Conservative Millennials More Likely to Vote in Midterm Elections Than Young Liberals


Democrat, Republican, or independent, millennials aren't likely to be flocking to the voting booth come November. A new national poll from Harvard's Institute of Politics (IOP) finds less than a quarter of 18- to 29-year-olds say they will be "definitely" be voting this fall. Yet young conservatives are more likely to be among midterm voters than young liberals.
Thirty-two percent of self-identified conservatives said they would definitely vote in the November 2014 elections, compared to only 22 percent of self-identified liberals. Of millennials who voted for Mitt Romney in 2012, 44 percent say they'll vote this fall, compared to 35 percent of those who voted for President Barack Obama in 2012.
This isn't too surprising. In general, midterm elections tend to draw out more base voters for the party not in power, and many millennials full of Hope® in 2008 or 2012 have spent the past several years becoming disillusioned with Democrat power.
In fact, Gen Y trust in politicians and government institutions is at a five-year low, according to the IOP poll. Trust in Obama has dropped to 32 percent, and trust in the Supreme Court is at 36 percent. Trust was highest for the U.S. military, at 47 percent. Additionally, 62 percent of respondents agreed with the statement, "elected officials seem to be motivated by selfish reasons," and nearly a third agreed that "political involvement rarely has any tangible results."
"To inspire the next generation to public service—and to improve our communities—our elected officials need to move past the bitter partisanship and work together to ensure progress and restore trust in government," said IOP Director Trey Grayson.
It's a lovely sentiment, but he might as well have said our elected officials need to start pooping unicorns in top hats. "Moving past bitter partisanship" doesn't seem like something either Republicans or Democrats are terribly interested in. When you're out of touch, out of ideas, and have no consistent political philosophy, bitter partisanship is really your best bet.
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And yet they worry about man made global warming even though there is only a cunt's hair width worth of evidence it is even happening and zero evidence it will ever be catastrophic.
Indoctrination works!
I need to start focusing on work at some point, but I went to see the derp at RS this morning.
Here is Bill Maher on Sterling:
"ESPN seems to have found their Malaysian plane," Maher said, later adding, "If we were really talking about what's important, the headline ? and it would be a banner headline in the newspaper every day and every blog ? that basically says, 'The planet is dying and the icecaps are melting, we must do something very, very soon or we're all going to die.'"
That's funny, he doesn't otherwise act like he's going to die that soon. Has he waterproofed his house?
He must have plans to move to Nebraska or Kansas.
Man. He would hate that. No wonder he is so panicked.
The old Protestant elite were assholes but they at least tried to or pretested to live the the morals they preached. Cotton Mather wasn't out wife swapping in between sermons.
The new Puritan elite don't even pretend to live by the values they preach. I can't think of anything else quite like these people. Lots of people throughout history have been moralistic and turned out to be secret hypocrites. These people are public hypocrites. The openly and proudly do everything they claim is wrong and seem to have no idea why that would be a problem.
Your Puritan obsession is weird, John. You know the Puritans weren't all that puritan, right?
Yes. And I don't have a Puritan obsession. I just used sloppy language. Mather wasn't a "Puritan" in the historical meaning of the word.
My point is that every other species of moralistic public asshole of which I am familiar at least tries to live by the things they preach or keeps their hypocrisy private. Our current moralistic elite proudly does all of the things they claim are wrong. Obama turns the White House AC to 68 because he doesn't like the summers in Washington while telling everyone else to learn to live without AC in the name of saving the earth. It would be one thing if he ran the AC himself and were embarrassed about it if it came to light. That would just make him a garden variety hypocrite. What makes him and the rest of them special is that they are not embarrassed and see nothing wrong with their behavior.
OK, I can agree with that. And these people aren't hypocritical. Because they don't actually believe the shit they're saying. It's a brand, a selling point for the incredible retards who are their audience/fans.
Of course they don't. You see, by themselves they can't make a difference. They can only make a difference by forcing their will onto others. When everyone does the right thing, then they will. But until then it doesn't make a difference if they do or not. But what does make a difference is supporting coercion. That's what makes them wonderful people: their support of coercion. It's not what they do, it's who they support. Principals trump principles.
When everyone does the right thing, then they will.
No they won't. Because some pigs are more equal than others.
Yes, Orwell nailed it.
Bill Maher, have you reduced your air travel to a minimum and started taking the bus? Oh, yeah, that's for the little people.
