The Bogus Case Against Junk Food
Anti-food nannies launch their latest attack.

A recent cover story in The New York Times Magazine offers a shocking exposé of Big Food. In granular detail it relates the food conglomerates' "hyper-engineered, savagely marketed, addiction-creating battle for 'stomach share.'" If you don't have the time to slog through the nearly 10,000 words, though, here's the big news in this shocking, horrifying, and incredibly alarming story.
You might want to sit down for this.
All set?
Here it is: Food companies work very, very hard to find out what will give you, the consumer, the most pleasure for your money—and then the diabolical fiends actually give it to you!
Seriously, you are supposed to be absolutely horrified by this. You can tell by the ominous language the author, Michael Moss, employs to describe how "food engineers alter a litany of variables with the sole intent of"—brace yourself—"finding the most perfect version" of a product. The most perfect version, of course, is the one that will "be most attractive to consumers." (The horror.) The piece even quotes one food-company executive who describes the strategy: "Discover what consumers want to buy and give it to them with both barrels."
This is hardly a new theme in the progressive press. You can read dozens of variations on it, if you care to. "How the Food Industry Is Enabling the United States' Obesity Epidemic" (ThinkProgress); "Snacks for a Fat Planet" (The New Yorker); "Can Big Food Kick Its Obesity Habit? Does It Really Want To?" (NPR); "How the Food Makers Capture Our Brains" (The New York Times, again).
Some of this is simply good, old-fashioned muckraking. Progressives love nothing better than to uncover a diabolical plot by corporate fat cats seeking to further engorge themselves by destroying the lives of the helpless and unsuspecting—preferably children, or perhaps simple but cinematically attractive small-town folk with hearts of gold. (Packaged food isn't the only industry with a formula.)
What makes it funny in the food case is the root of the objection: the voluntary relationship between the supplier and the consumer. Customers want certain things, and companies do their utmost to provide them. The Times Magazine piece feebly tries to suggest something much darker is going on, by repeating the word "addiction" (even though it's not warranted) and by noting "the body's fragile controls on overeating." Not to mention the "savage" marketing. (Go ahead and laugh, it's OK.)
But mostly it's about how food companies do a lot of research on things such as the perfect break point for a potato chip: Like Goldilocks and her preference for mattresses, people want chips that are not too hard and not too soft.
Somehow, progressives have concluded that striving to satisfy consumer preferences is a sneaky, underhanded thing to do, and therefore wrong. Private corporations, many progressives seem to believe, should not be trying to entice you to buy their commercial products by making those products extremely attractive.
Which, when you think about it, is hilarious.
Why? Because progressives have no compunction whatsoever about using the coercive power of the state to make you buy a commercial product whether you want it or not. Just eight months ago, progressives were whooping and high-fiving over the Supreme Court's ruling that the federal government can force you to buy health insurance. Now they're going to war again over the government's power to make religious institutions buy contraception coverage. Indeed, the principal progressive project for the past several decades has been to supplant the voluntary and consensual arrangements of the free market with involuntary and coercive arrangements imposed by government.
One possible comeback, of course, is that people who choose freely often choose things that are bad for them (e.g., potato chips and cola), whereas progressives only want what's best for people. That seems to be New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg's justification for banning large sodas, for instance. But using force to impose things that are good for people is wrong, most progressives say—at least when it comes to foreign policy.
Throughout the Bush years, large numbers of progressives railed against the use of coercive military power to achieve desirable ends, such as the spread of democracy. It was the height of imperialist arrogance, they said, to try to force American values on the rest of the world. In a 2008 piece in The Nation about Barack Obama's foreign policy, Robert Dreyfuss observed that "U.S. involvement abroad, even when well-intentioned, is perceived on the receiving end as heavy-handed meddling." (U.S. involvement at home is often perceived the same way.) Piece after piece on the left lamented American "bullying" and advocated instead "soft power"—trying to persuade those abroad to see things our way through diplomacy and attraction.
Yet when it comes to ordering the American public about, hard-power bullying apparently is not only perfectly fine, it is considerably more preferable than soft-power techniques such as, oh, making food taste good—which is just plain wrong. To paraphrase a certain businessman, many progressives seem to believe it is better to decide what consumers would want, if they weren't such drooling idiots—and then give it to them with both barrels.
