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Drone-Killing Memo Released, EPA Gets Gassy, Hard Look at Lerner's Hard Drive: P.M. Links

J.D. Tuccille | 6.23.2014 4:30 PM

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    A previously secret Justice Department memo justifying the drone assassination of U.S. citizen Anwar Al-Awlaki was released today by a federal appeals court. The document argues that neither the law nor the Constitution prevented the president from ordering the killing. Its author, David Barron, recently won confirmation as a federal judge. Hmmm…Wonder whether he would have released the memo…

  • Fresh from claiming she and Bill were "dead broke" when they left the White House, Hillary Clinton now boasts that she pays taxes "unlike a lot of people who are truly well off." If she likes it so much, she can pay mine, too.
  • Despite trimming the Environmental Protection Agency's claims of authority just a tad, the Supreme Court largely let stand the EPA's efforts to regulate the emission of "greenhouse gases." So watch that spicy food.
  • Syria's government claims it has surrendered the last of its chemical weapons. Uh huh.
  • An island on Titan, a moon of Saturn, mysteriously disappeared over the course of just a few days. Astronomers say they hope J. J. Abrams has nothing to do with the explanation.
  • The odd fate of former IRS official Lois Lerner's hard drive, which reportedly crashed and ate two years worth of email, has taken on a life of its own in the investigation of the tax agency's treatment of small-government groups.

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  1. Fist of Etiquette   11 years ago

    An island on Titan, a moon of Saturn, mysteriously disappeared over the course of just a few days.

    China and Japan are still fighting over it, though.

    1. waffles   11 years ago

      I've always wondered this about the oceans of Titan, what happens if you were to set fire to them? Does the combustion require and oxygen-filled atmosphere? Fizzle or Kaboom?

      1. waffles   11 years ago

        Nevermind. A quick google search has dashed my dream of setting a world on fire.

        1. Notorious G.K.C.   11 years ago

          You just want to watch the world burn.

      2. Pro Libertate   11 years ago

        Want fire? Just add oxygen.

        1. Juice   11 years ago

          That would be interesting. On Earth the limiting agent is the fuel. On Titan it's the oxygen. I wonder what kind of economy would spring up when someone produces and sells oxygen to the Titan colonists.

          1. Pro Libertate   11 years ago

            Auric and I are already manufacturing oxygen from the ice orbiting Saturn. Which, conveniently, can also be sent to Earth, unless bills are paid, then it stays in orbit around Saturn.

            1. JW   11 years ago

              All these worlds are yours, except Titan. Attempt no landing there. No, wait, wait. Go ahead and try and landing there.

              1. Pro Libertate   11 years ago

                On a moving island? Not with fucking robots you aren't.

      3. Tonio   11 years ago

        Yes, combustion requires oxygen, so fizzle.

        1. CE   11 years ago

          Smoke monster?

      4. Suthenboy   11 years ago

        o2 is required.

        take the 2 inch cap out of a 55 gallon drum of gasoline. drop a lit match in and see what happens.

        1. BigT   11 years ago

          It depends on how full the tank is and how it has been handled - air might have gotten in. You could be surprised. I would not recommend trying this at home.

          1. db   11 years ago

            Interestingly enough, fuel tanks are designed in ways to limit ullage space getting into the flammability limits, upper or lower. Gasoline tanks are generally designed to limit venting such that there is too much gasoline in the vapor space to burn. Kerosene and diesel tanks are designed to get lots of air in there to keep the oxygen in the vapor space above the explosive limit. Good thing to know if you ever, say, convert an airplane from a gas to a diesel engine...

            space

        2. Scruffy Nerfherder   11 years ago

          While I've done this sort of thing, I've never been comfortable with it. Particularly not when I see guys putting their ciggies out in an open container of fuel.

        3. paranoid android   11 years ago

          I'd love to see an alternate ending to Die Hard 2 where McClain throws the lighter into the jet fuel and it does nothing, and he just sits there looking disappointed while the plane flies away.

    2. Tonio   11 years ago

      We need to get some commentary from Cong. Hank Johnson.

      1. Scruffy Nerfherder   11 years ago

        +1 Guam

      2. grrizzly   11 years ago

        He's got only $448,000 in donations. Pathetic.

        1. anon   11 years ago

          If he gets any more, Georgia might tip over.

        2. Tonio   11 years ago

          But how much does he really need to win re-election? Remember, that this is Cynthia McKinney's former district so it looks like Team Blue has a lock on it, and he's unlikely to be primaried.

    3. Root Boy   11 years ago

      Alien terraforming, or maybe China is out there drilling for oil and just had a major spill

      1. Injun, as in from India   11 years ago

        Im tellin' ya. It was hydrofracking. They fracked the rock and caused the island to sink.

        1. waffles   11 years ago

          Why would you need to frack in methane world? I think it was the Pirates of Dark Water.

    4. Brian D   11 years ago

      Someone call Marshall Bravestarr!

    5. CE   11 years ago

      If you like your frozen methane island, you can keep it.

  2. KDN   11 years ago

    Syria's government claims it has surrendered the last of its chemical weapons.

    As if that's stopped us before.

    1. Root Boy   11 years ago

      Where is Obamaphone to tell us how his FP is one shrewd move after another..

    2. R C Dean   11 years ago

      How big an idiot would you have to be to believe Assad when he says this?

      1. Brett L   11 years ago

        How tall is John Kerry?

        1. Francisco d'Anconia   11 years ago

          6' 4"

          But 3 feet of that is his face.

          1. WDATPDIM!?   11 years ago

            OK, that made me laugh.

  3. Brandon   11 years ago

    An island on Titan, a moon of Saturn, mysteriously disappeared over the course of just a few days. Astronomers say they hope J. J. Abrams has nothing to do with the explanation.

    Has anyone asked Malachi Constant?

    1. Scruffy Nerfherder   11 years ago

      Were the island's dimensions 1 x 4 x 9?

