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  1. With Greece on the verge of defaulting on its debts, the European Central Bank has offered to loan the country’s banks more money.

    No, dig up!

    1. Ciao!

      Or Hello.

      Your choice.

    2. I wish I had a credit card like that.

      You borrowed too much? Can’t repay it? Sure! We’ll lend you more money!

      You can pay us back in Toilet Paper Currency after you’ve wiped your a$$ with it!

      1. Where does one get this toilet paper currency?

        /Venezuela

        1. Reason commenters are the BEST!

      2. “Progressive” economics at its best! How else will we create the socialist workers’ utopia?

    3. I remember a cartoon on suck.com (yes that far back). It had Donald Trump advising someone about finances. They guy said his problem was he had too much debt. But Trump’s response was that the guy had too little debt. With more debt, people will worry about you going bankrupt and will keep loaning you money to keep that from happening. Wish I could find that.

      1. If you owe the bank $10K that you can’t pay back, you have a problem.

        If you owe the bank $10M that you can’t pay back, the bank has a problem.

        /The Trump Correlary

        1. And if you owe the bank $1T, you’re Greece!

    4. I’ve long advocated the restoration of the Ottoman Empire to settle the Middle Eastern question, but now I will go further: Restore the empire and let it have Greece back as well.

      1. The term “Ottoman Empire” has always been synonymous with “sound financial management!”

        1. Oh, and there’s one condition: They have to call Istanbul Constantinople.

          1. Added benefit: restored Ottoman Empire would occupy a lot of Putin’s attention.

            1. Who are you that is so wise in the way of international politics?

              1. Just call me Suleiman…

                Not so wise: just thinking of historical precedents. The Ottomans & Russians beat the hell out of each other for about300 years. I would imagine a resurgent Ottoman Empire would capture Putin’s attention.

                1. Warm water port for the win!

            2. Added benefit: restored Ottoman Empire would occupy a lot of Putin’s attention.

              And just when he thought it was safe to put his feet up…

          2. It’s been a long time gone, Constantinople…

          3. Oh, and there’s one condition: They have to call Istanbul Constantinople.

            Why they changed it, I can’t say.

      2. Speaking as one who has many Armenian and Kurdish friends, fuck that noise.

        -jcr

    5. Fuck you, cut spending.

  2. 13 Foreign Policy Questions For Hillary Clinton

    4) Do you agree with President Obama that climate change is a greater threat than ISIS, which is currently beheading Christians, crucifying children, and burning people alive?

    1. Climate Change will be burning people alive once it stops burying them in snow.

      1. Climate Change will bury people in burning snow.

        Climate Change can do everything.

        1. Climate Change built the pyramids.

          1. Now that’s CLimate Change we can believe in.

          2. I’m not saying it was climate change…but it was climate change.

        2. Chuck Norris toasts his bread and cools his beer with climate change.

    2. Global warming will cause us all to burn alive, y’know!

    3. 4) Do you agree with the people who think our biggest threat is getting hit by lightning, or with the people who think we should be most worried about wild dingoes? Please keep in mind that a dingo has eaten my baby.

    4. And if this is true they are also harvesting organs. This is some Nazi level shit right here. That is not a Godwin.

      http://hotair.com/archives/201…..rgans-now/

      1. Is it racist if I take anything from Hot Air with a grain of salt?

        1. No. And their source is the Iraqi Ambassador so there is plenty of room for doubt.

          1. Accusing Israelis of organ stealing is one of the modern forms of the blood libel. The Iraqi Ambassador is just transferring the usual conspiracy theories to their newest enemy.

              1. The Gulf Arabs are a strange lot. They clearly hold black people in lower regard (unless they come from the US) than all but maybe Indians and Pakistanis, but in the Hooker Hierarchy, Ethiopian and Sudanese are the most prized and most expensive.

        2. Having read the post, no, not racist. It is Hot Air taking a report that the UN has not seen any proof of organ harvesting as proof that they are harvesting organs.

  3. Hillary Clinton and Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) held a closed door meeting…

    * jacks furiously *

    1. paging teenage girl

    2. Paging SugarFree!

      1. “So, you’d like my support?” said Elizabeth. “First, get on your knees.” She lifted her skirt and revealed multiple piercings and her shaved….

        1. Jesus Papaya.

          You forgot the little Gremlin-goiter sticking out…

          1. I thought it was gonna be Kuato.

        2. Must ALL of Reason be labeled “NSFW”?

        3. How about a goddamn trigger warning?!

    3. I will not be in my bunk. In fact, I may never need my bunk again.

    4. paging Barfman!

    5. Hillary Clinton and Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) held a closed door meeting…

      A pair of ancient nannycrats warily sniffing each other out, like dogs meeting in the park.

      Bubba definitely wasn’t around, not his natural habitat.

      1. like dogs meeting in the park.

        Dogs being the operative term here.

        1. Really? I was thinking something more like this

          1. Messiah complex vs. a sociopath was what I was going for.

            1. Ooh, nice subtext.

              I was thinking “toothless old people bitchslapping each other”

    6. Run, Liz, Run! You’ve got the run for the office to get the job done!

  4. The beltway media notices, at long last, that Vice President Joe Biden may be a little…off.

    It’s up to the women he’s molesting to decide if the molestation is unwanted, and then decide to fire a shotgun off over his head to scare him off.

    1. C’mon. The dude is creepier than a panel van with cardboard covered windows and a “Free Candy” sign hand-lettered on the side cruising an elementary school.

      1. HEY!

        1. My son has the soul of a fat kid. I’m already worried that he would totally be lured with candy and he’s only been walking for a month.

          1. My kids would get in the car with anyone that’s not me.

    2. Has he shot a hunting buddy in the face while drunk?

        1. Is this gonna turn into some kind of measuring contest?

      1. Do you not support shooting lawyers in the face with birdshot and then making them apologize for getting in the way?

        I have little love for Cheney, but if the guy didn’t want to get shot in the face, he shouldn’t have become a lawyer.

        1. This is the best answer to that I’ve ever seen.

      2. HAHAHAHA! Because everybody here supported that jackass! You’ve got us there, fuckface!

    3. The beltway media notices, at long last, that Vice President Joe Biden may be a little…off.

      Nothing micro about that aggression.

    4. I guess that means he might be seen as a threat to Hillary’s inevitability.

  5. New Jersey public officials at the trough.

    New Jersey’s $100K Club of retired public officials has more than doubled in the past four years, according to a New Jersey Watchdog analysis of state Treasury pension data.

    As 2014 ended, 1,988 retirees were collecting state pensions in excess of $100,000 a year ? the elite “1-percenters” among New Jersey’s 285,000 retirees. (Click here for the list) That number has grown quickly since 2010 when the count was 971.

    1. THEY EARNED IT!

      1. That’s why they don’t want the proles to have guns.

    2. Come on, did you really think that anything was going to contract under Chris Christie?

      1. I think anything you put under Christie would be forced to contract…well, maybe not liquids, since they don’t compress well.

  6. Hillary Clinton and Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) held a closed door meeting in a sign that the leading war party contender for the donkey party’s presidential nomination seeks support from the party’s corporatist wing

    Fixed it for you.

    1. On a serious note, I think she may be trying to get Warren as a VP candidate.

      1) As LBJ said, it’s best to have your enemies in your tent pi$$ing out than outside your tent pi$$ing in.
      2) A Female/female ticket will get a lot of illogical buffoons to vote for them.

      1. Seriously? I can’t see that as a plus. It just doubles down on the feminist/affirmative action angle.

      2. 1) As LBJ said, it’s best to have your enemies in your tent pi$$ing out than outside your tent pi$$ing in.
        2) A Female/female ticket will get a lot of illogical buffoons to vote for them.

        Keeping enemies close might be one thing, but on point #2 Clinton will lose more votes than she gets anointing the socialist squaw.

        Has anyone else noticed the performances from Taxachussettans on a Presidential ticket since Kennedy? God they’re have been a lot, even a Republican in the bunch, and they are the kiss of death.

        1. Massachusetts is really governed by a pretty corrupt machine. The members of the machine have no interest in leaving the trough that is Boston.

          They also tend to stick to jobs where the honest graft is not flagrant and steady.

          Thus they are really not interested in the sort of statewide offices that are a springboard to DC.

          The people who do have the ambitions for national office have to get the machine’s support to win consistently. The machine doesn’t want intelligent, capable people who get things done occupying those seats because the ambitious people might upset the flow of honest graft.

          So the machine promotes either the corruptible (Warren) or the idiots (Coakely) for those roles.

          Thus the national politicians hailing from the commonwealth tend to be milquetoasts whom the machine thinks are safely not a threat to rock the boat.

          That’s my personal take, anyway.

      3. “a lot of illogical buffoons ”

        I smell a landslide! Once you lock up the illogical buffoon vote, you’re coasting to electoral victory.

    2. Which is which?

  7. The University of Pennsylvania’s new sexual assault policies took a beating from law professors concerned about the absence of any pretense of due process.

    Due Process = Jezebel Shrieking “Witch!” “Rapist!” until they get what they want.

