Is Obama To Blame for the World's Crises?
In practice, our interventions often exact a terribly high price for a dismal result.


The world is a hot mess. Pro-Russian separatists shot down a passenger jet over Ukraine. Iraq is under siege from Islamic radicals, the Taliban is rebounding in Afghanistan and civil war grinds on in Syria.
Israel is fighting in Gaza. Negotiations on Iran's nuclear program have come up empty. China is bullying its neighbors.
When trouble flares up around the world, U.S. presidents get blamed. The latest polls show that only about 36 percent of Americans approve of Barack Obama's handling of foreign affairs—down from 51 percent in May, 2011, after the death of Osama bin Laden.
Republicans have not been reluctant to place responsibility on him. "Obama has presided over a recent string of disasters that make even (Jimmy) Carter look competent," wrote Marc Thiessen, a former speechwriter for President George W. Bush. "The world is on fire—and Obama's foreign policy legacy is in tatters." Sen. Lindsey Graham of South Carolina charged that "his policies are failing across the globe."
The indictment implies that had the administration been tougher or smarter, Ukraine would be intact, Syria's dictator would be gone, Iraq would be stable, Hamas would surrender, China would be a gentle lamb, and Iran would give up its nukes.
Conservatives say Obama thinks he's king. But they seem to confuse him with God.
It's easy to forget that planet Earth has always been a turbulent locale. During the Reagan administration, often fondly recalled as a golden age, there was endless strife hither and yon: civil wars in Central America; Americans taken hostage in Lebanon; a U.S. military barracks blown up in Beirut; and Libyan terrorists bombing a Pan Am plane.
The Soviets shot down a South Korean passenger jet. South Africa's minority white government tried to suppress a black revolt.
Reagan may get credit for causing the collapse of the Soviet Union, but tranquility didn't follow. It wasn't long before Iraq invaded Kuwait, Yugoslavia erupted into bloody ethnic conflict, civil war broke out in one African country after another, famine ravaged Somalia, Palestinians rose up against Israeli rule, and Pakistan and India fought a war after acquiring nuclear weapons.
And the 21st century? It did not turn the world into a serene oasis where America consistently got its way. The 9/11 attacks, the War in Iraq and the War in Afghanistan are still fresh in our minds. The Russian invasion of Georgia, al-Qaida's migration into Pakistan, Somalia and Yemen, Israel's war in Lebanon, the civil war in Sudan—those are easy to forget.
North Korea cheated on a nuclear deal under Bush. Iran took major strides in its own nuclear quest. Vladimir Putin gutted Russian democracy. China tried to intimidate its neighbors.
When was this era of harmony that Obama has somehow forfeited? It never happened. And it's not likely to emerge under his successor. Even at the height of our post-Cold War power and influence, nasty events happened all the time, and we couldn't stop them.
The Cold War era was a bit more controlled, because so many governments were dependent for their security on either the U.S. or the Soviet Union, who could often keep them in line. But there was still plenty of bloodshed in plenty of places—from Vietnam to the Indian subcontinent to Lebanon to El Salvador. Often, neither Washington nor Moscow got what it wanted.
Nor is it obvious Obama could have achieved much with more assertive tactics against the Russian government or the Syrian government: His options were few and unpromising. Nothing short of a NATO military response— which even the hawks didn't propose—would have stopped Putin from seizing Crimea.
Arming the Syrian rebels could have meant giving aid to the militants marching on our ally in Baghdad. Staying in Iraq and Afghanistan, as many Republicans advised, was a formula for wasting American lives to merely delay the inevitable.
Yet the belief persists that the difference between a bad outcome and a good outcome is a willingness by the U.S. government to exercise leadership or show toughness or otherwise get involved. In practice, our interventions often exact a terribly high price for a dismal result. If there are two ways to get a dismal result, maybe we should choose the one that doesn't cost us thousands of lives or billions of dollars.
We like to think we can easily shape the world to suit our preferences. But as the 19th-century historian Henry Adams pointed out, chaos is the law of nature, and order is the dream of man.
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So, apparently the competence and leadership of the American President has no effect on world events. Good to know.
Does this mean we can't blame a Republican President when things go to shit on his watch?
Exactly. It's the same partisan interchange, over and over and over and over again.
Each side has a remarkably short memory.
Is Obama to blame, not completely, but he "owns" it.
He is in THE unique position (more than any living human) to be able to shape the world outside our borders, and in a big way.
Can he solve all the world's problems? No. But it is up to him to articulate and execute a coherent policy, using all the means at his disposal (not just military) to strategically maintain our freedom.
In short, it takes leadership to engage foreign leaders, our own governing bodies, and citizenry to convince and drive towards that goal.
