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Hillary Clinton

What Does Hillary Clinton Stand For? Getting Elected President, Apparently.

Campaign site is all about the biography, not the issues.

Scott Shackford | 4.13.2015 10:35 AM

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Large image on homepages | Hillary for America
(Hillary for America)
"I'll vote for you if you promise to stop smiling like that."
Hillary for America

A website for a presidential campaign should probably be fairly simple and easy to navigate. They don't want to scare away potential voters, donors or volunteers with a site that's too complex to figure out.

Hillary Clinton's campaign may have taken the idea a bit too far. On Hillary Clinton's campaign site, which launched Sunday along with her campaign, there's hardly anything there at all. More specifically, there's no "issues" section to help potential voters grasp where she stands on the topics of the day. It's really easy to find out how to volunteer or donate money. But want to find out what Clinton stands for, well, she stands for you electing her, it seems.

Clinton does have her bio on the site, noting her accomplishments in various roles, as briefly as can be managed. Here's what she has to say about her recent stint as secretary of state:

And when President Obama asked Hillary to serve as his secretary of state, she put aside their hard-fought campaign and answered the call to public service once again. After eight years of Bush foreign policy, Hillary was instrumental in starting to restore America's standing in the world. Even former Republican Secretary of State Henry Kissinger said she "ran the State Department in the most effective way that I've ever seen."

She built a coalition for tough new sanctions against Iran that brought them to the negotiating table and she brokered a ceasefire between Israel and Hamas that ended a war and protected Israel's security. She was a forceful champion for human rights, internet freedom, and rights and opportunities for women and girls, LGBT people and young people all around the globe.

What, no mention of Libya? Here's the fact-checker over at The Washington Post on whether this Iran coalition started developing during the Obama Administration or before (spoiler: before).  But that's nitpicky stuff. Obviously a biography for a presidential candidate is going to play up his or her role in every single event, Forrest Gump-style. The Facebook feed for Clinton's campaign has been fully seeded with all of her past accomplishments highlighted on her timeline.

But even so, her biography is just a bread and cheese course meant to be sampled before moving on to her goals as president. And they're just not there. Both Ted Cruz and Rand Paul have "issues" sections on their campaign sites. Cruz's is tied to his record, which seems kind of like what Clinton is trying to do, but Cruz still has the site separated into issue categories, and makes it very, very easy to know where he stands. Even Barack Obama's campaign page for his second term had an "issues" section, and we all knew what he was about by then.

Is this a warning sign that Clinton's campaign is going to be all about identities rather than issues? Though Obama's presidency may feel tainted with identity politics, it's important to remember he did actually campaign on issues. Clinton says in her bio she's in favor of children and families, like those are actual positions. Where's the entrée, madam secretary?

Could Clinton's lack of primary opposition be a reason why there's no pressure on her campaign to differentiate itself with actual positions at this point in the fight? Peter Suderman suggested in January that the lack of testing and challenges for Clinton could be a problem for the campaign after the primaries. Read more about that here.

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Scott Shackford is a policy research editor at Reason Foundation.

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  1. sarcasmic   10 years ago

    It's her turn. What else needs to be said?

    1. Charles Easterly   10 years ago

      Indeed.

      To harp on about her, at this point, is sexist.

      1. Bo Cara Esq.   10 years ago

        It's almost like there might be a difference between a college undergrad and a former Senator, SOS and Presidential candidate...

        1. Sudden   10 years ago

          Ya, one of them hasn't proved herself completely incompetent and corrupt yet

          1. sarcasmic   10 years ago

            What difference does it make?

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              1. JFree   10 years ago

                Hillary? Is that you?

          2. Mickey Rat   10 years ago

            She admits to incompetence in order to rationalize not following security procedures she enforces on her subordinates.

            1. rocks   10 years ago

              You say this as if you think her voters care about competency or issues. Her voters only care about identify politics and the glory of the clinton's.

              Just saw my parents for the first time in a year who are Hillary fans, the only thing they want is for their feudal house to win. Why? Because it is their side.

        2. Mickey Rat   10 years ago

          The difference being the college undergrad's proven competence?

        3. Pl?ya Manhattan.   10 years ago

          Never go full retard. And it you do, at least try not to stay there for months at a time.

          1. Bo Cara Esq.   10 years ago

            Look who's back. Wife and kids disappoint ya again?

            1. Pl?ya Manhattan.   10 years ago

              It's like you don't even try anymore.

        4. cfskyrim   10 years ago

          You speak of being a senator, secretary of state, and presidential candidate as if they are impressive achievements. You are apparently easily impressed.

          1. XM   10 years ago

            Didn't she resign as SOS after the Benghazi fiasco?

            She resigned, folks.

          2. MarkLastname   10 years ago

            "Here is a list of exclusive country clubs I've belonged to, so you know I'm qualified to run a country."

        5. Eggs Benedict Cumberbund   10 years ago

          Credentials mean very little. Results matter, point to significant results from the Snuke.

    2. Drake   10 years ago

      It's my FUCKING turn!

      http://www.thegatewaypundit.co.....of-my-way/

    3. Bo Cara Esq.   10 years ago

      Wrong party sarc.

    4. Dark Lord of the Cis   10 years ago

      Vagina?

