Google Chief Speaks to Students in Myanmar, Tunisian Preacher Wants Young Woman Stoned for Topless Photo, French Anti-Gay Marriage March Turns Violent: P.M. Links

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• Google Chief Eric Schmidt has urged university students in Myanmar not to let the government control the Internet, saying that "Young people plus technology equals prosperity."

• A Tunisian preacher has called for the stoning of a young woman called Amina. The nineteen-year-old posted a photo on Facebook of herself topless with the phrase "My body belongs to me" scrawled across her chest. 

• An anti-gay marriage march in Paris turned violent, with police using tear gas and batons on demonstrators who were protesting a bill that would legalize gay marriage in France.

• In other news from France, a new report shows that (unsurprisingly) French taxes and regulations have killed one million jobs. 

• Obama wants Congress to finalize proposed immigration legislation so that he can sign it into law ASAP. 

• Ten years after the launch of Operation Iraqi Freedom 52 percent of likely American voters feel that the U.S. should not have been involved in Iraq. Only 31 percent still believe that invading Iraq was a good idea. 

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[Fist of Etiquette]

Obama wants Congress to finalize proposed immigration legislation so that he can sign it into law ASAP.

NO TIME TO READ IT!

[Episiarch]

The faster he wants something passed, the scarier it is. Because there's no way he wants anything good.

[Fist of Etiquette]

I have it on good authority that he's transparent enough to post it for a few days of public review before signing it.

[JW]

He emailed it to me the other day. Didn't you get it?

[Killazontherun]

Even when he is rhetorically to some degree on the right side there will be patronage politics shit squeezed in to make the bill worse than doing nothing at all. Worse yet, it'll screw up any real reform towards open immigration for another fifteen to twenty years by the feel gooders thinking they accomplished something.

[Killazontherun]

Obama is the worst thing to happen to this country since warboners and welfare replaced making money as the nation's number one past time.

Obama, the warboner and welfare powerup.

[generic Brand]

I often say that Obama is the worst thing to happen to this country since at least George W Bush.

[Professional Target]

Which sure confuses them when I say it!

[Fate]

Wonder if the new law will change the process enough that I can get in on anything but an EB5...

[Enough About Palin]

"An anti-gay marriage march in Paris turned violent, with police using tear gas and batons on demonstrators who were protesting a bill that would legalize gay marriage in France."

So sad, City of Lights, so sad.

[Francisco d Anconia]

I thought all French men were gay.

NTTAWWT!

[Anonymous Coward]

Close enough as to make no difference.

[Loki]

"Throw out your hands!!
Stick out your tush!!
Hands on your hips
Give them a push!!
You'll be surprised
You're doing the French Mistake!!
VOILA!!

Come on, try it; move the scene along
Fifty million Frenchmen can't be wrong
Wheeeeeeee!!

Throw out your hands!!
Stick out your tush!!
Hands on your hips
Give them a push!!
You'll be surprised
You're doing the French Mistake!!
..................VOILA!!"

[Jerryskids]

I think you are thinking of British men, from England. French men come from Italy I think. I'll Google it.

[Archduke Pantsfan]

An anti-gay marriage march in Paris turned violent, with police using tear gas and batons on demonstrators who were protesting a bill that would legalize gay marriage in France.

Progress!

[MJGreen]

When will Americans ever move forward and reach the tolerance and cultural superiority of Europe?

[hamilton]

French taxes and regulations have killed one million jobs.

To be fair, they really needed to get those damn French people to leave the country.

[Archduke Pantsfan]

DIE HIPSTERS

[Zeb]

Is that German for "The Hipsters"?

That's hardly anything new. How long have there been stone washed or acid washed jeans?

The funniest ones to me are the t-shirts that come printed to look sort of like they have already been through the wash 100 times. What's even funnier is that you could go to a thrift store and get actually worn shoes and t-shirts for way less money.

[Fist of Etiquette]

No one who speaks German could be an evil man.

[C. Anacreon]

A good argument to parole Sideshow Bob!

[Francisco d Anconia]

DO you think they stink out of the box as well?

[Zeb]

You have to pay extra for that.

[T. Monocle Underbitington]

I believe the term to describe this phenomena is "authenticitude."

[waffles]

If hipsters really care about authenticity then this product wouldn't exist. Perhaps there are non-authentic moneyed people who want to appear authentic? It makes me cringe to think about the person who wants to wear pre-worn chucks. It's not even a good shoe in any condition.

[Ska]

There's a reason they cost $30.

[EDG reppin' LBC]

More like $50 these days.

[EDG reppin' LBC]

DIE KREUZEN

[Archduke Pantsfan]

your name is messed up, dude

[EDG reppin' LBC]

Your name isn't so hot either, dude.

[BakedPenguin]

He's right. I think you might be drunk.

[Professional Target]

DIE HIPSTERS

While I was there I had to click on Porn Stars Without Makeup.
Several of the 15 looked better without the makeup. Then again, several of them looked like Star Trek forehead rejects.

[JJK]

I disagree. Not one of them would pass muster after a night of tequila shots without make up.

[A Serious Man]

Obama wants Congress to finalize proposed immigration legislation so that he can sign it into law ASAP.

After that we'll find out what's in it .

[Archduke Pantsfan]

There's no room for questions in science!

[John]

The Nagel case is pretty embarrassing. As the saying goes, the danger of atheism is not that people will believe in nothing...

People just seem to love to have religious beliefs, even if they refuse to call them religious.

[Zeb]

Just a little semantic nitpick, but I'd say that people love to have beliefs and sometimes hold to them in ways that resemble religion. I don't think that necessarily makes such beliefs religious. Just irrational and overzealous.

[Anonymous Coward]

One of the great myths of history is that the Roman Catholic Church censured Galileo because he questioned the Bible via the theory of heliocentrism. Galileo did not test the validity of the Bible so much as he stood in opposition to the prevailing Aristotelean theories of his time, one of which was geocentrism. It just so happened that the universities of Europe, many of which were created, funded and staffed by the Roman Catholic Church and its priests, who were also devoted Aristoteleans, used the power of Holy Mother Church, and Galileo's own ego, to suppress Galileo.

[Mickey Rat]

There was also the fact that heliocentric theory (pre-Kepler)sucked at predicting celestial motion compared to the Ptolemaic model. What Galileo really showed was that there were things out there (like the Jovian moons)that the scientific consensus model of the time could not explain.

[NeonCat]

For his heresy he should be staked to the ground while different species of Galapagos birds peck him to death.

[Brett L]

So, dude doesn't know science, writes polemic that is scientifically inaccurate and rehashes fights settled 50 or more years ago, and is roundly ridiculed? What's the problem? No matter what your religion or lack thereof, saying that the story all the facts we can gather tells makes you uncomfortable wins you none of my sympathy.

He acknowledges he is a scientific "layman," however well read, but his point is not a scientific one. It is a philosophical one about the limits of a science that subordinates biology to physics. He calls it "reductive materialism" and argues the more we learn about life, the less believable it gets, and the more central mind and consciousness seem to the true picture.

Believing, as Darwinists do, life arose first from accidental chemical reactions in the primordial ooze, and, once established, progressed via the mechanism of natural selection to create all the wonders of human consciousness, "flies in the face of common sense," Prof. Nagel writes.

[Thane of Whiterun]

+1. Thank you.

[John]

Scientists know nothing about philosophy. But that doesn't stop them from claiming knowledge they don't have. That was Nagel's point.

[Brett L]

So all of these ape and monkey studies, all of the dog and pig and cat studies that provide a gradation of reflective action from sophisticated internal models to simple training don't represent a continuum of consciousness? That's bullshit. Its just another person uncomfortable with the fact that a small number of states can achieve incredible complexity (think chess or go, both of which have something like 30 possible states after the first move and billions of total legal states). Again, sorry you don't like the story, but unless we get new and different facts, its pretty much nailed down.

[Thane of Whiterun]

A professor once told my class that Searle's conclusion in the Chinese Room problem was generally accepted by scientists.

I dropped the class about an hour later.

[Brett L]

It looks exactly like consciousness, we can devise no test to differentiate it, but it makes us squeamish so we'll say it isn't consciousness.

[Stormy Dragon]

Of course, once they reject a behaviorlist approach to conscioness, it's remarkably easy to argue them into solopsism, which makes them just as squeamish. That's when it really gets fun watching them struggle.

[DRM]

Yeah. Then they invent bullshit like p-zombies.

[$park?]

Scientists know nothing about philosophy.

A whole bunch of French and German men would like a word with you. Unfortunately they've been dead for more than 100 years.

[Anonymous Coward]

If they've been dead for 100 years, then they have nothing to teach us about anything.

/Ezra Klein

[DRM]

Philosophers know nothing at all. But that doesn't stop them from claiming knowledge.

[MJGreen]

Doesn't surprise me. Everything else I've read from Nagel has been pedestrian or confused. It also doesn't surprise me that several of my progressive acquaintances talk as if he's the greatest living philosopher.

[Trespassers W]

Believing, as Darwinists do, life arose first from accidental chemical reactions in the primordial ooze, and, once established, progressed via the mechanism of natural selection to create all the wonders of human consciousness, "flies in the face of common sense," Prof. Nagel writes.

Speaking of flying in the face of common sense, check out his philosophical writings sometime.

