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California Legislators Want to Tell College Kids When to Have Sex

Lawmakers are eagerly jumping into bed with students, but really killing the mood with some unsexy rules.

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Consent is sexy
Zenon Evans, Reason

The California state legislature is eagerly jumping into bed with college students but really killing the mood with some unsexy rules.

State Sen. Kevin de Leon (D–Los Angeles) has introduced a bill that would require state universities to set strict parameters on what constitutes consensual sex. According to the text of SB 967, the student initiating sexual contact must establish "affirmative consent," defined as:

an affirmative, unambiguous, and conscious decision by each participant to engage in mutually agreed-upon sexual activity. Consent is informed, freely given, and voluntary. It is the responsibility of the person initiating the sexual activity to ensure that he or she has the consent of the other person to engage in the sexual activity. Lack of protest or resistance does not mean consent, nor does silence mean consent.

Consent must be ongoing throughout a sexual encounter and can be revoked at any time. The existence of a dating relationship between the persons involved, or the fact of past sexual relations between them, should never by itself be assumed to be an indicator of consent.

The bill also explicitly lists several circumstances in which the initiator can be convicted of rape even after obtaining consent:

(A) The accused's belief in consent arose from the self-induced intoxication or recklessness of the accused.

(B) The accused did not take reasonable steps, in the circumstances known to the accused at the time, to ascertain that the complainant was consenting.

College administrators must use a "preponderance of the evidence" standard. If they determine that it was 50.0001 percent more likely than not that a sexual encounter violated one of the above conditions, they must find the offender guilty, according to the bill.

The bill also requires that universities provide resources and support to victims of sexual assault. It says nothing, however, about the rights of the accused. Given that many universities already violate due process by depriving accused students of their rights to attorneys, juries of their peers, and opportunities to cross-examine their accusers, it seems unlikely that California universities would interpret this bill as a call to adhere to the requirements of the Fifth and Sixth Amendments.

In a statement to LA Weekly, de Leon made clear that his bill is a response to the federal government's recent investigation into the sexual assault response practices of universities around the country:

The federal government is currently investigating 55 colleges and universities. Obviously, there is a problem. SB 967 will change the equation so the system is not stacked against survivors by establishing an affirmative consent policy to make it clear that only 'yes' means 'yes.'

Indeed, if SB 967 becomes law, the system will certainly not be stacked against the survivors.

As LA Weekly points out, some of the bill's requirements are already in effect under existing law. In California, it is already illegal to have sex with someone who is asleep or incapacitated. If students think they were the victims of assault, they should contact the police, who will investigate the matter under the same rules that apply to everyone: students and non-students alike.

A student indicted for rape by police authorities enjoys constitutional rights, however. A student indicted for rape by a campus judiciary might as well be facing the Spanish Inquisition.

As an example, consider the fate of Occidental College's John Doe, who was accused of rape even though written evidence firmly established that his accuser had consented to sex. The police cleared him, but campus administrators found him guilty anyway. He was expelled.

Colleges have already demonstrated that they are frequently incapable of fairly investigating these cases. Now that the legislature is pressuring them to put out, they are likely to do even worse.

And society moves one step closer to the kind of thing predicted in this famous Dave Chapelle skit.

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    1. Not a man in the sense that you or I would define it. A person with XY chromosomes and a penis of some type, but not an actual man.

      1. and a penis of some type

        Citation required

        1. Detachable perhaps…..just like that dandy song.

      2. Was he wearing pajamas and sipping cocoa?

        1. +1 obamacare hawking faux hipster

    2. It was that or no sex for 6 months from the feminist he married.

    3. Watch your latency, or The Jacket will have a word with you, Fist

    4. Why, these are just common sense regulations, intended to keep our children safe.

  1. The federal government is currently investigating 55 colleges and universities. Obviously, there is a problem.

    An excellent heuristic you’ve got there, mister.

    1. The problem may lie with the feds, but I don’t have enough information.

  2. Off topic:

    Good thing I don’t vote in MD. Exactly none of these candidates agrees with me on more than about 2 issues.

    1. Well most of us who vote face a similar menu of disagreeable choices in most elections. Vote for the person who is likely to do the least damage overall. Vote against the person who has done significant damage, and for the opponent most likely to unseat him.

      1. Or don’t vote.

      2. always tricky in CA.

