Protests, Arrests, Explosions, Venezuela Boiling Over? How Long Would You Wait in Line for Diapers if You Weren't a Government Spokesperson?
An increasingly dire economic situation caused by Venezuela's socialist government is leading to renewed protests


Oil prices have tumbled in recent weeks. It sent Venezuela's president, Nicolas Maduro, to Riyadh to beg Saudi Arabia and other members of OPEC to cut production and bring prices back up. As the Saudi prince Alwaleed bin Talal explained "had Saudi Arabia cut its production by 1 or 2 million barrels, that 1 or 2 million would have been produced by others." Prices are going down despite OPEC, not because of it, so Maduro is unlikely to find relief there. Relief he needs because his government's socialist chavista polices have caused shortages of everything from potatoes to toilet paper. Petrol revenue once oiled the machinery of the government, providing it the money needed to keep people from feeling the ill effects of the government's economic interventionism. Hugo Chavez's charisma probably helped too.
Food Minister Yván Bello Rojas explains what the real problem in Venezuela is, via Business Insider:
"I've been in tons of lines. I went to my favorite sports team's game this weekend, and I had to get in line to get a parking space. I got in line to buy my ticket. And then … I made a line to get into the stadium. And you know what, I made a line to find my seat. And then you know what," Bello finished with satisfaction, "I went to go buy an arepa [Venezuelan sandwich] … and I had to wait in line there, too."
Reporter Ana Vanessa Herrero then asked him about a woman she'd recently interviewed who was looking for diapers for two days and couldn't find them.
"She's exaggerating," he said, "no one would wait in line for six days for anything," he added, interrupting the chorus of reporters throwing out anecdotes to the contrary.
Earlier in the seven-minute interview Bello explained the shortage problem was not due to an unbalanced Venezuelan economy manipulated by government price regulation and bloated by government spending, but due to issues with distribution.
"The same people can't just go and buy the same products every day," Rojas said matter-of-factly, adding that one person couldn't possibly buy one gallon of milk per day, for example, even if they had the money to do it. "More than anything [the shortage] is a distribution problem because if any government has done their homework on food, it's this Bolivaran government."
The problem is with centralization, a feature of Bolivarian and all other forms of command economy. The "critics are exagerrating" defense sounds familiar.
The self-inflicted economic crisis has led to renewed protests. Reuters reports:
Police rounded up 16 people for protesting in front of stores over the weekend, according to the opposition MUD coalition, which said four of them were released shortly after.
Rights group Penal Forum said 18 protesters were still behind bars on Monday. The government did not confirm that…
The MUD also accused soldiers posted outside shops of banning photos of the lines, which sometimes snake around blocks.
"Not only is the government forcing people to get into humiliating queues … it also wants the lines to be Cuban-style, silent and terrified," said MUD chief Jesus Torrealba.
On Saturday, an explosive device was thrown into a building of the state phone company Cantv in southeastern Puerto Ordaz city, burning eight vehicles, the government said. In western San Cristobal, six masked men threw a molotov cocktail into a parked bus belonging to a local university, students said on Monday.
Venezuela's nominally democratic government is likely to use reports of violence to try to silence the wider opposition to its destructive policies, having seen a period of extended, mass protests early last year.
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"It sent Venezuela's president, Nicolas Maduro, to Riyadh to beg Saudi Arabia and other members of OPEC to cut production and bring prices back up."
Well, this won't help! Lefties swear supply and demand have no effect on prices; they're set by evulllll KKKapitlaists!
Inevitable. I'm just surprised they'd allow media to ask questions at all.
Years ago there was an article about libraries in Venezuela delivering books via burro to rural areas. I noted that's what the US did during the great depression. So, at that time they were only about 70 years behind us. Now it's got to be 150- easy.
Let's hope there's something to rebuild from the ashes and as few people die as possible in the ensuing struggles.
Inevitable. Exactly.
I love it.
Reporter Ana Vanessa Herrero then asked him about a woman she'd recently interviewed who was looking for diapers for two days and couldn't find them.
"She's exaggerating," he said, "no one would wait in line for six days for anything," he added, interrupting the chorus of reporters throwing out anecdotes to the contrary.
Couldn't they at least find a competent shill?
two days is the same as six days, apparently.
Stop using your corrupt, capitalist math!
Math is racist too.
I'd stand in line to look at Yv?n Bello Rojas hanging from a lamppost.
The fact that there are any Chavista officials left unhanged is all the evidence one needs that Venezuelans are idiots.
As has been said, there's never an "a-ha" moment.
That, and Venezuelans are unarmed.
I love how he pretty much admits that Venezuelans are too broke to afford however much a gallon of milk costs there each day, be it due to lousy income or outrageous inflation. Pretty entertaining guy as far as TOP MEN are concerned. Baghdad Bob quality even.
one person couldn't possibly buy one gallon of milk per day, for example, even if they had the money to do it.
Most people in most of the non-socialist world can, both from an availability standpoint, and from being able to afford it.
Such beautiful women; such ugly governance.
"nominally democratic"?
This is what joe says democracy is like!
Its a shining example of democracy in action!
This is why Joe left... playing defense sucks.
The problem is with centralization, a feature of Bolivarian and all other forms of command economy.
We need to keep things in perspective and examine what the true root causes of the current crisis in Venezuela are.
The author is laughably wrong with his hysteria regarding centralization.
Wow, a real, live Bolivarian Apologist!
Seldom seen outside captivity!
Swiss Servator, Winter...jetzt|1.12.15 @ 6:33PM|#
Wow, a real, live Bolivarian Apologist!
Seldom seen outside captivity!