This article originally appeared in the Richmond Times-Dispatch.
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Libertarians overestimate human agency.
We are not a nation of fatass diabetics because of a mass coincidence of poor choice-making.
Yes, the two time election of Barack Obama is all the proof you need that most people in America are so stupid that they'll just do whatever the TV tells them to.
sorry to break it to you, but most people are the result of the choices they have made.
And all people live in an environment of choices limited to some degree or another.
The hypothesis that America spontaneously became a nation of people with poor impulse control when it comes to calorie consumption is rather dead on arrival. An environmental explanation seems to be necessary.
Who said it was spontaneous? Your straw man?
He sure is good at debating those points that nobody makes.
"Psychosomatic auditory hallucinations... normally one would have to pay for such a thing."
The single biggest driver of American's obesity is the government propaganda calling for more and more carbohydrates and less protein and fat. Not to mention their subsidizing of the corn producers.
+ 100 succulent steaks
I want 100 Big Macs.
I'd like to see you eat them in 1 hour without puking.
(I confess to a sadistic streak.)
Exactly. Go paleo!
nothing spontaneous at all. We gradually became more sedentary, more lazy, less inclined to spend some time cooking and more amenable to quick/processed/easy foods. And we don't exercise much. Calories in calories out = fat.
calories in greater than calories out = fat.
Without an environmental change wouldn't it be an unbelievable coincidence that a large part of the country started choosing this lifestyle at the same time?
An environmental change such as a proliferation of cushy office jobs? With a government pushing everyone into higher education to fill them? That kind of change?
Not to mention increasing wealth and advancing farming and transportation technology driving down the price of food (especially the starchy foods subsidized by government) and a complete failure of the education system to teach basic home economics (which included things how to cook and portion sizes).
Oh yeah, and cars.
Time was back in the 50's and earlier a signficant portion of the population walked or biked to work, the grocery store, and anywhere else they needed to go to, by the mid 60's however most workers had a car
what environmental change? Physical labor has been less and less a part of the workforce for some time. The broadening of the waistline was a gradual occurrence, brought to a head by the nanny staters.
Fat lifestyle? How cool.
I'm not a fat ass diabetic. Why should my choices be limited because some people make bad choices or are prone to being fat?
Some people do manage to eat reasonably healthy. How come the evil ministrations of the evil corporations don't corrupt those people?
In any case, I think that most of the recent increase in obesity rates can be attributed to more sedentary lifestyles. That is far more of a problem than the type of food marketing that happens. And it is also an individual choice.
I'm not a fat ass diabetic. Why should my choices be limited because some people make bad choices or are prone to being fat?
Some people do manage to eat reasonably healthy. How come the evil ministrations of the evil corporations don't corrupt those people?
I bet you also play Call of Duty and have never shot a child in the face, you sick fuck!
Look I blame government. Government subsidies that have turned all of our food into a corn product, and government preferences for single-family homes and zoning for big box stores resulting in suburban sprawl and a car culture. I think that can explain a lot of the problem.
But humans are not omnipotent--they have to make choices in the environment they happen to be in. This happens to be an environment that promotes obesity. Since it was created mostly by government, surely you guys won't object to government changing the incentives around a bit to promote healthier lifestyles? Or are you gonna bitch and claw at your hair at the thought, presuming, wrongly, that the fatass diabetic status quo is the freest possible arrangement?
Derp derp derp.
Get rid of the corn subsidies, and stop teaching people they need 8-12 servings of carbs a day, and the problem will solve itself.
You want one group of bureaucrats working to make people fat, and another group working to make them thin. You're a total moron.
Since it was created mostly by government, surely you guys won't object to government changing the incentives around a bit to promote healthier lifestyles?
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gee, tony, when has it ever been a bad idea to let the same folks whose ideas contributed mightily to the problem be the same ones charged with solutions?
Yes, I object like hell. Govt action should be confined to ceasing its mindless subsidies of certain foodstuffs. Your last question is typical Obama derp, rejecting the argument that no one is making.
Stop intervening then. Bad idea chasing bad policy is not a way to go through life.
The government tells me what to feed my kids at my daycare. They challenge anything they're ignorant of on the menu.
