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Microsoft Embraces Bitcoins as a Payment Option

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When major corporations embrace currency associated with anarchism … what happens?
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You can now buy digital content for a Windows Phone with bitcoins. Nobody has or wants a Windows Phone, apparently, but fortunately you can also buy things from Microsoft you may actually want with bitcoins, too.

Microsoft is now accepting bitcoins as a payment option for "apps, games, and other digital content from Windows, Windows Phone, Xbox Games, Xbox Music, or Xbox Video stores." You can't buy physical products or services yet, you can only use bitcoins in the United States, and if you purchase something with bitcoins, they cannot be refunded. But it's a start.

Remember how earlier in the year, after prominent bitcoin exchange Mt. Gox was hacked and collapsed and the value of bitcoins plunged, people declared the virtual currency dead or at least doomed? The price has continued to go down—a bitcoin is now worth about a quarter of what it used to be at the start of the year ($335 today as opposed to $1,100).  But we're seeing it accepted in more and more places.

Engaget notes that other tech consumer companies, like Dell, have embraced bitcoins as well, but Amazon is still resistant. Be sure to check out Reason's December issue for a look at the future of money.

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  1. If only Microsoft offered something worth buying.

    1. Minecraft DLC?

    2. 2edgy4me

      1. Seriously?

        1. Seriously.

          1. Well that’s jus silly of you Carl.

  2. Microsoft is seriously expecting people into cryptocurrency to buy their shit?

    Good God, they’re stupider than I thought, which is a hell of a feat after Windows 8.

    1. You basically have to pay the “windows tax” if you want to play PC games.

      So yeah I might buy windows from either newegg or direct from microsoft using bitcoin soon, as i am pretty disappointed with gaming on Linux.

      1. Is it at least still possible to get W7 and not that train wreck W8?

        Linux not working out? That’s too bad. The neck beards have to understand that if they want their free, paradigm-breaking stuff to break paradigms, it has to work.

        1. Huh? Steam still is pretty much all in on Linux (at least Ubuntu and derivatives).

          I don’t know what you’re talking about with free, paradigm-breaking stuff. You generally still have to pay for most games, as they’re proprietary as shit.

          1. I meant like free OS like Linux.

            1. Yeah, that didn’t clarify your statement at all.

              1. I’m a little tired so here goes again. Linux is envisioned by many supporters as this free collaborative software that will displace the established players. But for this to happen, it can’t just be ‘cutting edge’, it has to be usable for common things like gaming.

                1. Dafuq, Cyto? Linux is envisioned by some people as being well-established enough in several important computing spaces (like, say, the server room, where it’s not even a contest between Linux and other OSes) that it can move into the gaming space with more confidence.

                  It’s already usable for just about every “common” thing you can imagine with the EXCEPTION of gaming. It’s dominant in several of them.

                  “Cutting edge” describes Fedora and a few other distros, though not in the narrow way you’re thinking of the term.

                  It’s already usable for gaming, even. Quite usable. It lacks the AAA titles that the other platforms do, which is no surprise at all, since the established CONSUMER gaming base is full of the other platforms. Yet, if the game is sufficiently popular or has been out long enough, it’s going to be perfectly playable on Linux even without an official port (the aforementioned Wine).

            2. Ubuntu and SteamOS are both linux and are both free.

              I can try to explain this all to you but i will probably get stuff wrong and or explain it horribly. Just look up linux on Wikipedia and read about it.

              1. Fair enough. SteamOS is super intriguing I love what Valve’s doing. Is SteamOS just for getting your TV to work with your computer? What exactly is it for?

                1. What exactly is it for?

                  Yeah I think the plan is to use linux to make a steam powered console market to compete against other consoles.

                  I suspect it will not work unless Valve makes some sort of killer game that only works on SteamOS. That is how they got Steam to break into the market with Half Life 2. One cool thing though is that by simply trying Valve is getting more devs to make Linux ports.

