Calif. Declares Uber Drivers to Be Employees, Minn. Sex Offender Program Unconstitutional, Trump Wants Oprah as Veep: P.M. Links

• California's Labor Commission has ruled that Uber drivers are employees of the company, not private contractors, which will likely significantly drive up the cost of the service.

• A federal judge has ruled that Minnesota's sex offender treatment program, which locks up those convicted even after they've completing their sentences, is unconstitutional and violates the rights of the 700 people stuck in the program.
• Donald Trump wants Oprah Winfrey as his running mate. Well, why not at this point?
• Making the media rounds today is a man who claims he was served up a fried rat at a KFC in Los Angeles. KFC says it's a hoax and the meat is actually chicken and the man making the claim is refusing to cooperate with the investigation or show them the offending hunk of meat.
• The European Union has agreed to extend economic sanctions on Russia.
• The Federal Communications Commission (FCC) is planning a $100 million fine against AT&T for slowing down data speeds for customers with unlimited data plans without telling them. AT&T says it will dispute the decision.

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[Fist of Etiquette]

Donald Trump wants Oprah Winfrey as his running mate.

Now that's a ticket that can finance itself.

[Rufus J. Firefly]

Hello.

"California's Labor Commission has ruled that Uber drivers are employees of the company, not private contractors, which will likely significantly drive up the cost of the service."

I hate. Can't stand rulings like this one.

When I opened my business I considered contracting some of the positions but was told by the government I couldn't. The person who informed me? A contract worker for the government.

They're allowed to 'cut' and 'save' money. But not businesses apparently.

[Brett L]

Yep. As noted on a previous thread, I had a sweet 1099 contract going until the company's accountants decided (probably with good justification) that I met the IRS's definition of an employee and my choices were go W-4 or quit.

[Rufus J. Firefly]

...and the decision was...?

[Brett L]

Negotiate for my current hourly times 2000 plus insurance. They went for it, too. Which only proves I was undercharging.

[Pl?ya Manhattan.]

Any chance they get to withhold more....

[Adans smith]

if the drivers file a s-c on their federal return,and self employment tax sheet,I don't see how this ruling an hold up

[Brett L]

Nope. The IRS says, essentially, if you work for only one company doing one thing that is within their area of competence or supports the same you are an employee.

[Adans smith]

I stand corrected,sounds like Uber will have a big matching tax bill,and then the whole with holding costs.

[Muzzled Woodchipper]

I don't understand why the drivers can't make that decision for themselves rather than courts.

[Rufus J. Firefly]

Are you seriously asking that question? Like, serious seriously? I mean, if you're serious I guess but I'm not sure if you're serious.

[My Dog Bites Better Than Yours]

I don't see haw an Uber driver is an employee, yet every driver that leases a taxi cab is a private contractor.

even in California this does not make any sense

[Fist of Etiquette]

The Federal Communications Commission (FCC) is planning a $100 million fine against AT&T for slowing down data speeds for customers with unlimited data plans without telling them.

Ooo, those customers are splitting $100 million?

[Pl?ya Manhattan.]

*checks mail*

Nope.

[db]

In additional future charges, yes.

[Injun, nonviolent Wood Chipper]

Save us all from those who think this ruling actually helps the poor somehow.California's Labor Commission has ruled that Uber drivers are employees of the company, not private contractors, which will likely significantly drive up the cost of the service.

Californians will get californicated, as usual.

FULL DISCLOSURE: As an obnoxious asshat who represents the blowhard stupidity of Reason magazine's commenting peanut gallery, I hereby declare that my comments are typical internet bluster and hyperbole, hardly valuable to public discourse, and must not be construed as "true threats" in "interstate or foreign commerce" in violation of federal statute 18 U.S. Code ? 875. Any precious snowflake or federal judge offended by my worthless comments should see a plastic surgeon to graft thicker skin, or wait and pray for stem cell therapy innovations to grow said thicker skin. Because the word "trigger" is a part of the phrase "Trigger Warning" and may trigger a repressed fear of firearms in some people, no trigger warnings shall precede my comments.

[Mike M.]

I think Greece just formally told all their creditors "Fuck you, we ain't paying."

You would think that mankind would eventually learn that loaning insane amounts of money to lazy, deadbeat losers is never a good idea, but apparently not.

[Brett L]

Again, if Greece leaves the Eurozone, the Brits will demand their government follow. The French and Germans will happily write of billions to prevent that.

[Hey Nikki!]

The UK has never been in the eurozone.

[Muzzled Woodchipper]

This. They are part of the EU, but never adopted the Euro.

[Rufus J. Firefly]

The Brits are not sure if they want to enter the...DANGER ZONE.

Blame DeGaulle in part. Or not. They may be pleased he didn't want them in.

[Brett L]

Sorry. My bad. The EUropean Economic Area. They most certainly a part of the treaty if not the currency.

[Ein Barde und ein Holzhacker]

As far as most Brits are concerned the English Channel might as well be the Atlantic ocean. They want nothing to do with those asshats on the continent.

[Rufus J. Firefly]

Problem is, England is rot with PC retardation.

Not sure who is worse or better anymore.

But I sure enjoyed visiting!

[Muzzled Woodchipper]

England is the worse than the continent for PC retardation by a country mile. I would argue also for nanny statism too. Unfortunately, I see that as our not-so-distant future.

[grrizzly]

And yet Britain is considered a strong supporter of economic liberalism in Europe. This is one of the arguments German Free Democrats used to explain their desire to see the UK inside the EU.

[Medical Physics Guy]

Strangely, the UK turns out to be a leading voice for economic freedom, but when it comes to personal freedom, they can't bend over enough for the Nanny State.

[Jerry on the sea]

Now if only someone could tell David Cameron.

[Rufus J. Firefly]

Give them a break. They just lost to the Faroe Islands - twice - in Euro 2016 qualifying.

[Rhywun]

Dayum... that IS embarassing.

[The Last American Hero]

It's only a bad idea if your the one stuck holding the bag when the game is over.

[Mike M.]

Krugman is probably jerking off all over himself right as we speak. He thinks stealing other people's money is man's highest virtue.

[Hey Nikki!]

All the evidence we present in this report shows that Greece not only does not have the ability to pay this debt, but also should not pay this debt first and foremost because the debt emerging from the Troika's arrangements is a direct infringement on the fundamental human rights of the residents of Greece. Hence, we came to the conclusion that Greece should not pay this debt because it is illegal, illegitimate, and odious.

What's amazing is that this is a perfectly true statement. But it's not being made by an anarchist. Perhaps the committee's next act will be to declare the government illegitimate as well?

[Muzzled Woodchipper]

What are you talking about?

Clearly Greeks have a fundamental human right to extract money from hard working Germans and transfer it to themselves. Come on. This is basic, Human Rights 101 shit.

[Ein Barde und ein Holzhacker]

I wonder what they're going to do if the Germans ever foreclose on them.

[Muzzled Woodchipper]

Your handle is TEH AWESOME.

[Ein Barde und ein Holzhacker]

Danke

[neoteny]

because the debt emerging from the Troika's arrangements

I thought the Greek public debt 'emerged' from (previous) Greek governments contracting that debt through various avenues.

[bassjoe]

In fairness, the loans were WAY more than Greece could have ever reasonably afforded to service, considering the size and relative volatility of its economy when the loans were approved.

Greece would have never gotten those loans if it was not part of the Eurozone. Whether it should have ever been allowed into the Eurozone given its weak economic history in the first place is also a relevant question that nobody seems to want to answer and blame for that shitty decision is not with the Greeks, who (completely rationally) wanted to be part of the exclusive club.

In short, I think there's a lot of blame for this mess. Heaping all or even a majority of the blame on Greece I don't think is right.

[Catatafish & Woodchips]

Soooo...Greece wanted to join the Eurozone and did. Greece wanted loans and received them. But Greece is not even the primarily responsible party for repaying these loans they requested and that were given to them because they were part of the Eurozone they joined?

[bassjoe]

That's not what I said.

I personally don't understand why people blame only the debtors for being unable to pay back loans they shouldn't have been given to begin with; there is ANOTHER party to the transaction who apparently failed to do due diligence. All reasonable evidence at the time pointed to Greece being unable to pay back the money they were loaned.

[Pro Libertate]

Well, there's stupid and there's dishonest. I personally view Greece as more culpable here, but it's not like the EU hasn't been pretty stupid about the whole thing. Politics and economics are not like peanut butter and chocolate.

[Catatafish & Woodchips]

Bass, see my response to Rufus. My only issue with your statement was that Greece shouldn't bear "even the majority of the blame."

Completely agree that if you make a bad investment, you get stung. My problem with Greece is exacerbated by their apparent refusal to make drastic reforms to their pension and public benefits system.

[NotAnotherSkippy]

Because they borrowed and spent money they couldn't oay back? It's not my fault I shot the guy, it's the fault of the guy who sild me the gun.

The creditors were stupid and probably greedy, but they never forced Greece to take the loans. Greece us entirely at fault here, but the creditors are reaping the risks of their stupidity.

[Rufus J. Firefly]

Greece was, in part, brought in for 'historical' and practical business reasons. Businesses wanted access to new markets. The whole point of the ECC was to unite all of Europe and be a hedge against American hegemony.The thinking was as Europe grows and advances so too would poorer parts of the continent. More importantly, the Greeks had been advocating to get in since the 1950s to ensure it would not fall into communist hands and they were helped by the French who were on friendly terms with them.

I agree. Everyone has a hand in this one. Piling on Greece is a little heavy in my view.

[Rufus J. Firefly]

I might add Italy and Germany, two belligerents in the war, were eager to commit to the ECC/EU cause which is why they always pushed for it.