Since it's Mediterranean/Italian inspired, there's a lot of shit they don't grasp. If it were up to us, pasta would be on the menu 3 or 4 times a week because when served properly to active kids, it's the best type of food and above all they LOVE IT.
Pasta cooking permutations are endless.
For example, my favorite is garlic and rapini. But for kids we make it with broccoli or peas with light marinara or tuna or sauteed cauliflower. You can get you serving of carbs, dairy and protein in ONE pasta dish.
Add soups which is on our menu four times a week because we feel soups are the stuff of a sound civilization and you have one healthy, menu.
We make pasta literally in 10-12 ways in consultation with a chef, parents and of course, my mother.
Parents love pasta. The government hates it. Carbs!
They contribute NOTHING to my business but I have to watch it because they can cite me.
They're fixated with their four food groups chart. It's a nice guide but I don't know of any mothers who had that thing pinned up the fridge.
60 million Italians. Second or third lightest population in Europe according to The Economist a couple of years back.
So carbs isn't the problem.
Damn. I never read the contents or nutrition info for thirty-five years. Now I've got my problem figured out. Who knew?
Tony| 2.25.13 @ 10:46AM |#
"We are not a nation of fatass diabetics because of a mass coincidence of poor choice-making."
Is it possible to squeeze more mendacity in one sentence?
I count unsupported assertion, question-begging and strawman, for a start.
The first thing I thought when I read that sentence was "Who is this 'We' you speak of?"
Libertarians overestimate human agency.
No libertarian who has ever read any of you posts overestimates human agency.
Tony:
Except when they're talking down democracy. Then, they're underestimating human agency: when mass appeal should be the primary criteria for selecting the most powerful people on the planet.
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The New York Times Magazine on the other hand, doesn't work all that hard to put out a product most consumers want, so the concept is foreign to them.
And, broader note, contrary to popular opinion, not everyone in America is obese. As someone whose BMI has hovered around 21 his entire life so far, I appreciate being able to purchase and consume vast amounts of so-called junk food when I so desire, and I thank those companies for working to meet my demands.
You skinny little bitch.
?Here it is: Food companies work very, very hard to find out what will give you, the consumer, the most pleasure for your money?and then the diabolical fiends actually give it to you!?
There is a problem with this, as any decent nanny should be able to point out. A diet organized around the satisfying of pleasure is going to lead to problems. A good nanny will take into account the pleasure one feels when something delicious is popped into the mouth, but that has to be weighed against many other considerations. If we?re relying on food provided by companies dedicated to giving ?the most pleasure for your money? that?s clearly stinting other values. Sorry kids, there?s more to life that making a world of disney pleasure out of everything.
Food is not fun, it?s cereal.
"Sorry kids, there?s more to life that making a world of disney pleasure out of everything."
That is a valuable insight - but its value is dependent on its being arrived at independently by the person who suffers the consequences of ignoring that insight.
Too bad but there are lots of very powerful people - the food industry - who reap substantial benefits by ignoring this and promoting a vision of the world in exact opposition to my valuable insight.
NYT products are Krugman and Dowd. They suck. No subscription from me. Simple.
Cigar Dave here in Tampa is always complaining about the Pleasure Police.
I met Cigar Dave in Ybor during Cigar Fest; he gave me a free Romeo & Julieta robusto with a Connecticut shade wrapper and honduran filler after I told him I only smoked Arturo Fuentes and Cuesta Reys. He said, "Try this, you'll love it."
He was wrong.
"Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar. Oh yeah? Well sometimes it's just a big brown dick." - George Carlin
"Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar. Oh yeah? Well sometimes it's just a big brown dick." - George Carlin Bill Clinton (or Monica Lewinski, which ever is funnier)
It's weird, but I like his radio show despite the fact that I'm not a cigar smoker and never have been.
He can be entertaining and informative. If the occasion ever arises when I am asked what kind of cognac I would like, I think I learned enough from his show to be able to fake a response (never had it before). And he did steer me toward a decent and affordable lighter.
We started drinking Banfi Rosa Regale because of him for New Year's. Back when he first featured it, it was hard to find. Now it's ubiquitous.
Well, yeah. I mean, when people do things voluntarily it's immoral, but using force is the height of virtue. And stuff.
Like Goldilocks and her preference for mattresses, people want chips that are not too hard and not too soft.
