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'Free-Range' Parents Will Sue CPS for Grabbing Their Kids

The Meitivs get a lawyer

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The Meitivs are lawyering up, and will file some kind of lawsuit against Montgomery County, Maryland, officials who took their children while the youngsters were walking outside by themselves.

Matthew Dowd, a partner at Wiley Rein LLP, will represent the Meitivs free of charge, according to this statement on Danielle Meitiv's Facebook wall:

Matthew Dowd, a partner with Wiley Rein, states: "The Meitivs are rightfully outraged by the irresponsible actions of Maryland CPS and Montgomery County Police. We must ask ourselves how we reached the point where a parent's biggest fear is that government officials will literally seize our children off the streets as they walk in our neighborhoods. The Meitivs intend to fully vindicate their rights as parents and their children's rights, and to prevent this from happening to their children again. The CPS investigations and actions here are premised on a fundamental misapplication of the law and are contrary to the constitutional rights of these parents to raise their children as they see best."

The actions of Maryland CPS and Montgomery County Police violate the fundamental rights parents have in raising their children. In Troxel v. Granville, 530 U.S. 75 (2000), the Court explained that "the Due Process Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment protects the fundamental right of parents to make decisions concerning the care, custody, and control of their children." This fundamental, constitutional right of parents cannot be infringed simply because certain governmental employees disagree with a parent's reasoned decision on how to raise his or her children.

The Meitivs are troubled by the county's discretionary use of power to subject this happy, healthy and independent family to invasive, frightening and unnecessary government oversight, when there are other pressing challenges for county families in need.

Read the rest here.

The police report on Sunday night's seizure of the Meitiv kids is also available here. Quick question: Aren't prisoners allowed one phone call, or is that just on TV? Because the Meitiv kids weren't able to contact their parents in the six hours they were held by the authorities.

Hat tip: The Washington Post

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76 responses to “'Free-Range' Parents Will Sue CPS for Grabbing Their Kids

  1. Do these folks have a gofundme page yet? If I can find it I’m going to give til it feels good.

    1. Don’t see one out there yet, but check out what a search of “CPS” at the gofundme.com site returns. 239 results! But no Meitiv.

      CPS is evil, it’s as simple as that.

      1. Instead of a legal defense fund, we should put the money towards bounties on the heads of the CPS shitbag who yanked the kids and their boss. Maybe after a few decapitations CPS will get the message.

        1. Apparently you have excessive faith in your anonymizing software.

    2. On the family webpage, they have a Paypal link that funnels through the Nat’l Assn of Parents to make it tax free.

      http://daniellemeitiv.com/

      1. Just look at those weasely faces, all beady-eyed and shiftless. These, my friends, are the faces criminals. They have the faces *significant pause* of anarchists.

        1. They both work for the federal government…

      2. Thanks H.!

        1. Props on the handle, Hiro.

          Extremely geek-appropriate, given the prominent supporting role played by “Reason” in the book.

      3. Thanks for sharing the link, I kicked in what I could to help them with their fight. I hope others do as well. I wish there was a place to donate an ass kick to the fascist nanny state do gooders who make this necessary…

    3. I think Montgomery County will be hat in hand on gofundme after the Meitiv’s win all of the county assets.

  2. The state treats kids worse than they treat prisoners and it’s all legal.

    First, the kids aren’t facing criminal prosecution. Even when a kid is picked up for a crime, it’s not a criminal prosecution – but an allegation of delinquency.

    Since the kids aren’t going to be punished (remember, juvenile detension is viewed by the courts as not being a form of punishment but a way of raising kids), they don’t need the protections awarded criminal defendants facing prosecution.

    Therefore children can be denied due process rights, can face proceedings where they can be confined based on a preponderance of evidence standard etc.

    1. It is the same in the school system, while your kids are there the government has full control. If they declare an emergency they are allowed to transport children to any location, without notice to parents and hold children in undisclosed locations indefinitely. But it is all for the protection and good welfare of the children.