                  1. I think Valve should forget about getting its own console and just focus on destroying consoles. This gen has been a joke. If I can BlueTooth connect my computer to my TV and a controller (Valve is making a controller!) and/or better yet a VR machine, then consoles are fucked. Sell your Sony shares because gaming is the only division of Sony not bleeding red ink.

                    1. This gen has been a joke.

                      Can’t argue with you there. Even if they get their stride back and start getting more games they seem to be up against a 30 frames per second max wall which just does not cut it at all.

        2. Linux not working out? That’s too bad. The neck beards have to understand that if they want their free, paradigm-breaking stuff to break paradigms, it has to work.

          Wow, you really do embody the insufferable Apple fanboy stereotype.

          1. I hate Apple and I was not being facetious although I can see how you could misconstrue it that way. I am was interested in Linux, genuinely think it is too bad it doesn’t work for gaming, and am consternated that the nerds who love Linux and things like it don’t seem to understand that stuff has gotta work.

            1. Fair enough; I thought I remembered you waxing lyrically about Apple in other threads, but I guess I was mistaken.

              1. You are WAY mistaken. At this point I hate Microsoft and Apple.

              2. You are probably thinking of me.

                I like MacOS and their hardware lasts for fucking ever. Way better then PCs in terms of not breaking down at least in my experience.

                I also own an iPhone. It is an old one so android was not really around when I got it. Today I would get an android just because it is cheaper I think. Still my old iPhone works just fine for me.

                1. Yes, I was. I get you and Cytotoxic confused very frequently, probably to your mutual chagrin.

                  1. I get you and Cytotoxic confused very frequently

                    You confuse me with a millennial warhawk Canuck….

                    No idea what to say to that.

                2. their hardware lasts for fucking ever.

                  Too bad you can’t upgrade an Apple machine and it costs approximately RAPE.

                  1. it costs approximately RAPE.

                    Yeah…that is why i am on linux now.

                    you can’t upgrade an Apple machine

                    yeah I suppose. I still have not ever really successfully upgraded a PC where it made any financial sense over just buying a new one. I mean aside from a ram upgrade which you can do with with a Mac.

                    I am going to attempt an upgrade soon though so I guess i will see.

                    1. I still have not ever really successfully upgraded a PC where it made any financial sense over just buying a new one.

                      Are you serious? I kind of upgrade on a rolling, when-I-feel-like-it schedule. Rarely do I buy a new CPU/mobo combo (which usually comes with a case, PS, HDD, optical drive, too) unless Tiger is basically throwing it at me.

                3. I hardly ever have any of my hardware break down in any discernible way. I had one motherboard blow a capacitor one time ever because of an old, dodgy power supply. The things that do break tend to be optical drives, which are dead cheap these days, and occasionally the huge, super-cheap mechanical hard drives they’re cranking out now (but they’re commodity-priced these days, so…).

      2. Not really.

        I mean, if you simply MUST have the best AAA games right the fuck now, then yes.

        Then again, Steam is supporting more and more native Linux games all the time. I must confess that it’s been a very long time since I’ve prioritized playing games, and my tastes and preferences are relatively non-demanding, but Linux is just fine for quite a bit of gaming.

        In fact, Half Life 2, Portal, and Civ 5 ran better through Wine (via Steam) than they did on exactly the same hardware under native Windows as recently as 3 years ago. I know Half Life 2 and Portal aren’t exactly state of the art shooters, and Civ 5 is just a turn-based strategy game, but it says something that they undoubtedly all ran smoother.

        Once they got HL2 & Portal ported to Linux natively, it got even better. I ride my hardware beyond reason, time-wise, and keeping Windows away from it has actually been pretty nice.

        1. I want to play Elite and Endless legend.

          Elite will never come to linux and Endless Legend probably never will.

          1. Oh, really?

            David Braben has also answered questions about a potential Linux port to Tux Radar, Linux Format magazine web portal. In an interview, while not confirming a Linux port, he said that the Linux platform is something they are seriously looking at to support and that there is no reason why COBRA, Frontier Developments’ own game engine, can’t run on Linux, running through OpenGL.