"Obama's foreign-policy mantra is 'Don't do stupid shit.' Err, that is, on the side of not-doing for fear of doing the wrong thing." "Obama may no longer have it in him to make that effort"
http://www.foreignpolicy.com/a.....n_still_do
Our president can screw things up: he can destroy alliances, sow distrust, mess up trade, and start wars. But improving things takes long, hard work.
Obama promised to improve things, but actually seems to have mostly messed things up.
While he didn't cause these events, a confused shrug and ambling back to the golf course probably wasn't the best reaction to all turmoils, international and domestic.
Is Obama To Blame for the World's Crises?
Only through inaction. He isn't called President Bystander for nothing.
Oh, that's not fair. He doesn't stand, he watches CNN from his comfortable chair, and when he sees news reports about things happening he doesn't like, he very actively feels concerned and may even hold a press conference expressing his concern.
President Obama turned me into a newt!
A newt?
I got better.
Anuit?
Inuit all along!!!
BURN HIM!
As is usually the case, the truth is somewhere in the middle. Obama's State Department is incompetent and Obama himself seems completely disengaged from everything going on.
A stronger U.S. President couldn't have prevented all of it, but Putin wouldn't feel so bold, and messes around the world - including the China Sea - wouldn't be this bad if our President had brains and balls.
Exactly. There is a whole range in between "has no power or control" and "is responsible for everything".
Bush covers that range entirely though, right?
But Chapman thinks Obama is groovy. He would be a success if he just didn't have so much bad luck.
Funny how George W. Bush had so much power and thus responsibility that Obama didn't.
It was Bush that decided that Osama bin Laden was not worth pursuing after he escaped Tora Bora.
In Which Dave Weigel Forgets He Was a Member of JournoList
...Yeah, I saw him hanging around an Obamacare rally in DC and was kind of shocked by how he looks in person. Granted not everyone can have movie star looks, but he's pretty cocky for someone that's short, overweight, and has a bad complexion. He thinks he's cool but he's just cynical....
Bullshit. We never stopped pursuing UBL, ever. One thing you don't do when you're hunting someone, is tell them that you're hunting them. You want them to settle down and get complacent. Common Sense 101: If you announce to the world that you're hunting Mr. Bad Guy, Mr. Bad Guy will cut off all outside contact, and will never stay in the same place for more than a few hours.
Of course, you idiots need to believe that the Dali Bama got UBL, when he actually had nothing to do with it other than to approve the final phase of a ten-year-long operation.
No, Bush didn't decide that. You see, there's a great big red button inside the Oval Office that says "GET BIN LADEN" and Bush simply refused to stroll over and push it.
Then he went and spilled coffee on the WORLD PEACE, FREE MEDICAL CARE FOR ALL, and PERFECT WEATHER buttons so they won't work for Obama.
The president is totally powerless and it is of the utmost importance that this powerless office be held by Barak Obama, because of all he will do for us in that powerless office.
OH COME ON! Everyone knows BOOOOSH is to blame.
I absolutely love how Chapman blames BOOOOSH for everything that went wrong before Obama, yet somehow cannot find fault in his own lord and savior.
That is what happens when you base your self image on who you support politically.
What you just wrote there physically disgusts me. I can't comprehend how pathetic life must be for people like that.
Me too. What a dreary way to live.
2201-09 was a period of absolute tranquility and world peace where the US was beloved and admired by all.
Bratfart.com says so.
2001-09 rather. I would hate to misquote Bratfart.
Since you're quoting, please provide a source link.
Don't lock eyes with 'em, don't do it. Puts 'em on edge. They might go into berzerker mode; come at you like a whirling dervish, all fists and elbows. You might be screaming "No, no, no" and all they hear is "Who wants cake?" Let me tell you something: They all do. They all want cake.
Maybe it is Chapman instead of Weigal. They both just love their Obama and only show up to defend him.
Could explain shreek's constant presence here.
In Which Dave Weigel Forgets He Was a Member of JournoList
...Yeah, I saw him hanging around an Obamacare rally in DC and was kind of shocked by how he looks in person. Granted not everyone can have movie star looks, but he's pretty cocky for someone that's short, overweight, and has a bad complexion. He thinks he's cool but he's just cynical....
Washington journalists are generally socially retarded losers.
It was for Ukraine, Syria, and Libya. Either Obama is a complete moron who let events get beyond his control or he is a complete moron who didn't but managed to completely fuck it up. Which is it?
What a fucking laughing stock this clown is. No one fears him. No one respects him. No one but his retarded sycophants like you care what he says.
Putin rolled over Georgia in 2008 out of respect and fear of Bush?
Of course the 9/11 attacks were the ultimate sign of respect and fear.
But BOOSH!! So you are finally admitting Obama is worse than Bush? Your meds are finally starting to work.
I knew a couple of people who thought Georgia got what it deserved from Russia, because BOOOOOOOOSH. Thoroughly vile.