[Thane of Whiterun]

He acknowledges he is a scientific "layman," however well read, but his point is not a scientific one. It is a philosophical one about the limits of a science that subordinates biology to physics.

Cute.

[Bobarian]

To be fair, biology is the kid who picks his boogers and gets paperwads thrown at him in the classroom of all sciences.

[Thane of Whiterun]

Meh. The "real scientists" are just afraid of interacting with living things.

[Bobarian]

Correction: Biology was at the bottom of the pecking order, until 'Climate Sciences' (or whatever they call it).

That kid sticks his boogers in his ears and then eats them later.

[Generic Stranger]

http://xkcd.com/435/

[jesse.in.mb]

http://xkcd.com/520/

xkcd on xkcd violence!

[Corning]

Believing, as Darwinists do, life arose first from accidental chemical reactions in the primordial ooze, and, once established, progressed via the mechanism of natural selection to create all the wonders of human consciousness, "flies in the face of common sense," Prof. Nagel writes.

Hmm...

If it flies in the face of common sense then what is the "face" of common sense telling us?

Perhaps it is the article's fault for not explaining...if not I hardly think Nagel has an argument.

"Common sense" has no alternative theory of where consciousness comes from.

[generic Brand]

I just got into this discussion on Facebook. My issue with the evolutionary theory, specifically hominid evolution, is that it draws the wrong conclusions from the evidence. Too often there is an attempt to claim that a single bone fragment (or set of bones) is a new and separate species in the line of human progression.

They are filling the gaps in the middle with any new discovery that pops up; meanwhile it isn't proven that some of the earlier hominids (Australopithecus afarensis for example) weren't just physically different looking humans. I have long believed that the majority of hominid bone collections are all a subset of Homo sapiens. Same species, just different offshoots, like pygmies, giants, and dwarfs.

[Brett L]

I don't think we have a good mechanism for that. Even with DNA sequencing, unless they have a different number of chromosomes, or substantially different shaped and sized chromosomes, the only true test we have for specieation is whether or not offspring of two individuals of different breeding populations can breed themselves. Unfortunately, with no well defined sub-species of homo sap. we can't talk about past hominids as being species or sub-species with any real knowledge. All we can talk about is their DNA (of which we have little) commonality with our own.

It certainly appears that the Neanderthal and human need to be put in the same species based on DNA evidence.

[Sidd Finch]

the only true test we have for specieation is whether or not offspring of two individuals of different breeding populations can breed themselves.

Some species (e.g. dogs, wolves and coyotes) are interfertile.

[Xenocles]

I believe dogs and wolves are considered to be the same species.

[jesse.in.mb]

Same genus, different species, no?

Canis lupis and canis familiaris?

[Xenocles]

C. lupis familiaris is a subspecies of wolf. Coyotes are a different species in the same genus.

[jesse.in.mb]

Oh, thanks for looking it up Xenocles. I walk away from H&R today better informed than I came.

[Xenocles]

Happens to all of us, no doubt.

In the parent article there's talk of coyote-wolf hybridization, which I think goes to show how inexact of a science taxonomy is.

[Sidd Finch]

Some species (e.g. dogs, wolves and coyotes) are interfertile.

[Trespassers W]

They are filling the gaps in the middle with any new discovery that pops up; meanwhile it isn't proven that some of the earlier hominids (Australopithecus afarensis for example) weren't just physically different looking humans.

Is it a coincidence, then, that the older the bones, the less they look like modern humans? And it's not like some look like modern humans, some look like giants, and some look like dwarves, but rather they all kind of look different in the same way, and more different the older they are.

[Calidissident]

Austrolopithecus afarensis was most definitely not a Homo sapien. It wasn't a dwarf human. It had a human like lower body, which enabled bipedalism, but it's upper body and skull were very ape-like. And there are no examples of a skeleton from that time period that resembles a modern human (dwarf or otherwise).

[DRM]

There's plenty of room for questions in science. There's no room for putting your hands over your ears and saying, "But that violates common sense!"

Only in philosophy is "intuition" considered enough to overcome all evidence of reality.

[John]

An anti-gay marriage march in Paris turned violent, with police using tear gas and batons on demonstrators who were protesting a bill that would legalize gay marriage in France

Must be those evil intolerant French Catholics. right?

[Restoras]

No no, the Cathars must be behind this.

[Zeb]

No, just the evil intolerant French. They refuse to get mad about the stuff that is actually destroying their country, so they need something.

[Heroic Mulatto]

Well, the usual suspects, i.e. "urban youths", wouldn't be protesting by singing La Marseillaise, methinks.

[Fist of Etiquette]

Citroens must be burned.

[Zeb]

Well, that's always true.

[Eduard van Haalen]

According to the article, a small group of "youths" deviated from the approved route, forcing *les flics* [cops] to take out the batons and so forth.

If only this had been an Occupy Wall Street demonstration, Reason might have been more sympathetic, and more inclined to distinguish between the main body of demonstrators and the small number of disruptors.

As for the demonstration as a whole, the article says this:

"Hundreds of thousands of people - conservative activists, schoolchildren with their parents, retirees, priests - converged on the capital on Sunday in a last-ditch bid to stop the bill, with many brought in from the French provinces by bus."

Yeah, all those retirees and priests suddenly decided to riot and attack the cops.

If Reason had been covering the Birmingham demonstrations in 1963, their headline would have been "violence breaks out at demonstration as police are forced to turn hoses on mob."

[Calidissident]

You're comparing an anti-gay marriage protest to Birmingham? Wow.

[Calidissident]

In part yes. I know what you're implying, but if you actually watch video of the rally, it was from just the evil Muslims protesting or clashing with cops.

[Archduke Pantsfan]

Berlusconi, Paris Hilton, Ford, Bondage.
Sugarfree go!

[Almanian!]

This makes me want to buy an F150 RIGHTNOW.

[A Serious Man]

Chief Justice John Roberts' lesbian cousin will attend Prop 8 hearing as his guest.

And in other news, 'John Roberts' Lesbian Cousin' will be the name of my next indie band.

[Enough About Palin]

"Chief Justice John Roberts' lesbian cousin will attend Prop 8 hearing as his guest."

That's a pretty stupid PR move.

[gaijin]

the benefit of lifetime appointments I guess is that you don;t have to care about PR.

[Jerry on the boat]

Roberts: "Just because she likes girls doesn't mean she is a lesbian."

[Marshall Gill]

Hetrosbian? Lestrosexual? Roberts just makes it up as he goes along.

[Almanian!]

Taxsexupenal

[Calidissident]

Well that is true. Some girls who like girls are bi

[Brett L]

I'm not sure outing your family members to the whole world is proper protocol.

[Mechafenris]

I dunno... as a band name, it doesn't have the "zing" say a band like "The Tony Danza Tapdance Extravaganza"

So, My recommendation is to spice it up a bit...

John Roberts' Lesbian Squaredance Theater...

I mean, ever since Dick Delicious and the Tasty Testicles became an actual band... there's not much we can do about innovating...

[Archduke Pantsfan]

Cyprus is the FUTURE

[buybuydandavis]

Cyprus is the past, present, and future.

The government confiscates bank deposits by having the Fed magically print more money.

Don't those primitive Greeks have a Fed to print money? How backward, to have to expropriate in so obvious a fashion as confiscation!

[Brett L]

A good cop story in FL. Or restraint and detention without cause, depending on your view.

Also, it looks like the Tremors monsters are still hunting in Hillsborough. Sink hole my ass.

[Fist of Etiquette]

Ten years after the launch of Operation Iraqi Freedom 52 percent of likely American voters feel that the U.S. should have been involved in Iraq.

52% don't know that we were involved in Iraq? I think something might be missing here.

[Tim]

Let's invade Syria as a sequel.

[Rich]

Yeah! And fight those Ruskies in Cyprus!

[Brett L]

"Nothing happens to my brother as long as my mother is alive."

Hizzoner of Chicago's brother writes tell-all.
"Schoolboys used size and muscle to establish a pecking order, which inevitably put Rahm at a disadvantage," Ezekiel writes, adding later, Rahm "was so tiny in junior high school that he participated in trials for a growth-promoting drug."

[Episiarch]

A power-hungry scumbag who was tiny? What a surprise. Some of the old psychological saws are classics for a reason.

[John]

Napoleon wants his complex back. What a fucked up little bastard Emmanuel is.

[Virginian]

It's more that DC is full of pussies. Didn't he come up to some dude in a locker room and put his finger on the guy's chest? Yeah, in DC that's a tough guy power move. In the real world, it's a quick trip to an ass kicking.

[Anonymous Coward]

If Rahm's penis were of a size to compensate for his small stature, would he be such an insufferable piece of shit?

[Shine on, Nikki Diamond]

Y'all are such size queens. Maybe he's just upset that it was mutilated without his consent.

[Anonymous Coward]

Hey! I don't need to know what sort of initiation rites Barry made Rahm go through to be Chief of Staff. Keep that Beltway insider gossip to yourself.

[Marshall Gill]

Y'all are such size queens

A real woman would appreciate Epi's effort rather than laughing at his minisculity.

[Corning]

Napoleon was about average height for his time.

[A Serious Man]

Bill Gates wants to create next generation of condoms that will be comfortable for men to wear.

[Episiarch]

You can't make a "comfortable" condom, at least not one that feels as good as bareback. That's absurd. The condom is itself the problem.

