Jon Stewart Apologizes for Not Voting Joke, Doesn't Find Anything Funny About Democrats Losing

Comedian Jon Stewart, anchor of the satirical Daily Show, apologized today for making a joke about not voting—low hanging fruit on Election day—during a CNN interview yesterday. He said he did vote and called his comment "stupid." NPR reports on the struggle liberal comedians had making fun of Tuesday night's Democratic losses:
"Look, I'm trying to find any way to entertain people who are truly on a ledge tonight," Stewart joked at one point, just before promising to replace the Statue of Liberty's torch and tablet with a Bible and an AK-47 to signal the GOP's success.
The evening seemed to highlight the limits of news-tinged satire on the political scene, as HBO comic Bill Maher's public effort to oust Republican U.S. Rep. John Kline — referred to on his show Real Time as the "flip a district" campaign — also failed.
Kline, whom Maher criticized for being "invisible" while representing a district outside Minneapolis, won his seventh term in office Tuesday despite repeated criticism from the comic, who devoted a website to the effort and even visited the state for a panel discussion on the election.
NPR also pointed out a segment where Stewart made fun of the influence of money in politics:
Rob Riggle played a stack of cash giddily celebrating the dollar's role in the most expensive midterm election in history — and [Stewart] interviewed Republican National Committee Chairman Reince Priebus.
"Were you surprised that the Democrats' strategy seemed to be curling in a ball and hoping you didn't kick them in the face too hard?" Stewart asked Priebus, setting the tone for the rest of the interview.
That David and Goliath set-up Stewart uses for Democrats and Republicans when it comes to campaign spending is rich. Unions, for example, spent a lot trying to kick guys like Scott Walker, the Republican governor of Wisconsin targeted for his public sector reforms, in the face but failed. More low hanging fruit for the echo chamber that makes up a large portion of Stewart's viewing audience. Blaming "money in politics," or low voter turnout, or voter suppression isn't going to help Democrats "do better" next time.
Taking an honest look at the centralization-centered agenda behind their message and why it might not resonate in an increasingly decentralized world, for example, might. It's not a comedian's job, but I think in a way the Daily Show's not just a comedy show anymore but a show for like-minded people to have their worldview reinforced. Otherwise the over-the-top reactions to "what Republicans winning means" for America from the team blue diehards doesn't require a lot of work to be pretty hilarious.
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The Dem operative is truly hurt by the election results. Cannot be funny anymore.
Oh, lighten up. In a few years, we'll look back and laugh!
Why wait?
Fuck Jon Stewart, fuck Colbert. Their big government, big state boot lickers, court jesters for the establishment. Why anybody finds these guys remotely funny is beyond me.
The thing to remember about Stewart and his show is that they will not allow any guest to record or have a unedited copy of their interview. This is because their game is to edit interviews to make people they don't like look foolish and they don't want anyone being able to call them on it by producing an unedited copy of the interview. These of course are the same people who claim that no one should listen to Breitbart of O'Keefe because they release edited videos.
Regardless of his politics, Stewart is a thin skinned humorless asshole and a liar.
These of course are the same people who claim that no one should listen to Breitbart of O'Keefe because they release edited videos.
Principals, not principles.
If I were a guest, I'd wear a big clock, Flavor Flav style. Then the edits would show as the time on the clock keeps bouncing around during the interview.
+1 Public Enemy
Genius!
That's one hell of an idea, but the target audience isn't going to think to notice.
It would have to be a digital clock
You still overestimate the audience. They're committed. The most they'll ever mention of it is in passing, well after the fact..."I wonder why that Teathuglikkkan was wearing a big alarm clock. Aren't Teathuglikkkans weird and racist?".
Aren't Teathuglikkkans weird and racist?".
They would probably assume that the point was to make some kind of racist joke about Flavor Flav. Then when Breitbart or someone on "the right" points out the clock jumps, they'll just claim that the Teathuglikkkochans are making a big deal out of nothing, everyone edits interviews, etc. etc.
In fact, since the progtards control the media narrative it will be spun as a thin-skinned stunt designed to distract everyone from the real issue: that Teahadistkkkochsuckers are monsters.
Yep.
I once asked a guy with an analog watch what the time was, and he took out his phone and looked at it.
"Just tell me where the big hand is..."
It's pretty obvious that the interviews are heavily edited. And it would be fine if they weren't trying to be more than a comedy show.
Although Stewart always goes back to the excuse "that it's just a comedy show" that's disingenuous and a lie. He reports/spoofs on news to an audience he knows doesn't watch or read any other news outlet. The Daily Show is the only source of current events for most of the brain-dead millennials who watch his show. Whether he intends it to be humorous or not it's irresponsible to pretend he's not.
I've often thought that O'Reilly ought to fuck with Stewart by sending his man-on-the-street Jesse Watters to interview the dipshit Daily Show audience as they exit the show. It would be fun to rub their faces in their own excrement.
Even that excuse doesn't hold. So what Johnny? Is it okay to be dishonest if you throw humour in? Or what you label as 'humour'?
See the "Homer Badman" episode of the Simpsons.
This is what I thought of.
"Mr. Simpson, Mr. Simpsons! NOOO!"
"note: physical altercation may not have happened."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vdnX9k0U9oE
You must be an analog senior citizen Republican.
I haven't seen him for years, but I used to like Jon Stewart. It's a shame that people decided he was somehow an important part of the political discourse or maybe he could have just gone on being a comedian.
But he is showing himself to be a giant pussy. Stand by your joke, man.
I agree Zeb. It is not that Stewart can't be funny, he can be. And it is not that Stewart doesn't have a right to be an unapologetic leftist and make his show a vehicle for pushing that view. He most certainly does.
The problem with Stewart is that he is a mendacious pussy. He is happy to be nasty and one sided and political right up until someone challenges him and takes him seriously by going back after him. Then Stewart runs away and avoids defending his positions by claiming to be just a comedian.
Yep, Maher does the same thing.
Clown nose on, clown nose off.
The truth hurts doesn't it? Humor is the best defense.
He lost me as a viewer the night he fellated Austin Goolsbee. It was really embarrassing and difficult to watch.
So when you say "fellated" that's euphemism for sucking his dick, right ?
It's not a euphemism, Mainer, it's the dictionary definition.
you said Dick-tionary
Plus necrophiliac. And that dick had to taste like Obama ass.
and/or Valerie Jarrett armpit
You people are disgusting. You aren't worthy of cleaning up the debris left after Jon Stewart annihilates corporate GOP blowhards. Clean up your act.
Looks like your guys got their clocks cleaned. Not that its going to change anything, pissdog. The only satisfaction I got out of this sham election is it puts you politically correct, big state loving, brown shirts in "piss your pants and cry like a little girl" mode. Looks like your guys got annihilated, pissdog.
+1 giant pussy democrat operative trying to hide behind 'comedy'
Remember a couple of years back when Colbert and Leibowitz had their "Rally for Sanity", or whatever the hell it was called, in D.C.?
Well, it worked. Some sanity is finally starting to get restored in the country.
Obligatory.
Don't you ever post anything here again. I clicked on that and now my ears are bleeding.
Stewart is a thin skinned humorless asshole and a liar.
You forgot TEDIOUS.
