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Two Former Utah AGs Nabbed for Corruption, Immigration Activist/Journalist Detained, Yellen Keeping Fed Policies Loose: P.M. Links

Scott Shackford | 7.15.2014 4:30 PM

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    John Swallow and Mark Shurtleff, both former attorneys general for Utah, were arrested today for a host of corruption charges ranging from accepting bribes to witness tampering.

  • Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist Jose Antonio Vargas, who is now an immigration activist after publicly revealing he's an undocumented immigrant to the United States, was detained and arrested while trying to board a flight in McAllen, Texas.
  • A car bomb has killed dozens (estimates range from 40 to 89) in Afghanistan, the deadliest attack in the country this year.
  • Federal Reserve Chair Janet Yellen said today the Fed will keep its monetary policy "loose" until the effects of the financial crisis are completely gone. So two more years and we can declare our own "lost decade"?
  • The Fed also warned of bubbles in social media and biotech stocks, causing some to drop in share price.
  • Passersby smashed in the windows of a hot Jeep in a parking lot in Houston and freed two small children who had been left locked inside while the mother got her hair done. After they confronted the mom, she apologized, and nobody called the police and nobody was arrested.

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  1. Rich   11 years ago

    Sheesh, why doesn’t Afghanistan make car bombs illegal already?

    1. Rufus J. Firefly   11 years ago

      Hello.

    2. db   11 years ago

      If it saves only one life…

    3. Auric Demonocles   11 years ago

      At least make some car bomb free zones.

  2. Bo Cara Esq.   11 years ago

    “nobody called the police and nobody was arrested.”

    Give it time…

    1. rts   11 years ago

      Boys left in hot pickup could lead to charges for Kelowna man

      A 41-year-old man has been arrested for allegedly leaving two children inside a pickup truck in a Kelowna Walmart parking lot during the sweltering heat on Friday afternoon.

      RCMP say they were first called to the parking lot on 1555 Banks Road around 3:25 p.m. PT. When they arrived they found a five- and ten-year boy inside the Ford truck.

      Outside temperatures were hitting 33 C so the officers got both boys out of the truck and into the care of paramedics.

      33 C = 92 F

  3. Rufus J. Firefly   11 years ago

    “John Swallow and Mark Shurtleff, both former attorneys general for Utah, were arrested today for a host of corruption charges ranging from accepting bribes to witness tampering.”

    Brav.

    Bella roba.

    1. Slammer   11 years ago

      Wait until the inmates hear there’s a new fish named John Swallow.

      1. Rufus J. Firefly   11 years ago

        His new nickname will be John Swallows.

        He’ll have no say in the matter.

  4. gimmeasammich   11 years ago

    A car bomb has killed dozens (estimates range from 40 to 89) in Afghanistan, the deadliest attack in the country this year.

    “We STILL got you beat!”

    /Chicago

  5. JEP   11 years ago

    The Fed also warned of bubbles in social media and biotech stocks, causing some to drop in share price.

    Oh good, we’re paying attention to the bubbles that probably don’t exist now.

    1. Pl?ya Manhattan.   11 years ago

      What was the Fed’s job again? I forgot.

      1. Restoras   11 years ago

        So did the Fed.

      2. GILMORE   11 years ago

        You raise a good point – which is that the Fed has no business at all assessing the ‘relative’ frothiness of any given sectors – and one could probably also argue that they’ve got zero business commenting on *asset classes* at all, perhaps aside from commenting on treasury demand.

        They have an interest in maintaining the stability of the banking system and helping protect it against undue shocks – not create them. If biotech and Internet stocks are overvalued, its because of fears of lack of sustainable growth in the *rest of the economy*, which is what they should be more concerned with rather than how investors are pricing future growth assets.

        1. Overt   11 years ago

          Unfortunately, their mandate was changed at some point to include “Alleviating Unemployment” so essentially they are here to prop up economies.

  6. Slammer   11 years ago

    Disco Demolition 2: You better Belieb It.

    1. Pl?ya Manhattan.   11 years ago

      If I lived there, I would go. I would stay near an exit for obvious reasons, but I would still go.

    2. Restoras   11 years ago

      At the bottom of that page…Jenny Dell got engaged to Will Middlebrooks. I has a sad.

    3. Rhywun   11 years ago

      It’s about time. Pop music really seems at a new low point.

  7. Mad Scientist   11 years ago

    After they confronted the mom, she apologized, and nobody called the police and nobody was arrested.

    I will be shocked if she’s still not been arrested a week from now.

  8. Obama's Buttplug   11 years ago

    The Fed also warned of bubbles in social media and biotech stocks, causing some to drop in share price.

    I wonder if they, or their friends and family, shorted social media and biotech stocks in advance of the announcement.

  9. Rufus J. Firefly   11 years ago

    “Passersby smashed in the windows of a hot Jeep in a parking lot in Houston and freed two small children who had been left locked inside while the mother got her hair done. After they confronted the mom, she apologized, and nobody called the police and nobody was arrested.”

    How nice.

    No one called the police.

    Why didn’t the mother bring the kids in? My wife did/does that all the time.

    1. Pl?ya Manhattan.   11 years ago

      This.

      Especially in Houston, in the summer.

      1. Rufus J. Firefly   11 years ago

        And we’re not in Houston!

    2. Pl?ya Manhattan.   11 years ago

      And I think they mean “Got her hair did”.

      1. jesse.in.mb   11 years ago

        Raaacissst

        Also my first thought when I saw that.

      2. Trouser-Pod   11 years ago

        It may be did

    3. Rich   11 years ago

      Isn’t CPS on your ass for exposing the kids to, um, hair vapors?!

    4. thrakkorzog   11 years ago

      http://www.nydailynews.com/new…..-1.1868679

      File this under initial reporting being 100% wrong. It turns out that after taking her kid shopping with her, the mom put the kid in the backseat, then accidentally locked herself out of the car. So she got some stranger to break the window for her so she could pull her kid out. Nobody was arrested because nobody did anything illegal.

  10. Aloysious   11 years ago

    Let’s see: we have immigration covered. Any butt sex or weed here abouts?

    1. Anonymous Coward   11 years ago

      Weed was covered earlier today (but it was a recycled article so I don’t know if it counts).

      How about a story about a torn anus and World Cup soccer?

      1. Aloysious   11 years ago

        You know, if one tears one’s anus while playing kickball, one is doing something really, really wrong.

      2. Slammer   11 years ago

        There’s a PM link about a guy named John Swallow and a guy named Mark Shirt-less, there’s probly butt sex involved.

      3. Ted S.   11 years ago

        So Mascherano really did tear his anus?

        I and a couple of other posters mentioned a story in the Argentine press about it last week, and made fun of the Google Translate (which really was fucked up, of course.)

        1. Rufus J. Firefly   11 years ago

          What size diapers will he need?

          In fact, is it an urban myth porn stars wear diapers?

          1. Ted S.   11 years ago

            Rule 34 implies that there must be diaper porn out there. Whether you wish to search for it is anothr question entirely.

            1. jesse.in.mb   11 years ago

              Isn’t infantilism a commonly known kink? You shouldn’t even have to bother with Rule 34.

              1. Anonymous Coward   11 years ago

                Why yes, jesse. Yes it is.

                1. jesse.in.mb   11 years ago

                  There’s no way I’m going to cli…

                  …yeah, I lied. I clicked, even after hovering over the first one.