  3. The Meitivs are troubled by the county’s discretionary use of power to subject this happy, healthy and independent family to invasive, frightening and unnecessary government oversight

    Happy, healthy, and independent thanks to the tireless efforts of the Maryland CPS and Montgomery County Police. Children would be whisked away from their home and parents by strangers if not for their work.

    1. They already are being “whisked away by strangers,” it’s the CPS and police doing the abductions.

      1. See!! CPS is right!

        “Nice kids ya got there. Be a shame if someone snatched ’em.’

  4. MAY MONTGOMERY COUNTY MARYLAND FIND ITSELF BANKRUPT AND BROKEN!

    1. Like countless California municipalities… oh, wait.

      No lessons learned.

  5. Quick question: Aren’t prisoners allowed one phone call, or is that just on TV? Because the Meitiv kids weren’t able to contact their parents in the six hours they were held by the authorities.

    Only criminals need to make a phone calls and the cops and CPS being kidnappers, got to make all the calls they wanted to so I don’t see the problem here.

  6. You know at this point I am really waiting for a group of those guys who blocked the Feds from evicting that guy in Nevada to show up at this families home and give them an armed escort every where they go

    1. I cannot think of a worse scenario for everyone involved. They’d turn the Meitivs home into Waco 2.0. Rural Nevada, there’s room for crowds of armed malcontents. Suburban Maryland, the county cops would be driving MRAPS through their living room.

      1. That would be pretty cool, seeing an MRAP stuck in a basement like that.

      2. I cannot think of a worse scenario for everyone involved.

        Turned out well in Nevada.

        1. Exactly, the only way this stops is for real push back to begin. In the end bureaucrat tyrants will always take the easy path, it is why they choose their jobs in the first place, if it is easy to do this they will continue, if it becomes difficult they will stop.

        2. I happen to know the BLM agent in charge of the Bundy mess. He was sure he had the biggest swinging dick west of the Mississippi. Him having to back down couldn’t have happened to a more deserving person.

        3. Depends on what you call turning out well. The government backing down because of a bunch of armed thugs who claimed they were going to use women and children as human shields is not really working out well. All over an effort to protect someone who was doing something illegal.

      3. While I don’t necessarily disagree with you lets face it, this is a far more egregious case of government overreach and persecution than that one was.

    2. An interesting variation would be to give the cops and CPS an armed escort, to protect them from outraged families.

    3. Perhaps the Meitivs should start spouting racist nonsense…

  7. Fuck yes. It’s about time.

  8. Kick ass.

    Hopefully, at the end of this, Meitiv’s attorney will turn to him with a check in the range of 9 figures and say “You see, sir, the United States is not yet as bad as the Soviet Union”.

  9. Now if the Meitivs were allowing a daughter to get drunk and go to frat parties, any criticism of them would be “victim blaming.”

  10. I know it won’t happen, but there’s a little part of me that wishes that, when the lawsuits are done, the Meitivs own Montgomery County, Maryland. Then the kids could roam as far as they wanted, and the police and CPS could never complain about them leaving their back yard.

  11. Quick question: Aren’t prisoners allowed one phone call, or is that just on TV? Because the Meitiv kids weren’t able to contact their parents in the six hours they were held by the authorities.

    They weren’t prisoners, they were wards. Procedures were followed. New training may be necessary, vote YES in next week’s bond issue.

  12. Hell ya!

    If there is one thing I am a firm believer in, it is that you SUE to get a redress of grievances when cop-o-crats and govt in general goes too far.

    It has worked for me. Been very very good to me.

    I hope it works for them, because Goddammit this case is fucking ridiculous!!!

    1. Hey not-Dunphy troll, whoever you are, you realize that earlier today you forgot to sign out of this account before arguing with yourself? https://reason.com/blog/2015/04…..nt_5229304

  13. They left these two kids in the back of a squad car for three hours? I live in the DC area of Maryland myself and that day was pretty warm and sunny, definitely not “sit in a car for three hours” weather.