Reason corp. is owned by the Koch brothers. Consider the source.
Most of your favorite pundits on PMSNBC and the Communist News Network are owned by Soros. Consider the source, pissdog.
"Either we win or you bought the election!"
in a way
Well, "every way" is"a way", so it's technically true.
You don't understand! Unions are the people!
It's corporate money that's bad! Corporations aren't people!
Big money is OK as long as it is used to support the right candidates!
Principals, not principles!
The Kochs spending $15 million a year on politics is nothing but evil billionaires buying elections and destroying America. Some lefty billionaire spending hundreds of millions of dollars trying to elect politicians committed to stopping global warming or Bloomberg spending the same on gun control is nothing but public service and good government.
Didn't you know that?
And yet only one side consistently wants to ban spending to get their way. Funny.
The Dems want to limit spending because many of their friends in the MSM would give them plenty of free exposure. That's a huge advantage.
Not to mention NPR: All Democrat, all the time.
I don't want to blow your mind but this is reality: NPR is middle-of-the-road straight reporting. It's FOX News that has a built-in, intentional bias. They are different but not opposites. If an NPR reporter ever sounds a tiny bit nonplussed when discussing something a crazy rightwing moron says, it's because it's a fucking crazy moron, not because NPR has an agenda. And most of the time they're so professional that they can report on crazy asshat rightwing idiots saying things that aren't true and not lose a beat.
But you never listen to NPR do you? The fat man just told you what to think about it, huh?
I listen to NPR every day, nimrod. I hate commercials, so I usually land on NPR about ten minutes into the drive to and from work.
I frequently listen to NPR and enjoy it, but to say that interviews aren't biased/skewed to one side is ludicrous, that can be applied to every news show ever. It's inherently impossible for any human being to be unbiased, that's what computers and numbers are for.
One thing I find entertaining about NPR is listening to the reporter's vocal inflections. When they report on Democrat successes, you can hear the joy in their voice. When they report on Democrat losses, you can hear the sadness. It's really funny.
I think you are paranoid. Inflections are your imagination unless it is an opinion piece. NPR is as unbiased as it can be after the Kochs censor stuff they don't approve of,or else.
You believe the Koch Bro's censor NPR, and you're saying that sarcasmic is paranoid? Jesus Christ, you need help. Maybe there's an Urgentcare for Trolls in your warren.
Pissdog, forget to take your meds? Don't forget to wear your depends and its time to start wiping your own ass.
I listen to NPR every day as well. Not too long ago, I would have argued that they are pretty middle of the road and straight in their reporting, but lately, I'm not so convinced. I still think that they are one of the better news orgs around, but they political sympathies of the reporters are pretty obvious. And coverage of some issues like gun control or campaign finance are pretty blatantly slanted toward the left-Democrat position.
Occasionally NPR does pieces where the reporting goes against the liberal narrative. Like that one about unemployment rolling into disability and trapping people in poverty for life (something libertarians have been saying for years). But those are the exceptions, not the rule.
They had another really good story like that on recently, but I can't remember what it was right now. Something where I was kind of surprised how much it went against the liberal narrative.
Gun control is one of the issues where the bias shows through most strongly. They don't outright call for gun bans or anything, but they repeat the talking points of the gun control crowd without any critical analysis. Not so for the talking points from the pro-gun crowd. Of course, they always tell you the source of the talking points, so they can deflect criticism that they are editorializing. Their just reporting on what the two groups say. But when you continuously go on about "military style assault weapons" without any critique, yeah, that is a bias.
Race issues and now the campus sexual assault issues are other areas where I see this a lot.
Gun control?
How about global warming!! They are just insane about it.
How about global warming!! They are just insane about it.
Well yeah! Only "crazy asshat rightwing idiots" deny global warming!
I listen to NPR just about every day. For straight news and reporting, I think they are pretty unbiased. But I think there is a definite bias in the special segments they do, mostly in terms of story selection and emphasis, and in some of the more opinion-oriented programs. And they are pretty much the kings of concern trolling.
Public sector workers are immune from self-interest and ideological biases due to the fact that they are all cyborgs who share a singular, emotionless consciousness over a wide-ranging neural net that was constructed by DARPA in the early 2000s.
I'm thinking Tony is the one who never listens to NPR.
NPR is middle-of-the-road straight reporting.
I was wondering how stupid and deluded someone would have to be to actually believe this. Now I know, you have to be Tony-level retarded and delusional! Thanks, Tony!
Yes people who are funded by tax handouts are not beholden to anyone, and in fact taxation makes the recipients devoid of all subjectivity and personal interest.
You're critical thinking skills are so non-existent it's astounding.
Tony, go back to masturbating at gay porn in your mother's basement. I know your pissed because your mom told you to go to bed early because you wouldn't eat your vegetables at dinner but don't take it out on the rest of us.
Tony, go back to masturbating at gay porn in your mother's basement. I know your pissed because your mom told you to go to bed early because you wouldn't eat your vegetables at dinner but don't take it out on the rest of us.
Tony, Tony, Tony
Put the crack pipe down and try to get your eyes to focus on a single point for a little bit. Ready? Ok
I have listened to NPR a fair amount, my son-in-law listens to it often. It is NOT middle of the road, and not straight reporting. You only think that because the opinions and spin they include happens to support your own bias'.
Now that would be fine, IF I was not required to help pay for it.
Ok, I know actually focusing like this was hard for you, and I certainly appreciate your effort. Feel free to resume your previously self destructive behavior.
Here's a link to the previously posted "Ideological Profile of Each Source's Audience":
http://www.journalism.org/2014.....zation-09/
NPR has the same ideological audience as The Daily Show, The Colbert Report and Al Jazeera America.
There is plenty of subjective evidence that NPR has a consistent and well defined Left wing bias.
NPR interviewed Obama on Tuesday as he promoted his blue team buddies; NPR is not middle of the road
Fuck, if Tony listens to NPR I'm changing my commute routine. Next thing I know I'll think society owes me something and I'm somehow superior because I lament the very things that have led to my success.
My guess is that they would try to carve out an exception for unions.
And Hollywood.
Big Hollywood, not little hollywood. Remember Citizens United was about a documentary (Rockumentary) after all.
Of the billionaires that spent money on Maine elections: one is a liberal from away and the other is the husband of progressive Congresswoman Chellie Pringree. He also happens to own three of the five major newspapers in the state.
And the proposed ban on using dogs or bait to hunt bear failed at the polls.
I'm all for hunting, but baiting bears is very similar to the shooting at Luby's.
And regarding the bear hunting, about 90% of the bears harvested are over bait. Eliminating baiting would result in a cultural carrying capacity clash. Our population is healthy and stable.
Hunting over bait allows the hunter to judge the animal - not many sows (with cubs) are taken as a result. The cubs need that first year with the mother to learn how to survive our -25 degree winters. The wardens and biologists s even participated in the campaign to retain baiting.
As I implied above, folks here don't liken to outsiders imposing their opinions.
What kind of thrill can it be to watch a dog get mauled by a bear so you get an easy shot to kill a bear? For what? How does that make you so damned superior? An animal doesn't have a chance against a gun. A dog has no chance against a bear. No contest. Find a conscience and a soul. That is not hunting it is masochism.