      1. sarcasmic   10 years ago

        Why do you think it's her turn?

      2. Enjoy Every Sandwich   10 years ago

        Yeah, but only a leftward-slanted vagina.

        1. MarkLastname   10 years ago

          So, a Chinese vagina? No, wait, Japanese?

      3. Eggs Benedict Cumberbund   10 years ago

        Inside the Snizz

    5. Catatafish   10 years ago

      So many people on FB just saying "it's time to break the glass ceiling."

      *sigh*

      1. Rhino   10 years ago

        Nobody was saying that when Palin ran as VP.

      2. MarkLastname   10 years ago

        Two affirmative action presidents in a row!

      3. Win Bear   10 years ago

        Yes: let's hope Clinton breaks it while falling through it from her upper crust position.

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  2. Almanian!   10 years ago

    I'm confused by all this Hilldog posting. Isn't Rand Paul running for President?

    1. $park? the Swifty   10 years ago

      The reason writers are just a bunch of hipster lefty lapdogs. Don't plan on seeing anywhere near as many articles attacking Hillary as there were attacking Rand. They don't want to ruin their swanky DC party chances after all.

      John told me so it must be true.

      1. RBS   10 years ago

        I can't wait for John to accuse the entire reason staff of voting for Hillary.

        1. rocks   10 years ago

          Accuse or point out?

      2. Somalian Road Corporation   10 years ago

        Weigel'd again!

  3. Grand Moff Serious Man   10 years ago

    After eight years of Bush foreign policy, Hillary was instrumental in starting to restore America's standing in the world.

    Does anybody really, seriously believe this? Obama foreign policy has been lurching from one fiasco to another.

    Even former Republican Secretary of State Henry Kissinger said she "ran the State Department in the most effective way that I've ever seen."

    That's like getting an endorsement from Satan. Don't liberals hate Kissinger with the utmost intensity?

    She was a forceful champion for human rights, internet freedom, and rights and opportunities for women and girls, LGBT people and young people all around the globe.

    But had no problem taking money from countries where raped women are flogged, adulters stoned to death and gay people hanged.

    1. Sevo   10 years ago

      "Does anybody really, seriously believe this? Obama foreign policy has been lurching from one fiasco to another."
      Well, under Bush, they said nasty, insulting things about the US. Now they just laugh.

    2. Almanian!   10 years ago

      What difference, at this point, does it make?

      1. Puddin' Stick   10 years ago

        I hope someone uses this during the campaign.

        Clock shows 3 AM at the White House and the phone rings. President Clinton picks up the phone, listens for a while and then says "What difference, at this point, does it make?", hands up the phone and goes back to sleep.

    3. Scarecrow Repair   10 years ago

      Even former Republican Secretary of State Henry Kissinger said she "ran the State Department in the most effective way that I've ever seen."

      That's like getting an endorsement from Satan. Don't liberals hate Kissinger with the utmost intensity?

      That just shows her inclusivity, so Dems can pat themselves on the back for big tent tolerance.

      1. Sudden   10 years ago

        Effectively handing the Middle East to Islamists is still being effective I guess.

    4. Ken Shultz   10 years ago

      "Does anybody really, seriously believe this? Obama foreign policy has been lurching from one fiasco to another."

      Who am I supposed to believe, the elites at NPR and Salon or my own lying eyes?

    5. Sudden   10 years ago

      Does anybody really, seriously believe this?

      Some do, but far as I can tell most that do believe that are the kinds that don't follow foreign policy. I met up with an old college ex gf recently and she had worked on the 2008 Hillary campaign (LOL). The topic of Clinton came up and I asked her what accomplishments Hillary's had that made her so confident in her ability to be POTUS. She mentioned that she was Secretary of State. I went off about what an abysmal failure her tenure at state was, between Libya, Egypt, and Syria, Boko Haram and ISIS, etc. She didn't respond (like I said, she wasn't the type to follow foreign policy, this one is a single issue voter for abortion). But it was revealing enough of one of the things I find most disturbing: she thought being SoS was an accomplishment of itself without any consideration of Clinton's actual record in that job.

      1. Dweebston   10 years ago

        Well, sure. It's a super achievement, for a girl.

        Seriously though, didn't some cranky old racist once say something about tyranny and low expectations? Apparently it applies to gender, too.

      2. MarkLastname   10 years ago

        I actually marvel at leftists trying to defend the actual foreign policy and security policy of Obama and Clinton after complaining about Bush. You can almost sense that they actually get that they are basically defending Bush incarnated as a democrat, but even then, they only view reconciling contradictory positions as like some sort of weird, mysterious puzzle they just can't sort out, rather than evidence that one of those positions needs to be ditched.

        It's going to be even more fun to see left wing feminists defend Hillary's defense of a rapist. Suddenly the 'guilty until proven innocent' crowd will be talking the importance of due process, penitentiary reasoning, and the adversarial justice system.

    6. Win Bear   10 years ago

      Does anybody really, seriously believe this? Obama foreign policy has been lurching from one fiasco to another.

      To be fair, they are somewhat vague about what exactly she restored it to.

      That's like getting an endorsement from Satan. Don't liberals hate Kissinger with the utmost intensity?

      Doesn't everybody?

  4. Auric Demonocles   10 years ago

    What internet freedom is more sacred that the right to delete your emails?