    1. “Can we just put a fig peaf over that penis?”

    2. They don’t have police in Philly?

  8. “The federal government considers extending the deadline for Obamacare enollment, ”

    How about following the law?

    1. How about repealing it?

      Yeah, I know, fat chance.

      1. I reiterate my call for the Republicans to tie implementation of the ACO provisions to two successful consecutive enrollment periods.

  9. The more I hear about Jeb Bush’s campaign, the more I think it is going to be a comic train wreck.

    1. The Rick Perry of this election cycle.

      1. The Rick Perry of this election cycle.

        I don’t know about that.

        Jeb is the Team choice; so to defeat Jeb, one must defeat the Team. And the Republicans are a tougher Team to beat – at least internally – than Donk teams, which seems fleeting and vacuous as their ideology.

        For instance, note how the Donks abandoned Hillary in 2008, and the obvious unspoken Donk want to dump her again this cycle already for the Squaw.

        Contrast that with Republican Team efforts; quashing McCain in 2000, and carrying Romney to oblivion in 2012.

        1. Romney only won because every other viable candidate self destructed. I can’t see that happening this year.

          And the whole “you have to vote for someone we say is electable” took a bit of a beating the last two elections.

          1. Your points are true, however McCain’s 2000 ‘maverick’ shtick was basically what Obama did in 2008; the difference being Team Bush in 2000 had peeps like Karl Rove working for him, and Team Hillary had the likes of Mark Penn working for her.

            The two sharps who managed the Obama sock puppet – Axelrod and Plouffe – don’t work for Clintonia, or really any other Democrat. Just like OFA and Obama’s staff, they are fixtures of him, not the Democrats – who themselves seem to rent Obama’s loyalty as a transient figure more than integrate him in their own institutions for the long-haul (like the Clintons and their people).

            Instead, its the same hapless ‘consultant’ faces – clowns like Chris Lehane or Howard Wolfson – that keep showing up in different Donk campaigns; there is much more Team loyalty (not to mention competence) in Republican circles I think.

            And they work for Jeb this cycle.

        2. I’m wondering if Team Blue sees Hillary the way Team Red saw Dole – they know they’re going to get clocked in 2016 after the Lightworker’s promises fail to produce results, so they send in Hillary to go through the motions of running for office.

          1. That’s absolutely part of it. The writing is on the wall, and it would take a really major sea change for the GOP nominee to lose, I think. Not that the GOP won’t try to alienate people, because it will.

            1. This is exactly why they’ll try to nominate some social conservative weirdo who normally wouldn’t stand a chance.

              1. They’ll try, but I don’t think the appetite for such a candidate is there this time.

  10. The University of Pennsylvania’s new sexual assault policies took a beating from law professors

    Did the professors go home safe to their families, though? Because that’s what’s important.

  11. Indo-Israel defence ties ‘out of closet’ now: Israeli minister

    It has been India’s policy for long to keep the bilateral military ties under wraps due to international and domestic political sensitivities even though Israel is among one of the top defence suppliers to India.

    international political sensitivities = portraying of India as an Israeli ally by Pakistan, making it easier to recruit men for Jihad
    domestic political sensitivities = large muslim population which may disapprove

    Doesn’t Israel already have ties and some level of military and intelligence coordination with mostly-muslim countries of Jordan, Turkey, and Egypt? I wonder how those countries manage their ties.

    The whole “Make in India” thing is BS. The government essentially has a monopoly on defense. There is no Lockheed-Martin or Boeing or Northrop-Grumman. So it is natural that a lot of defense sh1t doesn’t get made.

    1. Poor Israel.

      The girlfriend the boy won’t or can’t take home.

      1. I’ll take her in the backseat.

      2. Well, she does have all those tattoos…

        /Keepin’ it classy with Auschwitz jokes.

      3. Who wouldn’t want to take Bar Rafeali home?

        1. Me. My wife would be irate.

          1. She antisemitic or something?

  12. Hillary Clinton and Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) held a closed door meeting in a sign that the leading contender for the donkey party’s presidential nomination seeks support from the party’s left wing.

    Wait, Hitlary and Fauxahontas were behind closed doors with a donkey for what purpose?

    1. Paging HM!

    2. I don’t know what a donkey party is, but it sounds disgusting.

  13. Get ready for more cold weather.

    The main driver of all weather and climate, the entity which occupies 99.86% of all of the mass in our solar system, the great ball of fire in the sky ? has gone quiet again during what is likely to be the weakest sunspot cycle in more than a century. For the past 5 days, solar activity has been very low and one measure of solar activity ? its X-ray output ? has basically flatlined in recent days (plot below courtesy NOAA/Space Weather Prediction Center). Not since cycle 14 peaked in February 1906 has there been a solar cycle with fewer sunspots. We are currently more than six years into Solar Cycle 24 and today the sun is virtually spotless despite the fact that we are still in what is considered to be its solar maximum phase. Solar cycle 24 began after an unusually deep solar minimum that lasted from 2007 to 2009 which included more spotless days on the sun compared to any minimum in almost a century.

    1. I blame global warming.

      1. That is the logical basis for their arguments.

        1. Of course. Human activity clearly can have an effect on the sun, are you anti-science or something?

          If we can just get more states to ban plastic grocery bags, we should be able to bring back those sunspots.

    2. Groundhogs have a sunspot sensor?

    3. For the past 5 days, solar activity has been very low and one measure of solar activity ? its X-ray output ? has basically flatlined in recent days

      Don’t die on us, sun!

      Damn it, we’re losing him!!

      1. Doctor Riviera, Doctor Nick Riviera. Please report to the coroner immediately!

        1. Not the corona?

          Not Professor Colonna?

        2. Paging Mr. Herman. Mr. Herman, you have a telephone call at the front desk.

      2. Dammit, Jim. I’m a doctor — not an astrophysicist.

    4. I seem to recall reading an article a few years ago where solar observers were concerned we were heading directly for a level of solar activity akin to the Mander Minimum and attendant Little Ice Age.

      1. Yep – And the warmists all called it crazy talk.

      2. Henrik Svensmark wrote a book about the relationship between sunspots, cosmic radiation and cloud formation several years ago and he was pilloried as a “denier.” I have no doubt that the anthro climate change shriekers will find some way to posit that this is even greater evidence of man being the singular driver of the barely measurable temperature changes that, if left unchecked, will sneak into our homes at night, slit our throats and make off with our daughters.

        1. And the CERN experiment showed a link between cosmic rays and cloud formation, although some interpreted it differently.

          To date the best fit of a model to the Temp from 1850 to present is the unpublished one that takes into account only sunspots and the multidecadal ocean currents. Dan Pangburn. I haven’t seen a proper evaluation, but it certainly can’t be worse than the other 103 loser models.

        2. if left unchecked, will sneak into our homes at night, slit our throats and make off with our daughters.

          thank you. I haven’t laughed all day until that.

      3. damn…looks like I picked the wrong century to move north

        1. Looks like I picked the wrong day to stop sniffing glue.

    5. today the sun is virtually spotless and makes loads of suds that last

      1. OK, boomers, finish THIS jingle:

        Oh Fab, I’m glad
        They put new…….

        1. Something borax in you, right? Lemon-freshened? I can’t remember.

          1. “…new lemon borax in you.”

            That’s according to my feeble memory, anyway.

            1. Definitely lemon and borax.

        2. ‘active-enzyme, lemon-freshened borax’

  14. Protect your retirement from the government’s whims

    I’m worried that government policies will undermine the value of my retirement savings. I’ve worked hard for this money and I’m counting on it to keep me comfortable during retirement. What can I do to avoid being robbed by Washington? — Joyce A.

    “Robbed” is perhaps a little strong, but I understand your trepidation.

    “Robbed” a little bit strong?

    1. You’re right.

      It’s too late – we’ve already been robbed.

    2. Sure they gave up on 529 plans this year, but the facts are that raiding 401(k)s and Roth IRAs are the only way to find cash when interest rates finally rise. I recommend assets that can be concealed and smuggled.

      1. How are they going to fund government pensions without taxing private retirement plans?

      2. “I recommend assets that can be concealed and smuggled.”

        Your father…hid this watch…

        1. +1 uncomfortable hunk of metal

    3. Social Security aside, tax rates are typically the main source of concern.

      Actually, my main concern is about inflation. I don’t much care about tax rates if the IRA isn’t worth anything.

      So far, so good … but I’m old enough to remember the Nixon/Carter years.

  15. The federal government considers extending the deadline for Obamacare enollment, probably to minimize the inevitable backlash from those slammed by penalties.

    Might as well do away with the penalties at this point.

  16. http://www.washingtonexaminer……le/2560306

    Johnson, who co-wrote the book about the false rape allegation against the Duke lacrosse team, has been trying to bring sanity back to the debate over how college campuses handle sexual assault accusations by explaining repeatedly that accused students should not be convicted based on an allegation, without the ability to defend themselves.

    And that’s where the activists disagree.

    Protesters showed up to his lecture with homemade signs and t-shirts that said “rape is real” (no one is saying it isn’t) and “sex without consent is always rape” (no one is saying otherwise). They stood up when he was about to speak and blocked the audience’s view of Johnson.