The inside baseball argument is that the out of state, anti-hunting types turned off the rural folks enough to get more of them to vote than is typical. Hence, the GOP kept the senate and the governorship, gained a house seat and took the set senate. Had there been no bear hunting question, at least two of those likely would have gone the other way.
Speaking of ledges, we are now on day 2 without a single Tony sighting. I guess being psychotic allowed shreek to take the results better than Tony.
He is conspicuous by his absence. Preparing a rationalization, perhaps?
No, The White House hasn't been able to get coherent enough to send out the Talking Points memo.
OMG.
Tony is Debbie Wasserman Schultz!
Come on, Tony would have to look better in drag than that.
Unfortunately, he showed up.
Finkle is Einhorn! Einhorn is Finkle!
Whoa.
I have never seen them in the same place at the same time...
his mom will find him when his body starts to stink
How will she know the difference?
I like more gridlock. That is about as good government can be, Red Tony.
Yes we know. Being psychotic allows you to weather these things a bit better than Tony.
I look forward to Reid filibustering or Obama vetoing the first dozen Aborto-Freak anti-gay bills from our new Congress.
And to think, you probably even took your meds today.
Reid got rid of the filibuster, you stupid asshole!
Great sick minds think alike.
I thought Reid got rid of the filibuster. You mean he wants it back? What an a-hole.
Just on certain minor appointments.
Is there anything to stop Reid from changing the Senate rules back during the lame duck session? I don't think there is, other than his own sense of honor and integrity. BWAHAHAHAHA!!!11!!!!1!
"I look forward to Reid filibustering.."
What if McTurtle keeps the Reid rules? Whats that? You don't expect him to? Ah, so you acknowledge that as bad as the republicans are they are at least more honorable than your team.
Got it, Mr. Alltimehighisflat.
PB is actually correct here. The Reid nuclear option was limited to Federal nominees and Executive appointments.
Of course McConnell could just do away with the filibuster entirely.
He was on the Global Warming thread yesterday.
I guess he is not dead then. Thanks.
Well, his brain is dead.
Now look what you've done.
You just had to say something, didn't you John? Now he's here.
Hey, speaking of big money in politics, what's the annual budget for the Daily Show?
Or better yet, how much money would it cost to buy a half hour of air time a day on Comedy Central five days a week year around?
Are you.suggesting that advertising dollars spent during that show should be counted as political contributions? Hmmm, that could be interesting.
Forget advertising money, the cost of the entire thirty minutes if it were purchased by one advertiser like an infomercial. That is all the show is, a daily infomercial for the Democratic Party.
No, I get you. I'm just wondering if ad sponsors should have to think about their spending on politically charged programming in the same way individuals and others have to consider the tax implications of political contributions.
Under the "CITIZENZZ UNITED BAD" logic, progs would have to acknowledge such advertising as in-kind contributions to a political party or candidate.
That is not how they see it. Since reality has a liberal bias, shows like Stewarts are just satire and entertainment. It is not Stewart's fault that reality tilts against conservatives. Look at the quote from NPR I give below about how the lack of humor showed the "Limits of political tinged satire" rather than the fact that Stewart is just a leftist asshole who won't make fun of his own side.
So the leftists wouldn't touch shows like Stewart's. Instead, things like Rush Limbaugh and the Drudge report would be regulated into extinction in the name of keeping money out of politics.
Didn't Stewart and Colbert drop their SuperPac shtick almost immediately after Obama started Organize for America?
That illustrated very nicely the idiocy of the opposition to Citizens United.
Is the Daily Show covered by freedom of the press? If it is, then how is the Hillary movie that CU produced any different?
The conflation of "the press" with professional journalists is just awful. Under any reasonable definition, all TV shows, movies, books, websites and any other form of mass communication should be considered "the press".
Oh yeah? Well what about FAUX NEWS? They're a 24/7/365 infomercial for the Republicans! They must be regulated as political speech!
No, I think he's suggesting that the show itself is a contribution.
Yes but who finances the shows? Stewart didn't get rich producing it with his own money.
Liz Weinstead or something like that.
I watched The Daily Show once, in 2010. I didn't laugh.
I watched it once. Dwayne Johnson was promoting the Doom movie. It got one chuckle when the host tried to threaten the guest with the BFG prop. Other than that, nothing.
The Daily Show can be funny -- hasn't been in a while, but can be -- but that requires them to climb down off their partisan hackery horse. That's not going to happen as long as the New Yorker and their ilk keep felating him for his "edgy" political humor.
Letterman got trapped in that same echo chamber, where he probably doesn't know a single conservative so he assumes everyone thinks his jokes are funny.
Dunno if anyone saw Talking Dead on Sunday, but some actor tried to make a Republicans-are-evil joke and when the audience just groaned he looked stunned that he wasn't in the midst of a Maher-esque crowd that would just howl with laughter at any such reference.
Dunno if anyone saw Talking Dead on Sunday, but some actor tried to make a Republicans-are-evil joke and when the audience just groaned he looked stunned that he wasn't in the midst of a Maher-esque crowd that would just howl with laughter at any such reference.
That seems particularly tin-eared considering that the Walking Dead is one of the few popular shows I can think of where the characters and themes would be particularly sympathetic to somewhat conservative types.
Tin-eared is exactly right. More than anything, a show like that should be a "safe zone" where politics don't need to enter. Like sports, or movie reviews (ahem, Ebert).
But more than that was his reaction -- he was clearly not used to being around people who wouldn't just nod approvingly.
More than anything, a show like that should be a "safe zone" where politics don't need to enter.
Exactly this. I was rather heartened that Chris Hardwick admonished him (in a joking manner, so as not to offend his guest) for bringing politics into his show. Even though Hardwick probably shared his political views, it was still kind of good on him to nip it in the bud and not allow a talk show about another show about zombies to be turned into some asshat's political soapbox.
That was Captain Jack Harkness. Shame he's a liberal bed-wetter. I rather enjoyed his time on Doctor Who and Torchwood. The analogy he was trying to draw was also way off the mark. That hospital was a socialist collective if there ever was one.
While I don't care that much for Dr. Who, Torchwood has some of the most awesome Libertarian themes of any show out there. Thanks to however on this site recommended it.
Children of the Earth could have been written by actual Libertarians and Miracle Day as well.
I have watched it since it went on the air with Craig Kilborn in 1996. It was much more satirical and funny. Craig left to do the Late Late Show, and they brought in Stewart. It was ok for a while, but now I find it insufferable. If I do ever turn it on, I end up turning it off due to another Democrat guest, or a conservative guest who he just openly mocks. Sad.
Kilborn was great. I understand that he was pushed out after referring to Lizz Winstead as a cunt.
I heard it had something to do with sexual harassment. Knowing how politically left Winstead is, she could easily have construed that as "harassment."
Or maybe Kilborn is a dick. Who knows?
It stopped being funny around 2007. At least I remember it was funny before that maybe I was young and silly. Like The Simpsons, it's been bad as long as it's been good.
OT: Genocide is back! Complete with a retro-nod to burning ovens.
*Until recently, the "correct" pronunciation of the word was that the "n" was silent. Loki the Trickster is the one, true god.
For max throughput I hear they have placed a big order for rotary kilns.
