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Video Games

Another Right-Winger Complains About Violent Video Games. Oh Wait, It's a Feminist.

The only game that matters to the culture war is the zero-sum game.

Scott Shackford | 6.15.2015 4:45 PM

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Anita Sarkeesian has become central figure of a video game firestorm over her feminist calls for changes to the industry to better represent women in games and to treat women better within the industry itself. There's been a backlash, and a backlash against the backlash and then there's GamerGate, which these days appears to be an argument about what GamerGate is actually about and both sides accusing each other of harassment and very little discussion about games.

While those folks all yell at each other on Twitter and try to get each other's accounts suspended, the game industry spins on. This week is the annual E3 Electronic Entertainment Expo, where the industry gets together to announce and promote upcoming games (typically sequels of previous games). It's full of glitzy previews and talk shows and product demonstrations. It's like Fleet Week for video games or something.

Last night the presentations began, and software company Bethesda (best known for their Elder Scrolls and Fallout series) previewed their many offerings. Here's what Sarkeesian tweeted about a new installment of the game Doom, the iconic game that pretty much helped launch the entire genre of first-person shooters:

A demonic invasion of Mars is also not considered "normal."
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First of all, this all sounds like something that would come out of the mouth of right-wing moral video game panic alarm siren Jack Thompson (which Ken "Popehat" White has noted on Twitter. Correction: The observation was actually from Patrick, not Ken.).

Time for an anger management minigame!
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But here's what concerns me about what Sarkeesian is saying. It doesn't bother me at all that Sarkeesian and her allies are pushing for better representation of women (or others) in video games. There's actually plenty of evidence to show that gamers will (and do) support games that present women in positions of strength and control and are not treated as sex objects and/or victims. It also doesn't bother me that she wants games that aren't drenched in violence and bloodshed. More and more game companies have awoken to the possibility of alternatives. Indeed, one of the games promoted by Bethesda in this very conference, Dishonored 2, will allow players to complete the storyline without killing anybody. (She responded to Dishonored 2 by complaining that the player will get to choose between a male and female lead rather than just having a female lead)

These tweets indicate exactly why there's such a backlash against her. This is culture war as a zero-sum game. These tweets present the idea that either we have violent games or non-violent games, not both (or some gradiation of "acceptable" violence). These are not tweets that present video game culture as a marketplace where consumers call for games that they enjoy and the market responds with a selection of choices to meet everybody's entertainment desires. This is specifically a call for Sarkeesian's game demands to be met, while the demands of other gamers are to be ignored or rejected and their desires attacked.

And this is where I part ways with Sarkeesian's efforts, and why I generally don't have much to say about the whole GamerGate culture war.  The game industry is big. It is humongous. It can make games that appeal to just about everybody. But they are not going to be the same games. Sarkeesian presents a false choice, that there are right games and wrong games, rather than acknowledge that games, like movies, books, and television shows, are all for different audiences. Furthermore, she actually doesn't want games to appeal to certain audiences, and that's exactly why this culture war spins on.

Doom can exist in the same world as Dishonored 2. It is not an either/or prospect. Don't complain that Game X isn't what you want it to be. Push for a Game Y that does meet your entertainment desires.

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  1. Mr. Flanders   10 years ago

    She's just as spiteful as the people she condemns. At this point she's just trying to grab attention - so we should stop writing articles about her, mmkay?

    1. Hyperion's Statist Chipper   10 years ago

      I'm really sure as many people knows who she is or cares about what she says, as say, people who enjoy playing GTA 5, Witcher 3, etc, etc, etc.

      The only reason to write a story about a person like this is to laugh them to scorn.

      1. R C Woodchipper   10 years ago

        Bingo.

        These people deserve clickbait headlines:

        "You Won't BELIEVE What We Overheard . . . ."

        And the most withering scorn possible, throughout the body of the article.

    2. Red Rocks Rockin   10 years ago

      The standard MO of feminist gamers--rather than start up their own video game companies to create feminist-friendly games, whine about misogyny and expect male gamers to fix the problem for them.

      Of course, as with most modern feminists there's no satisfying them, so the best thing to do is treat them like nonpersons when they start whining. No matter what concessions are made, it's not about achieving goals, it's about exercising power and therefore insincere. Tell them to fuck off and encourage your friends and relatives to do the same.

      1. ThisWoodchipperKillsFascists   10 years ago

        When you pay the damegeld, you never get rid of the dame!

        1. Bill Adams   10 years ago

          But it's still the white man's burden, apparently.

      2. MDBritt   10 years ago

        "It's not about achieveing goals, it's about exercising power" - Exactly!

        Illustrated by this quote from the article: "She responded to Dishonored 2 by complaining that the player will get to choose between a male and female lead rather than just having a female lead."

        To narcissists, it is always about them, never about the topic they are presumably discussing.

  2. Hyperion's Statist Chipper   10 years ago

    But here's what concerns me about what Sarkeesian is saying

    Really, you're concerned about what this person is saying?

    This person is a loon and a fucking nobody, and no one gives a fuck about what she has to say. The video game industry is a giant steamroller, rolling over this piss ant and no even knows the piss ant existed.

    her allies are pushing for better representation of women (or others) in video games

    There's already plenty representation of women in video games. And the boobs are getting better!

    1. RFID   10 years ago

      That "fucking loon" is probably the most powerful voice in the industry at this point in time. She has the support of all major video game sites and the msm behind her. Everyone in the media will teflexibly believe everything she says and eill reflexibly disbalieve anything her opponents say. Any opinions she has will and are reported as fact. I do not share your optimism.

      1. TChipperman   10 years ago

        She has the support of all major video game sites and the msm behind her

        Mmmm, that seems a bit of an exaggeration. She certainly has the support of the SJW crowd and its reflexive supporters, but what matters is who is buying what video games. And the Bethesdas of the world only care about their customers when it's all said an done, and they are delivering.

        You think Rockstar Games gives a flying fuck what she has to say?

        1. Hyperion's Statist Chipper   10 years ago

          Spot on.

        2. Spaceno42   10 years ago

          Or CD Projekt RED maker of the Witcher 3

          1. Agammamon   10 years ago

            Or BGS - who's upcoming FO4 features a *gasp* explicitly hetero (or at least bi) protagonist and the forums are blowing up with gay men bitching that the PC can't be gay like them.

            Personally, I don't like the voiced-with-back-story protagonist in this game, but if you're a gay man who's played all three Witcher games along with Deus Ex: HR and Batman, you don't get to complain about a game having a protagonist that boned a chick one upon a time but is in no other way not allowed to be homosexual in the rest of the game.

        3. Pan Zagloba   10 years ago

          After GTA V got pulled out of Target and K-Mart in Australia, they may have to start listening. And if not them, 2K. So expect some juicy consulting fees in Anita's future for completely unrelated project, we swear.

          1. TChipperman   10 years ago

            This was as of December 2014

            Revenues and profits up for Grand Theft Auto developer Rockstar North

            They do not have any fucks to give.

          2. Agammamon   10 years ago

            Let 'em pull it.

            PC god's have got Steam (and other digital distribution platforms) and the console peasants have Gamestop (if they *have* to buy a disk) and their own locked-down DD platforms.

            Plus, its *Australia* - punitive taxes on top of ridiculous national censorship means that most Aussie gamers are either fudging their online locations for digital purchases or simply flat-out pirating games.

            1. Pan Zagloba   10 years ago

              I'm just saying, next time it might be simpler all around to drip, say, $50K to her non-profit, and she will make sure the boycott doesn't go as far.

              1. Agammamon   10 years ago

                maybe - but given the pushback against her (and the rest of the SJW crowd) from the mainstream gamers I don't think she really has any pull *except* among the SJW's who don't game.

                So she can make a lot of noise and scare the B&M retailers - who make up a negligible percentage of revenue. Mostly grandma picking up (the knock-off) for a kid's present.

                The stores sell a lot of consoles, not so much actual software.

        4. RFID   10 years ago

          Publishers will care, if it starts generating negative reviews. Look at, say, the 8/10 (for those not familiar with video game reviews, an 8/10 is pretty close to a bad score) review for The Witcher 3 on Polygon. About 1/3 of that review is talking about how sexist the game is -- I predict we will see more of this in the future. Now I don't think that CD Projekt RED will care about this; it looks like they are self-published. And yeah, maybe Rockstar wouldn't care either. But if EA or Activision start seeing bad reviews coming from games journalism sites based on this horseshit I wouldn't put it past them to tell the devs to tone things down for the SJWs.

          1. SimonD   10 years ago

            I agree with this. Also, don't forget that the people in charge of the business decisions in a lot of these companies aren't gamers. They are Ivy League business school types, so they'll be sympathetic to Ms. Sarkeesian's SJW horse hockey anyway.

        5. MarkLastname   10 years ago

          Rockstar games may not, but government officials do. She would have natural allies in many lefty senators; hell, Hilary Clinton was a noted anti-video game politician in her own career as senator. These people have the power, through government and media, to do the same thing to the videogame industry that they've done to so many others.

          That's the idea I think; they want to circumvent the market by generating bad publicity with CNN, MSNBC, etc., and make, if nothing else, the threat of regulatory actions so as to force the hands of companies they don't like. Not like state overpowering market is unheard of.

      2. Hyperion's Statist Chipper   10 years ago

        Well, it's quite apparent to me, mostly playing Witcher 3 and GTA 5 lately, that the game companies DO NOT give a fuck about what this person thinks of violent video game content.

        the most powerful voice in the industry

        So what game company is she a lead developer or game designer at? How many game companies does she own? How many games does she buy?

        Can't agree with you. The most powerful voice in the industry are the gamers who pay money for games. And the game companies sure as hell care a lot more about what they think than some dipshit like this screeching harpy.

        1. Restor-woodchipper-as   10 years ago

          100% this. I am also quite sure that the 20 million people (or however many it is) that buy CoD or GTA on each iteration don't even know who this person is. She is a nobody.

          1. Hyperion's Statist Chipper   10 years ago

            Also, gamers do not follow video game sites or gaming media much. They might, but they know what they want and they read reviews by other gamers and watch youtube videos to decide what games to buy. Game sites and media will have very little influence over this.

            Also, gamers don't just buy games today, to an ever increasing degree, they actually fund them.

            To think that one person can have much influence over something this huge is quite laughable.

        2. Brendan   10 years ago

          This is why I loved reading her attempts at shaming Rockstar for their GTA V promos; something along the lines of 'This is an example of how not to promote a game'.

          I guess it would be mansplaining to point out that GTA V sold around 11 million copies upon release, with Wikipedia reporting 52 million copies as of May 2015.

          Yep, they surely botched their marketing and will make sure to consult Sarkintosh for the next game.

      3. Dan Bongard   10 years ago

        "That "fucking loon" is probably the most powerful voice in the industry at this point in time. She has the support of all major video game sites and the msm behind her."

        Where gaming is concerned, having the "major video game sites" behind you is like having the Girl Scouts behind you. Nobody gives a crap what they have to say about video games. The gaming press has never been more than a distributed marketing arm for the major game labels. Game players know this.

        1. Agammamon   10 years ago

          Especially nowadays.

          Its become *painfully* obvious that the major gaming review sites are biased towards developers.

          It may simply (and probably is) a question of maintaining access (like political press in the MSM) but most any AAA title will see little but articles hyping it as the NBT until release - then when it proves to be mediocre, nothing. See 'The Order 1888' as a prime example.

          A complete clusterfuck like Aliens: Colonial Marine wasn't noticed by the major gaming press until after release, *then* they jumped in with both feet trashing it.

