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Court Says PATRIOT Act Doesn't Allow Mass Data Collection, Media Censored as Brits Vote, New York Allows Bitcoin Exchange: P.M. Links

Scott Shackford | 5.7.2015 4:30 PM

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    The Second Circuit Court of Appeals has ruled that mass collection of Americans' phone metadata by the National Security Agency is not actually authorized by the PATRIOT Act. The court panel did not address constitutional matters.

  • The Senate overwhelmingly approved a bipartisan bill giving Congress the chance to review and possibly veto any nuclear deal with Iran.
  • While the Brits turn out to vote today, media law there forbids outlets from discussing much about actual election issues and policies. No surveys or exit polls are permitted. There is even controversy surrounding people tweeting whom they've voted for.
  • Attorney General Loretta Lynch said she'll be deciding soon whether she will launch a civil rights investigation into the Baltimore Police Department.
  • Hillary Clinton may complain about all the "unaccountable money" in politics, but it didn't stop her from meeting with potential donors to a Super PAC that supports her.
  • New York has granted a charter to a bitcoin exchange, a first for the state.
  • Mario Kart in real life? Universal has signed a deal with Nintendo to use the video game company's characters on theme park rides.

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  1. Fist of Etiquette   10 years ago

    ...phone metadata by the National Security Agency is not actually authorized by the PATRIOT Act.

    Arrests pending.

    1. Rufus J. Firefly   10 years ago

      Hello.

      'While the Brits turn out to vote today, media law there forbids outlets from discussing much about actual election issues and policies. No surveys or exit polls are permitted. There is even controversy surrounding people tweeting whom they've voted for.'

      When is it officially acceptable to deem Britain a tyrannical shit hole?

      1. grrizzly   10 years ago

        From the Telegraph website, right now.

        As voting closes at 10pm, the counting begins and candidates discover their fates. Join us for live coverage of the exit polls and the results

        Looks like they have exit polls.

      2. Ted S.   10 years ago

        I think New Zealand does the same thing. It's daft.

        Doesn't Canada embargo general election results until all the polls in BC/YT are closed?

        1. Rufus J. Firefly   10 years ago

          Not that I'm aware of. Could be.

        2. Paul.   10 years ago

          As long as they're broadcast in both English and French, no.

        3. rts   10 years ago

          Yes [for Canada]

        4. Pan Zagloba   10 years ago

          They do indeed. There were vapors few years ago when US blogs reported the results live, and, oh no, we can't regulate them!

        5. Cytotoxic   10 years ago

          I thought Canada ended it's ban on televising election results from the east coast before the west coast voted?

          1. Free Society   10 years ago

            I thought Canada ended it's ban on televising election results from the east coast before the west coast voted?

            That is of course to mitigate the influence of fair-weather-voters, the existence of whom to begin with is a direct indictment of democracy's legitimacy.

        6. Raven Nation   10 years ago

          When I lived in Oz, there was no election coverage allowed 72 hours prior.

      3. Paul.   10 years ago

        Yesterday.

      4. BigT   10 years ago

        When is it officially acceptable to deem Britain a tyrannical shit hole?

        1774 !!

      5. Zeb   10 years ago

        The UK has always been tyrannical. They just used to make less use of their tyranny. A tyrant is a tyrant whether he uses his powers for good or evil or not at all. Any rights (in the legally protected sense) that British subjects may have have been granted to them by their government and/or monarch and can be taken away at any time.
        Whether or not it is a shithole is a matter of opinion. I think Britain is rather nice for the most part.

        Of course that is the case everywhere. But at least in the US we in theory have rights that the government can't infringe.

        1. Libertarian   10 years ago

          "They just used to make less use of their tyranny"

          There may be a few former colonies who would beg to differ.

          1. Zeb   10 years ago

            Fair enough. I should restate it. They have made varying use of it over the years.

            1. Libertarian   10 years ago

              I know what you meant. Just being snarky.

        2. Libertymike   10 years ago

          Topographically, compared to Ireland, it is a shithole. But, a 1000 shades of green may not be everyone's cup of tea, pardon the pun.

        3. Rufus J. Firefly   10 years ago

          Perhaps Zeb. Except when you read English history they do quite a bit of bragging about being enlightened for having fostered liberty.

          /flings pack of mayo at Zeb.

        4. Robert   10 years ago

          Then mankind is tyrannic. Each of us has the power to kill anyone we can reach, & it's just matter of how many of us use restraint.

          Every man a king, for as long as s/he can get away w it.

      6. Suthenboy   10 years ago

        "When is it officially acceptable to deem Britain a tyrannical shit hole?"

        Hell, we are long past that point. They are so far down the rabbit hole that you can't see them.

      7. robc   10 years ago

        1776

      8. Robert   10 years ago

        But you at least understand the impulse, don't you? It's like they want a fair trial, with the jury sequestered and a gag order.

        If we could actually elect public officials like that, with all the voters in a room, no declarations of candidacy outside the room, no news in or out, & nobody allowed out until a result is decided on, I'd prefer it. Anyone known to have expressed interest outside the room in running for the office is disqualified.

  2. Fist of Etiquette   10 years ago

    There is even controversy surrounding people tweeting whom they've voted for.

    So Princess Charlotte got voted out?

    1. Jerry on the sea   10 years ago

      You can't vote for monkeys...well maybe in Britain you can.

      1. Fist of Etiquette   10 years ago

        They're changing its name because they can't prove that monkey's ancestors are inbred.

    2. Ted S.   10 years ago

      If anything, the people would likely vote her in.

      She couldn't be any worse than the 600+ people who actually will win seats.

      1. Jerry on the sea   10 years ago

        "Monarchies are undemocratic, that's why we have elections between the Bush and Clinton families every few years."

  3. Fist of Etiquette   10 years ago

    Attorney General Loretta Lynch said she'll be deciding soon whether she will launch a civil rights investigation into the Baltimore Police Department.

    It's like they want me to take that department's side.

    1. Zeb   10 years ago

      Contrarianism will only get you so far, Fist.

    2. Enough About Palin   10 years ago

      You don't find cuffing, shackling and then rough-riding a man to death a violation of the guy's civil rights?

      1. BiMonSciFiCon   10 years ago

        I think he was making a L. Lynch joke, not saying the investigation isn't justified...

        1. Fist of Etiquette   10 years ago

          Oh, if Fist of Etiquette said it, it must be a joke. He couldn't possibly be making a valid, cogent point on a controversial topic of the day. He's just a clown to amuse you.

          1. Zeb   10 years ago

            Yes, and?

            1. Fist of Etiquette   10 years ago

              ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED?

              1. Zeb   10 years ago

                Yea.

              2. HeteroPatriarch   10 years ago

                Meh.

  4. Fist of Etiquette   10 years ago

    Hillary Clinton may complain about all the "unaccountable money" in politics, but it didn't stop her from meeting with potential donors to a Super PAC that supports her.

    But at least no one is talking about her email server anymore.

    1. Pan Zagloba   10 years ago

      "This is different - you bet this money is well counted!"

  5. rts   10 years ago

    Norway strikes down blasphemy laws (Google translated version here

    After the attack on satire magazine Charlie Hebdo in Paris on January 7 this year, however, felt parliament Anders B. Werp and Jan Arild Ellingsen that needed immediate action .

    1. Tonio   10 years ago

      Well, a ray of hope at least.

  6. Fist of Etiquette   10 years ago

    The Senate overwhelmingly approved a bipartisan bill giving Congress the chance to review and possibly veto any nuclear deal with Iran.

    Open purse, remove balls, eh, Congress?

  7. rts   10 years ago

    Hail to the King, baby

    A protester who shouted an obscenity about the Dutch king could face up to five years in prison and a fine of more than 20,000 euros under a 19th-century law against insulting the monarch, prosecutors said on Thursday.

    1. Bam!   10 years ago

      We need a "Everybody Draw Dutch King" day.

      1. Enough About Palin   10 years ago

        We need an "Everybody Shout an Obscenity about the Dutch King" day

        1. Fist of Etiquette   10 years ago

          They have a king? What a bunch of idiots.

        2. waffles   10 years ago

          That's everyday in my household. Fuck the Dutch King.

          1. HeteroPatriarch   10 years ago

            Shout, not type.

    2. Swiss Servator, Switzier!   10 years ago

      Weg met de koning! Breng terug de Stadhouder!

      1. Ted S.   10 years ago

        Dutch is just German with a really bad accent.

        1. Rhywun   10 years ago

          To me it sounds a little like German with your throat stuffed with cotton balls plus a perfectly clear English word thrown in here and there.

    3. Winston   10 years ago

      How's the rabbit doing?

      1. Winston   10 years ago

        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis_Bonaparte

        Allegedly, his Dutch was initially so poor that he told the people he was the "Konijn van 'Olland" ("Rabbit of 'Olland"), rather than "Koning van Holland" ("King of Holland").

    4. Fist of Etiquette   10 years ago

      There's only two things I hate in this world. People who are intolerant of other people's cultures... and the Dutch.

    5. Zeb   10 years ago

      "The law dates from the 19th Century, but still exists like many other old laws. We have to enforce it."

      In the country that invented de facto drug legalization, that seems a bit odd to say.

    6. R C Dean   10 years ago

      Well, dunno about you, but Queen Maxima scores major points with me on two counts:

      (1) Her name.

      (2) Her milfiness.

      http://tinyurl.com/lpjdgjt

      Had to tinyurl the link due to stupid character limit. You can trust me, though. Right?

      1. Beautiful Bean Footage   10 years ago

        Holy fuck. I'll sign up to help produce royal progeny...