  5. Charles Easterly   10 years ago

    "... and gay people hanged."

    Not necessarily!

  6. Coyote Blue   10 years ago

    She's got the lady bits.
    What more do you want to know?

    1. $park? the Swifty   10 years ago

      "Isn't it time for a woman to break the highest glass ceiling?"

      Yes, Hillary. What more reason do we need?

    2. Francisco d'Anconia   10 years ago

      She's no lady.

      1. sarcasmic   10 years ago

        Cue the Aerosmith.

        1. JWatts   10 years ago

          No, she's not that kind of Not-Lady either.

  7. Scarecrow Repair   10 years ago

    One of my quirks is always trying to imagine public figures as just people, as if they were neighbors, and what kind of neighbors they'd be. I never understood the idea that Bush 43 would have been great at a bbq (only as a laughingstock), but Bill Clinton probably would be fun, just for his great story telling style. Hillary, I think, would be a nifty weird aunt or grandma, the one you'd want to traipse around on Halloween with, or go to the zoo with.

    But as President? She'd be way over hey pay grade, and the mindset of that Halloween aunt means she'd be covering up even the slightest such indication, a paranoid secrecy freak of the worst kind, like the crazy aunt who never lets anyone into the attic or basement because they would see the piles of 20 year old newspapers and National Geographics.

    1. sarcasmic   10 years ago

      I used to work in Kennebunkport, where the Bush family owns a peninsula. While I wasn't there at the time, several times the family went to a bar and grill that was frequented by my coworkers. By all reports he (43) was a nice guy, at the end telling the kids "Come on, let's go back to Grandpa's (41) house."

      1. cfskyrim   10 years ago

        I'd hang out with Bush jr. He seems like the kinda guy that you could ride horses and shoot random shit with.

    2. Hyperion   10 years ago

      Hanging out with Bush and Clinton at backyard BBQ:

      Bush: "It's one of them Koreas that's causin all the trouble"

      Clinton: "You see that pig over there, I could totally eat that pig."

      1. Xeones   10 years ago

        Come on, Billy may be into fours, but he's smoother than THAT.

        1. Pl?ya Manhattan.   10 years ago

          He's under a microscope. He has to take what he can get.

      2. geo1113   10 years ago

        Clinton: "You see that pig over there. She is going to run for president."

        1. bvandyke   10 years ago

          ++++1 - best yet!

          1. bvandyke   10 years ago

            Wait, is there lipstick on that pig?

        2. Hyperion   10 years ago

          Nice!

    3. Xeones   10 years ago

      No way, dude. Hillary is the busybody neighbor who calls the city on you for letting a tree branch grow over her yard, and hands out toothbrushes at Halloween.

      1. Scarecrow Repair   10 years ago

        See, that's where I think the politics come into play. My amagination always is withotu any politics, in some kind of uber-free society where there is no government to sic on neighbors.

      2. Swiss Servator... Switzy!   10 years ago

        HOA busybody, indeed.

        1. JWatts   10 years ago

          At our last house we had a busybody who walked around with a clipboard, wrote stuff down about houses and submitted the list to the HOA. The HOA was elected and nobody was stupid enough to vote her in, but she took it upon herself to be the HOA police.

          She reported us repeatedly for grass too long (had been cut the previous week, but was in the shaggy stage) trash can visible from the front yard and most ridiculously for having more than one tree in the front yard. I had to look that one up, because I was convinced she made it up. However, she was correct it was actually listed in the HOA agreement. Of course, the builders had planted more than one tree in the front yard of almost every house with a long street line, so it was a completely stupid rule. And I just ignored the letter.

          This is Hillary Clinton.

          1. MarkLastname   10 years ago

            People like this are a reason I may just rent until I die.

            If anyone so much as complains to me about how long the grass is, old lady or no, I will promptly tell them to suck my dick and walk away.

      3. GILMORE   10 years ago

        (dramatic slow-clap)

  8. Sevo   10 years ago

    BTW, I assume everyone's getting the ads. Her campaign logo looks like a package delivery service, or maybe a moving company.

    1. aelhues   10 years ago

      SEP 11? Twin towers with direction for impact?

    2. Certified Public Asskicker   10 years ago

      Iowahawk:

      "Our country is controlled by the people who won 3rd grade poster contests."

    3. Rhino   10 years ago

      I thought her campaign logo was trying to send the message that she was a right wing neocon. Red arrow pointing to the right. Or is she trying to say that the republican right is the way forward? She should fire her marketing agent.

  9. Hyperion   10 years ago

    Hitlary stands for 2 things. Corruption and Cankles. America, if that is what you are looking for, I present to you: The Cankle Beast!

  10. Warty   10 years ago

    "Hillary 2016: It's time for a woman president! This one will do!"

    It could use some work

    1. cfskyrim   10 years ago

      No, no, no. It has to be a particular woman with a particular set of views. I know plenty of women who say that public office is no place for a woman and that it's a man's job. Those women are obviously not women though and should be fed to the sharks.

  11. Elizabeth Nolan Brown   10 years ago

    I just wanted to pop in and +1 Scott's alt text.

    1. Xeones   10 years ago

      ENB gets it!