          They simply take what they're fed by developers and publish it as the gospel truth. Not any different than a reporter taking a politician/police press release and re-wording it without any checking of fact or assumption.

          1. Idle Hands   10 years ago

            That game was an abomination.

      4. Zeb   10 years ago

        I really don't know a lot about video games or the industry. But this seems like some nonsense. Video game makers will make what people want to buy. Which includes lots of violent games and all the other things she hates. "All the major video game sites" may give her some lip service, but how major are they if they aren't in line with most of the video game consuming audience? The people who are interested in the games still seem to be ignoring her.

  3. GILMORE, LVL20 Blowhard   10 years ago

    "Anita Sarkeesian has become central figure of a video game firestorm over her feminist calls for changes to the industry to better represent women in games and to treat women better within the industry itself her own self promotional campaign"

    redundant, i know. but AS et al care nothing about 'games', and are simply porting their standard-issue feminist "complain until you get paid" M.O. into a new market area. If it wasn't video games, it would be some other media, and the same complaints. "Troubling" "Problematic" "Concerning". LOOK AT ME LOOK AT ME!

    1. R C Woodchipper   10 years ago

      Yeah, anybody who complains that DOOM is violent is just trolling for page views.

    2. Episiarch   10 years ago

      She is a professional complainer. And she certainly isn't the first. But no matter what, she will always find something to gripe about, because that's literally her career. No one listens to her for any other reason that to be pointed at something in the KULTUR WAR shit to whine about. She's a weathervane for kvetching about shit. She has no other purpose.

      1. Hyperion's Statist Chipper   10 years ago

        And no influence over gamers, at all.

        1. MarkLastname   10 years ago

          Idk, never underestimate the power of professional complainers. Just look at the 18th amendment.

      2. Red Rocks Rockin   10 years ago

        Yeah, it's pretty telling how seriously she took those death threats against her by pimping for more money in her tweets rather than calling the police immediately.

    3. buybuydandavis   10 years ago

      "her own self promotional campaign"

      Ding! Ding! Ding!

      We have a winner.

      Dogmatic ideologies like Progressivism attract the Elmer Gantries of the world who will separate the believers from their dollars.

      I like her in the same way I like Jimmy Swaggart - respect for an artful con.

  4. GILMORE, LVL20 Blowhard   10 years ago

    "I am shocked and troubled at the level of violence in these FIRST PERSON SHOOTER VIDEO GAMES"

    because customers of First Person Shooters have too-long been deprived of a *Hug Button*

  5. Tony   10 years ago

    I like that you can play as a woman in the new Fallout.

    I suggest relevant games adopt the ability to play as male or female and then have a male/female option for the set of characters who are meant to be treated as sex objects.

    1. R C Woodchipper   10 years ago

      You've been able to play as a woman in the last two Fallouts. which predate SJW attacks on videogames by quite some time.

      1. Careless   10 years ago

        The last two? The first two.

      2. Tony   10 years ago

        Oh it's been a while and I forgot. They applauded when the guy presented the option on that preview video. But they were applauding at the sight of a Nuka-Cola, so, enthusiasm.

        People have been attacking video games along these lines since they started emerging with human characters. And because I'm personally affected by any political meddling in this arena, I say sod off and let parents do the parenting.

        1. R C Woodchipper   10 years ago

          Oh it's been a while and I forgot.

          So you didn't play as a chick, you cis-hetero shitlord, you.

          Unlike some of us (resumes moral preening).

          Actually, the reason I did (on my second play-through) was because they actually built in different dialogue, options, buffs, etc. based on your sex (sorry, no tranny options available, although you could cross-dress).

          1. Tony   10 years ago

            I'm always tempted, because I have your typical gay man's appreciation for strong woman characters. But in real life, or in 100 gameplay hours, less is more when it comes to women, amirite.

            1. fish   10 years ago

              I'm always tempted....

              Of course you are Princess Peach...of course you are.

              1. Zeb   10 years ago

                Peaches was very useful in some levels, but mostly useless. I am, of course, talking Super Mario 2, which is as good as video games ever needed to be.

            2. commodious spittoon   10 years ago

              less is more when it comes to women, amirite< /I

              There's a happy medium in terms of hip to waist ratio.

          2. Agammamon   10 years ago

            But did you play as a *trans-chick*? If not, you can stop you're moral preening because you're not as good as some of us.

          3. Careless   10 years ago

            It was possible to save a lot of money early in fallout 2 by being female...

        2. Agammamon   10 years ago

          They applauded at that point because there's been a rumor going around (started on a Reddit thread of course) that because the PC is voiced and the script called for him to be married with a child that there would be no female PC allowed.

    2. GILMORE, LVL20 Blowhard   10 years ago

      You could play as a woman in the "old" Fallout(s) as well. That's not new.

      You could even be a *gay woman*. Or gay man. and there were more gay relationships than straight ones

      what were you babbling about?

    3. Spaceno42   10 years ago

      MMOs always let you chose either sex. Some guys view it as "If I'm going to play for 100 hours, I want to enjoy the view"

      A lot of ladies played as guys because they didn't want to deal with being hit on.

      As a gamer, I can say our community is weird. (COD getting cursed out by a 10 year old or being called gay because you killed them is awesome in a terrible way)

      1. Agammamon   10 years ago

        Something we have learned to accept is that a core component of internet culture is the G.I.F.T.

    4. Agammamon   10 years ago

      I like that you can play as a woman in the new Fallout.

      I suggest relevant games adopt the ability to play as male or female and then have a male/female option for the set of characters who are meant to be treated as sex objects.

      Seriously? You've *always* been able to play as a women, all the way back to FO1. *All* those games had options to play as gay/lesbian/bi also.

    5. Red Rocks Rockin   10 years ago

      That's been a pretty consistent feature of Bioware's RPG library for several years now, FWIW.

  6. GILMORE, LVL20 Blowhard   10 years ago

    "She responded to Dishonored 2 by complaining"

    This comes as a shock

    1. A special place in JW's Hell   10 years ago

      "Are you even listening to me? I'M TALKING TO YOU!"

  7. Fist of Etiquette   10 years ago

    To stay relevant, they both need their dragons to slay, Conservatives and feminists. Eventually they would both stumble upon the entrance of the same cave.

  8. Careless   10 years ago

    She responded to Dishonored 2 by complaining that the player will get to choose between a male and female lead rather than just having a female lead

    "Look at me, I'm awful!"

    1. MarkLastname   10 years ago

      I'm surprised she didn't complain that the female lead could actually die in the game. That glorifies violence against women! I remember she complained that you could hookers in GTA, how sexist. But what about all the fucking (male) convenient store cashiers I've gunned down after robbing them over the years? Maybe it's ok because they're Asian?

  9. Heroic Mulatto   10 years ago

    What pisses me off about this article is Scott's "well, she does have a point" in the first half of the article, which he half-acknowledges is destroyed in his second half. Not even to mention that she actually doesn't have a point. And never did. For fuck's sake, Scott, which possesses more diversity: the editorial board of Salon or the roster of fighters in 1995's Mortal Kombat 3?

    1. R C Woodchipper   10 years ago

      Yeah, its the weird blind spot some of the Reason writers have.

      Just stop pretending people like Sarkeesian have a point, when they don't. Even her apparently unobjectionable call for M/F player options gets exposed as a pretext when she bitches about exactly that in another game, which she wants you to have only the option to play as a female.

      1. GILMORE, LVL20 Blowhard   10 years ago

        "stop pretending people like Sarkeesian have a point"

        The S.O.P. of the culture-journalist requires that they first throw caveats and plaudits to the SJW set before offering up any slight criticism that maybe their cup runneth over

        See = Robby

        Every single piece he writes has the following formula =

        "[insert subject X] is *shockingly horrible and racist and*...BUT critics are going too far"

        You lead with the "Anti-Gay Pizza, Shockingly Racist Duke Professor, etc" to signal 'who's side you are on'....then you bury the actual criticism down in the bottom of the piece.

        You give with one hand, and you take with the other.

        1. R C Woodchipper   10 years ago

          Social signaling uber alles, nein?

          1. GILMORE, LVL20 Blowhard   10 years ago

            Its possible its actually an editorial decision, and i'm being unfair by blaming Robby et al.

            I think there's a concerted effort (in their hiring at least, and in the subject matter covered) to make Reason more appealing to millenials, and that involves some minor Buzzfeedification, and providing angles on stories that split the difference between SJW cheerleading and Taki-mag-style culture-war ripostes from the right.

            (*noted: Taki's now refers to itself as "a Libertarian magazine". never seen that before.

            "takimag.com/
            Taki's Magazine
            Takimag is a Libertarian webzine. We believe the best stories are smart, cheeky, and culturally relevant. We take our politics like we take life?lightly."
            )

            Biting our style!?

            1. Lady Dalrymple   10 years ago

              To me it seems like a standard concession and a bit formulaic. Doesn't standard high school English teach to grant a concession in a debate to establish credibility?

              Some writers seem to go on auto-pilot and do this reflexively even when the point isn't concession worthy.

              1. John   10 years ago

                The problem is that they never make the concession when they are talking about the Right. They only do it for the SJW.

                1. Pope Tyrannicus XVI   10 years ago

                  That's because most libertarians are millennial nitwits with a basic understanding of economics.

              2. BiMonSciFiCon   10 years ago

                Doesn't standard high school English teach to grant a concession in a debate to establish credibility.

                I come not to disprove what Brutus spoke...

                1. Lady Dalrymple   10 years ago

                  Great example.

              3. MarkLastname   10 years ago

                I can't remember the last time I read a Salon or Slate piece that made any concession whatsoever toward a right or libertarian leaning position. They almost always run all the way through with the Daily Show-esque presumption that their adversaries are just scions of mental retardation.

                I think Scott just hopes that in case Reason ever goes under, all his concessions he made to SJWs will at least help him get a job scrubbing the toilets at the New York Times.

            2. Mal Reynolds   10 years ago

              As a millenial myself I say screw any concessions to SJWs. Every site and feed that exists with any catering to millenials does this ass-licking of SJWs. I need a breath of fresh air that calls them out for chatting bollocks and I highly doubt I'm the only patriarchal cis-hetero shitlord who thinks this. Be the island of sanity.

        2. SIV   10 years ago

          There's a word for this sort of thing.

      2. Somalian Road Corporation   10 years ago

        But... but... the cocktail parties!

      3. GamerFromJump   10 years ago

        Never mind that creating all aspects of your character is and has always been a staple of the western-style RPG (as opposed to the character- and narrative-driven Japanese-style RPG); let's gripe that the option exists instead of forcing what SJs consider "appropriate".

    2. Scott S.   10 years ago

      Ahem, I never said she had a point. I said I had no issue with her lobbying for what she sees as better representation of women in games. Nor would have I have an issue with somebody lobbying for anything they like to be included in games. There's all sorts of things I personally would like to see more of in games, but I don't mistake my consumer desires for fulfillment from entertainment as a crusade for moral righteousness.

      1. Heroic Mulatto   10 years ago

        If that's what you meant, I'm going to trust you; however, when you write

        I said I had no issue with her lobbying for what she sees as better representation of women in games.

        I hope you can see that one could read that as you have no issue with her willful misrepresentation of how women have been historically represented within the narrative of games. One should have an issue with her lobbying efforts because they are mendacious in nature.

        1. Corning   10 years ago

          "One should have an issue with her lobbying efforts because they are mendacious in nature."

          Yeah i came to hate Anitia bullshit because it was filled with lies and cherry picking and only after that did i also hate her bullshit for being zero-sum and condemning.

