Of Course Democrats Deserve the Blame for What's Happening in Baltimore
It's been a one-party city for at least half a century but Obama still managed to blame Republicans

If a person happens to point out that Baltimore's criminally inept government has been run exclusively by Democrats since 1967 (with one Republican mayor since 1947) and features not a single city councilor who isn't a liberal, he may be called a lazy apparatchik. Because not everything, you see, is reducible to mere party politics.
Now, if an economic renaissance sparked by the progressive policies of Stephanie Rawlings-Blake had lifted Baltimore from poverty, I imagine Democrats would be eager to claim credit for the accomplishment. Entire political debates are predicated on the effectiveness of partisan ideas. We blame presidents for recessions they probably have little to do with, yet according to liberal pundits, the party overseeing a city riddled with poverty, failing schools, high crime rates and racial tension bears no responsibility for what's happening.
The president disagrees. Sort of. After a night of violence and looting in Baltimore, Barack Obama spoke to the press and said that "we, as a country, have to do some soul-searching" -- by which he meant "they," as in conservatives, need to get on board.
Obama said that solutions to mend Baltimore's suffering are sitting right there in Washington -- unpassed because of ideologically inflexible Republicans. "And there's a bunch of my agenda that would make a difference right now," Obama claimed before going on: "Now, I'm under no illusion that out of this Congress we're going to get massive investments in urban communities, and so we'll try to find areas where we can make a difference, around school reform and around job training and around some investments in infrastructure in these communities and trying to attract new businesses in."
What piece of legislation have Republicans obstructed that would have helped keep families together in Baltimore -- right now? Which proposal would have created jobs to turn the city around? What law has Obama lobbied for that would have made Baltimore's police department -- which has been answering to one party for decades -- more compassionate or effective? Is there a criminal-justice reform effort that Obama's been spearheading all these years that we've all forgotten about?
Yes, the war on drugs is a disaster. But Democrats are complicit in that war, too. And Democrats are also in charge of a city school system that has huge failure rates, despite the fact that Baltimore's school district also has consistently ranked in the top five among the nation's 100 largest school districts in spending per pupil. Like most big city districts, there is no accountability. It's Democrats who consistently sink conservative education reform ideas (ones that in many cities are popular among African-American parents) for their union patrons.
For that matter, when did the president ever offer comprehensive legislation that would have brought "massive investments" to inner cities or reformed how government functions in urban communities? Was it when Democrats controlled both houses of Congress and the White House? Or was it after?
As Obama noted, the citizens of Baltimore (and all of us) have an alternative. They can care more, just as he does. "But that kind of political mobilization, I think, we haven't seen in quite some time," he explained. Rather than resort to counterproductive violence -- the kind of violence numerous leftist pundits were justifying -- Baltimore can vote for candidates who reflect and act on their concerns, candidates who will demand the police be accountable to civilian oversight. There are African-Americans in elected office and power positions throughout the city, so surely, there is no active racist faction undermining the ability of blacks to participate in democracy. Right now, they need better Democrats in Baltimore.
Where does the blame for the civil unrest lie? In plenty of places. Some of those places have absolutely nothing to do with politics and can't be fixed by any Washington agenda -- imagined or otherwise. The tribulations plaguing cities such as Baltimore are complex, having festered for years. But does that excuse the bungling of Democratic Party governance? Does it change the fact that massive amounts of spending have done little in the war on poverty?
And if Democrats claim that they are uniquely sympathetic toward the poor and weak, that welfare programs can never be reformed, only expanded, and that perpetually pumping "investments" into cities is the only way to alleviate the hardship faced by citizens, it's more than fair to gauge the effectiveness -- not to mention the competence -- of those allocating and overseeing those policies. Because Republicans may be horrible, but they aren't running Baltimore.
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looks like David likes this article so much, he wrote it twice
Why does the article repeat itself?
Looks like squirrels are running the article posting system too.
Hey!
And yer mother is a hamster!
+1 elderberry
Because if it didn't, there would be no articles from libertarians?
Or Detroit. Or Ferguson. Or Chicago. Or LA. Or Oakland.
They actually were running Ferguson IIRC.
Ferguson has non-partisan elections, whatever that is supposed to mean.
Most places it means party names aren't printed on the ballot, & all candidates get on the ballot the same way, regardless of party affiliation.
That won't absolve them from blame by the Democrats. Because the 1%.
Or Seattle or Houston or Minneapolis or New York or Austin or San Francisco or....
Democrats tend to run major cities. You're doing some pretty racist cherry picking there.
Ummm, Tony? NYC had a Republican mayor for 12 years (Rudy and Bloomberg's first term). Just FYI
Yeah and 48 Democrats to 3 Republicans on the city council.
Do you live in NYC, Tony?
Do you have the slightest idea of how power works there?
No. You don't.
But, BLUE TEAM!!!!!!!11111!!!!! YEAH!!!1111
Sorry if I wasn't being clear; I think this entire exercise is making us all dumber by proximity. This piece doesn't say specifically why Democrats are to blame, just that they are in charge of the city in question (as they are in charge of most other major cities), and hence apparently it's a worthy use of the Internet to poke Democrats with sticks while having no ideas.
Besides it not as if Giuliani's tenure was uncontroversial.
Tony: "they're not to blame; they're just the ones in charge."
He's responding to your moron god-king's assertion that it's republican's fault. I know your IQ is low Tony but try and keep up.
Tony, without question I disagree with your post. You think this entire exercise is making us all dumber by proximity.
We don't believe that is possible in your case. We think if you got any dumber your body would forget to breathe and you would die. So this 'entire exercise' can't possibly be making you dumber.
also....Racist cherry picking? Racist?
No idea where 'racist' came from. I think it's just a leftist tick. Maybe cherry picking is inherently racist, because Mexicans, or whatever.
When a government is run badly and their officials are abusive it is the fault of the party in power. Hence the problems in Baltimore and all of these other grossly mismanaged cities are democrat's fault. Still I would argue that there is no ways governments won't be run badly regardless of party because people attracted to political power are almost universally sociopaths whether or not you buy their BS that they care about you.
Still you are the one who wants to give those sociopaths ever more power so in a way Baltimore is really your fault.
Sorry if I wasn't being clear [...].
Hubris disguised as humility. Tony, you don't have a single humble bone in your body.
" This piece doesn't say specifically why Democrats are to blame, just that they are in charge of the city in question "
Well when a party is in exclusive charge of a city for decades, then what the Police do is probably their fault. So are the conditions that cause the population to riot.
" and hence apparently it's a worthy use of the Internet to poke Democrats with sticks while having no ideas."
When the democrats are claiming that their ideas are the solution it's important to point out that they have had the chance to solve the problems for decades.
There is Salt Lake City...
New York. Puerto Rico.
GREECE
I thought for sure he was going to call TEAM BLUE out for perpetuating slavery in the South and enacting Jim Crow laws - both of which pushed a lot of African Americans into a cycle of poverty and disenfranchisement.
Re: The Last American Hero,
In Baltimore?
Did Lee win Gettysburg in secret or something?
I don't follow your logic. How does the South losing the Civil War negate the fact that many Democrats supported slavery and Jim Crow, and that those things had bad effects? The former is referring to stuff that for the most part happened prior to the Civil War, and the latter is referring to stuff that happened in real life even with a Southern defeat.
Slavery was legal in Maryland, Baltimore was even a large slave port city.
It was legal in MD after the Civil War since the EP only applied to rebelling states. It got nixed later that year but it was legal there after it became illegal in say Georgia.
And there's a Robert E. Lee memorial park in Baltimore. I always bring that up when people tell me that Maryland is a Yankee state.
Maryland was actually pretty evenly divided, with lots of people holding Confederate loyalties. There were several Maryland regiments in the Confederate army.