      3. Cast write-in votes, as I often do.

        1. Norma Talmadge for county supervisor!

    2. Aren’t you in NoVa?

      Btw, we need to catch up maybe this weekend. We’re struck in Sterling until our place is ready on the 20th. Then we’re right at the Huntington station.

      1. OMG sloopy. I’M right at the Huntington Station. Which building/complex?

        1. I just sent it to you.

          1. You didn’t want to post that all over the internet? Weird.

            1. I wouldn’t worry about it. Top Men now know.

              1. Not for 180 days

                BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

      2. I just now realized that “-inca” meant “In California”. All this time I thought you were referring to the pre-columbian tribe in south america for some reason.

        1. I just figured it was a reference to a rabid cocaine habit that fueled him through the workday*

          *playa quota met

        2. Me too which is why I asked if he drank Inca Cola. And probably why I never received a response. That and me being an asshole and all.

          1. Pro tip: The “Sloopy” indicates an affinity for the Ohio State University. Thank me later.

            1. You and V need to look at the calendar for this fall. Buckeyes play in Baltimore and at Maryland.

              The Cal game was a washout for you. Maybe you guys can make it over here and watch one of these with us.

              1. 10/4 at Maryland is intriguing.

            2. You and V need to look at the calendar for this fall. Buckeyes play in Baltimore and at Maryland.

              The Cal game was a washout for you. Maybe you guys can make it over here and watch one of these with us.

            3. Ah…a Suck Eye

          2. Shit, sorry I missed that. Inca Kola is the best. We used to get it at a Mexican grocery for like .89 for a 2L bottle.

            Looked like piss, which was great because it meant nobody would ever try to take it.

    3. Although mathematically, since Brown is 10 yeses, and the Rs mostly 10 nos, doesn’t that mean that at least one of the candidates is guaranteed to have at least 5 places of agreement with you?

      I guess out of the Dem primary that Gansler is better than Brown?

      1. (I was being hyperbolic – it’s pretty much 50/50, which to me is useless. Luckily VA seems to be able to field a decent 3rd-party candidate every once in a while)

        1. Ehrlich was actually a pretty good governor, on the whole. Probably the best that MD could ever get. Even good on clemency issues, which is rare in an R.

    4. In my district I get to vote for a Libertarian in VA’s Congressional district one and will probably vote for Riedel in the primary who seems better than Wittman, so decent choices.

    5. Damn you Kristen!

      1. Actually, this kind of says I align well with David Craig. Too bad he won’t win? Or too bad he would suck anyway if he did?

  3. What about the rape victims that aren’t even college students? They have no college administrators to turn to.

    1. That’s why the government has to subsidize 100% college attendance!
      Think of the children (in all but name apparently)!

      1. Careful. Recognizing paternalistic policies as essentially infantilizing is homophobic, according to Trollny.

    2. Don’t worry, the UC system is well on its way to having one administrator for every 3 people in the country.

    3. It’s privilege all the way down

  4. State Sen. Kevin de Leon (D?Los Angeles) has introduced a bill that would require state universities to set strict parameters on what constitutes consensual sex

    What the fuck is going on? Is there some kind of a rape convention in DC? Is it national rape awareness year? Are we going insane?

    1. Yes.

    2. No, it’s democrats desperately trying to coax republicans into saying stupid things about women or rape (meanwhile they are passing stupid laws wrt to women and rape) in order to get more votes.

    3. Answering your questions in order:

      1. It’s election season.
      2. Yes, but they call them income taxes.
      3. See answer 1.
      4. Going? We’re already across the finish line.

    4. That was my exact reaction. Why suddenly this move to a Salem-witch-trial approach? I have a “follow the money” instinct with this but can’t figure out who benefits.

      1. The unregulated victim industry.

      2. A whole bunch of concern about false negatives, very little concern about false positives.

  5. //however. A student indicted for rape by a campus judiciary might as well be facing the Spanish Inquisition.

    Correction:
    A MALE student indicted for rape by a campus…

    1. At least he won’t be expecting it.

    2. Your correction supposes a female might be indicted for campus rape. Cite?

  6. Rape is bad enough, and the cops can deal with it.

    What’s wrong with good old fashioned rules against students having sex? If that’s too difficult, why not reconsider coeducation and have all-male as well as all-female schools?