                2. Pope Jimbo   11 years ago

                  Pajama boy’s grandpa

                  http://www.funny-pics.biz/grown-up-baby/

  11. Rich   11 years ago

    “While we are making progress in the labor market we have not achieved our goal. There have been substantial headwinds holding the recovery back … Until they are completely gone it calls for an accommodative monetary policy.”

    Once again, would someone *kindly* enlighten me as to what exactly Janet Yellen *does*?

    1. The Last American Hero   11 years ago

      Apparently, she has people skills.

      1. Rich   11 years ago

        It must be something like that. Whenever I see the crap that oozes out of these Fed reports I wonder how she can live with herself.

      2. Bobarian   11 years ago

        +1 Office Space

  12. Pl?ya Manhattan.   11 years ago

    White House: We’ve ‘Substantially Improved the Tranquility of the Global Community’

    REALITY BASED COMMUNITY

    1. db   11 years ago

      That got a GOL from.me.

    2. Mad Scientist   11 years ago

      I’m starting to wonder if progressives believe the nature of reality is something you can vote on democratically.

      1. Pl?ya Manhattan.   11 years ago

        Yes. You and I don’t get a vote.

      2. The Last American Hero   11 years ago

        Works for AGW, why not everything else?

      3. db   11 years ago

        Everything is renegotiable to them. Look back at the 2000 recounts. One after the other, they kept trying to find ways of bending reality. Everything is up for a vote to them; whether it is citizens or “experts” dong the.voting does not matter. Neither do they care about absolutes or objective reality in any way, in fact they deny the ideas.

    3. Slammer   11 years ago

      Maybe they were talking about another planet.

    4. Rich   11 years ago

      You can’t fool *me*, Pl?ya. That’s from The Onion.

    5. Anonymous Coward   11 years ago

      Comrade, there is no truth but Revolutionary Truth.

    6. Pro Libertate   11 years ago

      I suppose it is tranquil before war, as countries spend time mobilizing and arming themselves to the teeth.

  13. Bo Cara Esq.   11 years ago

    “Bob Frey is a Republican candidate for the House of Representatives in Minnesota. He wants a position of responsibility in an era dominated by science, which suggests that our leaders should have some knowledge and/or appreciation for science.

    So how does Bob measure up? Well, he’s actually testified before the states’ Senate Education Committee, where he told them that not only did dinosaurs live alongside humans at one time (which is demonstrably and obviously false), but that dinosaurs still share the world with humans to this day”

    http://www.patheos.com/blogs/w…..z37ZUhSyVZ

    1. Ted S.   11 years ago

      Does he believe that Guam is going to tip over?

    2. Apatheist ?_??   11 years ago

      Maybe he’s talking about birds.

    3. Rich   11 years ago

      dinosaurs still share the world with humans to this day

      Behold.

    4. robc   11 years ago

      Both statements are true.

      All birds are dinosaurs under modern cladistic naming conventions.

      1. robc   11 years ago

        http://www.xkcd.org/867/

    5. Mad Scientist   11 years ago

      Ugh, I hate to say this, but the nut job is actually correct. Birds are dinosaurs.

      1. SugarFree   11 years ago

        If you listen to him at the link, he is talking about actual dino-dinosaurs not being extinct. He claims a Pilosaur washed up on a beach in 2006.

        He thinks The Flintstones is a documentary. He’s nucking futs.

        1. Mad Scientist   11 years ago

          Ha, that’s funny. Pliosaurs were reptiles, not dinosaurs.

          1. SugarFree   11 years ago

            He’s not fooled by your godless taxonomy!

        2. Rufus J. Firefly   11 years ago

          Barney. What a pal.

        3. Pro Libertate   11 years ago

          Really, America, why do you keep electing stupid people with questionable if any ethics to have near total power over you? Also, while we’re at it, why do you let anyone have near total power over you?

          1. ant1sthenes   11 years ago

            Do well-adjusted people actually want to be involved in politics? I think that’s half the problem. We should have a draft, not elections.

            1. Pro Libertate   11 years ago

              It’s the main reason politics are such a disaster here. For those who are leading productive, happy lives, the incentives are against involvement in politics, not for it. It doesn’t help that to engage the beast has a lot of futility embedded in it, given how out of whack everything is today.

          2. mr simple   11 years ago

            Hey, whatever it takes not to have to pay attention and make decisions on our own.

    6. Obama's Buttplug   11 years ago

      Hey Bo Cara Esq., I live in Minnesota and even I don’t give a fuck. Go peddle your tired clown show somewhere else.

  14. Ted S.   11 years ago

    Newsmax is promoting having Todd Akin on?

    They’re proud of this?

    1. jesse.in.mb   11 years ago

      It’s Newmax, you’re surprised by this?

  15. Slammer   11 years ago

    I spent $30,000 to look like Kim Kardashian

    “I was badly bullied at school and it took me two years to realize that I wasn’t [what the bullies were calling me]. I was told every day that I was the ‘ugliest thing alive’ and I should ‘kill myself’.”

    She looks a helluva lot better without all the makeup and shit.

    1. Rich   11 years ago

      Yep. She ruined her ~Sandra Bullock natural look.

      1. Pl?ya Manhattan.   11 years ago

        She was better before the Hobbitoplasty.

        1. Restoras   11 years ago

          Is that the surgery that gives you hairy feet?

          1. Pl?ya Manhattan.   11 years ago

            And short legs and a big ass.

    2. Ted S.   11 years ago

      So now that she looks like Kim Kardashian she really is the ugliest thing alive?

  16. Almanian!   11 years ago

    A car bomb has killed dozens (estimates range from 40 to 89) in Afghanistan, the deadliest attack in the country this year.

    I gotta tell ya – these motherfuckin’ car bombers IMPRESS me. 40-89, with ONE car? That’s pretty impressive.

    You go, Afghanistan! You go!

    1. Swiss Servator, Alles Klar   11 years ago

      I know that is in jest – but I am afraid for too many people I know there…so forgive me if I do not join the laughter.

  17. Auric Demonocles   11 years ago

    hamilton:

    I got tickets to Bears, Broncos, Lions, and Dolphins. If you aren’t going to one of the other four (or want to do a Reason tailgate) I’m down. This does include both night games, the scourge of season ticket holders!

    1. Ted S.   11 years ago

      The only reason to watch any of those games is to see Peyton Manning’s pouty face when he loses.

  18. Certified Public Asskicker   11 years ago

    Barack Obama doesn’t care about black people…?

    Under Obama, the black community has had higher unemployment, more poverty, and less income. He has increased the foodstamp rolls exponentially, but foodstamp enrollment is not prosperity. Is this the grand promise he made to black Americans? Is this it? He’ll get them more foodstamps? Their median household income will fall by 10 percent, but at least they’ll have an EBT card ? is that the hope of which he spoke? They’ll have easier access to welfare, but they’ll fall even further behind in education ? is that the ‘dream’ of his father? He’ll gut the health care system, creating havoc for many Americans, and in the end the black community would be left as uninsured as they were before ? is that the change we were promised?

    Obama and Holder are troubled by racism but completely unconcerned about the success and security of their own race. They don’t want black people to be discriminated against, but they aren’t interested in seeing black folks prosper. They don’t care. They don’t care about black people. In fairness, they also don’t care about white people, Asian people, Latino people, Eskimo people, or any other people.