      2. HeteroPatriarch   10 years ago

        She looks like the chick from Scrubs' mom.

      3. DesigNate   10 years ago

        Noice!

      4. HeteroPatriarch   10 years ago

        It's good to be the King.

      5. Jimbo   10 years ago

        I'd like to ride that Maxima.

        Alternatively:

        Hey Maxima, let's repopulate Europe!

  8. Grand Moff Serious Man   10 years ago

    While the Brits turn out to vote today, media law there forbids outlets from discussing much about actual election issues and policies. No surveys or exit polls are permitted. There is even controversy surrounding people tweeting whom they've voted for.

    It is legal, however, to show up a polling station drunk or with alcohol. You can vote plastered as long as you don't cause a disruption.

    Explains a lot about UK politics, don't it?

    1. Hamster of Doom   10 years ago

      Is it widespread? I would imagine Farage does better with a drunken populace.

    2. Zeb   10 years ago

      Are you not supposed to vote drunk in the US? No one ever told me.

      1. Ted S.   10 years ago

        You can vote with fairly advanced dementia. Mom voted last November.

  9. rts   10 years ago

    B.C. First Nation turns down $1B for LNG project

    All of the more than 180 eligible voters at a meeting in Port Simpson stood up to oppose the plan to build a liquefied-natural-gas pipeline and terminal in their territory, said Lax Kw'alaams band member Malcolm Sampson.

    Pacific NorthWest LNG, which is mostly owned by Malaysia-based oil and gas giant Petronas, has applied to build an export terminal on Lelu Island, just south of Prince Rupert at the head of the Skeena River.

    Residents have raised concerns over the project's environmental impact, citing the site's problematic location and the threat it poses to the watershed.

    1. Tonio   10 years ago

      Petronas curse!

    2. Ted S.   10 years ago

      No more government welfare for them.

  10. Notorious G.K.C.   10 years ago

    Why, hello there, Zeb and Francisco -

    At 2:38, Zeb made certain accusations against me. I asked him to prove those allegations by 4:30. He didn't. I invoted Francisco to join the party and provide his own proof. He didn't.

    http://reason.com/blog/2015/05.....nt_5285291

    So I'm going to throw this fact in their faces the next time they bring up the same tired allegations. You seem really confident in these charges you aren't willing even to try to prove!

    1. Tonio   10 years ago

      Wait, you're the same person who whined for months about me "stalking" you when I did that. And now you're imitating me? Sincerest form of flattery, and all. Thanks.

      Also, bad form to give them an arbitrary deadline (h/t RC). But any posts they make after the fact are fair game for continuing an earlier discussion.

      1. Notorious G.K.C.   10 years ago

        "now you're imitating me?"

        By stalking you?

        1. Tonio   10 years ago

          By "stalking" others, using your own definition. Don't be dense, Eddie.

          1. Notorious G.K.C.   10 years ago

            Just for fun, what is my definition, as you see it?

            1. Enough About Palin   10 years ago

              Are you Bo's dad?

              1. Notorious G.K.C.   10 years ago

                I don't know, the DNA tests haven't come in yet.

                1. Trouser-Pod   10 years ago

                  come in

                  ahem...ISWYDT

              2. Zeb   10 years ago

                Maybe Bo is a clone of Eddie, but raised by Protestants.

                1. Notorious G.K.C.   10 years ago

                  Bo's mother sent in the DNA of several football-team members, and they'll get to my DNA only after analyzing those other samples.

    2. GILMORE   10 years ago

      hmmm, what?

      "The problem is that you introduce religion into absolutely everything."

      oh, that.

    3. Bo Cara Esq.   10 years ago

      What the? Eddie, please get over yourself.

      1. Notorious G.K.C.   10 years ago

        Nothing worse than an egomaniac, isn't there, Bo?

        1. Bo Cara Esq.   10 years ago

          It's a bit crazy to show up on a thread saying "earlier today, at exactly 2:38 EST to be precise, anonymous poster Bill made some Aspersions against me. I'm going to announce now and hereafter that Bill answer for these charges until that occurs!!!'

          You're coming off as like Harding from One Flew Over the Cuckoos Nest.

          1. Notorious G.K.C.   10 years ago

            "I'm going to announce now and hereafter that Bill answer for these charges until that occurs"

            I have no idea what that even means, all I know is I didn't say it.

            1. Bo Cara Esq.   10 years ago

              Whatever Eddie. Just continue on your, er, Crusade.

              1. Notorious G.K.C.   10 years ago

                Bo: [accusation]

                Me: [refutation]

                Bo: "whatever"

                You will be an ornament of the Bar!

                1. Beautiful Bean Footage   10 years ago

                  CRIPPLE FIGHT!!

    4. Zeb   10 years ago

      Relax, dude. I do have other things to do besides argue with you. What did I accuse you of? Bringing up religion in every thread, I think? Maybe that is a slight exaggeration.
      Being tiresome? Let's put that to a vote.

      Just get over it you weirdo.

      1. Notorious G.K.C.   10 years ago

        I was simply using a fairly flamboyant method to show that you had no evidence to back up your accusation.

        ZEB: [accusation]

        ME: [refutation]

        ZEB: Oh, stop worrying about what I said.

        I'm way ahead of you - I won't take your remarks seriously any longer.

        1. Zeb   10 years ago

          Good. Don't. This isn't fucking court. Everyone knows you are the resident Catholic troll. Which is OK. You redeem yourself by being amusing and clever sometimes.

          It's all a rich tapestry.

          1. Notorious G.K.C.   10 years ago

            From other posters, I got the idea that even *responding* to a religious-themed post or comment would get me classified as "introducing religion" into a secular safe space. For instance, when I made a football joke, another commenter replied with a joke about the Catholic sacraments, and my replies were counted as "introducing religion."

            And so forth.

            1. Tonio   10 years ago

              Whine louder, Eddie, maybe someone will care.

            2. hurts_donut   10 years ago

              Got anymore scars you want to count you ridiculous gutter cunt?

        2. Warty   10 years ago

          Eddie, has your personality disorder been diagnosed? I'm just curious if what you have has a name.

      2. Ted S.   10 years ago

        He used to be particularly bad about it in the Saturday threads.

        1. Dances-with-Trolls   10 years ago

          It has been a while since Saturday Morning Abortion threadjacking was a thing. Which is nice.

          1. Notorious G.K.C.   10 years ago

            Numero uno, abortion isn't religion.

            Numero two-o, after receiving some complaints, I said I'd tone down the abortion posts, unless of course someone else brought it up.

        2. Notorious G.K.C.   10 years ago

          You mean Troll Appreciation Saturday?

          Anyway, the phrase is "used to be."

          People change. We evolve. Sunrise, sunset.

          1. Notorious G.K.C.   10 years ago

            Now, I'll say this much: I do like to Google news items on circumcision, deep-dish and the Civil War, just to keep up my trolling. That part is fairly deliberate.

      3. Redmanfms   10 years ago

        Reasonable dude.

        Eddie, Bo-Bo, and Tulpa version whatever are the only people who've merited placement on my list. There are plenty of other trolls, but those three are griefer stalkers who murder threads with dozens of posts of stupid horseshit. They're nearly as bad as Mary used to be.

        This site really is much more enjoyable if you just block out the griefer shitheads.

    5. waffles   10 years ago

      This is H&R. It doesn't matter. None of this matters!

      1. Notorious G.K.C.   10 years ago

        Hmmm...that *is* a good point.

    6. HeteroPatriarch   10 years ago

      You make me sad.

      1. Notorious G.K.C.   10 years ago

        So maybe I'm a *tad* sensitive...just forget I mentioned it.

  11. John   10 years ago

    This is so pathetic. The IRS files an appeal making a claim that has been specifically been rejected in past cases. The point of course is to halt discovery and to ensure the truth comes out during the last days of the Obama administration so it doesn't matter and the court media can ignore it as "old news" and tell anyone who is bothered by the fact that Obama weaponized the IRS to go after his opponents and is the most corrupt shit bag ever to hold the office of President that they just need to move on and get over it.

    http://www.wsj.com/articles/th.....1430953480

    1. Bo Cara Esq.   10 years ago

      If it came out near the 16 election that'd be interesting.

    2. TwB   10 years ago

      "If I were you, I would go back and ask your superiors whether they want us to represent that the government's position in this case is that the government is free to unconstitutionally discriminate against its citizens for 270 days," said Judge Garland.

      Your honor, that is their position. Don't be so shocked.

    3. Pro Libertate   10 years ago

      As bad as things can be these days, what the IRS has been used to do is quite shocking. There's really not much doubt at this point that it was "weaponized" for political purposes. Perhaps in an unprecedented manner, though I hesitate to exonerate other shithead administrations.

      1. John   10 years ago

        Totally unprecedented. Think about it, if Bush had done anything like that, you don't think we would know about it? The media wouldn't be making a huge deal out of it to vindicate Obama and attack Bush? If there is any evidence of this shit going on under Bush, I haven't seen it and I can't believe the media wouldn't have found it if it existed.

        1. Pro Libertate   10 years ago

          I'm fine arresting everyone who has done shit like this. And impeaching or otherwise removing those still in office who have.

        2. Hamster of Doom   10 years ago

          I no longer believe the media/Bush thing was as it appeared.

          Exhibit A: The media are super-sleuths, from whom no secret or panty drawer is safe, during the Bush administration. The CIA are schmucks by comparison. Any other president, they morph back to mere mortals.