    *runs off*

    1. They need to find the delicate balance between nonrapeyness and enough sex to still have customers.

    2. Or teach our daughters* that sometimes you get drunk and make bad choices and just because you wake up next to that bad choice doesn’t mean you should call him a rapist to absolve yourself of your perceived sins.

      *Obviously this is way more about college girls getting raped than it is about college boys. Also, I fully acknowledge that a lot of guys can and do take advantage of drunk girls.

      1. But as an aside so do women.

        1. +1 Previous frisky roommate

      2. Women are more likely to get rape-raped. Men are more likely to fuck a landwhale while drunk.

    3. why not reconsider coeducation and have all-male as well as all-female schools

      I support this policy position. For purity sake, of course.

      1. is this part of the “gay agenda” I keep hearing about?

        1. No!

          Maybe a little.

          Fine, yes.

          How often do EvH and I agree on something? It must be a good thing.

    4. After all, it’s what God wants.

  7. Am I the only one thinking that the only solution to this as a guy is to just, everytime you sleep with a girl on campus, claim she raped you, and then just drop the charges?

    Once you explain it to the chick that it’s just to avoid this kafkaesque bullshit, a few of them might even not get so pissed at you.

    1. Only penises can rape.

      1. Actually, this bill is slightly better than what Duke’s Dean Sue said, since it says: “the person initiating the sexual activity” has the responsibility to seek consent of the other.

        Clearly as the guy you argue that “Hey, she came on to me! I was just sitting here, she whipped my pants off.”

        1. It Thog’s first time. Be gentle!

    2. It probably wouldn’t work out so well and then the guy would be accused of double raping the girl or something.

      1. double secret SUPERRAPE!!!!1!1!

        1. Superrape or superrape superrape?

  8. My husband works at a college and what they don’t tell the students is that the worst sexual offenders on campus are tenured professors and administrators. Who’d’ve thought ?

    1. Why would it be any different than high school?

    2. It’s an experience thing. They’re just more practiced than the students.

  9. And society moves one step closer to the kind of thing predicted in this famous Dave Chapelle skit.

    One step closer? We’re balls-deep in it. And it wasn’t consensual.

  10. I thought the proggies wanted government out of peoples reproductive and sexual activities. I are confused.

    1. So the new rule is this

      Progressives don’t care about what you put into your body, as long as it’s a penis, and it isn’t for money, and it’s not on a college campus.

      1. Penises are for butts only. Penises in vaginas must be pre-approved. Abortion tools in vaginas are encouraged.

    2. Progs want government out of people’s reproductive and sexual activities, except most of the time. They’re like those Republicans who want smaller and less intrusive government, except most of the time. Once you remember that the official language of the political class is Newspeak, it will all make sense.

    3. You are confused.

      Proggie: What I put into MY body, food or sexual, is MY business only. What YOU put into YOUR body is MY business, too.

      I blame progressives, but the truth is 98% of the population has the exact same attitude.

  11. //by each participant to engage in mutually agreed-upon sexual activity. Consent is informed, freely given, and voluntary. It is the responsibility of the person initiating the sexual activity to ensure that he or she has the consent of the other person to engage in the sexual activity. Lack of protest or resistance does not mean consent, nor does silence mean consent.

    So, you have to ask, get a verbal response, and continue doing so throughout the session?
    In other words, it’s illegal to have normal sex. They want to ban sex

    This clearly smacks of the new prudishness of Victorianism. We are again ashamed of sex, and see it as wrong and dirty. By we I mean they of course, the rest of us are sane.

    1. I think, from reading it, that once you get consent you don’t have to keep asking, but that consent can be revoked at any time. The latter seems reasonable; if someone says “Stop,” you stop.

      1. Consent must be ongoing, and silence does not mean consent.

        Which means, just to be safe, I’d recommend acquiring both written and oral consent between each thrust.

        My son will never attend college in California if this is still around in 17 years.

        1. I was wondering why some girls scream “Yes!Yes!Yes!” with each thrust… now i know!

      2. If that was is what you think then just wait until a story breaks through about what started as consensual ended as rape because the girl withdrew consent silently. So for those in this situation, just ask before every thrust.

        Still won’t stop them from withdrawing consent midthrust though.

    2. They want to ban sex.

      No, not at all. What they want is something to hold over your head.

      1. What they want is something to hold over your head.

        This. I blame Ayn Rand for giving them the idea.