      1. Certified Public Asskicker   10 years ago

        She needs to work on her own alt-text game.

    2. Thymirus   10 years ago

      Scott's mockery of low-functioning autism is despicable. Hillary deserves our respect, regardless of mental affliction.

    3. Sudden   10 years ago

      I dunno ENB, it seemed a bit microagressing to me

      1. Dweebston   10 years ago

        +1 I don't have time to educate you about your privileges, shitlord

    4. Auric Demonocles   10 years ago

      Is this like a victory?

  12. The Late P Brooks   10 years ago

    I'll take her seriously when she blows her brains out on the steps of the Capitol.

    "Save the Middle Class"? Hillary?

    Bah!

    1. Swiss Servator... Switzy!   10 years ago

      Mr. B, long time no see.

      1. Aloysious   10 years ago

        He's late. Again.

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  14. creech   10 years ago

    When the Champion came out yesterday, the local tv news media just had to troll three or four women on the street for their reaction. Drooling idiots all talked about her "great" success as SOS and "let's see what a woman can do in the White House." Why don't they ever manage to find someone who loathes the woman's policies and will say so? [Cutting room floor or what?]

    1. cfskyrim   10 years ago

      I've tried to wrap my head around the, "Let's see what a woman can do" thing. If men and women are completely equal and just have different body parts, then a woman would do exactly the same thing as all of the men.

      Thus it would be no different to have a man or a woman and one could make the argument, "We need to keep electing men out of tradition" and their argument would be just as valid as, "let's see what a woman can do."

      If you don't believe this, then you must admit that men and women are different and have different viewpoints on things and your feminist ground starts crumbling beneath your feet.

      1. Scruffy Nerfherder   10 years ago

        They don't do cognitive dissonance

      2. Rhino   10 years ago

        Feminists do believe that men and women are different when it suits them. I mean, you can't blame the Patriarchy for your problems if men are the same as women. If you did, then a Matriarchy would be just as bad for you. You also can't argue that masculinity is toxic and also that women and men are the same.

        What they are really saying when they say, "Let's see what a woman can do" is that women would probably make better Presidents than men, just because of their gender. Pretty sexist really.

      3. Rhino   10 years ago

        Feminists do believe that men and women are different when it suits them. I mean, you can't blame the Patriarchy for your problems if men are the same as women. If you did, then a Matriarchy would be just as bad for you. You also can't argue that masculinity is toxic and also that women and men are the same.

        What they are really saying when they say, "Let's see what a woman can do" is that women would probably make better Presidents than men, just because of their gender. Pretty sexist really.

      4. MarkLastname   10 years ago

        Feminists don't believe men and women are equal though, they believe women re superior, morally and intellectually. It's easy to test. Every feminist says she thinks men and women are equal, as an abstract proposition. But she also believes women are kinder, gentler, more sensitive, more intuitive, and better at a whole bunch of things than men. There is nothing, however, that men are better at than woman (except maybe menial physical labor, hardly a prize); that's chauvinism.

        So it all makes sense if you forget the feminist sloganeering and just regard their actual specific beliefs. They're like an old southern white racist who trying in vain to defend his outmoded views at a northern cocktail party. "Oh, I do believe black people are equal to white people! I just also think they're dumber, more animalistic, and less trustworthy." The abstract declaration of support for 'equality' in both his case and the feminist's is just the facade of their nuanced bigotry.

  15. This Is My Last Post   10 years ago

    Each POTUS seems to be worse than the previous one. This has been the case at least since 1974.

    I must say, though, I do like this street art:

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/new.....media.html

    1. R C Dean   10 years ago

      Nixon worse than LBJ? Debatable.

      Ford worse than Nixon? Also debatable.

      Reagan worse than Carter? I just don't see it.

      1. This Is My Last Post   10 years ago

        I did say "at least since 1974".

      2. This Is My Last Post   10 years ago

        As far as Reagan vs. Carter yes, I think he was. I did not always think so but look at some of the things that Carter actually did. He privatized the airlines, he closed down military bases in the Philippine Islands, and he returned the Panama Canal back to Panama. Reagan, although initially cutting taxes, later increased them. He also raised the debt limit. Here is more about Ronald Reagan:

        http://mises.org/library/myths-reaganomics

        1. notJoe   10 years ago

          "Mr. Gorbachev, open this gate. Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall!" The single ballsiest act by any president of the 20th century.

          Combined with what he did at Reykjavik (both acts done against the advice of his milquetoast inner circle) and Reagan's forgiven for everything else. Best president evar. (Of course, the bar for that award's pretty low.)

          1. notJoe   10 years ago

            Err...I didn't actually mean to type Best president evar. "Best 20th century president evar."

        2. JWatts   10 years ago

          "He privatized the airlines"

          Say what? The airlines were never government run in the US. I'm guessing you meant he signed the Airline Deregulation Act.

          However, the actual push to deregulate the Airlines came from the Ford administration.

          " While this initiative was in process in the Gerald Ford administration, the United States Senate Judiciary Committee, which had jurisdiction over antitrust law, began hearings on airline deregulation in 1975. Senator Ted Kennedy took the lead in these hearings."

          And who can forgive a man who attempted to force the entire nation to drive 55 mph?

          Carter also infamously tried to pass universal national health insurance 15 years before the Clinton's had their go at it.