There are some mighty fine German industrial corporations. /Godwin
When I think of places that could be described as "hell on earth", Pakistan is one that immediately comes to mind. That society is thoroughly irrational and bloodthirsty.
Considering the bigger picture:
The clearest ever image of planets forming around an infant star has been taken by the Alma radio telescope.
Wow. That's cool.
Amazing.
Nice.
I haven't looked at every campaign, but in Arkansas, Mark Pryor outspent Tom Cotton by nearly 2 to 1. The whole election buying thing doesn't work, and it isn't always the Republican trying to buy it.
Warner way outspent Gillespie in Virginia. Gillespie was two broke to run anymore TV ads for the last two weeks of the campaign. Yet, Warner ended up winning by only 12,000 votes.
It would be surprising if any of the incumbents from either party were outspent by their challengers. Having more money is one of the advantages of incumbency. So it is a bit rich to say the least for Progs like Stewart to complain the a bunch of Democratic incumbents lost because the Republicans bought the election.
Gillespie didn't learn one of the basic marketing principles for a campaign. You pay for the dates closest to the election first, then work your way backward on the calendar.
I really would like to see a comprehensive review of spending by party, region, and candidate success. My gut feel is that it would show large spending excess by the Democrats and an obvious negative correlation with success.
My uninformed guess is that there would be a correlation with success when one candidate vastly outspent another, but that when spending is close, it doesn't much matter.
I recall hearing that on House elections the magic number is $1 million, and any spending above that has no correlation with success.
This - it's more a law of diminishing returns. Once you spend enough to fire up the machine and get some name recognition, it matters not whether you spend 1.5 million or 15 million.
I haven't seen the spending numbers for the Senate election here in Iowa but my internet and iPhone were both under siege with ads from NextGen Climate Action, which I'm sure doesn't count as campaign spending in Jon Stewart Land.
This Rhode Island governor candidate won 22 percent of the vote. He only spent $35.
Beaten bu those rotten hundredaires!
"He has run for lieutenant governor several times, promising to abolish the office if he ever won."
I'd vote for almost anyone who made the promise to abolish the office for which they were running.
If you want to get money out of politics, get politics out of money.
The evening seemed to highlight the limits of news-tinged satire on the political scene,
Yes because only Republicans can be satirized I guess. When Democrats lose there is just nothing funny about it and you have hit the limits of "news tinged satire". It couldn't be that Stewart is such a leftist hack he can't bring himself to satirize his own side no matter what. How does the NPR hack write that with a straight face?
It's all about intentions. You see, when the left satirizes the Republicans, they're only doing it for entertainment. There's no hatred involved. But when the right satirizes Democrats, that's racist hate speech. What other explanation is there? Prove they're not motivated by hatred. You can't. That means they are, and that makes them bad people.
I'm betting tomorrow it will be Obama is a closet Republican, and he's really only half black, anyway, so this was all his fault and the stupid proles fell for his act.
I haven't watched the clip, so maybe I'm missing some context, but I thought the "curl up in a ball" joke was actually a pretty good dig at the Democrats really having nothing to campaign on besides bullshit. I wouldn't have thought it was referring to some supposed money imbalance.
It's more that his joke "balance" is that Republicans are evil and corrupt, while Democrats are bad at getting their awesome message out.
Well, it could have been a good joke if it was just about how desperate and useless the Democrats were in this election.
I think in a way the Daily Show's not just a comedy show anymore but a show for like-minded people to have their worldview reinforced
You *think* this is the case?
Or that is used to not be that way? I am pretty sure the words "think" and "anymore" are pretty needless qualifications.
It's been a while since I watched the Daily Show. When I did occasionally watch it, I thought it was pretty funny, and that it was a bit more even handed than it seems to have become. That could be selective memory on my part, or it could be that it's easier to make fun of "your side" from time to time when they aren't fighting to be in power.
His show effectively died the day Obama won the election. Before that it didn't matter that he was just propaganda for the left because the left wasn't in power. Propaganda can be funny if it is making fun of those in power. But once Obama took office, Stewart just became a mouth piece for those in power. And government propaganda is never funny.
Baghdad Bob disagrees
Never intentionally funny.
He dings Obama plenty. You want equal time, then tell your side to stop being so fucking ridiculous and evil.
Yes Tony, he dings Obama all of the time making jokes about how he is just too brilliant and wonderful to be in politics or how he is just too nice of a guy and foolishly tries to work with those evil Republicans.
I am not sure what is more funny about you Tony; the fact that you think everyone in America who doesn't agree with you is evil and stupid or the fact that you are surprised that your side can't seem to get any of those people to vote for you.
Or the fact he comes here to "argue." I can't imagine how sad of a man he must be to come here to name call and argue for kicks.
"Ridiculous and evil" is the new talking point. Thanks, Tony, glad you climbed off the ledge of your OKC high rise to let us know that.
Ridiculous and evil? You keep using that word, I do not think it means what you think it means. Remember how you said that Jews in Nazi Germany had no right to life because the government said they didn't? That's ridiculous and evil.
"He dings Obama plenty."
Precisely right. Republican's he blasts with the most harshest humor he can manage, and Obama he dings.
Cue the Obama skinny jokes.
What humor-worthy things has Obama done? There've been a few. Compare those to the things the Republicans have done. Granted, one guy vs. a sea of fucktards.
It was pretty bad over a year before Obama.
Sad that this is where a large portion of the population's political opinions are formed.
Comedians.
I admit that George Carlin influenced me as a youth. His cynical hatred of authority/religion was defining.
I am pretty sure George would be puking in his grave right now if he could hear that.
Whatever messages George was trying to send you, spending years defending the most authoritarian President in a hundred years wasn't one of them. Here is a clue dip shit "Its okay when our side does it" isn't being anti-authoritarian.
I can say with 100% certainty that he would hate your conservative ass the most.
That's 92% too high.
*Francisco struggles with the math*
100-92 equals????
OH...EIGHT...8%!
Just like he hated leftists and greens and authoritarians and pretty much every single thing you stand for.
Carlin hated the very concept of democracy as an illusion of choice. He thought humanity in general was extremely messed up and self-destructive and that there was nothing that could stop it. He was more a misanthrope than anything else, and shockingly misanthrope's aren't the best source for social organization. Makes for good comedy but poor argumentation.
That is exactly what he was. He was less erudite, cruder and funnier Melken. Neither side of any political argument has the right to claim him.
Plato had little regard for democracy. I don't know if Carlin was a misanthrope as much as a total cynic. He might have been though.
George hated boot lickers, PERIOD. Don't pretend your not one of them, dipshit. In George's last act and tour he supported straight up anarchy, not your big state nonsense, go in the corner and suck on your thumb and piss in your pants, "Palin's Buttplug" loser.
Do you think Ayn Rand ever laughed in her entire life?
I don't know Tony and since I am not an objectivist, I don't really care. I never found them funny either.
Another non sequitur. Well played.
Oh, hi, Tony. We we just wondering about you.
Tony, conservatives may like Ayn Rand but she despised them.
Do you think you're on a message board of conservatism?
Yes, he does. Not supporting the democrats equates to "conservative."
Yes. I saw it in an interview. Sometimes her writing was kind of funny.
Do you think anyone will read anything you're written decades after you're dead?
I hope so. Not that I'll be in a position to care.