      2. I do believe that is the most salient observation to date.

    3. You know who else used random characters to indicate the start of a quote and failed to indicate the closing of a quote, leading to confusion about what was part of and what was not part of said quote?

      1. Rand Paul’s speechwriter?

        1. Was this when he was still on time?

          No, different commenter, also Hitler.

    4. Any iPhone developers working on an app for this?

  12. One more way to pop the higher education bubble I guess.

    1. One more way to pop the higher education bubble cherry I guess

      /Obligatory

  13. “, the student initiating sexual contact”

    And how precisely are they going to determine who initiated it?

    Oh wait, I know, the one with the penis initited it right?

    1. Now you get it!

    2. One guess. I’ll give you a hint: it’s not the one making the allegation.

      RIP due process and presumption of innocence. We hardly knew ye.

  14. So, where’s my hat tip? I posted this link at 7am.

    1. Your consent to a hat tip was submitted on an outdated version of the form.

      1. It’s just forms all the way down…

    2. So you’re saying you want to put just the (hat) tip in (the article)? RAPE CULTURE!!!11

      1. Well, as a member of the priveleged male class, that’s typical, yes?

  15. Remember when the Democrats stood for keeping the government out of your bedroom? Yeah, neither do I.

    1. But, unlike those meddlesome christian tealiban, these guys have your best interest in mind. So it’s ok.

  16. Pet peeve alert:

    Written consent is a subcategory of verbal consent. Verbal is not distinct from written. Verbal is distinct from non-verbal. And yes, I know that you can find definitions that say verbal and oral or synonyms. Those definitions are wrong.

    The word you are looking for is “oral” consent. As in “written or oral” consent. If the girl writes “yes”, you have verbal and written consent. If the girl says, but does not write, “Yes”, you have verbal and oral consent, but not written consent. If the girl puts your penis in her mouth (voluntarily!), you have non-verbal, but not oral consent.

    That is all. Carry on.

    1. I give oral consent for oral.

    2. I’d say a penis in her mouth is the definition of oral consent.

      1. Oh you were never related to the Incas. You were in CA. I get it now.

        1. Took the words right from my brain.

    3. If the girl says, but does not write, “Yes”, you have verbal and oral consent, but not written consent. If the girl puts your penis in her mouth (voluntarily!), you have non-verbal, but not oral consent.

      *furiously taking notes*

    4. But how well does any of this stand up in court? If I borrow my roommate’s car and wreck it, will my claim to having his consent counter his claim to never having given it?

  17. Those children are incapable of consenting to sex.

  18. My body, Dean Wormer’s choice.

  19. Perhaps I’m a member of the Patriarchy, but it irks me when people use the word “survivor” willy-nilly. Use the word when something is actually deadly, like the Bataan Death March or pancreatic cancer. People do not die from regretting drunken sex, so stop calling them “survivors.”

    1. The victim industry is completely unregulated. It’s the wild west!

    2. Every time I hear the word now, I think of this great scene: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=In2XfN3hIi4

  20. Can we please eject those bastards from the union?

  21. One interesting tidbit: “The existence of a dating relationship between the persons involved, or the fact of past sexual relations between them, should never by itself be assumed to be an indicator of consent.”

    Which presumably means that even married students who have to get explicit permission from their spouse before making out. An entire 180 from the old days of the spousal defense for rape.

    1. I was married while in college. I would quickly estimate 450 or more occasions that would not be viewed as consensual under these rules.

    2. And there is no age limit to this. You could be 50 years old and going to college and be subject to this. California is now telling married couples how they must consent to sex in their own bedrooms.

      1. not just consent but “consent”*

        *consent as defined by the California Gender Relations board and as approved by a panel of Gender Studies experts assembled from local Universities.

        1. cunt scent – consent – it’s all quim to me.

  22. The best bet for college boys seems to be to seek out their lays away from the campus and college scene. Easier said than done in certain places, but if you’re in a big city there’s no need to ever fuck one of your fellow students and face the wrath of administrators.

    1. Since the coming of the modern intertoobz, there is no reason to date anyone that you would otherwise come face to face with on a daily basis.

    2. Unfortunately I think that’s a bit easier for women, who can date the local twenty something men quite easily. I’m not sure how many twenty something women want to go back to dating 18 year olds, but it has been a couple decades since college for me

      1. If you bump that up to 30+, I bet you’d find a nice pool of women wanting some younger lovin’. But that would require 18-22 year old men wanting to fuck 30+ year old women. Every guy I’ve known who has had that type of experience raved about it, though.*

        (*Not with me, you preverts.)

