Waco Shooting Between Cossacks and Bandidos Gangs Leave 9 Dead, 18 Injured
Rival motorcycle gangs shot up a restaurant in Waco, Texas. From a local TV station's report:
Sunday afternoon, Waco Police, assisted by Department of Public Safety troopers, police officers from several cities and deputies from the McLennan County Sheriff's Office were surrounding the Twin Peaks Restaurant, in the Central Texas Market Place after several people were reported shot during a rival motorcycle gang fight, Waco police Sgt. W. Patrick Swanton said.
Police initially said three gangs were involved, but later said factions from at least five gangs took part in the melee.
Police and troopers were in the parking lot trying to secure the area and protect citizens when a fight broke out inside the restaurant and spilled into the parking lot.
Swanton said the fight quickly escalated from fists and feet to chains, clubs and knives, then to gunfire.
Gang members were shooting at each other and officers at the scene fired their weapons, as well, Swanton said.
Other patrons in Twin Peaks and some employees locked themselves in a freezer to escape the fight.
The scene at the Market Place between Don Carlos and Twin Peaks was absolute chaos, Swanton said.
"It is one of the most violent scene I've seen in my 34 years as a police officer in Waco," Swanton said.
Swanton said officers recovered more than 100 weapons from the scene and there were several vehicles that had bullet holes in them.
Swanton said no officers and no civilians were injured.
Swanton of the Waco police department told the Waco Tribune that the management of the restaurant was at least partly to blame:
"The management wanted them here," Swanton said of Twin Peaks officials. "Management knew that there were issues, and we were here, but they continued to let those groups of people into their business."
While members from five gangs have been implicated, the main confrontation was between the Bandidos, founded in 1966 by a Vietnam vet, and the Cossacks, founded in 1969.
According to the 2013 National Gang Threat Assessment, "outlaw motorcycle gangs" account for 2.5 percent of gang members nationwide but present a bigger threat to law enforcement efforts than that small percentage represents.
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Is this the Libertarian Moment?
Was the shootout over a gay wedding cake?
Speaking of bikers and gays...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-LZnOTz5OQU
"They rode a lonely road marked 'Detour' through a straight world...."
"Black is not only beautiful (...pause...) it's good."
Wow.
WERE ANY MILLENNIALS INJURED? HOW DO THEY FEEL ABOUT IT?
its never too early in the morning to drop a heaping turd of a comment, is it? we could always use another hunorless, thoughtless copy+paste of a dessicated years old in-joke.
by all means dont stop now. where is the brave soul who will reach deep into his fetid imagination to give birth to the latest "X is no different that Adam Lanza" stroke of commenting genius?
These cliches let us down, like the Cleveland Browns.
"Management knew that there were issues, and we were here, but they continued to let those groups of people into their business."
'Those groups of people'? Don't you get sued for discrimination for saying stuff like that? And Bandidos sounds very Hispanic-Amercan to me.
I thought the purpose of business was to serve customers and the purpose of police is to keep the peace. Seems like somebody doesn't want to do their job.
Yeah.. My concern though is - they are blaming management, but I'm not sure what could have been done. Aside from risking a beating from a gang, can a business owner even turn away customers these days? Or you open yourself to a lawsuit?
If they don't blame a private business who can they blame? Surely not the government, who is tasked with keeping order.
I suppose they could have hired security and made it a policy to turn away anyone wearing colors, but what would have been the reason to take on that expense and trouble? Has there been a history of gang violence at this establishment? The article doesn't say.
made it a policy to turn away anyone wearing colors
Turn away a person of colors?! Don't even think about it!
I suppose they could have hired security and made it a policy to turn away anyone wearing colors
A blues bar I used to frequent has a sign up that says, "Bikers are welcome but do not wear your colors." Enforcement is probably helped by the fact that the owner is very friendly with some of the local cops.
Other articles did say that the biker gangs regularly patronized the Waco Twin Peaks and the breastaurant did not throw them out or ban them from the property.
Someone, somewhere, is printing faded "Waco" tee shirts in anticipation of giving Hollister a run for its money.
Color me skeptical given the chaos, but that would be remarkable.
If the fight escalated in the way the news claims, it is possible the regular people fled before the guns came out.
Also, apparently the staff who couldn't flee made the wise decision to hide in a metal box away from the violent people.
Apparently the cooks and waitresses should have been breaking up the fight between gangs at the "clubs and chains" phase instead hiding...
Apparently the cooks and waitresses should have been breaking up the fight between gangs at the "clubs and chains" phase instead hiding...
^^^^this is why they need a $15/hr minimum wage!!!!
Maybe, but I'm still hearing contradictory accounts. So I'll wait and see what the evidence shows.
By the end only one guy will have been slightly injured. The news is so unreliable.
Or everyone shot was hit by police bullets.
Also, restaurants name: 'Twin Peaks'. Haha. Is that a poor man's 'Hooters'?
Actually it's a rich mans "Hooters" with better food and cuter outfits.
I've also been wondering if we'll find out that everyone dead was killed by the police.
I think so? the news reports imply that police were on scene when the fight started.
"'It is one of the most violent scene[s] I've seen in my 34 years as a police officer in Waco,' Swanton said."
Given that he was a Waco police officer in 1993, I understand Sergeant Swanton choosing the phrase "one of the most violent" scenes.
This.
Cool! I know I'm a bad person for enjoying the hell out of this story.
I need to know the body counts by gang, weapons used, and how it went down,
When does the DVD come out?
It is one of the most violent scene I've seen in my 34 years as a police officer in Waco...
I can think of scene in Waco 22 years ago that was way more violent.
Was he there though? Didn't the feds exclude the locals?
"ONE OF", DUH!
That was my point, above.
I blame Stand Your Ground.
According to the 2013 National Gang Threat Assessment, "outlaw motorcycle gangs" account for 2.5 percent of gang members nationwide
But you'd better take this factoid with a grain of meth salt: Due to inconclusive reporting and lack of confidence in estimates collected from the [National Gang Survey], the [National Gang Threat Assessment] does not contain numbers or estimates of gang members in the United States.
Bath salts?
can a business owner even turn away customers these days? Or you open yourself to a lawsuit?
Fucking lawyers. They travel in packs, preying on te weak.
Imagine if they refused to serve a gang of gay bikers.
I believe in niche markets.
If these guys want to congregate in "biker bars" and get slobbering drunk and/or beat on each other for amusement, I have no problem with that. Hell, they can fight duels and do full contact motorcycle jousting in the parking lot, for all I care.
JUST DON'T INVOLVE UNWILLING OBSERVERS/PARTICIPANTS.
its interesting that firearms didnt come into play until the police became involved, at least according to the current reports.
And I thought stuff like this only happened in 60s/70s biker movies.
Sons of Anarchy For Real! Wow.
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Dang - this was startlingly ...on point.
Viral marketing for "Mad Max" movie?
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I'll vent here - ALL the critics were wrong about this movie [including Reason's]. It didn't suck-suck, but it made two hours of road rage and mayhem boring. How do you do that?
Forty comments and not one joke about 1%ers?
I am disappoint.
The police were already there to secure the area before the fight broke out? The police were said to be at "one location or another"? ABC has now closed the bar for a week because of the shooting? WTF?
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