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A.M. Links: Boehner Calls Obama Gutless, Joe Biden Recommends a Double Barreled Shotgun, French Troops to Begin Withdrawing From Mali Next Month

Ed Krayewski | 2.20.2013 9:00 AM

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  • i recommend they all just stop it
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    John Boehner called President Obama gutless for campaigning against sequestration but not offering any alternatives.

  • Joe Biden's advice to gun owners is to get a double barrel shotgun for self-defense. Is that what law enforcement is limited to?
  • More than 250 drug cases have been thrown out in Philadelphia because six former narcotics officers were found to be liars. They no longer work in narcotics but, naturally, are still on the force.
  • In New Mexico, state employees can collect worker's comp even if they were injured while drunk or high on the job.
  • The execution of the mentally retarded Warren Hill in Georgia was stayed by an appeals court just half an hour before it was scheduled.
  • France says its troops will begin to withdraw from Mali in the next few weeks, even as Islamist extremists continue to clash with security forces in the country.

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  1. Fist of Etiquette   12 years ago

    France says its troops will begin to withdraw from Mali in the next few weeks...

    Just as the Germans show up.

    1. LTC(ret) John   12 years ago

      Hell, I'd leave too. Afrika Korps II desert bugaloo.

    2. gaijin   12 years ago

      France...like a mouthy girlfriend....starting shit and then leaving the boyfriend to clean up. ribbit!

      1. Killazontherun   12 years ago

        They are there to clean up a problem caused by our military arming and training militias to wage war in Libya who later went home and joined the rebel cause.

        1. LTC(ret) John   12 years ago

          Um, the Taureg folks were armed and hired by Qaddaffi. Now, how many would have been brought in if the original revolt had been left to its own devices is an open question.

          1. Sevo   12 years ago

            The only real question is when will VW change the name on it's SUV?
            All else is commentary.

            1. Sevo   12 years ago

              its, not it's (damn it)

  2. sarcasmic   12 years ago

    Things you would never see on the roads of a free country like the USA.
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/new.....goods.html

    1. Way Of The Crane   12 years ago

      It's just a matter of time before we're all forced to ride modified tricycles to work here too.

      1. Mike M.   12 years ago

        Chony Krugnuts and Shrieking Idiot probably get a hard-on from those pictures.

    2. Rich   12 years ago

      Like that in Vietnam, too.

      If it's physically possible, you will see it.

      1. LTC(ret) John   12 years ago

        Saying from AF -

        Q: How many Afghans can you fit on a bike?

        A: One more.

    3. generic Brand   12 years ago

      Maybe if they were allowed to drive something a bit larger than a K-truck this wouldn't be a problem... haha, just kidding. They would just load a Toyota Tundra up even more.

  3. invisible furry hand   12 years ago

    New York mom charged with child endangerment after hiring strippers to perform lap dances at her 16-year-old son's birthday party, police say

    more

    1. Ted S.   12 years ago

      And this endangers the child how exactly?

      1. mad libertarian guy   12 years ago

        He might get an underage boner.

        1. Rich   12 years ago

          underage boner

          Nice band name.

      2. Tulpa (LAOL-PA)   12 years ago

        He might get crabs.

    2. Jordan   12 years ago

      The law is an ass. Give that mom a medal.

      1. Auric Demonocles   12 years ago

        In this case, the law seems to be the antiass.

      2. Fist of Etiquette   12 years ago

        I'd have to see the quality of stripper before passing judgment.

        1. invisible furry hand   12 years ago

          click through for a shot of her lapdancing with her face

          1. SugarFree   12 years ago

            The mom's 33. She pregnant when she was 16. That's a pretty big red flag for lack of judgement.

            1. Night Elf Mohawk   12 years ago

              My mother was pregnant with me at 16, but I didn't get any strippers at any of my birthday parties. That's going on my list of complaints when she asks why I'm putting her in a home.