    Words fail.

    1. homemade signs and t-shirts that said “rape is real”

      and blocked the audience’s view of Johnson.

      Liberal Fascism is real!

      1. “It seems very unlikely the activists had read anything I’ve written before I came ? their questions seemed to operate from the premise that I was going to be arguing something along the lines of rape never occurring or something like that,” Johnson wrote.

        Johnson said that overall, the questions from activists and supporters were respectful, and the protesters were “not obstructionist” after they first sat down (with one exception, when students mistook Johnson’s comments about minorities being harmed by an erosion of due process to mean the opposite).

        I admit I laughed out loud at the cognitive dissonance on display.

        1. It seems very unlikely the activists had read anything I’ve written before I came

          Let me see if I can find my shocked face.

          1. It seems very unlikely the activists had read anything I’ve written before I came

            It seems very unlikely the activists had read anything I’ve written before I came

            Fixed.

        2. “(with one exception, when students mistook Johnson’s comments about minorities being harmed by an erosion of due process to mean the opposite).”

          These are the dumbest human beings on the planet.

          1. Kneel before your future leaders.

      2. True, dat.

    1. Not gonna click on a goo.gl link.

      1. It’s a gif of Obama and Biden dancing.

        1. And Biden isn’t pawing Obo!

        2. Biden looks like a kid pretending to be an airplane.

          Obama looks like some kid trying to ape how movie chimpanzees knuckle walk.

  17. Let’s just say that I know of a peer reviewed article that is set to be published sometime soon.

    In the article, a key find is that the success of Alabama schools is positively correlated with local spending.

    However, success is inversely proportional to federal spending (R-value and p-value incredibly significant).

    Are there any ideas for the negative correlation with federal spending. If spending from the local level is correlated with school success, why shouldn’t federal spending?

    1. I’m considering the hypothesis that local spending could have fewer strings attached. This would allow the money to be spent more effectively than federal dollars.

      1. Also, local spending might be more correlated with success because the local spending comes from local taxes and the local taxpayers have a vested interest in the success of the schools…

        1. A college without Title IX (no Federal monies), hence with so much more administrative freedom, would be an interesting entity in today’s America.

          1. So, Hillsdale?

    2. Does the federal spending come with conditions that may be detrimental to performance?

      1. This is twice I’ve had my comment stolen by seconds! Twice!

      2. The more affluent the county, the more money that is spent on public education in the local school system.

        However, there’s also the possibility that the affluence could be a confounding factor in terms of the school performance variable(s).

        1. Westchester County, NY has some very successful “public” schools, most notably in the most affluent zip codes.

    3. I would guess, two reasons. First, the federal money comes with strings attached and mandates that are counter productive. Second, if the local community doesn’t fund the school, they don’t take ownership of it or the quality of its education.

      Also, local funding varies mostly on property values. Higher values equal higher income, higher funding but also better students.

      1. ^ Both of these strike me as accurate. Federal money is just the feds hurling cash at a school district with no attempt to run an effective school, whereas local spending is evidence of people taking ownership of the well-being of their own kids.

      2. I suspect that federal money is preferentially tossed at the worst school districts. Federal spending may make them worse in some ways, but I’d bet that the causation mostly goes in the other direction: failure attracts federal money.

        1. This is very true. Our little SF suburb’s public schools are ranked among the best in the state, which means it gets the lowest amount of state and federal dollars per student of any school in the state (some failing inner-city schools get more than twice as much per pupil).

          This fact is relentlessly hammered to us by the local school board and administrators. So all us parents donate extensively to this so-called public school, and attend charity auctions and many other events. A good chunk of the school’s funding thus comes directly from local voluntary sources rather than taxes.

          Still doesn’t make any difference to the professional whiners. At least quarterly I read some op-ed diatribe about how the ‘rich’ communities spend so much more on students than the failing schools, when exactly the opposite is the reality.

    4. Higher local funding from richer areas? Higher federal funding to poor areas?

      1. My next question is whether federal education dollars are an incentive for poor performance.

        If federal spending policy is attempting to decrease the funding gap between poor counties and affluent counties, why are federal dollars less effective at funding education.

        I think John probably hit the nail on the head. Local dollars come from local communities. As such, the community has an interest in seeing that those dollars are well spent.

        1. Perhaps. You have to look at the tangible political steps taken by residents, then. My guess is that parents’ interest and involvement in their children’s education is the major factor, and wealthier people are more likely to be involved than poorer. The school then benefits from more engaged and motivated students.

          1. And yes, I meant to include cognitive ability in the above. Cato pretty much said my position, and he has an excellent point about federal money going disproportionally to schools catering special needs students.

        2. In the same way, states move up the federal ladder for highway funding by neglecting their roads.

          This is the standard rent seeking example and we know that liberals don’t believe in Public Choice economics.

          They’ll tell you the wealthier school districts are privileged with better nutrition, regular sleep, appropriate clothing, involved parents, blah, blah, blah, and propose programs to provide such to poorer districts.

    5. Here’s a hypothesis:

      1) Higher local spending is correlated with local real estate values and income; real estate values and income are correlated with cognitive ability of parents; cognitive ability of parents is correlated with cognitive ability of students; and cognitive ability of students is correlated with educational success.

      2) Higher federal spending is correlated with amounts spent in school feeding programs and special education needs. School feeding program usage and special education needs are correlated with lower cognitive ability of students.

    6. The local spending probably captures local demographics. Rich people have local schools that spend a lot of money. The rich kids who attend those schools are probably better students for a variety of reasons (parents care, better home life, etc.). The local spending partly serves as a proxy for that.

  18. The famous Milgram experiment turns out to be a fraud.

    http://www.theatlantic.com/hea…..ts/384913/

    1. Doesn’t the Final Solution provide much better evidence that people will do what they are told – particularly when they are among a group doing so?

      1. No. It provides evidence that people will willingly murder other people. I don’t think doing what they were told has much to do with it. They wanted to do what they did.

        1. John, you must have a much lower opinion of Germans than I do. I can’t imagine that thousands of Germans wanted to kill their fellow citizens without coercion. The biggest difference is that in the Milgram study each person was acting alone, and not being judged or encouraged by his/her compatriots.

          1. They absolutely did. The people who worked in the death camps volunteered to do so. No one forced them to. The worst atrocities were committed by special police battalions that were all volunteers.

            And it wasn’t just the Germans. The rest of Europe, sans the Dutch and the Italians, happily collaborated and handed their Jews over to be killed.

            You need to read more history of the holocaust.

            1. Not according to the accounts of the Nuremberg trials.

              Q. Now can you tell us whether the majority of the men, no matter where they came from, were volunteers or whether they were drafted?

              A. No one ever volunteered for guard duty at concentration camps. The racial Germans as well as the Reich Germans who were used as guards were assigned there. The members of the Wehrmacht also, as far as I know, did not volunteer for this service but were sent there by order.

              1. That was a lie. The documentary evidence said otherwise. Sure they all claimed they were just following orders, after they lost the war and were about to be hanged.

            2. It certainly is true that in eastern Europe, when the Nazi’s arrived, local leaders happily pointed out the Jews.

              I think that part of the issue is that the industrial nature of the holocaust allowed a lot of people to fool themselves into thinking they were just following orders when they were in fact critical cogs, while a very small number were actually pulling triggers or releasing gas.

            3. Finding psychopaths amongst the general population is a generally easy thing to do; grouping them together and giving them authority leads to a lot of bad outcomes.

              We can point to a lot of police forces, religous orgs, or green committees that would happily turn on the ovens for the ‘bad others’ who ‘deserve’ it. How many Jezzy commentators would gladly crush most of us under their booted heel.

              It just takes the right conditions for people to revert to their basest savagery, and we’re only about 10 feet away from it at any time.

            4. Some of the worst atrocities were committed by the Kapos, or prisoners basically deputized by the guard (it could have stood for Kamp Polizei). There were the most loathed by the other prisoners (more than the guards were) as their brutality knew no bounds, since if they lost the status the guards had conferred on them their were immediately killed by the other prisoners. Of course, when the camps were liberated, they WERE immediately killed by the other prisoners…

              1. No group was pure in WW II. Some despicable local leaders and Sonderkommando were numbered among the Jews.

                But the worst atrocities were committed by the Nazi and Bolshevik fanatics.

      2. At the end of the experiment, Burger was left with an obedience rate around the same as the one Milgram had recorded?proving, he said, not only that Milgram’s numbers had been accurate, but that his work was as relevant as ever.

        1. One of the most vocal of those critics is Australian author and psychologist Gina Perry, who documented her experience tracking down Milgram’s research participants in her 2013 book Behind the Shock Machine: The Untold Story of the Notorious Milgram Psychology Experiments. Her project began as an effort to write about the experiments from the perspective of the participants?but when she went back through the archives to confirm some of their stories, she said, she found some glaring issues with Milgram’s data. Among her accusations: that the supervisors went off script in their prods to the teachers, that some of the volunteers were aware that the setup was a hoax, and that others weren’t debriefed on the whole thing until months later. “My main issue is that methodologically, there have been so many problems with Milgram’s research that we have to start re-examining the textbook descriptions of the research,” she said.