          Of course those two events happened pretty quickly in my head. As she espoused both within the span of two sentences in the first video I watched of hers.

          1. Heroic Mulatto   10 years ago

            I have to admit that dishonesty is a bigger sin to me than being inflexibly dogmatic and vicious. I mean, say what you want about ISIS, but Jihadism is at least an ethos.

            1. Episiarch   10 years ago

              Shut the fuck up, Donny.

            2. Hyperion's Statist Chipper   10 years ago

              Since no one else has come up with a winning strategy yet to get rid of ISIS, I say that we send them the SJWs as a peace offering. If it works, ok. If it doesn't, ok.

              1. Careless   10 years ago

                Let a hundred Rachel Corries bloom

              2. Don'tTreadOnMeChipper   10 years ago

                Hahah....well, they are our most dedicated warriors, right?

        2. R C Woodchipper   10 years ago

          Something like: I have no issue with people lobbying for what they see as better representation of women in games; However, Sarkeesian is bugfuck nuts. I mean, complaining that DOOM is uberviolent? WTF? You might as well complain that football is a contact sport."

          1. GILMORE, LVL20 Blowhard   10 years ago

            "You might as well complain that football is a contact sport.""

            They do.

            I take issue with the description that Antia Sark. et al are

            ""lobbying for what she sees as better representation of women in games""

            If that's what they were doing, no one would care.

            The actual "substance" of her commentary about games is nearly non-existent

            99% of her efforts are mostly promotion of 'Anita Sarkeesian' - and her self-promotion somehow nabbed her a hat tip as one of "Time Magazine's 100 most influential people in the world". For what? For getting 'harassed'.

            She and other people like her purposely gin up controversy so that "attacks" will grant them victim-credibility.

            How that's supposed to equate to "lobbying for something about women in games" is entirely beyond me. For all the sound and fury these people generate, they have zero actual "work" to show for it.

            1. Jay Dubya   10 years ago

              one of the ways you can spot a true dogmatist is when they start attacking people that agree with them for not agreeing with them enough or in the right way.

              1. PM   10 years ago

                Coming from a Sheldon Richman fanboy... that's rather rich.

        3. Zeb   10 years ago

          I though "what she sees as..." made it reasonably clear that he wasn't supporting the particular things she is lobbying for.

        4. MarkLastname   10 years ago

          Maybe he's saying he had no issue with her *legal right to lobby...*? But I think that's generally assumed, especially given this is a libertarian magazine.

          Sort of a "it's a free country, she can do what she wants!" type of defense. There's a difference between being allowed to do or say something, and being right to do or say something, and Anita is merely the former, not remotely the latter.

      2. Chip Dalasio   10 years ago

        It doesn't bother me at all that Sarkeesian and her allies are pushing for better representation of women (or others) in video games.

        No disrespect, but you couldn't see this as the next step from a mile away?! Sarkeesian's entire schtick has never been about having the option of video games with better female representation or less violence. As you yourself note, there are already a boatload of options for either. It was always all about dictating the terms of what anyone could choose to consume.

      3. Pan Zagloba   10 years ago

        Anita Sarkeesian has become central figure of a video game firestorm over her feminist calls for changes to the industry to better represent women in games and to treat women better within the industry itself.

        Here you grant her the point. She didn't become a central figure of a firestorm because of her subject matter, it was because she is disingenuous, misleading and outright lying to further her political agenda. Due to people in media giving her credibility, she was able to extract Danegeld from Intel, has cranked up a nice living out of her Patreon, and is given more speaking time in media than all of Reason staff put together.

        1. thrakkorzog   10 years ago

          That's the problem. Whenever some sort of sex and violence in video game story flares up in the news, she's the go to girl for the MSM, and not the people who actually make games, and can try to justify their storytelling .

    3. John C. Randolph   10 years ago

      In the words of the brilliant and hilarious Stephen Fry:

      "It's now very common to hear people say, 'I'm rather offended by that.' As if that gives them certain rights. It's actually nothing more... than a whine. 'I find that offensive.' It has no meaning; it has no purpose; it has no reason to be respected as a phrase. 'I am offended by that.' Well, so fucking what."

      The only response necessary to Sarkeesian and her ilk is "Well, so fucking what?"

      If she doesn't like a game, she doesn't have to buy it. If she's trying to stop ME from buying a game because SHE doesn't like it, she can go pound sand up her ass.

      -jcr

      1. A special place in JW's Hell   10 years ago

        "Well, so fucking what?"

        To be truthful, this is probably the best response for most situations.

  10. Brendan   10 years ago

    Lunatic or feminist?

    People love to pretend "fantasy" and "reality" are separate, distinct, unrelated. Nothing could be further from the truth. They're entwined.

    Answer

    1. Heroic Mulatto   10 years ago

      That's actually a quote from an early 90's Cinemax soft porn. You can't fool me!

      1. Galactic Chipper Cdr Lytton   10 years ago

        Now I have to explain to my wife why I'm laughing.

        1. Heroic Mulatto   10 years ago

          Just show her this, but use a filter to convert it to "scribblevision". Like God intended.

    2. MJGreen - Docile Citizen   10 years ago

      I think 2+2=5 is further from the truth.

  11. R C Woodchipper   10 years ago

    Indeed, one of the games promoted by Bethesda in this very conference, Dishonored 2, will allow players to complete the storyline without killing anybody.

    You could complete FONV without killing anyone. Super-hard, but there it is:

    http://kotaku.com/5683023/this.....zero-kills

    1. GILMORE, LVL20 Blowhard   10 years ago

      You can also murder like 100,000 people and still get a "messiah" karma-rating.

      its easier too.

      1. Hyperion's Statist Chipper   10 years ago

        For me, one of the worst features in any game, is anything that moves that you cannot kill. Every NPC, including animals, should be killable.

        1. GILMORE, LVL20 Blowhard   10 years ago

          "one of the worst features in any game, is anything that moves that you cannot kill"

          Clearly you're thinking of the Indestructible Children.

          There aren't as many of them in New Vegas. But Fallout 3 had loads of them. I think you could at least *enslave* a few, right? I mean, that was something.

          1. Hyperion's Statist Chipper   10 years ago

            Hmm. I didn't even notice that. Yeah, you should at least be able to make a few of the orphans polish monocles.

        2. Brendan   10 years ago

          It's why I admire GTA V even while feeling guilty. You can shoot and run over dogs, cats, rabbits, rats, wolves, coyotes, cougars, etc.

          In some neighborhoods, you can see a cat lounging in front of the house. Firing a non-suppressed weapon near it causes it to jump up a lot like a real cat when it gets seriously startled.

          1. Hyperion's Statist Chipper   10 years ago

            I would never hurt a kitty in my games. I like kitties. Horses however. I'm ready to start my own glue factory.

            In Witcher 3 a couple nights ago, I was just casually strolling down a nice cobblestone street, admiring a few strumpets, when I walked by some tethered horses and one of the beasts, out of nowhere, for no reason that I could discern, fucking kicks me and knocks me several flips over backwards into a fucking wall! I was pissed as hell, immediately drew my sword and .... I couldn't attack the damn thing. Major design flaw, CDPR!. The first mod I want is one in which I can kill that fucking horse!

            1. Notorious G.K.C.   10 years ago

              CUSTOMER: "I'm so hungry I could eat a horse!"

              WAITER: "Well, sir, this is your lucky day."

            2. MarkLastname   10 years ago

              Oh, I had so much fun killing horses (and people) in Red Dead Redemption by putting them on the train tracks and waiting for a train to come along. It never gets old for some reason.

              1. Brendan   10 years ago

                Hello fellow monster. I too took spent time figuring how to keep the horse on the tracks while the train came by.

                I did have a problem with the fact that you couldn't really lasso anything else without severe resistance. I even lassoed those shitty little foxes in the West Elizabeth section and they were impossible to drag around.

                1. MarkLastname   10 years ago

                  I guess that's why it's always best to stick with humans. Just tie 'em up, set them on the tracks, and watch them squirm until the train turns them into pink mist.

                  Oh, I guess I should specify for the DOJ that I am still talking about the videogame, not real life. Who am I kidding, they'll rescind my driver's license anyway... but joke's on them, I don't drive!

          2. Hyperion's Statist Chipper   10 years ago

            First few days in GTA 5 I spent leaning to drive. Holy shit, driving is hard in that game. I finally got decent at it using my xbox controller. But I hate controllers, so I just drive with it, then lay it back down on my desk and switch back to K&M for everything else. So I've been too focused so far just learning to drive, to notice any wildlife.

            1. Ska   10 years ago

              I drive and generally run around with the xbox controller, then grab the KB&M for actual shootouts. Best of both set ups. And awesome that you can do it seamlessly.

              1. Hyperion's Statist Chipper   10 years ago

                Yeah, the game would 'drive' me nuts if not for the ability to instantly switch between K&M and controller.

                I'm really good at the shooting since I've been playing FPS games for an eon. But driving is a challenge. There's a race that I got in, first one, and I cannot win that damn thing. I come close.

                Do cars really make a difference if you get a better car or upgrade them?

                It's a really addictive great game, so the learning curve is worth it.

                1. Ska   10 years ago

                  The car upgrades do make a big difference, but if you're talking about the shit talking Asian drift guy and you're racing as Franklin the key is using his special ability. It allows ridiculous 90 degree turns at top speed and makes you go faster than the opponents' top speeds. It's still tough, but the special ability really helps if you use it.

                  1. Hyperion's Statist Chipper   10 years ago

                    I am driving as Franklin in that race. The guy who got me in is driving an orange car.

                    I'll have to figure out the special ability, I wasn't aware of that. That first mission where I had to follow that asshat, Lamar, it took me countless tries to finish that. Then I focused a lot of time on learning to drive with the controller. All of that without knowing about Franklin's special ability.

                    That mission to get the boat back was insane also, since I had to switch from controller to keyboard to shoot the guy out of the boat, then switch back, while hauling ass down the highway. I can't shoot worth a damn with the controller.

            2. Brendan   10 years ago

              I have it on PS4 and am using full auto assist because it's incredibly hard to aim at the NPCs during any sort of combat and not be killed almost instantly. That and the helicopter snipers have absurd accuracy.

              I'm tempted to get it on the PS4 so I can actually enjoy the game.

              1. Hyperion's Statist Chipper   10 years ago

                To be really good at shooting, you'll need a keyboard and mouse. When I'm driving and need to shoot, I switch back from the controller, which is a challenge of it's own, but worth it. You can get deadly with keyboard and mouse shooting.

              2. Brendan   10 years ago

                I should have said that I'm tempted to get it on PC so I can actually enjoy the game.

                1. thrakkorzog   10 years ago

                  I've converted over to Saints Row. All of the fun goofiness of the old GTA games, none of the serious business.

    2. Agammamon   10 years ago

      Hell, you could complete *Postal 2* without killing anyone.

      All the game requires you to do is go pick up your paycheck, cash it, and get some milk from the store.

      Even when mayhem erupts you're free to run away.

      Yet people *freaked* about that game.

    3. Agammamon   10 years ago

      Hell, you could complete *Postal 2* without killing anyone.

      All the game requires you to do is go pick up your paycheck, cash it, and get some milk from the store.

      Even when mayhem erupts you're free to run away.

      Yet people *freaked* about that game.

      1. Agammamon   10 years ago

        This is an important point and can't be emphasized enough, right squirrels.

  12. Mazakon   10 years ago

    Sarkeesian is actually pretty good at what she does. She's turned her 2-episode series into a massive self-victimization campaign that has given her fame, fortune and in the minds of a number of gaming journalism and MSM, credibility.