              1. invisible furry hand   12 years ago

                do you need a list of complaints? Just snarl that she's lucky she's not going to the same farmer your dog went to

                1. Night Elf Mohawk   12 years ago

                  I figure there's no harm in having a list handy in case "It beats an ice floe, doesn't it?" isn't satisfying enough.

                2. Francisco d Anconia   12 years ago

                  Just snarl that she's lucky she's not going to the same farmer your dog went to

                  Wow. My dad sent a rabbit I had to a farm. I just now realized what happened. Thanks ifh. Now I'm retroactively scarred for life.

                  I thought that chicken tasted funny.

                  1. invisible furry hand   12 years ago

                    No no, your rabbit really did go to live with a farmer. Farmer Warty said he just loved your very cute rabbit to death. That means he took special care of it. Very special care

                    1. Kaptious Kristen   12 years ago

                      He loved him and hugged him and called him George.

                    2. Francisco d Anconia   12 years ago

                      Well, it WAS named snuggles.

              2. Killazontherun   12 years ago

                My bro paid a whore to blow me for my sixteenth birthday.

                1. Art Vandelay   12 years ago

                  "My bro paid a whore to blow me for my sixteenth birthday."

                  How much did he pay your sister?

                  1. Killazontherun   12 years ago

                    Sis charges too much. After the drinking, he could only afford to pay your mom to blow me.

            2. Corneliusm   12 years ago

              Think of it this way- in just a couple more years, she can hook up with his friends legally.

              1. robc   12 years ago

                Im a majority of states, the age of consent is 16. Without checking where this is from, she probably can now.

                1. Brett L   12 years ago

                  What does age of consent matter with your guardian's explicit permission?

          2. Fist of Etiquette   12 years ago

            At least it was a lady stripper. I am reminded of the Mr. Show that had parents proud of their gay son even though he was straight. I think they even brought home a male prostitute for him.

    3. PS   12 years ago

      33-year-old mom with 16 year old kid hires strippers for a party which has 13 and 14-year-old kids?

      The police charges are ridiculous, of course, but let's face it, this is a pretty trashy thing to do, although not surprising from a mom who got herself knocked up at 16. Being a 'cool' parent to a 16-year-old is not the same thing as being a good parent.

      1. robc   12 years ago

        My thought is along these lines. Want to buy a stripper for your own son? More power to you. For other people's underage kids? Yeah, we got a problem here.

  4. sarcasmic   12 years ago

    Cops let mother know her son is dead via Facebook.
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/new.....-time.html

    1. Enough About Palin   12 years ago

      You and 3 others like this.

  5. Fist of Etiquette   12 years ago

    More than 250 drug cases have been thrown out in Philadelphia because six former narcotics officers were found to be liars.

    Only six? Come on, it's Philadelphia. Relatively speaking, that's a model crime fighting unit.

    1. LTC(ret) John   12 years ago

      Are we sure it wasn't a 6 man unit? Then it would about right.

  6. sarcasmic   12 years ago

    Obsessed killer's plan to castrate Justin Bieber with hedge clippers detailed in chilling phone call recorded in prison

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/new.....rison.html

    I have no problem with this.

    1. Kaptious Kristen   12 years ago

      Isn't that like beating a dead horse?

    2. invisible furry hand   12 years ago

      Justin Bieber has balls?

    3. Jerry on the boat   12 years ago

      Why hedge clippers if a a pair of tweezers should suffice?

    4. SugarFree   12 years ago

      castrate Justin Bieber

      Joke's on him. FGM maybe.

    5. Fist of Etiquette   12 years ago

      That's nuts.

      1. LTC(ret) John   12 years ago

        Gah! Don't do that. Ever Again!

        1. $park?   12 years ago

          He's got a lot of balls throwing around puns like that.

          1. Fist of Etiquette   12 years ago

            I just didn't want to be another hater. Belieber Power! Also, Team Jacob.

        2. Francisco d Anconia   12 years ago

          Hey, hey...

          Don't get testi.

          1. LTC(ret) John   12 years ago

            You are now. On. The. List.