[Auric Demonocles]

Plus, the act of putting it on is an issue too.

[Mechafenris]

Judging by the effectiveness %age, it might actually be too hard (no pun intended) for some guys to do... particularly when all the blood for one head is in the other....

Some, not all... just sayin'.

[PS]

It's possible with nanotechnology you hidebound fool. Sweet, sweet nanotechnology.

[Rich]

"Windows 69"

[A Serious Man]

They make me microsoft.

[hamilton]

but virus protected.

[Marshall Gill]

We are talking about Microsoft!! You mean virus "protected".

[Marshall Gill]

I don't even want to think about the viruses you would contract!

[Rich]

Everybody crashes occasionally, ASM.

Well, *almost* everybody. 😎

[Rich]

Props to JVV. 8-(

[Jerry on the boat]

The Trojan Horse?

[JW]

"Blue screens happen to everyone occasionally, honey."

[Bobarian]

Would a blow-job be considered

CTRL-ALT-DEL to fix a freeze?

[JW]

You need to upgrade to 3-Way 2.0, which has numerous bug and performance fixes.

[Anonymous Coward]

I don't think Bill Gates has the capacity to support my plug and play interfaces.

[John]

http://moelane.com/2013/03/25/.....-firearms/

Universal background checks would cause universal abuse and a privacy nightmare.

[PapayaSF]

This article seems to make some good points about the supposed "gun show loophole" and the dangers of universal background checks.

[PapayaSF]

So 52% think the US "should have been involved in Iraq," and 31% believe that "invading was a good idea"? That sounds like a consensus!

[gaijin]

52%...a mandate even.

[Matrix]

WV lawmaker wants to ban Google Glass while driving

Why not find out what it is really about first before making a law?

Oh who am I kidding? Lawmakers love making laws regarding things they know nothing about! Ask Dianne Feinstein!

[Rich]

She's put her finger in those imploding Glasses!

[Archduke Pantsfan]

Vettel is an insolent spoiled brat

[John]

Why should Vettel have effectively thrown the race? Isn't passing the other guy the point of racing?

[Archduke Pantsfan]

Not if it's your teammate, who was told to turn down his engine mode and is unable to defend. Team orders are perfectly legal.

[John]

Didn't Ferrari get in trouble a few years ago for telling a guy to throw a race for a teammate?

[Archduke Pantsfan]

Yes, thus causing the rule on team orders to be changed.

[JW]

"Feranando...is faster...than you."

Not really. They got a stern talking to.

[JW]

Why should Vettel have effectively thrown the race? Isn't passing the other guy the point of racing?

The teams are concerned about limited resources: tires, fuel, engines, gearboxes, etc. The Pirellis for this season are complete shit, which may or may not be intentional, and there was a big concern about running the tires out at the end, and blowing a big lead over Mercedes.

Webber had him, but he backed off as ordered.

[Archduke Pantsfan]

The Pirellis for this season are complete shit, which may or may not be intentional

It's most definitely intentional.

[JW]

I don't know. The mediums lasting longer than the hards in the heat of Malaysia? That was weird. I think they have some tweaking to do on the formulas.

[Brett L]

I don't understand... If the other guy has the slower car, why should the faster guy have to run behind him? This makes no sense.

[JW]

Vettel is an insolent spoiled brat

Yep. And Webber is stupid for trusting the shit. I bet that won't happen again.

[Archduke Pantsfan]

Should make for more good fireworks as the season progresses.
As David Coulthard said during the race, your team mate is not your best mate.

[JW]

Especially with those two.

Good on Webber for speaking his mind in the interviews.

[Archduke Pantsfan]

Hamilton looked uncomfortable taking 3rd when he knew Rossberg was faster, but stayed back as well because of team orders. Rossberg's team radio with Ross Brawn was like a student being held back after class.

[JW]

I was gobsmacked when Hamilton admitted that on the podium.

Brawn was correct in that there was no way they could catch Red Bull, and there were fuel issues, so stop pissing about for a point or 2. I like Rosberg and would like to see him win again, and maybe he should have let him pass Hamilton, but then, Brawn suspects that Hamilton has what little chance they have at the championship.

[Archduke Pantsfan]

As long as he stops going to the wrong pit box.

Did Ferrari admit they forced Alonso to go another lap on the broken wing?

[JW]

Heh. That was awesome and it produced this gem.

I haven't heard one way or the other about Alaonso and who fubared that.

[Mickey Rat]

The concept of auto racing as a team sport is a bit baffling.

[John]

http://washington.cbslocal.com.....-time-low/

SCOTUS approval rating at an all time low.

[gaijin]

see, if you can get congress and SCOTUS approval ratings low enough, you can rationalize consolidating power in the executive branch! Those others just don;t reflect the people any more.

[Dr. Frankenstein]

You know who else consolidated power in the executive branch?

[cavalier973]

Jack Stiles?

[Archduke Pantsfan]

In time for passover: Kosher Cigarettes

[Rich]

In the 1990s, some particularly devout officials asked the national water authority to stop pumping water on Passover from the country's sole freshwater lake, the Sea of Galilee. They were concerned that Jews could break Passover rules by drinking tap water possibly "contaminated" by fishermen who may have thrown grain-based fish food into the lake or picnicking Israelis who may have tossed breadcrumbs into it.

Good Lord!

[A Serious Man]

The Patriarchy: Why do women wear thongs under their yoga pants?

What kind of sexualized hell are these poor women living in that they can't even give up porn-compliant underwear in order to keep their bodies lean and toned for future thong-wearing situations? I was under the impression that yoga was supposed to be a healthful activity, and yet here women are, contorting their bodies in a strap of fabric made to respond by straining painfully at your most sensitive bits. Yoga is supposed to be relaxing, and not reminiscent of a visit to the proctologist.

Her advice: don't wear underwear at all while doing yoga.

[John]

Yoga pants are proof God loves us and wants us to be happy.

[JW]

This, this and this.

[Calidissident]

Every day I remind myself how lucky I am to go to a university filled with beautiful women that love to wear yoga pants even when they have absolutely no intention of doing yoga.

[Virginian]

I don't know what's better: the morning when they just throw on yoga pants because they have early class, or the late morning/afternoon when they have some time to actually put an outfit together.

[Calidissident]

Tough question. Either way, I'm happy

[Shine on, Nikki Diamond]

Porn-compliant underwear? I, uh...I think someone should watch some more porn maybe. Also maybe wear a thong for what would obviously be the first time ever.

[Episiarch]

I'd say her advice is sound.

[A Serious Man]

Yeah, can't say I object to a good cameltoe.

[BakedPenguin]

Especially when wearing Lululemon yoga pants.

[BakedPenguin]

...and that was mentioned in the original article. Never mind; I'll start paying attention soon.

[Brett L]

I conditionally approve based on certain admittedly subjective metrics I would like to see applied.

[Dagny T.]

What. That is stupid. If you are already wearing underwear, it is really pretty inefficient to take it off to exercise. And provided your thong actually fits you, it is most likely more comfortable than panties that cover more real estate and are inclined to shift around. Sheesh, these people even overcomplicate and politicize underwear.

[A Serious Man]

Also, how is this not slut-shaming? Yeah, she thinks women are brainwashed sluts, but she's still shaming them for wearing underwear she doesn't approve of.

But to be fair the commentators there are hitting her hard for that.

[John]

Can someone just take one for the team and get Marcotte laid? She is the most sexually frustrated and obsessed writer in media.

[Episiarch]

You volunteering, John?

[John]

If I wasn't married, maybe. But damn that is really doing something for the cause.

[Shine on, Nikki Diamond]

John, you are so good to even offer to take one for the team like that. An asshole like Epi would never do such a selfless, heroic thing. I mean, even talking about it is kind of heroic.

[Episiarch]

So true, nicole. Marcotte isn't even remotely good looking enough for me to entertain the idea of being selfless.

[Heroic Mulatto]

I mean, even talking about it is kind of heroic.

Whelp...if you put it that way. Give me about 5 to 6 hours to drive down to Brooklyn.

[tarran]

I think we should note that it was Episiarch's harsh reaction to Mary Stack's attempts to flirt with him that triggered her obsessive attempt to destroy Hit and Run.

He wouldn't take one for the team even if it was to prevent the world from burning.

[Episiarch]

But I was assured the Pick-Up Artist shtick worked!

[A Serious Man]

He wouldn't take one for the team even if it was to prevent the world from burning.

That's because some men want to watch the world burn.

[Shine on, Nikki Diamond]

He might take one for the team if it was to set the world burning, I guess.

[Gbob]

I have never seen a braver act in all my years.

*wipes away tear*

You, sir, are an inspiration to us all.

[Shine on, Nikki Diamond]

She's not slut-shaming them, she's false-consciousness-shaming them. I do think it's funny that the commenters have so turned against her, but it's because thongs actually are, like, wildly popular among women. And not for any porn-related reasons.

[Shine on, Nikki Diamond]

Yeah. Like I said, if she thinks wearing a thong is anything like visiting a proctologist, either my ideas about proctology are way off or she's never worn a thong. At least not one that fit.

[John]

Just a guess, but she is self conscious about her ass and doesn't like how she looks in a thong. They therefore must be portrayed as evil.

[Dagny T.]

And what do we say in the face of weakness and cellulite: Maybe You Should Squat More, Amanda Marcotte.