[Catatafish & Woodchips]

I agree with you that others had a hand in this. You make a bad investment, you suffer consequences. But to say that Greece - the defaulting party - isn't the primarily responsible bad actor goes a bit too far for my tastes.

[Rufus J. Firefly]

They certainly squandered or misspent their EU privileges with their antics.

[LynchPin1477]

I am thrilled to hear this. The wife and I just decided we are going to vacation in Crete next summer and this will make it even cheaper than it already is.

[Fist of Etiquette]

A federal judge has ruled that Minnesota's sex offender treatment program, which locks up those convicted even after they've completing their sentences, is unconstitutional...

Why does the Constitution hate children?

[Brett L]

Wait, indefinite imprisonment is literally the reason they wrote the 5A and a judge agreed? I'm actually shocked.

[Lumbar Liquidator]

Because they're only 3/5 of an adult?

[Injun, nonviolent Wood Chipper]

Making the media rounds today is a man who claims he was served up a fried rat at a KFC in Los Angeles. KFC says it's a hoax and the meat is actually chicken and the man making the claim is refusing to cooperate with the investigation or show them the offending hunk of meat.

Who do you libertarian reasonoid sons of b****es side with?

The little guy or the big evil soulless corporation?

FULL DISCLOSURE: As an obnoxious asshat who represents the blowhard stupidity of Reason magazine's commenting peanut gallery, I hereby declare that my comments are typical internet bluster and hyperbole, hardly valuable to public discourse, and must not be construed as "true threats" in "interstate or foreign commerce" in violation of federal statute 18 U.S. Code ? 875. Any precious snowflake or federal judge offended by my worthless comments should see a plastic surgeon to graft thicker skin, or wait and pray for stem cell therapy innovations to grow said thicker skin. Because the word "trigger" is a part of the phrase "Trigger Warning" and may trigger a repressed fear of firearms in some people, no trigger warnings shall precede my comments.

[Rhywun]

Wasn't this hoax a fried chicken-head a few years ago?

[Bobarian (Would Chip Her)]

The other other white meat?

Or is that racist?

[Mickey Rat]

Obviously, they did not provide with adequate amounts of ketchup.

[Pl?ya Manhattan.]

Delicious sea cows spotted off the coast of Los Angeles.

[RBS]

For some reason I was expecting fat chicks in bikinis.

[Pl?ya Manhattan.]

So, are you pleased or disappointed?

[RBS]

Yes.

[jesse.in.mb]

"sea cows" are already a thing.

[Pl?ya Manhattan.]

I'm going by what I'd actually want to eat.

[jesse.in.mb]

What about ride?

Trigger warning: Florida Woman story

[Muzzled Woodchipper]

:/

Sea cows are an actual thing (colloquially speaking they are manatees, though scientifically speaking it's a type of manatee that is now extinct), and it isn't yummy yummy tuna.

[Brett L]

I thought that was Chicken of the Sea.

[Pl?ya Manhattan.]

Yes. Sushi grade bluefin chicken

[lap83]

I thought manatees were sea cows

[Pl?ya Manhattan.]

DID I USE THE INCORRECT TERM??

[lap83]

Bro, do you even sea farm?

[Swiss Servator, Holzhacker]

*opera applause*

[Brett L]

Tropical Storm Bill update: The construction site will probably need to hire underwater welders if they want to work this week, but ai've been posted up at the bar aince 2:30 CDT. And will probably do the same to tomorrow. It's great to be staff and get paid a full day to get sent home early.

[Injun, nonviolent Wood Chipper]

Tropical Storm Bill

Are Hillary, Monica, Paula, etc. on the list of tropical storms this year?

[Pl?ya Manhattan.]

I thought you were Chem E or something like that... What's this construction business?

[Brett L]

Apparently, doing a turn in construction auditing is part of the fast-track for project engineering. For what they are paying, I'm willing to play along.

[Pl?ya Manhattan.]

When I finally retire to my tropical libertarian paradise, I'm going to need someone to build me a waterpark. I'll keep you on my short list.

[Brett L]

I am watching a shit-show. Engineering got behind. We have a civil superintendent who doesn't plan and a CM who engages in pigeon management. The guys who have done a bunch of these are trying to explain bery carefully a) what the construction side is doing wrong and b) how engineering could have helped.

[Catatafish & Woodchips]

Are you up Woodlands way, Brett? The Loop seemed to largely be spared but every time I checked the radar yesterday it seemed like there was a red band north of the city.

[Brett L]

South. Live in Pearland, work in La Porte. So far much rain, little inconvenience except for wnough mud to drown a pig at the work site.

[Fist of Etiquette]

California's Labor Commission has ruled that Uber drivers are employees of the company...

So the Labor Commission saves cab driver jobs by killing ride sharing jobs? Uber really needs to start greasing palms.

[Catatafish & Woodchips]

Or greasing their woodchippers.

[Jimbo]

Is that a THREAT??!?!!!

[Pl?ya Manhattan.]

California's Labor Commission

You know, we seem to have a lot of unelected commissions in this state.

[Rufus J. Firefly]

Dude, come to Quebec. More civil servants per capita than any jurisdiction on the continent including gigantic California.

[Pl?ya Manhattan.]

I'm not sure how your government works. Here, there's supposedly a constitution to be followed.

We have all sorts of commissions that do crazy shit with no accountability (the worst of them being the Coastal Commission).

[Rufus J. Firefly]

Same thing up here. Plus ou moins.

Only in, you know, joual French.

[Sudden]

Thanks to one of our own, we can now compete with you on poutine.

[Pl?ya Manhattan.]

I ain't driving to Hollywood.

[jesse.in.mb]

It's 2 blocks off the Hollywood and Vine Red Line station. You can have poutine, then take the Red Line back to Sudden's, steal his dog, and come home from DTLA.

[Injun, nonviolent Wood Chipper]

The Federal Communications Commission (FCC) is planning a $100 million fine against AT&T for slowing down data speeds for customers with unlimited data plans without telling them. AT&T says it will dispute the decision.

AT&T better have fine print in size 2 font to which the end users clicked "I agree".

FULL DISCLOSURE: As an obnoxious asshat who represents the blowhard stupidity of Reason magazine's commenting peanut gallery, I hereby declare that my comments are typical internet bluster and hyperbole, hardly valuable to public discourse, and must not be construed as "true threats" in "interstate or foreign commerce" in violation of federal statute 18 U.S. Code ? 875. Any precious snowflake or federal judge offended by my worthless comments should see a plastic surgeon to graft thicker skin, or wait and pray for stem cell therapy innovations to grow said thicker skin. Because the word "trigger" is a part of the phrase "Trigger Warning" and may trigger a repressed fear of firearms in some people, no trigger warnings shall precede my comments.

[Fist of Etiquette]

Making the media rounds today is a man who claims he was served up a fried rat at a KFC in Los Angeles.

He would have gone to Taco Bell if he wanted that.

[rts]

496 Uber cars seized amid crackdown on illegal pickups

For the greater good.

[Rhywun]

Agreed.

/NYC cab driver

*crickets*

/everyone else

[Trouser-Pod (The blowhard)]

"The fact that the TLC has seized such a staggering amount of Uber cars in such a short period of time only shows that more oversight is needed," said Tweeps Phillips Woods of the Committee for Taxi Safety, which reps taxi brokers and drivers who own their cabs.

Uh-huh. That should solve all the problems.

And, "Tweeps Phillips Woods"??? WTF?

[Rhywun]

more oversight is needed

Well yes, fucking over the public is hard work.

[Trouser-Pod (The blowhard)]

Well, when they believe it's for their own good, it's harder more difficult to maintain the erection.

[Injun, nonviolent Wood Chipper]

Awesome article by Charles C.W. Cooke.

What's Wrong with Teaching Women to Avoid Rape?

To ignore seemingly effective tactics because in an ideal world one wouldn't need them strikes me as being ridiculous and suicidal. Is this what feminism has become?

FULL DISCLOSURE: As an obnoxious asshat who represents the blowhard stupidity of Reason magazine's commenting peanut gallery, I hereby declare that my comments are typical internet bluster and hyperbole, hardly valuable to public discourse, and must not be construed as "true threats" in "interstate or foreign commerce" in violation of federal statute 18 U.S. Code ? 875. Any precious snowflake or federal judge offended by my worthless comments should see a plastic surgeon to graft thicker skin, or wait and pray for stem cell therapy innovations to grow said thicker skin. Because the word "trigger" is a part of the phrase "Trigger Warning" and may trigger a repressed fear of firearms in some people, no trigger warnings shall precede my comments.

[John]

Yes Mr. Cooke, that is exactly what it has become.

[Brett L]

Besides the fact that it works and would limit the number of victims?

[Muzzled Woodchipper]

Is this what feminism has become?

Yes. They'd rather have victims (funding and platform) than results. Next question.

[Fist of Etiquette]

WHY DON'T WE INSTEAD TEACH MEN TO NOT RAPE?

[Ein Barde und ein Holzhacker]

And suddenly then Warty rethinks his life.

[lap83]

"What's Wrong with Teaching Women to Avoid Rape?"

Because radical feminists are evil and don't actually want to teach women to avoid rape

[lap83]

I should say don't want to prevent rape, bah

[Juvenile Bluster]

New Jersey officer shoots his wife 3 times, in view of other officers, and with his child in the car. The other officers get the child out of the car, then watch the cop shoot his wife four more times. Then they hug him and pat him on the back after he's arrested.

At around 11:30 a.m., Asbury Park police officers responded to an unrelated car crash at Sewall and Ridge avenues, LeMieux said. Officers on scene then saw a 2012 black Volkswagen Jetta being driven by Tamara Seidle turn onto Sewall Avenue. Behind it, LeMieux said, was Phillip Seidle in a 2005 Honda Pilot.