      1. Pro Libertate   11 years ago

        That's Europa, silly. Or, if you're a book guy, Iapetus.

        1. db   11 years ago

          Actually it was Io in the films.

          1. Pro Libertate   11 years ago

            Not where all the groovy life-stimulating happened.

            1. db   11 years ago

              MREBS

  4. Injun, as in from India   11 years ago

    The odd fate of former IRS official Lois Lerner's hard drive, which reportedly...

    I'm glad that said Lous Lerner's hard drive, and not hard on.

    1. Andrew S.   11 years ago

      I don't like you very much right now.

  5. waffles   11 years ago

    Hillary Clinton now boasts that she...

    Is an utterly unlikable haqwitch who will be crammed down our throats whether we are ready or not.

    1. Root Boy   11 years ago

      As long as it's not Lois Lerner's hardon shoved down your throat.

      Injun -- get out of my head!

      1. Injun, as in from India   11 years ago

        Sorry, dude. 🙂

        Seriously, someone should make a bumper sticker that says "I'm Ready All Vaselined Up For Hillary.

        1. Root Boy   11 years ago

          You can always buy the Hot for Hillary t-shirt.

          bleech.

  6. Fist of Etiquette   11 years ago

    The odd fate of former IRS official Lois Lerner's hard drive, which reportedly crashed and ate two years worth of email, has taken on a life of its own...

    I'm guessing it got a DoD grade wipe before it went missing.

    1. Greg F   11 years ago

      I'm guessing it got a DoD grade wipe before it went missing.

      I am guessing the wipe is why it crashed.

  7. Fist of Etiquette   11 years ago

    Fresh from claiming she and Bill were "dead broke" when they left the White House, Hillary Clinton now boasts that she pays taxes "unlike a lot of people who are truly well off."

    Then how did she make the cut for Obama's cabinet?

    1. Root Boy   11 years ago

      All you have to do is make sure you've never worked in the private sector or had a real job - Cabinet position shoe-in.

  8. 110 Lean   11 years ago

    Cop admits running teen prostitution ring

    Police officers, being human, make mistakes.
    But at least one police officer in Washington D.C. turned his mistakes into a side business of finding and prostituting teen girls.
    Officer Linwood Barnhill Jr., 48, admitted in federal court that he forced girls to have sex with strangers in his D.C. apartment.
    Barnhill, a 28-year-veteran of the police force, admitted he cruised malls and streets for girls he could pimp for $80. The girls, who were promised Victoria's Secret undergarments, ranged in age from 15 to 17 and paid Barnhill $20 for arranging "dates."
    The police officer would typically approach the girls in his Lincoln Navigator and offer them jobs in the modelling industry. He would then take them back to his apartment and take nude photos of them with a cellphone.
    I'm not saying these girls weren't smart, but I think most people shooting photos for the modelling industry use a camera, not a phone.
    Police searched Barnhill's apartment the day after another D.C. police officer working in the same precinct was arrested for producing child porn.

    1. Tonio   11 years ago

      This is that "new professionalism," right?

      1. JW   11 years ago

        New Pimpinalism.

    2. Fr?ulein Nikki   11 years ago

      They were paid in lame underwear? I guess that makes sense somehow.

    3. Injun, as in from India   11 years ago

      And these are the class of people that you-know-who want to be exclusively armed.

    4. Scruffy Nerfherder   11 years ago

      Prosecutors have asked a federal judge to sentence Barnhill to 8 years, which is lower than federal guidelines of nine to 12 years. He would also have to register as a sex offender and forfeit eight cellphones, a laptop and his Lincoln Navigator. There's no mention of what happens to his police pension.

      1. Tonio   11 years ago

        Nope, no double-standard or special treatment. None at all.

    5. R C Dean   11 years ago

      The punchline is that he wasn't the only cop IN THAT PRECINCT running a child sex business.

      Just a few bad apples, mmmkay?

      1. Brett L   11 years ago

        Every one a hero!

  9. Pro Libertate   11 years ago

    That's no island, that's a space station!

    1. Dweebston   11 years ago

      + 1,000,000 voices

    2. anon   11 years ago

      The Death Star is a whole lot smaller than I thought it would be.

      1. Pro Libertate   11 years ago

        More a Death Islet.

  10. Injun, as in from India   11 years ago

    Fresh from claiming she and Bill were "dead broke" when they left the White House, Hillary Clinton now boasts that she pays taxes "unlike a lot of people who are truly well off." If she likes it so much, she can pay mine, too.

    Translation: Unlike that f&$@^% Mitt Romney, who according to Harry Reid paid no taxes, I pay some taxes. You know, less in percentage terms than Warren Buffet's secretary, but still. At least on the money that is not shielded in estates anyway.

    1. Root Boy   11 years ago

      As we also know she's also setting up property trusts so she won't be paying any inheritance taxes for Chelsea in the future.

      If it's Monday, so prog is being two-faced about money and taxes.

      1. Injun, as in from India   11 years ago

        I saw a news blurb earlier today about Hillary saying that she was not really a part of the 1%, and I got a nice laught out of it. "Please believe me, my fellow Democrat class warriors. I'm not the enemy. Really!"

        1. Root Boy   11 years ago

          Most of the 1% worked for their money. Hillary, not so much.

        2. Root Boy   11 years ago

          Oh, and get aload of this from Chelsea, who doesn't care about money:

          http://hotair.com/archives/201.....just-cant/

          What a fucking idiotic, bubble-living, entitled cunt she is. Apple has fallen next to the tree.

          1. PapayaSF   11 years ago

            If I had a job that paid $26,000 a minute for talking in front of a TV camera, I wouldn't care about money, either.

  11. Jerry on the sea   11 years ago

    Luis Suarez has decided to leave Liverpool for Barcelona according to Spanish media.

    It's the next evolution in the tiki-taka system, just skip passing the ball altogether.