    1. John   11 years ago

      Blacks are the ones who are going to get fucked the worst by free immigration. The Democratic Party is basically telling the black community after 50 years of marriage, “look bitch, I have a girlfriend now so stay home and deal with it.” It remains to be seen if they will take this sitting down.

      1. Bo Cara Esq.   11 years ago

        “Blacks are the ones who are going to get fucked the worst by free immigration.”

        How’s that?

        1. Pl?ya Manhattan.   11 years ago

          Overlap in the job market.

          1. Bo Cara Esq.   11 years ago

            It is not a zero sum game, is it?

            1. John   11 years ago

              In given labor markets at a given time, yes actually it is.

              1. Bo Cara Esq.   11 years ago

                That’s the kind of non-dynamic thinking that characterizes envious leftists. If immigration address labor inefficiencies it can lead to a better economy and bigger pie for all.

                1. Restoras   11 years ago

                  In the very short-term, John is correct. The supply of anything in the very short term is limited – hence if you flood the market with new supply (of anything, not just labor) the price collapses as the demand is not there to absorb it.

                  In the long-term, you are correct, Bo.

                  1. ant1sthenes   11 years ago

                    How do you know he’s correct in the long term?

                    You’re basically asserting either that there will be demand for unskilled labor at prices and under conditions that make it a better option than welfare, or that the welfare system will collapse.

        2. John   11 years ago

          Because they are proportionally more low skilled workers. And low skilled workers suffer the most from mass immigration.

          “Remarkably, as far as we know, no study has examined if there is a link between the resurgence of large-scale immigration and the employment and incarceration trends in the black population,” co-authors George Borjas, Jeffrey Grogger, and Gordon Hanson write in Immigration and African-American Employment Opportunities: The Response of Wages, Employment, and Incarceration to Labor Supply Shocks (NBER Working Paper No.12518). The authors are careful to point out that even without increased immigration, most of the fall in employment and increase in jailed black men would have happened anyway. Nevertheless, the racially disproportionate effects of immigration on employment are striking.

          http://www.nber.org/digest/may07/w12518.html

          1. Bo Cara Esq.   11 years ago

            Borgas? He’s Pat Buchanan’s go to guy on immigration issues.

            Either way, this statement “he authors are careful to point out that even without increased immigration, most of the fall in employment and increase in jailed black men would have happened anyway” hardly seems to substantiate your point.

            1. John   11 years ago

              which part of the racially disproportionate effects of immigration on employment are striking. do you not understand? And are you so fucking stupid that you can’t understand that “most” does not mean “all”? If immigration is responsible for even 25% of the fall, that is a big deal.

              Try a little harder next time. Or just admit you don’t know what the fuck you are talking about and thank me for enlightening you. Saying that immigration disproportionately affects the black community is hardly controversial.

              1. Bo Cara Esq.   11 years ago

                I understood it all. It suggests that they found that “most of the fall in employment and increase in jailed black men would have happened anyway” but there was a statistically significant difference between whatever minor effect it had on blacks and what it had on other groups. Statistical significance doesn’t mean substantial, it just means a difference likely not due to chance, and it can be a quite small difference in substance.

                1. John   11 years ago

                  No, you didn’t understand it or you didn’t read it.

                  Beyond that, however, the black-white experience differed markedly, especially for low-skilled workers. Take employment rates: from 1960 to 2000, black high school dropouts saw their employment rates drop 33 percentage points — from 88.6 percent to 55.7 percent — the authors found in their analysis of census data from 1960 to 2000. The decrease for white high school dropouts was only roughly half that — from 94.1 percent to 76.0 percent.

                  One reason, the authors argue, is that black employment is more sensitive to an immigration influx than white employment. For white men, an immigration boost of 10 percent caused their employment rate to fall just 0.7 percentage points; for black men, it fell 2.4 percentage points.

                  And if you don’t like that source, learn how to use google. There are any number of sources that say the exact same thing. There is not much dispute about this. You are basically arguing that the world is flat and are too dumb to know it.

                  1. Bo Cara Esq.   11 years ago

                    Sorry, John, this may be CW for you, but it’s something that seems to be very much disputed.

                    http://www.immigrationpolicy.o…..-and-wages

                    1. Bo Cara Esq.   11 years ago

                      From Cato: “It is an especially pernicious myth that low-skilled immigrants harm the employment
                      prospects of African Americans.”

                      http://judiciary.house.gov/_fi…..262011.pdf

                    2. creech   11 years ago

                      Anecdote: just had my roof redone – 100% Hispanics including foreman. Had it done twenty years ago – all black except white foreman. Number of blacks hanging on corners in local town at mid-morning – 2o years ago, one or two; today – clusters.

                    3. Horatio   11 years ago

                      Good enough for me.

      2. Certified Public Asskicker   11 years ago

        Well…

        Black Americans from Chicago to Baltimore are wondering aloud why Obama dedicates so much time and money to the flood of third world immigrants on the southern border, while impoverished people in our own country, living in the same squalid conditions, are ignored. Wealthy, upper class, Ivy League politicians can welcome these illegals with open arms because they are insulated from the economic and cultural destruction that is wrought. But the black communities in our inner cities aren’t fortunate to have the same cushion.

        He includes a video of a very angry black woman.

      3. The Last American Hero   11 years ago

        This is what happens when you pull the D lever 93 percent of the time. Team Red doesn’t waste their time courting your vote and Team Blue takes it for granted.

        1. John   11 years ago

          Exactly. If the black community can’t figure that out, I don’t know what to do for them. If even 25% of the black community went third party or voted Republicans, the Democrats would be doomed as a national party.

          1. Bo Cara Esq.   11 years ago

            Hey, a bunch of them voted in the Mississippi GOP primary recently, what else do you want?

          2. robc   11 years ago

            Nah, they would just adjust their positions until they were back to getting approx 50% of the vote.

            It would be interesting to see what positions they took at that time.

    2. Brandon   11 years ago

      Barack Obama wants black people to stay on the Dem plantation and shut the hell up.

    3. waffles   11 years ago

      Matt Walsh is white.

      1. Certified Public Asskicker   11 years ago

        White man even.

  19. Brandon   11 years ago

    John Swallow and Mark Shurtleff, both former attorneys general for Utah, were arrested today for a host of corruption charges ranging from accepting bribes to witness tampering.

    It strikes me that most if not all government employees meet the elements of Donald Cressey’s(sp?) Fraud Triangle. Most have opportunity, because any oversight they happen to come under happens years after the fact, almost all have rationalization (I’m a public servant, I DESERVE THIS), and many have motivation (I’m a public servant, therefore I’m underpaid). Government employment is just begging for fraud.

    1. Almanian!   11 years ago

      I DESERVE THIS

      Deserve’s got NOTHING to do with it….

    2. Obama's Buttplug   11 years ago

      Works in Atlanta

      DeKalb commissioners’ spending scrutinized

      An outside audit has begun reviewing the last 10 years of DeKalb County commissioners’ spending.
      The audit, which will cost the county $83,000 and be conducted by O. H. Plunkett & Co. accounting firm, will examine commissioners’ spending on their charge cards as well as their expenses for travel, services and goods. All purchases will be reviewed for proof the spending was for county business.
      The DeKalb County Commission unanimously approved the audit in April after an Atlanta Journal-Constitution investigation found Commissioner Elaine Boyer had put thousands of dollars in personal charges on her county-issued charge card. Later reports questioned the spending of Commissioners Larry Johnson, Sharon Barnes Sutton and Stan Watson.
      Commissioner Kathie Gannon, who also faces a recent ethics complaint about her spending, said her budget will be the first one to be audited.