The couple's 7-year-old daughter was in Phillip Seidle's passenger seat, he said.

Tamara Seidle crashed her Jetta into an unoccupied green Ford Focus, LeMieux said. At that time, LeMieux said, Phillip Seidle got out of his car, took out his .40- caliber Glock service handgun and fired "several" shots into Tamara's Seidle's car.

Phillip Seidle then put the gun to his head and started pacing around the area of Tamara Seidle's Jetta, LeMieux said.

LeMieux said officers were able to talk Phillip Seidle into handing over the couple's daughter. Once the daughter was in police custody, Phillip Seidle then fired more shots at Tamara Seidle through her front windshield, he said.

[Rufus J. Firefly]

Servish and protectish.

[Brett L]

I put this upon FB with the comment: "It seems like a strange time to abandon aggressive use of force rules. Are we sure procedures were followed?" So far the only person who comented was another anti-government radical.

[Injun, nonviolent Wood Chipper]

Only cops should be trusted with guns, dumb proles!

Men not in uniform/badge will shoot their wives and girlfriends at the first emotional outburst!

[Rhywun]

I swear that picture of him looks exactly like 80% of all cops in the NYC area.

[Rufus J. Firefly]

What's the status on the cops who let him kill her?

Cowardly, depraved assholes. To the last drop. Not fit to wear any color let alone blue.

[Juvenile Bluster]

LeMieux said Phillip Seidle was known to the officers on scene. When asked why officers didn't use force against Seidle while he fired off a second round of shots in police presence, LeMiuex said that's "under investigation at this point in time."

Translating from cop-speak, I'm guessing that means "We'll drag this out until you people forget about it"

[Rufus J. Firefly]

Was he under stress? I mean, these poor precious cops...I mean...

[Ein Barde und ein Holzhacker]

Jesus Christ. They're willing to shoot a kid with a toy gun in Cleveland without hesitation, but won't use deadly force against one of their brothers who is actively shooting someone.

Why are there still Americans that support these fucks?

[Muzzled Woodchipper]

Not fit to wear any color let alone blue.

I'd say they're fit to wear orange.

[Rufus J. Firefly]

Or black and white.

[Notorious G.K.C.]

Brown pants due to their cowardice, brown shirts due to their fascist tendencies.

[Whahappantomychipper?]

Actually, they are quintessential cops.

[Catatafish & Woodchips]

Well, obviously Officer Phillip Seidle wasn't a twelve year old boy at a park so...

[B. Woodrow Chippenhaus]

The standoff came to an end after police officers, on one side of Sewall Avenue, slid a small black box about the size of an individual cupcake box to Seidle, who was standing on the other side of the street, the witness said.

After looking at the object, he raised his arms over his head and walked out into the street to surrender, the witness said. The witness said police officers surrounded Seidle, who was "bawling his eyes out." While taking him into custody, some of the officers hugged him and patted him comfortingly on the back, the witness said.

Well, at least the cops handled an armed, emotionally unstable suspect just as if he were a regular citizen.

[Griffin3]

I thought they were kidding about the hugging. WTF was the shooter doing with a gun still in his possession ... can you imagine any scenario in any of the twelve worlds where a civilian is allowed to keep a loaded gun in his hand after shooting someone ... in front of police witnesses?

[Galactic Chipper Cdr Lytton]

"Hold up your badge, so they'll know you're a policeman."

[db]

...

...

what

...
...

[Pl?ya Manhattan.]

"a man who claims he was served up a fried rat at a KFC in Los Angeles."

A few years back, somebody claimed to have found a mouse in a can of Mountain Dew. It was proven to be scientifically impossibly. PepsiCo's own expert witness testified that if a mouse made it into a can of soda at the bottling plant, the mouse would have melted into gelatin by the time the can reached the store

[jesse.in.mb]

Mouse jello!

Probably still better than ham aspic

[Pl?ya Manhattan.]

Mouse jello, if it were real. But it was a scam.

Disclaimer: I would eat Mountain Dew Mouse Jello, no questions asked.

[Bobarian (Would Chip Her)]

What about McD's pink slime.

This is complete bull-shit, really.

[Pl?ya Manhattan.]

Yeah, snopes.com covered that.

Even so, I'd still eat it.

[Suthenboy]

I always thought it was pureed chicken lungs. I remember when Tyson was suing to have lungs reclassified as 'meat' so they could sell them instead of throwing them out.

My advice is to never eat formed meat of any king. It is made unrecognizable for a reason.

[Suthenboy]

Shit. That is a John level typo, isn't it? I must be developing a new talent.

[Pro Libertate]

King of meat.
I will always be
King of meat.

[Swiss Servator, Holzhacker]

*stands to begin thunderous applause*

[Pl?ya Manhattan.]

Are lungs really that big in a chicken?

I wouldn't mind them as a source of broth.

[Heroic Mulatto]

Are lungs really that big in a chicken?

Have you seen the size of their testicles?

[Trouser-Pod (The blowhard)]

Have you seen the size of their testicles?

Not a question expected from HM, per se, but to be found on H 'n' R?

Definitely.

[jesse.in.mb]

Not a question expected from HM

It's like you don't know him at all...

I'm surprised he didn't link the video of the chicken fucker.

Trigger warning: subtitles

[Crusty Juggler]

ugh. This is what Postrel meant when she called all of you puerile.

Great video.

[jesse.in.mb]

I'm putting you in conversation with the experiences of others and improving your empathy in a Confucian sense. Who could possibly call that puerile.

[Trouser-Pod (The blowhard)]

C'mon, now, Jesse...HM has great videos. However, at least when I'm around, his comments tend not to be testicle-based.

Admit it-you've been waiting for a good time to spring this on us, haven't ya?

[jesse.in.mb]

It was topical!

Also I feel like we have a very different impression of HM.

[Trouser-Pod (The blowhard)]

Also I feel like we have a very different impression of HM.

Well, I find him to be witty and charming. I don't know where that leaves you...

[jesse.in.mb]

Witty and charming, yes, but also unfettered by what others might consider "decency"

I find it a winning trait.

[Trouser-Pod (The blowhard)]

Hmmm...agreed.

[Swiss Servator, Holzhacker]

If I was to be stranded in exile on an island and could only take a few hearty folk with me, HM would definitely be one of them. And Warty.... For...defense.

[PapayaSF]

Don't be a wimp. Humans evolved eating much worse. A hot dog is just the modern industrial equivalent of using every part of a buffalo.

[2ndClassProle]

Efficiency of the Market

[Injun, nonviolent Wood Chipper]

Immigration restrictionist/nativist bitches about the H-1B program.

Replace all references to "H-1B workers" with "robots", and the passage sounds like one written by a neo-luddite progressive.

Bonus exercise: Count the number of times you see the words "should", "allowed", "required", and "illegal".

Op-ed: Hatch should fix H1-B visa program instead of expand it

The law should be changed so that it's illegal to replace U.S. workers with H-1Bs robots. Employers should be required to recruit and hire qualified U.S. workers before hiring an H-1B, and be required to pay their H-1B workers no less than the true local average wage for the jobs they fill installing robots. Requiring a higher wage would be even better, because it would ensure that employers use the H-1B robots only when they can't find local talent, and to hire highly skilled individuals install robots that complement and add value to the workforce, rather than as a way to cut labor costs.

[Medical Physics Guy]

I have the same refrain for USA friends who ask if it would be hard for me to settle in the UK. Hell no. America is the only country that sends away the most talented people who come to its shores. Far as I can tell, if you are a high-value worker pretty much any other Western country will let you come right in, set up your business (or whatever) there, start paying taxes, and settle down.

[jesse.in.mb]

I dunno, a lot of my Canadian friends have griped at how hard it is for skilled workers to get in and how easy it is for refugees. That could just be a perception problem, I don't really know the process there.

[Rhywun]

I have a friend who got into Canada after the US told him to shove off. It took a couple years is all. And he doesn't possess some "special" skill either.

[John]

True story. My neighbor is from Finland. His wife works for the world bank and he is some kind of a biologist. He is here legally on a VISA. It took him months to get a drivers' license because the State of Maryland wanted a social security number and wouldn't accept his VISA number because he wasn't a permanent resident. Meanwhile, the motor vehicle people told him with a totally straight face that if he were an illegal with a tax ID they could give him a license that day.

[Ein Barde und ein Holzhacker]

Does anyone on here have any theory on why are immigration system is designed to completely fuck over people who actually play by the rules and attempt to come here legally?

[Heroic Mulatto]

Because the people who play by the rules are the ones who can afford immigration lawyers. So why would they want to make it any easier for the ones who can pay?

[Rhywun]

There's no national consensus so we get the worst of both worlds.

[RAHeinlein]

Not at all. Try obtaining a VISA from Canada (even when moving within a given company). Germany is incredibly restrictive with Visas for highly skilled workers.

[Medical Physics Guy]

Well I stand corrected. I swear there were articles a few short years ago about Canada actively courting Asian talent to come to Canada and build the tax base. Maybe that was then, or something.

[Rhywun]

I thought all that crap was already in place for most visas and this program was put into place to work around it...? These exact same hoops have screwed over several immigrant friends of mine.

[Lord Humungus]

btw I haven't see Bo of the Esq. lately - but I'm not around on weekends or in the evenings. Is he still around sniffin' out the wicked? Or is he too busy working on his Tulpa law degree in ass-hattery?

[Pl?ya Manhattan.]

"He" popped in for a quick comment this morning, and was told to go fuck off.

Other than that, I haven't really seen him around.