I think talking about contemporary and recent Democratic rule of the city makes a lot more sense than referencing things from decades or centuries ago by people with little to no connection to the modern Democratic party. This is a much better article than it would have been had it focused on those things.
I didn't realize I needed Davis Harsanyi's permission to blame the Democrats for fucking up Baltimore. HEY DAVID, CAN I HAVE ANOTHER BEER, TOO? Yeah? Alright, another beer, David says so. THANKS, DAVID. I love David.
It was the collective (ugh - hate that word) "YOU", you ninny.
As in YOU GUYS. Not YOU specifically. You beer-drinking ninny.
(can I have one too?)
I'm drinking a rare vintage of homemade mead my buddy's doing. Rare because he found a bottle of it stashed in the back of his fridge, not because it's particularly sought after. But it's tasty and I would gladly pour you a glass.
I'm calling the FDA on you immediately. You're welcome.
That doesn't deter the little red Marxians from blaming Institutional Racism?? which begets Lack of Opportunity?.
Little red Mexicans? . . . .Oh, Marxians. MARXIANS.
I thought martians were green?. . . . Oh. MARXIANS.
Marxicans?
Money spent on what, exactly? That should be the big question.
As for the reasons why so many black Americans are stuck in poverty in those Marxian bastions?
a) The Welfare State
b) Anti-Capitalist mentalities
c) Licencing laws.
Money spent on public education. Baltimore was second highest spending per student i large school districts.
Speaking of clueless Marxians...
Salon's Joan Walsh goes full "Na-ah, y'did-int!" and criticizes whites for praising black mom who smacked silly her little thug of a son.
Does she mean people like... Joan Walsh?
You're well past your "Marxian" quota today. Learn more words.
Engelian?
Leninist?
Holodormpaist?
Ahem, Holodormrapist?
Hit a little too close to home?
... Hobbit
Would you prefer "thieves"?
... Hobbit
Tony?
Tin pot dictator?
Mass murderer?
Hobsbawmist?
Warrenista?
De Blasioian?
Krugmaniac?
^^ Winner. =)
Castroist? Castrati?
RobertReicher?
Angel of Deathers?
Traitorkind?
"White people" praised the mom.
Many "white people" are reflexive critics of corporal punishment.
Therefore, "white people" are hypocrites. Because they operate like the Borg.
Translation: "White people.....something.....something.......bad!"
Better to get slapped around and shoved by his mom than beaten with a night stick by the cops.
So, let's get this straight: white people are wrong for criticizing corporal punishment when black people do it, and we're also wrong for praising them when they do it? So, no matter what, white people are just wrong? We should basically just go drown ourselves and make the world a better place? Or do we just have to grovel enough for things we individually never did in order to not be innately wrong?
Oh, and can Tony or some other habitual retard explain to me again why Joan Walsh isn't widely shunned as a racist bigot for what she just wrote about "white people"?
The best (or worst) defense of Democrats; why don't other firmly democratic strongholds like Seattle or Portland plunge into such rioting?
What kind of underclass do these cities have - either black or white?
Keep in mind, in Britain, the drug dealing criminal element is usually white.
My guess is that historically they didn't have a significant underclass.
Didn't Seattle riot over the WTO about 15 years ago?
Yeah kinda, I've heard it referred to as "The Battle" here. As far as riots go though, it was extremely tame.
You misspelled 'lame'.
The hippie anarchists there are always busting in storefronts over something.
In order to have a race riot in either of those cities, all 15 black guys would have to take to the streets at the same time. Since 3 of those guys are cops and 2 are elderly, 10 guys just can't make a riot no matter how angry they are.
Portland is a city full of fixies being ridden by people wearing vans and skinny jeans.
Right on cue: "Seattle May Day Protest Turns Violent: 17 arrested"
That link going to a poltically incorrect site about blaming might fuel lots of fury to the debate and if it was not enough...
See, David, we hashed this out earlier today in another thread. It's not actually about race or party politics; it's about class. Everyone hates poor people - white or black poor people, so we can justify the awful consequences of the WOD because drugs are bad. Middle class and affluent people don't like drugs around their precious children (what kind of message would that send?) even though they'll occasionally indulge in a bit of weed or coke themselves (it's just recreational!!).
So, as long as the only people jailed in the WOD are inner city darkies and meth dealing tailer trash, who really cares?
The core problems are a loss of jobs, particularly in manufacturing and construction, discriminatory housing policies from decades ago whose effects persist, and of course over-incarceration of black people, all of which contributes to generational cycles of poverty. Privatizing schools won't solve any of that (it's an idea whose outcomes have been so riddled with corruption and waste that it's surprising anyone still advocates it, especially as a panacea). Neither will stroking your I-hate-Democrats hardon, which is apparently what counts as the major thesis of every political argument in these parts. Government policies are to blame, Democrats are to blame, and Republicans would be blameworthy if not for the affirmative action they get because everyone knows they aren't expected to have any real thoughts on anything. Sort of like this piece, which offers nothing. I thought libertarians liked simple solutions to complex problems. What could be simpler to solving poverty, by definition a lack of money, than money? Preferably in the form of good jobs. Or would these perpetually irresponsible, ahem, "Democrats" just squander a decent paycheck like they do their welfare money, so why bother?
That was quite a rant.
But, today, Obama said everything is cool. The economy is humming; the private sector added 800,000 jobs. How could the loss of jobs be responsible for poverty when Obama says it's not?
Also, Tony, you don't know what the word 'money' actually means. Just FYI.
Care to try again with an actual genuine thought?
I guess you don't read the news:
http://www.realclearpolitics.c....._fine.html
The private sector is doing fine relative to where it has been and could be given the great recession, and much of any drag on job creation is indeed cuts to government budgets. But it remains true that unemployment among blacks is twice that of whites, a point I don't think the president has left unaddressed.
Yada, yada, yada. It's not Obama's fault. BLUE TEAM!!!111!!!!
We have the lowest labor force participation rate since the 1970's and the median family income in a decade.
In economic terms, he's a utter failure and so is Team Blue, not necessarily that Team Red can do any better.
Jesus, just admit that Democrats are shit on economics already. You're delusional if you believe otherwise.
If Democrats get an opportunity to enact their stated economic policies, then they fail, I will admit as much. Sorry, but we're not exactly living under a massive Keynesian implementation.
So, Dems in Baltimore haven't had the opportunity to enact their stated economic policies? How about Detroit? How many Republicans are standing in their way?
Oh, I know, There's not enough tax revenue in those cities so federal dollars are needed, then nirvana will be created.
Your inability to accept responsibility for the complete failure of the policies you advocate is pathetic.
Your only answer is MOAR!1!!!!
They did. In Baltimore, and in many other places. You know, Detroit.
Everything we do fails, but that is only because we aren't doing enough of it. We must spend more!!
"Everything we do fails, but that is only because we aren't doing enough of it."
Nah, it's because there are always villains and brigands (read: Republicans) who stop it from being implemented properly.
Proof of this: the policies fail. The policies, by definition, can't fail, so if they do, it's because of malfeasance.
Right, Tony? That is, of course, what you've been arguing throughout.
"Sorry, but we're not exactly living under a massive Keynesian implementation."
Well, yeah, as Dems have never actually been Keynesian.
Oh, and actually, we are living under a massive Keynesian implementation is was $800 mil. in stimulus and Quantitative Easing. This grand experiment is largely responsible for the income inequality you economic illiterates are currently bitching about.
See, just like with "racist housing policies": Create a racist housing policy and implement it then bitch about racist housing policies.
Brilliant. Great for retaining power, awful for effective governance.