            1. while not confirming a Linux port

              How many times I have heard that over the past 15 years?

              Too fucking many.

              In a world where devs promise Linux ports that never come i really do not want to pin my hopes on a hint and a wink.

              In fact if it is only a hint and a wink my experience is that means no linix port ever.

              1. Depending on how impatient you are and if the game is truly popular, you can wait for the Wine community to take care of it. Of course, like I said, I’m very not picky when it comes to gaming, since I so rarely get to devote any time to it.

        2. Yeah but I want to play things like Crysis and SkyRim too. And Half-Life 3 if human civilization still exists when it comes out.

          1. Pretty sure SkyRim is playable through Wine (and maybe has been for a while). Don’t know for certain.

            HL3 would almost certainly have a native port soon after initial release.

            Not sure about Crysis, but I imagine it’s Wine-able.

  3. “Nobody has or wants a Windows Phone, apparently”
    Wow, half the comments on the article you linked to are accusing the writer of censoring dissenting views. That’s a good sign.

    1. Heh.

      Looks like the author pissed off #gamergate at some point.

  4. Remember how earlier in the year, after prominent bitcoin exchange Mt. Gox was hacked and collapsed and the value of bitcoins plunged, people declared the virtual currency dead or at least doomed?

    …and plenty of people confused equating it with any other novelty with being doomed while still others noted that even if perfectly healthy, it has been so far mutated from any original principles that it no longer stands, on it’s own, as some sort of revolutionary instrument of socio-economic freedom.

    1. it has been so far mutated from any original principles that it no longer stands, on it’s own, as some sort of revolutionary instrument of socio-economic freedom.

      And others pointed this out as complete nonsense.

      1. You’re perfectly correct. I’m sure everyone using BTC to get their XBoxes and Microsoft Phones will reap the utter joys of being part of a decentralized economy, free from government surveillance and exorbitant exchange fees, and there’s no unreasonable or arbitrary barriers to entry.

        I’m certain BTC arbitration with Microsoft will work smashingly and TBTF, currency manipulation, etc. are things of the past.

        1. BTC is the economic equivalent of body cameras for police except fewer people are watching and it’s harder to convince the average person that the Eric Garners of the world are being choked to death.

          1. Body cameras for police have been a success where implemented. So yeah thanks for making my point. Next time, read your stupid posts before you make them.

            1. Body cameras for police have been a success where implemented.

              And Bitcoin? As near as I can tell it’s taking it’s time to kill wire transfers and physical personal checks.

              1. Yeah, and we still had fax machines in 1995 so I guess Krugman was right about the internet.

                1. I’m unaware of anything Krugman has said about the internet or BTC if I’m giving any impression of sharing an opinion with him.

                  I’m not saying BTC will fail. I’m saying that any claim you make about just about any of it’s features have been overcome by statists and/or black hats or is marginally superior to the cash equivalent anyway. That doesn’t make it any worse than cash, but it doesn’t really make it better in any revolutionary sense. More explicitly, it’s a modestly-successful M0 tool that I routinely see used to explain away M1 (and higher) problems.

                  I also see a lot fo the standard ignorance/diregard of rubber-hose cryptography with a little novelty and Marxist optimistic economic redistribution mixed in.

                  1. I’m saying that any claim you make about just about any of it’s features have been overcome by statists and/or black hats or is marginally superior to the cash equivalent anyway.

                    And you’re completely wrong. There is no evidence that BTC has been ‘beaten’ into submission whatsoever.

                    1. I’m saying misrepresented/misunderstood. Not on top and already eroding or showing (the same old) faults would be a better characterization than ‘beaten down’.

  5. and if you purchase something with bitcoins, they cannot be refunded.

    Damn near impossible to get a refund on any piece of software from any company let alone Microsoft so this is not a very big deal.

  6. soon microsoft will accept payment for MS office 2010 product key 😀

  7. Yes! it’s a great news.

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