Explain the fucking kettle cooked chip craze then. I fucking hate those things, but for some reason those are the only kind of chips that offer Jalape?o flavor. So much for the theory that food companies are giving me what I want.
Well you know, kettle chips are a real man's chip. If that's not for you, I'm sure you can get some artisan baked zucchini flakes.
I tried kettle chips once! Once!
See if you can find these your way. They'll make your ears ring.
http://www.taquitos.net/chips/.....tato-Chips
What, do those go well with all the Allen's you guys drink up there in the Lew?
When we went out for lunch yesterday I saw the bartender pouring several Allen's and milk. That shit is fucking nasty. I had some ale I'd never heard of. Tap handle was shaped like a swan's neck and head. It was pretty good.
What? You can get at least a dozen different brands of regular ol jalepeno chips here.
Where is "here," and how can I get there?
Or better yet, just tell me what brands. I hear you can get anything on the internet.
Maybe I should just Google it....
Maybe I should just Google it....
Never mind. It only returns results for Kettle Cooked Chips.
Fuck i also had difficulty, only kind I could find that is probably not kettle cooked is pringles. I guess I just haven't noticed how most of the brands I eat are/have switched to kettle cooked. I swear to god I bought plain ol jalepeno lays as recently as a year ago.
Alright it's possible that Schlotzsky's chips aren't kettle cooked and they are my favorite but you can't buy them anywhere else.
Give Tony and his crew their way and you will get 1 kind of potato chip.
In a 4 oz plain package with gross, massive health warnings all over it.
At $15 per package. (2013 dollars)
Limit one per week per family.
Will they at least be Jalape?o flavor?
You'll be lucky if they're potato flavor.
Soy chips.
In Tony's ideal world, this is what everyone would drive.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trabant
sarcasmic| 2.25.13 @ 11:25AM |#
"In Tony's ideal world, this is what everyone would drive."
In shithead's ideal world, that's what everyone *did* drive, when it ran.
In shithead's ideal world, that's what everyone *did* drive, when it ran.
If the damn things were reliable, then all of the repair shops would have been out of business. They were putting people to work.
http://imcdb.org/images/003/574.jpg
I'm with you Crane. My buddies love Grandma Utz chips and when we get together for poker, it's always the fucking chip of choice unless I bring something else.
Tony is, in this thread, a classic example of the statist fallacy in action. Oh noes! Government distortion of the agriculture market created a problem! Clearly, we need a new government program to combat this problem! Removing the original distortion never entered into his thinking, did it?
Lather, rinse, repeat ad infinitum, and here we are.
these are the same folks convinced that discriminating against whites and Asians will solve previous discrimination against non-whites. It never crosses their mind that govt meddling either makes a problem worse or creates new problems.
The logical conclusion of responding to the consequences of bad policy with more bad policy is totalitarianism.
If we're not already there we're not too far away.
Sure,we are all libertarians here, eat what you want, stop regulating the food industry etc... But this is just stupid shilling for big food and their exceptionally CRONY form of capitalism. You are free to eat your bio-engineered vegis and your ridiculously processed factory made food, but spare me the bit about how it's just as good for you as anything else. I mean, what is the purpose of promoting stupid food other than funding?
You are free to eat your bio-engineered vegis and your ridiculously processed factory made food, but spare me the bit about how it's just as good for you as anything else.
I must have missed the comment making this argument. But answer me this: what is your evidence that GM crops are bad for you?
I think the point is that in addition to the subsidies for farm goods, junk food industries also get their own subsidies.
http://you-need-food.com/2013/.....subsidies/
So to hell with them. I agree with the gist of this article, though.
Writing an article about companies that make food that people want to eat is now shilling for BIG FOOD?
spare me the bit about how it's just as good for you as anything else
I must have missed that part.
You are free to eat your bio-engineered vegis and your ridiculously processed factory made food, but spare me the bit about how it's just as good for you as anything else.
I must have missed the comment making this argument. But answer me this: what is your evidence that GM crops are bad for you?
I'm all for ending corn subsidies and forcing the ethanol industry to take its chances in the open market. People of every political persuasion might be surprised at what food products become successful in that aftermath.