    Fortunately, GamerGate has done much better in showing how gaming journalism are more likely to support a game if it uses the right buzzwords or have the right connections while games Sarkeesian supports have pretty much all failed.

  13. SIV   10 years ago

    Rightwingers complain about violence in video games? I could see SoCons being upset with sex or profanity in video games but violence? Anti-violent toys seems kinda like a progressive thing.

    1. Heroic Mulatto   10 years ago

      Back in the day, one of the most outspoken critics was Mr. Sheepdog himself.

      1. SIV   10 years ago

        A psych professor? That isn't much of a rightwing resume.

        Shackford writes "Another Right-Winger" like we all know who is typically against violent video games. I don't know much about the subject as I don't play video games but "right-wingers" being in the vanguard of opposition to what I guess are mostly military games just doesn't sound right.

        1. Corning   10 years ago

          It was Hilary who wanted to ban Grand Theft Auto.

          It was Uber-progressive California that passed laws to ban violent games.

          You are correct in pointing out Scott is full of shit.

          1. Heroic Mulatto   10 years ago

            You are correct in pointing out Scott is full of shit.

            No he isn't, actually. And neither are you."Shrill and stentorian puritanism" is where on the Venn diagram of life (or is it an Euler diagram?) Progressives and SoCons meet.

            1. SIV   10 years ago

              Shackford didn't say "SoCons". He said "right-wingers". SoCons opposing violent video games doesn't seem to be "a thing" as best I can tell. That disbarred Florida attorney anti-video game crusader, Jack Thompson was against Christian video games. Seems more like Shackford is playing the game of blaming political opponents for the excesses of his own side. Like when NPR and all the left wing sites blamed a "Republican Supreme Court" for the kelo decision.

            2. MarkLastname   10 years ago

              I think it used to be right wingers. These days, most people on the right seems pretty apathetic about it; the leftists (feminists usually) are clearly the leading contingent of the anti-video game (or anti-TV) crowd. You can see the porn and prostitution debates heading in the same direction. The feminists are taking over the puritan cause. The arguments look less SoCon and more feminist every day.

              1. spqr2008   10 years ago

                It's actually a fairly valid argument to people who are persuaded that we need a "Moderate" level of gun control. For instance, in high school, I thought some rational limits on firearms were logical (gun lock requirements, banning ARs, etc, stupid kid stuff). However, after one of the school shootings, the NRA made this argument, which pissed me off, and then caused me to look at it the way I see the 1st amendment (shall not infringe means shall not infringe, not FYTW).

        2. Heroic Mulatto   10 years ago

          A psych professor? That isn't much of a rightwing resume.

          Someone's job determines their political ideology? That's an odd way to go through life...

          I don't know much about the subject

          No offense, but there's your problem right there. While the current face of the anti-video game movement is a progressive harpy, there are those of us old enough to remember when it was Jack Thompson, a born-again Christian lawyer who, when he wasn't calling Janet Reno a lesbian, was leading the charge against the corruptive forces of gangsta rap and violent video games. The American Family Association has a few astroturfed groups that lobby against violent video games.

          1. Episiarch   10 years ago

            Being a video game complainer knows no ideology. They're just opportunistic busybodies' perfect targets.

            1. Heroic Mulatto   10 years ago

              The hidden variable is "authoritarianism," of course.

            2. Warty   10 years ago

              Being a video game complainer knows no ideology.

              Tulpism is an ideology, you idiot.

              1. Heroic Mulatto   10 years ago

                Imagine the swollen foot of the morbidly obese, clad in a white athletic sock, and wearing a Teva sandal stomping on a human face - forever.

                1. Hey Nikki!   10 years ago

                  Oh god.

                2. ThisWoodchipperKillsFascists   10 years ago

                  *Applauds*

          2. SIV   10 years ago

            SIV|6.15.15 @ 5:17PM|#

            Rightwingers complain about violence in video games? I could see SoCons being upset with sex or profanity in video games but violence? Anti-violent toys seems kinda like a progressive thing.

            Heroic Mulatto|6.15.15 @ 5:26PM|#

            Back in the day, one of the most outspoken critics was Mr. Sheepdog himself.

            Someone's job determines their political ideology? That's an odd way to go through life...

            You offered Grossman as an example of a "right winger" opposed to violent video games.

            1. Warty   10 years ago

              Oh my fucking god, fuckin stop fucking whining already, you fucking tedious Republican fuck.

              1. Episiarch   10 years ago

                It's almost as if he's an incredibly tedious professional KULTUR WAR complainer...just like Sarkeesian. Imagine that.

                1. Warty   10 years ago

                  Imagine there're no whiners
                  It isn't hard to do
                  Nothing to snivel for
                  And no griefers too
                  Imagine all the commenters
                  Commenting in peace...

                  1. Episiarch   10 years ago

                    Oh my god...I just had an epiphany. You're the Yoko Ono of H&R.

                    At least you're not Ringo like ProL.

                    1. Hey Nikki!   10 years ago

                      Ahem. I think we all know who the real Yoko Ono of H&R is.

                    2. Episiarch   10 years ago

                      Good point. So I'm guessing that makes Warty...George Harrison?

                      My god, you really are the worst!

                    3. Warty   10 years ago

                      All you need is glib, all you need is glib
                      All you need is glib, glib. Glib is all you need
                      Glib, glib, glib, glib, glib, glib, glib, glib, glib
                      All you need is glib, all you need is glib
                      All you need is glib, glib. Glib is all you need

                2. SIV   10 years ago

                  Shackford brought the kultur war with the headline that shockingly, Sarkeesian agrees with TEAM RED when her latest bs is entirely consistent with TEAM BLUE.

    2. Hyperion's Statist Chipper   10 years ago

      Most SoCon gamers I know play Call of Duty or Battlefield. I just cannot get in to any of that genre of games. They're boring.

      I like shooters, but I like a story and some adventure/looting in it. And as I always say, some boobs never hurt a game.

      1. Notorious G.K.C.   10 years ago

        Sarkessian is trying to.

    3. Scott S.   10 years ago

      I'm thinking of the NRA, who always want to point the finger at violent video games whenever the gun-grabbers eye them.

      1. SIV   10 years ago

        Thank you for the explanation.

        The NRA did that after Sandy Hook because it is the same fucking people who want to ban guns AND violent video games. They don't call for bans (more like run articles "The Guns of Call of Duty") and seek to diffuse the moral panic by spreading it to other progressive causes and crusades such as need more mental health care! violent video games are harming our children! and the like.

        Your headline strikes me more as a New Yorker book review that began "surprisingly a few prominent progressives supported eugenics too"

      2. MarkLastname   10 years ago

        Ha, they really did that? What twats. "Don't ban us, ban the people who make those other things that have nothing to do with it!" So much for principles I guess.

  14. Heroic Mulatto   10 years ago

    (She responded to Dishonored 2 by complaining that the player will get to choose between a male and female lead rather than just having a female lead)

    So, she's bitching about something the industry already did back in 1982 with Ms. Pac-Man?

    1. TChipperman   10 years ago

      To say nothing about the Tomb Raider franchise.

      1. Galactic Chipper Cdr Lytton   10 years ago

        Or Metroid.

      2. MarkLastname   10 years ago

        Lara Croft has tits though. Unless a main character is flat-chested, she doesn't count as a woman.

    2. Hyperion's Statist Chipper   10 years ago

      I can't think of many, if any, games that have createable characters where you cannot choose to play as a female.

      In party based games, like Dragon Age, Divinity Original Sin, etc, I always have females in my party. Cause boobs, you know.

      1. Agammamon   10 years ago

        But you're not *forced* to play as one. Being able to choose to do so is not enough. We must crush the patriarchy by attacking it at its lazy and ineffectual core!

      2. GamerFromJump   10 years ago

        Not to mention that in JRPGs, the White Mage is often female (the original was even fanoned into one thanks to 8-bit Theatre), and if you don't have them, your party is going to get fucking slaughtered.

        Indispensable party member is good, right?

  15. jester   10 years ago

    Real men don't play CandyCrush.

    1. Hyperion's Statist Chipper   10 years ago

      Damn straight. They just dress up as Bronies and play The Sims.

  16. Ken Shultz   10 years ago

    The first Portal game made you play as a female astronaut, and you never killed anybody. You never even had a gun.

    And if you look at an old school game like Leisure Suit Larry, isn't the joke always on Larry for being such a sexist creep?

    1. Hyperion's Statist Chipper   10 years ago

      A game I always wanted to play, but didn't because you had to play as a girl, is Venetica. I did play Tomb Raider 2013 though, which is pretty good.

    2. SusanM   10 years ago

      Ohhhh, so GlaDOS was no one? Finally your bias towards carbon-based lifeforms rears it's head.

      1. SusanM   10 years ago

        And don't get me started on your anti-cubism...

      2. Ken Shultz   10 years ago

        Yes, but she was a villain--in the first game--and you didn't get to play as her.

      3. Corning   10 years ago

        The end of portal makes it pretty clear GlaDOS is not dead and hints that the woman protagonist is dead...though portal 2 reveals that she is not.

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6ljFaKRTrI

        You are obviously a fake gamer girl =)

        1. SusanM   10 years ago

          Yes, yes, she's "still alive". And you're still ignoring the poor Companion Cube you heartless cubist.

          1. Corning   10 years ago

            We prefer neo-cubephobe.

    3. Agammamon   10 years ago

      And if you look at an old school game like Leisure Suit Larry, isn't the joke always on Larry for being such a sexist creep?

      Just like Benny Hill's lewd sketches always putting the male characters as letches that rarely get what they're after, none of that matters.

      LSL portrays a man that women would not find attractive trying to convince women to have sex with them instead of accepting his lot in life is to be the guy she talks to about her problems with her current boyfriend.

  17. Hyperion's Statist Chipper   10 years ago

    I'm currently playing a sexist game. You have to play as a male, Geralt of Rivia, so it's not only sexist, but having to play as a Witcher, you're also being racist against Elfs, Dwarves, etc. And I fail to give a flying fuck. I am a really bad person.

    1. Spaceno42   10 years ago

      You left out you help people for money which is the Witcher code.
      And people spit on you when you walk buy.
      Also that there are no people of color because it's based on European lore.

      I'm playing too. The story is great. I actually enjoy the combat. Of course, I'm playing on the blood and broken bones.

      1. Agammamon   10 years ago

        Don't forget the women he sexes up too.

  18. Loki   10 years ago

    Sarkeesian seems like a humorless scold and the kind of joyless harpy that anyone with any sense couldn't possibly enjoy being around because no matter what you do she'll find something to bitch and moan about. I can't fucking stand people like that.

  19. Ken Shultz   10 years ago

    "She responded to Dishonored 2 by complaining that the player will get to choose between a male and female lead rather than just having a female lead"

    I understand that sometimes players just don't care. In Portal, you didn't find out you were a woman until the end of the game. But insisting that it's somehow wrong for guys not to want to pretend they're women is probably a bridge too far...

    I'm not saying that people who don't cross-dress should be discriminated against, but, god damn it, if there isn't enough support for cross dressers out there, then the industry needs to start making gamers cross dress virtually whether they like it or not?

    Gimmie a break.

    1. Irish Says Enough Woodchippers   10 years ago

      "In Portal, you didn't find out you were a woman until the end of the game. But insisting that it's somehow wrong for guys not to want to pretend they're women is probably a bridge too far..."

      In portal you can see yourself at the very beginning of the game. When you first use the portal gun, you can see yourself through the portal because of the way the portals interact with each other.