          1. lern2thred, newfag

    2. “People have tried to knock it down, and it always comes up standing.”

      You know what else always comes up standing ….

      1. The Doomcock of Doom??

      2. an erection lasting more than four hours?

      3. Weebles?

    3. Milgram experiment may not have been fully scientific, but its conclusions were not totally bogus. In fact, they are even more relevant today.

      Trained as they are to do so, today’s cops are happy to deliver up to 50,000 volts with their Tasers.

      1. That’s not because they are trained or being told to do so. It’s because they are barely-restrained psychopaths.

    4. Good lord. The Atlantic is a full year behind Cracked.com

      http://www.cracked.com/blog/4-…..s-to-hype/

  19. Why are we continuing to call them “pro-Russian separatists”? They are RUSSIAN REGULARS; they are led by Russians; they were even seen crossing the damn border. WTF?

    1. “Pro-Soviet separatists” might be more appropriate.

    2. Since the US and the NATOites promised Ukraine security, admitting the Russian army is invading the Ukraine will embarrass the Obama and the Eurowennies.

      They might actually have to, either admit that they aren’t going to save the Ukraine or get off the pot and deploy tanks and planes and boots to eurasian steppes.

  20. http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_…..sault.html

    In case the public discussion around campus sexual assault wasn’t enough of a circus, now we have the gun people getting involved.

    Marcotte, rape, and guns. What’s not to like.

    1. Its like a naked singularity of idiocy. Idiocy reduced to its more dense form.

    2. What are three things about which her opinions have no relationship with reality, Alex?

    3. But would it actually improve campus safety? No. Most rapes, especially among college students, are acquaintance rapes and defy the burglar-coming-in-the-window fantasy of self defense that gun advocates like to invoke.

      It’s well known that it’s impossible to shoot someone you know.

      1. “the burglar-coming-in-the-window fantasy”

        Telling…

      2. Well Marcotte and friends seem to focus wholly on drunk or incapacitated sex, and it’s a fair point that in those situations, a gun will likely not be a deterrent.

        1. That’s true. Guns can’t magically go back and un-fuck the guy you regret fucking from last night. Only rape accusations with no due process can do that.

        2. l Marcotte and friends seem to focus wholly on drunk or incapacitated sex,

          That’s probably because they need a guy to be three sheets to the wind before he’ll make a move on them.

          -jcr

          1. If I drink that much, I get whiskey-dick. Which is probably a good thing.

    4. There’s also a concern that allowing guns on campus would make it easier for rapists to rape: Get a girl to your room, start messing around, and when you want to attack, show her the gun you’re now allowed to have on campus.

      Because someone who intends to rape you would never think of breaking another law.

      1. And they certainly wouldn’t reconsider raping someone who has the means of killing of them.

        1. Every girl should have a leg like that chick from Grindhouse. For safety.

  21. I don’t know if you all saw this. Melissa Harris-Perry actually dropped down on her knees and fellated Eric Holder on TV.

    1. You are literally worse than Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot, and Warty combined.

  22. I hit the AM links; since the crowds diverge a bit, I will re-announce in here:

    I have uploaded a new version of fascr.

    Please note that I haven’t spent as much time testing things as I’d like; however, I wanted to go ahead and get it out there.

    The most significant change is probably support for Firefox for Android, so you can ignore Bo on your phone and tablet. See the homepage for details.

    The two other primary new features are counting the number of characters in comments as you type and the ability to “toggle” threads you’re not interested in without blocking the posters. Again, see the homepage for details.

    I also made quite a few under-the-hood “improvements” (read: sources of new bugs), though the code is still a mess. Hotkeys should be more reliable now, though they still fail now and then. Also, the mechanism for removing users from your blocklist has changed yet again; see “Usage notes / tips”.

    Please do go ahead and read through the homepage before asking questions; I tried to be thorough.

    1. “so you can ignore Bo on your phone and tablet. See the homepage for details.”

      My what dainty flowers some are.

      1. It’s been explained to you several times. Several times this week, in fact.

        1. That some here are dainty flowers?

          The funny thing is that the people who go around talking about ignoring me (how’d that for ironic lack of self awareness in itself?) are often the same people who love to dig up proggie comments and post them here for a twenty-odd post exchange about them.

          1. Bo, it’s not that you’re wrong. It’s just that you’re an asshole.

            1. Have you noticed how much he’s learned to loathe us recently? It’s quite a sight to see.

              1. Yes, Bo goes to the ad hominems much more readily these days.

                1. Notice how his go-to complaint is that we joke around with each other and lots of us are friends. It’s almost…what’s the word…Tulpical.

                  1. “lots of us are friends. ”

                    Omg, that’s even sadder than your slip about virgins in college. There’s a lot of desperation driving those squats I see.

                    1. Omg, that’s even sadder than your slip about virgins in college. There’s a lot of desperation driving those squats I see.

                      That’s…not even clever. It’s the kind of thing that you can only get away with on the internet. It’s like…Brian Williams Internet Tough Guy.

                      Lame.

                    2. He desperately wants to be a bully, but he’s just…bad…at it. And clearly a virgin.

                    3. “lots of us are friends. “

                      Omg, that’s even sadder than your slip about virgins in college. There’s a lot of desperation driving those squats I see.

                      *whisper* He means IRL friends, not internet friends. */whisper*

                      There’s also a lot of “I’m going to be in your town. Let’s grab a drink” going on. If you’re ever in LA you should let us know. We have a fairly robust social group here.

                    4. I was broken up when JsubD died. I stopped posting for about 6 weeks.

                      Some of you are friends in real life, even though Ive only ever met one of you fuckers.

                    5. Wow, Jesse! When everybody abandoned him, you’re the only one who could still be nice to Bo.

                    6. Wow, Jesse! When everybody abandoned him, you’re the only one who could still be nice to Bo.

                      I’m not really being nice. Commenting here people can end up one dimensional. Always interesting to interact with people who you know from this rarefied form of communication in a more 3D way. I’d be willing to give that shot to most people on here.

                    7. It’s a trap

                    8. And if you’re one of the lucky ones, you might even get sexually harassed. But only if you’re asking for it. We take our rape culture seriously in LA.

                  2. Part of me wants to ask him if watched a lot of Barney the Purple Dinosaur in his formative years (I have a hypothesis that the conflict resolution taught in that show socializes people to be incapable of getting along with people who don’t share their views and tastes).

                    Then I remind myself that interacting with some people is even more worthless than engaging in a discussion with Tony.

                2. Yeah, I’m certainly the epitome of that around here Big T.

                  Are you people that devoid of self awareness?

            2. Again the irony. You’re calling me an asshole but I’m the asshole. I’ve never said anything remotely like that to you.

              The collective groupthink is hilarious. If you went and posted on Huff Post don’t you think they’d find you to be an ‘asshole’ pretty quick, regardless of your manners? Only a blind person can’t see that most of the same people that think I’m an ‘asshole’ here are also the ones that agree with John instead if the Reason writers on the immigration threads and so on.

              1. I agree with John on nothing. He is also an asshole. But you are by far a bigger asshole.

                It’s not even close.

                Oh, and John is only an asshole some of the time. He’s moody that way, You, on the other hand, are an asshole every time you get the chance.

                1. PM, you need to have better understanding. We all do. Here’s a nice fact sheet from NIH:
                  Asperger’s

                2. Just don’t mention b___y a___r.

              2. I think you’re both assholes. The difference is John is actually a likable guy.

                1. Likable like Officer Farva from Super Troopers.

                2. Also, John would probably readily agree that he can be an asshole at times. Bo, on the other hand, will post 50 comments crying “I am not!!!”

                3. You know who else was a likeable guy?

                  1. Gilbert Godfrey?

              3. What does immigration, or disagreeing with the contributors, have to do with anything?

                1. People love political echo chambers and tend to make dissent personal. Try it out yourself at other sites.

                  I get that, but what’s fascinating here is a big part of the echo chamber is far to the right of the hosts of the site.

                  1. Their are left- and right-leaning libertarians.

                    The right-leaners calling out the left-leaners, regardless who they are, shouldn’t be a problem.

                    You like to call out SoCons, and rightly so. It isn’t ok to call out the lefty equivalent?

              4. Only a blind person can’t see that most of the same people that think I’m an ‘asshole’ here are also the ones that agree with John instead if the Reason writers on the immigration threads and so on.

                No, Bo. It’s pretty much everybody.

                Sometime the new guys like you for a while…until they get to know you. Then they understand why everyone else here despises you.

                It’s not your beliefs. It’s that you are an ASSHOLE!

                1. Only a blind person can’t see that most of the same people that think I’m an ‘asshole’ here are also the ones that agree with John instead if the Reason writers on the immigration threads and so on.

                  This is a very good example of Bo’s utter inability to comprehend what people are writing.

                  Bo thinks I, an open borders guy who has had epic arguments with John about letting ISIS guys immigrate into the U.S., is in agreement with John.