[Restor-woodchipper-as]

In the Shikha post, of course.

[Pl?ya Manhattan.]

Tactical mistake. People are already going to be angry in Dalmia threads.

[Sevo]

We got Sam there, too, and Eddy, but Eddy didn't bother to tell us what words we couldn't say in his perfect state.

[RBS]

I think he showed up on a weekend thread last weekend. Or maybe that was Tulpa.

[Pl?ya Manhattan.]

Tulpa had a bad weekend. He took a beating.

[Ein Barde und ein Holzhacker]

Did he change his name to something woodchipper related?

[Stormy Dragon]

NJ Cop shoots his ex-wife's car. Other cops arrive, let him hang onto his gun long enough to allow him to shoot her again right in front of them. Their response to this is to give him a hug:

New Jersey Cop Charged With Murdering Ex-Wife in Front of Horrified Daughter and Witnesses With Cameras

[Juvenile Bluster]

I beat you to this a couple of minutes ago, and it still pisses me off to read this, even though I already read it.

[Restor-woodchipper-as]

And nothing else will happen, except a hero went home safe that night.

[Stormy Dragon]

Nope, "hero" being held in leiu of $2 million bail:

http://newyork.cbslocal.com/20.....-shooting/

[ant1sthenes]

justifiable use of force, totality of the circs, hth, smooches.

[iCarl]

A federal judge has ruled that Minnesota's sex offender treatment program, which locks up those convicted even after they've completing their sentences, is unconstitutional and violates the rights of the 700 people stuck in the program.

Now they can get out of treatment and finally live under an overpass like they've been dreaming of.

[Brett L]

That's Florida where the class-size requirements make it impossible for someone to live more than 1000 feet from a school and still ne able to walk to a bus stop to report to their PO.

[Muzzled Woodchipper]

Whatever you do, don't call it passing.

Comparisons to Dolezal are fraught, in part, because people of color faced this kind of peril and did so to gain rights they would have been otherwise denied. Black citizens were barred by law from top-tier public education, advanced employment, safe housing and the right to vote without restriction. Passing, though, wasn't a victory, per se.

You mean like the academic position she claims she was denied because she was white, or that all of her opinions would be minimized and/or invalidated in the liberal arts department(s) she teaches in because she is white (CHECK YOUR PRIVILEGE!!)?? Even if it is nonsense and her race had nothing to do with it at all, she clearly believed that she was passed over because she is white which seems enough of an incentive to NOT tell other potential colleges that she's white if she intends on getting a job.

Incentives matter. If academia is going to effectively tell whites that their opinion doesn't matter or is less important than those of minorities, academics will try and pass as minorities.

[Brett L]

Per a friend of mine, who expanded an earlier joke, if Orange is the New Black, is John Boehner passing as an oompa loompa?

[Pro Libertate]

Jimmy Carter should declare that he's always felt black and ask to be retroactively acknowledged (? la Bruce Jenner and the retroactive winning of the decathlon as "Caitlyn") as a black man since birth and, therefore, become America's first black president.

If we're going to be insane, let's be really insane.

[Muhammad Finkelstein (widget)]

California's Labor Commission has ruled that Uber drivers are employees of the company, not private contractors, which will likely significantly drive up the cost of the service.

This a shot across the bow of all 1099 work in California by declaring that anyone you hire to take you home from the bar at 1:30, fix your fence, polish your monocle, or watch your kids for an hour is *your* employee.

[Sevo]

And strangely, the cab companies in SF no longer 'employ' the drivers. For the last 10 years of so, the companies own the cars, lease them to the 'contract' drivers.

[Irish Says Enough Woodchippers]

Founder of UK Muslim Organization convinced Mossad agents sneak into his house at night and steal his shoes in an attempt to make him go crazy.

But he's not crazy, Mossad shoe stealers, no. Not crazy at all. Why are you looking at him like he's crazy and since when did Mossad start training their agents to look like gerbils and just watch him form inside that glass container?

Just watch him with their black Jew eyes, like dolls eyes.

[PapayaSF]

It's a Shoeish conspiracy! (But note: they only stole one shoe, the better to psychologically torment him.)

[ant1sthenes]

Hey, he could be the Muslim Hemingway.

[Sevo]

"Donald Trump wants Oprah Winfrey as his running mate."

See?
Who says daytime TV is just a fantasy world?

[Irish Says Enough Woodchippers]

Jeffery Sachs goes full Christ-prog on behalf of Commie Pope:

"In current political discourse in the United States, the unalienable rights of the individual have been transmuted into the modern doctrine of libertarianism. This doctrine not only puts individual rights on a pedestal above all others but also actively denies any claim by society to hold individuals to account for their behavior toward others, other than to respect their liberty. In today's America, the very idea of virtue has been privatized, individualized and increasingly commercialized. Each individual is at liberty to define virtue as he or she sees fit."

OHHHHH NOOOOOOOOOO!

[Sevo]

He's just pissed that his "End of Poverty" pitch ended up being total bullshit, so he'd trying to find someone to blame.

[Notorious G.K.C.]

I don't think Jeffrey Sachs is in the Curia.

[2ndClassProle]

In today's America, the very idea of virtue has been privatized, individualized and increasingly commercialized. Each individual is at liberty to define virtue as he or she sees fit."

Feature not a bug.

Disclaimer: I do not always play Fallout but when I do, I always shoot the slavers.

[Suthenboy]

Do you take them out back first?

[Medical Physics Guy]

Jeffrey Sachs is a candidate for world's greatest jerk. The guy basically views Africa as a convenient means to the end of displaying his personal greatness. None of his initiatives ever work, but he credits himself for lifting untold millions out of poverty, and on the rare occasion when a reporter fact checks him and finds out he hasn't, he goes after that reporter personally and in petty ways.

[Crusty Juggler]

Sachs works at Columbia. Everyone that is connected to Columbia is better than you.

[Swiss Servator, Holzhacker]

+1 Gem of the Ocean.

[Migrant Log Chipper]

Sachs/Borlaug, Borlaug/Sachs....I'll go with Norm. And he was a Luteran.

I was raised Roman Catholic but figured it out by the time I was 12 in '68 or so. I did go to a Catholic elementary school and it was by far the best in town, so the Church wasn't a total loss back then. yy

Now they seem to enable retards like this guy and ESB. They weren't bat shit crazy in those days.

[Rufus J. Firefly]

"In today's America, the very idea of virtue has been privatized, individualized and increasingly commercialized. Each individual is at liberty to define virtue as he or she sees fit."

What does this crap even mean?

"Each individual is at liberty to define virtue as he or she sees fit."

Er, yeah. So fucken yeah. Who should set the standard? You fuckhead? The Pope? Please.

These people.

[Suthenboy]

Wait, I thought libertarianism was just like Stalinism?

[jesse.in.mb]

Study: Nazi propaganda left life-long mark on German kids

Anti-Semitic propaganda had a life-long effect on German children schooled during the Nazi period, leaving them far more likely to harbor negative views of Jews than those born earlier and later, according to a study published Monday.

I guess this is obvious, but discussions of postwar Germany tend to emphasize how well they put the Jew-killing behind them.

"It's not just that Nazi schooling worked, that if you subject people to a totalitarian regime during their formative years it will influence the way their mind works," said Hans-Joachim Voth of the University of Zurich, one of the study's authors. "The striking thing is that it doesn't go away afterward."

[jesse.in.mb]

The article is packed with interesting information:

"The extent to which Nazi schooling worked depended crucially on whether the overall environment where children grew up was already a bit anti-Semitic," said Voth. "It tells you that indoctrination can work, it can last to a surprising extent, but the way it works has to be compatible to something people already believe."

and

There were some exceptions, said Ortmeyer, such as the `White Rose' in Munich and the `Edelweiss Pirates' in Cologne - youth resistance groups that formed despite the overwhelming Nazi propaganda.

Umm, I'd like to see a movie about Edelweiss Pirates please.

[Ein Barde und ein Holzhacker]

I wonder what effect the Progressive anti-white teachings at your local university and public schools is having on people raised on it. Is Rachel Dolezal available for comment?

[grrizzly]

You can watch Deutschland 83 instead.

Too bad I probably don't have Sundance TV.

[jesse.in.mb]

Didn't get a chance to read the full review, but the above-the-fold description looked interesting. I'm kind of curious how much it will remind me of Good Bye, Lenin!

[Migrant Log Chipper]

+1 Sound of Music

[Pl?ya Manhattan.]

See: Farfur the Mouse.

[jesse.in.mb]

This guy seems harmless...

[Pl?ya Manhattan.]

He was martyred in the final episode.

[Juvenile Bluster]

With those children, he thought, that wretched woman must lead a life of
terror. Another year, two years, and they would be watching her night
and day for symptoms of unorthodoxy. Nearly all children nowadays were
horrible. What was worst of all was that by means of such organizations as
the Spies they were systematically turned into ungovernable little savages,
and yet this produced in them no tendency whatever to rebel against the
discipline of the Party. On the contrary, they adored the Party and
everything connected with it. The songs, the processions, the banners, the
hiking, the drilling with dummy rifles, the yelling of slogans, the worship
of Big Brother--it was all a sort of glorious game to them. All their
ferocity was turned outwards, against the enemies of the State, against
foreigners, traitors, saboteurs, thought-criminals. It was almost normal
for people over thirty to be frightened of their own children. And with
good reason, for hardly a week passed in which 'The Times' did not carry
a paragraph describing how some eavesdropping little sneak--'child hero'
was the phrase generally used--had overheard some compromising remark
and denounced its parents to the Thought Police.

[Muhammad Finkelstein (widget)]

The link seem to have been redirected.