  7. sarcasmic   12 years ago

    Is it just me, or is there something a bit mismatched here?
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvs.....schko.html

    1. Way Of The Crane   12 years ago

      He's only dating her so he can feel huge.

    2. Rich   12 years ago

      Someone had to put her up to it.

      1. Auric Demonocles   12 years ago

        Seriously. Hayden, you're an attractive, young, blond, somewhat successful actress, possibly best known for portraying a cheerleader. If you're really just looking for a guy who is jacked you can find a younger one than this guy, and he doesn't have to look so constipated/stupid.

        1. Rich   12 years ago

          Whoosh!

        2. Brett L   12 years ago

          Isn't he a former pro-boxer? Maybe she likes them big, strong, and simple.

          1. fish   12 years ago

            Maybe she likes them big, strong, and simple.

            Maybe not the most rigorous course of study but he's certainly not Leon Spinks.

            ....the postgraduate study program of Kiev University. On 18 January 2001, in a conference hall of Kyiv University of physical science and sports, Klitschko presented his doctoral dissertation and was awarded a PhD in Sports Science. Klitschko speaks four languages: Ukrainian, Russian, German and English. At the beginning of his professional career, he began using the German transliteration of his name.. Wladimir.

          2. Red Rocks Rockin   12 years ago

            She dated the goony ginger from Entourage so her taste isn't all that sophisticated.

      2. Francisco d Anconia   12 years ago

        What you did there...

        I see it.

    3. Drake   12 years ago

      She is basically a pocket-pussy for him. Which is nice.

      1. Killazontherun   12 years ago

        ^this!

    4. Night Elf Mohawk   12 years ago

      It looks normal to me.

  8. SugarFree   12 years ago

    More than 250 drug cases have been thrown out in Philadelphia because six former narcotics officers were found to be liars.

    Impossible. Everyone knows that the police are brave heroes that deserve respect.

  9. sarcasmic   12 years ago

    Drew Barrymore! What happened?
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvs.....aylor.html

    1. Lord Humungus   12 years ago

      age. She was so cute in her Playboy shoot. (Now i feel old)

      1. Ted S.   12 years ago

        She's younger than I am. Don't make me feel old.

      2. Francisco d Anconia   12 years ago

        Didn't she just squirt out a kid too?

        Anyway, she's still on my celebrity waiver list.

    2. Cheradenine Zakalwe   12 years ago

      She was never attractive.

    3. Killazontherun   12 years ago

      Cake happened. And she was never pretty.

      1. Francisco d Anconia   12 years ago

        Both you and CZ...

        Please fuck off and die in a fire.

        And see Chuck's Angels Full Throttle.

  10. invisible furry hand   12 years ago

    Grindr for juggalos

    http://noisey.vice.com/en_uk/b.....iphone-app

    1. Ted S.   12 years ago

      juggalomingle.com?

      1. db   12 years ago

        mingelo.com

    2. Warty   12 years ago

      These guys are geniuses, I'm pretty sure. What else could they be?

  11. Drax the Destroyer   12 years ago

    So...I guess I'm moving to New Mexico now. And instead of listening to my doctor, I will ratchet up my drinking.

    1. T   12 years ago

      Where at in NM? I've benn drunk in Las Cruces a number of times, but don't recall being in the rest of the state much beyond that.

      1. Citizen Nothing   12 years ago

        I've been assigned a travel piece to write from Las Cruces in early May. Any recommendations (that could run in a family publication)?

        1. T   12 years ago

          I haven't been there since '91 so my recommendations would be horribly out of date.

          1. Citizen Nothing   12 years ago

            My plans now include staying at a B&B in old Mesilla, taking the tour of Spaceport, visiting White Sands National Monument, driving the "Old Mission Trail" south of El Paso -- and drinking a shitload of tequila, (but that last thing is off the record).

            1. robc   12 years ago

              High Desert Brewing Company looks interesting.

              They dont make anything interesting, looks like standard brewpub selection, but it gets decently high ratings.