          Exhibit B: Bush. BOOOOSSSHH. Dynastic family of Top Men, and you know that Great Big Club you ain't in? They aren't merely in the club, they're in the shadowy wing chairs by the fire in an unlit room, discussing the future direction of the club with the other few, select Grand High Top Men.

          New theory: The media were useless eaters used during Bush 2.0 as an extremely effective distraction, and very little they published wasn't just fine by the PTB.

  12. Fist of Etiquette   10 years ago

    Universal has signed a deal with Nintendo to use the video game company's characters on theme park rides.

    Italians are the last group you can stereotype with impunity.

    1. rts   10 years ago

      Mamma mia!

      1. Notorious G.K.C.   10 years ago

        As between Mario and Luigi, which is the organ grinder and which is the monkey?

        1. Zeb   10 years ago

          Donkey Kong.

    2. Tonio   10 years ago

      No, white, working-class Southerners and Appalachians are.

      1. PBR Streetgang   10 years ago

        This. Absolutely.

        1. Tonio   10 years ago

          Yeah, pay close attention next Halloween when the Native Americans start whining about cultural appropriation and stereotyping, yet nobody says anything about "hillbilly" costumes with black stuff that makes it look like you're missing teeth. No double-standard there.

          1. waffles   10 years ago

            #punchingdowns

            1. HeteroPatriarch   10 years ago

              Waffles makes a good point. You can still make fun of retards.

      2. Pro Libertate   10 years ago

        Without a doubt. Hypocrisy galore.

  13. GILMORE   10 years ago

    Douchebag Wonders Why People Don't Celebrate His Awesomeness

    ""A lot of people outside New York City understand what happened in the first year of New York City better than people in New York City," de Blasio said in the interview, published online on Wednesday. "But I'm convinced something very special happened here.""

    The actual citizens paying to fund his Special-As-Fuck Programs, like former Central Park Carriage Drivers, are less enthused

    1. John   10 years ago

      Yeah, he is special alright, though not in the way the voices in his head say he is.

    2. Swiss Servator, Switzier!   10 years ago

      I love it - let the muttering indifference of a million New Yawkers flow!

      1. GILMORE   10 years ago

        The condescension is unbelievable

        Given he's been in office 1 fucking year?

        ...a year noted for silly, petty things like the Horse-Carriage ban

        ...his desperation to shut down wildly-successful charter schools to please the Teachers Union masters... and blow a few hundred million on "universal Pre-K" that only a small # really want....

        ... his waffling about stop & frisk... basically jumping between pandering to police protestors, then protesting police, satisfying no one and fucking over both....

        oh, yeah, he's a fucking Superstar. Only Rolling Stone has the literary skills to spin that.

    3. Fist of Etiquette   10 years ago

      What the fuck special thing does he think happened?

    4. Slumbrew   10 years ago

      ... the first year of New York City...

      The first year? So he declared his election Year Zero? Nice, taking pointers from the Khmer Rouge. Well done, Billy.

    5. Rhywun   10 years ago

      I actually think there's a good chance he'll get tossed out on his ass next election. His various coalitions are fighting each other and people are starting to realize they elected a full-on communist. I mean, we're not Berkeley here - there is a limit.

    6. HeteroPatriarch   10 years ago

      Did he really refer to his administration as "the first year of New York City?" That's pretty spectacularly arrogant. Almost Obama-esque.

  14. Rufus J. Firefly   10 years ago

    Khadr released:

    http://yhoo.it/1H3ZoRF

    Not exactly our finest moment.

    1. Libertymike   10 years ago

      He was tried by a kangaroo court at Gitmo. He was tortured.

      What, pray tell, are his crimes? Killing invaders?

      Stop drinking the NSA, CIA, FBI and War on Terrah Kool-Aid.

    2. Cytotoxic   10 years ago

      Why isn't our finest moment? He never got real due process.

  15. Pan Zagloba   10 years ago

    It's good to be the king!

    1. Pan Zagloba   10 years ago

      Dammit, that was supposed to be in response to Dutch king thing above. Oh well, the statement can stand on its own...

  16. John   10 years ago

    http://twitchy.com/2015/05/07/.....ace-issue/

    MTA officer graciously gives Sally Kohn a break because she forgot her fair money. Kohn says thank you by calling him a racist on twitter.

    No matter what else media Progs are, they are most certainly absolutely awful people.

    1. Notorious G.K.C.   10 years ago

      I knew her name seemed familiar:

      "I'm gay. And I want my kid to be gay, too....

      "My friend wrote back with a slew of helpful advice, ending with a punch to my gut: "Bet it wouldn't bother you so much if [Kohn's daughter's] crush was on a girl."

      "She was right. I'm a slightly overbearing pro-gay gay mom. But I'm going to support my daughter, whatever choices she makes."

      http://sallykohn.com/2015/02/w.....ghter-gay/

      1. John   10 years ago

        That is so fucked up words fail. Andrew is right. That woman is just profoundly stupid.

        1. Scruffy Nerfherder   10 years ago

          Utter and complete bitch is more like it.

      2. Red Rocks Rockin   10 years ago

        I'm a slightly overbearing pro-gay gay mom. But I'm going to support my daughter, whatever choices she makes."

        Interesting choice of words there, Sally. Who wants to bet that either 1) her kid "chooses" to be a lesbian just to get her Mom off her back, or 2) she goes into full on "FUCK YOU, MOMS!" mode and marries a SoCon out of sheer spite?

    2. Andrew S.   10 years ago

      You just don't know Sally Kohn's genius, John. She was able to peer into the MTA officer's mind and discern that he never would've done such a thing for a poor person or a PoC. Ergo, she was right to call him a racist.

      For shame, John. For shame.

      (in all seriousness, Sally Kohn may be the dumbest person on the internet. For real.)

      1. Scruffy Nerfherder   10 years ago

        Dumb is giving her too much goodwill. She's a rank bitch who cares nothing for those around her other than how she can use them to advance her own public image.

    3. Grand Moff Serious Man   10 years ago

      This is the same Sally Kohn who argued fiercely that government laws are not backed up by violence or even threats of violence. Which makes me wonder why she didn't just hop the turnstile since obviously nothing would have happened to her.

    4. Suthenboy   10 years ago

      They are useful idiots. Their ability to think rationally has been destroyed. They are programmed to respond to any and every situation like this. This is the evil of leftism.

  17. Grand Moff Serious Man   10 years ago

    Mario Kart in real life? Universal has signed a deal with Nintendo to use the video game company's characters on theme park rides.

    Will I get to throw actual turtle shells and banana peels at people? If so I'm in.

    1. Bam!   10 years ago

      Turns out banana peels don't stop a kart.

      1. Andrew S.   10 years ago

        BANANA PEELS DON'T MELT STEEL BEAMS

  18. Viscount Irish, Slayer of Huns   10 years ago

    Jewish political reporter assaulted by anti-Semitic members of George Galloway's Islamo-centric "Respect Party."

    The article also includes the pretty frightening revelation that Pakistani immigrants engage in 'clan voting' where basically the patriarch of the family tells everyone else how to vote, so powerful men are capable of turning their families into miniature voting machines and can basically engage in political corruption by promising candidates 20, 30, or 40 votes. When you combine that with postal voting, it's possible for the patriarch to actually CHECK AND MAKE SURE that people are voting the way he told them before the ballots are sent out, which means the secret ballot is effectively neutered and you're returned to the era of 1875 political bosses.

    I think Britain might be headed in a bad direction.

    1. John   10 years ago

      That is how it works in tribal societies. If you let these people in your country and not only do nothing to force them to give up their tribal ways and worse encourage them to remain that way, you will end up with a tribal society yourself.

    2. Viscount Irish, Slayer of Huns   10 years ago

      Then George Galloway chimes in and accuses the reporter of being a filthy Jews instigator:

      "This is quite clearly a stunt by you and a deliberate provocation and the timing of it confirms that this is a calculated attempt to smear me and affect my electoral prospects."

      1. Agammamon   10 years ago

        Well George - if your supporters didn't assault a man then you wouldn't have been tainted by association now would you?

    3. Winston   10 years ago

      Lew Rockwell is a big Galloway fan. I suppose Richman and Raimondo and Greenwald are too.

    4. Tonio   10 years ago

      Fuck. It's too late for England. I hope Scotland secedes for this reason alone.

      1. Ted S.   10 years ago

        Scotland is awful in its own way.

        1. Slumbrew   10 years ago

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G1tJJO_pVvQ

      2. Red Rocks Rockin   10 years ago

        No way it will ever happen. Scotland is the New Mexico of the UK--it doesn't really belong in the country it's nominally a part of, but it's such a pathetic welfare state that it would collapse if it ever broke away.

      3. HeteroPatriarch   10 years ago

        Didn't Scotland already not secede?

      4. Suthenboy   10 years ago

        Whut?

        Scotland is worse. The Limeys are just trying to catch up.

    5. Pan Zagloba   10 years ago

      Yup. The mayor of Tower Hamlets, "diverse" London township, got removed when journalists launched a private complaint about his behavior. Mass postal voting fraud (in favor of Labour party) has been going on for a decade, and is one of the primary reasons for Labour changing immigration rules to let in millions of third-world (mostly Pakistani and African) immigrants into the country, because as Commonwealth citizens, they get to vote.

    6. Andrew S.   10 years ago

      I posted this in the mourning lynx. George Galloway is truly an odious human being.

      1. Slumbrew   10 years ago

        Yeah, Galloway is terrible person even for a politician.

    7. DesigNate   10 years ago

      Headed?

  19. Jerry on the sea   10 years ago

    Hillary Clinton...meeting with potential donors to a Super PAC that supports her.