        1. But that would require 18-22 year old men wanting to fuck 30+ year old women.

          If they don’t want to, they’re crazy, imho.

        2. As a man in his mid-twenties, I am interested in your views and would like to subscribe to your newsletter.

        3. (*Not with me, you preverts.)

          Uh huh.

        4. “Older” women who like screwing younger guys tend to really enjoy sex and have mastered certain skills. Younger, less experienced guys are less likely to have slept with a woman who knows her way around, so, yeah, they’re going to rave about that experience.

        5. This should be some sort of meme so HS guys dream about going to college and finding some nice thirtysomething babe to rock his world. It would be much better than trolling through the throngs of dead fish to figure that out.

    3. I plan on using this as a means of fucking all the USC girls that are no longer being courted by their male peers.

      1. Make sure to procure a Nixon mask and never EVER give out any personally identifying information. Cover any tattoos, birthmarks, and other unique identifying characteristics, and come up with a good “trolling for girls” name, like Edward Longfellow or Bob Thickjock.

      2. You know their daddies can afford really expensive lawyers right?

  23. So do decisions handed down by the Kampus Kourt have any relevance in the real world (beyond expulsion)?

    1. In a world where you can get fired for donating to the wrong cause 5 years ago, yes.

    2. The fact that you were expelled for rape is going to have relevance IRL.

  24. I have to ask… does this have anything to do with the fact that porn is now being filmed in college dorms… and there’s a whole cadre of women who realized (too late) that stuff that finds its way onto the internet can be seen by other people? So what we’ve got is not so much of a rape crisis, but a crisis of regret?

    1. Yep, its the same conundrum where a girl will let you fuck her brains out all night, but has to cover up in the morning because she doesn’t want you to see her naked. There’s some hint of confused morals and principles in that hollow cavern of mush called her brain, but she can’t quite connect that to actions and consequences.

    2. Actually, the only way to prove consent will be to record the acts and submit the recordings to an escrow account for later review by the rape council.

  25. I thought the era I went to college was the worst, as the girls back then didn’t go the gym or show much skin (remember the long sweatshirt look?) and people were still scared of AIDS.
    So now girls are hot and giving it away, but you have a decent chance of being labeled a racist for taking a girl back to your room from the bar.
    By today’s definitions, I was both a rapist and rape victim back then.

    1. being labeled a racist for taking a girl back to your room from the bar.

      The kids that went to duke got labeled Rapecists!

      1. Ha, my greatest misspell ever.

      2. No, you.Only get labeled a racist if the.girl you have sex with is not white, and you are. Because obviously your desire to sex them.up grows out.of your racist revulsion at their subhuman sexuality.

        1. No, becuase if you are only having sex with the white girls then you are racist for not being willing to date outside your race

  26. The bill also explicitly lists several circumstances in which the initiator can be convicted of rape even after obtaining consent:
    (A) The accused’s belief in consent arose from the self-induced intoxication or recklessness of the accused.

    Emphasis added. *Major* loophole, Kevin!

    1. So, if you’re drunk or reckless, nobody can consent to having sex with you… I didn’t realize that I rape my wife every time I come home from a school function after having a couple too many. Damn patriarchy shielding me from my own rapeyness.

      1. If you go out and have a nice dinner with the wife and drink a cocktail before splitting a bottle wine, then no sex before the next morning.

      2. I know a guy who claims his wife.is so repulsive he can only bring.himself to have sex with here after he.is.intoxicated (I’ve never.met her).

    2. “Dude, I was totally booze-raped by everyone who kept handing me drinks at the.party! She even got me a.beer.once!”

      1. It’s even worse than that… it’s saying that you can be too drunk to receive consent. It’s effectively trying to ban the “we were both drunk” argument, but in practice would end up relegating drunken sex to the same status as drunken driving. We would literally need to breathalyze ourselves before having sex to be sure that we were capable of accepting the consent of our partner.

        1. I typically have no problem with women blowing before sex, but this is taking it too far.

  27. I would love to hear the even rational basis for discriminating against those going to college like this. What is it about attending college that makes it necessary for you to obtain explicit oral consent to sex? If you are not going to college, this law doesn’t apply and you don’t need such, right? So I could at age 60, retire and go back to college and one day now be considered not competent to give anything but explicit oral consent to sex. Yeah, that is rational.