    1. Rhywun   11 years ago

      So that 3-year (or whatever) deal he just signed at Liverpool was a ruse? I am shocked.

      Well, if he does leave, I can finally loathe him the way he so richly deserves.

      1. Mokers   11 years ago

        So talented, but such a knucklehead.

  12. Juice   11 years ago

    In the Titan images you can see that there are some major differences in all the features. It's either just some weird optical effect or the landscape (made of water ice and hydrocarbons) has changed.

    1. Pro Libertate   11 years ago

      It's just the change of seasons, as native life on Titan begins the long trek south.

      1. BigT   11 years ago

        The ice sheets may be melting. Global warming, of course. Probably too many SUV's.

        1. Pro Libertate   11 years ago

          Methane is greenhouse gas.

  13. The DerpRider   11 years ago

    $150 million for a 3 mile train to nowhere.. Oh, Detroit...

    1. Scruffy Nerfherder   11 years ago

      How stimulating

    2. CE   11 years ago

      South Detroit?

  14. rts   11 years ago

    Unhappy hour comes to B.C. pubs that must now raise prices

    As the province announced the introduction of variable drink pricing Friday, it paired the change with new rules on the lowest before-tax prices that can be charged for drinks:

    $2 is the absolute minimum price that can be charged for a drink, and would apply to a single ounce shot of a spirit.
    $3 is the minimum charge for a five-ounce glass of wine, a 12 oz sleeve of beer or cider or a 341 mL bottle or 355 mL can of beer, cider or cooler.
    $5 is the minimum charge for a 20 oz pint of draft beer or cider.

    Those minimum price means some pubs will actually have to boost their prices, and charge more for their least expensive brews.

    Top. Men.

    1. Juice   11 years ago

      $5 is the minimum charge for a 20 oz pint of draft beer or cider.

      Now that's some bullshit. One of the nice perks of visiting small town Oregon was $3 pints of good microbrew and $2 pints at happy hour.

      1. Root Boy   11 years ago

        No worries, it's Canada, couldn't possibly happen here. We know Dems don't believe in Blue Laws anyway.

      2. thom   11 years ago

        My experience in a tavern in rural Wisconsin was that all beers were $1 and everybody tipped the bartender by giving them $1 when they left. $10 for nine beers with tip? Yes please.

    2. The DerpRider   11 years ago

      Honestly. I can walk out of my hotel in Miami to a little pub across the street and get some fantastic micro pints for $4. In Miami. Not bumfuck canada where I'm sure it will be Molson or Labatt swill.

      1. Juice   11 years ago

        micro pints

        ??

        A pint is one size.

        1. The DerpRider   11 years ago

          pints of micro...damn you.

        2. Bobarian   11 years ago

          "A pint is one size."

          And it's not 20 oz. A pint is 16 oz.

          1. robc   11 years ago

            A British Pint is 20 British ounces. Which is like 19.2 US ozs.

      2. Fr?ulein Nikki   11 years ago

        Don't forget Kokanee and Keith's.

    3. Warty   11 years ago

      I once was in Vancouver for a few days. I distinctly remember drinking with some Canadian hipsters who were excited about how cheap the $13 pitchers of PBR were. Canada is a drinker's nightmare.

      1. DEG   11 years ago

        Quebec brewers are world class.

        1. Warty   11 years ago

          Quebec's not Canada. Just ask them.

          1. Fr?ulein Nikki   11 years ago

            On se souvient.

            1. Warty   11 years ago

              Ceci n'est pas une province.

          2. DEG   11 years ago

            Funny, the money there looked like Canuck money.

            1. Brett L   11 years ago

              They take dollar bills in many markets throughout the world, relatively few of them are in America.

              1. DEG   11 years ago

                True

          3. Greg F   11 years ago

            Quebec's not Canada. Just ask them.

            And most of them understand American English ... Canadian English not so much.

      2. CE   11 years ago

        Canada is a drinker's nightmare.

        And yet....

      3. Notorious G.K.C.   11 years ago

        "Canada is a drinker's nightmare."

        So I suppose you won't be drinking Canada Dry?

  15. Paul.   11 years ago

    I'm assuming that at some point, someone has asked whome these Lerner emails were from or to, and we've now gone to their inboxes for the quoted text.

    Because I fucking swear to Pete that if I get one more fucking 'fyi, thoughts?' email with 3 years worth of quoted emails below it that I'm supposed to parse out so I can answer a 'question' which seemed obvious to the person forwarding it to me...

    1. Paul.   11 years ago

      Whom*

    2. Paul.   11 years ago

      Also, has anyone searched her 'sent items'?

    3. Overt   11 years ago

      As noted earlier, 6 other people seemed to have mysterious, catastrophic, convenient crashes in the time frame. I think we all know why.

      Here is the problem- they had roughly 1.5 years of low, low activity to figure out what they were going to do about this. Yes, people been making noise about it, and there was some sort of sham internal review boiling. But the story didn't break until the fake apology in 2013 which, I believe, had been precipitated by the coming review results.

      So during that entire time, the high level people organizing this had the time to review what happened and start excising the evidence from their systems. As I said before, this would have been a small number of confidants (7 maybe?) who could go back and delete information. What they couldn't delete was the mass of email (and memo) evidence that existed in satellite offices. But they could kill off the evidence directly implicating the high level people.

  16. Los Doyers   11 years ago

    So, after about a week and a half here in DC, a few observations from an LA native:
    -the heat and humidity is bad, but it's not debilitating
    -the women here are......not the best looking of the bunch, to put it lightly
    -sharing a capitol elevator with Nancy Pelosi made me feel sorry for her aide. Man, is that hag a piece of prog work.
    -the metro is much faster, cleaner, and more modern than NYC, but its range is meh.
    -WHY CANT I BUY ALCOHOL FROM WHEREVER I WANT? Fuck you liquor stores that close early.