No it is not largely responsible, and it is inadequate as every Keynesian will say. Must be nice being a libertarian, where every action that falls short of achieving utopia is proof of its wrongness. Tax cuts sold as jobs programs and many other ways wealth has been transferred upward are the obvious causes, I don't care if Democrats participated; I'm more interested in policy than in absolving Republicans of all blame, which is apparently the preoccupation of the supposedly nonpartisan libertarians here. Times must be pretty good for you guys, at least, to have such idle time on your hands.
Um, Tony, When you force rates to zero, as QE did, you rob savers to pay debtors. When savers see their fixed income decrease how do you think they respond? They spend less. Not very stimulating is it? Investors were forced into stocks as an alternative to bonds, stocks have sky-rocketed. Who do you think owns the majority of those stocks?
QE is directly responsible for redistributing wealth upward - to the 1%. And Democrats are rationalizing this policy - hugely ironic.
The rest of your comment is gibberish. Work on that.
I always get a chuckle when TEAM BLUE goes to bat for the Fed. It's funny how the self-styled champions of the poor are such vociferous defenders of an institution who's stated purpose is to benefit the wealthy at the expense of everyone else (since that's what inflation does).
QE is no liberal's idea of a great stimulus program, it's just all that's left when you're not enabled to do real stimulus. See Piketty. Return on capital always outpaces economic growth, so capitalism, even when quite fettered, leads to upward distribution by simple math. The only thing that has ever caused widespread economic prosperity are directed downward transfer programs or other means of simply moving the wealth downward (big wars for example).
Here's the good news for you, Tony.
You have a living breathing case study to see if Piketty's right. There is a country that has engaged in a tremendous stimulus program as well as QE. In fact, they've engaged in 30 years of a government orgy of stimulus. Let's see how things work out for Japan, shall we?
Piketty is full of shit.
+ all the shoes!
In Keynesian Fantasy Land, $3.5 trillion+ in annual federal spending alone isn't stimulus; meanwhile, countries cutting their rate of growth in annual spending is austerity.
I feel like I'm taking crazy pills!
You left-wingers should just shut the fuck up about economics. It's pitiful.
More tax cuts would have made it much closer to proper Keynesianism.
Shorter Tony: "if it wasn't for the kulaks and wreckers things would be better!!!"
Pathetic, even for you.
I do look forward to the day when you're face down in a landfill somewhere. With the rest of your (progressive)kind.
Good point but that was $800 Billion, not million. Just wanted to point out that the leftist failure was 1000 times greater.
So go build a Death Star already!
You do realize liberals have completely misappropriated Keynes right? I doubt Keynes ( a brilliant mind) would agree with the way the modern left interpret his theories.
Those policies have been enacted in Venezuela. If you actually ever go there to witness their efficacy, you'll have to bring your own toilet paper.
And water .
Ho-lee shit, this has got to be one of the biggest lies I've read on here. You're fucking kidding me, right? Team Blue has had control of both the Senate and House - and the Presidency - rammed through that gem known as the ACA, but you're going to actually claim that they haven't had "an opportunity to enact their stated economic policies??"
Whatever hallucinogens you are currently ingesting, please share the chemical compound with the rest of the class.
That is a lie of epic proportions.
No. Just 90% massive.
Who are you trying to bullshit here, you ninny?
"If Democrats get an opportunity to enact their stated economic policies, then they fail, I will admit as much. Sorry, but we're not exactly living under a massive Keynesian implementation."
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Tony your such a kidder. =)
Maybe, if they just converted to Mormonism, their problems would be solved.
Just look at Utah, Tony.
Teh. Tony thinks anything contrary to what he wants to argue is not a "genuine thought."
Apparently what Tony thinks are the only legitimate lines of thought; everything else is neither "genuine" nor "real." Must be nice.
Then again, not; delusion typically isn't.
Have you heard those Baltimore folks speak? I needed a translator, it wasn't English.
No wonder they can't get jobs. No one else speaks ebonics or whatever bro' talk they use there.
I struggle to understand elderly people from Devon but I fail to see why that's a moral problem on their part.
Seriously, Tony? Would you hire an ebonics speaking uneducated thug to work in your business? Of course not. That is a big part of the unemployment picture.
You see how these things can perpetuate themselves?
The linguist in me isn't going to let you get away with the implicit claim that a particular dialect is inherently the product of less education, however.
Y'all ignert, moofas
Huh?
"Have you heard those Baltimore folks speak? "
Public school "english".
Gee, burning down a CVS store is absolutely going to be a job creator.
Nice job, Tony.
If we burn down more CVSs, we would be rich!
+1 Broken window fallacy for jobs creation.
They don't sell tobacco products anymore.
THEY MUST BE PUNISHED!!!
Oh, it was so touching . . .. your Ode to Government . . .I could hear the sad violin music . . .I need a hanky . . .
I need to go .. . .emotions. overload.
BOOO HOOO HOOO
Tony, I recently left Maryland for Virginia after living in the state since my birth (56 years ago). I lived most of that time just south of Baltimore, between it and DC. Did business there, went to sporting events there, visited museums, plays, the concert hall, meals and so on. I can say that your post is filled with ignorance. Every problem Baltimore faces is due to progressive Democrat policies.
The following is what I have put together from closely following Maryland and Baltimore politics for over three decades.
http://splicetoday.com/politic.....e-maryland
"Today, the Maryland of 2013 is arguably the most liberal and surely among the most reliably Democratic states in America, scaling the charts past Irish-pol-cum-academic Massachusetts and mellowed-out California. Democrats had controlled the State House for 36 consecutive years, and even in electing Republican Agnew in 1966 in a rare aberrational fluke helped by break-away Democrats, the remaining three statewide offices and the General Assembly remained steadfastly in Democratic control."
Since 1960 (half a century) Baltimore had had ten mayors. One was a republican. Since 1960 Maryland has had nine governors, two were republicans (the current is the third but has only served for three months). The last three governors served a total of 20 years, four of those were by one republican, the other sixteen years were by democrats who explicitly stated their progressive credentials and the last one is now running for president and promoting himself as second only to Elizabeth Warren in progressive credentials, this would be Martin O'Malley. During his eight years as governor he raised nearly forty taxes and the budget grew in the double digits even though he served primarily during the "great recession" which saw 45 states reduce their budgets, not grow them. Martin left the state with a structural deficit (hundreds of millions). Martin also served six years as Baltimore's mayor, before he was governor. Since he left the the mayor's office he has had two successors, both progressives. The first was removed from office due to corruption, the latest, well, we see where her leadership has led the city.
During Martin's time as Mayor he implemented much of the policing policy we see today. The first stages of this policy led to the unlawful arrest of tens of thousands and his administration was sued by the ACLU, NAACP and citizens wrongly arrested, Martin lost. His lost cost the city six million dollars it didn't have.
http://www.washingtonexaminer......icle/55990
Especially since the city's education budget was running a deficit in the tens of million. Ten years later and that deficit is now 60 million dollars (rumour persist that it could be more).
http://www.baltimoresun.com/ne.....tml#page=1
"Even before proposed state budget cuts, Baltimore City schools face a shortfall next year of more than $60 million ? and officials are considering layoffs as one option for resolving the problem."
A city whose education system is primarily funded by the taxpayers of the state (70%). A school system that spends $17,000 per student (not including infrastructure cost). A school system with a dismal graduation rate.
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics.....id=9083935
At 41%, Baltimore's high school graduation rate lands it on the list of Cities in Crisis compiled by America's Promise Alliance. According to the State of Maryland's recent annual report of Juvenile Services, African-American youth made up more than 43% of those placed in Juvenile Detention Facilities, 47% of Out-Of-Home Placements, and 80% of those placed in Shelter Care Programs, the highest of any other group. Among the Baltimore's recent data on Maternal and Infant Health, African-American infants had the highest mortality rate (15.5 per 1000 live births) of any group. Currently the city's unemployment rate stands at 7.6%. Recovery.gov shows that over $113,000,000 in funds have been dispersed for Baltimore's zip code of 21202; some 202 jobs have been created for this area.