                  There is little point in conversing with someone who is this detached from reality. The only useful thing conversing with them provides is an insight into their actions. And if one is utterly uninterested in their actions, if the only interaction is over a message board on a website, then that insight isn’t very useful.

                  And lest people think I am making a mountain out of a molehill, it one example of many instances where he just couldn’t understand what people were writing to him – ranging from his confusion when people asked him to use formatting to differentiate his commentary from the texts he was quoting (and donkey-like refusal to change) to conceptual gaffes such as misidentifying arguments on behalf of “the rule of law” as being contrived conceptual covers designed obscure people’s bloodthirsty motivations.

                  His arrogance is actually not his biggest problem (although it does make him very difficult to tolerate) – it’s his inability to comprehend what he is reading.

                  1. On the other hand, tarran, his recent meltdowns have been hilarious. So he’s worth something after all.

                    1. If you say so.

                      Personally, I found them irritating. Your tastes are clearly more brutal than mine.

          2. Once again: It is not your ideas.

            It’s that you are unwilling or unable to control your behavior, and it gets so god damn obnoxious that nobody wants to listen to a word you say.

            You can live in self denial all you want, but that doesn’t make it any less true. There’s no way, I repeat, NO WAY that this behavior doesn’t impact every facet of your life.

            If you’re working on it, then good for you. Work harder.

            1. Serious question Playa: do you ever comment on any other discussion board? If so, have you never seen where when someone is ideologically at odds with a group of posters they will soon start insulting g that guy, regardless of their manner?

              Your hilarious with your ‘this must effect other facets of your life!’ Come out of your bubble.

              Try it. Go to a site where you find you disagree with a group on politics. Express yourself. How long before you’re getting the exact same treatment and speeches?

              You can’t really be this insular.

              1. You’re telling me that this ASPY behavior is only on the internet? If that were true, you wouldn’t still be a virgin.

            2. It’s that you are unwilling or unable to control your behavior, and it gets so god damn obnoxious that nobody wants to listen to a word you say.

              That’s why I blocked it months ago.

              It’s a waste of life to deal with it in any way. I urge others to do the same.

              JUST SAY NO BO.

          3. I’m no dainty flower, asshole. You just suck. Your intellect is lacking.

            1. So run and hide from it?

              1. run and hide from it =/= ignore

              2. No confront it and rebut it and mock it. Which is what we do.

    2. N.B. since this morning, I have made two minor changes: in the options, you will now find (1) an option to disable the comment length counter and (2) options to change the colors with which posts are highlighted.

    3. so you can ignore Bo on your phone and tablet.

      ZING

      Excellent work, thank you. I’ll check this out.

      1. A guy who can squat 1,000 is such a wimp?

        1. Let me ask you a question, Bo.

          Do you really have no self-awareness? Warty hardly strikes me as a conservative-leaning libertarian. Do you really think he’s afraid of your “truth telling”? Has it ever occurred to you that people are making fun of you or are hostile to you not because they’re part of a vast right-wing conspiracy, but you’ve worn out their patience with you?

          1. Oh, he hates me because I called him a virgin one time. I don’t think he cares at all about my opinions.

            Though he probably also hates me for not being serious enough for his tastes.

            1. Oh, he hates me because I called him a virgin one time.

              Wow. Even I didn’t think he was that bad. What a sad, sad, little man.

          2. Wait, we’re not all part of a vast right-wing conspiracy?

            1. I’m still waiting for my check. I’ll go check the mail.

      2. ZING

        I meant to amend it to so you can ignore Bo on the go for the PM links repost, but forgot in the midst of my hasty copy-and-paste job.

  23. U Penn is private, they should be able to associate with customers on whatever criteria they want. Freedom of association isn’t just for evangelical bakers.

    1. Except that they take federal money and agree to do otherwise by doing so. Moreover, they have student handbooks and rules that amount to a contract with their students providing due process.

      More importantly, even if they could legally do it, that wouldn’t make it right or make criticism of their actions any less valid or your point any less idiotic.

      1. If they’re in violation of contract they should be sued.

        As to the federal funding, do you think Catholic Charities which does too should then have the government say who they can associate with?

        1. If this was a charity rather than a college, it would be analogous.

          Beyond that, yes they should be sued and are being sued. That is the entire point you half wit. Amazingly enough, their right to association doesn’t allow them to screw their students or make them immune from criticism.

          You have no point here other than to obscure the criticism you don’t like.

          1. “If this was a charity rather than a college, it would be analogous.”

            Huh? We have different rules for private organizations association all rights based on mission?

            1. No we have different rules for money we give charities and money we give colleges. Moreover, we have this little thing called the Free Exercise clause with protects the Catholic Church from being forced to act against their beliefs but doesn’t protect campus feminists from oppressing men.

              1. Free exercise protects against state action John

    2. The Department of Education is forcing this shit on private schools, on the grounds that the schools take federally subsidized student loans. Of course, the schools don’t have uphold the 1st (or especially the 2nd!) Amendments.

      There’s a reason why people refer to you as Botard.

      1. To the extent that’s true then that’s the problem. But it’s not hard to believe that considering the clientele at most colleges this might be something the college thinks they actually want.

    3. On the one hand I agree that students and schools can enter into any contract they like. However, unless they intend to aggressively deny women due process, they’re fucked by Title IX

    4. Being private doesn’t grant them the right to defame their customers.

  24. Penn’s procedures are unfair to students accused of sexual violence, who may be subjected to “serious, life-changing sanctions” without getting a real chance to defend themselves.

    SEE?! College *does* prepare one for the real world!!

  25. Don’t do it, people. For your own sakes.

    Also, OH NOES GENDER ROLES. I’ve noticed a couple of these articles where sensitive men write about how insensitive this stupid movie is and how they’d never hit a woman, no sir.

    1. So when does the BDSM crowd get to claim special group status for repeatably being stereotyped and treated as horrible people for their voluntary sexual activities?

      1. I always thought they did by virtue of being an alternative lifestyle that the SOCONs hated. Now, I guess not. It goes to show that the knock at the door will eventually come and you will be kicked out of the prog hive at some point.

        1. You’d never be able to square a male-dom female-sub relationship with feminist ideas of patriarchy and oppression. Though some feminists who are into the kink try their damnedest.

          1. There are some feminists who believe in fun. Ask ENB.

            1. Yeah I read her article on her personal kinks. I tend to go for Wendy McElroy personally. I’m more referring to the systemic oppression and false consciousness arguments.

              1. ENB wrote about her kinks?

                1. What do you care? You going to cheat on your wife, Eddie?

                  1. No he was just going to commit a venial sin… in his bunk.

                    1. She doesn’t do it for me, sorry, but I must say that is a whole lot of lovers she’s had. Where does she store them all?

                      Here’s a sentence which leaped out at me:

                      “There was the amiable real estate agent and local kickball star obsessed with face-fucking, enemas, faux-incest, and someday having a submissive housewife.”

                      I mean, omg, a submissive housewife? Just go down to precinct and register as a sex offender!

                  1. Which is marriage-destroying, the call girl or her site?

                    Because whenever Reason links to some article by an ex call girl or prostitutes’ rights activist, it’s totally the reverse of erotic.

        2. I always thought they did by virtue of being an alternative lifestyle that the SOCONs hated. Now, I guess not. It goes to show that the knock at the door will eventually come and you will be kicked out of the prog hive at some point.

          I resent the implication that I was part of the prog hive.

    2. That reminds me of this excruciating comment:

      Well, [The Lego Movie] could of been [the best animated film of 2014], if it wasn’t for Wyldstyle/Lucy being another victim of the “Trinity Syndrome”. Named after the character from The Matrix, the experienced Trinity is a badass, yet somehow isn’t “the One”, stupid Neo is. She’s quits being amazing and goes along with the story.

      Similarly, Wyldstyle should be “the Special” in the Lego Movie, but for some reason it is the ridiculous and untrained Emmett. If the filmmakers hadn’t chosen to parody The Matrix and continued to let Wyldstyle be her wonderful self, man she of been something really special versus relying on past tropes.

      Through Lucy, the message is that girls need to hold back, conceal their skills, be lesser, remove them awesome selves from the spotlight to let HIM be the hero (yet again).

      Refreshingly, The Lego Movie did have the fantastic Princess Unikitty to counter the unfortunate Lucy. At least. She was, without a contest, my favorite character from that film. She’s the same level of coolness from her first appearance until the film concludes. Not to mention, she’s instrumental in the final battle too.

      1. Doug: [wearing a T-shirt that says “Genius at Work”] Hi. A question for Miss Bellamy. In episode 2F09 when Itchy plays Scratchy’s skeleton like a xylophone, he strikes the same rib twice in succession, yet he produces two clearly different tones. I mean, what are we to believe, that this is some sort of a magic xylophone or something? Boy, I really hope somebody got fired for that blunder.
        June Bellamy: Uh, well…
        Homer: I’ll field this one.
        Homer: [to Doug] Let me ask you a question. Why would a man whose shirt says “Genius at Work” spend all of his time watching a children’s cartoon show?
        [pause]
        Doug: I withdraw my question.
        [takes a bite from a bar of chocolate]

        Also, Comic Book Guy is named Doug???