    1. Yeah John, that is a great point I was hoping someone would cover. Seems pretty unconstitionalish to me.

    2. It’s about the college’s rules for having you as a student, and expelling you, and the state guidelines for giving the college money. It has nothing to do with explicit criminal charges, so that’s the basis. They can decide who is a student, and who they expel.

      1. I’m pretty sure Title IX could be used to destroy that argument.

        1. Could be in theory, but Title IX is in fact being used to force colleges to adopt procedures like this.

          1. That’s true, I forgot that all law is in place to protect only the aggrieved classes.

      2. So the price of attending college is going to be giving up my due process rights and my autonomy over my sex life?

        You make a good point John but I don’t think it saves this law.

  28. There is only.one solution to all of this, and it is for.men to deny to women their essence.

    1. You….first…

  29. Fuck it, let’s just bring back trial by ordeal for accused rapistss. If you can walk across these hot coals or endure crushing weight you’re not guilty.

    1. That reminds me of those south asian guys who pull semi trucks with their balls.

  30. Eventually, if she’s not wearing a burka then she’s consenting.

    1. What if it’s a sexy burka?

  31. What next – collge students reduced only to masturbating, and accusing their hand of rape?

    and how do gay marriage and abortion factor in?

    1. Abortion? This is part and parcel of “Women are not responsible for their own sex lives”, which is may be part of the pro-choice credo, if you think that responsibility for getting pregnant is inconsistent with abortion on demand.

      Gay marriage? If its a crime to sex up a woman, men are going to look elsewhere for sexy-time fun.

  32. Thank Christ I don’t have to deal with women. Seriously you guys have no fucking idea how great it is (or maybe you are quite aware of it).

    I mean, rape is bad.

    1. Thank Christ I don’t have to deal with women.

      I’m sure the feeling is mutual.

      1. It is.

      2. No everybody pretty much likes me, and I have no idea why because I’m kind of a dick. I’ve broken my share of female hearts. Only once did I wish I were straight. She was the absolute most beautiful woman I’ve ever seen in my life. I actually regretted telling her so soon after we started dating (though I didn’t realize at the time that’s what we were doing). I like new experiences, and she would definitely be the one to have had that one with.

        1. Please do tell me more about your supermodel girlfriend from Oklahoma.

          1. She was a painter.

            1. Now I know your lying. What kind of supermodel from Oklahoma paints? Now veterinary assistant, I could buy that.

              1. You’re

          2. Wait, I thought every woman in these stories was Canadian.

        2. and I have no idea why because I’m kind of a dick.

          That’s putting it mildly.

    2. It looks like this bill applies to all sorts of relationships. Or are you saying that one man would never accuse another of rape on campus over regretting drunk sex?

      1. I was trying to jump on the misogyny bandwagon. You know how like men are the real victims here for all those false rape accusations that happen all the time.

        I presume the same could happen with gays but if alcohol and sex couldn’t be mixed I may never have had sex in college. I thought sex was one of the main points of drinking in public.

        1. Don’t forget really low lighting in bars.

          1. And bathrooms, and alleys…..

        2. I thought sex was one of the main points of drinking in public.

          Exactly. You go to a bar or a house party to have some drinks and pick someone up. However, if the person you’re trying to pick up is falling down/blackout drunk, it’s wise to pass. But if you are both buzzed or even drunk, what’s the big deal?

          1. Yeah the conundrum is it’s hard to make wise decisions when you’re falling down drunk.

            1. The point of the rule is to make sure they can punish you for being falling down drunk.

        3. Actually they do happen all the time. First there are all of the cases where the woman fully believes she was raped but what happened does not meet the legal definition. She isn’t lying so it doesn’t get calculated in the stats but it is a false allegation none the less.

          Then there are all of the cases where the “victim” doesn’t report it to the police because she knows it is bullshit rather she just tells all their friends that the guy raped her so he gets shunned and turned into a social pariah on campus or at least among their circle of friends. Since it is never reported to the police it never occurs in the stats but with these nice lowered criteria where there is no negative blowback for filing a false report and she can get the guy kicked off campus that just gives one more easy piece of revenge.