People are really piling on in the comments. Do you think she knows she is one of the biggest jokes on the internet?

[Brett L]

If she had enough self-awareness for that thought to dawn on her, she probably wouldn't be one of the biggest jokes on the internet.

[T]

Sheesh, these people even overcomplicate and politicize underwear

The personal is political and there's little more personal than your drawers.

[Zeb]

I am certainly not demanding that any woman wear anything under their yoga pants.

[Mickey Rat]

Er, is that necessarily painful?

[Mickey Rat]

In my gym tonight a female trainer was demonstrating how to do squats in pants whose transparency increased as they stretched. The two high school boys at the station next to me were vocally appreciative.

[John]

http://washingtonexaminer.com/.....le/2525323

Obamacare application registers you to vote. You are kidding me?

[Enough About Palin]

Obama = Caravenly Evil

[Enough About Palin]

Remove the a of your choice

[Rich]

On page 59, after numerous questions about the applicant's identity and qualification for Obamacare, comes the question: "Would you like to register to vote?"

Followed, no doubt, by "Would you like to receive a free 'Obamaphone'?"

[ant1sthenes]

Would you like to know more?

[A Serious Man]

Jim Carrey mocks Charlton Heston in Funny or Die parody of NRA.

[NeonCat]

If there were any justice Heston would punch his way out of the grave and beat the unfunny out of Jim Carrey.

[BakedPenguin]

Which are kids more likely to suffer from: gun violence, or a disease that could be easily preventable by a vaccine? DIAF, Carrey.

[NeonCat]

Does he have a problem with vaccines, or does he have a problem with not getting any from his nutty nitwit lady?

I'm betting the latter.

[BakedPenguin]

He's a multi-millionaire, and he's not old yet. He could find a non-insane girlfriend who looks just as good.

[Brett L]

For Warty: How much ya bench?

On Saturday, Poursoltani, a senior at Pilot Point (Tx.) High, bench-pressed 700 pounds. The weight was a new Texas state record, not to mention a personal record, topping 670 pounds, as he lifted 700 pounds. Yes, 700 pounds. To put that in perspective, the top NFL bench press mark is reportedly 705 pounds, as lifted by former Dallas Cowboys offensive guard Larry Allen.

While even coming near Allen would be a notable accomplishment of its own, doing so at Poursoltani's size is even more remarkable. Allen tips the scales at 325 pounds, while Poursoltani weighs 270 pounds.

[John]

He is not on steroids or anything.

[Brett L]

I could take all the steroids in the world and not be 270 with a 500 lb bench. Genetics is a bitch.

[Heroic Mulatto]

Yep, that kid's body has never produced a molecule of myostatin in his life.

[GILMORE]

Bench pressing is for pussies. I strangle hookers.

[DEG]

Barf

[Episiarch]

"The ticket with 50% wookie"

[PapayaSF]

That is nothing to worry about. They despise one another.

[Auric Demonocles]

I'm about to start a Violent French Alt-text March.

[jesse.in.mb]

It won't matter. Haussmannization totally ruined the ability for Parisians to throw a good riot.

[Brett L]

Tampa Airport apparently contains a trick elevator to kill off the drunk and stupid.

It was determined that the lock on one of the elevator doors was broken. They don't know if the locking mechanism malfunctioned or if Wolfe tampered with it before falling to his death.

[BakedPenguin]

Tampa Airport apparently contains a trick elevator to kill off the drunk and stupid.

This, and the TSA, are why I don't fly anymore.

[Joe M]

The nineteen-year-old posted a photo on Facebook of herself topless with the phrase "My body belongs to me" scrawled across her chest.

I wonder how many people who would reflexively support that would also agree that the fruits of her body's labor belong to her?

[Xenocles]

I wonder how many people who would reflexively support that would also agree that the fruits of her body's labor belong to her?

Sure, if there were such a thing. But someone else made that happen, so it's moot.

[Mickey Rat]

Yes, and that picture now belongs to the world.

[Archduke Pantsfan]

So you think you can play the tambourine?

[PS]

That guy murders vaginas.

[EDG reppin' LBC]

This is the future of entertainment.

[John]

http://www.mediabistro.com/tvn.....ms_b171951

Today show taking the high road.

[Archduke Pantsfan]

Cat shows dog who is boss

[Arun]

Again with this "free speech" nonsense. When you allow people to speak freely without restriction inside of complex systems of oppression, the collective of their speech inevitably will reflect those same systems of oppression. As such, part of breaking down those systems is by creating inclusive speech and participatory dialogue, where marginalize people feel welcome to speak not just their minds, but their experiences. This cannot happen in environments where dominant groups are able to either monopolize the space or say things that prevent marginalize people(s) from speaking.

I really wish people would think critically as opposed to aspiring to un(der)defined, liberal platitudes. Getting a failing or near-failing grade here should be worn as a badge of honour.

[Episiarch]

D- for rehashing an already lame joke.

[Shine on, Nikki Diamond]

F; he's not even rehashing, just straight-up reusing.

[Episiarch]

I reserve Fs for Tulpa, nicole.

[AuH20]

That's why you're the AV Club of commentators, Epi.

You heard me: The AV Club.

[Chuck Dove]

And now they're wearing these as a badge of "honour" nice going you two!

[hamilton]

fast fingers, chuck!

[hamilton]

One "badge of honor" shooting out your way, sparky. And watch the damn furrin u's.

[Cheradenine Zakalwe]

Apparently there's a series of videos noting the uncanny parallels between Archer and Mass Effect. Also a twitter account.

[A Serious Man]

Just the tip.

[MJGreen]

OK, this one's spot-on.

[PS]

Myanmar is no longer Burma
Now it's Myanmar, No-o-ot Burma
Why did Bur-ur-ur-urma get the works?
That's nobody's but the Myanmarnesians

[PS]

Business, business, goddamnit!

[John]

Even old New York was once New Amsterdam.

[Zeb]

It's still Burma to me, damnit.

[Xenocles]

"Myanmar Shave" just didn't have the same marketing punch.

[Archduke Pantsfan]

You're an errand boy, sent by grocery clerks to collect bills

[PS]

The Team Blue bus, is calling us

[A Serious Man]

Hey, man. You don't, uh, you don't talk to the Archduke. Uh, um, well, well, you listen to him. Um, the man's enlarged my mind. Uh, he's a poet warrior in the in the classic sense.

[Virginian]

Ship me somewheres east of Suez, where the best is like the worst,
Where there aren't no Ten Commandments an' a man can raise a thirst;
For the temple-bells are callin', an' it's there that I would be --
By the old Moulmein Pagoda, looking lazy at the sea;
On the road to Mandalay,
Where the old Flotilla lay,
With our sick beneath the awnings when we went to Mandalay!
On the road to Mandalay,
Where the flyin'-fishes play,
An' the dawn comes up like thunder outer China 'crost the Bay!

[Archduke Pantsfan]

Who will be first?

[Enough About Palin]

Hands down, Randy Moss.

[EDG reppin' LBC]

No way. Randy Moss is a redneck. Like a serious hillbilly. He spends his free time fishing and hunting and camping and shit. I guess you could be gay and do all that, but it seems less likely.

I would guess... maybe Terrell Owens? Jeff Garcia is gay, by the way. Maybe Matt Ryan?

[Virginian]

Find someone who consistently takes less money to stay on the 49ers.

[EDG reppin' LBC]

Nnamdi Asomugha.

[jesse.in.mb]

EDG, have you not seen Brokeback Mountain!?

[EDG reppin' LBC]

No, I never saw Brokeback Mountain. But I get it. The guys went on hunting/fishing trips and fell in love? So you're saying that Randy Moss and Jason Williams are gay for each other?

Also, you live in MB. Ever see Jeff Garcia out and about?

[jesse.in.mb]

Brokeback was really fucking slow with an emotional gut punch ending.

Not that I recall.

You can't swing a dead cat in MB without hitting a 10' tall Clipper though. Nothing like being 5'9" and standing in line for an ice cream cone behind 6'10" Blake Griffin. Even funnier watching a bunch of 5'4" girls hitting on him because they know he's famous but don't know who he actually is.

[Virginian]

He is exactly the same age as me, to the day. Except the ref would never give me five steps as I went for the basket.

Also, I can't jump. Or shoot. But other then that, we been switched at birth man I tell you.

[jesse.in.mb]

Happy belated birthday then Virginian.

[Chuck Dove]

An anti-gay marriage march in Paris turned violent, with police using tear gas and batons on demonstrators who were protesting a bill that would legalize gay marriage in France.

We're probably going to have similar violence here if the Supreme Court fights back against the bigots and establishes modern marriage rights.

The Christian bigots should just recognize that their time in the sun is over. Hopefully the Supreme Court crushes the backwater hicks and recognizes the will of the people defending our rights against the uneducated reactionary mob.

[Marshall Gill]

Hopefully the Supreme Court crushes the backwater hicks and recognizes the will of the people defending our rights against the uneducated reactionary mob.

Fucking brilliant!

[Mickey Rat]

Yes, Chuck, now is the time of the secular bigots.

[A Serious Man]

IRS apologizes for spending $60K on Star Trek-themed training video.

Of course the Salon commentators are defending the agency.

[Matrix]

But their wasting spending $60k on that video created a billion dollars in economic activity!!!

