Will Bipartisan Opposition Kill the Cromnibus?

Will the cromnibus—the $1.1 trillion spending bill intended to fund the government through next September and avoid a government shutdown—actually pass?
The general assumption yesterday was that the law would make it through the House today with votes from both sides of the aisle.
But after lawmakers spent the day pouring over the newly-published text of the proposal, the fate of the massive spending bill is now in doubt: Some conservatives are upset because the bill doesn't block President Obama's executive action on immigration, and some liberals don't like a provision that alters the way Dodd-Frank regulates derivatives. Opposition from both parties might end up killing a bill that was supposed to pass with bipartisan support.
GOP complaints that the bill doesn't block Obama's immigration action tend to conveniently ignore a rather significant problem: Congress doesn't have the power to block Obama's action through the appropriations process (the cromnibus is mostly a combined appropriations bill). As Rep. Hal Rogers, the Republican chair of the House Appropriations Committee, explained last month, "the Appropriations process cannot be used to 'de-fund' the agency" that is tasked with carrying out the action. The agency can fund its work through user fees without approval from Congress—and could even do so in the event of a government shutdown.
(The idea that the immigration action can be stopped by defunding closely resembles the idea that went around last year that Congress could stop Obamacare by defunding it. In October of 2013, the government shut down; Obamacare's exchanges crashed on opening, but not because Republicans had taken it out through the budget process.)
The objection to the cromnibus from the left has to do with a relatively obscure rule in Dodd-Frank regulating derivatives known as the swaps push-out provision. Under the rule, some types of derivatives would have to be moved to financial entities that aren't protected by government backing. The change included in the cromnibus would allow some of those derivatives to stay in house. For more details, the Republican Study Committee's legislative bulletin is worth reading. Rep. Jeb Hensarling (R-Texas) makes the case for the change here.
The liberal objection to the bill, led by Sen. Elizabeth Warren, is basically that it defangs the financial regulations in Dodd-Frank. Complicating liberal opposition, however, is that the White House came out in favor of the cromnibus today, noting that it didn't like the derivatives provision but was supportive overall.
What we're seeing, then, is a test of White House influence over the Democratic party. The administration wants the cromnibus to pass; there are a number of Democrats who would be content to let it die. According to Politico, Democratic House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, who has voiced strong objections to the derivatives rule change, "has privately mused that a three-month continuing resolution might actually be better for Democrats."
That would not necessarily mean a shutdown, however. If the cromnibus spending bill falls apart, House Republicans have some backup plans, including a three month continuing resolution (CR), which would punt the funding fight into the next Congress, or perhaps a one-week extension allowing more time to get a vote together before the end of the year. (Republicans reportedly said this afternoon that the three-month CR is the go-to alternative.)
At this particular moment, though, it's all up in the air. The House is currently in recess, which means a vote on the cromnibus has been postponed, although GOP leadership still says a vote will likely happen sometime today.
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KILL IT! KILL IT WITH FIRE!!!
See also, "No, fuck you, cut spending!"
If they kill the cromnibus, it will just come back almost exactly as before.
A zomnibus if you will.
Revenantubus.
+1 pitchforks and torches
We have to kill it to find out what's in it?
+1 Augury
"I want you to choke me off with this tie later."
"And then I told them: Of COURSE I oppose a bigger government!"
I certainly hope so.
Barry wants it passed because having a budget fight with a Team Red congress next spring is a headache he doesn't want.
Am I the only one who thinks of a cronut every time I see the word "cromnibus"?
I always interpret it as a bus full of/ packed with free shit for cronies.
Or one of the lesser known transformers.
Yes, it reads like Crony Bus.
It just makes me think of this.
Clearly I watch too many cartoons.
Here's what I think of
Here's a good one to kill as well. Adds yet another reason to really like Amash.
Congressional Fun
Crom, I have never prayed to you before. I have no tongue for it. No one, not even you, will remember if we were good men or bad. Why we fought, or why we died. All that matters is that two stood against many. That's what's important! Valor pleases you, Crom... so grant me one request. Grant me AUSTERITY! And if you do not listen, then to HELL with you!
Do you want to spend forever?
I love you guys.
my neighbor's mother makes $67 /hr on the internet . She has been out of work for 5 months but last month her pay was $16448 just working on the internet for a few hours. see here......