  20. Sticky Fingaz   11 years ago

    So there’s this buxom Senator called Chuck Schumer. And he is one of the obnoxious Progs who is probably fairly bright but constantly complains about the other side’s insatiable desire to murder puppies, punch womenfolk, molest children, fart in bed, etc.

    Anyway, the mainstream media did a write up about how he’s such a camera-humping sociopath that even the other pwoggie narcissists inside the beltway were like, “what’s up with that?”

    Naturally, all his lickspittle staffers were like, “Oh, yeah, Chuck’s not crazy. He’s actually a sly genius!”

    http://finance.yahoo.com/news/…..51359.html

    Here’s the scariest part of the story:

    Indeed, Schumer’s formula appears to have had at least some success. According to the Daily News, 57% of Schumer’s Sunday morning events in 2013 were followed by federal action on the issue. (The Schumer camp believes the paper’s methodology was flawed and that number should be even higher.)

    1. Aloysious   11 years ago

      Calling Chuck Schumer ‘buxom’ is morally reprehensible.

      I laughed.

    2. Ted S.   11 years ago

      I think the proper word isn’t “buxom”, it’s “zaftig”.

      1. Rich   11 years ago

        “Chubby”?

        1. Swiss Servator, Alles Klar   11 years ago

          Mooby

  21. rts   11 years ago

    India caps price of 108 more medicines; drugmakers to take hit

    India has capped the prices of more than 100 drugs used to treat diseases ranging from diabetes to HIV, a move likely to hit the profit margins of drug firms such as Sanofi SA, Abbott Laboratories and Ranbaxy Laboratories Ltd.

    Bring on the shortages!

    1. Almanian!   11 years ago

      Well, you know what they say:

      The only GOOD Indian is….

      1. Ted S.   11 years ago

        certainly not White Indian.

    2. The Last American Hero   11 years ago

      Nonsense. I was assured by the Obamatrons that capping the price merely reduces the pay of evil CEO’s.

    3. Anonymous Coward   11 years ago

      India has capped the prices of more than 100 drugs used to treat diseases ranging from diabetes to HIV, a move likely to hit the profit margins of drug firms such as Sanofi SA, Abbott Laboratories and Ranbaxy Laboratories Ltd.

      If by profit margins, you mean the drug companies will just produce fewer drugs, then yes, I agree.

    4. Ted S.   11 years ago

      India will just abrogate the patents.

      Let’s see if they realize this too has consequences.

    5. SugarFree   11 years ago

      It’s India, so I assume the solution to drug shortages will be to order a little girl to be raped.

      1. Almanian!   11 years ago

        That’s my SugarDree!!

        *chortles and slaps SF on the back*

      2. Pl?ya Manhattan.   11 years ago

        Ahem. Gang raped.

        1. SugarFree   11 years ago

          I was specifically thinking of the recent case, where the 14-year-old sister of an accused rapist was raped as his punishment.

          1. Pl?ya Manhattan.   11 years ago

            I uh, had not heard of that yet. It’s going to take some time for me to process that.

            1. Horatio   11 years ago

              Process it, then go back and read Sheeky’s reason piece about how American wimminz got it bad compared to Indians.

              1. perlhaqr   11 years ago

                So, if this had happened in America, it would be evidence of “rape culture”, but since it happened in India, it’s “cultural diversity”?

          2. perlhaqr   11 years ago

            WHAT THE FUCKING FUCKETY FUCK?

          3. perlhaqr   11 years ago

            Wood chippers. It’s the only answer. Send everyone involved through, feet first.

            1. Whahappan?   11 years ago

              I was gonna ask “why not head first?” but then I realized they’d feel it longer if it was feet first.

  22. rts   11 years ago

    Miami Cop in Trouble after Pulling Over Speeding Driver, who Turns out to be internal Affairs Lieutenant (Video)

    A Miami police officer pulled a car over for speeding last month, which turned out to be a plainclothes internal affairs lieutenant who shoved the door open on the officer after refusing to provide his drivers license, leading to a struggle on the side of the road that was caught on camera.

    As the two were on the ground wresting, another three Miami cops who just happened to be in the area pulled up and piled on the screaming driver? only to pull off when they realized the man at the bottom was an internal affairs lieutenant from their own department.

    That was when the officer Marcel Jackson, the cop who initiated the stop, was sent to his patrol car and internal affairs Lieutenant David Ramras assumed control of the situation.

    1. PD Scott   11 years ago

      “Hold up your badge, so they’ll know you’re a policeman.”

    2. Brandon   11 years ago

      Live by the caste system, die by the caste system.

    3. The Last American Hero   11 years ago

      So even within the ranks of cops, there’s different rules for the King’s Men.

    4. Notorious G.K.C.   11 years ago

      “The department does not use dash or body cams, so it’s not something they would expect.”

      Wow, who would have guessed they don’t want to record these encounters!

    5. perlhaqr   11 years ago

      http://photographyisnotacrime……ieutenant/

      Link with longer write-up.

  23. Rufus J. Firefly   11 years ago

    Washington Post’s finest:

    jbigness1970
    4:02 PM EDT
    The mother wasn’t arrested for child neglect? Unbelievable, especially considering all the news stories of children being left alone in cars lately. The police failed in performing their duties if that mother was not cuffed, booked, and awaiting bail.
    3LikeReplyShare

    bkshane
    4:19 PM EDT
    Agreed — I think all of us learn that sitting in the car with the doors and windows closed is uncomfortable within minutes. How could she be excused?
    LikeReply

    Missy250
    4:23 PM EDT
    It said the police weren’t called… How are they supposed to perform their duties if no one calls them?
    LikeReply

    webg
    4:34 PM EDT
    Well, the police know about it now.
    LikeShare

    evermore
    4:26 PM EDT
    From what I read, no one called the police. They should have. As the article points out, it is a crime in Texas to leave a child in a car.

    I imagine the police are looking into this and trying to determine who this woman is.

    LikeReply

    So. It’s not enough the mother may have learned a lesson. Nope. Let’s RUIN HER FAMILY.

    Assholes.

    1. Slammer   11 years ago

      Let’s RUIN HER FAMILY.

      It’s for the greater good!

    2. Auric Demonocles   11 years ago

      How can you she have learned a lesson if no one from the government taught her?

    3. Mad Scientist   11 years ago

      Lessons can only be learned from the state. Anything you “learn” on your own doesn’t count.

      1. Bobarian   11 years ago

        Yes, you need that diploma (in the form of an arrest record).

  24. Rich   11 years ago

    Brazilian man 126 years old is thought to be oldest living man ever documented

    “If I got to this age it’s because I’ve lived a lot, that’s all.”

    He actually sounds pretty cool.

    1. Almanian!   11 years ago

      Holy SHIT! That’s old. I hope I die before I get old….

      1. Bobarian   11 years ago

        “Yet the batchelor(sic), who never married or had children, still walks without a stick, eats four meals a day and has no health problems – despite smoking a packet of cigarettes a day for the last 50 years. ”

        See, women will kill you! Get the FDA on that, stat!

    2. Rufus J. Firefly   11 years ago

      He’s got fucking turtle DNA!

