Edward Snowden

Edward Snowden Should Be Publicly Hanged, Former Intel Committee Vice Chairman Says

Let's be more like Iran or ISIS

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Former Senator Saxby Chambliss may have pulled himself out of office but he hasn't pulled himself out of the public eye. And he's still upset about Edward Snowden, the whistleblower who revealed the National Security Agency's massive domestic surveillance operations. Via The Hill:

"We need to hang him on the courthouse square as soon was we get our hands on him," retired Sen. Saxby Chambliss (R-Ga.) — who served as vice chairman of the powerful intelligence panel before stepping down from Congress last year — said during an appearance at the University of Georgia this month.

"I hope none of you have any sympathy for him," he told students at the Terry College of Business.

Many young people, in fact, do have sympathy, and more, for Snowden, who took a big risk to bring attention to government acts he, and many others, believed to be unconstitutional. It's a very American thing to do. Conservatives like Chambliss pay a lot of lip service to not trusting government and to the power of the individual over the government but that lip service is usually limited to what fits their own partisan, sectarian goals.

To a conservative, government can't be trusted to, say, take over healthcare or roll out national education standards, but can be trusted to spy on the world and wage war from death machines in the sky thousands of miles away. This cognitive dissonance is a big reason conservatives can't take advantage of the "libertarian moment" electorally. Conservatives may say their skeptical of government, and may be described that way, but most people can see that that skepticism and distrust is conveniently selective.

The U.S., of course, doesn't practice public executions. What Chambliss is arguing is that the U.S. adopt a practice only a few countries around the world adhere to. In 2013, just four countries were known to conduct public executions: Iran, North Korea, Saudi Arabia, and Somalia. Since then, the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria, an aspirational state, has also began to conduct public executions.

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  1. Certain people have most decidedly earned the privilege of dangling like over ripe fruit.

    Snowden isn’t one of them.

    1. Certain people have most decidedly earned the privilege of dangling like over ripe fruit.

      Start with Chambliss. I’ll donate to the fund.

      1. Chambliss is a special case. I say he deserves the Vlad the Impaler treatment.

        1. Short stake, so his pain and discomfort can last at least a week.

    2. I have a fruit grinder. It’s manual, though.

    3. Reason Magazine Commentariat – come for the snark, and stay for the subpoenas!

  2. The fact that he mentions public executions is a non-sequitor. Most of us here agree that Snowdon did do the right thing. That is the problem with Chambliss’ (and other cons’) statements against him.
    Someone who is convicted of aggravated 1st degree murder, I am totally fine with public execution. Along with a public video of a reenactment of his crime.

    1. Would You Like to Know More

      1. +1 terrible Heinlein adaptation

        1. How come the “Mobile Infantry” wasn’t very mobile?

          1. All a matter of relative mobility. “Dizzy” Flores was in the “Immobile Infantry”

            1. I thought Dizzy bounced nicely…

    2. Someone who is convicted of aggravated 1st degree murder, I am totally fine with public execution.

      Would you be fine with this man having been executed?

      http://www.innocenceproject.or…..bert-dewey

      Or this one?

      http://www.newsobserver.com/ne…..99415.html

  3. I mean if you support the death penalty, what difference does it make how they (the gov.) kills someone? I just never understood the rationale for that.

    1. Because, while the ends are the same, the means matter. Also, it’s vastly different in the last hour before death if you are asleep or being skinned alive.

      1. as much as I don’t agree with saxby I don’t really think he’s is advocating torture.

        1. Not that I would put it passed the asshole.

          1. I should be hung publicly for my grammar.

            1. “We thought you was hung!”

              “I is, I is”

              1. “We thought you was hung!”

                “I is, I is”

                RAYCISS!!1!

                And fucking hilarious.

            2. Were you hanging pubicly, it might be past the asshole.

    2. And if your death is useful agitprop.

  4. “I hope none of you have any sympathy for him,” he told students at the Terry College of Business.

    Or what, Mr. Chambliss?

    1. Or you aren’t a REAL AMERICAN and will be hanging right there next to Snowden.

    2. Or you’ve been “radicalized” and should be placed into one of Wesley Clark’s concentration camps.

      I probably would have gotten up and walked out at that point. I’d like to say I would have said something, but I probably wouldn’t have had the guts.

      1. I carry an 8×10 glossy of my dick, to hold up in lieu of a verbal answer in just such situations. I would encourage you to do likewise.

        1. That pic must be hella pixelated.

          1. Macro lens, duh.

        2. I do the same, but mine is an 11×17.

    3. Retired General Wesley Clark recently answered that question.

      “”if someone supported Nazi Germany at the expense of the United States, we didn’t say that was freedom of speech, we put him in a camp, they were prisoners of war. If these people are radicalized and they don’t support the United States and they are disloyal to the United States as a matter of principle, fine. It’s their right and it’s our right and obligation to segregate them from the normal community for the duration of the conflict.”

      If you don’t agree that the traitor Snowden should be hanged in the public square, if you won’t even join in a two-minute hate against the traitor Snowden, then you obviously don’t support the United States and are disloyal to the United States as a matter of principle.