          He also proposed mandatory hospital price controls which was so out of touch that even a Congress under complete Democratic control reject it.

          He actually did get oil and natural gas price controls enacted.

          And who can forget him asking the nation to turn off all of their Christmas tree lights? And he did turn off all of them under his control for 1979 and 1980.

          The Carter administration was one long and virtually complete CF.

          1. Robert   10 years ago

            He signed Selective Service registr'n.

    2. MarkLastname   10 years ago

      I say we just leave the office vacant for a few terms.

  16. Grand Moff Serious Man   10 years ago

    One thing I absolutely do not understand is why they don't want her debating someone, anyone in the Democratic primaries. Well okay, I know why, it's because she's a decrepit gaffe machine that can't communicate in an unscripted situation.

    But still, you'd think she'd want to practice that during the primaries instead of fucking up during the general election debates against the Republican nominee who by then will have had a ton of debating experience.

    1. This Is My Last Post   10 years ago

      Part of what happens though, is that a statement that would play well to the Democratic party base, well enough to get a strong plurality at least of registered Democrats, is often a statement that would turn off a majority of registered voters in the general election.

      This happens in Republican primaries too. A Republican could call for the institution of theocracy and have a strong winning plurality but it would turn off a majority of voters in the general election.

      1. Eggs Benedict Cumberbund   10 years ago

        A Republican could call for the institution of theocracy and have a strong winning plurality but it would turn off a majority of voters in the general election.

        That's bullshit.

      2. Win Bear   10 years ago

        A Republican could call for the institution of theocracy and have a strong winning plurality but it would turn off a majority of voters in the general election.

        Christian conservatives make up at most a quarter of Republicans, and they are disappearing fast.

    2. sarcasmic   10 years ago

      Why do you think she'd debate the Republican nominee? Whoever it is will be beneath her. She's not going to stoop to that.

      1. Sudden   10 years ago

        I seriously wouldn't be the slightest bit surprised if she decided to opt out of general election debate.

        1. Not a Libertarian   10 years ago

          Well actually holding a 2016 election is sexist on its face

      2. MarkLastname   10 years ago

        In the words of Jessica Valenti, there is no debate. They've already won the debate. So stop calling for a debate and just shut up and live with it.

        1. Win Bear   10 years ago

          What difference, at this point, would a debate make?

    3. RBS   10 years ago

      Debates? Everything will either be a snapchat or an AMA.

    4. Enjoy Every Sandwich   10 years ago

      I'm guessing that she won't debate the GOP nominee unless the debate is seriously rigged in her favor, e.g. moderated by Rachel Maddow, etc.

      1. JWatts   10 years ago

        Oh, I'm sure Candy Crowley from CNN wouldn't hesitate to interject herself into the debate to help Hillary Clinton out.

  17. Bo Cara Esq.   10 years ago

    "What does Hillary Clinton stand for? Getting elected President, apparently."

    Well, at least she's stuck with her core values all this time.

    1. Not a Libertarian   10 years ago

      These "set" of values are what her core voters want as well.

  18. Thymirus   10 years ago

    The fantastically retarded bullshit on her website is gut-wrenching. She can take her totalitarian ass, eat shit, and kill herself. The day she wins the Presidency is the day I die of alcohol poisoning.

    1. Bo Cara Esq.   10 years ago

      Juvenile, Gamergate, Psychopath, or all three?

      1. R C Dean   10 years ago

        Bo, I would say juvenile, and not a psychopath, but some kind of social disorder.

        Oh, you meant Thymirus? No idea.

        1. Pl?ya Manhattan.   10 years ago

          Bo's bottoming for Hillary.

          1. MarkLastname   10 years ago

            Wait, is that serious? They say it's not satire, but they are saying that satirically, right? This can't be serious.

  19. John C. Randolph   10 years ago

    Even former Republican Secretary of State Henry Kissinger said she "ran the State Department in the most effective way that I've ever seen."

    My dad was a foreign service officer. He wasn't too impressed with Kissinger. I asked him once who the best Secretary of State was during his career, and he told me that Ed Muskie was the one who actually tried to do his job and run the department.

    -jcr

    1. Scruffy Nerfherder   10 years ago

      Kissinger was a megalomaniac who was more interested in asserting his dominance over underlings than managing them. It makes sense that he would appreciate Clinton's methods.

  20. The Late P Brooks   10 years ago

    Caption:
    "Do you know who sells a nice chianti, in this town?"

    1. Swiss Servator... Switzy!   10 years ago

      +1 fava bean

  21. Ken Shultz   10 years ago

    Meanwhile, progressives keep trying to draft other candidates from "Wampum" Warren on down.

    I think it's slowly dawning on the Democrats that they're really gonna bet it all on Hillary.

    1. Sudden   10 years ago

      Bill Maher offered Liz Warren a million dollars on his show this weekend. She said she isn't running.

      I still don't believe her.

      1. cfskyrim   10 years ago

        If Maher endorses something, you know to run the other way as fast as you fucking can.

      2. MarkLastname   10 years ago

        I'm not sure what to make of Warren. It's her time. Clinton had her chance, by right, she should have bowed out like Romney, and the Democrats should be groaning just as loudly as Republicans would be if Romney hadn't bowed out. I've also no doubt that Warren wants to foist her ideology on everyone, and for that reason should want the white house even more than Hillary because Hillary is really just a careerist. And in 2024 Warren will be decidedly too old.