All this occurred during progressive democrat rule.
As for state education.
http://mgaleg.maryland.gov/Pub.....diness.pdf
"In the short term, this will likely indicate that even more students are not ready for college; however, students will know this before they graduate from high school so that they can use their senior year to improve their college readiness. Students enrolling directly from high school make up 79.8% of students enrolled in remedial courses."
This condition exist after decades of progressive policies.
A significant percentage of Marylanders work for the federal government, the state government and Baltimore city government. This has been accelerated by progressive democrats who have lobbied heavily for federal bureaucracies to relocate in MD. Maryland has eleven military bases. Three of the most notable are Andrews Air Force base (houses Air Force One), Fort Meade (central intelligence) and Aberdeen Proving Grounds. These bring in sizable Federal funds, military contractors and military personal. The military industrial complex is alive and healthy in progressive democratic MD.
A list of federal agencies in MD
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L.....n_Maryland
Lots more federal money. But these apparently aren't enough. Maryland's progressive senator wants to hook another big federal fish:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/.....story.html
As for private sector growth in Maryland:
"The state of Maryland is almost out of Fortune 500 companies and dangerously near zero with only four left. The number is embarrassingly low and pathetic compared to main competing states like Massachusetts, Connecticut, Pennsylvania, New Jersey and Virginia. It makes a declining state like California look prosperous despite the mass exodus of companies from there. Truth be told, Maryland's economy has been on a continuous decline since the early 1980s."
The progressives running the state for decades have engineered a state economy around government funds at the expense of the private sector. The evidence is clear, none of this is by accident, it's by design.
The progressive democrats in charge of the state (for decades) has gerrymandered the state to maintain their monopoly stranglehold over state politics.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/.....districts/
4. Maryland and North Carolina are essentially tied for the honor of most-gerrymandered state.
"With average gerrymander scores of about 88 out of a possible 100, Maryland and North Carolina are home to some of the ugliest districts in the nation among states with at least three Congressional districts. In fact, North Carolina is home to three out of the top 10 most-gerrymandered districts in the country. Maryland is proof that gerrymandering isn't just a Republican pastime, as the state's Democrats redrew those boundaries in 2012. The standout in that state is the 3rd Congressional district, which is the nation's second-most gerrymandered and home to Democratic congressman John Sarbanes."
Now, taking all this in to account we can see why there has been no moderation or gradual implementation of progressive policies in MD over the past half century. The opposite is true as the ruling progressives in the ruling party have aggressively implemented their polices upon the state, especially in Baltimore. Maryland Democrats, by focusing in federal money Maryland politicians have immunized themselves from the gyrations in the national economy.
http://247wallst.com/special-r.....l-money/3/
3) Maryland
"Maryland had the fifth-highest federal spending per capita from the Defense Department ? the state has 11 military bases. In addition, the state received more spending per capita in nonmilitary programs than any other. The state's proximity to the capital is likely a major factor in this. The state received more than 5% of the total U.S. procurement expenditure, and ranked second in per capita procurement spending ? $4,593.79 ? nearly three times the national average. Of the 50 states, Maryland has the second-lowest percentage of people living below the poverty line."
We can now begin to see the effects of such policies. Be they economic, social or cultural. There are no problems in Maryland that can be laid at the feat of conservatives, Christians or Republicans. You know, the usually boogiemen of progressives? The breakdown of civility, the family and culture in Baltimore are thoroughly, completely and totally the result of progressive policies. There have been NO OTHER POLITICAL INPUTS for half a century.
To claim that housing abuse is the problem is nonsense given that both O'Malley and Glendenning aggressively used "Smart Growth" policies to control nearly every aspect of Maryland real estate. After the housing bubble popped the city went after various banks for real estate abuse, even those said banks were following the edicts of Annapolis.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01......html?_r=0
The best it seems you can do is to reply with the worn-out clich?s of yesteryear. Your ignorance of the state and the city runs deep.
I'm not putting blame on Republicans and Christians, but capitalism and racism. Baltimore is a particularly bad case for job loss and white flight. There is no tax base for decent schools and other aspects of a prosperous city. It's happened in other places. I am not defending Democrats, I am expressing annoyance at the rhetoric that blames Democrats and then moves on with absolutely no ideas offered, as if "aha Democrats do suck" is the end result of all human thought from Socrates on.
Democrats tend to run cities with poverty problems. That should not be a surprise. That does not imply that Republicans would do better, it simply means that the citizens know Republicans would well and truly fuck them over and smile while doing it.
If you can't build decent schools at $17,000 per pupil, then lack of funds is most definitely not the issue.
You have to look at which schools are getting the money. Maryland has high per-pupil rates but large disparities from district to district. Lack of funds is definitely an issue in schools in poorer neighborhoods. Oh, and charter schools tend to spend the most per pupil. Is that why they're so great?
Nationwide, Charters Schools Spend $1,800 Less Per Student
That $17,000 figure is for the Balitmore City Public School system.
And Utah, which spends almost the lowest, still is in the top tier in testing.
Damn boring Mormons!! No back talk, no screw ups, just studious, mindful children and loving parents.
What a concept
That does not imply that Republicans would do better, it simply means that the citizens know Republicans would well and truly fuck them over and smile while doing it.
That is mind-numbingly pathetic, even for you.
Pathetic? Maybe. But hardly surprising. That has been the Progressive line for decades now.
"Vote for us, or the evil Republicans will drink the blood of your children."
Racism? Really? In a state where the political power structure is pretty much all black?
Of course, the other side never has 'ideas.' Another squirmy excuse by weasel minds.
You're talking stupid.
And this is your response after JLB absolutely eviscerated you?
To blame race?
Capitalism and racism? The only form of capitalism in Maryland is crony capitalism.
"Maryland Gov. Martin O'Malley's childhood friend and right-hand man for a decade stands to gain from the governor's ambitious plan to subsidize development of an estimated $1.5 billion offshore wind farm...As the governor's chief of staff, Enright was deeply involved with energy issues but later said he never significantly contributed to the administration's wind energy policy. Before he left the governor's office in January 2010, he requested an ethics review clearing him and his new employer to work on the wind energy initiative. Weeks later, Beowulf Energy and Enright filed paperwork with the state identifying the company as an interested developer of offshore wind."
http://www.washingtonpost.com/.....ePage.html
Authorities, who had been monitoring Mr. Johnson's cell phone since January, arrested the couple Friday. They appeared in federal court in Greenbelt where prosecutors unsealed an affidavit accusing them of tampering with evidence and destruction of records in a federal investigation, both felonies that carry up to 20 years in prison.
In an affidavit, authorities said that since 2006 the FBI has been looking into unnamed real estate developers in Prince George's "regularly providing things of value to public officials" in exchange for favorable treatment.
Read more: http://www.washingtontimes.com.....z3Yw5YWtMW
"Longtime Maryland Sen. Ulysses Currie, one of the most powerful and popular figures in the General Assembly, was indicted Wednesday on charges that he took more than $245,000 in bribes to use his position and influence to do favors for a grocery chain. "
http://www.washingtonpost.com/.....03939.html
As for racism, as the Reason article states and even a cursory examination of Maryland clearly shows, is that progressives are fully in charge of the state, if there's any racism in public policy it comes from the democrats.
Like Tony, I blame Booossshhh !
Tony, you and your fellow travelers have completely destroyed the black family in this country with 50 years of lame paternalistically racist policies. You are the reason black fathers are not around and you are the reason that young black men drop out of school and commit a disproportionate amount of violent crimes. It isn't capitalism, or christians, or republicans. It's you. And every single progressive SJW. Every one of you is a traitor and a moron. You don't care about these people. You care about Marxism.