      1. I guess old Wesley never heard the name “Joe Kennedy”.

      2. You mean like when Charles Lindbergh, Joe Kennedy and Prescott Bush were put in concentration camps for supporting and aiding the Nazis in the 30’s.

        Indeed a shameful period of our history that few people recall today.

  5. Does Chambliss’ neck even have the tensile strength to hold his bodyweight? I’d wager his head would pop right off if he was ever hanged for abdicating his duties and foreswearing his oath to the Constitution.

  6. We need to hang him on the courthouse square as soon was we get our hands on him

    What is “due process”?

  7. Saxby Chambliss

    Sounds like a porn name.

    1. Chambliss really needs to own up about that newspaper article that said he’d been found in a room with 3 dead asian tranny prostitutes and a kilo of crack cocaine and krokodil.

      He’s said nothing about it, or the underage albino dwarf in the leather gear that ran out of the room when the police raided.

      People need to know!

      1. ” and krokodil”. The real scandal was the copy of an early Soviet-era satirical magazine.

        1. Don’t forget them huffing Jenkem. That shit can make you barking mad.

      2. Was one of the dead prostitutes Suki?

    2. Drag queen

  8. “We need to hang him on the courthouse square as soon was we get our hands on him,” retired Sen. Saxby Chambliss (R-Ga.) ? who served as vice chairman of the powerful intelligence panel before stepping down from Congress last year ? said during an appearance at the University of Georgia this month.

    True threat? Or the sort of colorful language by a public official for which the first amendment is reserved?

    1. Probably colorful language. But, given the power we’ve allowed the state to accrue, any threat from a public official (or former public official who presumably still has ties to those in power) is intrinsically different from those of a private citizen.

      If I say Snowden should be stuffed in a woodchipper, it’s a vague threat with little likelihood of coming true. If a politician says the same thing, it could easily be seen as a euphemism for throwing the book at Snowden and could well influence the public debate.

    2. There are several profound differences between a HnR commenter’s fantasy of extreme justice for those who practice injustice from the bench and Chambliss’ fantasy of extreme injustice for a hero of liberty.

      Significantly, few HnR commenters would really celebrate if evil judges were literally fed to woodchippers, even if they had received a fair trial and conviction by a jury of their peers for the crimes they committed. In fact, I’d venture that most HnR commenters oppose the death penalty. On the other hand, Chambliss really would celebrate the lynching of Snowden, before giving him the Constitutionally guaranteed right of a fair trial. He is, quite literally, calling for the assassination of Snowden.

      1. In fact, I’d venture that most HnR commenters oppose the death penalty.

        I support the death penalty, just not the State being in charge of carrying it out.

        “You think I never dug a hole before?”- Joe Pesci in “Goodfellas”.

  9. “I hope none of you have any sympathy for him,” he told students at the Terry College of Business.

    I would love to have raised my hand at this point.

    1. “Senator, are you familiar with woodchippers?”

  10. Somalia? Then you white male libertarians should support this, right?

    /ROADZ?

  11. In Chambliss’s defense, he is retarded. We should give him a pass.

    1. We should actually be celebrating his achievements, after-all he overcame so much.

    2. Families, when a child is born
      Want it to be intelligent.
      I, through intelligence,
      Having wrecked my whole life,
      Only hope the baby will prove Ignorant and stupid.
      Then he will crown a tranquil life
      By becoming a Cabinet Minister.

      Su Tung-p’o (A.D. 1036-1101)

  12. I used to wonder where the Stalinists, Nazis, Maoists and such found the leaders who would conjure up so much blood lust among their followers. Upon reading Chambliss’s statement, I conclude that we need look no farther than our own duly elected legislators.

  13. “Conservatives may say their skeptical of government, and may be described that way, but most people can see that that skepticism and distrust is conveniently selective.”

    According to Bo, the commentariat would agree with Chambliss. So yeah, I’ll say it.

    Hang Snowden the traitor!!!

  14. Honestly, even if Snowden turns out to have had traitorous intentions and committed crimes that we’d object to–and that doesn’t at all appear to be the case–by far the greater criminals are/were the people in our government that have been illegally spying on Americans in direct violation of the Constitution and U.S. law. Prosecute those, who constitute a far great danger than Snowden ever could, then we can talk about Snowden.

  15. Anyone who believes that treason should be a crime has no business working in government.

  16. Why are these chickenhawks always so goddamned bloodthirsty?

    -jcr

  17. Edward Snowden Should Be Publicly Hanged, Former Intel Committee Vice Chairman Says

    At least he didn’t say fed through a woodchipper.

  18. Oh, I think someone should be hanged in the public square over this…

    …but it sure as shit ain’t Snowden.

  19. Snowden deserves special treatment…like a Presidential Medal of Freedom. Oh, and a court ordered right to junk-punch everyone who denied and lied about illegal surveillance.

    Start hitting the gym, Edward. We want to see some vicious uppercuts.

  20. I can’t remember — has Snowden even been CHARGED with a crime? He sure hasn’t been convicted of a crime. I think Chambliss is threatening Snowden, and perhaps a prosecutor somewhere should look into it.

    1. They’re not true threats if uttered by people who work for the government.

      Principals, not principles.

  21. Fuck you senator, you fascist piece of shit. I hope you die slowly of bone cancer, screaming and shitting yourself.

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