    Excellent. Because it will show the usual Democratic hypocrisy when they attack Republicans on this point. Not that they will notice.

  20. Agammamon   10 years ago

    The Senate overwhelmingly approved a bipartisan bill giving Congress the chance to review and possibly veto any nuclear deal with Iran.

    Is this what its come to.

    That Congress has so little idea of what their responsibilities and duties are that they actually went and passed a bill authorizing them to do their own fecking job?

    Any *deal* with Iran is a treaty. Its Congresses job to approve treaties.

    1. Dances-with-Trolls   10 years ago

      a bill authorizing them to do their own fecking job?

      Not even that, actually.

      Without this bill, Obama needs 67 votes to approve the Iran treaty.

      With the bill, the treaty is presumptively approved, and it takes 67 votes to disapprove of the treaty.

      1. Agammamon   10 years ago

        That's just insane.

        In a decent world, if that passed, it could be challenged and then thrown out by the SC as unconstitutional.

    2. Pan Zagloba   10 years ago

      More like, telling Obama, "hey, dickhead, we get a say, too."

      Because they know otherwise he'd be all shocked, SHOCKED, that they are obstructioneering him again.

      1. Pro Libertate   10 years ago

        If the Senate says it didn't ratify a treaty, and the treaty has components that affect citizens directly, such citizens would be fully within their rights to ignore the nonratified treaty, which is not law under the Constitution.

    3. BigT   10 years ago

      Its Congresses job to approve or reject treaties.

      FIFY

      1. Agammamon   10 years ago

        Thanks - I forget how these wankers like to tie grammar into knots to support their own ends.

        To any normal person the power to approve implies the power to *disapprove*. But not to a government apparatchik.

  21. Winston   10 years ago

    So polls in the UK elections close in about 20 minutes...

    Apparently the SNP is expected to win almost all of the Scottish seats. This is after Independence was defeated. Apparently Scots are pissed at Labour for joining with the Tories to oppose Independence. So did most Labour voters support independence and are now suddenly defecting or are Scots mad that Miliband agrees with them?

    1. Jerry on the sea   10 years ago

      I think the UK will soon be ungovernable as long as they keep Scotland attached.

    2. Pan Zagloba   10 years ago

      It's the old Block/Parti Quebecois thing.

      NO to independence, but keep voting the fuckers in to stir the pot and make sure danegeld keeps flowing from ROC.
      Scotts are the same, they want independence they don't need to pay for, and they have that now. Voting SNP just makes sure they get ever more concessions.

  22. GILMORE   10 years ago

    Muslims Get Too Much Shit For Terrorism:

    Better to focus on their far more-common and mundane awfulness, like Horrific, Unapologetic Honor Killings

    1. Tonio   10 years ago

      And genital mutilation (both sexes), and stonings of adulters, hanging of homos, etc.

      1. Ted S.   10 years ago

        And genital mutilation (both sexes)

        Uh-oh, you went there.

        Everybody knows there are more than two sexes, and your use of "both" makes you a cis-shitlord.

        1. Agammamon   10 years ago

          *whew!*

          For a minute there I thought this was heading to circumcision land.

          The world's *second* shittiest theme park.

          1. HeteroPatriarch   10 years ago

            What's the first?

            1. GILMORE   10 years ago

              STALINWORLD, Lithuania

          2. HeteroPatriarch   10 years ago

            What's the first?

            1. Pan Zagloba   10 years ago

              Squirrel Land!

    2. Viscount Irish, Slayer of Huns   10 years ago

      I don't know that this is a Muslim problem so much as a Pakistani problem. The Pakistanis are the absolute worst when it comes to this kind of thing and it's not a coincidence that the link I posted above also involved violent intimidation by Pakistanis.

      That's a messed up country, far more so than even the rest of the Middle East. You should read about what they did to Bangledeshis during their war with them - it's horrific stuff and that culture really hasn't change.

      1. Tonio   10 years ago

        Good point, Irish.

      2. Jerry on the sea   10 years ago

        The same in the UK, mostly tribal stuff from Pakistan, not necessarily Islam-related.

      3. Paul.   10 years ago

        But it was a country "created" by and for the Muslim Indian population. So why would the Pakistanis be remarkably different from Indians, other than their religious beliefs?

        1. Cytotoxic   10 years ago

          Saudis. SA has been Pakistan's patron and influence from independence.

      4. Scruffy Nerfherder   10 years ago

        I am somewhat racist towards Pakis, I'll admit it.

        1. waffles   10 years ago

          I like them too. My neighbor is a Paki. He's afraid of my dog. Sometimes he waves and mumbles something to me which I always interpret as "good morning!"

          1. GILMORE   10 years ago

            Obligatory

            "I used to live next to a housefull of Pakistanis in Santa Ana. They were all brothers or cousins or something and ran this pirate cab company, and they fought non-stop ? but I never saw a single punch thrown. It was this weird Pakistani style of fighting: they'd yell for hours before they escalated to slapping ? weird downward slaps, like elephants hitting each other with their trunks. After a couple minutes of that, they'd each retreat about five yards and look around for automotive parts to throw. They'd keep throwing till they were tired, or till they accidentally hit one of the half-fixed taxis parked in the yard. That was the only thing that sobered them up: hurting a car. When they drew blood on each other they'd cheer, but if they broke a windshield they'd instantly stop fighting and run up to the car moaning and sobbing.

            The way those cabdrivers fought is the way India and Pakistan fight ? maybe it's something in the water there. It's always low-intensity, low-risk skirmishing,"

      5. GILMORE   10 years ago

        Oh, yeah the pakis are the worst, Islam aside. those people are just a fucking disaster from top to bottom. And they've mostly been at war *with themselves* as much as they've been perpetually at war w/ India since partition.

        One of my favorite short history books is "The Story of the Malakand Field Force" where young Winston Churchill accompanied a campaign into the NWFP in 1898. the amazing thing is how many of his observations then are true today.

      6. Cytotoxic   10 years ago

        THIS. Arabs and Pakis have a degenerate culture. Islam aggravates the problem but is not the real underlying cause.

    3. Rufus J. Firefly   10 years ago

      But....CRUSADES!!!!

      1. PBR Streetgang   10 years ago

        -1 High Horse

  23. The Late P Brooks   10 years ago

    Hillary Clinton may complain about all the "unaccountable money" in politics, but it didn't stop her from meeting with potential donors to a Super PAC that supports her.

    "As President, I will do away with all the shameful moneygrubbery which demeans an otherwise noble pursuit. But for now...."

    1. Brett L   10 years ago

      Please. Like her brothers won't sack the White House a second time.

    2. Swiss Servator, Switzier!   10 years ago

      "and if anyone knows shameful moneygrubbery, its me!"

      /HC

  24. Stormy Dragon   10 years ago

    Rand Paul takes credit for winning ACLU case he had nothing to do with:

    Exclusive ? Rand Paul: We're Going To Take NSA All The Way To Supreme Court. And Win

    "We initiated a lawsuit on this over a year ago, and we are excited that the appeals court agrees with us," Paul said.

    1. Tonio   10 years ago

      You know what other politician took credit for policies he agreed with but couldn't himself enact?

      1. grrizzly   10 years ago

        Al Gore?

      2. Swiss Servator, Switzier!   10 years ago

        Phillipe Egalite?

      3. Libertarian   10 years ago

        All of them?

      4. Robert   10 years ago

        Moses?

    2. Viscount Irish, Slayer of Huns   10 years ago

      ??? He doesn't take credit. From the article:

      ""We initiated a lawsuit on this over a year ago, and we are excited that the appeals court agrees with us," Paul said."

      He initiated a class action lawsuit on the same subject, the court then agreed with another ACLU case which was substantively similar, so he's saying the court agrees with his position, not that he personally was involved with that particular lawsuit.

      1. Swiss Servator, Switzier!   10 years ago

        Forget your Highness, its Stormytown.

    3. John   10 years ago

      Since both law suits are about the same issue just in different circuits, I don't see how Paul saying that is wrong.

      1. tarran   10 years ago

        It's stormy. Few people know that her middle name is "Mendacious-Cunt-Smythe"

      2. This Machine   10 years ago

        Ignore the statist troll and save yourself some trouble, John.

    4. Paul.   10 years ago

      I read your link and it doesn't really suggest any such thing.

  25. Agammamon   10 years ago

    http://tinyurl.com/psegzjm

    Everybody with a facebook account, go say mean things about the politicians in Granby Canada.

    And *don't* post a simultaneous french translation.

  26. Winston   10 years ago

    Still nothing on Wade MacLauchlan? I'm teh disappoint.

  27. Atanarjuat   10 years ago

    I just downloaded Tinder, out of boredom almost more than loneliness. Since I'm sure you'll be on the edge of your seats, a report will be forthcoming.

    1. Tonio   10 years ago

      Good luck, and may the tentacly other-dimensional gods grant you a quick and merciful death.

      1. Sudden   10 years ago

        Close.... that's craigslist.

        1. Swiss Servator, Switzier!   10 years ago

          *chokes during frantic laughter*

          1. Atanarjuat   10 years ago

            Don't worry, I'm the creepy one. Pretty unlikely I'll meet someone, much less get eaten by them.

            1. Slumbrew   10 years ago

              ...much less get eaten by them.

              Yeah, that's unlikely. It's not like you're in Germany (you're not in Germany, are you?)

              1. Atanarjuat   10 years ago

                No, I'm more likely to get matched up with Florida Woman.

                1. Slumbrew   10 years ago

                  Yikes - I dunno, Florida is our version of Germany when it comes to fucked-up happenings - I have to think Florida is your best chance at being killed and eaten, domestically.