Don't care, I am one libertarian who doesn't like Ayn Rand. I know alot of others who don't, Tony, I bet your the type that cries, whines and poops his pants screaming "DON'T STEREOTYPE" yet YOU stereotype on this comment board. Idiot.
Why anyone to the right of Mao goes on that show is a mystery, let alone the chairman of the RNC.
Stupid Party's gonna stupid.
Actually he handled himself reasonably well. I think it was live, so Stewart couldn't play with the footage. And you can't defend yourself to a large chunk of the electorate if you aren't willing to step into the Lion's den, as it were.
Meh, Red Eye is much better than The Daily Show(IMO). Less political, less polished, more weird, hot chicks, and a better host.
+2 hot chicks
Plus, Red Eye is actually funny. And that Joanna chick is hot.
To put the spending in perspective, I think the total for the mid-terms was something $4 billion. The Halloween costume industry collects $7 billion in revenue each year. So yeah, this was the most expensive mid-term in history, but people fork out more money to dress up one night a year.
Was it? From where I sat, it appeared that TEAM Blue's strategy was to cry "War on Women," overturning Obamacare will push grannies in front of buses, "KOCHTOPUS!," a vote for TEAM Red is a vote for racism, and Obama's personal favorite domestic canard, "infrastructure."
He also doesn't find anything funny about one-year slavery, meaning he's all for it:
I'm not old enough to know if there really was more a "we're all in this together" mindset 30,40 years ago. Maybe there was, or maybe this is just selective memory.
But to the extent that there is more division now, it's because people feel under assault from the other side. As government tries to "nudge", if not outright take over more and more areas of our lives, people naturally fight it and each other.
Forcing people to work for some "common good" isn't going to change that. Who decides what the common good is? Who decides what is and isn't a worthy goal to work towards? That will be just as divisive as anything else in politics, and then you want to toss in compulsory service? Good God.
Forcing people to work for some "common good" isn't going to change that. Who decides what the common good is?
Exactly. When I was a young idealist, I was all for the common good and all that nonsense. Then I thought about it. Who decides? Voters get to make one decision every couple of years, so it certainly is not them. So who decides? A small number of people in government decide, and what if they are looking out for themselves instead of some imagined common good?
For example I thought maybe parenting licensing would be a good idea. You can't reproduce unless you can prove you can be a good parent. OK, sounds good on the surface. But who makes that decision? What are the criteria? How could that power be abused?
Questions like that were what set me on the road to being a libertarian.
And those questions really aren't that ahrd to ask oneself. How many laws can really be for the common good if we are a country of 300 million diverse people?
One of many reasons for a libertarian to favor small polities over large ones.
common good = commie good
"I'm not old enough to know if there really was more a "we're all in this together" mindset 30,40 years ago."
There wasn't. In fact, the draft was very divisive. During WWII there was, but the whole country was scared shitless. After WWII the draft was very destructive to our society, that is why we got rid of it.
Stewart is a collectivist idiot.
And there's a good case to be made that conscription hurt the war effort more than it helped.
It would certainly be a disaster today. The military gets much better quality soldiers with the current system.
I'm not on board with the draft or anything, but I'm not sure we do get higher quality soldiers with an all volunteer force. It's possible, but I'm not sure about that.
With an all volunteer force, you get people who want to go war. That includes the power-seeking types who sometimes apply for law enforcement jobs. In the same sense that, we're rarely going to find politicians seeking office (and power) who would be the best choices to do so, these people might not be who we want on the job.
You also get people who are looking for the (in my opinion) overly generous benefits. I have nothing against military service or most who choose to serve, but I'm not sure the benefits should roll on forever.
It's entirely possible the draft is 1) both morally indefensible and 2) a way to get a better quality of soldier. But, again, I'm not certain about the latter.
Tangental (from Althouse on a Mona Charon piece))
"Liberals like Obama... apply the 'wave the magic wand' school of policy analysis..."
"... as in 'If I could wave a magic wand, there would be no trade-offs in life. Child care would be plentiful, staffed by Ivy League graduates, convenient to everyone's homes, and dirt-cheap. Moms would be able to work while their kids were young, and never feel a tug of regret. Or, they could choose to stay at home for a few years and return to the workforce without missing a step or a paycheck.' This is the sort of talk that liberals and progressives have been feeding eager audiences for decades. It glides past economic realities without so much as a backward glance. How, for example, are you going to get those highly educated college grads to work in day-care centers when they expect large returns for their very expensive educations? Is the pay going to start at $100,000? Where will the money come from?"
Writes Mona Charen in "Choices We Don't Want Women to Make /President Obama is eager to free women from child-care responsibilities" (via Jaltcoh).
Writes Mona Charen in "Choices We Don't Want Women to Make /President Obama is eager to free women from child-care responsibilities" (via Jaltcoh).
ADDED: To be fair to Obama and his ilk, I don't think they ever express a desire to put Ivy League graduates in day care jobs. The Ivy League graduates are all supposed to have brilliant careers, not simply the dignity of work and a "living" wage and nice benefits. Who are those hoards of women who are supposed to staff the day care facilities for the higher class of women who've gone to the finest schools, all right? Charen seems to want to make the magical thinking sound as absurd as possible. But in doing so, she's missing the class politics that is, I think, even more embarrassing to lefties. I remember once, years ago, back in the day when I attended "femcrit" sessions in Madison and Cambridge, bringing up this problem. I was not trying to be confrontational, only to talk plainly about who would do all this child-care work so the higher-achieving women could soar. There would be so many new jobs to draw women into the workplace. I got stone-cold stares. That was something no one wanted to talk about ? plentiful low-status jobs for women.
Progs never really take the time -- or else lack the ability -- to consider the full impact of their policy proposals.
Those who call for compulsory military service are usually not the ones who will be assigned to go over the top of the trenches, clear the mine fields, or jump out of a plane behind enemy lines.
Just saying.
Fuck off, Slaver Stewart.
I am sure you stayed up worrying about me and mine every day I was deployed - pah!
"one year of something"
The stupidity of this could breed a thousand Daily Show skits.
something so that we all feel invested in the same game, because that's the part that we've lost.
unfortunately, his entire political philosophy is for only some to invest in the game and the rest to free ride. good luck getting them to pony up. it's not as easy a sell as free shit.
Holy shit. That's pure evil.
Stewart was the brave soul who once called out the show Crossfire for being destructive. He needs to be mocked publicly.
Every time I see Jon Stewart's name, I struggle to figure out how he's still relevant. But then Ed used the phrase "echo chamber" and I have this "oh yeah... duh!" moment.
...that's the joke.
OK
So here's my thought: Stewart is in his 50s. He has kids, he has grey hair; the paunch can't be too far away. His schtick hasn't changed at all, except in all of the horrible ways that comedians become less funny as they age (he's joking about the cute things his kids do, FFS). When does he go full Letterman, where people are actively ragging on his inability to do anything but serve up the same gruel? We're still seeing people treat Jon Stewart like he's some sort of rock star when he is older than dirt and tamer than your average Christian worship CD. When does that change?
There is a lot of that. He is a boomer leftist version of Walt Kelly who wrote the old Pogo comic strip. He is getting old and the world is leaving his ideology and ethos behind and he is not taking it well.