  20. Hal_10000   10 years ago

    Not surprised. While I'm sympathetic to some of her critiques, she has a big problem with any violence. She's claimed Katniss Everdeen and Mattis Ross aren't good female characters because they don't reject violence.

    1. Notorious G.K.C.   10 years ago

      Don't forget Joan of Arc, Annie Oakley, Elizabeth I, Golda Meir, Indira Gandhi, and Florida Woman who is always arrested for beating up her boyfriend.

  21. Hyperion's Statist Chipper   10 years ago

    Well, looks like this screeching harpy is winning. Here's a new FA4 trailer. I didn't see any violence at all!

    Totally non-violent Fallout 4

    1. Cytotoxic   10 years ago

      Hit markers? Grenade markers? Trailer = ruined. There better be mods to get rid of that nonsense.

  22. Warty   10 years ago

    Is this Peak Tedium?

    1. Episiarch   10 years ago

      No, Tulpa hasn't started whining yet.

      1. Warty   10 years ago

        You think?

        1. Episiarch   10 years ago

          I said whining. i didn't say anything else.

  23. The Late P Brooks   10 years ago

    over her feminist calls for changes to the industry to better represent women in games and to treat women better within the industry itself.

    This is like somebody bitching because all movies are not Westerns; or all dolls are not Barbie.
    Holy fuck, why are people so offended by variety? Don't like the games on the shelf, MAKE ONE.

    1. PapayaSF   10 years ago

      They don't want variety because the ultimate goal is to remake the culture. They can't turn us all into politically-correct drones if some people have access to entertainment that has "wrong messages." So the earlier positions ("There should be games with more women/strong women/etc.") are now pass?. The new message is: "There are too many strong/violent/white/straight men in games."

    2. All-Seeing Woodchipper   10 years ago

      Because her real goal isn't for there to be games that appeal to her, her real goal is to stamp out of existence the games that appeal to you.

      I think Scott just about hit it right on the head:
      This is specifically a call for Sarkeesian's game demands to be met, while the demands of other gamers are to be ignored or rejected and their desires attacked.

      Except I think that everything before the comma is just a ruse.

      1. Hyperion's Statist Chipper   10 years ago

        I think Scott just about hit it right on the head:
        This is specifically a call for Sarkeesian's game demands to be met, while the demands of other gamers are to be ignored or rejected and their desires attacked.

        Well, I'm sure that Bethesda, Rockstar, Bioware, etc, are going to get right on pleasing her even if it means giving up a few billion in sales. What a bummer, I guess I have to get used to playing Pokeman.

        1. All-Seeing Woodchipper   10 years ago

          I think you already made that point several times and I was commenting on her motives, not the effectiveness of her tactics.

          I'm sure there's absolutely no way a non-market political process could be abused to achieve the ends that she wants to achieve. After all, we have a pure free market system untainted by any constraints imposed by moral scolds like Anita. We couldn't possibly end up with any kind of "voluntary" ratings board that labels everything with any violence as "adults only" and not suitable for consumption by minors, and not suitable for distribution over "family friendly" platforms like iTunes, thereby giving those game companies some tough calculus to do about whether putting violence in their games is a net win or net loss for sales.

          Do I think that's an imminent threat? No, I do not. But neither do I feel inclined to sit back and let them spout their infinite bullshit completely unchallenged just because their only implementation path is a gradual one.

    3. 2ndClassProle   10 years ago

      Like Bernie Sanders deodorants, variety means individualism, and you cannot have that in authoritarian collective society.

      1. Hyperion's Statist Chipper   10 years ago

        Can we just replace that ugly word 'authoritarian' with 'nice'? And maybe replace 'collective' with 'sharing'?

        We cannot have a nice sharing society with too many video games.

        See how good that sounds? Who could be against that?

        1. 2ndClassProle   10 years ago

          nice and sharing economy would be a free market economy. Business are so nice when they want your business.

          I was thinking the other day abou the auto industry, if government regs and unions were out cars could possibly come down so cheap that oil companies would buy you a car just to buy gas. Kind of like mobile phone contracts are now.

    4. JeSuisRaison, moulin ? bois   10 years ago

      This is like somebody bitching because all movies are not Westerns; or all dolls are not Barbie.

      Sarkeesian world be the type that would bitch about how if Barbie were a real person she wouldn't be able to walk with her proportions, so therefore dolls should look like someone out of peopleofWalMart.com with a doughface and a gunt...

      1. MarkLastname   10 years ago

        Pretty sure Stretch Armstrong isn't realistically proportioned either. I found that out the hard way; been lying on the ground with all my limbs pulled out of their sockets since; don't ask me how I'm typing, you don't wanna know.

  24. Grand Moff Serious Man   10 years ago

    The difference between SoCons and Sarkeesian is that SoCons dislike violence and sex in the media because it might corrupt children and spoil their innocence.

    Sarkeesian is aghast that adults might enjoy those things due to her irrational views on those matters. Frankly, that's far more sinister than what SoCons think.

    1. Warty   10 years ago

      She's Mary Whitehouse. Nothing is new. All of this has happened before, and it will all happen again.

      1. PapayaSF   10 years ago

        Also: Mrs. Grundy, Carry Nation, Anthony Comstock, etc. It's PC-puritanism.

        1. Grand Moff Serious Man   10 years ago

          Yes, but at least back in those days there really was a problem with men getting shit-faced drunk, blowing the family savings and then coming home and beating the shit out of their wives.

          There's absolutely zero reason or evidence that video games have a negative societal effect on people, lest of all on women.

          1. PapayaSF   10 years ago

            Comstock crusaded against "smut," which included things like the painting "September Morn."

    2. John   10 years ago

      Robby saying that Sarkeesian has a point but... is no different than saying Huckabe has a point about the evils of gambling and drugs.

      1. BiMonSciFiCon   10 years ago

        Shackford, not Robby.

        1. SIV   10 years ago

          Hard to tell 'em apart when they got their cosmo on...

        2. MarkLastname   10 years ago

          Doesn't matter, they're both really Tulpa anyway.

  25. Corning   10 years ago

    "GamerGate, which these days appears to be an argument about what GamerGate is actually about and both sides accusing each other of harassment and very little discussion about games."

    I am positive that people in gamergate scooped you and made your points about Anita better then you did on this very story.

    Should also point out that the average Robby article here at Reason has absolutely nothing to do with libertarians, markets, minds, reason, and facts and mostly has to do with what it looks like when an idiot vomits on his keyboard.

  26. John C. Randolph   10 years ago

    She's just Jack Thompson in drag. Fuck that noise.

    -jcr

    1. Pan Zagloba   10 years ago

      She's worse. Thompson wanted to make sure violent games (e.g. GTA) are not sold to minors under any circumstances. She wants to make them stop existing.

      1. Heroic Mulatto   10 years ago

        This is true; perhaps only because as a lawyer Thompson knows he has a snowballs chance in Hell of successfully ligating that on 1st Ad. grounds.

      2. Hyperion's Statist Chipper   10 years ago

        Both of them are shit out of luck.

      3. Cytotoxic   10 years ago

        Counterpoint: Thompson wanted to use the force of the state; Anita as far as I know has not gone that far.

        1. thrakkorzog   10 years ago

          That's probably because she saw what happened to Thompson earlier. He fucked up so badly in his campaign to ban bad games that he got disbarred. Anita would love to have the state to ban video games, she just needs to get those in power to agree with her.

  27. tz   10 years ago

    If you want to candy crush the bubble witch while rescuing pets, go for it.

    The SJWs (social justice warriors) and feminists have a problem because too many of their game developers produce crappy, boring, buggy games. Or even if they might be interesting, we interrupt this game to give you a sermon on political correctness.

    If I don't like Zoe Quinn's "Depression Quest", it must be because I'm a misogynist, not because if you were handcuffed and forced to play to completion, you would chew your arm off instead as it would be less painful.

    I loved the multiplayer Doom/Quake so much I wrote a patch to the linux kernel to allow Doom to cross our network segments. I can say many bits weren't great, but I could burn the lunch hour competing against my coworkers. It held my interest.

    Next thing they will complain and demand chess have viziers, shamans, samurai, earthworks, and payday-loan-stores (instead of pawns) to be more inclusive, and that checkers say "crown me" and have the double layer as monarch or something besides "king".

    The Zombie Apocalypse proceeds unabated. Your get infected. Your Hair turns blue. You stop making any sense. Some random thing causes a psychotic hissy fit. (Zoe, Randi?). These are but the early symptoms. But some have immunity. Some become a white knight of the living dead.

    1. Heroic Mulatto   10 years ago

      Next thing they will complain and demand chess have viziers, shamans, samurai, earthworks, and payday-loan-stores (instead of pawns) to be more inclusive

      That sounds awesome, actually. Though, I'm a big fan of chess variants. Xiangqi has cannons and elephants. Elephants!

    2. JeSuisRaison, moulin ? bois   10 years ago

      The SJWs (social justice warriors) and feminists have a problem because too many of their game developers produce crappy, boring, buggy games.

      Kinda like how Salesforce CEO guy can't remove Hillary's clitdong from his mouth long enough to make a payroll app that doesn't fucking crash at least once a week...

  28. Warty   10 years ago

    This broad's twitter history, or whatever you call it, is fascinating. Like, remember how you felt when you dissected a worm and you got to that funky weird heart that they have , and you tried to figure out how the fuck it could exist with that thing? Yeah. What I'm getting at is, can someone translate this? Is it translatable?

    Feminist Frequency ?@femfreq May 19
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    It makes me profoundly sad that mainstream pop culture now interprets feminism to mean "women can drive fast and stoically kill people too!"
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    Feminist Frequency ?@femfreq May 19
    Viewers get to feel good about hating cartoon misogyny without questioning themselves or examining how sexism actually works in our society.
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    Feminist Frequency ?@femfreq May 19
    Mad Max's villains are caricatures of misogyny which makes overt misogynists angry but does not challenge more prevalent forms of sexism.
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    1. Hyperion's Statist Chipper   10 years ago

      The beauty of capitalism is that it ensures people like this will always remain on the inconsequential lunatic fringe.

      1. Cytotoxic   10 years ago

        Or in academia where they can do immense damage.

      2. MarkLastname   10 years ago

        Forget about that thing called government that is often operated by a lunatic fringe, and has little care for the beauty of capitalism?

    2. Episiarch   10 years ago

      Let me translate her comments for you, Warty.

      "I am a completely miserable person. The only thing that makes me feel a little less miserable is trying to make other people miserable so that I'm not alone in my misery. Also, I like cake."

      1. TChipperman   10 years ago

        LOTS of cake.

        1. Episiarch   10 years ago

          Look, man, Sarkeesians don't rule the night. Nobody does. And they don't run in packs.

      2. John   10 years ago

        You forgot

        "I am completely stupid person who has nothing original to add or any value to bring to things. So I just mouth talking points and buzzwords as a way to be rewarded with a career".

        1. Mickey Rat   10 years ago

          She's a professional critic, that is the job description.

      3. Corning   10 years ago

        Nah.

        My theory is that everything she does is a cynical ploy and like the good con she is makes a pretty good living from it.

    3. Heroic Mulatto   10 years ago

      We're starved for representations of powerful women but we need to re-imagine concepts of power & move beyond the glorification of violence.

      Translation: I like puzzle games.

      It makes me profoundly sad that mainstream pop culture now interprets feminism to mean "women can drive fast and stoically kill people too!"

      Translation: I like those games where you have to find objects hidden in a picture before time runs out.

      Viewers get to feel good about hating cartoon misogyny without questioning themselves or examining how sexism actually works in our society.