            2. waffles   10 years ago

              Tinder is a lot more fun if you're a chick or you pretend to be.

            3. Tonio   10 years ago

              Eaten or "eaten"?

              1. Slumbrew   10 years ago

                Eaten or "eaten"?

                The bad kind.

              2. jesse.in.mb   10 years ago

                Do you not keep up on your German cannibalism cases?

                On the bright side, it was all voluntary!

    2. Atanarjuat   10 years ago

      5 minutes in: having to permanently judge these women as worthy or not is nerve racking and unpleasant so I've given up for now.

  28. Sudden   10 years ago

    insane virtual reality theme park to open in Utah in 2016

    1. Swiss Servator, Switzier!   10 years ago

      Cthulhuland?

      1. Sudden   10 years ago

        I'm gonna have to score some supply from Agile Cyborg before going. There is a strong possibility that I would die if that was combined with a Cthulu VR Holodeck.

        1. Swiss Servator, Switzier!   10 years ago

          +1 the geometry was all wrong

  29. Caleb Turberville   10 years ago

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsround/32609272

    "Oldest known galaxy captured on camera"

    1. Horatio   10 years ago

      "Old"? Doesn't look a day over 30,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000

      1. Wasteland Wanderer   10 years ago

        Given that the universe is "only" 13,820,000,000 years old, I think you got a few extra zeroes going on there....

  30. Brett L   10 years ago

    Florida Man, parenting edition.

    Chad and Joey Mudd, of Largo, a suburb in the Tampa-St. Petersburg area, gave their daughters, ages 13 and 14, drugs as a "bargaining tool" for school attendance and doing chores, Pinellas County Sheriff's detectives said. They were arrested Monday.

    1. Hamster of Doom   10 years ago

      The link is buggered. And everyone knows giving drugs to children is bad, unless it's social workers and teachers doing it.

  31. Injun, as in from India   10 years ago

    The man was apparently a slut. (Is that a sexist comment to call a promiscuous man a slut?)

    A man for all seasons - There was far more to Keynes than being an economist

    It helps that the economist recorded his sexual statistics. In the nine months to February 1909 he records that he had 61 encounters, with 65 more the following year. Like a philatelist, Keynes kept a list of conquests: "?the actor of Whitechapel, 16-year-old under Etna, lift boy of Vauxhall, Jewboy, Grand Duke Cyril of the Paris Baths". The revolutionary economic thinker becomes "Maynard, the iron copulating machine", according to an ex-lover.

    1. Notorious G.K.C.   10 years ago

      Animal spirits.

    2. John   10 years ago

      So you are telling me he was a typical gay man.

      1. Pan Zagloba   10 years ago

        Well it's not like there was Grindr in 1909. You have to respect this kind of old-timer, elbow-grease, personal work ethic.

        1. John   10 years ago

          Yeah, you do. Sodomy was a serious crime back then. He did all of that on the down low and managed to ruin the world economy in between sodomizing 16 year old boys. You have to respect his level of effort if nothing else.

          1. Libertymike   10 years ago

            Oh, JOHN MAYNARD!

          2. Agammamon   10 years ago

            GAY AGENDA EXPOSED!

    3. Paul.   10 years ago

      It's not well publicized but Keynes would write lurid letters to under aged boys.

      I came across this back in the late 80s before the WWW.

    4. ola   10 years ago

      A philatelist? Hmmm.

      1. Notorious G.K.C.   10 years ago

        "Maybe you could get away with phalateling in the colonies, old man, but in England it simply isn't cricket."

    5. Rhywun   10 years ago

      Pics or it didn't happen.

  32. Corning   10 years ago

    "Mario Kart in real life? Universal has signed a deal with Nintendo to use the video game company's characters on theme park rides."

    Still waiting for Viacom to make that Dungeons and Dragons ride that will transport me to a world of adventure and Tiamat

    1. Caleb Turberville   10 years ago

      SimCity: The Ride

      Make it happen, Universal!

      1. Paul.   10 years ago

        But you have to be online to ride it.

      2. Agammamon   10 years ago

        Wouldn't that be exactly the same as driving to work every morning?

    2. Stormy Dragon   10 years ago

      The Dungeons and Dragons cartoon was collectivist propaganda. Mark Evanier's commented several times how he was explicitly told by the producers that every episode had to include Eric disagreeing with the rest group and then showing that this made him a bad person.

    3. sloopyinTEXAS   10 years ago

      The best amusement park attraction would have to be an IRL version of "Pitfall".

      The worst is that shit-headed Pac Man thing from that Bud Light commercial.

      1. GILMORE   10 years ago

        WITH REAL ALLIGATORS!!

        1. trshmnster the terrible   10 years ago

          real pixelated alligators!

  33. Injun, as in from India   10 years ago

    Islamofascists love the part of the 1st amendment that allows them to practise their religion freely without government intrusion, but hate the part of the 1st amendment that allows others to speak freely.

    Kansas City Mosque That Wanted to Ban Free Speech Will Hold Funeral for TX Jihadist Nadir Soofi

  34. John   10 years ago

    Wow

    http://taxprof.typepad.com/tax.....fall-.html

    Charleston Law School May Not Enroll Students In Fall; Owners Who Withdrew $25m In Profits Refuse To Pay $21k For Graduation Reception; Students With $147k Average Debt Take Up Collection

    Charleston may be a failing law school right now ? shortchanging the graduates and turning away 1Ls certainly doesn't sound like a recipe for success ? and closing up shop may be the right thing to do long-term. What Kosko and Carr should do is wrap-up operations covering the shortfall with the millions in profits they personally collected to ensure every current student gets to graduate with the same dignity as their predecessors

    1. Libertymike   10 years ago

      Wow, how?

      Just read the article and I have mixed feelings. To the extent that the owners have been rent seeking, i.e., getting the student loan money made possible by the feds, you probably know that I think they are pretty scummy. You throw in the fact that they won't pony up for the graduation, that is pretty scummy as well.

      That they were operating on a for-profit basis is something you know that the proggies and other dupes will seize upon in disparaging the owners while you will hear nothing but crickets from that crowd as regards all other schools that get fat on the student loan gravy train.

  35. GILMORE   10 years ago

    Patriarchy Hurts Everyone = FDA Likely To Deny 'Female Viagra' Approval Yet Again

    Men Everywhere Feel Slut-Rights Are Being Denied

    1. hurts_donut   10 years ago

      This is why i can't buy spanish fly anymore. Looks like I'm going to have to rely on my old go to, 4 loco.

  36. Rich   10 years ago

    Attorney General Loretta Lynch said she'll be deciding soon

    Emphasis added. Just like Holder.

  37. Injun, as in from India   10 years ago

    Waah! I am going to move to Canada! Waah!

    Oh wait - I can just ignore the rule of law and bash the country into submission.

    Some progressives grow disillusioned with democracy

    The meltdown of the Obama legislative agenda has fostered, instead, a Caesarism of the Left. This is evidenced, in part, by broad backing for the White House's ruling through executive decrees. Some progressives even suggest the president, to preserve Obamacare, should even ignore the Supreme Court, if it rules the wrong way in June.

    1. John   10 years ago

      I am pretty sure they never much cared for democracy in the first place. They just pretended to like it as long as they got their way.

      1. Winston   10 years ago

        +40 000 Reign of Terror

    2. Winston   10 years ago

      Some progressives even suggest the president, to preserve Obamacare, should even ignore the Supreme Court, if it rules the wrong way in June.

      If that does happen well, um I don't want the NSA coming for me...

    3. sloopyinTEXAS   10 years ago

      FTA: Left-leaning authors often maintain that conservatives "hate democracy," and, historically, this is somewhat true. "The political Right," maintains the progressive economist and columnist Paul Krugman, "has always been uncomfortable with democracy."

      Well, when democracy is five lazy poor fuckers voting to do with the money of two wealthy hard-workers then yeah, a lot of conservative* people would get uncomfortable with democracy.

      *Fiscal conservatives.

      1. Tonio   10 years ago

        ^This, sloopy, this.

  38. John   10 years ago

    I know this was in Reason, but man, I just thought date rape was bad.

    http://reason.com/blog/2015/05.....msi0w:QsW6

    1. Bobarian (sexbot hand model)   10 years ago

      Not for nothing, but didn't Christa Mcauliffe get fucked by NASA?

  39. Libertarian   10 years ago

    "Hillary Clinton may complain about all the "unaccountable money" "

    If it's unaccountable, can I get away with telling the next president (whoever it is) that I donated $1M to them via a PAC, so that I can get some personal favors?

  40. Derpetologist   10 years ago

    Spot the Not: Christian Superheroes

    1. Christian Knight

    2. Battle Pope

    3. Mr. Christian

    4. Captain Righteous

    5. The Confessor

    6. Bibleman

    1. Bobarian (sexbot hand model)   10 years ago

      What about this one?

    2. John   10 years ago

      Why invent them when there are real historic figures who fought the infidel? Screw Bibleman, give me Jean Parisot de Valette.

    3. Ted S.   10 years ago

      Mr. Christian oh the time has come
      And you know that you're the only one to say
      OK....

    4. GILMORE   10 years ago

      Edward the Confessor was one of the Anglo Saxon kings of England. Whoop.

    5. Swiss Servator, Switzier!   10 years ago

      3

    6. Derpetologist   10 years ago

      4 is the Not.

      1. Tonio   10 years ago

        4 is Eddie.