              1. Gray Ghost   12 years ago

                Carlsbad looks a touch far. I thought Gruet as the vineyards are near Elephant Butte Reservoir, but the tasting room is in ABQ. If you're going to White Sands, is visiting the Trinity site an option?

                Googling came up with a couple of museums. Farm and Ranch Heritage anyone? But Las Cruces is usually just something I sped through on the way to either CA, ABQ, or El Paso.

                More googling comes up with a bunch of wineries in the Las Cruces area. As in, right in town. Yeah, I had no idea either. They probably suck, but ya' never know...

            2. Tejicano   12 years ago

              A must will be dinning at La Posta (if memory serves correct) in Mesilla. It is the one with a tank of piranha (no joke) right out front. I dropped in a few years back and it was still as good as it had been in the 70's.

              In case you have not been clued in yet ? never drink any Tequila that isn't at least an Anejo. Reposado can be good enough but if there is a choice go for top grade. There really is a difference as Anejo level quality does not hurt nearly as much the next morning.

  12. sarcasmic   12 years ago

    Kate Beckinsale. Yum.
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvs.....-show.html

    1. Drax the Destroyer   12 years ago

      She will be mine. Oh, yes. She will be mine.

    2. Rich   12 years ago

      Watch out! She's got a double-barreled shotgun under that thing!

    3. Brett L   12 years ago

      Her daughter looks unfortunately British. Maybe she'll grow out of it.

      1. sarcasmic   12 years ago

        You can cleanse your eyes with a few pics of Kim Basinger's daughter.

        http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvs.....y-joy.html

      2. Flatulent Monkey   12 years ago

        Yeah I was thinking that she looked a bit walleyed.

      3. Francisco d Anconia   12 years ago

        What are you talking about? Her teeth look straight to me.

        1. Brett L   12 years ago

          The turned up nose and the eyes that can see 180 degrees while looking straight ahead. I mean, she's going to be pretty for a British girl, but not with the hybrid vigor of her mother.

  13. Fist of Etiquette   12 years ago

    Joe Biden's advice to gun owners is to get a double barrel shotgun for self-defense.

    Self-defense central planning. It's not at all arrogant to think he can determine the protection needs of every single individual situation.

    1. Drax the Destroyer   12 years ago

      I think double barrel's kick ass, but even the crappy ones are like double the price of pump shotguns, let alone 2 shots are not as good as 4+. Then again, James Bond saved the day with little else than a double barrel in his last outing. Methinks, Biden watched that and started to confuse reality with 007 again.

      1. Virginian   12 years ago

        Yeah, quite a few idiot leftists (and one H and R regular!) were talking about smart guns after that movie came out. Which is like bringing up cold fusion during a talk about energy policy.

        1. Gladstone   12 years ago

          That smart gun was based off a gun from Licence to Kill back in 1989 natch.

      2. Drake   12 years ago

        Joe started getting confused about reality in the early 80's.

      3. mad libertarian guy   12 years ago

        Then again, James Bond saved the day with little else than a double barrel in his last outing. Methinks, Biden watched that and started to confuse reality with 007 again.

        If I had the skill set of James Bond, it wouldn't matter what gun I used because I'd be one of the baddest motherfuckers to have ever lived.

        But I don't, so I need equipment designed for the task of defending oneself in order to compensate for my lack of being Bond.

        Biden can go fuck himself. We don't all have the privilege of having an armed escort for protection 24/7 where one might feel like they can defend their home and family with a paltry double barrel bird gun.

      4. Quetzalcoatl   12 years ago

        If we're going to base home defense on Bond movies, why don't we go with laser-shooting Omega Seamasters?

        1. Gray Ghost   12 years ago

          Or the twin machine guns in the DB5.

          Biden is the comedy gift that keeps on giving, isn't he?

      5. Francisco d Anconia   12 years ago

        I always liked this one.

        1. NeonCat   12 years ago

          BATFE says NO!