/Krugnuts

[lap83]

I think the IRS probably has relatively little waste compared to other agencies. $60,000 is a drop in the bucket. Also, how often do you hear anyone else in government apologizing for anything when the waste is often much larger?

[lap83]

Not that I'm defending them. I just think this was in the media because most people already hate the IRS.

[PS]

Yeah, it's pretty small beer as far as these things go.

[Xenocles]

The Navy just developed a new version of their information assurance training with slick animation, voice acting, and lame achievement prizes. It covers mostly the same information as the old version. But there's no money for maintaining ships anymore. I wonder why?

[wingnutx]

I hate that course.

The last one had a lot of voice acting. The worst thing about it was that you can't just click through it.

[Xenocles]

My agency has its own extra security training that "builds a rocket" as you answer questions and blasts "The Final Countdown" when you finish - but at least you can tell it was dirt cheap to make.

[Brett L]

Vibrators help singers hit the high notes. I'm sure this person "just stumbled upon" the larynx massage by chance.

[Bobarian]

How do you talk with with a vibrator down your throat?

I can hardly even gru..

I mean...

uh... How bout them Mets?

[Brett L]

Using flaming snakes as a way to settle neighborhood disputes.

A Texas woman unfortunately discovered this the hard way, squaring off with a snake near her home while working in her yard. According to a local official, while the woman was doing some cleaning work, she encountered the snake, which she doused in gasoline before lighting it on fire. The flaming snake then slithered into a brush pile by the house, igniting it and the house in a conflagration that quickly spread, eventually damaging a neighboring home.

[Zeb]

Jesus, what happened to snake sticks?

[Enough About Palin]

I like the beer battered snake sticks best.

[A Serious Man]

Brazilian model raises controversy for posting pictures of her breast-feeding a deer.

[Fist of Etiquette]

That's clearly a calf.

[BakedPenguin]

That's what I was thinking. But I'm drunk, so I was waiting for someone else to say it first.

[Fist of Etiquette]

FIRST!

[Auric Demonocles]

I am really curious, but at work.

[Brett L]

Well built but not particularly attractive attention whore gets her picture taken around a calf with her boobs hanging out.

Apparently, this "model's" list includes professional Pamela Anderson impersonator and being part of the Pussycat Dolls, which I understand to only have 5 female singers at once, but something like 20 total alumnae.

[jesse.in.mb]

It's ok, there's no nipple. Seriously though do the people at gawker no know a baby cow when they see one?

[OldMexican]

Brazilian model raises controversy for posting pictures of her breast-feeding a deer.

Deer wet nurse,

Please feed me deer!

[A Serious Man]

Can people just give it a rest already? Today Show airs footage of prison interview with Sandusky by pro-Joe Paterno filmmaker.

[A Serious Man]

Oh yeah, The New York Times: Three Cheers for the Nanny State!

We have a vision of ourselves as free, rational beings who are totally capable of making all the decisions we need to in order to create a good life. Give us complete liberty, and, barring natural disasters, we'll end up where we want to be. It's a nice vision, one that makes us feel proud of ourselves. But it's false.

All your liberties are belong to us.

[Brett L]

If only there were a class of men who could save us because they were different... better... above the little things.

Somehow the tribalistic people who want to go along with the strong men for the sake of order have convinced themselves that they are the ones above emotion.

[Xenocles]

When they say 'we,' of course, they mean 'everyone else.'

[Irish]

The NYT is so fucking fascist it's unbelievable. It's like reading Pravda but with less self-awareness.

At least the people at Pravda know that they're propagandistic hacks and don't try to feed me bullshit about 'journalistic integrity.'

[Mickey Rat]

"We have a vision of ourselves as free, rational beings who are totally capable of making all the decisions we need to in order to create a major newspaper. Give us complete editorial control, and, barring natural disasters, we'll end up where we want to be. It's a nice vision, one that makes us feel proud of ourselves. But it's false."

Obviously, a group of people who believes themselves that incompetent cannot be allowed to control a newspaper.

[Archduke Pantsfan]

Kiwi Styleguides.

[Paul.]

Aww, this reminds me of the good old days of Sage's PI Street fashion!

Hipsters in pork pie hats and deep vees!

[Brett L]

What did I learn? Only Asian girls and old men know how to dress in Enzed.

Nick obviously just woke up from a 25 year coma after overdosing. And there is someone on this earth who thinks the mumu/housedress is still a thing.

[EDG reppin' LBC]

The Goth girl at the end was pretty cute. I would have been so into her circa 1986-1994.

[Paul.]

Google Chief Eric Schmidt has urged university students in Myanmar not to let the government control the Internet, saying that "Young people plus technology equals prosperity."

What about Net Neutrality? The only way we can be free is if we give the government control of our packets.

[GILMORE]

..."An anti-gay marriage march in Paris turned violent, with police using tear gas and batons on demonstrators..."

20years ago one would have expected the violence to be from the *anti-gay* types. Now the state is so gay-happy that they viciously beat anyone who feels less comfy with it. "You! you will respect ze man-love!! You will allow them to wear hotpants in ze office! You are a philistine and a bigot!! You seems like ze americans!!"

I love it when French people snottily remark about how "bigoted and racist" Americans are....while simultaneously remarking about the "Animals" who populate the banlieues, or how "un-French" it is for religious people (well, *non-Christian* religious people) to be allowed to actually, you know, practice their religion.

They totally support ze gay! And will beat you if you feel otherwise!

[New West Republic]

Young people plus technology also equals 4chan. I'm just sayin'

[SumpTump]

Dude sure likes to spew that hot air ddont he?

http://www.MaxAnon.tk

[Joe M]

Powerball Lottery Winner is Bodega Owner from New Jersey Latino Enclave

A bodega owner in Passaic, N.J. who is a father of five and bought daily lottery tickets apparently finally hit the jackpot ? literally ? saying he is the winner of the $338.3 Powerball ticket on Monday.

No, no he didn't.

[Sidd Finch]

Yes, yes he did.

[buybuydandavis]

"A Tunisian preacher has called for the stoning of a young woman called Amina."

An American citizen has called for the imprisonment of a Tunisian preacher for criminal solicitation.

[Warty]

I came late to this PUA shitfest. There are a lot of you who are desperately trying to convince yourselves that you know how to be men.

[jesse.in.mb]

This shit is FASCINATING. Manosphere is a great word; I want to climb in a manyscaphe and go see the wild animals in their natural habitat.

[GILMORE]

Dude, i been there. its a drag. They all talk bullshit about the size of fish they once caught, the wattage of the kicker & amp in their cheap-but-guido'ed-out cars, every one pretends they were once Navy SEALs (but can't talk about it bro - classified), the only sport they follow is MMA and they listen to nothing but Nickelback.

You're better off just going to Jezebel all calling them all 'stupid cunts'. Its far more rewarding and life-affirming.

[jesse.in.mb]

Yeah, I don't know that I REALLY want to go there. I mostly wanted to say Manyscaphe. Also that sounds dead on for a douchebag that we were making fun of at the local bar friday night. He was telling hilariously bad stories about the SEAL training he was going to do before he became a petrochemical mercenary.

[Warty]

These guys are faggier than the faggiest fag you've ever fagged, dude.

[jesse.in.mb]

Why ya gotta put them on my team? Although some of the stuff said today reminds me of an ex of mine.

[Warty]

How do you know they're not on your team? They seem pretty...insecure.

Also, is there a subculture of gay pickup artists that prey on confused, weak young boys like these? Because these chickens seem ripe for the plucking.

[jesse.in.mb]

There are probably people who prey on these people. I've never had to prey on them though. I apparently have a giant fucking sign on my back that says "come to me ye curious, closeted and questioning"

[Irish]

I like that Warty just slides in, appraises the situation, and then sums it up perfectly in 2 sentences.

[Warty]

Maybe they should squat more.

[GILMORE]

Irish|3.25.13 @ 10:26PM|#

I like that Warty just slides in

erm. In my...anecotes I've heard!... he jumps you from behind and then savagely ruts a person bone-dry like a deranged feral gorilla.

maybe you were on a proper 'date'. NTTA.. no, wait...yeah, there's a lot wrong with that.

[iwhitney163]

Be paid weekly and earn like a boss. I just bought a great Chrysler, from earning $9844 this last 4 weeks and $10k last month. Its by far the easiest and without any doubt the most financially rewarding job I've ever had. I actually started ten months ago, and practically, straight away got at least $81p/h! This is what I do http://www.tinyurl.com/b7tfdyr

[omaninom]

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[Episiarch]

Shut the fuck up, moron.

[Virginian]

The actions of this girl are typical of the young generation. It's all about me, my life, me fun time on the carousel, not even an infant's body is more important than me, having fun, and YOU have to pay for it.

_____

Aww angry beta is angry.

[AuH20]

And the award for douchiest debate of the year goes to.. Gillmore and Vir "Gibbs Slap" Ginian! We didn't think we'd get to award it so early in the year, and it breaks a streak by the Youtube comments section, so give these boys a hand!

[Calidissident]

This girl is from Tunisia. While she may well be in favor of legalized abortion, I'm pretty sure that wasn't exactly what she was referring to. See Heroic Mulatto's post

[Shine on, Nikki Diamond]

That is not his version of angry, but you can always keep trying.