Fucking over blacks is just another delivery system for you to get that Marxism. As is all this shit with gay marriage and any other phony cause you subnormals champion. You don't care who you have to step over to get it.
You have a lot of blood on your hands. But then, you don;t care about that. There is only one kind of red that matters to a traitor like you. And it is not the spilled blood of blacks.
I'm back.
from a fresh interview with David Simon. A man that knows the city better than anyone here and who as we all know never call himself a libertarian or heaven forbid a republican.
"The drug war began it, certainly, but the stake through the heart of police procedure in Baltimore was Martin O'Malley." - David Simon
I suggest everyone read that article.
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/.....sm-america
None of that is real or genuine.
/tony
Rekt. Pwned. Absolutely dismantled.
Wow. Just wow. Completely incinerated him.
I'm embarrassed on his behalf.
Well done.
+1
Jordan wins with evidence and those fussy things called numbers and facts.
Tony, try again but with less feeeellllzzzzzz.
[I]t's an idea whose outcomes have been so riddled with corruption and waste that it's surprising anyone still advocates it, especially as a panacea.
That's just a tad harsh on public education.
Neither will stroking your I-hate-Democrats hardon, which is apparently what counts as the major thesis of every political argument in these parts.
The projection...It's GLORIOUS!!!
Tony
Black mayor. Black police commish. Black DA. Predominantly black city council. Black President. Young black men keep getting arrested in Baltimore for drug possession because of racism statist progressiveism.
"loss of jobs"
It's just terrible that other countries are allowed to have jerbs too. We should bomb them again. Or the major unions could stop driving away industry and the state could stop crowding out the credit market. No, no, let's just bomb Japan again.
"What could be simpler to solving poverty, by definition a lack of money, than money? Preferably in the form of good jobs"
I have a broken wine skin that's empty; Tony's solution: pour more wine into it, that'll fix it!
But your right, what we need to do is spend more money to manufacture more jerbs. By the way, do you know what a job is, Tony? Because you talk about it like it's a commodity we have a shortage of. Let me give you a remedial course in logic: a shortage of jerbs means surplus labor that is not being put to use to produce goods that would be demanded by the market if produced. What is necessary to motivate putting this labor to use is investment. In other words, shortage of jobs=shortage of investment, or misplaced investment (such as, I don't know, misplaced by the government); the solution is less spending by the state, not more.
So the rioting is due to policies that predate the Democrat rule of the city, which started 48 years ago. So the policies from 20 years before most of the rioters were born are important, but the policies currently in force aren't.
" I thought libertarians liked simple solutions to complex problems. "
They favor letting people decide what the solution is for themselves.
"What could be simpler to solving poverty, by definition a lack of money, than money? Preferably in the form of good jobs."
And exactly who is going to create those good jobs? The jobs that left Baltimore under the Democrats. Who is going to pay for what you want? Not such a simple solution now is it?
So the rioting is due to policies that predate the Democrat rule of the city, which started 48 years ago. So the policies from 20 years before most of the rioters were born are important, but the policies currently in force aren't.
" I thought libertarians liked simple solutions to complex problems. "
They favor letting people decide what the solution is for themselves.
"What could be simpler to solving poverty, by definition a lack of money, than money? Preferably in the form of good jobs."
And exactly who is going to create those good jobs? The jobs that left Baltimore under the Democrats. Who is going to pay for what you want? Not such a simple solution now is it?
Well said, the entire post. I think you nailed it.
The core problems are...discriminatory housing policies from decades ago whose effects persist...
Could you please elaborate on the effects. I don't really know what "effects" you are referring to here.
^This was meant to be a reply to Tony. I posted in the wrong spot.
Racist housing policies created what are now sometimes referred to as "inner cities." A segregated city is one whose problems can be shoved onto the underclass and then ignored.
Racist housing policies created what are now sometimes referred to as "inner cities." A segregated city is one whose problems can be shoved onto the underclass and then ignored.
I'm sorry but that did not answer my question. You just relabeled "effects" as "problems". What "problems" are shoved onto the underclass from past housing discrimination?
Bad schools and few jobs?
Bad schools = public sector unions paying off Dem politicians in the form of campaign contributions.
Few jobs = Dem administrations raising taxes on business who move out of state or out of country. I live in NJ. Mercedes just move it's corporate offices out of the state into GA taking 5000 jobs with it.
Face it, Tony. The blue cities ate up all their seed corn.
Isn't that equally a problem inherent to capitalism? We could lower all taxes to zero but that would cause its own problems. It's why I find it hilarious that people blame Detroit's problems on liberalism, as if it isn't purely the victim of capitalism working as advertised. Globalization is not making it easy to maintain well-paying jobs in the civilized world, and it's not an easy problem to solve. A race to the bottom among the states will benefit corporations in the short term, but having a population unable to afford their products is not good for the long term, for them or anyone else.
Just as you don't understand what 'money' means, you don't understand what capitalism means.
Capitalism worked in a completely predictable manner in Detroit - it left because it wasn't welcome. What was left was the crony style corporatism that Democrats love. You know, the union of the state with corporate and union interests? The Italians and Germans used different names for it, though.
Oh, Republicans love corporatism too; they just have a kind of crony - a different corporate constituency to feed upon.
Look, this conversation is pointless. Contrary to Obama's declarations, our economy is shit and it's not getting better anytime soon. We're in a debt super-cycle like every other debt super-cycle, expect exponentially and globally much, much worse. Hard times are coming.
The economy is shit but it's relatively less shit than other advanced countries, largely because we managed (against type) some actual stimulus while they all tried austerity (that would be your prescription).
Such as? Japan has had decades of Keynesian stimulus and no nominal economic growth.
Oh, Jesus.
We better off because we have the world's reserve currency. Every other nation is forced to borrow in dollars.
By the way, the EU didn't engage in "austerity". They just decreased the rate at which they were increasing their rate of spending.
Stop watching CNBC and reading Krugman. They're rotting your brain.
The US economy is a train wreck waiting to happen, a veritable Titanic heading toward an iceberg.
This disaster is because of stimulus not in spite of it, this is because of an ever growing government, expanding debt and deficit, and an ever spending federal reserve gleefully providing the resources through currency debasement. Currency debasement increases the rate of inflation, reduces the spending power of savings. Currency debasement is theft, no other word for it.
also, If the economy had been allowed to re-adjust back in 2008, instead of paying off the crony capitalist and corporatist with stimulus money graciously printed by the fed, then the debt and deficit would now be under control and austerity would not become a necessity to shrink the ever expanding budget deficits.
This was all Obammy's watch too btw, the great socialist community agitator in chief.
Er.
No.
Just.
No.
There is no "problem" there. Overall, the entire world, including Americans, benefit from globalization. Your income may or may not go up nominally, but the fact that Chinese workers produce stuff cheaply for you means that you are, in fact, a lot better off than you were.
"Corporations" are magical evil creatures, they are simply collections of shareholders. Yes, markets and competition benefit corporations, and hence shareholders, and hence all of us, because your retirement, and my retirement, and my city's rainy day fund, and lots of other resources each and every one relies on is what these "corporations" are made up of.
You don't worry your pretty little head about who can afford what. I guarantee you that corporations are very good at figuring out how to price things so that people buy their stuff.
And corporations' bottom lines are the most important thing.
Bad schools
Would not school choice, through parent controlled vouchers, be a remedy to this problem? It would certainly give parents more options.
Why are the schools bad, and why are there few jobs? If those are the problems what are the solutions? And, how does decades old segregation policies make schools bad? Are you suggesting putting blacks together ruins the schools? Sounds like you are. If so, why?