Whoa...I used to read Pogo all the time. We have met the enemy and he is us...that's wit for the ages.
Also I used to get a kick out of the Agnew jackal dressed in the praetorian uniform....'member that ?
Walt was known for raging a lot against the lazy evil hippie menace.
Ah...well it was 40 years ago so I may not remember all the details.
I'd like to see a couple of plants in his studio audience who laugh way too loudly, and sometimes at inappropriate times.
You suck McBain Trouser!
Speaking of not funny, who finds this enjoyable?
Watch Amy Poehler Tear Up 'Comedy Bang! Bang!' With A Freestyle Rap
Amy Poehler is a woman of many talents including acting, writing, producing, directing, and hosting the Golden Globes. What many people don't know is that she dabbles in freestyle rapping.
In this super-cut of her Comedy Bang! Bang! appearances, she raps about Paula Deen, home schooling, and the pros and cons of exotic pets. My favorite parts are her tangent about taking her dog shoe shopping and Bank of America leaving everyone broke.
Is there anything Amy Poehler can't do?
Be funny?
Parks and Rec is awesome.
I haven't seen it, but I suppose I have heard enough people applaud it that maybe she isn't always terrible.
That has very little to do with Amy Poehler.
It was, it started going downhill for the same reason as the Daily Show - fellating politicians and politics. The idea that politicians can find a way to help everyone goes unchallenged, even unquestioned.
That said, they did have a libertarian character who was actually mostly decent, instead of being evil.
That show's stock went down in my book when it became a venue to watch Michelle Obama's dick get sucked.
^BOOM!
Amy did a great Hillary next to Tina Fry's Sista Sarah.
Tina Fey. Fuck you auto correct.
Amy has HilDog's cackle down.
A Tina Fry could be at least as fun as a fish fry.
There's a reason she played the straight role on Parks & Rec.
Speaking of which, am I the only one who can't stand Aziz Ansari?
He started off OK, but like pretty much all Parks and Rec characters, he hasn't evolved as the show has gone on. Some of the characters are awesome enough that that's OK (Swanson, Andy), but he's just gotten stale.
Saw his standup in L.A. a few weeks ago. You're not the only one.
Ugh. Did he talk for an hour about Kanye?
No.
Aziz can be funny when he's used strategically. But he's not exactly some broad, comedic utility player. He's got a few jokes he can do that can't be stretched too thin.
C'mon, she was hilarious on the Upright Citizens Brigade.
And Aziz was awesome in Observe and Report.
This was sent to me. It is what constitutes comedy among true believers...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjBcAqx6_rQ
The airborne gayness joke was funny.
Poehler is funny, as are her raps on CBB. Though Neil Campbell's butter rap is better.
That said, removing her work from context doesn't help. If you don't know what CBB is or get what they're doing, it probably just sounds like weird, bad rapping.
Oh, and regardless of how you feel about Stewart, you have to give him credit. He and Colbert may do more to influence the opinions of young people when it comes to politics than any other two single individuals.
It would be an incredible boon to libertarians if we had a someone that could set influence the culture and conversation to the same degree. It would probably be far more impactful than electing some politician, no matter how liberty friendly.
Drew Carey and Penn Gillette could do it. Someone needs to organize this.
Doug Stanhope is another (mostly) libertarian comedian.
Might not want to rely too heavily on Stanhope. Considering how he lives, I expect to see his obituary every single day :/
You are right. Media and culture matters. Andrew Breitbart always said that conservatives need to stop worrying about politics and go to Hollywood and start producing movies and entertainment.
When you think about how thoroughly not just the left but the really hard left owns mass culture in this society it is amazing that Progs don't own every elected office in the country. It just goes to show how epically awful their ideas really are.
i dont think a minsterl show would play too well making fun of poor people blacks and rape victims dont sell too well nowadays
I would suggest trolling in English next time. Gets your point across better.
Don't listen to Trouser. Shine on you crazy diamond.
I don't know about that. Lena Dunham seems to do pretty well.
Then again, why spend the money on producing shows, etc. when ultimately progs end up a parody of themselves?
Fine, so we see to it that you get no funding then.
Really? I don't think you've seen a Tyler Perry show lately.
Though, ironically, politically shuckin' and jivin' for Obama is all the rage with the Left these days.
Conservatives have no creative talent.
Hayek noted that before I did.
And white men can't jump.
Wesley Snipes noted that before I did.
How many hits have you gotten so far today at your little desert oasis over at Bloomberg Politics? I bet it's probably in the single digits.
How does it feel knowing that you worked at the Washington Post, blew it (twice apparently), and will never work there again the rest of your sorry ass life?
I don't think finding new ways to pillage wealth and quash freedom is the kind of creativity society needs.
Still, I always wonder why their isn't a socialist version of Atlas Shrugged.
But then, when I try to imagine it, all I can think of is a Star Trek franchise focusing exclusively on the Borg, and nothing else. Not much of a story there. For humans, anyway.
You find me one poll that shows that the American people are on the side of Republicans on... anything.
Conservatives don't do entertainment well because they are dumb and humorless, on the whole. It's only gotten worse as you've cocooned yourselves deeper and deeper into an impenetrable bubble of misinformation and grievance.
You find me one poll that shows that the American people are on the side of Republicans on... anything.
Maybe you were out of the country Tony, but they had a really big poll a couple of days ago that seemed to indicate that.
You are part of the minority now Tony. And you are likely to remain there for a while. Get used to it.
just as the demcorats though the rebublicans were history 6 years ago/ dont get cocky like they did
You never know what the future holds. But no matter what it does, it doesn't change the past. And nothing in the future will change the fact that in the last six years Progressives have essentially destroyed the Democratic brand in huge areas of the country and made being Progressive synonymous with culture war nonsense, NSA spying, government oppression, economic malaise, theft and administrative incompetence at every level.
You owned the world in January of 2009 and now you have the smallest majority in the House since Hoover, are a minority in the Senate and control the smallest number of state houses since reconstruction. You are one petulant light giver in the White House from being completely in the wilderness.
Own it buddy.
I don't know if you remember me telling before, but my grandmother told me that after the progressives fell out of power the last time "if you walked down the street and told people you were a progressive, a crowd would form and lynch you."
They were hated with the heat of a thousand suns.
when you own the damage dubya did to the republican brand i will
it is entireyl possible that tuesday was progressives purgin the lukewarm - dinos, accomodaors those who punted on the public option etc. lets see what 2016 brings before declaring either party dead or do you think the gay and black republicans, the prochoicers gay marriage supporters at least in the sesne that they really dont think its an issue to care about) will bring a conservative rebirth
BUT BOOSH!!!
Sorry, too much capitalization, punctuation and it was short, succinct and got to the point. So, F on the Flaming Ballsack scale.
Leftists are great at purges, I'll give you that.
A touch fewer mass murders this time around than is the usual for them, though.
Can someone translate what Flaming Ballsack said? How about it, shreek, you speak Retard.
But voters have short memories. The wheel will turn again. Count on it.
You're right, DarrenM. The Pachyderms will f up and get themselves in trouble again. You can count on that. Don't forget, John McCain will be a committee chairman. And Lindsey Graham. The list goes on.