    3. Ted S.   11 years ago

      He’s not really 126 years old, of course.

    4. Pro Libertate   11 years ago

      Does he own a sword?

  25. Carl is dead inside   11 years ago

    1. Reports: Microsoft Windows now free for all $250 or cheaper tablets

    2. somewhat related, my new favorite song (NSFW lyrics)

  26. Jordan   11 years ago

    Reporter stopped by TSA agent who didn’t know District of Columbia is in US

    Wonder how many people get hassled because the TSA cro magnons don’t know that New Mexico is a state.

    1. Carl is dead inside   11 years ago

      The first step: Ban unsafe oil tanker cars.

      We must prepare and equip emergency responders and reroute trains around population centers and away from water supplies.

      New rail safety rules must be strong and must give citizens the information they need to protect themselves and the power to say no.

      Funny, I don’t see “Approve pipeline construction” on that list.

      1. Carl is dead inside   11 years ago

        oops, that’s supposed to be in reply to OB below

      2. Bobarian   11 years ago

        How about “Stop putting gas in my car, cause there’s no way to get it here”?

    2. Rich   11 years ago

      And, predictably, the “solution”:

      A TSA spokesman told Gray that all of the TSA agents in Orlando are being shown copies of District of Columbia driver’s license.

      It is truly outrageous.

    3. Pro Libertate   11 years ago

      Wait a second. District of Columbia not being in the U.S. is a correct position. This TSA agent should be promoted.

    4. Mickey Rat   11 years ago

      “You have to federalize in order to professionalize.” – Sen. Tom Daschle

  27. Obama's Buttplug   11 years ago

    My House is in an oil train blast zone.

    Oil Train Blast Zone

    1. PD Scott   11 years ago

      Our rail system was never built for this dangerous cargo.

      And yet oil has traveled by rail for well over a hundred years now.

      1. Ted S.   11 years ago

        That’s what pipelines are for.

    2. Mad Scientist   11 years ago

      I heard those oil trains blow up all the time. Like a couple a week. But the Koch brothers won’t let the media talk about it because greed.

      1. CatoTheElder   11 years ago

        I think the culprit is PB’s favorite capitalist, Warren Buffet. Buffet owns railroads; the Kochs own pipelines.

        Seriously, though, pipelines are much safer and more efficient than choo-choo trains for bulk transport of oil and its derivatives. Of course, that only applies to civilized societies that deter thieves from hot tapping the pipeline to steal its contents, which is a big safety issue in third-world hellholes.

  28. Notorious G.K.C.   11 years ago

    Carol Tobias, President of the National Right to Life Committee (NRLC), challenges the Senate: Hold a record vote on the pro-abortion “Women’s Health” act *and* on the Pain Capable Child Protection Act.

    “We challenge you, and the leadership of the majority party, to allow the American people to see where every senator stands on both of these major abortion-related bills. Let the American people see which bill reflects the values of each member of the United States Senate?life or death for unborn children?”

    http://www.nationalrighttolife…..8WSbPldVW9

    1. Bo Cara Esq.   11 years ago

      So many people here defended some of the restrictions on abortion providers on the grounds that the states were just applying the same regulations to them they had for other similar providers, so I guess they will be supporting the Women’s Health Act.

      1. John   11 years ago

        So running an abortion clinic is now a religious calling? If not, then no they shouldn’t.

        1. Bo Cara Esq.   11 years ago

          What are you talking about? I’m talking about the bill in the Senate to make all state restrictions on abortion providers apply to other similar medical facilities.

      2. Almanian!   11 years ago

        deep dish or thin crust
        to circumsize or not
        open borders or not
        vote or not vote
        which video games are fun or are they just for kids
        soccer or baseball or neither of these wuss-ass sports
        squats or thrusts
        Stupider – Salon or Vox?
        Space travel – who gives a fuck, or who gives a fuck?

        Discuss – GO!

        1. Mad Scientist   11 years ago

          Kirk was way better than Picard.

          1. Almanian!   11 years ago

            excellent

        2. sloopyinva (previously -inca)   11 years ago

          What,you got something against atheism vs faith?

          1. Almanian!   11 years ago

            excellent

          2. Mickey Rat   11 years ago

            Yes, they are the same thing1

        3. Aloysious   11 years ago

          Ron Jeremy was better than John Holmes.

          1. Almanian!   11 years ago

            agree…

        4. Slammer   11 years ago

          Roger Moore was better than Sean Connery…i fell for that prank around here.

          1. Pro Libertate   11 years ago

            This is true. He was a much better Simon Templer than Connery.

            1. Bobarian   11 years ago

              Timothy Dalton is a vastly superior ‘creepy old monster hunter’ than either.

              1. Pro Libertate   11 years ago

                I liked Dalton’s Bond, for the record.

        5. perlhaqr   11 years ago

          vi, perl, glock, 10mm.

      3. Notorious G.K.C.   11 years ago

        Would there be a septic tank large enough to hold all the dead babies?

        1. Almanian!   11 years ago

          CAPITALIZM!

          yes

        2. Bo Cara Esq.   11 years ago

          Why marriage=implicit consent!

          1. Notorious G.K.C.   11 years ago

            8% of respondents agree.

  29. Certified Public Asskicker   11 years ago

    Marcotte fatigue is setting in, but for now…

    Marcotte believes women are being forced to hold anti-feminism signs by men

    *Picture of woman holding sign that says “I don’t need feminism…”*

    M’s Reply:

    I’m a strong woman! Ignore the man on the other side of the camera who is eating up all this garbage about how he’s being oppressed by all the meanie feminists demanding equality.

    1. John   11 years ago

      It is as usual all about Amanda’s hatred and total disdain for other women. If you think she hates men, that is nothing compared to how much she hates other women, which is of course dwarfed by how much she hates herself.

      1. Certified Public Asskicker   11 years ago

        which is of course dwarfed by how much she hates herself

        I suggest her road to learning to love herself could start with a better haircut.

      2. Horatio   11 years ago

        This is most women no? From my experience, the hate they have for each other is a constant, terrifying, and driving wonder to behold.

    2. SugarFree   11 years ago

      Only false consciousness can explain someone disagreeing with Amanda Marcotte.

    3. Carl is dead inside   11 years ago

      There’s a man on the other side of a fucking webcam?

      Is she actually this stupid?

      1. Almanian!   11 years ago

        Yes. Yes she is.

      2. SugarFree   11 years ago

        Yes. Someone should make an entire PHI 101 textbook on logical fallacies just using Marcotte examples. I’m pretty sure she has committed everyone of them multiple times. She’s probably even created a few new ones.

        1. Almanian!   11 years ago

          God – that would be awesome! “Introduction to Practical Logic – Marcotte Style”

          Unfortunately, you’d have to give them away.

        2. Carl is dead inside   11 years ago

          At first I thought maybe it was a one-off, or that it was meant to be figurative…

          …nope! She mentions an unseen camera-holder two more times.

      3. Certified Public Asskicker   11 years ago

        Apparently you don’t understand the patriarchy or something…I don’t fucking know.

        This is probably my last Marcotte link. I picked up the torch from Immaculate Trouser I believe, but I am tapping out of visiting Raw Story.

        1. Brandon   11 years ago

          There goes half of Marcotte’s readership.

          1. Certified Public Asskicker   11 years ago

            I wish this was true, but I have seen the comment section.