So you refute the facts I brought to the table by calling me crazy. Poverty cut in half and extreme poverty cut by 70%. This is just a pathetic attempt at discrediting the poster and ignoring the post. We understand and were expecting this because we know you can't refute the successes of the Venezuelan government
So people were "lifted out of poverty", but basic necessities of modern life, things that are practically dime a dozen everywhere else in the world cannot be found on any shelves.
I don't think you understand what the word "poverty" means.
kbolino|1.12.15 @ 6:49PM|#
So people were "lifted out of poverty", but basic necessities of modern life, things that are practically dime a dozen everywhere else in the world cannot be found on any shelves.
FTA:
The media lies and exaggerates. Also, I already identified the most significant source of the problem: grievances have been deliberately escalated by the oligarchic elite itself...
Who needs a politburo with apologists like you?
You're disgusting "blimp". It won't be a shadowy, "oligarchic elite" that are dangling from posts when the Venezuelan people are done being hungry and going without the basics of civilization. It will be the chavistas and authoritarian boot-lickers like yourself getting their necks stretched. I only hope it happens sooner than later, for Venezuela's sake.
Horatio|1.12.15 @ 7:18PM|#
it won't be a shadowy, "oligarchic elite" that are dangling from posts when the Venezuelan people are done being hungry and going without the basics of civilization. It will be the chavistas and authoritarian boot-lickers like yourself getting their necks stretched.
I disagree. You may think that but that is because you believe the lies perpetuated by the press.
Protests are initiated by ultra-right factions of the opposition in the hope of an eventual systemic overhaul.
By your meaningless definition, the Socialist Party of France would be "ultra-right". Apparently, it is "ultra-right" to want to find diapers for your child or to watch a TV station that isn't forced to fellate Chavez's corpse all day long.
Yeah, it's "disingenuous" to point out the complete and utter destruction of the Venezuelan economy that has happened since Chavez turned the country into a petro-socialist backwater.
Yeah, the people are just unhappy because the bad, bad press told them to be. It can't be that the people know the situation from personal experience and are unhappy with the government over that situation. Certainly not!
Another socialist dictatorship fails but the socialist apologizers claim it's all right-wing propaganda.
Ah, "hoarders, kulaks and wreckers"!
Where have we heard that one before...?
This is just the continuation of America's foreign policy: Hostile intervention intended to serve the interest of their true masters.
From the first link:
right-libertarian CATO Institute
Well, that about sums up the accuracy of the rest, I'm sure.
Holy shit, thats like a parody of leftist apologists. It is the same every time.
Socialism runs out of other peoples money ( I love how they always run out of toilet paper). Productive people flee to elsewhere. Defenders blame wreckers, hoarders, foreign devils, and kulaks. Defenders tell everyone things are actually better than they were before. Lastly, things descend into a hellish nightmare wherein the commies are dragged through the street and hanged.
With the economy in shambles and suffering from a brain-drain, how long before Venezuela agains resembles anything like a second-world country?
I especially like this bit - "While there is no evidence......it is publicly known that......"
Priceless.
Suthenboy|1.12.15 @ 6:57PM|#
Socialism runs out of other peoples money
You got this backwards.
This paper looks at some of the most important economic and social indicators during the 10 years of the Ch?vez administration in Venezuela
cont
"The current economic expansion began when the government got control over the national oil company in the first quarter of 2003"
Now mothers can't get diapers. Nothing to do with oil, right? I'm all for avoiding the causation/correlation trap, but this one is so clear even a socialist apologist can stop sucking chavista taint for 2 seconds and figure it out.
Horatio|1.12.15 @ 7:23PM|#
Nothing to do with oil, right?
You are forgetting something:
Most of this growth has been in the non-oil sector of the economy, and the private sector has grown faster than the public sector.
What private sector? The government can and will confiscate "excess" capital on a whim. Furthermore, much of that "growth" was fueled by high government spending, which has driven inflation through the roof.
Poverty reduction under Chavez was about on a par with the rest of South America and was comparable to similar periods of high oil prices under other governments. In 2014 the Venezuelan economy actually CONTRACTED, and Venezuela is one of the few countries in the region where poverty is on the rise. Newsflash: rigid price controls create scarcity. This is not rocket science, nor is it a vast conspiracy by the international capitalist oligarchy. It's something economists have known for centuries, yet somehow the concept is lost on the bus driver and borderline retard currently running things in Venezuela (and on his starry-eyed online apologists, apparently). But keep that cherry-picked data coming. The skyrocketing inflation, jailing and torture of dissidents and everything else are just a figment of our imagination induced by the international (read non-Bolivarian-funded) media.
Suthenboy|1.12.15 @ 6:57PM|#
Holy shit, thats like a parody of leftist apologists. It is the same every time.
You know what really is the same every time for libertarians. Ignoring all the facts I just posted and making personal attacks against anyone who goes against dogma and shows the flaws of your ideology.
What facts? Half the country's dependent on the government and the other half is running out of money to pay for it?
You don't have anything to say on the shortages, except to call people who can't find diapers for their children liars and to post meaningless statistics.
The country's inflation is over 50% which is rapidly erasing whatever GDP gains happened over the last decade.
Venezuela basically exports nothing but oil. The country is being deforested at a rate of over 2 million hectares per decade. There's no foreign investment (apart from Cuba) because investors have no confidence that their capital won't be confiscated by the government.
Yeah, it's a goddamn paradise and we libertarians just can't handle it.
People starving, unable to obtain basic necessities, being hauled off to gulags for disagreeing with the state, and - most tellingly - fleeing in droves for countries with less socialism starkly show the flaws in YOUR ideology.
How many times does marxism and socialism have to end in the tears and death of the proletariat before you apologists can feel shame? When authoritarian cunts like you are treated with even half the disdain directed towards racists the world will be a much better place.
Jesus Torrealba.
What, not "The Prophet Jesus Torrealba?"
...
Too soon?
Elts roll with it man.
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