There is some merit to the idea that aggressive marketing, particularly to those who don't know much better, can strongly influence people's tastes. Why else would people think Miller Lite is good beer, or that the "Twilight" films are good cinema?
Why else would people think Miller Lite is good beer, or that the "Twilight" films are good cinema?
Obviously, some people are just stupid.
and the stupid are consumers, too.
Or people have different tastes.
Some people love asparagus, I hate it.
That doesn't make either me or those who love it stupid.
"You do your thing, I'll do mine" is fundamental to libertarianism.
But how will people know they're having fun wrong and liking the wrong things if there's nobody around to tell them?
There will always be people around to tell them.
I don't think you're stupid Aresen, just humorless.
Miller Lite is successful like McDonalds, Lays Chips, Holiday Inn, Exxon, etc. because people like consistency. No matter where in the country you are, you can get a couple McDoubles for a 2 bucks and fill up the tank with good quality Exxon gasoline. They have Miller Lite at most bars, and it tastes just like every other time.
Very few people really like to constantly try new things.
And that's what I mean by advertisers influencing consumer habits. Here in Athens, Georgia, the local economy affords lower drink costs in bars, but there are some establishments here that charge Atlanta prices, and some of the students just never go anywhere else to learn they've been paying too much.
Some of those kids go on to become corporate middle-managers and civil servants, of course...
"You just made a great point that you ARE greedy, don't care about poor people (nor understand what it's like to be in that position), that you think McCarthyism was a good thing, and that bragging about your business owner credentials means anything to the average person. Those days are done pal, go back to your boardroom and brag there. The average American doesn't like people like you. Wake up dude, owning a business isn't that impressive, it's more of a liability these days (and don't spew out more numbers without citing sources to try to show us how smart you are, anybody can do that), . Helping the greater good is what the American people want, which you obviously do not care about."
This is the quality of commenting at Huffington. It's how the left views small business.
This is the crowd we have to carry.
By the way, the person was merely challenging another commenter's demand that minimum wage be raised to $11. He suggested raising it to $20 and be done with it.
This was the response.
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+1 to ending corn subsidies. It's why corn and HFCS is used as a filler in everything.
A lot of it has to do with how our living habits and tastes have evolved with our diet. Because Americans live in an environment where salt and sugar is used more heavily, our palates have adjusted to consider that the new norm- it turns into a vicious cycle between consumers and food companies. Americans crave saltier and more sugary foods than the rest of the world, and we can change that without pulling out the ban (or tax) hammer.
International fast food companies already adjust the salt in their recipes to appeal to the palates of people in other countries. Usually it is from a combination of cultural preference, and a government using carrots and sticks on them. I think Finland curbed the rising salt content in their foods (and consequently their rates of high blood pressure and heart disease), simply via labeling requirements and voluntary agreements with food manufacturers. I'm not wild about putting warning labels on everything, but it seemed to work well for them. Of course it's only as effective as the standards you pick.
As for my junk food habit... I'm still a skinny bastard in spite of my binge-eating, so I've been slowly trying to cut my intake before my metabolism decides to not be so accommodating. I'm not about to play the victim about it though.
Oh- if anyone else is interested in trying to nudge themselves towards eating healthier, I started using a neat app called Fooducate. It lets you scan items to get quick health info, and a list of healthier alternatives. My only gripe is that some of their grading criteria are subjective; they sometimes dock items for having ingredients they consider "controversial," but that have not been proven unsafe yet.
In general though, it makes picking healthier versions of the stuff you like really simple.
Dear Reason.Com author,
The key words in your retort to the Times article are "the most pleasure". Pleasure is a physiological phenomenon based upon biological imperatives. And in this case it's an addiction causing imperative.
It is this line of thinking that continues the incorrect notion that overweight people are just "flat slobs." I assure you that it is far more complicated brain machinery than a lack of will power.
But perhaps you are right. It seems that cigarettes were made for pleasure as well. Perhaps we should let our children smoke. After all, Phillip Morris produced them to meet our pleasure needs.
Somehow, progressives have concluded that http://www.flickr.com/photos/92553764@N05/ striving to satisfy consumer preferences is a sneaky, underhanded thing to do, and therefore wrong. Private corporations, many progressives seem to believe, should not be trying to entice you to buy their commercial products by making those products extremely attractive.