I think Rand Paul is wrong. Hillary was helped by the election in that the Elephants will be blamed by the MSM for all the shit that happens for the next two years. If they were smart (hahaha) they would craft some really attractive bills that Obama would veto so they can call him the obstructionist. Won't happen, though.
You're right at the federal level, but the governor races indicate an increasing acceptance of conservative reform and rejection of the blue state model.
And the various state legislatures.
Relevantly: "Party switch gives Republicans control of West Virginia Senate"
http://www.washingtonpost.com/.....ia-senate/
Apparently the War on Coal is unpopular in West Virginia. Who would have thought?
The GOP had over 300 House seats in the twenties. By the end of Hoover's term it was down to 88.
History will repeat itself.
It just has - except for the Democrats this time. Your tears really are yummy.
Republicans are less popular than Democrats nationally even as they did well in the election. Democratic positions on issues are almost universally favored over Republican positions. Republicans did well because of factors other than their policy positions or popularity. This is all true but I know that whatever story you made up in your head trumps truth. You're John, and that's what you do.
But the data suggest that you are going to lose 2016 just as badly as Democrats lost 2014, and that includes the presidency, so keep crowing.
Wow. That is some first rate rationalization there. I may print that out and frame it.
"Republicans are less popular than Democrats nationally even as they did well in the election."
Ha!
Yeah Tony. Democrats are universally favored. That is why they now control a minority of state governments. That is why they can't win in places like Illinois, Massachusetts and Maryland or even Wisconsin where the unions spent millions and made Scott Walker win three elections in four years.
It is so funny to hear how delusional you are. What Democratic ideas? There are none. What? Gay marriage? Free birth control for Sandra Fluke? Ending the rape culture? Stopping the evil Republicans from bringing slavery back? What did the Democrats run on in 2012 other than culture war bullshit?
Forget it. Tony. You and your ilk owned the entire federal government and you completely fucked it up and the country kicked you out of office. There is no fixing it until enough time has passed that people forget what fucking morons you are such that you can get elected pretending to be something else again.
What Tony is responding to is the idea that Democrats are seen as cool and Republicans are not. Jon Stewart and Colbert and Tina Fey etc are popular with the young and thus agreeing with them is acceptable/desirable.
Someone mentioned that libertarians need to capture the culture to become successful - that is exactly correct. We aren't too far out in the wilderness - after all Bill Maher and Glenn Beck CLAIM to be libertarians, so there is some cool associated with the brand.
It would be so much better if you guys valued data. I am speaking from polls. Republicans are not popular and neither are their ideas, in absolute and relative terms. It's just true. They won a lot of elections because they had a very favorable map and there was very low turnout.
::raises hand::
I value data. Do you have any data? Sorry, but Facebook polls do not qualify.
"They won a lot of elections because they had a very favorable map and there was very low turnout."
You mean like the governorships of Maryland, Illinois and Maine, perhaps?
yes Republicans suck.
But what does that say about Dems?
If not for ignorant (& often unreliable) voters the Democrat party would disappear. Dem policies are all about emotion but fail in practice.
Tony:
I went to Salon, hoping to read about important issues and their data. However, all I could find were articles saying the same thing over and over again. Basically:
"Look at what this crazy GOP bitch/bastard just said! What a crazy bitch/bastard! We need to raise the level of debate, but we can't because everyone who disagrees with me is a crazy bitch/bastard! And, they're rich! So, raise taxes!"
And, for some reason, the "southern strategy" comes up a lot in the comments. Why the southern strategy is a germane topic 50 years after the civil rights movement is beyond me.
When I see some data that relates to something actually important, I'll let you know.
Salon is awful these days.
We are still paddling in the wake of the Southern Strategy. White racists aren't all gone yet, and they continue to form the political base of a major US political party. It's relevant, and so are the societal structural disadvantages racial minorities tend to face in this country. The causes of that had centuries more time to percolate than the cynical Republican political strategy we're talking about.
I have a hard time buying the whole "We know why white people vote the way they do: they're racists" argument. I mean, I know there are still racist white people out there, but, the basis for the party? Seems like a stretch. Is it just based on assuming all white people in the southern US are racist? That sounds more like a convenient excuse than analysis.
So, where's the data?
Tony|11.6.14 @ 1:16PM|#
..."Republicans did well because of factors other than their policy positions or popularity."...
Damn, you must be dizzy after that!
Show me one poll that had Maryland's statehouse going blue.
"You find me one poll that shows that the American people are on the side of Republicans on... anything."
I think we took one on tuesday that was pretty definitive.
God Tony. That idiocy really made me laugh.
Do you people understand the difference between a poll and a midterm election? One compares people's opinions and the other is when old white guys vote on stuff.
I would say that you're better than that; however, you aren't.
I truly enjoy your misery Tony. I do. You are such a vile evil shit. Its like watching fire ants burn.
Only old white guys vote. I do remember seeing the national guard around the polls ( why do they call them that?) keeping women and minorities out.
Keep it up shit-for-brains, maybe you will burst an artery in your brain.
I believe that this is the 'all those people who didn't vote support the Democrats' theory.
Racist hypocrite.
Yeah, one matters.
One difference: an election provides some indication of intensity. People like the Democrats more than Republicans... but not so much that they'll stand in line for a few minutes.
My son, a lefty, stood in line over 8 hours in Chicago. Mayor Rahm visited them during the wait. They finished at 3 am.
"My son, a lefty, stood in line over 8 hours in Chicago..."
wrong line.
Hey Tony, here's your poll in red & blue:
http://www.270towin.com/2014-house-election/
P.S. I'm a Libertarian so don't go on with the Repbulican crap.
Again, an election is not a poll. If I were inclined in the manner of conservatives, I'd be red-faced and nacho-chomping about the fact that statewide policies designed to disenfranchise people have added illegitimacy to American elections. But we can leave that aside. What's good about polls is that they are measures of total mood. The election polls were biased against Republicans by like 5 points. Intriguing outcome. Nevertheless, let's compare systematic polls on the actual issues, like energy, gay marriage, minimum wage, etc.
Do an American version of Yes, Minister. At least Veep isn't laudatory towards politicians.
Hard to produce movies and entertainment with a certain ideology when your entire labor force belongs to medieval-style artisan's guild.
Yes, Minister was produced by the state owned BBC. There's hope.
One of the great things about that show is that they almost entirely avoided current political issues and focused on the fucked up way government operates.
I think your description of the Hollywood labor cartel is an affront to the dignity of medieval guilds.
House of Cards is pretty good. I've been rewatching the original BBC version. It is interesting to compare the politics in the two. The original is all about the Conservative party and contains a lot of honest conservative arguments. It is interesting to compare it to the American version, which is all about Democrats, but (to my eye at least) in a completely unflattering way.
I'm really interested to see if the end the American version in the same way.
Netflix?
The original is on Netflix.
The American version is highly unflattering, not just towards Democrats but towards the entire, cynical political process. The latter is what I really love about it.
I should give the original a try, too.
Conservatives couldn't do a US version of Yes, Minister. It was built on recognition that the behavior of politicians and beuracrats was the rational responses of normal people to the system imposed by voters, rather than a deliberate conspiracy by inherently evil people to destroy the country.
Conservatives suck at culture and creativity almost universally. They're just pathetic.
Shhhhhh! They might be listening.