    2. Chris Mallory   12 years ago

      In the right situation, a double barrel can be very effective. But Joe also recommended "stepping out on the balcony and letting loose with a couple blasts" or words to that effect. So disarm yourself and commit what is in most states a felony by shooting randomly into the air.

      1. mad libertarian guy   12 years ago

        Not only that, if I let loose a couple of blasts, I HAVE RUN OUT OF AMMO AND WILL NEED TO RELOAD, wasting valuable time and ammo.

      2. gaijin   12 years ago

        You know who else stepped out on a balcony to make a statement?

        1. Zombie Jimbo   12 years ago

          Well it wasn't Joe Biden, because the squirrel distracted him.

        2. $park?   12 years ago

          Michael Jackson?

        3. Ted S.   12 years ago

          Lee Tracy?

        4. LTC(ret) John   12 years ago

          B. Mussolini?

        5. Quetzalcoatl   12 years ago

          The Pope?

        6. invisible furry hand   12 years ago

          Juliet?

        7. Whahappan?   12 years ago

          MLK?

        8. Bobarian   12 years ago

          Lots of girls at Mardi Gras?

          1. LTC(ret) John   12 years ago

            + beads

        9. Knutsack   12 years ago

          Tony Montana?

        10. Stormy Dragon   12 years ago

          Eva Peron?

          1. LTC(ret) John   12 years ago

            +1 cry

        11. EDG reppin' LBC   12 years ago

          This guy?

      3. Rich   12 years ago

        So disarm yourself and commit what is in most states a felony by shooting randomly into the air.

        Biden is crazy like a fox.

      4. generic Brand   12 years ago

        You thought they would actually sell you shotgun shells? The gun obviously doesn't have any slugs or buckshot in it when are firing off your meaningless warning shots.

      5. T   12 years ago

        Joe also perpetrates the old "you don't need to aim a shotgun" bullshit. Ask guys who do 3-gun about that one.

        1. Corneliusm   12 years ago

          He also advocates firing warning shots, which are considered felonies in many jurisdictions and frowned upon by prosecutors in others. It sounds like he wants everyone who finds themselves on the victim end of a DGU to wind up in jail.

          1. itsnotmeitsyou   12 years ago

            That's not a glitch, that's a feature. Felons aren't allowed to own guns. So, follow Biden's advice and no one needs to ban guns because no one will be allowed to own them.

        2. db   12 years ago

          Yeah. I shoot three-gun and shotgun is the most challenging part for me.

        3. mad libertarian guy   12 years ago

          Joe also perpetrates the old "you don't need to aim a shotgun" bullshit.

          But let's assume he's correct.

          In what fucking universe is a gun that patterns across entire rooms appropriate for home defense where there might be, you know, other people besides an intruder? I highly doubt that "Biden told me to use a shotgun with a wide pattern" would work in court when you end up hitting your kid in addition to/instead of the intruder you meant to hit.

          1. Stormy Dragon   12 years ago

            On the other hand, a shotgun isn't going to accidentally shoot your neighbors through the wall.

            1. Professional Target   12 years ago

              Neither is a 55 grain projectile from a .223. They destabilize very quickly passing through foliage, much less drywall.

            2. Tulpa (LAOL-PA)   12 years ago

              Say hello to the Box O' Truth:

              Lessons learned:
              1. Contrary to what we have been told, XM-193 does not seem to "fragment" when shot into drywall walls. After we were through for the day, we even shot several more rounds of XM-193 into the walls to see if we could get one to fragment. They did not.

              It is clear that they were tumbling and deviating from the flight path, but they were still penetrating the walls.

              Now, before anyone says it, No, I do not know how much damage they would do to someone after the 4th wall. But they would do some damage as they were still penetrating.

              2. Remington 55 grain JSP and Frangible 5.56 also penetrated all 4 walls. So did the .30 Carbine.

              When shooting rifles, walls are concealment, not cover.

              3. 00 Buck penetrates 4 walls with ease. It is a great "Stopping" round, but there is a price to pay.