  33. I am so happy that I’m married and therefor not having sex.

  34. Living in a student ghetto of a college town, I get a pretty good insight into the mating rituals of college kids. At my local bar, I see alot of 21 year-old-boys and girls getting drunk, and mashing each other. Thing is, it looks like everyone is having a fun time. And every weekend they’re back, and doing it again. I know a few of the kids and they seem like nice, fun-loving people who are enjoying their youth and sexuality.

    So, who are the pooh-butts that get drunk, have sex, and cry “rape”? I’m guessing it is a weird subculture on campus that is attracted to drama, feminism, gender identity, and vengeance. Mind games of a certain group of self-absorbed grievance mongers.

    I mean, are cheerleaders accusing the star quarterback of rape? Or are these gender studies majors accusing puppetry majors of rape? Serious question.

    1. Very good question.

      This wasn’t an issue when I was in school but, then again, no one really had the “victim mentality” back then either. People just assumed THEY were the ones responsible for their actions. How could we have been so naive?

    2. There are all sorts of cases. There are cases of girls who go to a party get, drunk, know that something might happen, and then get assaulted. Campus rape does happen. There are also cases where they give consent, and then change their mind halfway through or later, honestly regretting it. There are more awful cases, like one apparent recent one where a girl had a brief fling with an ex, and then to deny it with her current boyfriend claimed it was sexual assault. (Similar to a case in CA where a high school girl claimed that consensual sex with a football player was rape to deflect her parents’ anger over her having sex at school at all.)

      And people get frustrated because in a he said/she said situation where people are alone together, it’s very difficult to prove rape. But you can’t have a situation where something is perfectly okay and then turns into rape after the fact because someone regrets it.

    3. I live in a college town too. Most hook-ups aren’t random, but are within groups of friends and among people who are familiar with each other. I’m guessing it’s a lot harder to claim rape or assault when you regret hooking up with someone your friends know well. Of course, those are probably the more likely situations of actual rape or assault. The guys who get accused are probably the ones who hook up with strangers. Just a guess.

  35. Back in the 80’s, the house I lived in had a keg party every Wednesday. The simple solution now would be to require consent forms at the door.

    1. Except once they get drunk, that consent becomes invalidated. Otherwise, why not have everyone sign a consent form at the start of the year and give them a membership card?

      1. I like the way you think. How about a sex consent app?

        1. If EULAs are legit….

  36. It is amazing to me that so many people still cling to the notion that sex is something a man does to a woman and merely something women acquiesce to. I saw an interview with some well known porn star – I forget her name and she was, it turns out, an extremely brilliant and insightful woman who, essentially, made this same point – that our archaic notions about sex and the relationships between men and woman are backward and anti-feminist at their core.

    1. Couldn’t agree more.

    2. That’s 3rd wave feminism right there.

  37. When asked to comment on how the administrators would determine if a male student was a rapist in situations where there was an absence of any supporting evidence, the administrator said ” we shall use my largest scales.”

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrzMhU_4m-g

    1. It’s a fair cop.

      1. [Dolly back to reveal horribly unbalanced scales]

  38. I knew a guy who was accused of raping another guy when I was in the army (all around great guy). It was total BS too. I am sorry but you are responsible for all your own dumbfuck choices when you get shitfaced drunk. To include getting your pecker played with by another man.

    If you aren’t adult enough to take responsibility for all your stupid choices when liquored up, then don’t drink. Its that freakin simple.

    Just. Don’t. Drink.

  39. Seems like the answer here if you are a guy is that if you wake up in the morning and realize you had consensual drunk sex with a girl… Go ahead and tell the school that she raped you before she can. Because apparently the accuser automatically wins.

  40. This skit is funny, but that’s what it’s coming to.I may actually do this, that is, if I ever find a woman I actually WANT to have sex with. The current situation has me so turned off of women, the best way to have sex is either by yourself or with a prostitute.

  41. After reading about Sen. de Leon’s new legislation, and then reading the bill, I decided to write a play. “Who Wants Free Love Anyway? A Play in One Act.”

    Julia and Winston are college students at the UC Santa Cruz of the near future. Fearing the consequences of unmonitored sex under the new law, they call the UCSC Sex Dispatcher…

    http://www.wattpad.com/5342570…..in-one-act

  42. This is the same idiot spouting off his ignorance during a conference on gun control:

    “This is a ghost gun. This right here has the ability with a .30-caliber clip to disperse with 30 bullets within half a second. Thirty magazine clip in half a second.”

    Stupidity flows through all of his proposed legislation.

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