people.

        1. Mr. Paulbotto   10 years ago

          This should be the Reason Trump coverage theme song...

        2. Jay Dubya   10 years ago

          well keep commenting on their blog. that will show 'em.

    2. Dark Lord of the wood chipper   10 years ago

      No John this is very concerning. Aren't you concerned?

      1. John   10 years ago

        I don't know why it is concerning. It is however kind of sad and in its own way funny.

        My mistake is I am not like citizen nothing and am dumb enough to take these people seriously and expect something better.

  16. Troy muy grande boner   10 years ago

    Go! Trump Go! For the sake of Christ Don, keep going.

    1. John   10 years ago

      If I thought he could win, I would agree with you. He couldn't be any worse than Obama and the Butt hurt over it would be fabulous.

      1. Troy muy grande boner   10 years ago

        I am in just the for lulz. Seriously, I want to see Biden v. Trump. Imagine the shit that would come out of their mouths during the debates. It wouldn't exactly be fiddling while Rome burned. It would be more like Rome burning during a stand up comedy routine.

      2. Troy muy grande boner   10 years ago

        Are you kidding, the butthurt would be so dense, you could probably get a DUI from all that schadenfruede.

  17. Notorious G.K.C.   10 years ago

    Dear Lord, even Trump doesn't talk about Trump so much.

    1. John   10 years ago

      Donald Trump is America. Don't you know that? He is not where it is going because of the milenials. But he is America today.

      1. Notorious G.K.C.   10 years ago

        Will he at least hire that nice guy who did "Walk on the Wild Side" to play at his campaign events?

  18. Lord Humungus   10 years ago

    C'mon, Trump would be an awesome president... or even Biden.

    If the ship is going down, we might as well have a floor show too.

    1. Restor-woodchipper-as   10 years ago

      This is in line with my thinking as well.

  19. Notorious G.K.C.   10 years ago

    Reason won't cover the last trump as much as it covers *this* Trump.

  20. Tony   10 years ago

    Maybe Reince Priebus should give him another scolding.

    Anybody watch FOX News regularly? They usually do what they think is in the best interest of the party. Are they ignoring Trump or giving him the same attention everyone else is?

    1. fish   10 years ago

      Anybody watch FOX News regularly?

      Well it would seem that you do. Please tell us more about this Trump fellow.

      1. Tony   10 years ago

        I watch MSNBC so I know his every move.

  21. Napoleon Bonoparte   10 years ago

    Donald Trump is not going to be president of the United States of America.

    File this one under "Famous Last Words".

  22. Robert   10 years ago

    A Hispanic political confrere of mine at a meeting tonight said he was very enthusiastic about Trump for prez.

  23. Harun   10 years ago

    I think Trump is fun and probably good for the GOP. The debate will get ratings.

    Someone will come up with some jiujitsu move on Trump or maybe not.

    (I'm wondering if he insults Perry and Perry dukes it out with him....)

    In fact, I have a feeling that in the future, we will have more entertainment candidates.

    Maybe even just throw on a guest celebrity onto debates for fun.

    The Dems should have Jon Stewart in the debates just to mix it up.

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