But I am certain that the current anti-antisemitism wave in Europe has nothing to do with Muslim immigrants and has all to do with 90yo Hitler kinder.

[jesse.in.mb]

Blargh, I double checked it yesterday too.

Let's try again.

[jesse.in.mb]

I'm kind of curious, is this going to be a thing? I link to something and you respond with "BUT MUSLIMS!"?

I mean, it's fine if it is, I'm just trying to get a read on where this commenting relationship is going.

[Swiss Servator, Holzhacker]

University of Zurich, eh?

*cheese eating grin*

[Stormy Dragon]

Lawn Care Equipment Watch - EU rules websites are legally responsible for user comments:

Estonian News Site Can Be Held Liable for Defamatory Comments, Court Rules

[John]

The goal is to stop all unrestrained expression. The reason why authoritarian and totalitarian governments hate free expression so much is that they depend on the people who hate them believing they are alone. Once everyone realizes that they are not alone and everyone hates the government, then the government is done. As long as no one can speak freely, however, then everyone assumes they are in the minority and are powerless to stand up.

There is a good saying about the internet; the biggest thing the internet did was cause people to realize no matter how perverse or outlandish their kinks or tastes are, they are not alone. The EU and their wannabes in this country want everyone who dissents to think they are alone and for everyone who might dissent to be bullied by the desire for popular approval into not doing so. Free expression on the internet on boards like this prevent that. And they hate it.

[Suthenboy]

"Free expression on the internet on boards like this..."

Perk up there. Be more...uh...chipper. The FCC is working on that. Oh, and some shitheel from the SDNY is on the case too.

[iCarl]

And apparently a cop got really emotional about the decision.

[Muzzled Woodchipper]

So this is why American progs say we ought to be just like Europe.

[bassjoe]

But aren't taxi cab drivers generally considered independent contractors even though they're just as controlled -- if not more so -- by the taxi companies? I'm...confused.

[Bobarian (Would Chip Her)]

Always look for...

The union label...

when questioning a decision...

made in California...

[Swiss Servator, Holzhacker]

*joins in singing*

[Irish Says Enough Woodchippers]

Idiot for the Washington Post recently argued we should stop teaching Shakespeare in English courses. Elizabeth Stoker Breunig is at least smart enough to realize that's a bad idea, but claims Shakespeare's okay for progressive reasons, ya'll.

"I agree with Dusbiber that Shakespeare should not be taught to the exclusion of writers of color or contemporary authors: There should be room in a person's education for encounters with a variety of texts. Dusbiber's suggestion that a wider sampling of global literature be introduced into high school curricula also seems right to me, as boundaries between cultures grow more porous and the world, in turn, continues to shrink. And she is doubtlessly correct that kids have a hard time connecting with Shakespeare compared to writers who work in our modern vernacular. But the alien distance of Shakespeare's world is precisely why he deserves a permanent place in the literary canon, especially if one is interested in inculcating a broad social and political imagination into young adults."

UGGGGGG, can't we just read books anymore? "*Bleep bloop* prog-bot does not comprehend. All literary endeavors must exist solely for political reasons and all that is alien to the progressive mindset is meaningless *Elizabeth Stocker Breunig whirrs gently before going dormant, her task fulfilled*

[John]

ESB is a sick fanatic. Everything in the entire world is about politics for people like her. That is what it means to be a totalitarian.

[Warty]

BUT SHE'S SO CUTE

[John]

I know. She is fucking adorable. So adorable that even her being evil is still cute.

[Warty]

Right? I want to her to tell me how great the communist Pope is and then give her a good spanking for how stupid she's been.

[John]

And you know she only knows douche bag feminist wanna be men. I bet she longs for a good spanking.

[Warty]

"Yes, you must give us all a good spanking! And then comes the oral sex!"

[Irish Says Enough Woodchippers]

THIS IS WHY VIRGINIA POSTREL HATES US

[Warty]

Roger Murtaugh: God hates me. That's what it is.
Martin Riggs: Hate him back. it works for me.

[John]

If wanting to give ESB a good spanking is wrong, I don't want to be right.

[Irish Says Enough Woodchippers]

We already know Breunig has read these comments, so you guys had better be careful she doesn't write one of her angry, spluttering posts about sexism about you.

She's already gotten into a hilarious tiff with Roosh V., so there is no one too unimportant for ESB to fight with.

[Warty]

All I'm saying is, if ESB had a camshow, I would buy her so many things on her Amazon wishlist.

[John]

If ESB did that Irish, it would be nothing but a cry for our attention.

[Heroic Mulatto]

Again, Postrel doesn't "hate" us; she is just very disappointed.

Again, just listen to that music while staring at her picture and tell me if you don't feel a twinge of regret.

[Warty]

We ruined 10 years of her life, HM. 10 YEARS WASTED

[Heroic Mulatto]

In 2005, it was customary to sell Reason editors to brothels in Dubai during times of financial difficulty. Virginia, please know that we did what we felt was necessary to secure a future for you and that we have never stopped thinking of you. One day, if fortune smiles upon us, we shall come back for you. Wherever you are, I hope you can see the Moon and when you feel its light, know that the same moonlight shines down upon us as we have never been truly apart as long as we share that connection. Sleep tightly, our princess, and we hope that you can forgive us.

[Swiss Servator, Holzhacker]

I name you an International Treasure, HM.

[Hey Nikki!]

My favorite part of the original column was that it was riddled with basic errors. She used "disinterest" in place of "lack of interest," in the one I remember for sure. Fucking idiot. And she's teaching people's kids English.

[iCarl]

She used "disinterest" in place of "lack of interest," in the one I remember for sure. Fucking idiot.

Huh?

disinterest
[ dis?int(?)rist ]
NOUN

the state of not being influenced by personal involvement in something; impartiality:
"I do not claim any scholarly disinterest with this book"
synonyms: impartiality ? neutrality ? objectivity ? detachment ? More

lack of interest in something:
"he chided Dennis for his disinterest in anything that is not his own idea"
synonyms: indifference ? lack of interest ? unconcern ? impassivity ? More

Powered by OxfordDictionaries ? ? Oxford University Press

[Warty]

The Oxford is the Cytotoxic of dictionaries. Disinterested and uninterested are not synonyms.

[iCarl]

Just cracked open my dead-tree Merriam-Webster's Concise Dictionary of English Usage, and it claims "Its primary use is to mean 'absence of interest'".

I'm gonna call bullshit. You're just Nicole's beta orbiter, anyway.

[John]

Take it up with the grammar monster

http://www.grammar-monster.com.....rested.htm

[iCarl]

*Throws respected usage dictionary in the trash*

[John]

Or actually, take it up with the OXFORD PRESS

The difference between disinterested and uninterested is often controversial. According to traditional guidelines, disinterested should never be used to mean 'not interested' (i.e. it is not a synonym for uninterested) but only to mean 'impartial', as in 'the judgements of disinterested outsiders are likely to be more useful'. Ironically, the earliest recorded sense of disinterested is for the disputed sense. Today, the 'incorrect' use of disinterested is widespread: around a quarter of citations in the Oxford English Corpus for disinterested are for this sense.

http://www.oxforddictionaries......interested

[Warty]

Is it claiming that disinterest is what someone who is uninterested has? That's dumb, then.

[iCarl]

Is it claiming that disinterest is what someone who is uninterested has? That's dumb, then.

It says:

Its primary use is to mean "absence of interest":

...seemed always to display a disinterest in current affairs [source]

She greeted Moses with marked disinterest [source]

The officers heard this with disinterest [source]

It goes on to mention that the sense you prescriptivists are claiming to be the "correct" one is also in use, of course.

[John]

According to traditional guidelines, disinterested should never be used to mean 'not interested' (i.e. it is not a synonym for uninterested) but only to mean 'impartial', as in 'the judgements of disinterested outsiders are likely to be more useful'.

I don't understand why that sentence is so hard for you to comprehend Carl. The rule is "disinterested" is not a synonym for "uninterested". The fact that the misuse is getting so common that it is impossible to stop, doesn't make it any less of a misuse.

[iCarl]

You could try waiting a moment for my to reply. I got to you.

[Rufus J. Firefly]

I like it better when we argue about....RUSH!

[Crusty Juggler]

Rufus, I prefer Mark Levin.

[iCarl]

Take what up with Oxford Press (who produced the definition I cited above, BTW)? How long did you spend reading the passage you just pasted?

[John]

Which part of According to traditional guidelines, disinterested should never be used to mean 'not interested' do you not understand. That passage is saying Nikki is right and that the misuse is becoming common.

[Crusty Juggler]

Disuse is becoming common. Disuse.

[Warty]

UNUSE.

[John]

No misuse. Today, the 'incorrect' use of disinterested is widespread: around a quarter of citations in the Oxford English Corpus for disinterested are for this sense.

According to traditional standards it is wrong.

[iCarl]

My apologies; I was projecting my own semi-descriptivism onto you and hence keying into Today, the 'incorrect' use of disinterested is widespread: around a quarter of citations in the Oxford English Corpus for disinterested are for this sense.

[John]

No worries Karl.

[jesse.in.mb]

The larger point is that you have an English teacher who is modeling word use that is going to strike language savvy folks as uneducated while complaining that reading is hard and we should toss out the western canon because dead white men.

Her students could pull out a dictionary and say "SEE! This is correct!" but the fact is her less well-read students are going to sound uneducated compared to their peers when it comes time for a job interview.

[Sevo]

Nope:
"Disinterested" = not a party benefiting from either option in a dispute.
"Uninterested" = simply not caring about an outcome.

[Mickey Rat]

Yes. The confusion is that each word is playing off of a different meaning of "interested", and it is easy to mix up which one goes with which meaning.