Poverty makes schools bad, education less valuable, selling drugs lucrative, families more unstable, health problems worse... I could go on. The problem is half of the political spectrum is fundamentally opposed to relieving poverty (meaning distributing wealth downward). Maybe we can make a small compromise effort by selling off some of the tanks local cops get to use and distributing the proceeds?
"Poverty makes schools bad........"
This is some pretty banal bullshit.
Accountability is way more important than total dollars spent on anything.
In NJ we have Abbott school districts. Abbott districts are economically disadvantaged. They're located in Camden, Newark, Jersey City. Via additional statewide funding, they receive twice the per pupil budget as regular districts. So, a regular district receives about 10k in funding per pupil. Abbott districts receive 20K. This had been mandated since 1985 - more than 30 years of generous funding to disadvantaged school districts. The results? Not a fucking thing. No improvement in test scores, no improvement in graduation rates.
But, yeah, let's not use real evidence. Let's just spend MOAR!!!!!!
Baltimore is second in per pupil spending, wealth is clearly being redistributed downward quite heavily already. Sell the tanks, please, the proceeds will go down the toilet like the rest though.
Poverty makes schools bad[...].
Unaccountable public employees and the disincentives created by the public-funding model aren't to blame at all, right Toe-Knee?
"Poverty makes schools bad"
Is that why my grandfather, born and raised in a glorified shack with 6 siblings and who went to school in a 1 room school house with virtually no funding, was able to become an electrical engineer who designed a major portion of Miami's electrical infrastructure? How about my neighbor growing up who lived in a 1 room shack and was the daughter of sharecroppers was able to get a good education and escape poverty?
Education is cultural.
The people you call "poor" in the US are better off than many middle class people in Europe, they are simply not as well off as other Americans. And you aren't going to alleviate their "poverty" by redistributing wealth downward, because their poverty is at its root cultural, not material.
The people you call "poor" in the US are better off than many middle class people in Europe, they are simply not as well off as other Americans. And you aren't going to alleviate their "poverty" by redistributing wealth downward, because their poverty is at its root cultural, not material.
Racist, uninformed nonsense.
Tony|5.2.15 @ 10:38AM|#
"Racist, uninformed nonsense."
Damn mirror!
Asshole, that's what you spout nearly every time you show up.
Well, given that Baltimore's per pupil spending is near the top for the entire country (just behind NYC, Boston, and DC), it's obviously not a lack of money that makes those schools so awful.
And there are plenty of jobs in Baltimore, just not ones that many of the inner city residents qualify for.
And those policies are 100% Democrat.
You mean those racist housing policies when Democrats administration like La Guardia's built projects, bulldozed down "slums", and forced poor people into those projects. Yeah, I agree those racist housing policies brutalized the urban poor. Democrats destroying cities with their good intentions.
A segregated city is one whose problems can be shoved onto the underclass and then ignored.
Isn't the author making the same point, in the main: The elected representatives(Democrats) of Baltimore are "ignoring" or magnifying the problems of the underclass.
Um, no. Banks are not racist in their distribution of mortgages, or certainly not in favor of white people. Black people have a harder time getting mortgages for the same old reasons: worse credit, lower income, lower savings rates, greater incidence of tax delinquency, etc. The whole "banks are racist" excuse is quite tired Tony. Case in point, who has the easiest time getting mortgages? White people? White privilege, latent white supremacy, among teh rethuglican bankers, that the problem?
Nope: Asians. Asians have the easiest time getting mortgages; in fact the disparity between Asians and whites is greater than the one between whites and hispanics. Now, in the real world where we think, we know this is because variables conducive to good credit tend to correlate with being Asian. But you want to keep blaming whitw racism for residential self-segregation, then you'd better make up for lost time and start complaining about Asian privilege and institutional Asian supremacy.
And by "racist housing policies", you mean the fact that as a light-skinned male, I would get beaten up or worse if I tried to rent a place in an African American neighborhood? Yes, you're right, there is a lot of racism.
It's really no different than trying to say Republicans share the blame for the disaster of Obamacare, for which absolutely no Republican voted.
Democrats try to argue that Obamacare is so bad because Republicans prevented him from implementing what he really wanted to implement. The stupidity is hair-raising.
Yes, because they couldn't just pass through what they really wanted when they didn't need a single republican vote to pass the legislation.
Of course we can, and should, blame democrats.
However, on the other side of that, I live in Idaho where Republicans have controlled the state for decades (and still do) and yes, life is good here for business, bad for everyone else. There is a distinct upper political/business class and everyone else works for them. I think we all know the bottom line is government intervention/control of markets. It's only good for those who are buddy buddy with the politicians in power (in Idaho's case, big business).
Personally, I hate both parties equally. But in this case, blame the dems! ha
"There is a distinct upper political/business class and everyone else works for them. "
Where is that NOT true?
I'm not sure. It's just easy to recognize when it's the place you live. Maybe it's more obvious because I live in a "resort town." ??? Or just more extreme? Idk.
Maybe you should start a business.
"massive amounts of spending"
On the poor and marginalized in the inner city? Cite missing. What's the ratio of spending on the DoD or how much is given away in the form of corporate tax credits to spending on Medicaid or Welfare? 50:1?
The problem with right-wingers is that they've systematically destroyed the social safety net by underfunding it and then they ask-- after its predictable failure-- why are we spending this money and why are all these Black people so busy bitching? --throws up hands-- i mean, fuck me.
Nearly 70% of the federal budget is spent on the social safety net in the form of Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, and other services, but the Republicans have destroyed the net. Yeah, right. Jesus, give me a fucking break.
Dumbasses think social security and Medicare are for the poor.
So the social safety net is only for the poor? Wait, wut?
And, you said Republicans destroyed the social safety net. The programs I listed are the social safety net. How have they been destroyed?
Mendacious socialist scum think ever-increasing Medicaid, SSI disability, food stamp, and a host of other social safety spending equates to "destruction of the safety net."
Social Security and healthcare alone are 48% of the budget. DOD is 17%.
And this is federal, the whole country would be like Baltimore if the federal budget were to blame, not just the blue parts. And u don't think you understand how social security is funded, or many other things. That criticism doesn't even make sense.
Even if it was 100:1 it wouldn't matter, as the ratio is irrelevant. Both sides have, by and large, been increasing.
How about a school system that spends $17,000 per pupil?
[Massive amounts of spending on] the poor and marginalized in the inner city? Cite missing.
Let's assume your implied doubt is true.
Coupled with the indisputable fact that Democrats control (and have controlled for decades) spending in the major cities, why hasn't the party that "cares for the poor" directed said spending toward the poor and marginalized? Could it be that all that money corrupts politicians who spend it on their cronies, and that therefore it is unwise to keep giving these politicians so much money?
Total DoD Budget (inc. DOE and related activities at FBI, etc.): $636.6BB
Total Medicaid spending in the US: $438,233,172,298
So, Medicaid ALONE is 68.8% of the DoD outlay.
The EITC alone was $69.7BB in 2014 or 11% of the DoD budget.
SNAP costs alone were $74BB in 2014 or 11.6% of the DoD budget.
I could go on, or you could realize that you can't count (like all socialists) and STFU.
EITC is a handout? I thought all taxes are bad. I guess it depends on context. Poor people who don't have to pay taxes because of a government program= handout. Rich, corporate special interests who don't have to pay taxes because of a government program=job creation. I know! I know... I get it. The economic system that works the best is the one that shovels the most money to billionaires and their accountants.
Apparently, you do think that tax credits are handouts.
"how much is given away in the form of corporate tax credits"
That was just an hour before you posted this.
Hi Amsoc
Please provide the cite for the 50:1 DoD to social spending.
And Baltimore City government trends socialist/progressive. You'd love it there.