[Heroic Mulatto]

Considering the girl is from and currently living in Tunisia, and by "my body belongs to me" she referring to the Islamists in her country would would like nothing more than to force her to stay inside all day unless she is covered in black cloth, head-to-toe, and accompanied by a male relative guardian, you are a moron who should shut the fuck up.

[Shine on, Nikki Diamond]

referring to the Islamists in her country would would like nothing more than to force her to stay inside all day unless she is covered in black cloth, head-to-toe, and accompanied by a male relative guardian

So you're saying she wants some fun time on the carousel, right?

[MJGreen]

But... why do you care about her method? You've been complaining about a position that you convinced yourself she holds.

Seriously, you had said nothing about how a topless photo is inappropriate. Or is merely being topless make one an abortion doctor?

[lap83]

Doesn't that reflect well on black people?

[BakedPenguin]

Yeah, you have to do a Google search and stuff. Fucking worthless scumbag hypocrites.

[Heroic Mulatto]

Only if it's halal fun, nicole.

[Brett L]

Who was hurt by the way she did it? No one. Therefore, who gives a shit if it is the optimal way. It ought to be legal and not expose her to physical harm.

[Shine on, Nikki Diamond]

Well, there are movie reviews on this site, so there's that.

My own personal opinion is that if posting topless photos while explicitly claiming ownership over your body garners death threats where you are from, we should be hoping for more topless photos.

[Zeb]

99% of chicks who do that kind of thins are statists. And that's a conservative estimate.

Well, for one thing, you just made that up. But you are probably right because 99% of everyone is statists. But that still leaves 1%.

Anyway, what the fuck is your point? She should be stoned to death?

[Xenocles]

If you're talking about abortion, abortion is not a settled question within libertarianism.

[GILMORE]

Should we grant anyone the right to create and then murder life?

AFTER I MURDER YOU I WILL HOST A TED DISCUSSION ON THE CONCEPT YOU NAME-STEALING BITCH

[Virginian]

Derp derp derp.

You brought abortion up. This has nothing to do with abortion betaboy. Nothing at all.

[EDG reppin' LBC]

The SPLC has no trouble finding a "hate group" behind every tree.

[Dagny T.]

I HATE SLUTS. WHY WON'T ANY SLUTS LET ME STICK MY DICK IN THEM.

You PUA POS's are like this guy only less funny, not at all self-aware, and much, much more awkward. There are already plenty of places to bicker over the finer points of being a painfully pathetic tool, go do that there.

[Marla Singer]

I spend a lot of time on Heartiste so don't start with me.

That is an xkcd comic waiting to happen. Or maybe it already did happen. You're a poorly drawn stick figure, aren't you?

[Marla Singer]

I spend a lot of time on Heartiste so don't start with me.

That is an xkcd comic waiting to happen. Or maybe it already did happen. You're a poorly drawn stick figure, aren't you?

[Irish]

Did this conversation seriously just happen? Virginian mocks Gillmore and calls him a 'beta' which is just about the lamest insult I've ever heard. Gillmore responds as if this is some sort of bizarre PUA dick measuring contest and says 'Yeah! Well I spend A LOT of time on this totally awesome website! Nothing says hardcore badass heterosexual like talking about poon with random internet strangers!'

Goddammit, guys. Goddammit.

[Irish]

Don't make fun of him, Dagny. He spends a lot of time on a website. He's dangerous.

[Enough About Palin]

But they have such small penises.

[Irish]

In Japan people die from working themselves to death, they have one of the world's highest suicide rates and they've had virtually no economic growth for 20 years.

Truly, it is a paradise.

[GILMORE]

YOU BOW BEFORE EMPEROR, ROUND EYE GAIJIN!!! WE DESCENDENTS OF AMERATSU, SUN-GODDESS!! YOU ARE SHAVED BARBARIAN MONKEY!! NOW PASS ME MY TENTACLE-RAPE MANGA AND I WILL GO MOLEST SCHOOLGIRLS!!

[NeonCat]

Cool story bro.

Oh, wait, I meant lame story.

[MJGreen]

Pure gold.

Were you channeling Thomas Friedman, or was this inspired by today's post on Jeffrey Sachs?

[OldMexican]

Re: King of The Americans,

Workers in Japan are happy and respectful, no rage about the one percent. No free trade [sic] and no abandoned industrial plants. No expectation that everyone is the same and that everyone is just an [sic] intelligent as everyone else.

Check your passport again - I believe you inadvertently traveled to North Korea.

[Sidd Finch]

Recently came back from Japan, I was there on business.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8-rGAM_KeA

[Calidissident]

Two names in one thread? Damn American is putting in work

[Tejicano]

Da fuq?

What color was the sky in the Japan you visited?

The Japan I've been living in since 1993 has abortion on demand (on the third one, as a bonus, they generally tie her tubes without consent).

Drive an hour outside Tokyo (not that far over here) and you find clusters of shuttered factories with empty parking lots.

Incomes the most equitable? You must mean the intake of oxygen - not salaries!

And the police can legally stop and search you and your belongings for any reason what-so-ever.

There is little voiced rage about the one percent because it is still the exact same families ruling the country for hundreds of years. It would be like complaining about the rain.

You sound like the kind of fool who says all Japanese speak perfect English because every Japanese person he spoke to did...

[Irish]

Dammit, American is back. I should have known.

[Dagny T.]

Irish, thank you. Wondering if I was the only one who got serious douche-chills. Said website is another race to the bottom in its own right, if you ever want a reason to be incredibly sad for humanity.

[Virginian]

I gotta troll Irish....I have to....it's my medium, the way other artists would work in oils or clay.

See, there is a certain subculture on the manosphere, which is composed of very butthurt betas who attempt to hijack game in order to pursue a socially conservative agenda. Essentially it's "see? The hamster exists, therefore the Salafis have the right idea!". I wish I was making this up, but I'm not. I've actually seen the medieval patriarchy of the extremist Islam treated as a model to emulate.

That's what we have here. Nothing more, nothing less. Notice that it brought abortion up, despite the fact that abortion has zero to do with topless Tunisian girl. It is terrified, IMO, that the culture it sees as the one sensible one left is now slipping into the horror of actually having sexually available women.

[GILMORE]

Listen, you "two L"-biting-my-style-motherfucker...

There aint enough room in this town for 2 of me.

[Dagny T.]

If you don't think it's embarrassing to admit that the only way to get other humans to tolerate your presence is to memorize some weird psych-out bullshit, you have a much lower shame threshold than I, congrats. No matter how much lingo you throw at it, normal people have sex and relationships without all that nonsense. And the people who need it, and feel the need to broadcast their crushing loneliness and insecurity for all the internet to see, are pretty difficult to watch.

[jesse.in.mb]

Wow, Nicole was right, buncha size queens around here.

I take it the DB Cooper handle got banned KoTA?

[Irish]

I like when American gets banned. It's always funny because the rest of the posts stay and only his disappear.

As a result, it appears to an outside observer that everyone is just talking normally and then we all start screaming about how we shouldn't be racist towards Mexicans with absolutely no provocation.

[Xenocles]

If that is what you desire, I hope you find it.

I get it. PUA is really just an attempt to hack the system. You take you cues from nature and roll the dice. Not a terrible idea on its face. But in my brief time spent looking over a couple of PUA blogs I have noticed that this group who is supposedly so Alpha spends a lot - a lot! - of time agonizing over whether a certain choice is Alpha. You'd think a true Alpha would just, you know, be Alpha.

[jesse.in.mb]

across all cultures in all times

Not a fan of Merlin Stone, eh American?

[Irish]

Yeah, when you start worrying about how confident you look, you are no longer confident. All 'alpha' really means is being confident, but PUA goons take it to a bizarre extreme where you need to be totally dominant at all times and the woman's opinion is irrelevant.

[Dagny T.]

It is alpha-wannabes, Xenocles. People (both men and women, imagine that!) with real value, who are desirable because of who they are, do not need a personality transplant and an internet support group to get what they want. The fact that they are so open about it is what floors me. If I was that bad at life, I wouldn't broadcast it.

Maybe they should squat more.

[PS]

I'm married with children and I read Heartiste. While there is way too much circle-jerking about what is alpha or not, the basic fact of female hypergamy and how it affects society and men is a real issue.

Or one can take the simplistic self-righteous approach like Dagny.

[Virginian]

You're trying to bring in politics to something that wasn't fucking political in the first place. It used to be about how to close the deal, how to get girls head over heels for you. Now it's got a bunch of crypto Nazis and butthurt socons fucking up the fun with their idiotic screeds. Not to mention all the whiny fucking girly boys that read the truth, but don't like it, so they never stop white knighting about how things ought to be, instead of dealing with reality as it is.

[jesse.in.mb]

Women of course wouldn't like me in my natural state because I'm a pedantic nerd who spends his time on Reason.com

I like you much more than I did 5 minutes ago (no homo).

[Dagny T.]

You know, I question my use of "normal" there too. What I meant was "non-pathetic" which I grant you is becoming a minority.

So it is not shameful to want to bang a bunch of chicks, but the chicks being banged should be ashamed? That sounds like a recipe for some really bad sex, so that could be part of your problem.

I get that it is tough to be a suboptimal specimen. But you need to realize that you sound exactly like the Jezebel crowd who whines that no one likes them because they are fat. And then talks about how stupid and horrible men are. Why are you heterosexual, again?