[jesse.in.mb]

'Disinterested' or 'uninterested'?

The difference between disinterested and uninterested is often controversial. According to traditional guidelines, disinterested should never be used to mean 'not interested' (i.e. it is not a synonym for uninterested) but only to mean 'impartial', as in 'the judgements of disinterested outsiders are likely to be more useful'. Ironically, the earliest recorded sense of disinterested is for the disputed sense. Today, the 'incorrect' use of disinterested is widespread: around a quarter of citations in the Oxford English Corpus for disinterested are for this sense.

Depends on how much of a stickler one wants to be, but disinterested is more likely to mean impartial.

[Warty]

Depends on how much of a stickler one wants to be

It depends. Does it support me? *checks* OK then. MAXIMUM STICKLERIFICIATION

[Cytotoxic]

Thanks for the pro-tip Warty I'll be sure to make Oxford my next dictionary if I ever buy one.

[John]

What Warty said. Disinterested is when I have no reason to favor one side or another, as in "disinterested observer". Uninterested means I don't care.

[Pl?ya Manhattan.]

Oh no you fucking didn't.

You're about to get hit by a Nikki tornado.

[John]

And taking their tax money to do it. That woman might be the dumbest person in America. Can you imagine having her teach your kid? What would you say at a parent teacher conference? I don't think I could keep from laughing in her face.

[Irish Says Enough Woodchippers]

She also outright admitted part of the reason she doesn't like Shakespeare is because it's hard FOR HER.

Quote:

"And not only do I dislike Shakespeare because of my own personal disinterest in reading stories written in an early form of the English language that I cannot always easily navigate"

Could you imagine a math teacher being like "look, let's just skip trigonometry. It's hard for me and I have trouble navigating it."

Or how about this:

"I am sad that we don't reach beyond our own often narrow beliefs about how young people become literate to incorporate new research on how teenagers learn, and a belief that our students should be excited about what they read ? and that may often mean that we need to find the time to let them choose their own literature."

Yeah, fuck it. Why should English teachers make kids read classics? If Johnny wants to read Dean Koontz, let's just fucking let him.

And while we're at it, why make kids do hard math equations? Why not let them choose their own math equations to solve, you know equations that are fun for them?

[John]

What is worse is that she doesn't mean a word of that. I bet reading adventure and war stories would excite the hell out of her male students. I somehow doubt she would be on board with incorporating The Longest Day into her curriculum.

[Certified Public Asshat]

Yeah, fuck it. Why should English teachers make kids read classics? If Johnny wants to read Dean Koontz, let's just fucking let him.

I agree with letting kids explore what interests them, although I suppose that is not what you meant.

[Irish Says Enough Woodchippers]

Oh, Nicole: I think you'll love this quote too:

"Shakespeare lived in a pretty small world. It might now be appropriate for us to acknowledge him as chronicler of life as he saw it 450 years ago and leave it at that."

This is hilarious because Shakespeare has been translated into like all languages and Akira Kurosawa (probably the best live action Japanese director) made a version of Macbeth (Throne of Blood) and King Lear (Ran). They're actually two of his best movies and Ran is one of the greatest movies of all time.

So Akira Kurosawa thought Shakespeare was good enough for a Japanese audience in the 1940's-1980's, but this teacher thinks Shakespeare is only a chronicler of life in Britain 450 years ago. Okay.

[Swiss Servator, Holzhacker]

Ran was enthralling.

[Derpetologist]

What is the difference between "they were uninterested" vs "they were disinterested"?

Someone told me once that I should say "if you are dissatisfied" instead of "if you are unsatisfied". I asked them to explain the difference and got nothing.

The prefixes un- and dis- are both always negative. How could they have different meanings?
Doesn't amoral mean the same thing as immoral?

[Irish Says Enough Woodchippers]

No. Amoral means lacking a moral compass whereas immoral means being actively bad.

Amoral could simply mean not caring, whereas immoral is positively bad behavior. Amoral is sort of standing aloof from any moral considerations whereas immoral is actively contradicting morality by behaving in a contrary manner.

[John]

Exactly. Amoral is lacking morals, as in not having them at all and just doing whatever feels good. Immoral means having a moral code but breaking it.

[Derpetologist]

OK. Still seems like hair-splitting to me.

For example, most people refer to rounds or cartridges as bullets even though the bullet is only part of the cartridge.

[Warty]

No, most people don't do that. Sloppy drunk rednecks do that.

[Heroic Mulatto]

dis- [is] always negative

That's not true. "Dis-" is a Latin prefix that means "apart". Someone who is disinterested is "apart" or "separated" from being interested in the topic. Kind of like dispassionate.

[Derpetologist]

OK, but it is mostly negative. "Dislike" is not a neutral word. "Disbelief" and "unbelief" are synonyms.

[Heroic Mulatto]

I have no quarrel with saying the prefix usually carries a negative connotation.

[Catatafish & Woodchips]

Wait, I thought "amoral" meant you lacked any morals and "immoral" meant you acted contrary to the moral code to which you ostensibly belonged?

[Catatafish & Woodchips]

Goddammit...refresh...(mumble, mumble)...

[Suthenboy]

True story:

I was in the produce aisle at the Winn Dixie in Natchitoches, Louisiana and saw two women approach each other out of the corner of my eye. I overheard that they were old acquaintances who had not seen each other for a long time. They greeted and then one asked the other what she was doing these days.

"I teaches english!"

[Derpetologist]

It was May in my 10th grade Algebra 2 class. One day, out of the blue, a girl blurts out "oh, I get it now- we're solving for x!"

Well, better late than never, I guess. Last I checked she worked as a bank teller.

[Swiss Servator, Holzhacker]

That gives me a moiety of hope for humanity, oh Deep Knowing One.

[Trouser-Pod (The blowhard)]

I was in...Natchitoches, Louisiana

Aww, shit, man. Sorry to hear that. I hope you've recovered since that...unpleasantness.

[Suthenboy]

I have and you are right in so many ways.

[Trouser-Pod (The blowhard)]

As someone who generally likes driving, and actually likes I-10 to some extent, I'll gladly take the much more boring I-20 in order to avoid Natchitoches.

One time was enough for me, and I can't wait for the meteorite impact that will hopefully take it out some day*.

*one can hope-my statement should not be construed as a claim to influence global warming meteorite strikes.

[Pl?ya Manhattan.]

A sergeant from my town's police department murdered someone there. He did a lot of bad things, actually.

[Swiss Servator, Holzhacker]

???!!!!

[Swiss Servator, Holzhacker]

I may have had a substantial amount of Rumchata, but do tell....I can always read tomorrow if I pass out in a pile of empty glasses....

[Brett L]

Line for line, Shakespare and the King James bible will make you a better reader of English than anything else. So please, skip that and read derivative works.

[Swiss Servator, Holzhacker]

+ a whole shitload.

An agnostic friend of mine once proclaimed that if he had naught else but the King James Bible, MacBeth and King Lear, he would have quotes for a lifetime.

[LynchPin1477]

writers who work in our modern vernacular

So, not Elizabeth Stoker Breunig, then.

[Swiss Servator, Holzhacker]

Zing!

[bassjoe]

The San Francisco office of the California Labor Commission is a bunch of fucking anti-business socialists. I know this from personal experience.

[Muhammad Finkelstein (widget)]

CA regulators are pro-business. Jerry Brown has unleashed a variety of user fees for businesses to do business in CA. Rather than being funded from scarce general revenue, CA regulatory agencies collect fees from the businesses they regulate. This year, there is a new $300 anti-up fee for all businesses that bid on (just bid on) public sector work. This comes from the Dept of Industrial Relations for the Dept to perform audited payroll without increasing their burden on the general revenue. It's a pay to play form of being pro-business. You don't pay, you don't play.

[Swiss Servator, Holzhacker]

That had two IL (new motto "will the defendant please rise") Governors in the Fed Pen...

[Warty]

We are creatures that should not exist

Just getting pumped for the absurdity in store for us in season 2. Don't mind me.

[Crusty Juggler]

The first three episodes are out to the reviewers, and their opinions have been negative. That makes me think that it is going to be pretty damn good.

[Warty]

As long as it's full of profane half-baked Philosophy 102 mumblings and tits, I'm 100% on board.

[Crusty Juggler]

When Alexandra Daddario's tits made their appearance I felt like I went through puberty again.

[Crusty Juggler]

When Alexandra Daddario's tits made their appearance I felt like I went through puberty again.

[Certified Public Asshat]

This, times 2.

[Muhammad Finkelstein (widget)]

"I got a bad taste in mouth", while sucking his thumb.

[Warty]

Speaking of things to get pumped for. Don't look back. You're not going that way.

[Derpetologist]

Saw Jurassic World last night and liked it. All I wanted was good dinos vs. humans mayhem and it delivered. $7 ticket, mostly empty theater, sticky floor, creaky seats, and no annoying previews. Perfect.

The only parts I disliked were the corporation bashing and the laser beams being visible despite no fog or smoke. Also, they ripped of that part from Aliens where the heartbeats of the soldiers are being monitored on a big screen. So many sci fi movies have recycled that bit.

Last week on my road trip, I made a point of driving through Wilmington DE. It is the worst city in America according to Parenting magazine. I figured anything soccer moms hate is bound to be fun. It sealed is place in the #1 spot because it has the most sex offenders per capita of any US city. Perhaps Joe Biden has been recruiting disciples there.

[Stormy Dragon]

For some reason, dinosaurs without feathers REALLY bother me.

[LynchPin1477]

You are dead to me.

[Derpetologist]

Sure, there were various dumb things:

-the 20 year-old night vision goggles that could still turn on
-2 boys magically fixing a jeep that hadn't moved for 20 years
-dino holograms- who would go look at holograms when there are real dinosaurs all around?
-much running in high heels
-Jimmy Fallon?