            *Feels very cold*

        2. Rufus J. Firefly   11 years ago

          I clicked on one of those links, like, a long time ago and vowed to never do so again. And I haven’t.

          She’s just not worth it. She’s a mental midget. Contributes absolutely nothing to intellectual discourse.

          Won’t miss it.

          Just saying.

          1. Certified Public Asskicker   11 years ago

            I attempted to try and avoid all sources of news earlier this year, but I failed after only a few days.

            I need to try that again, but first step, avoid RS.

      4. Doghouse Reilly   11 years ago

        No, you rape-enabling misogynist swine, it’s a metaphor for like, society and rape culture and stuff on the other side of the webcam, you know, like, the internet! Maybe take if you took off your patriarchal blinders for a fucking second you’d be able to wrap your tiny androphile brain around the concept!

        /2ndWaveFemtard

        1. Carl is dead inside   11 years ago

          Wouldn’t Marcotte, Jezebel, et al. qualify more as third-wavers?

          1. Doghouse Reilly   11 years ago

            I suppose you’re right. Gee, an edit button would be really nice…

          2. jesse.in.mb   11 years ago

            Would they? I think Jezebel started off third wave, but there’s been a heavy resurgence of second wave influence in internet feminist sites. Morcotte may be synthesizing strains of both third and second wave, but she’s always struck me as being grounded in second wave.

            1. Carl is dead inside   11 years ago

              Eh, maybe. My knowledge of the “waves” is a bit fuzzy, which is partially why I phrased my comment above as a question rather than a statement.

            2. SugarFree   11 years ago

              The third wave, for all their sex-positivity and blah blah, have been retrogressing to second wave anger through the internet echo chamber effect. The moderates get squeezed out because they cannot match the energy that insanity gives the fringe. Between the pidgin of Tweeter and the near-illiteracy of tumblr, incoherency is given a pass if it has sufficient volume.

              1. jesse.in.mb   11 years ago

                I don’t think it’s just that. Feminism seems to have been reordered to fit comfortably in the SJ movement, which requires a Marxist analysis of the scenario.

                If you’re fighting a righteous fight to overthrow the patriarchy instead of just trying to find a comfortable place of equality why wouldn’t you be angry?

  30. jesse.in.mb   11 years ago

    Connecticut man arrested for ‘passive-aggressive’ stabbing of watermelon
    Carmine Cervellino of Thomaston charged with disorderly conduct and menacing.

    Woman says he carved up watermelon in front of her in a threatening way.

    Before reading Reason I would’ve found a headline like this surprising. Not anymore. THANKS REASON!

    1. Almanian!   11 years ago

      Holy motherfuck.

      The end times are nigh, jesse.

      Hope I get to have a beer with you before The End?

    2. Rich   11 years ago

      “Disorderly conduct and menacing”?!

      A good lawyer should be able to set him up for life.

      (Also, it’s far from clear in the story what is really going on ….)

    3. Rufus J. Firefly   11 years ago

      Call me when he carves up a coconut.

      Then I’ll worry.

    4. Ted S.   11 years ago

      It’s Connecticut. What you do expect?

  31. sloopyinva (previously -inca)   11 years ago

    You guys have pretty much stopped responding to my cop posts so I may just stop.

    But first, I want to remind you that although Johannes Mehserle more or less executed Oscar Grant and got all of a year in jail…and a 17 year old kid gorm23 years for breaking into a cop’s house and killing…a dog.

    http://www.wptv.com/news/regio…..police-dog

    1. Mad Scientist   11 years ago

      We’re no longer shocked by their dog shooting ways, Sloops. You’ll have to dig up stories that incorporate weed, immigrants, and butt secks to get us going now.

    2. Brandon   11 years ago

      Eventually the nuts just go numb, Sloop.

      1. Carl is dead inside   11 years ago

        Yeah, it’s just too depressing.

    3. Almanian!   11 years ago

      Makes sense. Killing a cop’s dog = worse than Hitler. Killing a person who probably deserved it (he must have done SOMETHING wrong to have a cop shooting at him)…hey, don’t do the crime if you can’t do the time, amirite?

      So – IMHO, go results, will be upheld on appeal by REAGAN appointed judges.

      hth

    4. CatoTheElder   11 years ago

      Keep this in perspective: Armed burglary is a very serious crime.

      Killing a dog per se is much less serious, but doing so in connection with an armed burglary aggravated the seriousness of the crime.

      Twenty-three years may or may not be excessive, but no doubt the punishment for Oscar Grant’s murder was incredibly lenient.

  32. Notorious G.K.C.   11 years ago

    War on women!

    “She is a good media figure because of her looks, but she doesn’t seem to know or understand anything about teaching and why tenure matters … I know it sounds sexist to say that she is pretty, but that makes her telegenic, even if what she has to say is total nonsense.”

    Wait…I just realized it’s *not* sexist, because this pretty woman was criticizing teachers’ unions.

    http://nymag.com/daily/intelli…..smart.html

    1. Almanian!   11 years ago

      Michael Regnier @MichaelRegnier
      Guess I’ll teach my daughters not to look too pretty, so their arguments can be taken seriously. Thx @DianeRavitch! http://nym.ag/1r1gbec

      lulz

      1. Brandon   11 years ago

        And the always-classy Ravitch:

        Diane Ravitch @DianeRavitch
        Follow
        @MichaelRegnier Campbell Brown has no arguments or logic.

    2. Doghouse Reilly   11 years ago

      War on women, by women, for women.

    3. Anonymous Coward   11 years ago

      For anyone who’s curious, here’s Ms.(?) Ravitch. It’d be a little too much like fapping to another man. But it does somewhat explain her objection to pretty women (Campbell is a high 7/low 8).

      1. Aloysious   11 years ago

        do… not… clik…

        1. Rufus J. Firefly   11 years ago

          I clicked.

          1. Bobarian   11 years ago

            I clicked also, I now believe Ravitch has a penis.

        2. Almanian!   11 years ago

          I….I….I ignored you….

          DEAR GOD!!!

          *runs away, crying*

      2. Certified Public Asskicker   11 years ago

        Campbell gets an 8. Definite milf.

        *TIWTANLW

    4. Carl is dead inside   11 years ago

      The twist?

      Diane Ravitch: Campbell Brown Shouldn’t Worry Her Pretty Little Head About Education Policy

      By Jonathan Chait Follow @jonathanchait

      1. When even Chait thinks you’re a mendacious tard…

      2. Chait managed to write something that wasn’t mendacious or retarded.

  33. sloopyinva (previously -inca)   11 years ago

    These three words should never appear in the same sentence:
    Janet
    Hellen
    Loose

    That is all.

  34. Aloysious   11 years ago

    Music for no particular reason.

    1. Overt   11 years ago

      Many, many, many games of Starcraft were lost to Korean kids while listening to this album. It was in the 6 disc changer my roomie and I would load up prior to going online. One Conversation while waiting for a game to begin:

      Roomie: Huh…they really must not like that joan crawford person, huh?
      Me: Did you put Rush in the changer again? You better not have put Rush in. If I hear another Rush song, I swear to God I’ll kill all your drones.

  35. DEG   11 years ago

    FBI Academy trainees get a free trip to the Holocaust Museum. Ostensibly to learn about the evils that can a totalitarian state can do, but I think it is really to pick up ideas.