I think Episiarch has it right. They are not hypocrites they are liars. The other moralistic assholes I speak of believed what they said but were just too weak to live by it. These people don't believe a word of what they say and are just saying it because it gives them power.
Minus use of the word force and this is exactly what leftists have told when I confront them about their hypocrisy.
"I may not act as I preach you must behave, but I support policies that will mean everyone will live better, therefore my hypocrisy is no reflection on the morality of my position."
/prog
Why is Cotton Mather all over the place? Something I read yesterday referenced him too.
Is everyone watching Salem or something?
Cotton Mather came well after the famous witch trials. He was apart of the "Great Awakening" which happened in the 18th Century.
I know who Cotton Mather is, John, but the creators of the show are playing fast and loose with history.
He's being played by the dude who was Lincoln on Fringe.
*I haven't actually watched the show. Some of my coworkers were talking about it, so I read up on it a bit.
Sorry Jessse, I didn't know there was such a show and didn't follow your link.
My mistake. And I am wrong. Mather was around for the trials. He was young but he was out there preaching.
Apparently contemporary critics blamed him for kicking off the witch trials by influencing the Goodwin children's testimony. I thought he'd just fanned the flames later.
I know who Cotton Mather is, John, but the creators of the show are playing fast and loose with history.
He's being played by the dude who was Lincoln on Fringe.
*I haven't actually watched the show. Some of my coworkers were talking about it, so I read up on it a bit.
I believe CM was a cheerleader of the witch trials:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C....._Influence
Heh - I had a high school U.S. history teacher who LOVED the Puritans. We spent weeks and weeks on them. In that class, we never make it to the twentieth century.
He could have taught those historians who find a Puritan strain in US history - that is, literally the descendants of the Puritans in New England and the New-England-settled areas crusading for all sorts of moral reform, annoying the non-Puritans, but often winning victories.
And yet they worry about man made global warming even though there is only a cunt's hair width worth of evidence it is even happening and zero evidence it will ever be catastrophic.
NPR is banging the Ocean Acidification drum this morning.
Are you kidding me? The Ocean Acidification scare makes catastrophic AGW look like solid certain science. They must be desperate.
I think most important is there's no "historic" vote to make this fall and that's hugely what voting is about to the many liberals my age I know. It's not about the result, it's about being able to tell your friends you voted for the first black president.
"See? I'm not racist! I voted for the black guy! Who did you vote for??
The look of confusion on my friend's faces when I said "Gary Johnson" was rather priceless.
I hope you said it the same way Big Boi did.
"Bitch, I voted for Gary Johnson."
To inspire the next generation to public service
Please, please don't.
SO much this.
Actually, if they were inspired to public service it would probably be a very good thing.
Retweeted. I mean, if I tweeted.
Considering that actual election results have little to no effect on the laws and regulations churning out of various legislatures, a poll about whether people intend to vote in a future election seems to be not just non-news, but anti-news.
Don't be so sweeping, Hugh. It's news about how many people are either stupid fucks or think pretending to be a stupid fuck is a good idea.
But the problem is that it creates a Hegelian stupid fuck dialectic that threatens to consume us all.
Polling stupid fucks to gauge just how fucking stupid they are is itself a fucking stupid activity, reporting it as newsworthy just makes the reporter and her employer into stupid fucks, and commenting on how stupid the whole fucking thing is just makes us into stupid fucking accomplices. It's thesis and antithesis off into infinity.
In fact, I get fucking stupider every time I respond to you.
Somebody woke up on the wrong side of the rape futon this morning.
Guessing that face-down is the wrong side?
And next to Joffrey's decomposing corpse.
"wrong side of the rape futon"
Provided a very much needed laugh - thanks for that.
Making people stupider is just one of the better known ways in which nicole is the worst.
Now you're just being silly. We both know you know we've already been consumed by it.
that's a lot of fucks /mr. obvious
Are the young liberals discouraged because they've discovered that their 'magical negro' is actually a run of them mill Chicago machine politician?
I don't think they have the awareness of what a Chicago machine politician is.
They're just lazy. That's why they like the progressives. Cuz Free Shit!
Conservatives more likely to realize that their vote has a higher significance in midterm elections than presidential elections.
Seriously, I've noticed a lot a higher proportion of liberals who think their vote can "make a difference" when electing a president.
Trying to explain the chasm of difference between parts per million and parts per billion, orders of magnitude, etc. is really difficult to people who are firmly fixed on the AGW train.
If this generation keeps voting for the same fuckheads [McInsane, Reid, Boner, Pelousy] how are we better off?