              Until someone invents a "Phaser" like on Star Trek, anything that will stop a bad guy, will also penetrate several walls.

              4. Birdshot does not excessively penetrate drywall walls. But it does not penetrate deeply enough to reach a bad guy's vital organs. Birdshot makes a nasty but shallow wound. It is not a good Stopper.

              Use Birdshot for little birds. Use 00 Buckshot for bad guys.

              1. Stormy Dragon   12 years ago

                Oh if only there were shotgun rounds intermediate between birdshot and 00 Buckshot. Oh wait, there are.

            3. sloopyinca   12 years ago

              Neither a shotgun nor a rifle is going to accidentally shoot your neighbors through the wall since inanimate objects cannot fire themselves.

              1. LTC(ret) John   12 years ago

                Oh come now, Sloopy - everyone knows that these dangerous weapons of war leap off of tables, out of closets and cavort around the room, firing off at random intervals. It is what they do!

                /Frum

              2. Stormy Dragon   12 years ago

                You know what I meant.

            4. mad libertarian guy   12 years ago

              On the other hand, a shotgun isn't going to accidentally shoot your neighbors through the wall.

              And a shotgun is one of the weapons I have for home defense use. For instance, if I'm barricaded in a closet or room with my entire family, a shotgun is probably ideal.

              But it isn't a double barrel bird gun.

              It's a Remington 870 outfitted with a pistol grip, light integrated fore end, an 8 round tube magazine, and a door breaching choke. It's a gun designed for defense purposes, not shooting quail in a wide open field.

        4. Tulpa (LAOL-PA)   12 years ago

          You just need to get one of the shotguns with the magnetic barrel extension.

    3. db   12 years ago

      Biden can forego his SS protection and just carry a double barrel shotgun.

  14. invisible furry hand   12 years ago

    Happy birthday, Poison Ivy!

  15. Fist of Etiquette   12 years ago

    John Boehner called President Obama gutless for campaigning against sequestration but not offering any alternatives.

    Did he also mention that Obama's John Hancock is on it?

  16. Lord Humungus   12 years ago

    Where Have All the Babies Gone?
    More and more Americans are childless by choice. But what makes sense for the individual may spell disaster for the country as a whole.

    http://www.thedailybeast.com/n.....erica.html

    "I don't know if that's selfish," says Jordan, the daughter of an Ecuadoran and an Ohioan who grew up in the South Bronx, explaining her reasons for a decision increasingly common among women across the developed world, where more than half of the world's population is now reproducing at below the replacement rate. "I feel like my life is not stable enough, and I don't think I necessarily want it to be ... Kids, they change your entire life. That's the name of the game. And that's not something I'm interested in doing."

    1. LTC(ret) John   12 years ago

      Good, leave the world to those of us (and our kids, naturally) not acting out an evolutionary dead end.

      1. Kaptious Kristen   12 years ago

        You seem hurt that people might not chose to have kids. "Fine! Go ahead and don't have kids! Harumph!"

        1. Jordan   12 years ago

          Yeah, I never understood the rage that parents feel towards childless people. It's not my fault you chose to give up all your free time and disposable income.

          1. gaijin   12 years ago

            I never understood the rage that parents feel towards childless people.

            Pretty broad brush you are painting with. Maybe you should meet more parents.

            1. Jordan   12 years ago

              Poor phrasing. I didn't mean all parents. Just the ones who get pissed.

              1. $park?   12 years ago

                IME, you're more likely to catch shit from your parents when you tell them. Because GRANDBABIEZ!!

              2. GozWa   12 years ago

                which is well over 50% of them

            2. SugarFree   12 years ago

              I think it's the disproportionate response you sometimes get.

              "My wife and I have decided not to have kids."

              "Well, we're keeping the human race from going extinct!"

              Very few childless-by-choice people are that hilariously defensive about their choice. It's indicative of a regret of having children and not being able to directly express that regret.

              Of course, there are assholes on both sides of any debate.