I got it wrong. I conflated %gdp with % of the federal budget when I looked up Medicaid spending. See what I did there? Own up to a mistake and admit to it.
So, if I admit to you that Medicare and social safety net spending is a bogey to the DoD's par that to you constitutes a sustained commitment to the poor? Why the fuck are libertarians defending defense spending anyway?
I didn't see any defense (ha!) of defense spending, just posters pointing out that your spending figures were wrong.
Commie kid lies.
About half the federal discretionary budget is military, and Medicare, Medicaid, and Social Security make up about 3/4 of the total federal spending. So there you have it: Medicaid, Medicare, and Social security spending are about eight times what we spend on the military.
(Note that that "military" spending includes a lot of hidden social spending, so it's probably bigger.)
Does that answer your question?
You do realize that the welfare state tends to grow faster under republicans, right? I know it's counter-intuitive, but it's true.
BBBUUUUUUUUUUUTTTTTTTPPPPPLLLLLUUUUUUUUUUGGGG
This is the result of the WoD and that's all there is to it.
The WOD exists everywhere in the US, not just Baltimore. Why is it worse in Baltimore?
It's not. It's the same in Detroit and Philly and D.C. and South Central and New Orleans and Miami, etc.
WoD doesn't help, but this is the result of the WoP and the rise of the socialist state.
Baltimore has more of a culture of violence. They have a stature of Ray Lewis outside the football stadium they paid for.
OK, but that's symbolism.
The reasons people are poor and in jail is a combo of the WOP and the WOD; both have proven to be amazingly effective promoters of both.
I blame the Left for everything.
And Republicans are on the Left, not on the Right.
A political party that increases the size of Government, increases the debt and deficit and undermines the freedom of the individual, is by my definition, Left of center politically, no matter they claim to be.
Meh. The right can be blamed for quite a lot of terrible shit, like the WOD and "morality" laws.
But I understand your point. I just don't like the idea of conflating classical liberalism with the right (much less the left).
couldnt agree more .... I'll bring it further tho The war on drugs is the source of so much oppression in our society the demo-publicans use it as a tool against hard core religious righties thing the war on drugs is just and moral and to protect children the left used it to argue for stricter gun control (cause of inner city violence over ) the cause of that tho is gang violence over control of drug territory end the war on drugs end the oppression
I have a question, don't you need some income inequality to have potential energy in the system so things can happen, so money can move from one place to another to do things like investing in productive enterprises?
It isn't too difficult to find gaping holes in the philosophy.
Nothing a few broken windows wouldn't fix.
Yes. And then there is the issue of risk. Too many people imagine business as being an automatic success...like being a professor, you just cash your monthly profit checks you get from HR.
But let's say you invest in Tesla. It requires a lot of money to begin a new car company.
Let's say its 100 million dollars. You will only keep such an enterprise going if you can make a return off that money. No one will risk that money for $36,000 a year.
So, by definition, many very useful enterprises will require investors to make a lot of money, and thus create inequality.
I think too many people view "business" as software start ups or financial companies where its seems like guys in sweats makes billions out of nothing, or guys in suits make millions off of other people's money. The second especially seems cheesy.
But the problem is that nobody will invest in a new kind of car/battery/restaurant if they will be limited by government inequality redistributionism.
The only way we could do this would be to have employees take on investment risk.
By the way, a great way to silence talk of wealth inequality is to be very enthusiastic and bring up the idea of including pensions as wealth. Mention that a government employee might have a couple million dollars in pension wealth if calculated as a lump sum, and that should be included and watch many an eager wealth grabber slink off.
There are two things that people should be learning from this situation and many others involving police officers' egregious use of force:
1) That it's not a race issue. What happened to Freddie Gray is a natural result of the government having unlimited power. It's about having one set of rules for police and another for citizens. I concealed carry, and if I were in similar situations to some of these cops and I shot a person, I'd be doing hard time so fast it's not funny.
2) Voting Democrat will not fix things. Look at the electoral history of Maryland and Baltimore, then try and tell me that it's the fault of "law-and-order" Republicans. I rarely have good things to say about Republicans, but some people seem to think that if only the Democrats controlled every level of government, our cops would magically transform into perfectly judicious public servants overnight.
Of course, people won't absorb these lessons. They'll just continue to believe The Narrative? that it's all a racist, RethugliKKKan conspiracy against black people.
This is what happens when idiots think they know economics:
Re: Tony,
Maybe people say Detroit is the victim of Marxian policies and not Capitalism because it is the truth. Detroit enjoyed 50 years of Marxian policies.
Globalization does not cause well-paying jobs to go away [whatever "well-paying" means in your puny mind.] It causes low-paying, low-productivity jobs to move somewhere else because of Comparative Advantage.
The idiot forgets opportunity costs - the fact that this race to the bottom notion is a Marxian fantasy, but leaving that aside for just a moment: the implication is that states should build walls around them to keep people out (or in).
Tony: Globalization is not making it easy to maintain well-paying jobs in the civilized world, and it's not an easy problem to solve.
OM: Globalization does not cause well-paying jobs to go away [whatever "well-paying" means in your puny mind.] It causes low-paying, low-productivity jobs to move somewhere else because of Comparative Advantage.
I'll add that Tony's definition of 'civilized world' is more revealing than Tony would really like to admit.
Hey, Tony! Those brown people! Not civilized are they? Still running around shrinking heads or some such? Tell us how you *know* this, Tony.
More.....
Tony: "A race to the bottom among the states will benefit corporations in the short term,"
OM: "The idiot forgets opportunity costs - the fact that this race to the bottom notion is a Marxian fantasy, but leaving that aside for just a moment: the implication is that states should build walls around them to keep people out (or in)."
I won't leave that aside; it is the typical proggy 'talking point' absolutely refuted by historical evidence. We will ignore that Tony is probably too young to have direct experience, but not that he claims to be educated:
Hey, Tony! Tell us how cheap wages in Japan and Germany depressed US wages post WWII! And how the wages in those countries were kept low by the evil KKKKorporations!
Or you could leave the discussion to the adults and STFU
Brown people don't deserve jerbz! Jerbz are for 'muricans!
Hey Tony, tell me why I'm suppose to care more about some dumbass high school dropout in Detroit not having a 60k a year job at GM because the AUW refused to reform its pensions than about a Japanese guy working at Toyota who doesn't want to steal my money? Personally, I think I like the latter guy better than the former. I'd rather keep him employed.
I told you that your quota was up. Speak like a grownup now.
"Marxian" actually is a real word that has an academic meaning distinct from "Marxist".
I know, and apparently OM discovered it a few weeks ago and is milking it like a goat. Meanwhile nobody here or anywhere else is a fucking communist.
Tony|5.2.15 @ 10:40AM|#
"Meanwhile nobody here or anywhere else is a fucking communist."
OH! OH! LOOK!
Our fave lying lefty is trotting out the old lies now! 'Real' communism has never been tried, right?
Fucking liar.
So says the guy who's always calling people "racists."
Re: Tony,
I've been using it for 2 years in Spanish-language Facebook pages to describe Marxian idiots like you, in the diminutive (i.e. "marxianitos") which translates to little marxians, a play of words which sounds similar to "marcianitos" or little Martians.
You don't have to be a card-carrying communist to be a little red marxian. Someone who blames capitalism for the woes of a community that has seen opportunities slip away because of onerous regulations and taxation can only be a little red marxian, even without calling himself a communist.
Tony, maybe if you'd stop calling us facists or Republicans we'd stop calling you communist.
Something, something, goose...something, something, gander...
"Meanwhile nobody here or anywhere else is a fucking communist."
I like this claim that there are no communists.
anywhere.