  41. The Late P Brooks   10 years ago

    FDA Likely To Deny 'Female Viagra' Approval Yet Again

    [insert "iron copulating machine" joke]

  42. tarran   10 years ago

    Stormy Dragon mendaciously makes up shit about a politician who offends her sensibilities.

    Rand Paul takes credit for winning ACLU case he had nothing to do with

    1. Winston   10 years ago

      Who is worse, Stormy or Bo?

      1. This Machine   10 years ago

        Who is worse, Stormy or Bo?

        Yes.

      2. Atanarjuat   10 years ago

        Stormy doesn't do vitriolic personal attacks, corpsefuck dead threads, or hijack a thread for 50 posts of goalpost shifting and smug misrepresentation of the opponents' position. Also is not an outright racist who calls blacks "Uncle Tom" and "boy". No contest.

        1. John   10 years ago

          What Atanarjuat said. And Stormy comments on things that are not partisan.

      3. iCarl   10 years ago

        Bo is much worse. You're in between the two, if only because you're more prolific.

        1. GILMORE   10 years ago

          +1 runner-up prize

  43. Grand Moff Serious Man   10 years ago

    Via the BBC's Twitter feed, exit polls from the UK:

    Conservatives: 316

    Labour: 239

    SNP: 58

    LibDems: 10

    Plaid: 4

    UKIP: 2

    Greens: 2

    Other: 19

    1. Winston   10 years ago

      Huh, disastrous for the Lib Dems. SNP performing as outrageous as many expected.

      Cons appear to perform a lot better than many expected. Not good for Labour.

    2. Jerry on the sea   10 years ago

      ConLib majority by 1.

      1. Winston   10 years ago

        What about the speaker and the Sinn Fein abstentionists?

    3. Pan Zagloba   10 years ago

      Oh damn, I hope Farage makes it as one of the two UKIP MPs. He will make Question Time worth seeing!

      1. Pan Zagloba   10 years ago

        Oh wait, that's pre-postal vote. Expect a bit of shift to Labour and 'Others' and away from Cons.

    4. Winston   10 years ago

      Who are the others. 18 Northern Ireland MPs and who else? The Speaker? George Galloway?

    5. Pan Zagloba   10 years ago

      YouGov did a poll of their own, and it's more in line with expectations

      YouGov:

      Conservative: 284
      Labour: 263
      SNP: 48
      Lib Dems: 31
      Ukip: 2
      PC: 3
      Green: 1

      (yes, I'm UK politics coinosewer and have been looking forward to this election for a while)

  44. sloopyinTEXAS   10 years ago

    Talk about living in denial.

    This guy's picture is next to the word in the dictionary.

  45. GILMORE   10 years ago

    Everything Tom Friedman Says About Germany's Energy Market Is Wrong

    "On the first point, what the Germans have done in converting almost 30 percent of their electric grid to solar and wind energy from near zero in about 15 years has been a great contribution to the stability of our planet and its climate."

    The actual total share of "Clean" energy in Germany today is almost exactly the same as in 2000, when they began their phase-out of nuclear power. All the new "renewable" energy is simply catching up with the shutdown of 'clean' nuclear. Simultaneously, however, their conventional electricity production got *much dirtier* and more expensive.

    They have actually failed to reduce their net carbon output at all despite nearly half a trillion Euros thrown down the toilet, and the highest energy prices in Europe. In fact, the process has vastly increased imported electricity to offset the variability of "green" output, resulting in increased demand for coal and nuclear power from abroad.

    Basically, Tom Friedman has declared the Iraq War a glowing success and a model for future military engagements.

    1. John   10 years ago

      But CO2 produced in another country is that country's sin. So importing all of that electricity doesn't mean the German's haven't saved their souls.

      1. Scruffy Nerfherder   10 years ago

        Hence why we need a UN enforced CO2 management bureaucracy. We need more rulers.

    2. Pro Libertate   10 years ago

      The sheer and utter waste of government is profound. We could have converted the solar system to a Dyson sphere with the collective waste of the state.

      1. sloopyinTEXAS   10 years ago

        Wait, would that include Pluto? What about Halley's comet at the extent of its orbit?

        1. Pro Libertate   10 years ago

          Pretty much all of the nonliving mass in the solar system. It's a big project.

          1. sloopyinTEXAS   10 years ago

            all of the nonliving mass in the solar system

            So Detroit is in then?

            1. Pro Libertate   10 years ago

              Sure. It'll be on the outside, however.

          2. Agammamon   10 years ago

            Psh - halfway measures.

            *all* the mass.

            The 'living' part can be run in sim.

            1. Pro Libertate   10 years ago

              As a living organism, I must lodge a formal protest.

              1. Agammamon   10 years ago

                Formal protests are to be submitted in person at Alpha Centauri.

                In the cellar

                At the door of the disused lavatory marked "Beware of the Leopard."

                1. Tonio   10 years ago

                  +42 something

      2. GILMORE   10 years ago

        I actually thought of this story in the other thread when you pointed out that Progs increasinly have to misrepresent reality to such an extreme that they seem to be constantly in the process of updating and repairing their lies.

        But this shit is a fucking doozy. I mean, I want to go all Millenial and go, "JUST GOOGLE IT!!" because there are 100 articles titled "Germany's Green Energy Disaster" for every one about its 'successes' - and even the latter admit, "it costs way too fucking much"

        1. Pro Libertate   10 years ago

          I guess it must be a form of utopianism. The Khmer Rouge and others who had extreme utopian visions seemed to suffer a similar unwillingness to deal with the real world. Which is a disturbing parallel.

          1. tarran   10 years ago

            The Khmer Rouge were eliminationist - literally "To keep you is of no benefit; to destroy you is no loss"

            They thought that if they eliminated enemies of society, what remained would be almost a perfect utopia (the nearsighted people bumping into things being the shortcoming).

            Progs don't want to eliminate people so much as shut them up, and close their businesses, and be smug at them. Fortunately, most of them would quail at the thought of pulling triggers on their enemies.

            1. tarran   10 years ago

              Crap, hit submit too quickly!

              I left out the bit where I labeled the progs as non-eliminationist utopians.

              1. Pro Libertate   10 years ago

                I'm not accusing them of the kind of murderous impulses the Khmer Rouge had; I'm just saying the delusional utopianism is similar. And, of course, that's more than a little distressing, even if it turns out our utopians don't want to kill so many people.

            2. R C Dean   10 years ago

              To keep you is of no benefit; to destroy you is no loss

              Well, I think my legal department has a new motto. Thanks, tarran.

              1. Pro Libertate   10 years ago

                This reminds me of a parody called "The One Bullet Manager: Management Secrets of the Khmer Rouge" in The Book of Sequels.

    3. Swiss Servator, Switzier!   10 years ago

      Everything Tom Friedman Says About Germany's Energy Market Is Wrong

      1. Tonio   10 years ago

        Thank you, Switzy, for saying what needed to be said.

  46. sloopyinTEXAS   10 years ago

    Man beats woman half senseless and is rewarded with short work weeks for the next few months.

    How does "violating the departmental policy on use of force" not immediately trigger criminal assault and battery charges with a firearm enhancer automatically?

  47. GILMORE   10 years ago

    New Era of Government Openness:
    White House to Add a Double-Layer of Steel Spikes to Barrier Fence

  48. sloopyinTEXAS   10 years ago

    Fucking California...that bastion of transparency and equality under the law.

    I'm absolutely sure if Joe Prole was looking at his ipad while driving and mowed down a bike cop that he'd not face any criminal charges.

    Fuck. I miss dunphy twisting in the wind on shitty stories of the two-tiered justice system like this one. He was so much better of a punching bag than our current resident turds. Just kidding.

    1. GILMORE   10 years ago

      Do you get a newsfeed of "Cop fucks up, given free vacation time" stories? Is this all secondhand Balko links?

      1. sloopyinTEXAS   10 years ago

        I've got my sources. ANd I haven't been to Balko's site in quite some time.

    2. Andrew S.   10 years ago

      "Unspecified discipline" means what, exactly? He had to buy the round of beers for everyone at the "investigation"?

      1. tarran   10 years ago

        He was told, very firmly, not to do it again.

        Very... Firmly!

      2. Slumbrew   10 years ago

        'yellow discipline', I'm guessing.

    3. Free Society   10 years ago

      A particularly loathsome statement from the article

      "I can't speculate on what he should get ? it's just very unfortunate," Jakl said of Wood. "He will always have that in his mind that he caused the death of someone who was just riding their bike. I think that's bad enough, and he has to live with that burden."

      Some species of sociopathy is probably what brought that guy into police work to begin with. I suspect that he's more embarrassed than guilty.

  49. sloopyinTEXAS   10 years ago

    Cops help a brother beat a man until he has a broken orbital and receive vacations. Only the initiator of the violence was charged criminally.

    The chief quit after she refused to even discipline the brave officers. Then the video was leaked to the public and the cover-up exposed. I'm sure none of the people conspiring to obstruct justice by withholding the video will face charges either though. They might get a vaation out of it though. That seems to be the status quo.

    1. Free Society   10 years ago

      Best god damned country in the world.

      1. Rhywun   10 years ago

        Makes you wonder what kind of horrors the brave heroes are perpetrating in, well, most of the rest of the world.

  50. The Late P Brooks   10 years ago

    How does "violating the departmental policy on use of force" not immediately trigger criminal assault and battery charges with a firearm enhancer automatically?

    How does violating policy breaking the fucking law not immediately strip them of immunity?

    1. Pro Libertate   10 years ago

      Indeed. As I learned about this in law school, albeit in somewhat freer times, acting outside the scope of your legal authority totally ended the question of immunity.