Of course, the biggest plot hole is how they convinced people to come back to the island after all the mishaps in the other 3 movies.

[waffles]

I think we live in a golden age of automobiles. Not necessarily because of the kind of vehicles available new, but the whole fleet of vehicles available to an enthusiast in North America. I have a 2014 Subaru Impreza and this week I bought a 1993 Mazda Miata, both 5 speed manuals. Compared to what my parents owned when they were my age and for comparatively the same price I have so much more car. And these cars just pile on miles and can easily be expected to run well to 200k miles.

The future of such automotive joy is questionable. The driverless car threatens to diminish the role of driving in everyday lives. Modern cars continue to blend together into an all-look-same soup due to safety and mpg requirements. The internal combustion engine powered 4 wheel vehicle is a display of all the merits of technology and I wonder if such freedom enabling machines have reached their zenith. Cars are spectacular. That is all.

[John]

Iprezas are a ridiculous amount of car for what they cost. And Miatas are every bit as fun as the traditional English sports cars and they actually run.

We are living in a Golden age of cars. To put it into perspective; the Ferrari 250 GTO won the GT class at Le Mans multiple times in the early 60s and surviving examples are some of the most expensive cars in the world. They went from zero to sixty in 5.1 seconds and had a top speed of 175 mph. That is impressive and they sound fabulous and are one of the most beautiful cars in the world. But a new Corvette or 911 or GTR would leave it for dead on the track. You can buy a car today that is faster than the winner of the GT class at LeMans was in 1963. That is mind boggling.

[waffles]

I bought the miata to compete in autocross. It is a street-legal go kart. I think the 90s brought us some important advancements that really got us to where we are today. Airbags and antilock brakes are what make our super powerful modern cars so safe. It was important for me to have those even as they were options in the miata in 1993. I spent last night just driving for fun again. A new vehicle always puts me in a state of awe.

If cars are going to continue to grow and develop in the future my bet is on it happening in China. Because what is the first thing a family buys when they reach the middle class? A car.

[John]

Cars were great until 1973. The emissions controls destroyed engines. They didn't have the technology to meet the standard. So the solution was to just detune the engines so they used less gas and ran worse and produced lower emissions. Cars sucked from about 1973 until the late 1990s, with very few exceptions. Then in the late 90s the automakers perfected fuel injection and computer controlled engines and cars became awesome again.

[waffles]

The previous owner of the miata provided me with a high flow catalytic converter and instructions on how to adjust the engine timing for maximum performance. Tuners will always beat regulations. They just have to detune every 2 years in CA for the smogsniffer.

[John]

And if the future of cars is in Asia, it is in South Korea not China. The Koreans are the new Japanese.

[waffles]

Japanese cars did rule the 80s and 90s. I can see Korean manufacturers taking command of the next decade.

[Swiss Servator, Holzhacker]

+1 mulling over a Kia...

[Warty]

We are living in a Golden age of cars.

That's the truth. I drive an indestructible little shitbox Mazda that I've put a total of about $100 worth of repair into, not counting standard maintenance, in 8 years and 100,000 some miles. Remember when you'd have to rebuild your engine every 30,000 miles because cars were shit? And I just got an Explorer and it's like a fucking robotic spaceship. We live in the future.

[Pro Libertate]

God bless Japan.

[Muzzled Woodchipper]

SURPRISE!! Obama thinks that "underfunding" the IRS is a huge mistake.

An appropriations bill for the budget year that starts in October also would increase the risk of successful cyber attacks on taxpayer information, and leave customer service at the current "unacceptable" levels by shortchanging those programs, Office of Management and Budget Director Shaun Donovan said in a letter to the House.

[2ndClassProle]

Customer Service is code for attacking your political rivals.

[Pro Libertate]

That's right. Defund that shit.

[PapayaSF]

Can't they just pull some people out of the Tea Party Persecution Department?

[Pro Libertate]

Look, America is stretched thin enough as it is because of the teathuglican sequester. What do you want, more bridge collapses? What kind of monstrous fiend are you?

[Muzzled Woodchipper]

How to justify a fraudulent study.

On Friday, The Washington Post reported that 20 percent of women who attended college since 2011 said they had been sexually assaulted, based on a national Washington Post-Kaiser Family Foundation poll of current and recent college students. Some readers have asked how the survey arrived at this statistic, and this post aims to address some of those questions.

But here's the kicker . . .

It is worth noting that Post reporters conducted follow-up interviews with more than 50 women and men who said they had experienced a completed, attempted or suspected sexual assault. Few of those cases suggested that there had been only casual physical contact misconstrued as something sexual.

How many more than 50? 500? 1000?

[Irish Says Enough Woodchippers]

There's also the issue of 'something sexual.' Kathy Young pointed out that someone kissing another person while drunk and then getting pushed away is lumped in with rape. Kissing someone is 'something sexual.'

If someone grabs your butt at a party it's 'something sexual' but shouldn't be lumped into a nebulous 'sexual assault' definition alongside forced penetration.

[Heroic Mulatto]

Thailand.

[jesse.in.mb]

Social collapse for everybody!

[Warty]

No fishnets or miniskirts??? My mental model of Thailand must be totally wrong.

[Sevo]

BTW, Musk's Hyperloop is so well thought out that, well:

"SpaceX Launches Hyperloop Contest That Will Culminate In Real Life, One Mile Test Track"
[...]
"In a plan that sounds a bit like a reality show, his rocket launch company, SpaceX, is holding a contest, challenging students and engineers to build passenger pods.
"People could compete, say, who could make the pod go the fastest, and maybe compete on other dimensions. I think that could be pretty fun," Musk said, according to NBC News."
http://www.inquisitr.com/21744.....est-track/

I think it must have sounded really neat after a couple of hits.

[waffles]

This sounds totally real and not at all like a pipe dream.

[Pro Libertate]

Please, please, please do not taint the very wonderful and respectable SpaceX with, well, anything not involving cheaper access to orbit. Thanks.

[Suthenboy]

As far as I can tell Musk is just a rent seeker.

[Pro Libertate]

He's like the Two-Face of entrepreneurs.

[Brett L]

But like Charles Lindberg, still delivers more for the government's money than a goverent contract.

[Muzzled Woodchipper]

I'd imagine this will make some people very mad.

In recent years, however, as the data on career outcomes improved and students and parents could search salaries of graduates by school and major, on web sites like Payscale and state databases like the one Virginia runs, did higher-education leaders suddenly begin to think that earnings were too narrow of a measure. After all, they could no longer ride the coattails of national averages, which obscure the value of individual schools and make everyone look good.

For decades universities have been touting the economic value of a college degree. Now that people can search the exact value of specific degrees, university rhetoric falls to shit because only certain schools and certain degrees were actual contributors to the economic value of college degrees.

They simply don't want the general public to know that a degree in Griefer Studies (pick one, it doesn't matter) from State University isn't the college degree they were talking about when they kept telling everyone that a college degree holds incalculable economic value.

[Swiss Servator, Holzhacker]

+1 hitting my knees in thanks my sons loves math, languages and programming Java, C++, etc.
My daughter may be your barrista Somme day....

[Swiss Servator, Holzhacker]

Wow...that is John level autocorrect.

[Muzzled Woodchipper]

Government run transport is inefficient and dangerous to the general public. News at 11.

[Irish Says Enough Woodchippers]

Guys, I don't think that grammar war up above went on long enough. Any other grammar questions you want to fight over?

What's the difference between effect and affect, amirite?

[Warty]

Bemused. Its "correct" meaning is nonsensical and wrong, and was in fact given to it by the original dictionarian who misunderstood what the poet who invented it was trying to say. Discuss.

[iCarl]

I find that meaning bemusing.

[Irish Says Enough Woodchippers]

How about 'factoid' which everyone claims means a 'small fact' but actually means a commonly asserted "fact" that isn't actually true.

Which means that the definition of the word factoid is in fact a factoid.

[Warty]

Epicenter.

[jesse.in.mb]

I seem to remember there being a media component to factoid, like it was a fake fact spread by the media or something.

[Warty]

Factoid means the context-free little facts that you see in places like USA Today. They're for people who are cripplingly ignorant and want to hide it the easy way.

[Crusty Juggler]

Warty, hater of informative pie charts.

[iCarl]

Today's factoid: Warty only wishes he had hands like this.

[Irish Says Enough Woodchippers]

Normal Mailer invented the term in 1974 and he used it to mean 'a false fact that is believed to be true because of its appearance in the media.'

[jesse.in.mb]

Ah good, I feel a little less like a crazy person now.

[iCarl]

You're welcome.

I usually stay out of those things, much less instigate them.

[Crusty Juggler]

Whom

[grrizzly]

I always use "whom" when it's appropriate and look down at those who don't.

[Warty]

English is much better with more than one second-person pronoun. Bring back thee, thou, and ye.

[Muzzled Woodchipper]

Fuck that. Bring back proper verb conjugations of Old English and omit the pronoun altogether.

[db]

Yinz speak truth.

[Swiss Servator, Holzhacker]

*narrows gaze*

[Rufus J. Firefly]

Then and than!

Laugh. I had to sit through a meeting where the boss had to explain the difference to a bunch of retards wondering why they needed to know!

[Warty]

Only assholes say "shall". Discuss.

[Heroic Mulatto]

Only assholes say "shall". Discuss.

"Shall" implies obligation in a way that "will" doesn't, you muddle-headed nestling of a scullery maid!

[jesse.in.mb]

Bah, I'm going to have to dig out my Fowler when I get home, but I seem to recall him not giving a shit.