        So, does Warren actually believe in that fucked up idea of a pecking order, or the sisterhood, and that it really is 'Hillary's turn?' Or perhaps she thinks Hillary has a better shot and so she's taking a fall to keep a Republican out of the white house? Or maybe it's settled that Hillary won't run for a second term, and the deal is Warren gets set up to run in 2020 (and will still be older than any president in history at that point)?

        I still don't think she'll enter though. If she intended to, she would have just stayed quiet, and certainly wouldn't have definitively ruled it out; that serves no purpose, just makes her look like a liar. If she does go back on her word, either she has a moron for a strategist or she is actually genuinely undecided about whether she wants to be president.

    2. Puddin' Stick   10 years ago

      Don't worry, when it's clear that Clinton is the nominee, the progessives will fall into line.

      1. Not a Libertarian   10 years ago

        I don't understand why this is not obvious to those people who somehow believe that Senator Clinton will not be the nominee.

        These is no-one who can "saves us" from her now.

        1. Puddin' Stick   10 years ago

          How are they going to vote for, the Republican nominee? After all the hatred they heap on the Republican Party? They party they accusing of hating everyone not rich, white, male, Germanic, and Protestant?

          Rand Paul does look good to some leftists, though...

          1. cfskyrim   10 years ago

            I love it when progressives accuse their enemies of being statists, tyrants, and so forth. I know the Repubs are pretty damn bad but nothing can compare to the gov't worshiping prowess of a worthless, piece of shit progressive.

            I can not state how fucking bad I hate progressives. I really don't even consider them human more like a sub species that should be shunned and hated into oblivion.

            1. Weygand   10 years ago

              Goodthink!

  22. HazelMeade   10 years ago

    And when President Obama asked Hillary to serve as his secretary of state, she put aside their hard-fought campaign and answered the call to public service once again.

    I like how she emphasizes how noble she is for not holding it against Obama that he beat her in the primary. Because I'm sure that was really really hard for her to swallow.

    1. Auric Demonocles   10 years ago

      And, of course, she took the SoS job just to serve the public. No other motivations, surely.

      1. HazelMeade   10 years ago

        I know, right? Everyone knows Hillary has always wanted to retire to a quiet private life. She only took the job out of a sense lf self-less duty, and not because it would look good on her resume, or anything.

    2. This Is My Last Post   10 years ago

      Will Clinton, who represents the past and is secretive, and feels entitled, appoint Obama as her SOS?

      1. HazelMeade   10 years ago

        They do say to keep your enemies close.

      2. R C Dean   10 years ago

        UN Ambassador.

      3. Not a Libertarian   10 years ago

        Why not to the Supreme Court?

        1. JWatts   10 years ago

          Winner!

          1. MarkLastname   10 years ago

            Wouldn't surprise me at all. Obama may be the first president in recent memory to actually not want to retire after leaving office. I don't know if he'll be willing to stay away from power after having been in the middle of it for 8 years.

  23. The Late P Brooks   10 years ago

    Because I'm sure that was really really hard for her to swallow.

    [insert "swallower" joke]

  24. Bo Cara Esq.   10 years ago

    If you were her advisor, who would you recommend for her VP choice?

    1. Scruffy Nerfherder   10 years ago

      Biden. Keep the fun going.

      1. Bo Cara Esq.   10 years ago

        If he isn't too tainted by the ongoing scandal with the NY legislature I'd say Cuomo, but other than that I'm not sure.

        1. Puddin' Stick   10 years ago

          Clinton can't pick Cuomo as her running mate ? he's from the same state.

          Unless she changes her registration back to Arkansas.

          1. Statutory Ape   10 years ago

            I will bet money she doesn't top 40% of the vote in Arkansas.

    2. sarcasmic   10 years ago

      If I was her adviser I'd recommend she do the honorable thing: seppuku.

      1. sarcasmic   10 years ago

        If I was your adviser I'd give the same advice.

        1. Bo Cara Esq.   10 years ago

          Well, that's because you're a psychopath sarc.

          1. sarcasmic   10 years ago

            Still not getting it.

            1. Bo Cara Esq.   10 years ago

              Psychopaths joke about people dying sarc. And people who are serious about are even worse psychos.

              1. UnCivilServant   10 years ago

                No, Bo, gallows humor and general jokes about death are common among normal people.

                1. Bo Cara Esq.   10 years ago

                  Maybe in your circles.

                  1. JPyrate   10 years ago

                    Hey Bo I found I great place for you to hang out. =)

                    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdoGVgj1MtY

                2. Francisco d'Anconia   10 years ago

                  Of course, Bo would have no concept of normal people. Normal people are self-aware.

                  1. sarcasmic   10 years ago

                    Normal people are self-aware.

                    I don't know about that. I'm starting to think self-awareness is the exception, not the rule.

                    Oh, and about that bet. I don't do PM links because I'm driving home from work when they're posted.

                    1. Francisco d'Anconia   10 years ago

                      Then we're at an impasse. Suggestions?

                    2. sarcasmic   10 years ago

                      Suggestions?