        1. No, CBG’s name is Jeff Albertson. Doug is a different, more minor character.

      2. Through Lucy, the message is that girls need to hold back, conceal their skills, be lesser, remove them awesome selves from the spotlight to let HIM be the hero (yet again).

        And fuck Batman?

        1. DARK-NESS
          NO PARENTS

          CONTINUED DARKNESS

      3. Similarly, Wyldstyle should be “the Special” in the Lego Movie, but for some reason it is the ridiculous and untrained Emmett. If the filmmakers hadn’t chosen to parody The Matrix and continued to let Wyldstyle be her wonderful self, man she of been something really special versus relying on past tropes.

        Bro/Sis, did you even watch the movie?

        And Edge of Tomorrow is now on HBO / HBOGo. Watch that if you want to see a beautiful woman kick ass from beginning to end.

        1. Yeah, he missed the point of the movie to a comical extent.

    3. I have to admit I have no interest in 50 shades of grey because I don’t really care for the relationship as described in reviews of both the book and the movie.

      It’s aesthetically unappealing, like the mealworm cupcakes an acquaintance crowed about consuming in London on a recent face-book post.

      1. Read Dave Berry’s review of the book. I have never read a more brutally effective take down of a book in my life. It is like most things Berry writes, also really funny.

        1. John, I read it just now, and I was almost peeing my pants in laughter.

          Why was this book so incredibly popular? When so many women get so emotionally involved in a badly written, comically unrealistic porno yarn, what does this tell us? That women are basically insane? Yes.

          I mean no! No. Of course it does not tell us that. What it tells us is this: Women are interested in sex.

          1. Its hysterical. his description of the book and the idiocy of the writing and plot is spot on.

            1. Oh you and your matter-of-fact musings.

          2. How about a link to the Dave Barry review?

        2. Totally agree John.

          Here’s a link

          http://time.com/3030375/dave-b…..s-of-grey/

          1. damn, posted too fast

            1. C’mon, just because this thread is about a smut book there is no excuse for bringing your personal sex life into it.

              1. Nice.

          2. Good to see Barry still has some chops…used to like his stuff.

    4. This is just group signing to each other. “Soccer moms are flocking to this movie. We are better than them.”

      1. They, like, live in suburbs and drive SUV’s and stuff.

      2. Soccer moms? Where?

    5. He clearly states in the movie that he was some woman’s sub for seven years.

      Shut up, we went to hate watch it and I almost fell asleep. I hate you all.

      Incidentally the only time I’ve been open-hand slapped was when I was drinking with a liberal lady friend and she said “My boyfriend doesn’t hit me enough” and I responded “Oh really, Ayn Rand?”

      So tiny, but she got some good speed on it.

      1. This one was flirting with you, too. Just because they know you’re gay doesn’t mean they won’t try. See: dudes chatting up lesbians. I have first-hand experience that sometimes it works.

        1. That…doesn’t surprise me. She’d wanted to hit on me freshman year of college, realized I was gay and went for my roommate instead, who she dated for two years.

          Jeez, we’ve been friends for 14 years now. I feel old.

          See: dudes chatting up lesbians.

          Yeah, I chat up straight dudes all the time, although some of that is my relatively weak gaydar and that I’m in primarily straight bars with friends when I’m out.

      2. He clearly states in the movie that he was some woman’s sub for seven years.

        I was told by a sub recently that that is usually the way doms start out. I had no idea.

        1. Huh, that’s interesting. Admittedly, my experience is limited to non-existant, but I always just figured either one got off on being the dominator or on being the dominatee, but put that way it sounds more like some kind of apprenticeship.

          1. My experience is definitely not limited, and until she told me that, I thought the same way you did.

          2. They have guilds and everything!

  26. Oklahoma legislative committee votes to cut AP US History classes.

    http://nymag.com/daily/intelli…..story.html

    1. It annoys me to no end that lawmakers have to muck around with education. End government schooling already.

    2. BOOOO!

      Although my own experience with AP US History tells me they won’t be missing much. My teacher taught us out of Howard Zinn’s People’s History of the United States and seemed to seriously believe this was an accurate representation of American history.

      1. I would agree that the value of the course would be pretty dependent on the teacher and what and how they teach (I fulfilled my US History requirement in HS by taking a community college course over the summer). AP classes and exams do look good when applying to college so I think it’s hurting students in that regard.

        Left-wing bias in curriculum isn’t good, but neither is right-wing bias that whitewashes history (not accusing you of saying that, just talking generally about the situation).

      2. Really? I don’t think I could’ve passed the AP exam with the shit in Zinn’s book. How did it work out for you?

        1. I did fine because I know a lot about history anyway. I got a five on the test largely based on prior knowledge since I learned nothing in the class (except that I’m a colonialist oppressor who destroys the poor through my capitalist greed).

    3. AFAIK, the idiot legislator behind this is also the idiot legislator who’s behind Oklahoma trying to sue Colorado for their pot laws.

      1. He actually came out more reasonable on this in today’s npr interview than I would have first guessed. He’s just asked the class be reviewed at this point at which point funding/approval could follow.

    4. Krieger complained that the framework portrays the Founding Fathers as “bigots” and suggests that Manifest Destiny was “built on a belief in white racial superiority and a sense of American cultural superiority,” rather than “the belief that America had a mission to spread democracy and new technology across the continent,” as he put it.

      Yes, because when I think of Native Americans, it’s how well known they are for their political integration and their mastery of advanced technology.

    5. Krieger complained that the framework portrays the Founding Fathers as “bigots”

      Here is the framework in question:

      AP United States History Course and Exam Description Including the Curriculum Framework

      Please point out to me something in the document that qualifies Krieger’s accusation as anything but an outright lie.

  27. Are Perceptions of Hotness Contagious?

    File this under obvious: what is attractive is at least partially tied to what it is socially acceptable to be attracted to.

    Sometimes, after rating a photo, participants saw how other people had rated that photo, and sometimes they didn’t. The researchers found that when people saw ratings after making their own judgement, in subsequent judgments they got closer and closer to other people’s overall average rating of that photo. In other words ? and I’m making up the specific numbers ? if on the first photo they ranked they were off by 2 points on a 10-point scale as compared to the average, by the 20th photo they were off by, on average, 1.25 points.

    The researchers interpret this as meaning that as people rated photos, they were influenced by other people’s standards of beauty and internalized these standards without even knowing it.

    An ex once commented that his tastes had matured and he’d gone from liking hairless twinks when he was younger to beefier more rugged guys now (hence us dating). I pointed out that that lined up perfectly with metrosexuals being the new hotness through the rejection of that and an adoption of burlier standards of male beauty.

    1. Shut up and look at that dick pic I sent you.

      1. It’s hard to tell which is your penis because of all the tentacles and viscous fluids currently unknown to human science.

        1. WELL THEN LOOK AT MY ABZ YOU RETARD

      2. Shut up and look at that dick pic I sent you.

        *checks inbox*

        You’re really too cruel, Warty Louise Hugeman

    1. Hotter, actually.

      1. Hotter, actually.

        Correct. Women, unless disfigured, are hotter without makeup. If I wanted to fuck a clown I’d move in with John Wayne Gacy.

    2. I’m not sure that stuff qualifies as “in real life” — but yes, pretty much.

    3. Real life is holding up photos of yourself in a bikini?

    4. I like how many of them are conspicuously eating in their instagram shots. “Lol, I totally, like, eat ice cream all the time! And I don’t even throw it up afterward, honest! LOL!”

        1. Fuck yeah. This is fun.

    5. You’re all wrong. In the first “natural” picture, Teigen is the one on the left.

  28. 10 truly bizarre Tea Party bills: From nipples to militias to religious zealotry

    http://www.salon.com/2015/02/1….._zealotry/

    GIT YER FILTHY GOVERNMENT HANDS OFF MY MEDICARE!

    1. You missed my question from yesterday. Which of the big 4 do you work for?

    2. tax free ammo production doesn’t seem so bad

  29. Salon has an interview with David Boaz with a strange headline. http://tinyurl.com/nhz7axb

    And comments like this: “What is the Libertarian answer for technology driven decline in labor demand? Starving peasants ought to understand the immorality of redistribution?” What is the old saying… none are so blind as those who will not see.

    1. Heh. I meant the interview had a strange headline, not David Boaz.

    2. “What is the Libertarian answer for technology driven decline in labor demand? Starving peasants ought to understand the immorality of redistribution?”

      It doesn’t exist for the same reason that buggies becoming obsolete didn’t result in high unemployment forever.

      Why not ask what the libertarian response to dragons would be? They’re equally nonexistent.

      1. Libertarian response to dragons is that if they’re earned their hoard fairly, through employment such as a fair ride or mobile artillery platform, they are the owners and allowed to sleep on it for the ages. If they’ve stolen it from others however, libertarian policy is to hire a single young hero who’s village was destroyed by said dragon to slay it.

        1. I thought libertarians would lean more toward GOT than LOTR.

      2. I agree. It is as if these folks never learned the lesson of the industrial revolution. Technology changes the way work gets done, and then people learn to do other things.