      Translation: Something doesn't expressly appeal to my demographic; how dare they!

      Mad Max's villains are caricatures of misogyny which makes overt misogynists angry but does not challenge more prevalent forms of sexism.

      Translation: I like romantic comedies and those movies where Melissa McCarthy is fat.

      1. Apatheist ?_??   10 years ago

        Translation: I like those games where you have to find objects hidden in a picture before time runs out.

        Erotic Photo Hunt?

      2. Lady Dalrymple   10 years ago

        We're starved for representations of powerful women but we need to re-imagine concepts of power & move beyond the glorification of violence.

        Here's what I don't get: She wants representations of powerful women, so why doesn't she get on that? She's demanding that artists and companies creatively design something she wants to see, but other than a vague idea of "re-imagining concepts of power" she cannot articulate what she actual wants except that it shouldn't include icky violence which many women do enjoy. And, we have no idea if there'd be any market for it if "it" was conceived and created.

        1. Lady Dalrymple   10 years ago

          it makes me profoundly sad that mainstream pop culture now interprets feminism to mean "women can drive fast and stoically kill people too!"

          Because when the Spice Girls sang about Girl Power they were taking about AR-15's?

          There are a million representation in pop-culture of feminism as non-violent. Like every Disney movie since 1990.

          1. John   10 years ago

            And is there any stronger and more important role for a woman than that of being a mother? That is what it is really about with women like this. They hate themselves and they hate their own gender. So they rebel by denying everything that is good and powerful about that gender.

            1. Lady Dalrymple   10 years ago

              You kinda have a point, but you sound like Tywin Lannister so

              -1

              Seriously, you could say the same thing of fatherhood.

              1. Lady Dalrymple   10 years ago

                OT: I loved the dynamic between Tywin and Cersei because he marginalized her in part because she was a woman but also because she's not that smart and overestimates her own abilities. She insists it's only because she's a woman and refuses to acknowledge her own limitations.

                Know, Dany, I dare you to underestimate Dany. Bitch will burn you alive.

                1. Lady Dalrymple   10 years ago

                  know

                  Now

                2. Episiarch   10 years ago

                  Cersei has always been at least a little delusional, and it turns into full-bore paranoia in the 5th book (or was it the 4th?). The only thing that seemed to keep her relatively sane was Jaime. Well, when Jaime still had his hand and was practically evil*. In fact, if you think about it, Cersei didn't really start to go down the mental tubes until Martin made her a POV character.

                  * Jaime's rehabilitation has actually been one of the more remarkable transformations of the series.

                  1. Lady Dalrymple   10 years ago

                    Yeah, Brienne's influence, the loss of his hand, and the expository stuff Martin did with him about his motivation in killing Aerys and his relationships with his siblings helped humanize him for sure.

                    I predict he survives Dany's rise to power and continues on to serve her as a King's Guard.

                3. Warty   10 years ago

                  Dany is very hard to underestimate. She's terrible at everything except blundering forward and lucking into good outcomes. Fuck her, she's a do-gooding little ditz with dragons.

                  1. Lady Dalrymple   10 years ago

                    Hmmmm. No

                    You could say almost the same thing about Jon Snow. They both stumble occasionally into fortuitous situations. It is a sci-fi novel. Because of his upbringing and training Jon is able to be more active in his decisions.

                    Dany uses pure wile. She makes Dhrogo fall in love with her as a strategy. She instinctively understands the value of the dragon eggs and uses intelligence to hatch them. She brutally kills her enemies.

                    Martin shows the parallel development of both characters. They start out as naive and idealistic and learn brutal lessons which they then apply. Both are hero's.

                    1. Lady Dalrymple   10 years ago

                      She no libertarian, for sure. But the setting really doesn't allow for it.

                  2. Agammamon   10 years ago

                    She's not even a 'do-gooder'. She's an insane, power-hungry tyrant like all the others. About the only 'good' thing I've seen her do was release the slave soldiers from bondage.

                    She reneged on the contract she signed to purchase them and killed the dude in the process.

                  3. Red Rocks Rockin   10 years ago

                    Yeah, I haven't seen any evidence so far that she'd be an effective ruler. Martin finally had to have his Deus Ex Drogon fly her out of Mereen because she was so incompetent at it.

                    Without her dragons and Ser Friendzone, she'd have died in the desert or ended up in a slave caravan a long time ago.

                    1. Somalian Road Corporation   10 years ago

                      When it comes to Daenerys, a quote by Daniel Webster comes to mind: "There are men in all ages who mean to govern well, but they mean to govern. They promise to be good masters, but they mean to be masters."

                      Also her blustering about how she'll lay waste to everything that stands in her path--"burn cities to the ground" or however she phrased it at Qarth--doesn't strike me as particularly levelheaded.

                      However it does seem like a lot of people get suckered in with the whole "freeing the slaves" thing, ignoring the fact that she's freeing them from chattel slavery into feudal serfdom. Meh, I understand the realpolitik arguments put forth for her by the characters supporting her but I'll be damned if I see her as a heroine myself.

                4. Mickey Rat   10 years ago

                  Dany has her moments of stupidity too, but she seems much more capable of self-awareness.

              2. John   10 years ago

                Yes you could. And if some man were ruining around saying fatherhood was a tool of female domination, I would call him a self hating nut too.

                1. Pope Tyrannicus XVI   10 years ago

                  fatherhood no. alimony absolutely.

        2. All-Seeing Woodchipper   10 years ago

          Here's what I don't get: She wants representations of powerful women, so why doesn't she get on that?

          Because what she says she wants is not what she actually wants.

        3. Pan Zagloba   10 years ago

          She wants representations of powerful women, so why doesn't she get on that?

          They never want simply powerful, independent women. Easy test for each feminist - ask them about Margaret Thatcher. Science educated, first female leader of a major political party in UK, home of party politics. Elected three times to majorities (and fourth conservative victory had her to thank), erudite, intelligent, quick-witted.

          What she wants is more left-wing propaganda in games. Well, what she really wants is for studios to pay big bucks to her non-profit and for media to cover her.

          1. Hyperion's Statist Chipper   10 years ago

            Game studios do not need media, they have Steam and armies of independent gamers using free game capture technologies to review games on Youtube.

            I NEVER read game reviews from so called 'professional' reviewers on game media sites. I read user reviews on Steam, read the comments, and watch youtube.

            You know who reads professional game reviewers reviews? Them, the game reviewers. That's it.

            1. Pan Zagloba   10 years ago

              Hopefully this will become true as time goes forward. But Metacritic is, sadly, far as I know still taken seriously to the point of "you get 80% or whatever, you get bonus." That's fuckton of power, if one bad review can cost you personally thousands of dollars.

              1. Somalian Road Corporation   10 years ago

                For example, the Fallout: New Vegas devs missed getting royalties due to the Metacritic score being 84 instead of 85 or higher.

              2. MarkLastname   10 years ago

                I honestly use metacritic and Rotten Tomatoes for picking movies a lot.

                I only realized recently just how much towing the party line boosts you reviews: there are a slew of lefty or feminist documentaries that have been as thoroughly discredited as the Protocols of the Elders of Zion that nonetheless enjoy 98 or 99%. I was stunned.

                It's like you can make a movie that pushes the 'right' agenda, and no matter how much bullshit you shove down the audience's throat, youll still get at least an 80%. Especially with documentaries.

            2. Rhywun   10 years ago

              Interesting you mention that. I used to swear by Metacritic but lately I've found the Steam user reviews more useful. First thing I look at now is the Steam blurb ("mostly positive" or whatnot). Then I read some user reviews.

              1. Agammamon   10 years ago

                Same for me - if you take the Steam review of 'mostly positive' to actually mean 'don't buy unless a huge fan of the IP or its on sale'.

                1. Rhywun   10 years ago

                  I buy prolly 90% of my games on sale. I play mostly casual stuff so there's very few "must buy now" items for me.

                2. Pan Zagloba   10 years ago

                  For me, I've never cared much for gaming websites to begin with,and I dropped the last I was reading, Rock-Paper-Shotgun, three years ago when they decided to go full-on SJW for some reason. Now I'm sticking with You Tube previews, as I find TotalBiscuit to have taste close to mine, and even if we differ, his previews will explain why I may not like what he likes and vice versa. Steam reviews are now doing job that Metacritic used to, but will probably get gamed and bollocked up the same way, sadly.
                  Seeing big gaming sites like Polygon, Verge, IGN or Kotaku die would be lovely, though.

        4. A special place in JW's Hell   10 years ago

          Here's what I don't get: She wants representations of powerful women, so why doesn't she get on that?

          Because, someone, somewhere, is not representing women exactly the way she wants them to be represented having fun,

    4. GILMORE, LVL20 Blowhard   10 years ago

      There's a reason there's never been a Feminist-Approved game

      these people don't make anything. they just tear things apart and tut-tut

  29. The Late P Brooks   10 years ago

    We're starved for representations of powerful women but we need to re-imagine concepts of power & move beyond the glorification of violence.

    *blinks rapidly, shuts down computer, goes to bar*

  30. John   10 years ago

    Sarkeesian has the kind of looks that I would normally find fairly hot. I don't find her hot at all and it is not just because of her appalling stupidity. Is it just me or does she always seem to be frowning. I have never seen a picture of her where she looked happy or anything but butt hurt. The situation is forever grave and serious and full of butt hurt in Sarkeesian world.

    1. Crusty Juggler   10 years ago

      I would. I like a woman who looks miserable and would tell me what to do.

      1. John   10 years ago

        She is all that and a bag of chips. I could totally see her as a Domme. Damn would you have to be a masochist to get off on that.

        1. TChipperman   10 years ago

          Damn would you have to be a masochist to get off on that.

          John, meet Crusty. Crusty, John.

        2. A special place in JW's Hell   10 years ago

          What? You don't humorless and thin skinned is hot?

    2. Warty   10 years ago

      She has jowls, dude. Look. You get those from having a permanent sneer.

      1. John   10 years ago

        And look at the look on her face in that picture. Would it kill her to fucking smile once in a while? That look is this toxic stew of smug moral certainty mixed with hate and contempt.

        1. Hyperion's Statist Chipper   10 years ago

          Someone dumped her and it was bad. That's my guess. Now she's turned it into a career of hate. She should just wear joker make-up and gestapo boots with spikes on them.

      2. Corning   10 years ago

        In fairness Anita is getting older and approaching THAT age all white women dread. Her more recent picts and videos will never again be that raven haired fresh faced cutie who vomited the most hateful bile on every person who dared to touch a game controller...

        Now she is just starting to look mom.

    3. Corning   10 years ago

      here you go:

      http://i.imgur.com/jQexgB3.png

      In her videos, to me at least, she always has a Mona Lisa smile and she always seems so cheerful. To me that is one of the most disconcerting things. She cheerfully condemns me as a hateful misogynist simply because I had the nerve to play and enjoy some games she does not like.

      1. Crusty Juggler   10 years ago

        I would call that a brazen sultriness (plus she would tell me what to do).

      2. John   10 years ago

        Okay, she is smiling and she really looks hot there right up until you realize just how creepy that picture is.

      3. Warty   10 years ago

        Does anyone else become murderously enraged by the word "haters"? It seems to be exclusively used by the stupidest people.

        1. John   10 years ago

          Yes. I think it is a totally idiotic word.

        2. Episiarch   10 years ago

          Don't be a hater, Warty.

          Oh shi--

          1. lap83   10 years ago

            Maybe he'll have some mercy on you since it wasn't the plural form of the word.
            Jk, he won't.