    1. Paul.   11 years ago

      -WHY CANT I BUY ALCOHOL FROM WHEREVER I WANT? Fuck you liquor stores that close early.

      The War on Drugs is why.

    2. Scruffy Nerfherder   11 years ago

      You're going to have to elaborate on Pelosi.

      And you're screwed on booze.

      1. Los Doyers   11 years ago

        I was touring the capitol with a friend of mine, and we were taking the elevator down to floor 1. It stopped at 2 and Pelosi marched in with her aide and security detail. She was rambling on about the war powers act and why progressives supported it at the time. She just seemed like a high maintenance cunt who has to clothespin her sagging face to her skull (think: Men In Black roach alien). She exited on our floor and strutted down to the private House room where only the best top men are allowed.

    3. Juice   11 years ago

      So, after about a week and a half here in DC, a few observations from an LA native:
      -the heat and humidity is bad, but it's not debilitating

      What? The past week or so hasn't been very humid at all and only broke 90 once. The rest of the time it's been really nice.

      -the women here are......not the best looking of the bunch, to put it lightly

      WTF? Ok, maybe I'm not familiar with how hot LA women are, but just walking around the middle of DC you see shitloads of hot women. Maybe you don't like that they're fully dressed?

      -WHY CANT I BUY ALCOHOL FROM WHEREVER I WANT? Fuck you liquor stores that close early.

      That's those "liberals" for you.

      1. Paul.   11 years ago

        WTF? Ok, maybe I'm not familiar with how hot LA women are, but just walking around the middle of DC you see shitloads of hot women. Maybe you don't like that they're fully dressed?

        That undoubtedly has something to do with it.

        However, remember LA is the land of porn and young starlets, so you're going to be heavily weighted on that.

        DC is the land of NGOs and political corruption so I'm not really seeing anything that's going to draw the unusually attractive.

        1. Root Boy   11 years ago

          Porn is all moving to Florida and AZ - too many condom regs and other impediments in CA now.

        2. Juice   11 years ago

          There is lots of money and power in DC and that draws the gold diggers.

          1. Paul.   11 years ago

            DC and that draws the gold diggers.

            Like John Kerry?

      2. Los Doyers   11 years ago

        Please, define me the "'middle of DC" and I'll take you up your offer. As far as I've seen, they've all been below (and older-ish) the women I've seen in LA and NYC. And yes, women in LA are pretty hot. You just have to go down to the South Bay, don't fuck with the transplants that have invaded all land north of the 10 and west of the 110. But the alcohol thing is really pissing me off. I just wanted a bottle of something after the US blew their game yesterday, and I couldn't find shit.

        1. Juice   11 years ago

          By middle of DC, I mean where all the stuff is, the non-poor areas. Maybe you're just hanging around in the political offices judging by your post about Pelosi. I don't know. Maybe the frequency of hot chick spotting is much lower than LA, but I think DC has more hot women than most places.

          1. Los Doyers   11 years ago

            Well my apartment is on embassy row, so I'm usually in the vicinity of Connecticut ave, Adams Morgan, and others. I'll keep searching.

          2. Paul.   11 years ago

            LA, but I think DC has more hot women than most places.

            *narrows eyes in skepticism*

            1. robc   11 years ago

              Clemson, SC may win in hot chicks per capita.

              1. Paul.   11 years ago

                Are they hot in that white-trashy trailer park, roll-in-the-hay kind of way?

              2. Brett L   11 years ago

                I'd bet an SEC or ACC south of the Mason-Dixon line college town.

    4. Max Power   11 years ago

      -WHY CANT I BUY ALCOHOL FROM WHEREVER I WANT? Fuck you liquor stores that close early.

      Don't come to PA, you'll have an aneurysm.

      1. Los Doyers   11 years ago

        As much as I bitch about CA, our cigarettes are still pretty cheap and our availability of booze is among the best. The east coast is just pathetic when it comes to booze. Except maybe NYC.

        1. grrizzly   11 years ago

          Where can you buy decent beer in NYC? Wine stores cannot sell beer. The beer selection in drug stores is awful, almost Canadian.

          1. GILMORE   11 years ago

            Burp Castle

            http://burpcastlenyc.wordpress.com/

            or 'take home'? Shit dude, there's millions of places. Go to the nearest 'organic market' bodega. They have all your run of the mill 'overpriced yuppie brau'.

    5. Tonio   11 years ago

      DC has always had more liberal liquor laws than neighboring Virginia where the state has a monopoly on package sales.

      1. thom   11 years ago

        And Maryland ain't no picnic when it comes to blue laws either. DC always seemed kind of liberal when it came to selling booze compared to what I had to deal with In Baltimore.

        1. Root Boy   11 years ago

          I lived in Mont. County Md and the liquor mob was the County. Only place I've lived where they let the counties control it vs. the state. Still, I think the pricing was pretty good and I had a blast working at the liquor stores during college breaks.

          TX has good deals I think, though you have to go to a liquor store (non-state). Beer was also much cheaper than what I see in Colorado.

        2. Monty Crisco   11 years ago

          Total Wine and More.

          That is all.

    6. CE   11 years ago

      Do you really want Congress spending like a bunch of drunken sailors? Oh, wait...

      1. Injun, as in from India   11 years ago

        LOL.

  17. Max Power   11 years ago

    The Philly PD had their Bearcat and their bomb defusing van out at Manayunk Artsfest this weekend in case the suburban soccermoms started to get out of control.
    I also saw a fat cop sleeping in a golf cart under a tree. My wife was gonna take a picture but I told her not to because there were a lot of other cops standing around. Although, they were eating ice cream so they may not have noticed. I'm sure they were all earning their overtime.

    1. Tonio   11 years ago

      Do the old pretend-to-take-a-selfie trick.

    2. DEG   11 years ago

      My hometown newspaper once ran a story about a cop sleeping on the job, complete with a close up picture of the cop sleeping on the job.

      I think I saved the issue. When I get home I'll see if I still have it.