              1. Night Elf Mohawk   12 years ago

                "Thank Zod!" is a much more effective response than "Well, we're keeping the human race from going extinct!"

              2. Andrew S.   12 years ago

                You've never been to Reddit's Childfree subreddit. My wife used to hang out at those places, before we decided to have kids. They're pretty ugly.

                1. SugarFree   12 years ago

                  Choose any subject and you can find a place on the internet featuring the worst people ever.

                  1. T   12 years ago

                    I thought we were all here already?

                    1. EDG reppin' LBC   12 years ago

                      ^^^Exactly. That's why I keep showing up.

                2. Quetzalcoatl   12 years ago

                  You've never been to Reddit's Childfree subreddit. My wife used to hang out at those places, before we decided to have kids. They're pretty ugly.

                  Yeah... those are the people I was talking about below.

              3. robc   12 years ago

                there are assholes on both sides of any debate.

                The existence of the term "breeders" proves that.

                AFAIK, parents dont have an equally derogatory term for the childless.

                There are absolutely assholes on both sides, but it appears to me the bigger assholes are the anti-child assholes.

                1. Tulpa (LAOL-PA)   12 years ago

                  Might have something to do with the constant haranguing childless people get from the childful (especially their own parents). It's far more socially acceptable to ask someone why they don't have kids than it is to ask them why they did have kids, so the breeders don't need a derogatory term for the Mules.

                  1. robc   12 years ago

                    especially their own parents

                    Thats a personally problem.

                    My mother has officially given up on me, so I got that going for me.

                  2. Way Of The Crane   12 years ago

                    so the breeders don't need a derogatory term for the Mules.

                    Please tell me that your use of the term "breeders" is an indication that you don't plan on having kids.

                    1. Tulpa (LAOL-PA)   12 years ago

                      I was using it because robc used it, but it is true that I don't expect to find a woman willing to put up with me for more than a month who doesn't smell like compost and/or have her butt roll when she walks.

                2. Enough About Palin   12 years ago

                  "AFAIK, parents dont have an equally derogatory term for the childless."

                  DINK: Double Income No Kids

                  It was used a lot in the 1980's.

                  1. Kaptious Kristen   12 years ago

                    That makes me a SINK. Schweet!

                  2. robc   12 years ago

                    DINK: Double Income No Kids

                    It wasnt, at least at first, derogatory. It, like Yuppie, was an acronym created to explain some social phenomena or something. And it never caught on as an insult.

                    "Breeder" was meant in an insulting way from its first use in this context.

                  3. fish   12 years ago

                    Acronyms don't count as derogatory.

                3. Zeb   12 years ago

                  Isn't "breeders" mostly used by gay people, somewhat humorously?

                  1. jesse.in.mb   12 years ago

                    You're right Zeb, but I can see how that would really easily be re-appropriated for intentionally childless straights.

          2. Quetzalcoatl   12 years ago

            For my part, it's not the childless that tick me off, it's that archetypal childfree person who uses the word "breeder". They're certainly not the majority, but they're real and I've met 'em.

            1. gaijin   12 years ago

              Interesting. Back in the mid 80s I was at an amusement park where it was, apparently, gay day. Lots of men, a few women, all wearing red shirts, holding hands in public...big stuff at the time. Strength in numbers. I was sympathetic to the people I saw. There were chants. One that I remember clearly was was "2, 4, 6, 8, we don't over populate'. It seemed the irony of their existence was lost in the desire to be confrontational. Not to mention, they seemed to lose perspective that many 'breeders' might actually support their rights.

              1. mad libertarian guy   12 years ago

                One that I remember clearly was was "2, 4, 6, 8, we don't over populate'.

                Disingenuous fucks.

                I know plenty of gay folk. Some of them hang out almost exclusively with other gays. Not a single one of them have ever told me the reason they became gay was so they wouldn't contribute to overpopulation.

                Those fucks are TRYING to start shit.

                1. robc   12 years ago

                  And considering how many gay couples are adopting/having kids via other means/etc, they in fact are contributing.