  51. Derpetologist   10 years ago

    Spot the Not: political children's books

    1. Why Mommy is a Democrat

    2. Mama Voted for Obama

    3. Teach a Donkey to Fish

    4. Little Bastiat and the Broken Window

    5. God Made Mom and Dad

    6. Help! Mom! There are liberals under my bed!

    1. tarran   10 years ago

      Little Bastiat and the Broken Window

      1. Pan Zagloba   10 years ago

        I agree - there is no way such a book exists....yet.

    2. Banjos   10 years ago

      4

    3. Andrew S.   10 years ago

      IV. Though I would totally read it if it existed.

    4. Derpetologist   10 years ago

      4 is the Not. Prizes for everyone!

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pajama_Boy

      Writer Jay Michaelson, in The Jewish Daily Forward, wrote that criticism of "Pajama Boy" was anti-semitic, noting that Krupp is Jewish and that "Jewish men have been accused of being unmanly for hundreds of years".

      1. Agammamon   10 years ago

        Huh. Someone should tell Michaelson that if Jewish men are accused of being unmanly, its because they're unmanly, not because their Jewish.

        FFS, *Lena Dunham* made fun of her jewish boyfriend for being a nebbish - in a national magazine -and he's *still with her*.

        If that isn't unmanly, I don't know what is.

        1. Agammamon   10 years ago

          Also, I don't think Jewish men have been accused of unmanlyness for hundreds of years.

          Tons of other horrible stuff, but the unmanliness is, I think, a mid-20th century thing.

          1. Slumbrew   10 years ago

            Yeah, "unmanly" may be an American Jewish thing, and only a subset thereof. Israeli Jews are often "manly" to a fault - i.e., abrasive douches.

  52. Enough About Palin   10 years ago

    So i just got back from Whole foods where I purchased four cans of pumpkin with my debit card. I an m dressed in formal business attire. Cashier looked like some communist wannabe dude. The other reason I went to Whole Foods was because they let you withdra $100.00 during your transaction and I was looking to get a C-note for a birthday card. I mentioned that to this guy and he said he didn't have any. I said that's okay. But here's the thing, he gave me $100 back in tens and fives when it was clearly obvious that there were twenties in the drawer. What a little prick.

    1. Pro Libertate   10 years ago

      The workers of the world are uniting against you and your bourgeois friends, see.

      1. Enough About Palin   10 years ago

        That was my thinking.

        1. Pro Libertate   10 years ago

          Of course, communists in the U.S. are more likely to limit their violence to serving you decaf instead of the caffeinated drink you ordered--that will show you, capitalist pig-dog!

    2. sloopyinTEXAS   10 years ago

      Why didn't you ask him to give you a Hundy? Or request the twenties? The boss there would look at him like he was full of shit if he tried to say they needed twenties for change more than they needed tens an fives.

      You should go back and order just a glass of water and berate him mercilessly. Then post it online.

      1. HeteroPatriarch   10 years ago

        I read this as "handy," and I was confused...

    3. tarran   10 years ago

      I really don't like shopping in Whole Foods. The prices piss me off. The smug of the shoppers as they pick up a fucking cereal that IS FUCKING SHREDDED WHEAT WITH ANTI-GMO BRANDING AND TWICE TEH FUCKING PRICE pisses me off. The pictures of that quack Mehmet Oz peddling the latest quack cure (in this issue of Nature's Health, copper enemas to cure balding!) are fucking apalling. The smug slogans ("grow up strong and harmless") irritate the hell out of me. The overpriced fruit locally organically grown cause my Scottish ancestors to scream in fury and my hand to twitch for a claymore sword with which to slaughter the problem out of existence.

      It's like an expensive shrine to people who never matured past age 6. Except for my fiancee of course. She's cool. Also, it's pretty much the only market super or otherwise near my house that reliably carries Grape Nut Flakes - which, when mixed with plain whole milk yogurt, is the fucking ambrosia of the gods.

      1. GILMORE   10 years ago

        "Grape Nut Flakes"

        I concur.

      2. Pro Libertate   10 years ago

        That's why God gave us Trader Joe's.

      3. BigT   10 years ago

        Whole Foods - where a libertarian owner milks hipster douchebags. Just like Apple.

      4. jesse.in.mb   10 years ago

        WF brand tonic water is really good. It's about the only reason I go to WF. Because it's WF branded it's also competitively priced.

    4. GILMORE   10 years ago

      I'm still wondering what the fuck anyone needs 4 *cans* of Pumpkin for. Pie? yick. I never could eat that stuff. I prefer to think its part of some weird sexual kink you have.

      1. trshmnster the terrible   10 years ago

        And to think that I liked and respected you GILMORE. Anti-pumpkin pie? There's no way you're human and don't like pumpkin pie!

  53. Cytotoxic   10 years ago

    Yesterday, HM seriously stated that Pamela Geller is an Objectivist. This is offensively wrong, and I am offended by it. Geller hates property rights (see 'Park51') and is against legalizing drug use. I assume she is against mass immigration from the 'wrong places'. She is not an Objectivist no matter how much Atlas Shrugged imagery see festoons her blog with.

    1. PH2050   10 years ago

      I see the problem. You've inadvertently posted this at reason.com, not wegiveafuck.com.

      Babies like you make this the chat room Postrel talked about.

      1. Tonio   10 years ago

        Dayum. But never forget that Postrel bit the hand that fed and nurtured her. Never.

      2. Cytotoxic   10 years ago

        Pointing out that someone is wrong =/= being a baby.

        Whining about someone pointing out that someone is wrong = kind of being a baby. I guess awareness isn't your strong suit.

        Babies like you make this the chat room Postrel talked about.

        No asshole that's the people with the low-brow raunchy humor and excessive talk of the attractiveness of certain women, here.

        1. PH2050   10 years ago

          "...and I am offended by it."

          Boo fucking hoo, baby.

          1. Cytotoxic   10 years ago

            I was being somewhat tongue in cheek but it's ironic that you're getting all butthurt over that.

    2. Heroic Mulatto   10 years ago

      Well, I'm sure if you wrote Leonard Peikoff a nice letter, he might consider excommunicating Geller from the movement, like Branden was. However, I would recommend that you back up your claims about Geller with citations and facts. I mean, Geller never said the owners of the Park51 site should be prohibited by law from building whatever they wanted, but that what they were planning to build was offensive. Do you have evidence that she supports the use of force to prevent Sharif El-Gamal from building a mosque on his property? Furthermore, I suspect your "assumptions" about her views on immigration wouldn't fly with Peikoff. After all, as a man of reason, he would have expected you to check your premises. A=A, you know. Logic dictates that you should actually find evidence from which her views on immigration could be deduced before speaking on the subject. Nevertheless, you are correct that her stance on drug legalization is counter to that of Rand's, as is her continued religious belief in Judaism. Those would be what I would point to in the letter. However, if she's associated with Kelley's Atlas Society and not the ARI, you're shit out of luck anyway.

      1. Cytotoxic   10 years ago

        Your points are all good, but I am not writing Pope Peikoff a nice anything. Peikoff can pike-off. He is not a man of reason. He gets off on his own perceived power over Objectivism.

        Re Park51: Ms. Geller claims (at about the 1:50 point) that the building that some Muslims want to tear down to build a mosque "should be given landmark status." In other words, the owners, according to her, should not have their property rights recognized.

        http://econlog.econlib.org/arc.....t_att.html

        Unfortunately the link does not quite go where it needs to.

        Actual title of Geller article: Muslim Immigration Poses Serious National Security Threat

        http://pamelageller.com/2015/0.....reat.html/

        She actually believes we are going to become Eurabia. She's nuts. She does not outright come out against mass immigration in the above but it's clear where she is going.

  54. RightofCenter   10 years ago

    Any recommendations for a good VPN that works well in China? I'm on a 3-day layover in Shanghai. I signed up for VyprVPN's 3-day trial, and it was hit or miss for me. Towards the end it started trying to install new certificates (in addition to the ones already installed) that weren't signed and also still didn't allow me to access the Internet.

    I'm heading to Sydney tomorrow, where the hotel net is slower but much less restricted. I'd like to sign up with a new provider before heading back to China. I know it's a constant cat and mouse game here, but I hope there's a VPN with a good track record.

    Also, reading this site on an iPad is a chore. About every fourth swipe, the device detects a slight right or left vector and sends me to the next article. It took 20 minutes to make it to the bottom of the comments without changing articles.

    1. Cytotoxic   10 years ago

      Reading ANYTHING on an iPad is a chore. That's what you get for using crAppleware.

    2. iCarl   10 years ago

      It's probably too late, but Tyler Cohen recently asked his readers that question; you might want to check there. A lot mentioned Astrill.

      1. RightofCenter   10 years ago

        Thanks, I'll take a look tomorrow when I get to SYD.

  55. Kaptious Kristen   10 years ago

    Every time I see this commercial, it bugs me that if the genders were reversed in the last scene, the SJWs would be screaming about rape culture and patriarchy.

    Mindy Kaling is a rapist!

    1. Derpetologist   10 years ago

      When women are treated differently than men and they like it, it is called progressive.
      When women are treated differently than men and they dislike it, it is called sexist.

      In completely unrelated news, 5 out of 26 female soldiers passed the Army Ranger Prep course, which clearly shows this will not be a waste of anyone's time.

      http://www.washingtontimes.com.....-26-women/

      1. Agammamon   10 years ago

        It won't be a waste of time, even if all pass, if the Army will stick to its guns and keep the same standards for men and women.

        But . . .

        The problem is that a Ranger tab is basically required for (male) officer's who want a career. So once this opens up to women you'll see pressure on them to get the qual also.