    Wasn’t someone arrested for leaving their kids in a car for 15 minutes once? Fucking hypocrites.

    1. However, at that age I’d be all, wow, we got to sit in a real police car for 3 hours! Next time maybe they’ll put on the siren & let me drive! When can we go again?

      1. A 10-year-old kid knows the difference between cops letting him sit in a cruiser, and cops making him sit in a cruiser. And if big brother knew, little brother picked up on it.

  14. You just don’t see this insanity in Europe or Canada.

    Why does it happen in the U.S.A of all places?

  15. The county losing a lawsuit (hopefully) isn’t as good as individual cops and CPS staff being convicted of kidnapping, but it’s a start.

  16. They should move. But if they did they are likely keeping the same problem (if they move to Frederick or PG Counties), looking ar long commutes (if they go to NOVA), lookng at hell (if they move to DC), or medial jobs (if they go anywhere else since they both have goverent hack jobs that liky aren’t available anywhere else).

  17. Good for them. I hope they nail those fucking apparatchiki to the wall.

    -jcr

  18. TAR AND FEATHERS

  19. The Meitivs better win, or the next generation is really screwed.

  20. Ironic how it’s the cops who kidnap kids, not creepy kid-touchers. Then again those are not always mutually exclusive.

    Seriously though, these parents better capitulate or leave the state if they want to keep their kids.

    1. “Seriously though, these parents better capitulate or leave the state if they want to keep their kids.”

      Yeah, I expect that to be the case. The one thing the Apparatchiks won’t put up with is having their authority questioned. Asserting dominance is Job 1.

      With enough laws, everyone is a criminal, and they’ll fuck you when they wanna.

      You know. For the children.

  21. Danielle’s work as a climate scientist includes at least one published paper that supports AGW Here

  22. You should read the linked documents. The comments on the facebook page are… well, scary. There is a definite contingent that believes that nobody under 16 should ever be left unsupervised under any circumstances. One guy seriously asserts that no more than 2% of parents in the US would be OK with a first grader walking to the park with a 5th grader. That really underlines the difference between coastal inner-city folk and flyover country folk. 600 yards from home isn’t even to the neighbor’s house for a large portion of the nation.

    The police report is very informative. From their point of view a neighbor called about possible neglect, and when they found the kids a homeless guy was looking at the kids. The report refers to the kids as “victims” throughout. It appears that the homeless guy is just thrown in there as a red herring to make their actions sound more reasonable. They don’t claim he did anything, and the presence of a homeless child molester in the neighborhood would have no impact on a decision to take the kids into custody instead of escorting them home.

    Apparently their procedures are to contact CPS every time they have any such allegation of neglect. And CPS didn’t return the call. That’s why the long delay. Also, they can’t return the kids until CPS determines that they will be safe. They never mention anything about the kids saying “I live right over there!” But they do mention that they had to pee. Took them 20 mins to find a bathroom.

    1. I’ll bet a paycheck that the “homeless guy” doesn’t actually exist.

      1. My thought as well.

        I’ve similarly wondered about the supposed “citizen’s complaint” that led the cops to go after Garner.

    2. The police report is very informative.

      Police reports are works of fiction, loosely based on fact. They are filled with exaggerations (lies), embellishments (lies), and intentionally neglect to mention important information (lies by omission).

      If you believe a word of a police report without proof to back it up, then you are a fool.

      1. ^^This. A police report is a narrative by those in power for those in power.

    3. Ok. Now can we finally PLEASE wipe out the progressives?

  23. I wonder if any elected official of Montgomery County is even dimly aware that the county budget just got hosed? In such a person’s place I would be dictating termination letters left and right, for gross incompetence.

  24. Those kids are definitely not fucking safe walking on the streets. Obviously, the local criminals aren’t up to the task of stealing these tykes so they will be kidnapped once and for all by the most enterprising nasty- the local government.