I love the "but most people didn't vote" excuse that Stewart and Obama are using. It's the "silent majority" redux! Obama really is turning Nixonesque.
Don't you see. When Obama won..that's a mandate. elections have consequences and all that.
But when 2/3 didn't vote, that means Republicans only got 50% of 1/3 of the voters. 1/6 of eligible voters is actually pathetic, Republicans...you have no majority, you have no mandate.
You know it may not be safe this week to go to Whole Foods or a Pilates studio.
I think Ben & Jerry's is the spot to avoid. Ice cream is a comfort food.
Why apologize for a joke about not voting? Many jokes that JS makes are offensive (not that I care). Why would anyone complain about this one?
If he really wanted to offend, he should have claimed to have voted a straight R ticket.
I don't get it, but a lot of people seem to buy the "voting is a sacred duty" crap. Apparently is is right after the Holocaust and rape on the list of things not allowed to be joked about.
I didn't vote, and I'm not joking!
Have I broken the Social Contract? If I have, can I now declare it null and void?
Ha! You fool! You entered the Social Contract when you were born, you will leave it when you die! If you will not vote, we will find someone else to do it for you! You owe it to all the dead guys who made this world possible!
I didn't either, by conscious decision. I generally have voted, but I decided to try something different this time. I'm pretty satisfied.
It's a ritual that grants state legitimacy, that is what makes it sacred. We've replaced more traditional religious hierarchies in the West with state ones and completely lack self-awareness.
Voting as the Eucharist. I like the analogy.
"Why apologize for a joke about not voting? Many jokes that JS makes are offensive (not that I care). Why would anyone complain about this one?"
Because the Left lost heavily and it would appear to his audience that he might in some small way have contributed to the loss. So, he's attempting damage control.
Maybe if he had provided a pre-joke trigger warning, the apology wouldn't be necessary.
Ah, all the weeping and gnashing of teeth from Tony and Shreek is just delicious. I thought this would get old after 24 hours but no, still just as salty and fresh
Its like chimps in suits. It never stops being funny
Chimps in suits smoking a cigar.
Playing golf.
on roller-skates
A pair of Dutch chimps, who send their love from Amsterdam.
OMG LOOK AT ALL THAT OUTSIDE MONEY BUYING OUR ELECTIONS
Derp.
And we all know how influential all that spending is. Because in 2012...
Why, its almost as though this narrative that 'spending more wins elections' is completely false!? As is the idea that Dems are in any way significantly 'outnumbered'. Because *KORPORASHUNS??*
If these facts disturb you, don't worry = the New York Times will help soothe your mind by perpetuating the bullshit story of The Big Money GOP Baddies
Doesn't Find Anything Funny About Democrats Losing
sad trombone
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJxCdh1Ps48
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Money in politics wasn't such a problem for Obama's heretofore unprecedented spending in his electoral campaigns.
I seem to remember the Dems and Obumbles himself bragging that they were going to spend over 1B on his reelection.
Its ok when they do it.
(Somehow the actual spending was a good bit less. I wonder what happened to the difference?)
It's bragging rights when a Democrat spends that much, since to them the money given to democrats represents "the people". Republican money though, is dirty blood money pried from the fingers of dead child laborers at Koch industries.
The cognitive dissonance of these progressives, socialists and other assorted 'lefties' never ceases to amaze.
Question: what are the TDS's ratings like? As high as ever? When will The Independents catch up?
I just looked at this the other day. TDS gets about 1.2M viewers -- more than Maddow, but less than half of O'Reilly; less than Spongebob and Fairly OddParents, and about the same as a Law & Order: SVU rerun.
That has to be a lot less than he used to get. Slow decline.
Couldn't find ratings for The Independents by itself, but did read a report that FBN was getting around 57K viewers in primetime.
Why are you comparing the audience for a late night show to prime time shows like that means anything? If you moved O'Reilly to 11pm, he'd lose most of his audience too.
The Independents is on directly after O'Reilly. So, it's not exactly equivalent to the 11pm slot.
First, I'm on the west coast where most satellite TV viewers get the Daily Show at 8pm. Second, I was providing context not direct comparisons. Third, O'Reilly's rerun at 11pm is competitive with TDS.
Having watched the episode in question, the summary here is really bad:
This bit was making fun of CNN's "red empire state building/blue empire state building" gimmick and was followed by an equally ridiculous democrat version (blowing up the moon).
Again, the bit here was not based on the premise that the Republicans only won because they spent more, but an imaginary campaign between money and ideas where neither party seemed interested in ideas.
Another bit I loved was making fun of all the silly names the cable news networks had for their election night panels with a panel segment called "The Stack" where everyone was sitting on each other's laps in a big pile trying to argue about the election.
"Just tell me where the big hand is"
"...but I think in a way the Daily Show's not just a comedy show anymore but a show for like-minded people to have their worldview reinforced. Otherwise the over-the-top reactions to "what Republicans winning means" for America from the team blue diehards doesn't require a lot of work to be pretty hilarious."
Ahh, Ed, sounds like you just can't stand getting poked a bit about politics.
Let's see, I could substitute "Reason" for the "Daily Show," and replace you with Stewart, and your sentence up above would fit perfectly here as well. I've seen nothing but over-the-top analysis here at Reason about this election. Relax...it's not the end of the Democratic Party, just like 2006 wasn't the end for the GOP. But your take is hilarious as well...you might apply for a job as a writer on the Daily Show!
Jackand Ace|11.6.14 @ 3:43PM|#
..."Let's see, I could substitute "Reason" for the "Daily Show," and replace you with Stewart, and your sentence up above would fit perfectly here as well."
Feelin a little down, Jack? More stupid than normal, Jack?
I see you missed this part right here:
..."the Daily Show's not just a comedy show"...
Ya, see, Jack, Daily CLAIMS to be comedy when he's called on his bullshit. If no one catches it, because people like you are watching, well, then it's 'commentary'.
Reason makes no such claims.
Is that simple enough for YOU to understand, Jack? If not, I can try to make it simpler yet.
You would need a heart of stone not to laugh
"NPR also pointed out a segment where Stewart made fun of the influence of money in politics:"
Uh,
"In August alone, the DCCC raised $10.2 million?more than twice the $4.4 million the National Republican Congressional Committee raised that month. Over the election cycle, the DCCC raised a total of $171 million to the NRCC's $131 million."
http://www.nationaljournal.com.....s-20141106
So the "influence" causes losses?
As I said, the tone of the segment wasn't "Republicans stole the election with money" but more "Democrats were afraid to argue for their ideas and tried to win on machine politics, which of course led to failure"
Agreed, but that premise is also bullshit. The left is terrified of discovering that the country could reject their ideas, since they had invested so heavily in trying to make reality a "social construct"; they cannot let themselves discover that it was their unreal world of bullshit altruist-collectivist ideology which could be rejected.
Reason corp. is owned by the Koch brothers. Consider the source.
Oh yes Ed Krayewski, Jon Stewart can be very irritating to the uppercrust. He points out the bubble the super rich live in while they suck the blood of the public. It's really not funny but the victims deserve a laugh to help them get through their miserable reality. Cold cynicism won't win any popularity contests with the masses but it must make you feel superior. Poverty can happen to anyone. Look out. It's not funny when it happens to you. LOL.