    1. Bobarian   11 years ago

      to learn about the evils that can [happen to] a totalitarian state can do when it gets caught…

      FTFY

  36. DEG   11 years ago

    British spies can manipulate polls. Hmmmm..

    1. Carl is dead inside   11 years ago

      British spies can manipulate online polls — or trick the world into thinking a video or web page is going viral.

      GCHQ == 4chan?

      /notmyjoke

  37. Notorious G.K.C.   11 years ago

    Northern Ireland bakery faces fines for refusing to bake a Bert-and-Ernie gay marriage cake.

    Northern Ireland doesn’t recognize gay marriage, but the rest of the UK does.

    http://www.belfasttelegraph.co…..12923.html

    1. Pro Libertate   11 years ago

      To be fair, Bert and Ernie are heterosexual. I know this, because a friend of mine saw Bert banging some waitress at Waffle House.

      1. Obama's Buttplug   11 years ago

        Ernie’s gay; Bert is bi.

        1. Pro Libertate   11 years ago

          Bullshit. It’s so bizarre than any time that men are portrayed as close friends or as roommates in fiction that they are claimed as gays. Except when they actually are, then I guess it’s not bullshit.

          1. Slammer   11 years ago

            Newsflash: They’re puppets.

            1. Pro Libertate   11 years ago

              What, you believe everything PBS tells you?

          2. Obama's Buttplug   11 years ago

            My point was that Bert banging a Waffle House waitress does not prove Bert & Ernie aren’t gay.

            1. Pro Libertate   11 years ago

              My friend says he does it every time Bert goes there. It’s like a tip.

              1. Bobarian   11 years ago

                Is your friend Ernie?

                1. Pro Libertate   11 years ago

                  No. He’s this guy who paints numbers all over the place. Haven’t seen him in a while, since he moved on up to a deluxe apartment on the east side.

      2. SugarFree   11 years ago

        They are both being fisted by guys all the time. They are both gay.

        1. jesse.in.mb   11 years ago

          Jeez, SF, why do you have to label things.

          1. SugarFree   11 years ago

            I’m not judging, I just think if anything is gay, spending a goodly portion of your day with a guy’s hand up your ass qualifies.

            1. Pro Libertate   11 years ago

              You realize, of course, that these puppets lack digestive systems, let alone anuses.

              1. Tonio   11 years ago

                You realize, of course, PL, that you lack a sense of humor.

                1. Pro Libertate   11 years ago

                  You think it’s funny lacking vital internal organs?

            2. jesse.in.mb   11 years ago

              Someday the sex of the person whose hand is up your butt won’t matter nearly as much as that you love him/her/Hex, or at least that his/her/Hex’s hands are appropriately sized and they’ve used plenty of lubricant.

              1. Pro Libertate   11 years ago

                In fact, they lack sexual organs altogether and any chromosomes, so I guess it’s hard to assign genders to them at all, let alone sexuality.

    2. Notorious G.K.C.   11 years ago

      William III enjoys a posthumous triumph:

      http://www.belfasttelegraph.co…..67397.html

    3. Rufus J. Firefly   11 years ago

      I thought it was Ernie and Bert. Not Bert and Ernie.

    4. sloopyinva (previously -inca)   11 years ago

      Um, I hate state licensure and regulation, but should a modern, and ostensibly civilized, nation be allowing any two people to form a union that would want a Bert and Ernie cake for a life event after the age of 4?

  38. Aloysious   11 years ago

    NSFW Don Felder.

  39. Slammer   11 years ago

    Rolling Stone: The 5 most dangerous guns in America

    Comments:

    BuzzKillington ? 3 minutes ago
    Five most used currencies in the world

    1. Money
    2. Cash
    3. Scrilla
    4. Dough
    5. Loot

    Five most dangerous bodies of water
    1. Pools
    2. Lakes
    3. Rivers
    4. Oceans
    5. Ponds

    Top five Left-wing fails.

    1. Communism.
    2. Detroit.
    3. You can keep your Health Insurance if you like it.
    4. MSNBC.
    5. This article.

    1. Aloysious   11 years ago

      There’s more rock ‘n roll in this thread than in Rolling Stone.

    2. Carl is dead inside   11 years ago

      For anyone wondering, the list they give is:

      Pistols
      Revolvers
      Rifles
      Shotguns
      Derringers

      …um, OK then.

      1. Pro Libertate   11 years ago

        What, no howitzers?

        1. Carl is dead inside   11 years ago

          I know you’re joking, but:

          Using firearm trace data from the ATF, as well as FBI homicide records, we determined the types of guns most often recovered from crime scenes and/or used in murders.

          So it has absolutely nothing to do with how “dangerous” they are, just how often they are used.

          1. Pro Libertate   11 years ago

            Okay, so it’s okay to own a howitzer then?

            1. Wasteland Wanderer   11 years ago

              Make it a blackpowder, muzzle-loading howitzer and you don’t even need a license.

              1. Pro Libertate   11 years ago

                Wow, America is still awesome sometimes, you know?

            2. Pl?ya Manhattan.   11 years ago

              You have my permission.

              1. Bobarian   11 years ago

                ” recovered from crime scenes ”

                So… not even used in a crime, just recovered from a location.

                HOLY FUCKING MENDACIOUS BULLSHIT!

    3. Carl is dead inside   11 years ago

      The author’s Twitter bio:

      #DrugWar journo. Ex @AlterNet editor. Recent bylines @RollingStone, @TheNation. Freelance misandrist

    4. SugarFree   11 years ago

      It’s just so dumb. It’s amazing.

      1. Horatio   11 years ago

        I was very excited to read this clickbait, hoping to already own all of them. Alas, I had a sad.

        1. perlhaqr   11 years ago

          I have one of each of those!

          Well, OK, my tinypistol is a Beretta, not an actual “Derringer” brand tinypistol, but whatever.

    5. Warty   11 years ago

      Popular among handgun-owners, pistols are defined by their built-in barrel and short stock.

      Incredible. It’s not even wrong.

      1. SugarFree   11 years ago

        Built-in barrel? Gasp!

      2. Pro Libertate   11 years ago

        Okay, so handguns are popular among handgun owners?

        1. Mad Scientist   11 years ago

          What are the chances?

    6. Warty   11 years ago

      This is as good a place as any to talk about guns. I have a bug up my ass to get a 10mm pistol. Talk me out of it.

      1. SugarFree   11 years ago

        The metric system is French. You might as well buy a gun that fires eclairs.

        1. sloopyinva (previously -inca)   11 years ago

          Or cheese.

          Mmmmmmm, cheese gun.

          1. SugarFree   11 years ago

            pew-pew-?poisses

      2. Trouser-Pod   11 years ago

        Umm…well, the .40 took the wind out of it, pretty much.

        I had one way back in the day, and only got fire 1 mag out of it before it was stolen. It was a an early Delta Elite. Can’t remember much about how it shot.

        Where does the desire to get that particular caliber come from, anyway?

        1. Warty   11 years ago

          No good reason, really. Because it’s overpowered, I suppose.

          1. Pro Libertate   11 years ago

            Look, dude, why not a arquebus? Smoothbore, without all of those requirements for a specific caliber of bullet. Just load whatever and fire.

            1. Warty   11 years ago

              True, but I think my gun-as-club needs are met by my Mosins.

              1. Pro Libertate   11 years ago

                Only when you’re involved in commie cosplay.