In Which Dave Weigel Forgets He Was a Member of JournoList
...Yeah, I saw him hanging around an Obamacare rally in DC and was kind of shocked by how he looks in person. Granted not everyone can have movie star looks, but he's pretty cocky for someone that's short, overweight, and has a bad complexion. He thinks he's cool but he's just cynical....
*Of course the 9/11 attacks were the ultimate sign of respect and fear.*
Correct, because Bill Clinton taught OBL that we wouldn't do anything serious after the USS Cole and Khobar Towers bombing went unanswered.
When Reagan was President, the world was so scared of him, he had to make a war up with Grenada. Check it out, we lost fewer lives on the battlefield during his 8 years than anytime , when? And I actually made decent money then.
Reagan had the good sense to tuck his tail and run when 241 US Marines were killed in a terrorist attack in Lebanon.
In Which Dave Weigel Forgets He Was a Member of JournoList
...Yeah, I saw him hanging around an Obamacare rally in DC and was kind of shocked by how he looks in person. Granted not everyone can have movie star looks, but he's pretty cocky for someone that's short, overweight, and has a bad complexion. He thinks he's cool but he's just cynical....
Reagan took responsibility for it said ,hands down, the worst thing that happened on his watch.
"TOOK RESPONSIBILITY!"
What a concept. Wonder if he told all the grieving families, that some idiot from California, made a film that caused the deaths of all those fine soldiers?
Reagan had the good sense to recognize an asymmetrical war when he saw one, and started one of the largest build-ups of Special Operations Forces in history after Lebanon.
The 9/11 attacks, the War in Iraq and the War in Afghanistan are still fresh in our minds. The Russian invasion of Georgia, al-Qaida's migration into Pakistan, Somalia and Yemen, Israel's war in Lebanon, the civil war in Sudan?those are easy to forget.
All signs of Bush's strength!
In Which Dave Weigel Forgets He Was a Member of JournoList
...Yeah, I saw him hanging around an Obamacare rally in DC and was kind of shocked by how he looks in person. Granted not everyone can have movie star looks, but he's pretty cocky for someone that's short, overweight, and has a bad complexion. He thinks he's cool but he's just cynical....
Why do you always compare and contrast Obama to Bush? Is it because the worst president in almost a century looks better against the next-to-worst?
That's what happens when a shitty democratic President is chasing 20 yearolds around with a cigar instead of paying attention to the outside world creating an Army of haters to take down our country.
Bush was no Reagan. Obama couldn't run a janitorial company.
When was this era of harmony that Obama has somehow forfeited?
I don't know, but here's a Land of Sunshine.
Poor dude was just hanging out with his homies when all this bad shit went down. He had nuthin' to do with it.
LOL
Every nation on Earth has an Intelligence Community (IC). Every IC has a section that does nothing but analyze the political leaders of potential adversaries. Everything the President of the United States says and does is used to generate an analyses of his probable reaction to events. The Russian and Chinese governments know, with a fair amount of certainty, what the President's reaction is going to be to specific political and military events before they occur.
On August 11th 1984, as he was preparing for a national radio address, Reagan said "My fellow Americans, I am pleased to tell you today that I've signed legislation that will outlaw Russia forever. We begin bombing in five minutes." into a microphone that was supposedly "accidentally" left live. There's some debate as to whether this was truly an accident, or whether it was intentional. Never-the-less, that single statement, whether intentionally broadcast or not, scared the Soviets badly. Here was the American President, joking about initiating a global thermonuclear war. Their view of Reagan as a "cowboy" reinforced, the Soviets began spending on defense at an unsustainable level that eventually lead to their collapse.
Then we have Obama, who famously said "On all these issues, but particularly missile defense, this, this can be solved, but it's important for him (Putin)to give me space,"..."This is my last election. After my election, I have more flexibility." during a whispered conversation with Russian President Dmitry Medvedev at the Nuclear Security Summit in Seoul, South Korea, discussing the proposed NATO missile defense system in Europe. He made it clear that he was willing to make unpopular decisions only after there could be no political repercussions to himself. He put himself and his re-election ahead of negotiations. The Russians didn't fail to grasp this, nor do they fail to grasp that as they orchestrate an invasion of the Ukraine, Obama is on a perpetual fundraiser.
Our skinny, sissified, cowardly, wussy little Marxian twerp.
This guy sets new records for the feminized male.
Joan Rivers was correct.
Sad Obama is sad.
http://sadhillnews.com/wp-cont.....l-news.jpg
Obama: The Buck Stops Some Other Place
He only just read about that in the Times.
"Marijuana legalization? Why'd I have to read about this in the paper, Michelle?"
Que Adam West: "Quickly Robin, to the Golfmobile!"
If it weren't for those damn obstructionist Republicans, he would have had all of these crises handled by now.