      1. Max Power   11 years ago

        I really wish we had gotten the pic, because it was pretty funny in a caricature-of-a-fat-lazy-cop kind of way. I'll remember Tonio's trick for next time.

        1. DEG   11 years ago

          I found it. I've given up on Google searches for scans of the front page of the paper, but I found out that the cop caught asleep on the job was as of 2012 still a cop, and still working for the same department. Surprised? I hope not.

          Summary: Business owner sees cop asleep in his cruiser, snaps a picture of him, then wakes him up claiming to just be making sure the cop is OK. Business owner tells the reporter that this is not the first time he has seen cops asleep in their cruisers. The business owner requested anonymity, fearing reprisals.

          A wrinkle: The incident took place at a shopping center. A week before the incident, a teenaged girl was accosted by a man. The article doesn't elaborate on the incident with the girl, but says that a cop (though not the one in question) would have been on a special traffic detail at that shopping center at the time the girl was accosted.

          Source: Pottstown Mercury, March 31st, 1996

  18. Injun, as in from India   11 years ago

    A previously secret Justice Department memo justifying the drone assassination of U.S. citizen Anwar Al-Awlaki was released today by a federal appeals court. The document argues that neither the law nor the Constitution prevented the president from ordering the killing. Its author, David Barron, recently won confirmation as a federal judge. Hmmm...Wonder whether he would have released the memo...

    Two observations:

    1) The parchment barrier is failing miserably and dangerously.
    2) So terribly depressing to see the authority fellating author get appointed to an appeals court. Wonder what "liberals" would say if John Yoo got rewarded similarly during Bush's presidency.

    1. Tonio   11 years ago

      3) We are so screwed.

    2. Pro Libertate   11 years ago

      That's good point. We should reprint the Constitution on sheets of platinum.

      1. Injun, as in from India   11 years ago

        If only the constitution were printed on platinum sheets and discovered by the founders, like the Book of Mormon gold plates discovered by Joseph Smith, would we have a strong religious following to preserve and protect it. But alas.

  19. 110 Lean   11 years ago

    ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS HOPPING 'DEATH TRAIN' TO US, HOPING FOR AMNESTY

    HOUSTON, Texas--Thousands of illegal immigrants are flooding the U.S.-Mexico border, and the problem isn't likely to get better anytime soon. In a mad dash to make it to the U.S., many of the Latino minors are hopping aboard a network of Mexican freight trains called "El Tren de la Muerte," or Death Train. The phenomenon may support claims that the Obama Administration's lax stance on immigration is encouraging thousands of children to put their lives at risk.
    Children who travel via Death Train must jump onto a moving freight car. Minors who cannot successfully pull themselves onto the traveling cars fall onto the tracks--many are left with extreme injuries.
    Erica Dahl-Bredine, an El Salvador representative for Catholic Relief Services, told the Colorado Gazette that those who get injured on the train tracks often return home. She added, "The couplings between the cars are notoriously dangerous. I see children who have lost an arm and a leg or both legs."
    The Obama Administration's actions and rhetoric, which have caused Central Americans to believe they will receive amnesty if they come to the U.S., is likely the driving force behind the surge at the border.

  20. SusanM   11 years ago

    OT: RANDPAC goes SoCon

    http://www.goodasyou.org/good_.....tives.html

    1. Tonio   11 years ago

      Or deliberately poisoning the well.

    2. Root Boy   11 years ago

      I believe Rand is pro-life. Don't think he's anti-same-sex marriage though.

      He is giving Cheney a run for his money on Iraq, which I like.

      Cruz (who is a socon) is also giving shit to that douche Pete King on the same stuff.

      You will never find a perfect candidate.

    3. Mt low rider   11 years ago

      That's one hideous looking bitch, I know..twtanfl.

  21. Warty   11 years ago

    Just in time for Laulupidu, I have learned a word in Estonian. K?kk.

    1. Pro Libertate   11 years ago

      Does that mean "death metal?"

      1. Warty   11 years ago

        I believe all Finno-Urgic words can be roughly translated as "death metal", yes.

        1. Pro Libertate   11 years ago

          It's like snow in Inuit, except it's true, and it's all words.

          1. Slammer   11 years ago

            Finnish Death Metal: Demilich

      2. Paul.   11 years ago

        Does that mean "death metal?"

        It has umlauts, so the chances are high.

    2. Aloysious   11 years ago

      705 x10? I never got close to that on my best day. damn.

  22. Carl ?s his privilege   11 years ago

    Denial of SCOTUSBlog press credentials upheld

    1. Paul.   11 years ago

      This is why we need a journalist shield law.

  23. Carl ?s his privilege   11 years ago

    As linked on MR, a reddit discussion about "the most fucked up thing you've done for money"

    In a turn of events shocking to nobody, a huge chunk of it is gay-for-pay shenanigans.

    1. GILMORE   11 years ago

      "[?]vigilantefranz1 1209 points

      When I was a kid, I sold my neighbor one of Shaq's rap albums for $5.

      OMG

    2. jesse.in.mb   11 years ago

      Ugh, straight people taking jobs from hard-working homo-Americans.

      Some of the stories are pretty funny though.

    3. Raven Nation   11 years ago

      But, umm, I mean. Holy shit, people do weird stuff. And, in most of the cases, it's not actual poor people who have no money but people who need money to do recreational stuff.

      Worst I read:

      stuck my dick in a hill of fire ants for $50. that was the last thing I ever stuck my dick in.

  24. GILMORE   11 years ago

    "Lois Lerner's hard drive, which reportedly crashed"

    Does anyone in actual IT use this term anymore in reference to *hardware*?

    I mean, an OS can 'crash'; buggy software can crash. Its a self-generated implosion that makes it 'non-functional'. but is not analogous to a car-accident where the vehicle is totaled.

    A computer (hardware) doesn't 'crash' if it suddenly becomes non functional; if there are errors, mechanical failures, overheating, whatever - they are specific 'faults' and not generic "Derp CRASH!!?"