I'm not a democrat but I've seen this title posted on every right leaning sight today... And idk how everyone is ignoring the war on drugs especially libertarian leaning reason i haven't read one substantive article about how the war on drugs creates a haven of violence and oppression that leads to the unrest currently taking place the stats back up the argument... dissapointing to say the least
"And idk how everyone is ignoring the war on drugs especially libertarian leaning reason i haven't read one substantive article about how the war on drugs creates a haven of violence and oppression that leads to the unrest currently taking place the stats back up the argument... dissapointing to say the least"
I can tell you are new here.
The WoD is a *constant* subject, and neither team gets a pass on it. But we have had the D team in power in the executive branch for the last 6 years, and those in power have done just about zero regarding the powers they *do* have to reduce the legal loads on black and brown kids.
For example, Obo's claim that he cannot reduce dope from the Sched 1 classification; outright lie.
If only the War on Poverty Productivity were talked about half as much as the WoD...
Musk "new battery"? Question over on the $107K theft thread...
No I'm not new I've seen tons of substantive articles on reason about drug prohibition I should have been clearer in my comment ..... I meant I'm not seeing an article comparing the current plight of black communities (Baltimore,ferguson...etc)to the war on drugs every site had an article blaming the democrats (and I'm not a democrat I believe the only way to fix America is through individual liberty not redistribution and they are just as complicit in the drug wars as the republicans )
I just expected better from reason on this topic
"I just expected better from reason on this topic"
It looks to me like you expect a *different* topic. This one is how Ds screwed up a city while Obo tries to blame Rs.
Your clout divides you I don't see any difference between republicans and democrats
Both their policies are destructive to individual liberty
I'm simply pointing out this article doesn't address the real issue and that's
BIG GOV gone wild through the war on drugs
Practically every Reason article that concerns police abuse makes reference to the WOD or some other failure of big government.
The purpose of this article is to demonstrate how Democrats - you know, the party that openly wants more government intervention - are lying when they blame Baltimore's plight on Republicans and, by extension within the public's mind, small government policies.
If you search the site for "War On Drugs" you'll find numerous articles that harshly criticize it.
Move out of Baltimore, perhaps?
That's what I'd do!
OT:
When I say what you will find behind that link is Orwellian, it is not the least bit hyperbole.
Title
Sorry, fucked up the link.
Thought Police at University of Delaware
" If a person happens to point out that Baltimore's criminally inept government has been run exclusively by Democrats since 1967 "
About the same time the Progressive kleptocrats began their uninterrupted reign in Detroit.
None of this shit (housing, schools, jobs) has anything to do with why the cops are murdering dicks. None of it.
Yes, it sounds like they want more money for stuff, and this is an excuse.
I guess the argument is the petty criminals and drug dealers of Baltimore would be at work if they had a better education and a job.
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Did the start of the War on Drugs play a significant role in creating our present economic and social realities
Not having both parents around can be directly linked to any number of issues, in fifty-years of international studies of over 10,000 subjects, researchers haven't been able to find "any other class of experience that has as strong and consistent effect on personality and personality development as does the experience of [parental] rejection? children who were often rejected by their parents tend to feel more anxious and insecure, as well as more hostile and aggressive toward others." And surprisingly enough, the study showed that fatherly affection, or lack thereof, may shape our personality even more than attention from our mothers.
Just how damaging is it for a child to grow up in a fatherless home? Well, they produce: 71% of our high school drop-outs, 85% of the kids with behavioral disorders, 90% of our homeless and runaway children, 75% of the adolescents in drug abuse programs, and a striking majority in one final category. Out of all the kids in our juvenile detention facilities, 85% of them come from fatherless homes.
If your Dad's in prison there's an extraordinary high chance that you too will someday end up behind bars, creating a cycle of absence that has been perpetuating for two-generations within the African-American community.
This is why Baltimore is like this and so many other cities around the US
Re: Letitride,
One can trace the problems in that community starting from the Great Society policies and the war on drugs, but you also have to add to the mix an accumulation of terrible public policies which are downright hostile to capital creation, like local licensing laws, zoning laws, minimum wage laws and payroll taxes. All those things taken together create the perfect combination to turn a community that should be able to lift itself from its bootstraps into something that one would see in downtown Habana.
Re: Tony,
I've been using it for 2 years in Spanish-language Facebook pages to describe Marxian idiots like you, in the diminutive (i.e. "marxianitos") which translates to little marxians, a play of words which sounds similar to "marcianitos" or little Martians.
You don't have to be a card-carrying communist to be a little red marxian. Someone who blames capitalism for the woes of a community that has seen opportunities slip away because of onerous regulations and taxation can only be a little red marxian, even without calling himself a communist.
Re: Tony,
I am left to wonder how was it that countries that were poor at one time were able to raise themselves from poverty if their schools were unavoidably bad and education less valuable. Perhaps the knowledge fairy?
You keep making it clear to anyone with frontal lobes that you argue not through premises or principles but through cliches, talking points and slogans. You say "poverty makes schools bad" with not even a slight deference to logic, only because it sounds so pretty.
You are correct in one respect - there ARE people actively working on keeping millions of people in poverty, but only because they draw their rents from such situation. We normal people call such rent-seekers Community Activists, City Councilmen and Government Bureaucrats, but of course you think that anyone who does not want to open their wallets (willingly or not) is somehow against raising people from poverty.
He emotes. That's all he does. And the writer part it's he wouldn't have even come back ITT after being pwnt if it hasn't been for that wrecked feminist cunt bliss. I think we should have a new policy for new trolls: heckle mercilessly and endlessly on sight as soon as they out themselves. No need to let them take root and become another shriek/bo/Joe from Lowell.
Chinese peasants are dumb as rocks. But they were very cheap.
So they could be decent factory workers...who slowly become better over time, or the next generation does.
As long as the government allowed capitalists to set up factories.
I see The logic at work here: liberal agendas, a liberal black council/mayor/chief, none of that is to blame for the condition that Baltimore finds itself in because once there was this white Republican in a city someplace and that city had troubles, too. Really. "We are not responsible because someone else did it, too?" So if a black representative, say, took a $90,000 bribe and hide it in his freezer then a white guy can't be responsible if he does it? Seems like you live in a dream state to me. Baltimore spends almost the highest rate for education in the country and your answer to failing students is to give teachers more money? Your entire social infrastructure is black, but it was those damned white republicans that caused your failure, huh? The police are racists because the arrest law breaking blacks, but the only officer up on murder charges in this appeasement charade is black? How about you fix your own problems, take responsibility and quit blaming someone else? Yeah, i'm looking at you Elijah Cummings.
The police are racists because the arrest law breaking blacks, but the only officer up on murder charges in this appeasement charade is black?
That's just further proof of how pervasive white privilege is.
/Joan Walsh
They don't need more money. They need changes to the process. The best way to do this is to have competition and consumer choice. School vouchers.
I think its pretty obvious the Democrats would like to say this is a problem of racism rather than of management.
At the city level, it excuses their management and they can safely be re-elected.
At the national level, Obama may use this to nationalize the police. Which sounds like a typical Democrat solution: add more money, make it bigger, make it national.
At the electoral level, Hillary needs to get the black voters out to vote. She's not exactly Obama on that score, so expect more of this stuff.
(For example, why did we finally find out 3 of 6 cops were black, including the driver only after the riots?)
Here are my management solutions:
Camera in all paddy wagons. If the cameras "malfunction" and any "event" occurs, officers are fired.
Also, have the seatbelt do the loud beeping thing it does in my car.
Police or their unions must provide personal liability insurance for all police officers.
Remove sovereign immunity. Taxpayers shouldn't pay for lawsuit payouts.
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I don't understand. Progressives always tell me that blue states have all the good jobs. So, why would urban areas need more investment?
And if they did need more government money, wouldn't they be able to find it locally with all those super-productive blue state creative companies? Just tax them some more.
No need for federal government to do anything.
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