        Though I think the response of many libertarians to dragons might be, “Cool! Where can I get one?” You know, ’cause they’re dragons.

        1. You can’t just “get” a dragon! You have to negotiate a contract to procure our services in exchange for virgins.

          1. If I could acquire virgins, would I really have time for a dragon?

          2. Well, that is certainly reasonable. I have heard rumors that orphans get discount rates. Is that true?

            1. But where can you find a virgin orphan?

    3. I thought we’d all agreed that soylent green takes care of this problem.

    4. What is the Libertarian answer for technology driven decline in labor demand?

      “Get a job”?

      1. Robots that can love, toil, cajole, create, and build should jolt the fuckbeans out of any goddamn political philosophy, dear.

        1. Where could I, uh, maybe go to, er, purchase one of these sexbots? Asking for a friend, of course.

    5. “What is the Libertarian answer for technology driven decline in labor demand? Starving peasants ought to understand the immorality of redistribution?”

      By this logic they never should have invented the labor saving farm implements that enabled the industrial revolution to happen.

      1. “Plows?! WHY DO YOU HATE THOSE POOR PEASANTS?! GIVE THEM BACK THEIR HOES RIGHT NOW, OR THEY MIGHT RUN OUT OF WORK TO DO!”

        Salon, circa 6,000 BC

        1. Back when Salon was produced by legions of socialist monks, but in typical hypocritical fashion when the printing press was invented they tossed the monks down a well and immediately made use of labor saving technology.

          1. I hope they at least kept the chartreuse.

        2. Hoes? Luxury! We had sticks, and we were lucky!

    6. Why did I read the comments? I should know better…..

  30. Professor who teaches conflict resolution to NYPD cops accused of beating partner as he slept

    A college professor who teaches New York City police officers and firefighters how to peacefully resolve conflicts has been charged with assaulting her longtime partner on Valentine’s Day.

    Joann Baney, a Columbia University faculty member, was arrested Saturday night at her Upper West Side apartment and charged with misdemeanor assault, reported the New York Daily News.

    The victim, a 46-year-old retired New York police sergeant, said the 54-year-old Baney slugged him as he slept at her apartment shortly before 11 p.m.

    He suffered cuts to his left ear and the right side of his neck.

    The arrest report shows Baney told police that she hit him because he had cheated on her.

    The newspaper describes her as “a staunch defender of women’s rights and an outspoken critic against domestic violence.”

    Baney teaches at Columbia’s executive education program, which offers professional degrees to New York City police officers and firefighters who are considered to be future leaders.

    1. As the saying goes: those who can’t do, teach.

    2. Meh. Lovers spat. He’s a pussy for having her arrested. Of course she gets no points for dating a cop either.

  31. Pro Lib, I approve of your naming skills (as usual). AIM it is!

    1. Asteroid Interception Mutual or maybe Asteroid Intersection Mutual?

  32. An article in the Harvard Law Review about title 9 enforcement.

    I recently assisted a young man who was subjected by administrators at his small liberal arts university in Oregon to a month-long investigation into all his campus relationships, seeking information about his possible sexual misconduct in them (an immense invasion of his and his friends’ privacy), and who was ordered to stay away from a fellow student (cutting him off from his housing, his campus job, and educational opportunity) ? all because he reminded her of the man who had raped her months before and thousands of miles away. He was found to be completely innocent of any sexual misconduct and was informed of the basis of the complaint against him only by accident and off-hand. But the stay-away order remained in place, and was so broadly drawn up that he was at constant risk of violating it and coming under discipline for that.

    1. When the duty to prevent a “sexually hostile environment” is interpreted this expansively, it is affirmatively indifferent to the restrained person’s complete and total innocence of any misconduct whatsoever.

      In a related development, OCR increasingly implies that the only adequate “interim measure” that can protect a complainant in the Title IX process is the exclusion of the accused person from campus pending resolution of the complaint. To be sure, in these cases the accused may eventually be found to be responsible for violations, sometimes very serious ones. But advocates and the OCR are arguing that all complainants are trauma victims subject to continuing trauma if the persons they accuse continue in school: merely “seeing” the harasser is deemed traumatic.24?
      24. DCL, supra note 8, at 13 n.33.

      These cases are becoming increasingly easy. Interim measures and environmental security provisions are justified as “merely administrative,” the equivalent of determining that more lights should be installed on campus walkways or that food safety certificates should be required for all vending machines.

    2. I saw that. That is the most unbelievable story I have ever heard on this subject. These people have gone foaming at the mouth barking mad.

      1. How could you ever teach history credibly with the fear of people being traumatized? What happens if you show a photo of Klan members at a lynching? Or a photo of Nazi Germany death camps?

        1. Dude, when I was in the History program in university, a student went apeshit on the professor for quoting (I forget the exact quote) Burke’s take on Africa.

          Student was black and he felt it was racist. The professor was clearly stunned and explained to the student he was merely reading Burke. But the student was so blinded by his own stupidity he wasn’t listening.

          1. Wait, you mean Delta Burke is a racist?

          2. “Hey professa, stop right der ann let me axe you somtin…”

    3. all because he reminded her of the man who had raped her months before and thousands of miles away.

      WTF? So now dude’s can have their lives ruined simply by resembling another dude who was a rapist. Jesus titty-fucking Christ… Just how similar does one have to look to the rapist? I suspect that merely being a male is enough for some femi-nazis.

    4. “all because he reminded her of the man who had raped her months before and thousands of miles away.”

      With stories like this, I can’t imagine that Gen Y is going to be holding college as sacred as previous generations when they’re the ones making hiring decisions. Now there’s a lot of talk about “do we need college?” But it’s just talk because they still remember college fondly. When the decision makers remember college as a living hell, things might actually change.

  33. The beltway media notices, at long last, that Vice President Joe Biden may be a little…off.

    Would be cynical of me to think they’re just trying to discredit him because they see him as the biggest threat to challenge Shillary in the Dem primaries?

    1. No. It is the same reason why Elizabeth Warren isn’t going to run. She has a ton of dirty laundry the media has dutifully ignored and will continue to do so as long as she doesn’t challenge the Hildebeast.

  34. http://www.salon.com/2015/02/1…..ingenuity/

    Can bacon save the horror that is deep dish pizza?

    1. Anything Salon approves is wrong, and also = that’s not Pizza.

      1. Though…

        ….mmmm..
        …. bacon…

        1. Too often when things get wrapped with bacon and cooked, the bacon ends up underdone with no crispness. Take out pizza already has an issue with crispiness anyways. You’re probably better off precooking lardons and adding them on top.

        2. fuck bacon… it’s little fatty mouth isn’t big enough to suck my cock…

      2. I’m eating deep dish right now.

        It was on sale at Costco.

        I ain’t gonna apologize.

        1. Deep dish what? Fetuses on foreskin?

          1. I can’t be sure what the sausage was made of, but it was very tender.

      3. Well its not pizza because its deep dish And its also not pizza because its Little Ceasars.

        1. Of course it’s not pizza, it’s pizza pizza. duh.

          1. my daughter worked there for a while and would bring home extras. I wouldn’t eat them and I love pizza. They are just horrible.

            1. They have one next to the Mexican grocery store I frequent. I got a Caesars pep a few months ago, and it was inedible.

              1. Do you know how Mexicans cut their pizza into slices?

                With Little Caesars.

                1. took me a second:)

    2. If only the bacon on the top was arranged into a picture of Muhammad…

  35. Offence and free speech.

    I find it incredibly worrying that we no longer need to hear the actual content of the thing we’re told to be offended by. We hear of people being arrested for tweets without the tweet being reported; comics are blasted for routines that aren’t printed; newspapers hire lip-readers to find something to get offended by at the tennis and then print the resulting fuckfest as asterisks. And who decides whether we should be outraged at something we haven’t seen or heard? The press. Our seething collective Id. None of us would trust a journalist to hold our pint while we went to the bathroom, yet we allow them to be ethical arbiters for the entire culture.

    1. Pretty good piece.

    2. Do you not understand how witch-hunts work? Only pussies need proof. What kind of wuss sits around reading and listening to shit when he could be burning a witch?

    3. Its not the same without the Scottish accent

  36. Jessica Williams tweets that she doesn’t want the Daily Show job because she doesn’t want to spend all her time dealing with politics and that she doesn’t yet have the experience to run a show that big.

    SJW decides to play armchair psychologist and accuses her of betraying women and minorities.

    Jessica Williams responds with epic rant.

    1. Good for her.

    2. Who? What? Daily Show?

      What the fuck is ‘lean in’?

      I glanced at that, and all i see = “liberal pissing match”

      1. I generally pay more attention when they lean in. The view is better.

    3. She is not funny to us non-conservatives. Neither is the other new guy Jordan Klepper. CC has a real problem on their hands.

    4. Yeah, that was sweet.

    5. How dare she not let white people decide what her career obligations are? Who does she think she is, an individual?

      But really, TDS’ audience is overwhelmingly white. They and a few black culture critics make a big fuss about making TV more diverse so TDS hires her.