[GILMORE]

Chikcs dig assholes, and in my natural state no, I'm not an asshole.

uhm. TBD

I DONT GIVE A FUCK WHAT YOU ARE JUST CHANGE YOUR GODDAMN HANDLE. SERIOUS.

to be clear: Dude/= me

[Virginian]

Oh, absolutely. Born alphas don't need to learn how to act alpha, just like someone born with perfect pitch doesn't really need singing lessons.

I should squat more though. One of my jobs changed it so we can't use the gym anymore, fuckers. I wonder if I get use of the college gym since I work there now.

[Xenocles]

Maybe they should squat more.

That's your answer to everything. Not a bad one, though. Sadly, my knees are giving me trouble so I'm stuck at a laughable 170.

[Xenocles]

Some people need help displaying their true value just so they can get their foot in the door, and as far as that goes I respect some of what PUA teaches. But when it goes from self-improvement to counting coup it becomes unhealthy and more than a little pathetic.

[PS]

People (both men and women, imagine that!) with real value, who are desirable because of who they are, do not need a personality transplant and an internet support group to get what they want.

People can also become aware of evolutionary biology and the conflicting impulses (and root desires) of egg-bearers vs sperm-bearers.

[Virginian]

I think the man himself is married with a couple of kids of his own. His stuff about game in a LTR or marriage is really good stuff for people who are in that situation.

[Irish]

How is it a real issue? Men have slept around forever. Why should I give a shit if women want to do the same thing? Most women still want what women have wanted forever, which is a relationship and a family.

The lack of responsibility in society, wherein people just don't bother taking responsibility for their own lives, is a legitimate issue. But women sleeping around is a minor part of that, if it's part of it at all.

[Dagny T.]

PS, are you using "hypergamy" to mean the social/mating marketplace? Dating/marrying "up" or "down" is all relative, and we are all with (or not with) exactly and precisely who we deserve. But if you want to start a movement on how my Toyota budget can marry up to a Ferrari using magical trickery, be my guest. Only it sounds like that would only make me hate the Ferrari, which would kind of spoil the fun.

[Irish]

Dagny, if women are not constantly ashamed for doing the same things men do, then we have failed as a society. The only way we can hope to keep women where they belong (namely in the netherworld between kitchen and bedroom) is by browbeating them and shaming them at every opportunity.

Also this quote:

Besides, it takes some time to deprogram feminists propaganda bullshit about how men are supposed to act versus what actually gets women wet.

Fucking seriously? I live in a relatively prog-filled part of the country, and the vast majority of women I meet aren't hardcore, Jezebelian neo-feminists. I've never understood men who are like "FUCKING FEMINISTS MAN! Thanks to them I can't get a date!"

I'm going to go out on a limb and say that a man who thinks its his job to deprogram women isn't having a problem with girls because of the feminists.

[Episiarch]

Dude, you do realize that this entire ridiculous PUA philosophy shit that you're spewing sounds like a cult or Scientology, right? Probably not.

[GILMORE]

Born alphas don't need to learn how to act alpha

My Mom told me my first words as a baby were, "Bitch gimme some of that titty! its dinnertime!"

true story

[Michael S. Langston]

Born alphas don't need to learn how to act alpha, just like someone born with perfect pitch doesn't really need singing lessons.

Actually - neither is really true. The first "alphas" we notice on the playground live and die by might makes right.

& while aggression is a useful tool, it must be controlled. Those "alphas" who lead by might, and succeed at using might to their ends for long enough, will continue this behavior to their detriment (likely jail).

& I think we all know people who are "alphas" in certain circumstances and not so much in others.

Now - people may be born with innate skills, which help them in "alpha" type activities (IMHO I believe some are) - but alpha skills are learned like all skills.

This is also true of perfect pitch with respect to singing - wherein perfect pitch gives you the ability to match tones, but doesn't give you projection, range, lung volume, etc, etc, etc...

[Irish]

You know what strikes me, Dagny? The entire point of libertarianism, at least to me, is two fold.

1. Coercion is bad. This is obvious.

2. Collectivization of groups of people is bad.

The entire point is that we're all individuals who should have the opportunity to make our own choices in the world, without having to worry about being held to account for sins someone of the same race or gender has committed.

It confuses me, therefore, why there seem to be a few libertarians here who are intent on talking about 'female hypergamy' or some such nonsense, as if women are some collective hive mind. That seems totally contrary to the main tenets of libertarianism.

[Episiarch]

Wait a second, "marrying up" is an issue that people worry about? WTF?!?

I'm seeing a hell of a whole lot of projection beaming out of the PUA philosophy.

[PS]

PS, are you using "hypergamy" to mean the social/mating marketplace? Dating/marrying "up" or "down" is all relative, and we are all with (or not with) exactly and precisely who we deserve.

It's all relative!!!

I honestly have no fucking idea what sort of logical point you were trying to make with that Toyota/Ferrari allegory or whatever it was.

[Virginian]

Except, you know, for observed results. I know you got your hate on, and that's fine. Couldn't care less either way.

But cults take money and make you wear robes and sell flowers in airports. This here is getting me laid. Like...a lot.

[Episiarch]

If I had to become an asshole in order to get laid, I'd be seriously rethinking my personality instead of wholeheartedly embracing the assholeness. Seriously, you should think about that.

[Irish]

You don't get it, Epi. The goal of dating isn't to find someone you're attracted to and like to spend time with. No. It's a massive game and status symbol, and if you don't end up with the most sluts in your bed or the hottest trophy wife, then you have failed as a man, you beta son of a bitch.

[Dagny T.]

Irish, time was most everyone on here would have agreed with you. Now I see it devolving into knee-jerk 90's stand-up style gender war bullshit. It is pretty tiresome.

[Episiarch]

You know, Irish, I'm actually going to downgrade myself to gamma male for not understanding that. The only person worse than me is nicole.

[Shine on, Nikki Diamond]

You don't get it, Epi. The goal of dating isn't to find someone you're attracted to and like to spend time with. No. It's a massive game and status symbol

And its being a game is why it's all about treating people like children and figuring out the most advantageous way to react to them childishly.

[PapayaSF]

And their birthrate has dropped so much that their social welfare programs will eventually collapse, and the whole country seems headed for an unrecoverable demographic spiral.

[Xenocles]

The fact that your closet is full of the skins of dead prostitutes suggests omega status to me, Epi.

[Irish]

You're like a zeta male. You're still better than Nicole though, since PUA has taught me that women are valueless granters of status and blow jobs, unworthy even of our hatred. They are as the common worm, writhing in the muck, awaiting a strong alpha to fuck them.

That analogy kind of got away from me.

[Dagny T.]

Isn't the point to trick women who are "out of your league" into sleeping with you anyways? Because theoretically you can already get what you can get, you just don't like the looks of it. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Except the problem seems to be that the magical trickery makes people even more misogynistic than they were already inclined to be, and to be really contemptuous of the individuals it "worked" on.

[GILMORE]

AND PART OF THE COUNTRY SO RADIOACTIVE KIDS BEING BORN WITH 2 DICKS AND 3 TITS

WHICH WE JAPANESE LOVE

[Shine on, Nikki Diamond]

women are valueless granters of status and blow jobs, unworthy even of our hatred

Precisely so, Irish; you're very perceptive. You see, that's why Virginian disagrees with Gillmore. Gillmore morally judged women for acting like sluts, whereas Virginian knows it's simply our nature, and as amoral but quasi-rational pets, that makes it A-OK. Which is not to say respectable, of course. That would just be silly.

[Xenocles]

They are as the common worm, writhing in the muck, awaiting a strong alpha to fuck them.

Remind me to never go fishing with you.

[jesse.in.mb]

They are as the common worm, writhing in the muck, awaiting a strong alpha to fuck them.

Have you been reading SF's fiction all day?

[jesse.in.mb]

Warty must be a rock star in Japan there.

[Shine on, Nikki Diamond]

makes people even more misogynistic than they were already inclined to be

Nah, see, that's where the confusion arises. They don't hate women; they think women are adorable. Adorable nonpersons.

[PS]

Isn't the point to trick women who are "out of your league" into sleeping with you anyways? Because theoretically you can already get what you can get, you just don't like the looks of it. Correct me if I'm wrong.

For me the point is simply to acknowledge that there are hard-wired differences between egg-bearers and sperm-bearers. It's not all relative.

[PS]

"makes people even more misogynistic than they were already inclined to be"

It's a misogynsticapolypse!

[Virginian]

Huh, funny, I don't remember typing the word sluts. Actually, I'm positive I didn't. Burn that strawman. Burn it right to the ground.

[GILMORE]

WHO FUCKING CARES JUST CHANGE YOUR NAME

[jesse.in.mb]

Because there are BIOLOGICAL DIFFERENCES BETWEEN THE GENDERS

Not to harsh your buzz dude, but while there have generally been differences in accepted gender behavior they are at least partially socially constructed, and have shifted constantly over time. I'm not saying that there is no biological source for certain behavior patterns, but BIOLOGY IS DESTINY doesn't really work to shut down arguments about gender.

[Episiarch]

Oh Slappy, you are a collectivist, you racist misogynistic moronic piece of shit. And I'm doubtful about the human being part.

[Xenocles]

They invented a word for it, for crying out loud. That's saying something for a language full of loan words.

[GILMORE]

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Gillmore|3.25.13 @ 7:33PM|#

"In Japan people die from working themselves to death"

[Citation needed]

[CHANGE YOUR FUCKING NAME NEEDED]

[AuH20]

Virginian, I hope you realize that this shit you are getting is for your own good.