I will allow that by this point in a hypothetical McCain administration we'd have troops all over the f'n place.
Oh, it was reasonable to give Obama a chance when the alternative was McCain; lesser of two evils and all that. But there was no excuse to reelect Obama.
This site's readership is becoming overrun with neocons. I can't believe there are comments suggesting Obama should RAMP UP global intervention. Sad.
There's a difference between "intervention", and acting like you're not in a fucking golf-induced coma when it comes to world events.
Know your audience dude. Obama is personally responsible for John's stubbed toe. Think it's pretty shady that the only possible way for Obama not to be the worst person ever is for the world to be in a state of utopia--with not even stubbed toes? Then you just don't know how all-knowing and tyrannical/feckless and impotent Obama is.
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSH
A lot of problems are not Obamas fault however he could act like he cared and explain why we are or are not doing certain things in more than just a 40 second sound bite before his next money grab
I'd like to change my comment after thinking about it. If it were not for Obama getting involved in Libya by helping the rebels instead of Qadafi, who had already given up his weapons to Bush, Qadafi might still have a hold on that nation which then led to the emboldenment of rebels in Syria which Obama once again funded the wrong side and hence we have the now well financed group known as ISIS which of course is now the cause of problems in Iraq so yes I blame for Obama for a lot of things.
I think your first comment hit on something important. Obama and his subordinates may be engaged, but he gives the impression that he's always got something better to do. It's surprising, considering how savvy his communication was during elections.
And that's one of the stupidest fucking quotes you'll ever see. Order is natural, it's everywhere, we wouldn't exist otherwise. This is a quote befitting a central-planner.
Obama couldn't have helped the Islamist nutters much more if he had actually set out to do so. Say what you will about the cowboy he replaced, and aside from the question of whether the nutters are a threat to the US, they were in a hell of a lot worse shape when he left office than they are now.
The question is what Obama promised in order to get elected and what he has actually delivered. Go back to his 2008 and 2012 speeches. What he promised was better relations with our allies and world leadership, among many other things. What he delivered was worse than nothing.
I don't think the president actually can do much either on the economy or world affairs. But if presidential candidates stand up and say "I'm so smart, I know better and I'll deliver all those magical benefits to you", then we should hold them accountable when they fail to deliver.
Regardless who is US president, the question I have is why he should be responsible for the world ? If America is meant to rule the world, then one can also argue that the rest of the world should have a say in the conduct of their policeman.
Nobody is saying that "America is meant to rule the world", nor are we trying to fill the role of world police. We're more like referees at a hockey game, trying to keep the inevitable fight from spilling over into the stands.
That sounds like a world policeman to me. But have it your way, America will not rule world it will simply "referee" it. Why should this be the US presidents job and you elected him referee and what happens if the referee decides to act like a pro wrestling kind of referee (because America is not impartial it takes sides).
Why? Because I prefer that the power vacuum created by the lack of a global referee not be filled by a Putin, Kim Jong-Un, or Bashar al-Assad.
Well, getting drunk, running out on the field, and screaming "come and get me" at the top of our lungs is not a good way of doing that.
You do realize Obama bombed Libya without Congressional approval thus creating a destabilized nation now governed by Islamic Nuts ? He escalated a losing war and suffered 75% of US Casualties in Afghanistan. He increased drone attacks.
Obama is no pacifist, he is an incompetent warmonger who can't formulate a plan. Hell, he at least could have learned some lesson from Iraq, but the arrogant ass is too smart even to do that.
The President is not to blame for the crisis's floating around the world. The people preforming in them are to blame. However, the President is responsible for not heading them off, and reacting poorly when they happen. No President heads off everything, but as far as I can see this one has headed off nothing.
Thanks for the historical prospective, Steve. Someone noted earlier how each side experiences short-term memory. This is so true.
My bad: perspective. Excuse my carelessness
Can you imagine Lindsey Graham as president? That is a frightening thought.
If you consider who is puppeting Obama. Yes he is at fault for all that is evil in this world today. The global syndicate, which ended it's Bilderberg meeting less than two month's ago, is in full control. They know it and are banking it daily. There is proof that Bill Clinton was pupated. From evidence I have gathered, I now believe that. Hilary Clinton will not be the first female president as they do not like her. But the point being is that fault lies directly at those who are in position of control. That happens to be the global elite whom control some 60% of the 223 trillion out there. That is from a Heritage foundation report from just last week.
President Obama is being blamed for his red lines, his decision to not send missle defense systems to Eastern Europe, for a law so poorly written that even his administration cannot obey it, for getting involved in Mass and Flordia cases with out knowing the facts, for letting our European and Asian allies go hang while pursuing the Moslem Brotherhood and Putin. While he is responible for all that I am glad the troops are out of Iraq and will so be out of Afghanistan