    Or will our resident nerds explain this to be the preferred nomenclature?

    1. Carl ?s his privilege   11 years ago

      Referring to hard drives specifically, yes, "crash" is frequently used.

      1. Carl ?s his privilege   11 years ago

        Addendum: it is particularly relevant to hard drives in the case of a head crash

        1. Bam!   11 years ago

          If that's all that had happened, the platters could have been removed and most of the data recovered.

          But the physical drive was then destroyed.

          1. Carl ?s his privilege   11 years ago

            I was merely responding to the question:

            Does anyone in actual IT use this term anymore in reference to *hardware*?

            Not whether the IRS's description of the problem was adequate.

            1. Bam!   11 years ago

              Yes, I know. I wasn't critique your information, merely adding to it.

          2. Pro Libertate   11 years ago

            Launched into the sun?

          3. GILMORE   11 years ago

            yeah, which is more to my point =

            they seem to discuss this in terms as though, "Dude, it crashed, so like, we threw it out"

            in my limited experience, most situations outside of 'de-magging'/crushed by godzilla' mean that data is at least partially recoverable.

            Throwing the thing away during an investigation would be the same as deleting evidence, and should be treated as a crime, i'd think.

            1. Carl ?s his privilege   11 years ago

              That is correct

            2. Coeus   11 years ago

              Right. Just cause the swing arm broke, doesn't mean the data on the platters isn't recoverable. It's just more expensive to do so. They threw it out during an active investigation.

              1. CE   11 years ago

                And then nothing else happened.

                1. GILMORE   11 years ago

                  That they seem to think that the "hard drive no worky no more!" is a plausible excuse for having 'mislaid' the central evidence in a congressional investigation is roughly equivalent to a police detective saying,

                  "We HAD originally recovered the suspect's weapon, but as it was out of bullets at the time, we threw it in the river... as was the fashion of the day, you see..."

                  That anyone thinks this is plausible in 2014 is some seriously ridiculous shit.

    2. Paul.   11 years ago

      Does anyone in actual IT use this term anymore in reference to *hardware*?

      No, hardware fails, software crashes.

      1. Carl ?s his privilege   11 years ago

        I agree and disagree. True, you would never say "the processor crashed", "the RAM crashed", etc.. You would say that they failed.

        But when a hard drive fails, it is often said that it crashed, whether or not it was actually a head crash.

        1. Paul.   11 years ago

          It may be a colloquialism with specific IT departments.

          No one I know or have worked with in years has said "We had to replace her PC because the hard drive crashed"

          If they have, I haven't caught it, and I don't use it myself. Although I have to be honest and say if it came out of someone else's mouth, I may not have noticed. Let's just say I wouldn't reel back at the term.

          "Hard drive failure" is the most common phrase (down my way).

          But I don't begrudge the term. I just don't recall or notice it in common use.

          1. Cyto   11 years ago

            Hard drive crash is definitely the term of art. As described above, this is because the most common mode of failure historically involved an actual crash of the head into the platter. This mode of failure often made recovery more difficult, scratching the coating from the platter and destroying bits of data. Today's drives more commonly fail due to bearings or electronics, meaning the data will be mostly fine (except anything spuriously overwritten by a failing and inaccurate alignment)

            Failure would also work. Died is also common.

    3. Paul.   11 years ago

      To go further, failed hardware often causes software crashes.

      We will sometimes say "The server crashed" but 99.99997% of the time we're really referring to the OS blue-screening or freezing. If after a reboot it continues to not come up and a physical problem with the server is found, we revert to the term 'failure'.

      As Carl notes above, hard drives can suffer 'head crashes', but usually that's a specific term that serves to explain the cause of the 'failiure'.

      "The hard drive failed"

      "why?"

      "head crash"

  25. Bam!   11 years ago

    An island on Titan, a moon of Saturn, mysteriously disappeared over the course of just a few days.

    Titanium mine collapsed, trapping one thousand robot workers. Unless something is done quickly the trapped robots will be dead within 300 years.

    1. Brian D   11 years ago

      "Our plan is, basically, to pave over the entire area and move on with our lives."

    2. Paul.   11 years ago

      Rising Titan sea levels due to man-made global warming.

  26. Carl ?s his privilege   11 years ago

    Memo to Chinese Officials: Stop With the Piggyback Rides Already

    It isn't the easiest time to be a low-level Chinese official. Gone are the days of sweet gifts from ardent well-wishers. Real-estate ambitions have to be curbed. Belts must be tightened.

    Now, it seems, they have to get their feet wet like the rest of us.

    An official in flood-hit Jiangxi province was relieved of his post after a picture showed him accepting a piggyback ride, according to the official Xinhua news agency on Monday. The reason, it seems, was that the official was sporting what looked like a pretty swell pair of leather shoes.

    Images of the official dangling from the neck of another man quickly made their way online, where they drew protests. The photo was apparently taken during a search for children who went missing during the flood, which has stricken part of Jiangxi and Hunan provinces and dumped heavy rain in the surrounding area.

  27. Slammer   11 years ago

    For the metal fans here: King Diamond North America tour.

  28. Carl ?s his privilege   11 years ago

    Go Home, Gaijin

    In a letter to Takeda Pharmaceutical, 110 former executives and individual investors questioned the company's appointment of non-Japanese to several senior positions.

    "The company's globalisation is a wrong globalisation. It should be globalised as a Japanese company. However, from the top to the bottom ,there are hundreds of non-Japanese working in the company in Japan," said Yujiro Hara, a former head of Takeda's real estate subsidiary who represents the group.

    "We say it was acquired by a foreign capital. We cannot accept it," he added. "Three main executive positions, finance, HR and purchase, are taken by foreigners."

    1. Root Boy   11 years ago

      Japan is a feudal, insular culture with a veneer of westernization on top.