/bitter cynical pessimist
SoConz!!!!!!
I thought the SOCONs were all angry old white guys.
Bo will tell you who the SoCons are, don't worry.
If you don't see SoConz all over this board, chances are you are one.
You could be a SOCON at this very moment, and not even realize it. Anyone could be one. Anyone.
Is it just me or has Bo been off his meds lately?
It is not just you.
Worse. He's been on Mary's meds.
I enjoy the fact that no one talks about Gen X anymore and we like it that way.
My lawn, etc...
Our time has come and gone. Now we're part of the establishment, man!
Now we're part of the establishment, man!
When do I start feeling the benefits?
You haven't received your Privilege Decoder Ring yet?
I'm not on Facebook. Do I have to be on Facebook?
i was at a conference last week. and generations came up in that cliched "how to work with various age groups" BS. the talk went from "greatest, boomers, ..., millennials."
happens all the time. whatever.
ITS LIKE WE DON'T EVEN EXIST MAN.
Whatever. Imma go listen to some some Soundgarden and tie a flannel around my waist while I make a sculpture out of unused AOL sign up disks.
I'm technically a millenial (although the lines are blurred for now, they generally refer to the start as those born in either 1980 or 1982).
But as the runt of the litter, four years younger than my sis, I've got very Gen X sensibilities and was shaped by a lot of Gen X culture. I can't understand my fellow millenials usually.
But as the runt of the litter, four years younger than my sis, I've got very Gen X sensibilities and was shaped by a lot of Gen X culture.
On behalf of Gen X, I apologize.
I enjoy the fact that no one talks about Gen X anymore
err what?
You haven't noticed the 80s hyper-nostalgia booming from Hollywood and pop culture in general?
The 80s are Gen X...or at least our childhood.
I notice some of it, like the Super Bowl ad with Hulkster, Mary Lou Retton, etc. but I wouldn't go so far as to say it's "booming".
Should I feel like a perv for thinking that girl's hot?
No. She looks legal.
I don't know if you're a perv, but you are a sucker of excessive eyeliner.
*for* not of
Could be of too. I've seen stranger fetishes.
*looks around nervously*
No, but you should probably kill yourself for being attracted to a worthless emo twit who thinks wearing a Ramones t-shirt makes her "totally punk rock" and shit.
You read the t-shirt? I just looked at the tits.
Meh, her tits aren't that impressive.
Girl?
Easy... easy...
I could see it as a drunken, one-night stand. But not as a long-term relationship.
Take a better look.
gah! I take it back. Make that a near blackout one-night stand.
Oh come on, she's a cute kid.
I'd fuck her and if she was any fun I'd even call her back.
/thiswhytherearenolibertarianwomen
...while wearing monocles?
No, it's not. Firstly, we don't need to inspire the next generation to 'public service'; we need to get our best and brightest out of those hellholes of public policy's creation and into something productive. This productivity and the jobs and wealth it creates will do far more for society than 'public service' will ever do. Second, 'moving past bitter partisanship' to 'restore trust in government' is to deceive; the problems of government are at worst merely exacerbated by partisanship, not caused by it. Third, even if this awful statement had any merit, it certainly wouldn't have resonance coming as it does from Trey Greyson, one of the biggest POS pols around. This is the guy who ran against Rand Paul in the 2010 primary as a D Brooks-style 'conservative' and who tried to make Aqua Buddha a campaign issue.
So no, Elizabeth, it is not a lovely sentiment; it is yet another 'why can't we all get along' bromide from the D Brooks wing of establishment conservatism.
I am tired of hearing that the problem with politics is that people have strong disagreements and that they don't trust government enough. Sorry assholes, but that will be the case so long as government is in the business of enforcing its will at the point of a gun -- even a libertarian government would not be immune to such a lack of trust. It is not a noble sentiment to suggest otherwise, and in fact such is pretty good evidence that you shouldn't be trusted with power over people.
Feature, not bug.
This is pretty much what I came in here to say, although I was going to call Trey a douchebag rather than POS, but both work. Also, partisanship is the only thing that keeps us from being under full tyranny.
He's a piece of shit douchebag. Which makes him awful as that literally means he's solid waste excrement that somehow fell out of a vagina. He's a biological impossibility, an abnormality, and a freak show.
This is an excellent post.
"our elected officials need to start pooping unicorns in top hats"
That was yesterday = today we need those unicorns *to dance*. My opponent is clearly living in the past! Vote GILMORE!