White House Accidentally E-Mails Torture Report Talking Points to Associated Press


No, none of the Senate's 6,000-page report on torture and brutal interrogation techniques performed by the CIA during the War on Terror has been declassified yet. But we know how the White House is going to respond and what kind of questions they think the media is going to ask because somebody accidentally (or perhaps "accidentally") leaked a four-page memo to an Associated Press reporter.
Because the memo is designed to help the White House prepare for what it sees as the likely big questions, it essentially allows the reader to extrapolate the major points that are going to be coming out of the report, and that's exactly what the Associated Press did. At this point, much of the most important findings of the full report barely counts as a secret. Anybody who has read any stories about the Senate's preparation of this report (and their fight with the CIA over it) knows that the Senate has concluded that torture (regardless of whether the exact word is used) of detainees took place and that it didn't help the United States fight terrorism.
But what is new is that apparently then-Secretary of State Colin Powell and some U.S. ambassadors were kept in the dark about the CIA's actions, and some ambassadors who knew about the interrogations at overseas black sites were told not to inform their superiors at the State Department.
The memo is just one page of talking points and three pages of predictions on the type of questions they think media will ask. The White House seems to think the media is going to ask a lot of questions about why the release of the report is even happening: "Isn't the release of this report endangering American citizens overseas?"; "Did the White House ask Chairman Feinstein to delay release of the report? Why not?"; "Is the Administration further undermining our moral authority?"; "Isn't the release of this report going to destroy our intelligence relationships?" (Answer: Too late); and the hilarious "Isn't this the worst possible time to release this report in terms of unrest in the Middle East and other places where our people are at risk?" Yes, let's fix all that first! To be fair, though, they do also predict questions about whether the government is admitting that torture actually happened and whether the Department of Justice will revisit the decision not to prosecute anybody.
The talking points themselves are of the predictable "Mistakes were made" and "We don't do this anymore" variety. Possibly the most amusingly cynical talking point, which the Associated Press noticed and decided to include in their story, is this one:
"This report tells a story of which no American is proud. But it is also part of another story of which we can be proud. America's democratic system worked just as it was designed to work in bringing an end to actions inconsistent with our democratic values."
Yeah, our treatment of prisoners was terrible, absolutely reprehensible. But the outrage helped certain people get elected! To be fair, it probably helped save us from a President Rudy Giuliani.
Read the memo here.
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Why not ask about the acts instead of the report. The report isn't the news, but of course, the white house press room is stacked with thralls.
*note, this is assuming the memo's predictions regarding what types of questions will be asked is within the ballpark, etc, etc
A lot of the potential questions in the memo seem to revolve around whether releasing this report could piss people off/destabilize puppet regimes/harm diplomatic relationships, which is hilariously DCish in its cluelessness.
NO YOU IDIOTS ITS THE TORTURING THAT PISSES PEOPLE OFF
Yeah, that's what I was trying to say, but I botched it.
You should be working for the White House.
I could be Vice President. Now there's a job I'm almost qualified for (I don't think I'm old enough)
See the link in the AM report about the woman who tests sex toys for a living, for a list of further qualifications.
i.e. Can you masturbate without giving yourself a black eye?
I think you've given us all an incredibly disturbing mental image of how Joe Biden spends his days.
Well done.
I think Joe probably has to use make-up to cover the bruising.
in other news the VP was rushed to the ER after sticking his penis in a 12 gauge, his only comment "buy a shotgun, Buy a shotgun"
Shouldn't this make it easier for journalists to regurgitate them?
Now the press corps will know exactly which softballs to lob.
I don't understand. I thought Obama would be happy with this since the blame is on Bush...or is this the permanent regime defending itself?
Plus, what is new in the report? We waterboarded and belly slapped some terrorists and kidnapped some innocent people.
We should be honest about it and upfront, and hold ourselves to higher standards, but it's pretty mild compared to what goes on all the time in other countries.
I would think so. Just release the talking points and you can save yourself the trouble of talking.