    For the sake of safeguarding these kids from all the social justice freaks I’m all for the parents holding off on the very normal behavior of allowing their kids to walk to the park until the outcome of their litigation determines the next course of action.

    At this point the gravest threat to that family is not fake homeless people and serial killers in vans- it is agents from so-called protective services causing irreparable harm to a decent family.

    1. Is there anyone you know who isn’t more worried about abuse from criminal government than abuse from your run of the mill freelance criminals?

  25. ” Because the Meitiv kids weren’t able to contact their parents in the six hours they were held by the authorities.”

    BFYTW.

  26. Protective custody has no rules. When you detain people for their own good, you can do whatever you like with them. You can put them in solitary confinement and not tell anybody. The people at CPS probably calculated, how long do we have to keep these children to teach their parents a lesson? They may have even felt they were doing the Meitivs a favor by returning their children that evening!

    That is great news that the Meitivs are fighting back, but the children might be grown up before the court case is settled. Wouldn’t it be great if this one goes to the Supreme Court? Every CPS in every state would have to pay attention.

    The possibility still exists that the Meitivs could lose their children. We have seen how much the internet can focus public opinion. I truly hope the Meitivs win their case, and keep their children. Meantime, the children will have an interesting childhood, no matter what happens. I sure hope it’s a happy one.

    1. Now I see the police held the children for so long because CPS didn’t call back! Good work!

  27. A basic rule when you are out in nature is, don’t mess with a mother who is protecting her babies. Boy, did CPS and the police make a mistake! First they made her mad, then they took her children! If there’s any justice, those people are going to pay.

    Some cartoonist needs to draw a picture of Montgomery County CPS locked in the stocks, in the public square. Overhead the sign should read, “Guilty of child endangerment.”

    CPS will be looking at public opinion on this one. Other parents, no matter what their position on roaming, should support the Meitivs in this case. CPS and the police transformed the conflict from one over free ranging, to a case of kidnapping. Every parent should take a stand against state kidnapping, no matter what level of parental supervision they believe appropriate for their own children.

    1. The Mom’s clearly an attention whore. But hey, the law firm is doing this pro bono. Let’s sink the county.

      1. The Mom’s clearly an attention whore.

        Yeah, I can’t imagine why a parent would be upset about her kids being kidnapped by the cops and the government blackmailing her to get them back.

        Let’s sink the county.

        That’s certainly a best-case scenario.

    2. If there’s any justice, those people are going to pay.

      When the people who commit injustice are on the same team as those tasked with dealing out justice, then there is no justice.

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  29. This idea that prisoners are entitled to a phone call is completely false. Once processed they can make a call if they have money on their account but no facility provides a free phone call to prisoners. Most phone calls are charged in the multi-dollar per minute range even for local calls. The prison phone industry is serious business and a total scam.

  30. And just below the link to this article on Facebook, is a link to an opposing view. And – serpriiize, serpriiize, serpriiize – it’s on a Bloomberg site.

    http://www.bloombergview.com/a…..-parenting

    1. Okay, the author seems sympathetic to the Meitivs, but the reasons she surmises on are still worth noting.

  31. That’s not a police report – it’s a press release stressing how the cops did everything by the book.

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  34. My parents would have been crucified by a CPS type agency for me walking home from school when I was in the 3rd grade (back in the day…).

    What I don’t understand is how parents can be held accountable for their children’s actions in some court cases and yet have their rights as a parent stripped away by bureaucrats. Either the “State” has complete authority and the parents are not responsible for their kids actions in any way, or the “State” should fuck off and let parents teach their kids how to actually survive in the world without big nanny bullshit in their faces.

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  36. Google pay 97$ per hour my last pay check was $8500 working 1o hours a week online. My younger brother friend has been averaging 12k for months now and he works about 22 hours a week. I cant believe how easy it was once I tried it out.
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