                      Not at the moment. But we've got plenty of time to figure it out. Except by then I'll have forgotten what the bet was about.

                    3. cfskyrim   10 years ago

                      The only thing to do in a Mexican standoff is start shooting and hope for the best.

              2. sarcasmic   10 years ago

                Whatever made you think I was joking?

                1. cfskyrim   10 years ago

                  I agree with you. I think all leftist pieces of shit should get the wild hog treatment if they are unable to honorably rid us of themselves.

                  1. Bo Cara Esq.   10 years ago

                    There's a culture of psychopaths here, that's for sure.

                    1. Francisco d'Anconia   10 years ago

                      And sniveling little momma's boy pussies.

                      Oh, wait...I was wrong...there's just one.

                    2. sarcasmic   10 years ago

                      And sniveling little momma's boy pussies.

                      His mommy told him that the reason nobody likes him is that they're jealous of his overwhelming intelligence and likeability.

                    3. cfskyrim   10 years ago

                      Don't forget Tony.

                    4. MarkLastname   10 years ago

                      Is psychopath culture like rape culture? Are either similar to yoghurt culture?

          2. MarkLastname   10 years ago

            A gamergater too I hear.

        2. Certified Public Asskicker   10 years ago

          *Puts down monocle, tips top hat to sarcasmic*

      2. cfskyrim   10 years ago

        If she were man enough to do it, she would gain an ounce of honor, and a shred of my respect.

        1. sarcasmic   10 years ago

          She's in it for power, not respect.

          1. cfskyrim   10 years ago

            I was speaking of seppuku

    3. UnCivilServant   10 years ago

      Zombie Josef Stalin.

    4. HazelMeade   10 years ago

      Seriously? Warren.

      Unseriously.... a young telegenic black man.

      1. Bo Cara Esq.   10 years ago

        I don't think you go with two women, or even a minority man. She fulfills the diversity quota all by herself, you go safe for VP, a white man. And Cuomo is the whitest of men.

        1. UnCivilServant   10 years ago

          Cuomo is also a highly toxic spear counterpart to the Hillary archetype. You can't put two people like that on the same ticket and not have them brutally murdering each other.

          1. Rebel Scum   10 years ago

            You can't put two people like that on the same ticket and not have them brutally murdering each other.

            This could be a feature, not a bug.

        2. cfskyrim   10 years ago

          Or you know, you could do the right thing and run people that are the best for the job. That actually have values, morals, and principles. People that actually love liberty and will get the fuck out of the way, and let the American people live in peace and prosper.

          Who gives a fuck what the color of their damn skin is or what genitalia they have.

        3. MarkLastname   10 years ago

          How do you figure? There is frankly no worse choice than a white man because white men are the least identity politics-oriented demographic. May be hard for delusional progressives to believe, but almost no white men aren't inclined to vote for a white man because he's a white man the same way ethnic minorities or a good portion of women apparently will vote based on demographics. Hence why white male conservatives (including my father) will practically beg for a black Republican to run in order to win a few more votes and have a better chance of victory.

          Contrary to SJW bullshit, he predominance of white males in politics is due to them being wealthier and better educated (the white part) and more risk-seeking and driven by attainment of power as a form of social status (the male part), not because of rampant racism or sexism among voters in white males' favor.

          Nominating another woman would at worst be redundant, and it would behoove her to get a latino/latina to cast a broader identity politics net.

    5. R C Dean   10 years ago

      Warren.

      An all-estrogen (supplement) ticket.

    6. Not a Libertarian   10 years ago

      Governor Deval Patrick.

  25. Enough About Palin   10 years ago

    Isn't it risky driving from the east coast to Iowa in a van? Seriously.

  26. All-Seeing Monocle   10 years ago

    Why run on the issues at all? Wasn't the lesson everyone learned from the '08 campaign to finally give up on talking policy at all and focus 100% on brand messaging? A policy position is something you might actually get pinned down on. A brand is something that you can just keep spinning.

    She's got the electrolytes the electorate craves.

    1. sarcasmic   10 years ago

      Yup.

  27. The Late P Brooks   10 years ago

    Krugabe pleads for sanity:

    As you can probably tell, I'm dreading the next 18 months, which will be full of sound bites and fury, signifying nothing. O.K., I guess we might learn a few things ? Where will Ms. Clinton come out on trade agreements like the Trans-Pacific Partnership? How much influence will Republican Fed-bashers exert? ? but the differences between the parties are so clear and dramatic that it's hard to see how anyone who has been paying attention could be undecided even now, or be induced to change his or her mind between now and the election.

    One thing is for sure: American voters will be getting a real choice. May the best party win.

    Stick you fingers in your ears, and don't listen to what anybody says. Vote for the Democrat, or we'll all die!!!!!

    1. MarkLastname   10 years ago

      I'm not sure if Krugman is finally going senile or has just gotten so arrogant and complacent it's turned him into an intellectual sloth. He just regurgitates five or six well-refuted and quite tired talking points ad to why we should vote for a brain-damaged ferret if it should happen to win the Dem nomination.

      It's sad really. Krugtard use to at least originate his own brand of lunacy, but now he's just coughing up whatever trickles into his ears it seems.

  28. Puddin' Stick   10 years ago

    I see Clinton has failed to take a stand on gay rights.