      That’s not to say she isn’t talented or deserving, but that must stick in her craw somewhat to see her career be treated as affirmative action rather than recognition of her merits as a comedian.

      1. I kind of got the impression that her concern isn’t the comedy and performance aspects of the job so much that the host of the show is also the producer of the show and she probably doesn’t think that two years experience has given her enough experience with how the TV business works to know what the management part of the job involves yet.

      1. ..hire her for the Daily Show position?

        1. …roll her labia into two pink burritos jammed with vodka-laced marmalade and then suck that sweet pulp down with the same dollar bill you just did a long line of blow with?

          1. GOD DAMN!! Thought we were gonna try and keep it clean for the children…

            1. Well… now… unless the children like cake I cannot shake for the fukin cake, 1950 Crisco… fuking bro mama oven.

  37. While he still can

    http://www.nbc4i.com/story/281…..atal-wreck

  38. The Miracle of Minneapolis
    No other place mixes affordability, opportunity, and wealth so well. What’s its secret?

    http://m.theatlantic.com/magaz…..ource=SFFB

    1. All the bums froze to death or moved to Santa Monica?

      1. We still have bums. But they are tough fucking bums.

        1. What about Hotdish?

        2. Minneapolis is very liberal for the midwest, but it isn’t cosmopolitan enough to attract the really dedicated city planners and limousine liberals who make it truly impossible for anyone poorer than them to live in or near a city.

          1. Also, no tax on food and clothing is awesome. I really miss that.

          2. What?!?!!

            We have a fucking bike-ped coordinator we pay $68K to. http://www.startribune.com/loc…..60141.html

            The coordinator supervises a staff of three who work on bike and pedestrian planning and safe routes to schools.

            I think the main reason we remain somewhat affordable is that there is no natural boundary to the city’s growth. If you want a cheap house you can move way the fuck out in the country and commute in.

            1. I think all of the people from the Minnesota hinterlands play a role in that, too. You know, the ones who all sound like they were in the movie Fargo.

            2. That is pretty stupid, but Minneapolis still doesn’t have rent control, right? I don’t know about now, but when I was going to MCTC there in the mid ’00s I paid less than $650 for my one bedroom apartment that was within walking distance of downtown. Compared to any of the other major cities in the US that’s a huge bargain.

    2. Is it stadiums? I bet it is all the wonderful stadiums we built for the Gophers, the Vikings and the Twins. Fuck yeah! Everyone knows that stadiums are crucial to the economic health of any city.

  39. Canuckia getting tough with the greenies:

    The RCMP has labelled the “anti-petroleum” movement as a growing and violent threat to Canada’s security, raising fears among environmentalists that they face increased surveillance, and possibly worse, under the Harper government’s new terrorism legislation.

    In highly charged language that reflects the government’s hostility toward environmental activists, an RCMP intelligence assessment warns that foreign-funded groups are bent on blocking oil sands expansion and pipeline construction, and that the extremists in the movement are willing to resort to violence.

    1. Wonderful. What’s next if “TEH TURRURISTS!!11!1!” doesn’t work? Blasphemy?

  40. Vanilla Ice arrested on residential burglary, grand theft charges

    http://www.ajc.com/news/entert…..and/nkDgN/

    1. So he finally got indicted for stealing Queen’s “Pressure” bassline?

      1. Game, set, match. Stormy wins the Internet.

    2. the actual charges are funny

      he robbed his neighbor’s foreclosed house. for the pool heater.

      Even if he’s white = that’s some proper ghetto shit.

      1. Smart that he lives in FL. Homestead clause

      2. There is nothing that says white people can’t be ghetto fabulous

        1. “Livin ghetto-fabulous, so mad, you just can’t take it
          But nigga if you hatin I
          then you wait while I get yo’ bitch butt-naked, just break it”

          Shit just got real.

  41. some people may not realize they face a penalty for not having coverage until they file their tax returns in coming weeks. HHS will decide within the next two weeks whether to allow another special enrollment period for consumers.

    With all due respect, what makes HHS think, um, some people will realize it *this* time?

    1. All I had to do was check “I couldn’t afford it” and bam, no penalty. I can’t imagine they’ll come after me either.

      1. That really sounds like a serious problem with them enforcing this if all you have to do is check a box that you can’t afford it.

        I mean a lot of people are really dumb, but I’m sure that a vast majority will figure that out soon enough.

        Although Hillarys ButtPlug has already assured everyone that the law doesn’t need the penaltax.

  42. Those guys do not seem to have a clue man. Wow.

    http://www.AnonWeb.cf

  43. Western civilization is f***ed.

    1. The Mayans fucked civilization. So did the fucking Romans. And the fucking Greeks. And the fucking Egyptians. And fucking Constantinople. And those fucking hideous goddamn Catholics… And finally it seems the fucking communists, Republicans, socialists, and fucking horrid Islam is fucking civilization in recent times…

      Civilization seems to be a long-term beehive of fuckedupedness.

      1. The Mayans fucked civilization

        Yeah, but they had wireless technology.

      2. So Planet of the Apes wasn’t really dystopian.

        1. Some people luv that chacha monkee babe

      3. Those were all states you described, civilization is something separate from a state and persisted after the fall of various states.

  44. Regarding the picture, I had no idea Imelda Marcos was still alive.

    But seriously, I’ve seen more pics of Biden talking to someone who is not looking at him….. what’s up with that?

    1. “‘ve seen more pics of Biden talking to someone who is not looking at him….”

      Would You?

      It just encourages him.

  45. So I just saw that the NH and IA 2016 presidential primaries will be in JANUARY… anybody else find that ridiculous?

    1. Been that way since 2004.

  46. Jack Lew has been telling Greece to make a deal. Shouldn’t this upset the non-interventionists?

  47. There’s also a lot of “I’m going to be in your town. Let’s grab a drink” going on. If you’re ever in LA you should let us know. We have a fairly robust social group here.

    Is there a SE PA group?

    1. That sounds like an AM Links kind of question.

    2. Well, Im fairly sure there is no S by SW (officially known as Yinzer Territory) PA group.

  48. Whiskey is good and is the medicine for those who choose to fucking break out of parallel verses.

    1. Johnny Walker’s greatest coup was settling on a name the rest of the world could pronounce.

      1. Quincy is the one more pour dear.

  49. Is vodka vicious as that? Maybe people think and drink and swink into the aft obtuse… and the more they walk and talk that what becomes swhy and swhere and o fuckin jesus… you fuckin whore dude….

    Roads stretch into a sleepless blight of exposed mind rays…

  50. Can these envelopes on the great web understand that recent world does not match old worlds and the odd world in the musty pasty past is creaky and hard to understand but those plural acts in the tunnels into the old and dead genius is oft far fucking more improved over these new transitions- so bad bad whiskey is a hearken unto the old gems of dead dancing…

  51. my neuros transmit and yet yield to reality but nothing is like a loneliness on a planet in the present future….

    Roll her home tonight but no one can… well cuz I got drunk and cheated on my girl on that planet I canno name… dear darling swarm

    Maybe there is a bus that rolls from plano to plano cuz this sun is frunk enough to roll with some shit that ain’t an inch from my baby and the vortex they say to new york from that fuckin planet is about 50 buks….

  52. So the trumpet spaceshop learns into the groove…

  53. Dont sit around and get old and gray like e.t…. have a real real good time where that swinky bitch e.t. finally learns to get hard and get drunk and fuk old e.t. bitches…. lets have an e.t. time and watch e.t. fuck somefuking extual alien vag…

  54. Dont sit around and get old and gray like e.t…. have a real real good time where that swinky bitch e.t. finally learns to get hard and get drunk and fuk old e.t. bitches…. lets have an e.t. time and watch e.t. fuck somefuking extual alien vag…

  55. Dont sit around and get old and gray like e.t…. have a real real good time where that swinky bitch e.t. finally learns to get hard and get drunk and fuk old e.t. bitches…. lets have an e.t. time and watch e.t. fuck somefuking extual alien vag…

  56. Dont sit around and get old and gray like e.t…. have a real real good time where that swinky bitch e.t. finally learns to get hard and get drunk and fuk old e.t. bitches…. lets have an e.t. time and watch e.t. fuck somefuking extual alien vag…

  57. Dont sit around and get old and gray like e.t…. have a real real good time where that swinky bitch e.t. finally learns to get hard and get drunk and fuk old e.t. bitches…. lets have an e.t. time and watch e.t. fuck somefuking extual alien vag…

  58. Dont sit around and get old and gray like e.t…. have a real real good time where that swinky bitch e.t. finally learns to get hard and get drunk and fuk old e.t. bitches…. lets have an e.t. time and watch e.t. fuck somefuking extual alien vag…

  59. Take a quallude and chill, bro.

  60. Six months ago I lost my job and after that I was fortunate enough to stumble upon a great website which literally saved me. I started working for them online and in a short time after I’ve started averaging 15k a month… The best thing was that cause I am not that computer savvy all I needed was some basic typing skills and internet access to start…
    This is where to start???.

    ?????????? http://www.netpay20.com

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