      Awesome place to visit, but would not want to work there as anything but an English teacher.

    2. GILMORE   11 years ago

      My dad was in Okinawa for a few years in the corps.

      He still loves telling jokes about how un-apologetically racist the Japanese are, and how they'd never consider any comparisons to "Western" racisms, since obviously those awful things are all between equally-barbaric non-japanese. When the japanese do it, its *completely different*. Because Koreans are fucking dogs!

      I think its cute.

      its what 'MURKIN wants us to all believe in as well. Funny how he never seems to square his own racial inferiority with his worship of Hasidic/Japanese attitudes towards racism.

      1. Pro Libertate   11 years ago

        Don't say that to Chiun.

        1. PD Scott   11 years ago

          That was a fun series to read back in the day.

          Thank God IRL we don't have secret government agencies going around assassinating people.

          1. Pro Libertate   11 years ago

            I'm re-reading a bunch of the books on my Kindle right now. I really enjoy the books, but, yeah, not exactly my libertarian ideal.

        2. GILMORE   11 years ago

          What? Why? Remo Williams is my *homeboy*, and by extension, Chiun

          http://www.internationalhero.co.uk/c/chiun.htm

          1. Pro Libertate   11 years ago

            How is that not an HBO series right now? With, incidentally, no moderation for modern sensibilities. Boy, would that rock some worlds right there.

      2. Root Boy   11 years ago

        Fun fact, the Japanese insult for Koreans is garlic eaters or garlic smelling, though I bet they have worse terms - no bulgogi for them.

        You are correct in other words.

        1. PapayaSF   11 years ago

          Even more fun fact: it was determined some years ago that all Japanese are descended from Koreans, which caused some heartburn among the Japanese-are-superior types.

          1. Paul.   11 years ago

            Really? Link? Not because I think you're wrong, but I'd like to read about that history.

            Scholars are still perplexed as to where the Japanese language came from and how it evolved. It's one the great remaining linguistic mysteries.

            1. GILMORE   11 years ago

              http://www.koreabang.com/2012/.....scent.html

              Comments are priceless.

              All of this is covered in "the journey of Man" documentary i think

              What the people bitching seem to overlook is that they are all basically the same stage of decedent compared to their own shared ancestors, who are central asians who they'd both consider 'monstrous'.

              I think in the documentary, the people who got the MOST pissed off about their genetic heritage were the Australian Aborigines, who pretty much had convinced themselves that they were from Space and everyone else was some kind of worm-creature or something.

              1. Paul.   11 years ago

                Korea Bang? Tell me I'm going to find some seriously hot NSFW pictures there.

              2. Paul.   11 years ago

                I like this comment:

                "Unacceptable. If there is any Korean genes there, they wouldn't be like that "

                1. Carl ?s his privilege   11 years ago

                  Ah?. That's why I seem to feel not so distant to the Japanese women in my computer~ ke ke

                  1. Carl ?s his privilege   11 years ago

                    In the comments on the post... is this sarcastic or insane?

                    Bullshit! China is not anti-Western, they are communists (Western-Zionist ideology) anti-freedom, anti-human. They are puppets of the Hong Kong bankers who are subordinate to London. China was invaded by Westerners and never declared independence. ORDER OF MALTA

              3. jesse.in.mb   11 years ago

                Was Journey of Man the one where the host is talking about the Hopi creation story and uses the term "myth" at which point the Hopi leader taps him on the shoulder and starts grilling him about whether he refers to the Genesis account as a myth? Because I really enjoyed them keeping the bit where he looked really fucking uncomfortable in the final cut.

                1. Paul.   11 years ago

                  Did the guy feel uncomfortable because he was a Christian?

                  Because if someone taps me on the shoulder and harrumphs about the Genesis myth, they'll get no disagreement with me.

                  It's like when the young Islamic kids kept saying, "We're not Christian, we don't turn the other cheeck"

                  Great! Neither do I!

                  1. jesse.in.mb   11 years ago

                    No, I think he was more uncomfortable that they were going after him for cultural insensitivity with the camera rolling. That and the defense: "Well sure I would, Christians and their silly creation stories are cray-cray" probably wouldn't have gone down with a large chunk of the audience who may be only nominally Christian but get really uptight when Christianity is openly mocked.

                    1. Paul.   11 years ago

                      Yep, just caught that segment.

                2. Paul.   11 years ago

                  Was Journey of Man the one where the host is talking about the Hopi creation story and uses the term "myth"

                  BTW: that's the one.

                  1. jesse.in.mb   11 years ago

                    I just watched that bit and he was less phased by it than I remember, but he's definitely working on his best neutral/placating face.

                3. GILMORE   11 years ago


                  jesse.in.mb|6.23.14 @ 7:13PM|#

                  Was Journey of Man the one where the host is talking about the Hopi creation story and uses the term "myth""

                  i dont remember. I don't think so. He seems to spend a lot of time in the whole 'africa-thru-asia' bit (with the most interesting being the strange, 'settlement, genetic mutation, than split' from the central asian plateau.

                  the central asians being the "master-key" genetic group that all asians, europeans, descend from.

                  The 'Murkins are so late to the game (in that first version of the doco at least) i recall he doesn't dwell on them much. In later iterations there may have been whole bits devoted to the curiosities of the North American diaspora.

                  1. jesse.in.mb   11 years ago

                    It's around 1:40. I saw this when it first aired, so my description was a little off, but not too bad for a decade later.

                    1. GILMORE   11 years ago

                      Seeing it now, I do remember exactly this bit. I recall the same reaction, which was, "right on tanto = stick it to the man!"

                      My reference to the Aborigines was the more-memorable one because he was like, "you can keep your story white man! We came from here. so fuck off."

                      You don't find a whole lot of liberals pointing to this stuff and going, "See! everyone is sort of racist!" The guy got more or less a similar reaction to people all over the world, who look at mr blue-eyed-blonde, and go, "You callin me a fucking Eggplant?"