            1. Episiarch   10 years ago

              There is no word for mercy in Warty's language. Actually, there are no words for most things in Warty's language. Just good...and ball...and rape.

              1. Lady Dalrymple   10 years ago

                Warty doesn't actually use language, just a visual image of the thing he wants with a verbal cue. Much like the young Hellen Keller he hasn't yet learned to connect the concept of the item with the actual verbal word.

                (sorry, Warty)

              2. Warty   10 years ago

                ALL YOU NEED IS RAPE
                HE RAPES YOU YEAH YEAH YEAH

                1. Episiarch   10 years ago

                  That's a John song...George.

                  THIS RAPE IS JUST SIX HOURS LONG
                  THIS RAPE IS JUST SIX HOURS LONG

                  1. Warty   10 years ago

                    You say goodbye, I say RAPE.

          2. Crusty Juggler   10 years ago

            It is okay to say it. Warty and John are just both hater haters.

        3. John   10 years ago

          And whenever someone uses it, they are almost always the most hateful person around. But the objects of their hate are the haters. See Warty, you are just a hater because you don't understand how horrible you are and how right someone like Sarkeesian is to hate you.

          1. lap83   10 years ago

            Sort of like the type of people who say "I'm gonna stop being so nice to everyone"
            They're never nice people to begin with and when they say that it's a signal to flee in terror.

        4. PapayaSF   10 years ago

          I'm not enraged, but it's another bit of annoyingly hyperbolic political rhetoric that doesn't help anything. Don't think someone should be forced to cater a gay wedding? You're a "hater," despite not actually hating anything (except maybe forcing people to do things that are against their religion). See also: anything to the "right" of leftism is "fascism."

      4. MarkLastname   10 years ago

        Are those all the games she personally confiscated from tearful children the day after Christmas?

    4. Pope Tyrannicus XVI   10 years ago

      This seems relevant...

      http://www.returnofkings.com/6.....uch-makeup

      1. Ceci n'est pas un woodchipper   10 years ago

        That's a good point, she does cake it on. It's a shame, because she's not unattractive, she's just such a vile human being that she's completely unfuckable.

  31. Crusty Juggler   10 years ago

    OT via Drudge: U.S. ambassador to U.N. visits Ukraine, slams Russian 'aggression'

    Since Power was all about getting involved in Libya I figure this does not have a happy ending.

    1. John   10 years ago

      That is the same bitch who helped talk Clinton into bombing Kosovo. Power is one of the dumbest people ever to hold any influence in America.

      1. Pan Zagloba   10 years ago

        To bring it back on topic, maybe she just wants to keep another decade of Modern Military Shooters going.

        1. Cytotoxic   10 years ago

          It's weird that the CoD and BF franchises both got into the 'Russia evil' so presciently.

          1. MarkLastname   10 years ago

            There's no way around it. That youtube critic for the escapist, Yahtzee, was bitching about the cliche "Russians invading" plot that COD and BF have been rehashing for a decade now, but they called it.

    2. Cytotoxic   10 years ago

      She's right to give verbal support to Ukraine while condemning what Russia does, but yeah she's stupid.

  32. Rockabilly   10 years ago

    I need a trigger warning

    Angry feminist crazy talk

  33. Osama bin Pimpin   10 years ago

    Oprah aint got no man!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9jXnZS3ouU

  34. Somalian Road Corporation   10 years ago

    Becoming Sarkeesian : Launch Your Own Feminist Video Series is good for a laugh. 25 Invisible benefits of being Anita Sarkeesian is by the same guy.

    I see he's uploaded new stuff since I last looked at his Youtube channel; I wonder if there's anything giving Jonathan McIntosh, the whiny trust fund baby Marxist that serves as Sarkeesian's partner for this shit, any flack.

    1. John   10 years ago

      Is he getting sex out of this? And what the hell is wrong with parents. If one of my kids turned into a Marxist, they would be disowned and cut off.

      1. Pan Zagloba   10 years ago

        Yes, he is. But he's worst of the pair. He was one of the people who went hard after Whedon, while, hilariously, Anita was making sure Whedon was OK.

        Also, his vs. Anita's popularity is hilarious counterpoint to "men are taken more seriously."

      2. Somalian Road Corporation   10 years ago

        I don't know enough to speculate as to whether it's a hyper-extreme case of fuck-you-dadism or the apple not falling far from the tree, but there's a lot of trustafarian shit going on with the bigger voices in the Gamergate brouhaha, Jonathan McIntosh and Brianna Wu coming immediately to mind.

        Proletarian hero McIntosh quality of the Internet connection on his dad's private island:

        Internet connection at my dad's place in the San Juan Islands drops occasionally. Not a big deal but it makes playing #Diablo3 impossible.

        And Brianna Wu got a few hundred thousand at 18 to blow making a terrible game nobody bought (and probably much more in bailout from the parents later) while also posting almost sixty thousand tweets a year about how oppressed and hard life is, blah blah blah patriarchy.

        If there's one thing that really annoys the shit out of me, it's rich Marxists, particularly rich kid Marxists. Shirtsleeves to shirtsleeves in three generations isn't quick enough sometimes.

        1. Episiarch   10 years ago

          Do you know for a fact that his father owns an entire island in the San Juans? Because there are a lot of islands there, but most are pretty tiny and none of the bigger ones are private as far as I know (admittedly I am not an expert, I've just been to two of them).

          1. Somalian Road Corporation   10 years ago

            I've just been trying to find a direct reference for this and I can't, just a bunch of secondary sources that specifically mention "private island" and his father being a multimillionaire. I'm wondering if it's on a tweet that has been since deleted or buried in some forum posting somewhere or the like. He never seems to deny it to attempt to maintain his cred when people try to call him out on it, although that's not exactly hard evidence for it being true.

            It's apparently here if you want to go full Internet detective and check property listings.

            1. Episiarch   10 years ago

              That's a pic of Friday Harbor, which is on San Juan island itself and is absolutely not a private island. So I guess that answers the question?

              1. Somalian Road Corporation   10 years ago

                That link in specific is Encyclopedia Dramatica (although quite frankly when it comes to this shit it's as "good" as Wikipedia) so the veracity is in question and it might be altogether tongue-in-cheek. Your point about there being no hard proof of the private island thing holds, though; it's just something that I heard repeated enough with no contradiction that I assumed it to be true, and it very well might not be.

    2. Corning   10 years ago

      "25 Invisible benefits of being Anita Sarkeesian."

      15: "Not only do I get preferential treatment by journalists I also get money from them."

      Definitely not about Ethics in Journalism.

      Oh wait, look at that:

      "There's been a backlash, and a backlash against the backlash and then there's GamerGate, which these days appears to be an argument about what GamerGate is actually about and both sides accusing each other of harassment and very little discussion about games."

      Funny how Scott completely forgot to mention that little tidbit when talking about gamergate and Anita.

  35. Cytotoxic   10 years ago

    Doom? Really? Single player Doom was never good, especially not Doom 3.

    1. Warty   10 years ago

      Is there a single work of art that you don't have the wrong opinion on?

      1. Cytotoxic   10 years ago

        Said the who has seriously called The Fifth Element 'fun'.

        1. Agammamon   10 years ago

          So, wrong again huh?

          5th element isn't *good*, but its a damn fun movie.

          1. Cytotoxic   10 years ago

            If you're idea of 'fun' is to stare into the depths of UGLINESS and, for that matter, Chris Tucker, then have at her. Just know that your version of fun is wrong.

            1. Agile Cyborg   10 years ago

              Ugliness has quantified qualities which tweak the mind, man. Never discount ugliness as a trip into imagined spaces. Tacos are ugly but people eat them. Hotdogs and ham sandwiches are also ugly. Brick is ugly but people want this shit on their houses.

              1. Cytotoxic   10 years ago

                YOU CAN'T EAT OR BUILD SHIT WITH THE FIFTH ELEMENT IT IS USELESS except as a guide to what shitty movie cults look like.

                1. Agile Cyborg   10 years ago

                  I eat shitty cult movies like avocados, man.

                  1. Walter Peck   10 years ago

                    But do you eat Green Berets for breakfast?

                    1. Kevin Sorbos Manful Locks   10 years ago

                      What's the matter, Dylan? CIA got you pushing too many pencils?

        2. Agile Cyborg   10 years ago

          What the fuck is wrong with the monstrosity of ebbing bullheads in your head old boy? Rank old Doom was fun and The Fifth Element was delicious on my eyes. And below this pile of fonts your fingers are ripping on GTA which I totally concur with that strangely worded chipper on GTA 5. GTA 5 is literally a mazzive fucking pile of good times in between certain days and yon.

          Cyto Challenge: What does the toxic human play and watch these days that curries his fancies?

          1. Cytotoxic   10 years ago

            This board can't even handle you!

            1. Agile Cyborg   10 years ago

              This board can handle three concurrent big bangs with at least two cosmic twists ramming infinity in its butt hole with a black hole dildo. I am a mere fucking speck of conscientious observation viewing this inordinate galactic display of juicy, ripe, tornadic smashing of the most fucking turgid rivulets ever created before or aft the great glowing orb called the Reason's box of demons.

          2. Pan Zagloba   10 years ago

            The ultimate Cytotoxis: causing the Agile Cyborg post a coherent, reasonable and cogent statement!

            1. Cytotoxic   10 years ago

              It's happened before but I still feel special.

          3. MarkLastname   10 years ago

            Oldboy was as good movie.

    2. Agammamon   10 years ago

      Single player *Doom* was great. I agree SP Doom3 was meh, but that whole game was meh outside of the technical showcase aspect.

      1. Cytotoxic   10 years ago

        SP Doom was only 'great' because it was the first to do what it did. In retrospect, it's just a bunch of rooms filled with easy to kill bad guys. Lame.

        1. Agammamon   10 years ago

          Well, going by that standard, a Ferrari isn't that great of a car because Ford did the model 'A' first and it was slow and unwieldy.

          1. Cytotoxic   10 years ago

            Doom is no Ferrari. It's closer to the Model A.

            1. Agammamon   10 years ago

              Still, the model A was a great car - in its time. Just because a used ford Fiesta will outperform it in everyway today doesn't change that.

    3. lap83   10 years ago

      You just haven't played the right Doom
      http://worth1000.s3.amazonaws......5x1000.jpg

    4. ThisWoodchipperKillsFascists   10 years ago

      Is there a bad taste gene you inherited, cyto?

  36. Cytotoxic   10 years ago

    FO4 has extremely stiff competition with the Witcher 3 already out.

    I heard the E3 hosts actually weren't cringey.

    1. Hyperion's Statist Chipper   10 years ago

      Witcher 3 and GTA 5 are the best of the best games out right now.

      1. Cytotoxic   10 years ago

        I haven't played GTA V but I have played previous GTAs and they were never that good.

        1. Hyperion's Statist Chipper   10 years ago

          This one is very good and I've also never played any of the others.

        2. Warty   10 years ago

          So not a single defensible opinion then?

          1. Cytotoxic   10 years ago

            Said the who liked Futurama.

            1. Warty   10 years ago

              Again. Your taste is impeccably terrible. It's amazing. Have you tried to monetize this?

              1. Cytotoxic   10 years ago

                You're pretty ballsy, but the 'double or nothing' strategy won't work. You can't cover up the fact that you have awful standard for television, movies, and even music. I mean...Futurama was just never good. Never. Most people here have shit taste mostly because of their nostalgia goggles but you're special.

                1. Warty   10 years ago

                  Kiddo, I know full well I'm not going to get through to you because belligerence is your defense mechanism. But your taste is 100% pure shit, and that's all there is to it.