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245 hours of work in a month? What kind of slave work is your neighbor's mother doing?
Monocle intertwining
So, she worked 8 to 5 every single day in November?
I'd at least want weekends off, jerk.
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As Rep. Hal Rogers, the Republican chair of the House Appropriations Committee, explained last month, "the Appropriations process cannot be used to 'de-fund' the agency" that is tasked with carrying out the action.
So Congress has absolutely no authority over how much an agency spends and what it spends it on? I doubt that.
The agency can fund its work through user fees without approval from Congress?and could even do so in the event of a government shutdown.
Why can't Congress say that the agency is prohibited from spending any funds, regardless of the source, and that anyone who does so has committed felony misappropriation of government assets?
As for the weaselly reference to "the appropriations process": is there a Constitutional prohibition on a bill that appropriates funds also directing how much, from what source, and how the agency spends money? No? I didn't think so.
If they wanted to stop this, they could. They just don't want to.
So in short, the Congressional appropriations process is used to fund government activities, but cannot be used to defund government activities. Brilliant. Is this part of the statist "ratchet effect" I've heard about?
??_??
(Why does Reason insist comments must be in English? Nativists!)
Ooooh... monocles!
Lesson here: never give them time to read the bill. It just leads to a cromnibustle in your hedgerow.
I want a crumbnibus, in which government is funded by mere crumbs.
What's up with the green ties?
You wear them on Tuesday to let the other guys on the down low know that you are DTF.
Down to fund?
Debt the Fuck?
DTFTT
Down to fuck the taxpayer.
The Color of Money?
Are they trolling for Lo Pan? "There are two girls with green ties, and I will marry them both."
They were having "Drunk as Stupid, Potatoheaded Micks" Night at the Fraternity house.
Cromnibus? What's that supposed to mean? Several [ hundred ] cronies?
Continuing resolution omnibus.
Don't be facetious jeffrey.
C R omnibus. Isn't that clever.
Why would the Republicans want to pass a spending bill now. Why not wait until January when they have the majority in both houses?
Because having the Senate in Dem hands gives them cover for doing things they know their supporters hate.
NAILED IT!
It is the Warren emo-prog faction vs the liberal Obama faction on the Dodd-Frank rider.
Fun stuff.
But after lawmakers spent the day pouring over the newly-published text of the proposal,
Pouring what?
Precious bodily fluids?
The way they're pouring em around, I don't think they're precious.
They create them through deficit ejaculation.
Cumnibus?
You got that right...
The lawmakers have become so shifty they have all the properties of a liquid.
Wait,wait,wait,are you saying they took time to READ the bill? When did they start this.I thought they pass a bill then bitch about it later.
They're getting practice in for next year.
lawmakers spent the day pouring over the newly-published text
Who on earth actually believes this?
*does not raise hand*
As royalty they may have had their aides do it, but even that seems unlikely.
The agency can fund its work through user fees without approval from Congress?and could even do so in the event of a government shutdown.
If government is shut down, all Federal laws are rendered null and void, all court precedents are null and void, all federal prisoners are freed, and we just have the Constitution and have to start legislation all over again.
I have a dream.
Your ideas are intriguing to me and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter.
+1 newsletter
Waiting for the documentary?..oh, pleeeeeese?..
Of course congress can defund any federal agency, whether that agency collects funds through fees or otherwise. The idea that any federal agency can spend the funds it collects without congressional authorization is ludicrous. If it were true the IRS would spend all the tax revenue it collects as the director sees fit, and cutting the IRS budget would be impossible. Yet cromnibus does cut the IRS budget and could do the same to Homeland theatre
Intriguing that the IRS was cut?I thought they have been screaming for year about being underfunded. Some internal turmoil in the exec branch? Do tell?.
"pouring over"
No, poring over.
FIFY.
"pouring" ???? really!?!?!?!? "Senior Editor"?????? Really !?!?!?!?!?
Try "poring".
Except for Boehner of course, who most likely was pouring as well.
"'Jack' what? I'm supposed to buy this shit? 2000 years, he can't find one broad to fit the bill? Come on, Dave, you must be doing something seriously wrong!"
Who?
"Its all in the reflexes"
Jack Burton. Me!
"Honey, I never drive faster than I can see."