          2. jesse.in.mb   11 years ago

            Japanese-are-superior types.

            So, all the Japanese?

            I was in Tokyo for the Lunar New Year because I had time off. There was a big Japanese cultural festival and civic holiday going on. When we were talking with some Japanese tour guides who were associated with this festival we told them we were off for Lunar New Year. They scoffed and said "Oh the Koreans are so backward they still celebrate that?" as we walked around a festival.

          3. It's a wagon wheel!   11 years ago

            "Even more fun fact: it was determined some years ago that all Japanese are descended from Koreans,"

            Yup even the Ainu.

            Wait what?

            1. PapayaSF   11 years ago

              OK, pedant, except for the Ainu... I think. Not sure where they came from.

      3. Paul.   11 years ago

        "Western" racisms, since obviously those awful things are all between equally-barbaric non-japanese. When the japanese do it, its *completely different*. Because Koreans are fucking dogs!

        That's what I love about Japanese history and culture (of which I'm an armchair history buff).

        When Europeans (Portuguese) first arrived, both parties considered the other Barbarians.

        1. GILMORE   11 years ago

          "Eeew they bathe!?"

          "Eeew! they use forks!?"

          1. Paul.   11 years ago

            "Eeew they bathe!?"

            Every day in that thar Feudal Japan. Totally threw the smelly Europeans for a loop.

            "Every day? Like, every... day?"

            "??!"

            "So... every single day, you have a bath. Not once in the Spring and again in the next Spring... but every day?"

            "??!"

            "That's some crazy shit..."

  29. Coeus   11 years ago

    Well, that's not inflammatory at all.

    Test To See If Your Indignation Matters

    Step #1: Go to the mirror. Are you a middle-aged white man?

    If yes, proceed to step two.
    If no, shut the fuck up. No one cares what you think.
    Step #2: Try to remember who you voted for in the last election. Were they Republican?

    If yes, then congratulations! Everything that makes you indignant, even the mildest seeming irritation or random thing you don't quite understand, is a force of moral certainty. Gripe away, secure in the knowledge that the world needs your priceless indignation.
    If no, STFU. Also, who asked you?

    Classy.

    1. Coeus   11 years ago

      Oh, that's why she's pissed. Will called out her business plan:

      Will: "I think it has something to do with the Internet, a wonderful thing. It has lowered, indeed erased, the barriers to entry into public discourse. That's a good thing. Unfortunately, the downside to this, and there's a downside to everything, is that among the barriers to entry that have been reduced is you don't have to be able to read, write or think. You can just come in and shout and call names and carry on."

      So she responds in a totally reasonable way.

    2. Pro Libertate   11 years ago

      You know what I find interesting about that, tucked away in the middle? The idea that all that matters is who I voted for for president. Not local elections, not state elections, not even Congress.

      1. Root Boy   11 years ago

        Come on Pro, don't you know that all your beliefs, morals, and ethical make up are all wrapped up in who you voted for President. Nothing else.

        1. Pro Libertate   11 years ago

          I guess I could see that if we had a dictatorship. Is that what we have? It certainly sounds like what many progressives want, which still shocks me. I mean, here? Have we learned nothing?

          1. Root Boy   11 years ago

            Don't worry, as soon as Pres. Cruz takes office progs will be back to "dissent is patriotic" and they won't judge you if you voted against him...oh....wait.

            Sorry, got nothing.

    3. PapayaSF   11 years ago

      Progs have now explicitly and proudly established rigid double standards on all political discourse.

    4. Mt low rider   11 years ago

      Dammit, I demand a trigger warning when you link anything Amanda, she might be the derpiest individual who ever lived. We know she's stupid, we don't need more evidence.

  30. Coeus   11 years ago

    You have got to be kidding me.

    A paper published Monday in the leading journal Pediatrics tackles a controversial discovery that can come out of genetic testing: when a child's biological parent turns out to be someone else.

    In the Pediatrics paper, ethicists at the University of Pennsylvania argue in favor of letting the parents of patients know that these facts can generally be found in the course of a test but will not be revealed to them.

    "Because there isn't a national consensus," said co-author Autumn Fiester, director of education in the Department of Medical Ethics and Health Policy at the University of Pennsylvania, "getting a proactive policy that could prevent the harms that are taking place seemed like an imperative to address."

    Without such a policy, Fiester said, after the tests are run, parents might be confronted with being told that there's something they may need to know about their parentage.

    "Dangle something like that in front of any human being, and they're going to be coerced to have that information, even if they will rue the day when they said yes," she said.

    1. PapayaSF   11 years ago

      A few years ago some woman in the UK published a piece arguing against paternity testing, because it infringed on the "freedom" of the mother to name the father she preferred.

      I am not kidding.

      1. Coeus   11 years ago

        It is currently illegal in France without both parents signed consent.

    2. Antilles   11 years ago

      Considering how often women get pregnant from extra-marital affairs (don't recall the percentage, but it's shockingly-high) a paternity test should be mandatory after every birth. If it's determined the husband isn't the real father, he should have the option to walk away without alimony, child support or giving up his property. Let the biological father who nailed someone's wife pay instead.

      1. Coeus   11 years ago

        If he had money, she probably would have told him already.

      2. Paul.   11 years ago

        But the biological father is a penniless loser. If he weren't, she would have married him instead. Clearly you have no idea how this works.

      3. flye   11 years ago

        One of the comics on Last Comic Standing had a bit about single moms trying to convince men to be a dad to their kid: "They say things like, 'All he needs is a father figure.' I'm like, then you better figure out who his father is."

  31. Pro Libertate   11 years ago

    Isn't Stone Vagina a Finnish death metal band?

  32. Pro Libertate   11 years ago

    I like it. Warty?

  33. Paul.   11 years ago

    And it has Umlauts, which is a prerequisite for every death metal band name.

  34. Warty   11 years ago

    Good song title.

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