You forgot the scare quotes around "Accidentally", Scott.
First paragraph.
MM "accidentally" forgot to read further...
I was talking about the headline.
Hence, the capital A in my post.
Did you read the second sentence of the post?
Were you listening to the Dude's story?
You're like a child who wanders into the middle of a movie. You have no frame of reference. Shut the fuck up, Donny.
Most accidentally transparent administration in history!
Curse you, and your speedy fingers too!
Well, they might just be trying to act like the "most transparent administration in history"...
Well, it's a small comfort to know that Powell was kept in the dark. I had always thought well of him and was disappointed when it appeared he was complicit in this.
There is plenty to be disappointed about in Colin Powell. He started when he was a General, with me.
Col Hackworth wrote an essay about Powell's career and IIRC commented that he seemed to be promoted/xferred in a way that implied some patron was trying to get him out of various commands before his fuckups came home to roost.
What are your thoughts on that?
I would not be able to guess about a patron, but he sure did seem to keep moving upstairs without much to recommend such.
His dogged MOAR/conservatism in Iraq, Round I was a different thing to point at.
Powell is an excellent example of promotion through going along.
Not, IOW, a leader in any sense of the word. If you need a single word to sum up his career its "apparatchik".
America's democratic system worked just as it was designed to work in bringing an end to better concealing actions inconsistent with our democratic values
FTFY
Torture...Meh...Get back to me when we start drilling holes in people's skulls with power drills, and pealing their faces off with pliers.
... says the pussy who would be crying for his mommy after 8 hours of sleep deprivation.
Sounds like a standard night to a chronic insomniac like me. (Though I know there are other approaches that would work much better and faster on me than simple sleep deprivation.)
Fuck off. This "pussy" went through SERE when you were still sucking your mother's tit.
Anybody who's so terrified of terrorists that they want TOP MEN torturing people is a pussy.
Who said I want "TOP MEN torturing people"? I don't. I'm just not going to get worked up over someone drowning for a few minutes, and then being OK. I've seen what "torture" is, and I'd take a good water-boarding over having my dick burned off by a blowtorch and being skinned alive any day.
"We only rape ! We don't murder."
God, fuck you.
"See?! They're fine!"
Also, the point is it IS torture AND we didn't get any substantially usable info. I try to be a beacon of bright light for this around me not just "a little less dim" than someone else's darkness.
Moron.
"it IS torture AND we didn't get any substantially usable info"
I think they did from KSM....?
That might be my only quibble. I don't want anyone doing that stuff, however.
Let me guess, you are trained in gorilla warfare and graduated at the top of your class in Navy Seals too?
He was saying shit in the other thread about drones that prompted me to make a similar reference to that copypasta. It was after yours, but I hadn't seen this thread at that time. Classic Internet Tough Guy here.
Let me guess, you spent your entire time in the military in a classroom or a reactor control room.
You're so full of shit. You're a liar. I'm calling you a liar.
"We're not as bad as Saddam Hussein! USA! USA!"
*waves American flag*
"To be fair, it probably helped save us from a President Rudy Giuliani."
Given the president we have, I don't feel very saved.
Really? You'd prefer both overseas belligerence and moralistic nanny-statism?
I thought we had overseas belligerence, albeit cut with inconsistency and weakness, and moralistic nanny-statism right now.
The BEST.
The BRIGHTEST.
Did you read the second sentence of the post?
You slay me.
Oh, look everyone! It's Choney! He's showed up to raise strawmen and present false alternatives and put words in people's mouths!
Choney everyone! I give you Choney!
I'm just fucking around until the article about Rand Paul's whiny titty baby tantrum goes live.
I bet you're the kind of guy who would fuck a person in the ass and not even have the goddamn common courtesy to give him a reach-around. I'll be watching you.
Given this Administration's rather aggressive record of going after leakers, I look forward to the prosecution of whoever sent this email.
Yep, this is much better than waterboarding. http://reason.com/blog/2014/07.....least-2300