You yourself admitted falling to the dark side, man. YOU WERE THE CHOSEN ONE A TOLERABLE CONTRIBUTOR!

[Calidissident]

Well that's it I'm convinced. Ignore the fact that you are a new poster that makes all the same arguments that a troll known for regularly coming back here with new user names makes. Complete coincidence I guess.

[AuH20]

Awww... is wittle mr. pick up artist not so alpha that he can't handle getting a little shit on the internet? Does Mr. Pick Up Artist need to be an internet tuff gai because he's such a raging douche no one likes him?

Dude, it's not your fault that you were born with a small cock, but when you grow up, drop the juvenile macho alpha bullshit, and your balls actually drop into your sack, I'm sure you'll find a nice gal (or fella- I don't judge) and that small dick will mean it is way easier to talk your partner into anal than someone with a larger member.

So count your blessings, champ, and until you are ready for a real woman, I would suggest prostitutes, but I'm worried that you'd murder them, so stick to Playboy.

[Calidissident]

Well not him personally, but a guy he knows

[AuH20]

Proterter would be a shitty name for a band.

Shitty like everything about you, Gil.

[Calidissident]

In Japan's case, the leeches are mostly going to be retired old people that can't be supported by the small working population

[AuH20]

Complaining about sex and women? What could be more pathetic?

Well, Gill, the answer to your question is apparently nothing, as you so ably demonstrate.

[JW]

Hey, alphas, can I see your new fucking haircut?

Jebus fucking wept; just be a man. Be a stand up guy and everything else will work itself out.

If you're getting shit on by women for being a "nice guy" then you have shitty taste in women and poor decision making skills.

[Xenocles]

You know who else wanted to be a macho man?

[AuH20]

He doesn't need to be macho, he just needs to read girls his wonderful poetry or something.

Yeah, essentially. You want a woman to be into you? Write her poetry. I mean, obviously the situation matters (you should be, y'know, dating, and not stalking the girls at your high school), but if you want into a girl's pants, hell yeah poetry works.

It sounds really phony. But it works because at some level it is legitimate- sure its a dumb and silly and grand and transparent gesture, but that's also why it works. See, the key is, you have to actually like the people that you date as people.

Y'know, Gill, I actually feel bad for you. Your 16, your hormones are raging, and you can't get laid to save your life, and as a nerdy girl all the popular "hot" girls seem like stuck up bitches who don't have the time of day for you. Not quite my experience, but I've seen a John Hughes movie. The thing, Gill, is that you have internet porn. So much internet porn.

Unless your folks have put a porn filter on. In which case, send me your address and I'll get you set up with some Playboys. Gill, what I'm saying here is: Help me to help you not ritualistically kill and dump the bodies of 30 women into the body of water nearest to you.

[AuH20]

God, anime is such a derivative genre...

[Heroic Mulatto]

These guys.

[Irish]

The symbol of status for me is the creation of my woman suit. I find fatties and lure them into the back of my van, after which I drop them down a hole and spray them with a hose, while forcing them to rub themselves with lotion.

If it doesn't put the lotion on its skin, I force it to get the hose again. It almost rhymes when you say it with a lisp, as is my wont.

[Irish]

I still like Virginian. He's a pretty good guy, and he's a solid contributor on most issues.

I just vehemently disagree with him on the value of PUA.

[Xenocles]

HM got it right. (Also acceptable would have been "Hitler!")

[Irish]

@ Gillmore: No, I don't plan on getting married and having children. It would interfere with knitting my woman suit, which we've already established is my primary reason for living.

[AuH20]

Yes, Gill, one day I do plan on marrying and having children, and if my daughter or son ever somehow loses their senses and brings home a guy like you, I will murder that man with my bare hands and dispose of his body where no one will ever find it.

[GILMORE]

Gillmore|3.25.13 @ 7:21PM|#

...I think the genders are biologically different. You think they are the same?...

NAME-BITING GENIUS JUST LOOKED AT PICTURES IN BIOLOGY CLASS

[Calidissident]

Well first off you use the term "cosmotarian" a lot. American is far from the only person on here to use it, but it was definitely a signature characteristic of his posting. And he was fond of saying "Most people disagree with (insert "comsotarian" position here)." American made the exact same arguments about women, race, sexuality, etc. that you do. I do agree that men and women are biologically different. That's not what makes it easy to identify you as American. The arguments you make about that belief make it obvious.

[Calidissident]

Japan isn't poverty-free (as long as we're using a first world definition of poverty) and in any case, I fail to see why the US's financial outlook is relevant to Japan's (beyond economic interdependence)

[AuH20]

Gill, this has been fun and all, but your clearly just a giant asshole with unresolved issues about women, so my marriage status, or lack thereof, isn't going to change much.

Go get some therapy, work out your issues, and please don't send the police cryptic clues about where you hid the bodies. I'm done for the night.

[Heroic Mulatto]

*ahem*

Whom will you marry....

[Capt Ace Rimmer]

HM, thank you.

[jesse.in.mb]

Thanks HM, I needed some '70s pornstar "cowboys" in my evening.

[Mickey Rat]

It is as idiotic as calling anyone "homophobe".

[JW]

I was raised in middle America, it ain't much better. The girls *ALL* like alphas.

Maybe you should move, you now, out of the province.

[Mickey Rat]

How does one "loose" his job?

[Heroic Mulatto]

Damn it feels good to be a gangsta.
A real gangsta-ass nigga knows the play.
Real gangsta-ass niggas get the flyest of the bitches;
Ask that gangsta-ass nigga Little Jake.
Now bitches look at gangsta-ass niggas like a stop sign,
And play the role of Little Miss Sweet.
But catch the bitch all alone, get the digit, take her out,
and then end up hittin' her ass with the meat.
Cuz gangsta-ass niggas be the gang playas,
And everythings quiet in the clique.
A gangsta-ass nigga pulls the trigger,
And his partners in the posse ain't tellin' off shit.
Real gangsta-ass niggas don't talk much,
All ya hear is the blam from the gun blast.
And real gangsta-ass niggas don't run for shit,
Cuz real gangsta-ass niggas can't run fast.

Now when you in the free world talkin' shit, do the shit,
Hit the pen and let the mothafuckaz shank ya.
But niggas like myself kick back and peep game,
Cuz damn it feels good to be a gangsta.

[Calidissident]

I suppose the stylistic similarities are a coincidence too. As is the fact that you agreed with him in the Japan argument downthread.

[Calidissident]

If I have your argument correct, you dislike women because they are all the same and are all promiscuous and untraditional contrary to their biological nature, due to feminist propaganda? Is that it?

[Calidissident]

What's my point? Japan will have poor people to support just as we do. If we're using a relative definition of poverty, as real third-world style poverty isn't a problem in either country, then every country does. Japan's economy has been stagnant for 20 years. It's a nice place, but far from some postscarcity paradise. Nothing you've said refutes the fact that they have a demographic crisis on their hands. America is irrelevant to that discussion.

[Calidissident]

And you think China promoting eugenics is a great thing. All of these are total coincidences I'm sure.

[Xenocles]

There really is no way to measure stylistic similarity

Do you ever get tired of being wrong?

[Calidissident]

On a web site of this size, how many coincidental similarities can a newcomer have with a recurrent troll before the regulars are right to suspect he is the troll? It's not like I'm nitpicking either.

Tell me Gillmore, what are your thoughts, on blacks, Latinos, immigration, race and IQ, and the environment?

[Irish]

Don't forget that he uses the exact same tactic of dropping a single link with no additional commentary. I called him being American like 3 hours ago.

[GILMORE]

Yeah whatever. You're ugly and no one likes you anyway.

[jesse.in.mb]

Can you PLEASE be "The commenter formerly known as Gillmore"

[Calidissident]

If they're just following their biological nature, why do you criticize them so much while giving yourself a pass for following your nature as a man? That seems a bit hypocritical

[Francisco d Anconia]

This is the most interesting, incomprehensible thread EVER!

This must be a holdover argument from another thread cause I don't follow.

Gillmore and Virginian are on the same side yet arguing with each other.

Epi is obviously pissed off that men play games to get laid...or something.

Dagny and Nicole are on the same side AND siding with Jezzies?

Irish is siding with the girls and thinks Gillmore is a dick but Virginian is alright despite the same beliefs?

Something, something alpha/beta.

And everyone is surprised that people desire what they cannot have, women blow off nice guys they know they can have and that men treat them badly because of it?

That about cover it?

What are you guys, like 20?

That was extremely amusing.

[Calidissident]

The burden is one you to prove that's an adept analogy. Japan's debt burden is already significantly higher than ours is, and their age demographics less favorable. Show your work.

[Calidissident]

But you just admitted women are naturally promiscuous. Which men are as well. The degree may be different, but it's a bit ridiculous to hold drastically different standards if you admit that basic fact.

In your opinion, are Sharia-based Islamic dictatorships more civilized than modern Western countries?

[Calidissident]

What was the rest of that post going to say? Afraid to completely give away your identity Gill?

[darius404]

It would make sense that your many inbred cousins would agree with you. You're butt-fugly and you smell funny. Get over it.

[Rabban]

I lurk in the depths, but that ending was perfect. Well done sir. A internet for you.