                  1. Cytotoxic   10 years ago

                    I know full well I'm not going to get through to you because belligerence is your defense mechanism.

                    Said the guy who first started this. And that's not all he's projecting folks!

                2. Agile Cyborg   10 years ago

                  Fuck, you're adorable. I also don't watch Futurama- but it is engaging from time to time in a Doritos fashion.

            2. MJGreen - Docile Citizen   10 years ago

              So Cytotoxic is trolling, right? No one's taste can be this consistently awful.

        3. Agammamon   10 years ago

          I think only MP GTAV is good - haven't played any of them but read lot's of reviews about the idiotic SP missions and reviewers getting annoyed at the 'gritty' story focus the series has now (instead of the open-world mayhem sandbox focus it had). MP is the only thing keeping GTAV in the news today - and that mainly because they delayed the PC release for a year.

          TW3 will be mostly forgotten by this time next year. Is a highly linear, narratively-driven game and while the story is good and the world is reasonably fleshed out, there isn't much to *do* outside of the quests. You can kill the same monsters the same way over and over again. Unless the toolkit is powerful enough to enable some serious changes then once people have played through it a couple of times they'll put it aside for the next new hotness.

          FO4 will likely not have as good a storyline as TW3 (or FNV for that matter) but there's a lot of room for dicking around in that game - couple that with mods and you'll have people buying it for the next 4 years.

          1. Cytotoxic   10 years ago

            I've heard mixed things about FO:NV. Like the factions weren't that interesting and all looked like football players or something. Guess we have to keep waiting for Half-Life 3.

            1. Agammamon   10 years ago

              I think you might have that confused with FO3 - which is more dungeon crawler than RPG.

              FNV is the best of the two games.

              1. Cytotoxic   10 years ago

                WTF? There is nothing 'dungeon crawler' about FO3.

                Whatever. I will eventually get around to playing it, and then rendering judgement onto everyone else's opinion of it.

                1. Agile Cyborg   10 years ago

                  Fallout 3 was fucking swell, sir Tox.

            2. ThisWoodchipperKillsFascists   10 years ago

              What is wrong with you, cyto?

            3. thrakkorzog   10 years ago

              I prefer FO:NV to FO3. 3 just had the brotherhood of steel = good, and the Enclave = evil.

              In New Vegas, most factions have some good points and some bad points, and so it's kind of hard to hate any particular group. You can have a chat with the leader of the most evil faction in the wasteland, and he's actually an OK guy with a crazy plan that's not all that crazy.

        4. MarkLastname   10 years ago

          So, you just don't have a soul then?

  37. Cytotoxic   10 years ago

    Also it's good that Microsoft pulled its head out of its ass regarding Xbox1 backwards compatibilitty but 1) too late and 2) still a shitty console even by console standards.

  38. Agile Cyborg   10 years ago

    As one who has studied the Human Rights Watch website for over a decade and has invested over fucking 20 years studying the holocaust, Rwanda, Liberia, and the Balkans I am thrilled to rip, slash, cut, pulverize, and goddamn fucking violate in pure digital form. I will kill, maim, murder, and I've even happily rape in digital form. I'd rape pigs in the ass with my upgraded black cock. I'd rape a house, even. I'd rape the White House with my upgraded black cock. I'd jam that fucking black cock into the front fucking door and do the cock dance with that fucking White house trim whacking away at the special nerves lining my upgraded 3 foot black cock and I'd cum a volcanic fucking pile of rape juice right into the front fucking hallway of the White house and I would fall asleep on the White house digital lawn with my upgraded 3 foot black cock shrinking like a baby rattlesnake swerving from butt-crapping tourists on a Gatlinburg trail just outside the real Smokeys.

    Real violence kills your heart. Fake violence offers respite and peaceful adventure. May imagined, faux, digital, and poetic violence live forever. And may it never trump sexuality.

    1. Cytotoxic   10 years ago

      WHY ISN'T THIS MAN WRITING FOR REASON?

      1. Agile Cyborg   10 years ago

        Why the FUCK aren't YOU WRITING for REASON, MOTHERFUCKER? Your finger prods are fucking textual bliss, sir Tox. My shit is fucking brain waves deep-fried in galaxy oils- worth dimebags and beards snipped from dead homeless superheroes. Jesus fucking Christ what a horrible fucking thought. dead homeless superheroes and hyenas. SUPER FUCKING HYENAS... I meant heroines... Heroines are not HYENAS what the fuck, really.

        1. ThisWoodchipperKillsFascists   10 years ago

          Let me know if you ever publish this stuff.

  39. Purple Circle   10 years ago

    FWIW: In the early 90's my wife and I attended a creative conference. In the Q&A session of a game developers presentation he was asked why he did not make more games for "Girls."

    He answered that he would consider it when he saw several pick up trucks with the bumper sticker "She Who Dies With The Most Toys Wins!"

    (As noted in the comments) If you want to make something different, make it. Complaining about what is makes you average or below.

    1. Notorious G.K.C.   10 years ago

      Sock-Darning Armageddon? Extreme Conversation? Shoe Sale Mayhem?

      1. Purple Circle   10 years ago

        The quote was "toys" not "shoes." Just hink of the in app purchases for footwear you won't wear ie can't afford.

        1. Agile Cyborg   10 years ago

          NOT GKC is a delirious little peddler of love who floats concentrically around very red planets and from time to time will stomp on the brake peddle of his or her spacecraft to offer dribbles of thoughts and wanton musings when Reason threads float close to his or her little orbit on that fucking galaxy all the bitches at the Nasa haven't found yet.

  40. Agile Cyborg   10 years ago

    If you spit on your dick and fuck a vagina you do risk giving your lover a uti if you have a mouth infection however subtle or unnoticed... Mature lovers know this. But even with a goddamn condom the fucking prons are teaching people bad habits relating to sliding cock into pussy. If you lube your cock with spit before fucking a dry pussy your mouth sweat holds the potential to fuck her up with a uti unless your fucking teeth and gums are clean as a Cadillac.

    Best bet? Don't fucking spit a tongue loogey on your dick before getting lucky. Your favorite vagina will be happy to please you when its piss hole isn't bleeding bacteria vikings.

    1. All-Seeing Woodchipper   10 years ago

      Not to mention that it's just crass behavior.

      If your lover's pussy isn't wet enough for you to fuck it, let her girlfriend lick it some more.

  41. Akira   10 years ago

    The Left seems to have this idea that the Right is fighting tooth and nail to ban violent video games, and it makes my blood boil. I'm know there are plenty of Republicans who have pushed for such restrictions, but it's pretty disingenuous to imply that the Left doesn't do the same exact thing.

    I remember the outrage from the Left when Wayne LaPierre made those dumb comments about violent video games, which, for the record, did not seem to be calling for a ban. And the NRA has not taken any action since then against violent video games.

    Yet, around this same time (after Sandy Hook) Dianne Feinstein claims that mass shooters might be using these video games to rehearse for their massacres, and says that "Congress might have to take action" on violent video games.

    So where's the outrage over that? Why does the Left continue this Narrative? that only right-wingers are against violent video games?

    1. Notorious G.K.C.   10 years ago

      (a) They're stupid

      OR

      (b) they think their followers are stupid

      OR

      (c) both a and b

    2. Pan Zagloba   10 years ago

      Something about motes and beams? But I'm pretty sure after GTA V petition (success) and getting Hatred off Steam (this failed), they now don't even pretend they don't want to censor. In NRA's case, I think it was simply "he says this, thus it's wrong, ATTACK!"

    3. SIV   10 years ago

      I'm know there are plenty of Republicans who have pushed for such restrictions

      Everybody seems to "know" this but I haven't found any yet. Perhaps among the useful ranks of "GOP lawmakers" in state assemblies? Maybe some Democrat in California who switched parties sometime after calling for a ban? Diane Feinstein is a secret Republican?

      Which kultur TEAM hates toy guns, "war toys" and other forms of "violent" play? The fucking Blue one.

      The NRA seems to be the most popular culprit only their record is based on a single press conference after Sandy Hook in which Wayne LaPierre threw the kitchen sink of Team Blue bugaboos against the wall to see what would stick. They've never called for any ban , much less spent a nickel or lifted a finger to lobby for one.

      Scott Shackford uses "right-winger " as shorthand for bad people who want to ban stuff. Maybe you don't give a damn if he is smearing right-wingers(far right or extreme right as the media calls them) like Rand Paul, Justin Amash or Thomas Massie. Any good university education will teach young videogamers that free markets, individual liberty, or lately free speech, are bad "right-wing" stuff.

    4. Suicidy by Woodchipper   10 years ago

      More turds on the left like Al Gore and his bitch ex-brood sow, Tipper, have pushed for censorship than anyone on the Right. Most hard right people I know under 50 LIKE violent video games to some degree. Many play games like Call of Duty, or the GTA series.

      So, as usual, the left can just fuck off.

  42. JeremyR   10 years ago

    What really pisses me off is that people like her completely ignore an entire segment of gaming that caters to women (and employs a lot of women) - casual gaming.

  43. Suicidy by Woodchipper   10 years ago

    I like my games violent, with lots of hot big-titted babes. They can be strong. As long as they're hot. I don't want to pay for uggo content Also, no fat chicks. I see enough of that in real life

    1. MarkLastname   10 years ago

      Fat chicks are fine for comic relief. Actually, one of these developers ought to make a game that follows that feminist prescriptions to a T, it'd be hilarious. You get to play as the metrosexual hipster guy with a lisp or the mustachioed lesbian. If you're the guy, you're love interest is 200 lbs overweight trailer trash. Fights are breaking out everywhere, and to win you have to use nonviolent conflict resolution to solve them, and if that doesn't work, you get points for running away.

  44. Ceci n'est pas un woodchipper   10 years ago

    Anita Sarkeesian: the Al Sharpton of millenial feminism. Discuss.

  45. GamerFromJump   10 years ago

    http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmw.....rExistence

    Cry of leftists and SJWs everywhere (but I repeat myself).

    It's not enough for there to be alternatives to their "enemy" competing in the marketplace*, the "enemy" must be *removed*.

    * not that leftists believe in markets; people might make the "wrong" choices, after all.

  46. dpbisme   10 years ago

    Being a radical liberal means you only see your own point of view... Problem is that the Liberals are louder, control the media, the Presidency, and the Democratic Party.

    In many ways they left is more fascist because they want ALL AMERICANS in every State to do it their way? So much for the "little laboratories of democracy" we used to have and letting people live their own lives. So called "experts" or smart people tell us how to live.

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  48. XM   10 years ago

    I don't buy games that borders on exploitation. No GTA games for me. I stopped playing Mortal Kombat years ago.

    Since GTA gaes flies off the shelves, I can only arrive at one of two conclusions - (1) all the fans of that game are right wingers (2) the PC libs who blab about treating women with decency and hating torture won't uphold their cause in practice.

  49. JVTENN   10 years ago

    I take some exception to this article and some comments. It does not appear that she is calling for government regulation of video games. Just that the glorification of violence in video games is disturbing. Libertarianism is supposed to be about the free flow of ideas and the ability people to influence each other without the government. I personally think heroin should be legal. I also would staunchly voice my opinion on why people should not do heroin. I don't allow my kids to play war games as I am anti-war and believe them to be pro war propaganda. I also voice this opinion to my friends. I don't think these games should be illegal, just ignored. The "free market" does not bare things in a vacuum. People research, discuss, market and try to influence. Then, if the market is free, (which we do not have by the way) the will of the public is brought to be. Reason should not collude the exchange of ideas concerning morality about them with regulation and neither should its readers.

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