[iCarl]

What if they use "You shall not pass!" in a funny meme? ( ?? ?? ??)

[Muzzled Woodchipper]

http://www.macademic.net/images/YSNPm.jpg

[Rufus J. Firefly]

Real assholes say 'basically'.

[Warty]

True dat.

[iCarl]

True dat.

Asshole.

[iCarl]

Also, I think you should meet Candy Girl (Grrl?).

[waffles]

Basically.

[Pro Libertate]

Well, accurately speaking assholes, I guess. I wouldn't expect such imprecision from a time-traveling PhD candidate in a legitimate discipline.

[Warty]

Legitimate, he says.

[Pro Libertate]

Well, in the hierarchy of doctorates, yours ranks higher than mine, which in turn is fifty orders of magnitude more legitimate than the education PhD.

[Warty]

Well, accurately speaking assholes

And didn't I already say "lawyers"?

[Pro Libertate]

What, you think lawyers speak accurately?

[Swiss Servator, Holzhacker]

Hahahahaha!!!!!

*rolls up JD and eats it*

[Crusty Juggler]

I would dangle ESB's modifer, that's for sure.

[Heroic Mulatto]

What's the difference between effect and affect

There is nothing to argue about. There is nothing ambiguous about the proper usage of both. There are only those ignorant of each word's usage.

[iCarl]

What's the difference between effect and affect, amirite?

That effects to affect my affect negatively.

[Crusty Juggler]

I'd split her infinitive.

[All-Seeing Woodchipper]

Now that is what I call begging the question.

[Brett L]

Effect is the result of an action. Affect is a verb that denotes creating some measurable difference in a process. Unless you are talking about a person's affect.

[John]

I knew it was likely an inside job.

But some of the security issues at OPM fall on Congress' shoulders?the breaches of contractors in particular. Until recently, federal agents carried out background investigations for OPM. Then Congress cut the budget for investigations, and they were outsourced to USIS, which, as one person familiar with OPM's investigation process told Ars, was essentially a company made up of "some OPM people who quit the agency and started up USIS on a shoestring." When USIS was breached and most of its data (if not all of it) was stolen, the company lost its government contracts and was replaced by KeyPoint?"a bunch of people on an even thinner shoestring. Now if you get investigated, it's by a person with a personal Gmail account because the company that does the investigation literally has no IT infrastructure. And this Gmail account is not one of those where a company contracts with Google for business services. It is a personal Gmail account."

[John]

Some of the contractors that have helped OPM with managing internal data have had security issues of their own?including potentially giving foreign governments direct access to data long before the recent reported breaches. A consultant who did some work with a company contracted by OPM to manage personnel records for a number of agencies told Ars that he found the Unix systems administrator for the project "was in Argentina and his co-worker was physically located in the [People's Republic of China]. Both had direct access to every row of data in every database: they were root. Another team that worked with these databases had at its head two team members with PRC passports. I know that because I challenged them personally and revoked their privileges. From my perspective, OPM compromised this information more than three years ago and my take on the current breach is 'so what's new?'"

http://arstechnica.com/securit.....-official/

[tarran]

TOP MEN!!!!!!!

[MJGreen - Docile Citizen]

They gave root access to people in China.

I'm an anarchist, and even I can't believe how incompetent these bureaucrats are.

[Muzzled Woodchipper]

Removal of kids from KY homes near an all-time high.

The Courier-Journal reports that there are currently 8,208 children who have been removed from their homes and placed in foster or residential care. Five years ago, that number was about 7,000.

Teresa James, commissioner of the agency that oversees child protection in Kentucky, says that statistic is close to an all-time high.

Jefferson County Family Court Chief Judge Paula Sherlock says much of the blame for the trend lies with the public's growing use of heroin.

Of course no one saw that coming with drug warriors doing everything they can to make pills hard to get (even if you need them).

But don't you dare tell statists that laws have unintended consequences.

[John]

So the addicts are now on Mexican shoe scrappings rather than the pharmaceutical stuff. And those of us who are not addicts can't get any sort of pain pills even when we need them.

But the Drug warriors and the DEA care so fucking much.

[Muzzled Woodchipper]

Yep.

[tarran]

That's why, when I rise to power, every motherfucking member of the DEA, from boss to janitor scrubbing toilets is getting the fucking boats!

I write, of course, hyperbolically, wishing a painful death for a group of horrible law-breaking public officials on whom I am entitled to comment, purely as hyperbole, on a matter of public concern under my First Amendment rights to free speech and to petition the Government for redress of grievances, in much the manner that President Obama joked about murdering boys who took his daughters out on dates (except of course for the fact he has murdered several people to my none and thus his threats are thus far more plausible). No woodchippers were activated in the writing of this comment.

[Swiss Servator, Holzhacker]

My 86 year old dad, with a bad back and having just has his gall bladder out, oh...and he is an M.D.,...gets to go back and begfor pain meds every so often. I, most unChristianly, want to harm someone.

[Muzzled Woodchipper]

From the story:

Kentucky's heroin surge reflects a national trend. The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention reports a 55 percent increase in heroin-related overdose deaths from 2000 to 2010. And as in Kentucky, four national studies show heroin users first abused prescription narcotics.

Still, state and federal officials don't believe crackdowns on prescription drug abuse are solely responsible for the rise in heroin ? and they say they have no intention of curbing their battle against pill abuse.

Fucking idiots. And the response?

Kentucky Attorney General Jack Conway said the state's pill crackdown "played some role but it's not the whole story."

"It's logical they would turn to heroin. Both are opiate painkillers," Conway said. "I would not back down one iota on the prescription drug crackdown. But sometimes, it feels like a game of Whac-a-Mole. You get one drug under control and another pops up."

DRUG WAR HARDER!!!

[Juvenile Bluster]

Kentucky Attorney General Jack Conway said the state's pill crackdown "played some role but it's not the whole story."

"It's logical they would turn to heroin. Both are opiate painkillers," Conway said. "I would not back down one iota on the prescription drug crackdown. But sometimes, it feels like a game of Whac-a-Mole. You get one drug under control and another pops up."

That is one of the least self-aware statements I've ever seen.

[Crusty Juggler]

You know, they did an entire television series about this situation. It was called Justified.

[Muzzled Woodchipper]

Thanks for putting me back in my deep depression over the ending of that show.

[Crusty Juggler]

I doubt John Conway ever dug coal with anyone.

[Muzzled Woodchipper]

Bad wording.

The deep depression from the series having ended.

[Derpetologist]

A few months ago, I saw a news report about a driver who killed a pedestrian. The driver was fleeing from the cops and was supposedly high on pain killers and they found pills in the car. He had previous arrests for drug crime. Most of the report was about the pedestrian who was in his 20s and was on his way to night school. A sympathetic victim if there was ever one.

It was great propaganda for the Drug War. "See, if we don't arrest the users, they'll get high and run people over!"

The reality, in my view, is that bad things will happen no matter what the laws are or how strictly they are enforced. A free society will not be paradise; it's just the highest peak in the landscape of good and evil.

[Suthenboy]

Perhaps if Drughead were not being chased by the police the kid would still be alive.

[Juvenile Bluster]

Perhaps worse than the story I quoted above, we have this, from South Caroline. Wherein a deputy shoots his wife in the head, claims it was an accident, and is only charged with involuntary manslaughter.

Officers said that when they arrived at the couple's North Augusta house Saturday night, Deputy Matthew Blakley ran outside with blood on his hands, identifying himself as a deputy and telling them he had shot his wife in an accident.

Officers found his wife, Candace Blakley, 24, in a bathtub bleeding from the head. A second man with bloody hands said he tried to give her CPR, but she was already dead, according to the police report.

A broken wedding ring, an M4 rifle ? commonly used in the military ? and a spent shell also were found in the bathroom, according to the police report. Several other guns also were found throughout the house.

North Augusta police turned the scene over to the State Law Enforcement Division, and an agent charged Matthew Blakey, 23, with involuntary manslaughter. The charge accuses Blakley of showing reckless disregard to the safety of the person killed. It carries a maximum sentence of five years in prison but doesn't require jail time with a conviction.

[db]

The.broken wedding ring tells the story.

[Pl?ya Manhattan.]

Wedding rings break all the time.

*looks around nervously*

[Brochettaward]

My M4 goes off all the time when I take it into the bathroom with me.

[Swiss Servator, Holzhacker]

I want an M4...I have, literally, trusted my life to one...and I am still here...

[Galactic Chipper Cdr Lytton]

The sad part is, it probably is an M4 because it's his department issued rifle. Now what it's doing in the bathtub instead of in his patrol car, that would an unasked followup question.

[curtrangecroft]

I make up to $90 an hour working from my home. My story is that I quit working at Walmart to work online and with a little effort I easily bring in around $40h to $86h? Someone was good to me by sharing this link with me, so now i am hoping i could help someone else out there by sharing this link... Try it, you won't regret it!......
http://www.freelance-cash.com

[Paul.]

Would that make me an 'employee'?

[Swiss Servator, Holzhacker]

+1099

[Paul.]

California's Labor Commission has ruled that Uber drivers are employees of the company, not private contractors, which will likely significantly drive up the cost of the service.

GREAT SUCCESS!

[Paul.]

Oh, and so much for your 'sharing economy', millennials. Welcome to the corruption and protection racket known as "government".

[Swiss Servator, Holzhacker]

^THIS^

[jesse.in.mb]

Seriously guys? You're going to leave it at 399?

*fixes that*

[John]

The golden age isn't going to last much longer. The fucking AGW fanatics and their carphobe toadies like Ron Baily are forcing the automakers to meet such ridiculous emission and safety standards that the engines are going to start sucking again.