  29. Anonymous Coward   10 years ago

    Both Ted Cruz and Rand Paul have "issues" sections on their campaign sites.

    It is sexist and rapey to expect the first woman President to actually state her position on political issues.

    Is that what you are, Shackford? A rapey sexist?

    1. Rhino   10 years ago

      Why should she enact the labor of laying out her stances on the issues for you, oppressive, shit lord, misogynist?

  30. The Late P Brooks   10 years ago

    More Krugabe:

    Any Democrat would retain the tax hikes on high-income Americans that went into effect in 2013, and possibly seek more. Any Republican would try to cut taxes on the wealthy ? House Republicans plan to vote next week to repeal the estate tax ? while slashing programs that aid low-income families.

    Any Democrat would try to preserve the 2010 financial reform, which has recently been looking much more effective than critics suggested. Any Republican would seek to roll it back, eliminating both consumer protection and the extra regulation applied to large, "systemically important" financial institutions.

    If the Republicans win, the rest of the world should just preemptively declare war on America, to stop the Reign of Terror which surely will ensue.

    1. sarcasmic   10 years ago

      Allowing people to keep their own money and act without asking permission and obeying orders?

      Oh, the horror!

    2. Rhino   10 years ago

      I still hear people spout off the myth that the great recession was caused by deregulation.

    3. DenverJay   10 years ago

      Paul Krugman should never be read by anybody, ever.
      Why would you do that to yourself, Brooks?

    4. Win Bear   10 years ago

      If the Republicans win, the rest of the world should just preemptively declare war on America,

      Actually, cutting welfare and cutting taxes is what much of the rest of the world has been doing. EU members cannot run up the kind of debt and deficits that the US is running up.

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  32. The Late P Brooks   10 years ago

    I remain at large.

  33. Ranter   10 years ago

    In other words: She's Mitt Romney...with a vagina.

  34. Mike Laursen   10 years ago

    A Kissinger endorsement you say? How can I not be won over.

    1. UnCivilServant   10 years ago

      I keep getting amazed every time I hear he's not actually dead.

      1. DenverJay   10 years ago

        He is, has been for like 20 yrs. But he's not going to let facts stop him now any more than he ever has.

  35. Rebel Scum   10 years ago

    Is this a warning sign that Clinton's campaign is going to be all about identities rather than issues?

    Yes. It's all she has. And I am pessimistic enough to believe it may work.

  36. Rhino   10 years ago

    It's a pretty common political strategy to be a vague as you can. For example, the campaign slogan, "Change you can believe in."

    Keep it vague and let the voters fill in the empty space with their own ideas of what it means to be in favor of children and families. This way you can be all things to all people. And in a party made up of a hog pog of ideologies that don't all always agree with each other, that vagueness is essential at least starting out. Once you get past the primary and you're the only choice against a Republican opponent that you know that nobody in your base would ever vote for, then you can start getting a little more specific to try to win the middle.

  37. Libertarius   10 years ago

    I just don't see her winning the office. Once you get past the media parade and the softball questions and the debates obviously rigged in her favor, down to the nitty gritty, who the hell is actually going to show up and vote for her?

    Obozo was elected with historic black turnouts in both years. How many blacks will show up to vote for an old white hag? None.

    Women? The college feminist leftoid idiots, yes. Thankfully they are marginal.

    Beta leftoid pajama boys like Tony will be her biggest voting bloc. Thankfully they are also marginal.

    1. XM   10 years ago

      Lots of black people love the Clinton brand. They like the current president, even though black unemployment under his watch has been steadily high.

      Obama did receive less votes in 2012 than he did in 2008. But it'll be an uphill battle for any GOP nominee.

      It'll be interesting just how far left she'll go. Wall Street loves her, but that's not going to play well with the leftist crowd. And some in the financial industry is getting tired of attacks from the people gets money from big banks.

  38. JFree   10 years ago

    I for one really look forward to two years of pondering the candidates, pondering the issues, pondering the pandering. I am so glad I live in a country where I am allowed to vote. Lots of countries that we bomb don't allow people to vote. I especially like that we get to choose which dynastic succession we want. How many monarchies get to elect their monarch? Not many for sure ya betcha.

    USA! USA! USA! USA!

    1. DenverJay   10 years ago

      Don't blame me, I voted for Kronos

    2. Win Bear   10 years ago

      If you can be this sarcastic about it, you obviously haven't experienced the alternatives, like the joke that is European democracy.

  39. Robert   10 years ago

    Look at her campaign vid. It's not even about her! She's snuck in as a presidential candidate toward the end after we hear about all these interesting people & their plans. It's like she doesn't even want to campaign at all. Shortly after another serious contender gets in, she's going to duck out. Only she won't have the excuse this time that she really only wanted 1 term, because campaigns don't have terms.

    1. Robert   10 years ago

      Seriously, when I clicked on it here I thought as I watched the 1st min. that, oh we 1st have to sit thru an ad for something else, as is frequently the case now on YouTube. After the 1st min. I thought those interesting people would each say something like, "And that's why I'm using Right Guard."

      1. Win Bear   10 years ago

        I had the same reaction. Some ad for a household product before the campaign vid, right?

  40. Derp-o-Matic 5000   10 years ago

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