              2. Pl?ya Manhattan.   11 years ago

                I put a synthetic stock on my Mosin. It actually looks pretty cool.

      3. Dave C   11 years ago

        Price and availability of 10mm ammo?

        1. Warty   11 years ago

          True, but $400 for 1200 for FMJ practice ammo isn’t that much worse than .45.

          1. Trouser-Pod   11 years ago

            Unless you are different with “new toy” emotions, I would suspect, Warty, that you’ll probably like it for a while, and then go, “Ehh…” I’d find it sad, on your behalf, for you to put out the $ for it, only to become disenchanted with it.

            Do you have a manufacturer/model in mind?

            1. Warty   11 years ago

              I love each and every one of my guns, whether I use it or not. And I like Glocks. I’ve toyed with the idea of using a full size G20 as a carry piece. I’m a moderately giant dude and concealment should be no problem.

              1. Trouser-Pod   11 years ago

                Would it be your primary CCW?

                1. Warty   11 years ago

                  Doubt it. I have several 9mm pistols, and it’s a smarter carry choice in any case. Still.

                  1. Trouser-Pod   11 years ago

                    Not sure I agree with the 9 for all around defense (I prefer my .40, but definitely don’t hate 9’s). That said, the more I think about it, I’m not sure not buying a 10 is a good choice.

                    If you have the $, help a mfg. out and buy a pistol, ya know? Do it and see what you think. If you don’t like it, someone is bound to buy it off you.

                    1. Warty   11 years ago

                      My opinion on the 9mm vs .40 vs .45 debate is this: every pistol round sucks. All of them. The only things that really matter are penetration and mag capacity. If we’re talking Glocks, for instance, 18 9mm holes beat 16 .40 holes which beat 14 .45 holes.

                    2. Warty   11 years ago

                      To say nothing of the fact that the smaller round allows quicker and more accurate rapid fire.

                    3. Bobarian   11 years ago

                      This^^ A 10mm is a high powered .40.

                      I’d research the particular gun, though, as I have heard of some 10mm busting frames and wearing out quick because of over-pressurization. Don’t remember what brand off the top of my head, but I think it was one of the FBI approved pieces.

              2. Pl?ya Manhattan.   11 years ago

                I’m thinking of getting the new Glock in .380. Not in stock around here. Yet.

                1. Warty   11 years ago

                  I want one of those, too. My dream is pretty much to be the Mr. Creosote of gun shops.

              3. widget   11 years ago

                I fail to see how your fine armaments will defeat, or even keep at bay, state department GS7 girls, steeped in cultural Marxism, with military-grade General Electric robots at their command.

                But I’m not against optimism.

      4. Wasteland Wanderer   11 years ago

        Talk me out of it.

        Umm….The ammunition is expensive and difficult to find, it has significant recoil, and it makes female FBI agents cry?

        1. jesse.in.mb   11 years ago

          it makes female FBI agents cry?

          It took Warty’s jerb!

      5. Pro Libertate   11 years ago

        What, American weapons aren’t good enough for you?

        There’s something hopelessly primitive to me about these kinetic weapons. I feel that for someone like you, an energy weapon is better. Provided that it delivers death or other forms of chastisement in BTUs, not megajoules.

        1. Trouser-Pod   11 years ago

          So, nothing in the 40-watt range, then?

          1. Pro Libertate   11 years ago

            You know, it just occurred to me that 40 watts seems incredibly low for an energy weapon.

        2. Warty   11 years ago

          Hey, just what you see, pal.

          1. Pro Libertate   11 years ago

            Of course, with energy weapons, it’s important that they sound awesome when fired. Not piddling zappy sounds.

            1. Trouser-Pod   11 years ago

              Is it OK if they go VWAP ?

              1. Pro Libertate   11 years ago

                That’s acceptable, but not when contending with xenomorphs.

                1. Trouser-Pod   11 years ago

                  How could we know? We never got to see them in use!

        3. Wasteland Wanderer   11 years ago

          10mm was developed in the US by Jeff Fucking Cooper. Just sayin’.

          1. Pro Libertate   11 years ago

            Metric is foreign, regardless of the device in question’s provenance.

          2. Warty   11 years ago

            Enjoy some news anchor shitting her panties over Jeff Cooper.

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_j35de2QOd4

            1. Wasteland Wanderer   11 years ago

              Except for the news lady looking like she needed some Depends, that was actually pretty balanced.

      6. db   11 years ago

        I think you should buy two instead of one.

        Seriously, the brass is hard to find, factory ammo is expensive, and you’ll shoot a .45 more often. But for collecting purposes, I can see it. Also, you could probably get a .40 s&w barrel for it if you really wanted to shoot it a lot.

        1. Warty   11 years ago

          As a practical self-defense choice, it seems to me that 9mm is the best option. I don’t see a real reason for .45 unless you want to shoot from a suppressed weapon. But a stupidly powerful autopistol has its charms.

          1. Mad Scientist   11 years ago

            And a Desert Eagle that’s one great big ol’ pistol
            I mean, 50 caliber made by bad ass Hebrews
            And some surplus tracers for that old bar of Slayton’s
            Soon’s it gets dark we’re gonna have us a time
            We’re gonna have us a time

            1. Warty   11 years ago

              I shot a .44 Desert Eagle. It was somewhat difficult to avoid limp-wristing the damn thing.

      7. Horatio   11 years ago

        Here’s how I see it:

        9MM is great for plinking, bit cheaper. If you’re worried about the lack of stopping power, get a man’s gun (.45) and be done with it. Going 10MM is and expensive compromise.

        1. Warty   11 years ago

          Compromise between what? You realize 10mm is quite a bit more powerful than the .45ACP, right? Maybe you’re thinking of .40S&W. Which, I agree, is a pointless compromise.

      8. perlhaqr   11 years ago

        COME TO THE DARK SIDE!

        It’s the ultimate answer to the “9mm vs: .45 ACP” debates.

        Dooooo eeeeet.

        (If 10mm gains enough popularity, people will start making more ammo for it and I’ll be able to find the fucking stuff.)

        1. Wasteland Wanderer   11 years ago

          If I were to ever buy a 10mm, I think it’d be one of these things:

          http://www.stiguns.com/the-sti-perfect-10/

          1. perlhaqr   11 years ago

            God *damn*. It’s pretty, but I think I’ll stick with my G20 for a fifth of the price.

            Or finally get around to making the CZ-52 in 10mm I’ve been thinking about for years… 😀

    7. sloopyinva (previously -inca)   11 years ago

      Oh god, the comments are just savaging her. Was it posted on Drudge or something?

      1. Slammer   11 years ago

        Ha! Sloopy with more dangerous gun list!

        This one was good:

        Jon ? 20 minutes ago
        5 Largest Street Gangs in America

        1) Local PD’s
        2) Sheriffs Dept.
        3)DHS
        4) State PD’s
        5) Any other quasi-government 3-lettered Agency

    8. Brandon   11 years ago

      Apparently there is only one kind of Glock. I learned something new today.

    9. Brandon   11 years ago

      Oh God, it just keeps getting worse.

      While high-capacity-magazine assault weapons have bee linked to large numnber of mass shootings over the past 30 years…

  40. widget   11 years ago

    I can’t read 300 comments.

    “The Fed also warned of bubbles in social media and biotech stocks, causing some to drop in share price.”

    I don’t know about the stock value of social media and biotech stocks, but I’m thinking one is not like the other.

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