        But . . .

        Your average female officer, though she's physically able to work in her specialty, even in the infantry, is going to have a tough time meeting the peak demands of the Ranger course.

        So there'll be pressure to lower the standards to accommodate long before pressure to remove the Ranger tab off the list of boxes to check off during your career.

        1. Agammamon   10 years ago

          Uh, even if all *fail*, not pass.

      2. PH2050   10 years ago

        +5 G.I. Janes

        (I cry inside for the Starship Trooper showers that will never occur)

        1. sloopyinTEXAS   10 years ago

          +1 glimpse of Dina Meyer's pancake titties.

    2. Libertarian   10 years ago

      Men are always the butt of the joke in commercials. And whites, too. However, I was surprised the other day when it was a black guy who was being made fun of. Don't have a TV, so I'm 99% sure it was on Hulu. Anyone seen it? (I seem to remember that is was a small backyard grill party -- the black guy was acting prissy and I think had a sweater tied around his shoulders).

      1. Agammamon   10 years ago

        Actually, sounds like a backdoor jab at white people - 'ridiculous' preppy made to look even more ridiculous when contrasted with another ethnicity.

        1. Libertarian   10 years ago

          Only saw it once, so it could be. Wish I could find it again.

    3. Agammamon   10 years ago

      Mindy Kaling is a rapist!

      But is it rape if you would have said yes anyway?

      1. PH2050   10 years ago

        What if I've had a drink? Can I consent to enjoying Kaling's deliciousness?

        1. Agammamon   10 years ago

          Are you a man? Then you can consent after a drink. A man can consent after passing out unconscious from blood loss due to a missing limb.

          Are you a woman? No. As one of the precious flowers you're too delicate to consent unless you're stone-cold sober and can pass a blood draw and urine drug test.

    4. Redmanfms   10 years ago

      It bugs me that she describes herself as attractive.

      Um, no.

      Even grading on an Indian curve (yeah, yeah, Aishwarya Rai), Mindy Kaling isn't good looking.

  56. trshmnster the terrible   10 years ago

    I just read the Bo-splosion that was the "rape ..... in ..... spaaaaaaaace" article.

    Holy fuck, I haven't seen such wanton idiocy in a while. "waaaaahhh, waaaahh, the planets are too euro-centric for me, you patriarchal cis-shitlord"

    I had to shut my browser and stop the hemorrhaging after that.

    1. Tonio   10 years ago

      Seek medical help now, Trashy, before you go unconscious from shock.

    2. Slammer   10 years ago

      Fucking Bo Quixote and his windmills.

      1. Agammamon   10 years ago

        The hilarious part, for me, was going over to Wikipedia and finding that his base assertion was incorrect.

        Shit is named by whoever gets to the IAAA first, regardless of ethnicity.
        IAAA will use any name the discoverer wants - as long as its not patently offensive
        There's no pressure for people to use the 'eurocentric' names - they tend to use the local ones (when they have one) among themselves and only stick to the IAAA registered names when talking internationally to avoid confusion.
        There are already a ton of astronomical objects named for things/people/whatever not of the european tradition - Sedna, Haumea, Makemake, Hi'aka for example.

        The whole argument would never have happened if he had simply googled 'astronomical objects not named after greeks or romans' first before making his assertion.

        1. GILMORE   10 years ago

          I have pointed out in the past that Bo is the quintessential "Pretentious Illiterate" who routinely claims authority on topics he has a barely-superficial understanding of.

          its his hallmark. if he 'researched before chiming in', he wouldn't be Bo

          1. trshmnster the terrible   10 years ago

            Jupiter is going to be to Bo what 8% is to Assplug

            1. Cytotoxic   10 years ago

              Jupiter Ass-ending?

              1. Slammer   10 years ago

                Viewed with a Booooosh-nell telescope?

                1. GILMORE   10 years ago

                  Bo routines observes Redshift on this list

                  1. GILMORE   10 years ago

                    garblederp "routinely".

  57. adolphowisner   10 years ago

    My Aunty Kayla recently got a stunning green Dodge Caliber Wagon just by working online with a pc.
    look at this site ????????????? http://www.jobsfish.com

  58. Agammamon   10 years ago

    Got trumped by Third fucking Party Doctrine.

  59. Scruffy Nerfherder   10 years ago

    Wait, what is that sound I hear? Could it be Graham, Rubio, and King riding to rescue the NSA?

  60. Atanarjuat   10 years ago

    Location update: my bunk.

  61. Slumbrew   10 years ago

    Goddamn.

  62. Enough About Palin   10 years ago

    Trigger Warning: Daily Caller would have been nice; that site is a shit-hole.

  63. Paul.   10 years ago

    For the second time!

  64. Injun, as in from India   10 years ago

    Got trumped by Third fucking Party Doctrine.

    An unholy menage-a-trois of message sender, message recipient, and third party results in everyone getting f***ed thanks to the courts.

  65. Tonio   10 years ago

    Prediction: Hipsters will get all up in arms about this, demand exemption to law, engage in exactly zero reflection upon the underlying principles.

  66. John   10 years ago

    Could any bill sponsored by Feinstien and Collins be anything but horrible. Is there some kind of epidemic of people dying for home made soup mixes? These people are fucking insane. Why would any rational person want to regulate that? They wouldn't. Only someone who is irrational, and frankly insane in their obsession with control would want to do something like that.

  67. Paul.   10 years ago

    Dianne Feinstein is behind this. And another politician from Maine I believe. Been discussed. Wondering if "Tom's of Maine" is trying to protect its market share.

  68. Swiss Servator, Switzier!   10 years ago

    I'd say that is about 99.9973% spot on.

  69. Marshall Gill   10 years ago

    Hipsters up in arms about a loss of soap? I doubt it.

  70. Pan Zagloba   10 years ago

    people dying for home made soup mixes

    Well people like you, clearly! It's homemade soap, if you use it as a soup mix, you may well die.
    This is why we have big government. Typos.

  71. Suthenboy   10 years ago

    "Why would any rational person want to regulate that? "

    Proctor and Gamble want to squash the homemade soap industry. It cuts into their sales, even if only a little bit. They (or someone just like them) wrote the bill and told her to put her name on it and put it to a vote.

    Regulatory capture.

  72. Dances-with-Trolls   10 years ago

    If they protest with zest, I mean really dial in, they could probably coast to victory on the issue and maybe lever that momentum into other successes.

  73. Slumbrew   10 years ago

    What you did there...

    Though I'm disappointed by the total lack of Fight Club references.

  74. Dances-with-Trolls   10 years ago

    It's just John being John, Zag. Typos are his signature move.

  75. Pro Libertate   10 years ago

    Huh. The Spanish word for soup is sopa. Is John secretly Juan Valdez, illegal Colombian immigrant?

  76. John   10 years ago

    Everyone needs a move and that is mine.

  77. Ted S.   10 years ago

    What happens when you hover over the link?

  78. GILMORE   10 years ago

    lol

    I went to a super-liberal (I wont say "progressive" - these were old school 60s hippies) high school program where we read Chomsky alongside Richard Hofstadter, and compared various historical propaganda documents to see how portrayal of events changed over time due to blatant contemporary political bias.

    Now, pointing that out is a crime.

  79. Pan Zagloba   10 years ago

    He's a man who coined what should be Reason's official motto in a toss-away comment. There are multitudes buried inside him that we can only dream of.

    Only Agile Cyborg sometimes gets a glimpse of them...

  80. Pro Libertate   10 years ago

    Clearly a collective effort of some radical Colombian group, codenamed Savarin Coffee.

  81. Swiss Servator, Switzier!   10 years ago

    It looks like someone forgot Rule #1...

  82. Enough About Palin   10 years ago

    Depends.

  83. Libertarian   10 years ago

    George Burns, Milton Berle, Fidel Castro. I think cigars make you live longer.

  84. GILMORE   10 years ago

    my hero

  85. Slammer   10 years ago

    Mark Twain

    Estimates of 22 to FORTY a day.

  86. Agammamon   10 years ago

    The only way this could have been better is if Irish sprung it on us.

  87. Notorious G.K.C.   10 years ago

    Hemingway?

  88. Pan Zagloba   10 years ago

    Add Winston Churchill and Groucho Marx. I think you may have something there!

  89. R C Dean   10 years ago

    Cigars both completely eliminate any possible viruses or germs from your oral and nasal passages, and toughen up your system generally.

    Science!

  90. R C Dean   10 years ago

    Actually, you've gotten a lot better.

  91. Libertarian   10 years ago

    He didn't smoke cigars.

  92. Libertarian   10 years ago

    I will allow you John Kennedy, though.

  93. Libertarian   10 years ago

    you've blinded me........

  94. Marshall Gill   10 years ago

    Savarin Coffee

    Sigh. I miss Herc.

  95. Pro Libertate   10 years ago

    The greatest of human and near-human trolls.

  96. sloopyinTEXAS   10 years ago

    JFK smoked a mind-blowing amount of cigars.

  97. Libertarian   10 years ago

    I wonder if any of those cigars that he had Salinger get him prior to the Cuban embargo survived? They'd be worth a FORTUNE today.

  98. GILMORE   10 years ago

    ouch

  99. trshmnster the terrible   10 years ago

    Yep, and if rumors are correct, he got his cigar smoked a mind-blowing amount of times.

  100. sloopyinTEXAS   10 years ago

    Gilmore got it.

  101. GILMORE   10 years ago

    You "dumb humor" on exactly my level, baby

  102. Jimbo   10 years ago

    He's much too Dovish for that.

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