                  1. Stormy Dragon   12 years ago

                    How does adopting contribute to overpopulation?

                    1. robc   12 years ago

                      How does adopting contribute to overpopulation?

                      Supply/Demand. Duh.

                      Plus, I would have to think that adopted kids have a longer average life span that kids who are never adopted.

              2. JW   12 years ago

                One that I remember clearly was was "2, 4, 6, 8, we don't over populate'.

                No U-hauls in the parking lot, eh?

                1. Enough About Palin   12 years ago

                  + 1 Butch/Fem Dynamic

          3. JW   12 years ago

            It's not my fault you chose to give up all your free time and disposable income.

            That is what I like to point out when DINKs or singles complain about parents who get to leave work early.

            I tell you what: I won't complain about all of the incessant travelling, eating and drinking posts on Facebook you make and you won't complain about me having to stop what I'm doing and go retrieve another sick kid from school. Capiche?

            1. KMA Too   12 years ago

              Ummmmm.....No. You not wanting to read something is far different from someone with no dependent children having to pick up your slack at work.

              Now, if it's your contention that those who don't have to drop everything at work to go deal with "sick kids" get to benefit more at work when they pick up the slack (get more/better promotions, increased pay, etc.), that's fine. That would fall under the "choices have consequences" column. Otherwise, Hell no.

        2. LTC(ret) John   12 years ago

          I'm not hurt at all. More for us...wait, debt, dead hand of gov't wringing more out of us... can I take that back?!

          I am more poking fun at the weird pov the lady in the article seems to be exhibiting. If people don't want kids, fine by me.

    2. Kaptious Kristen   12 years ago

      I would've had kids if it wasn't for all the screeching and screaming. Seriously - why do they do that?

      1. Jordan   12 years ago

        And the shitting.

        1. Kaptious Kristen   12 years ago

          Believe it ro not, the shitting and barfing bothers me 10x less than the screeching.

          1. Virginian   12 years ago

            If you do your job right, the screeching and screaming is minimal after year 3 or so.

            1. mad libertarian guy   12 years ago

              If you do your job right, the screeching and screaming is minimal after year 3 or so.

              And you have to continue to wipe ass for years longer.

              Wiping ass sucks. By the time my youngest can wipe his own ass with competency, I will have had to wipe someone else's ass for 11-12 years. That's bullshit.

              1. Virginian   12 years ago

                I can't remember a time when I couldn't wipe my own ass.

              2. gaijin   12 years ago

                I will have had to wipe someone else's ass for 11-12 years. That's bullshit.

                Then you get to wipe your parent's ass...and the cycle continues!

                1. Rich   12 years ago

                  It's ass-wiping all the way down!

                2. Citizen Nothing   12 years ago

                  The Circle of Asswiping is a beautiful thing.

            2. Kaptious Kristen   12 years ago

              So even at a place like a water park, the well-trained kid won't screech? My experience says otherwise.

              I get that a water park is an appropriate place to screech, but I still don't like it. It makes me cringe. Even when my dogs gets that high-pitched yap, I cringe.

              I'm just not cut out to have kids, plain and simple.

              1. SugarFree   12 years ago

                Most children scream at around 3500 Hz, one of the most sensitive frequencies for the average adult. Evolution has screwed you again, Kay-Kay.

                1. mad libertarian guy   12 years ago

                  Most children scream at around 3500 Hz, one of the most sensitive frequencies for the average adult.

                  My oldest kid had the absolute most annoying habit of purposefully fluctuating his pitch during a fit until he hit the absolute most annoying sound you could hear. That shit got old quick.

                  We also beat it out of him quick too.

              2. Citizen Nothing   12 years ago

                I've got four of my own, and I simply cannot endure entering a Chuck E. Cheese. I'd rather have a root canal.

                1. gaijin   12 years ago

                  They sell beer at CEC for a reason you know.

                  1. Whahappan?   12 years ago

                    They don't in Jersey.

                  2. H. Reardon   12 years ago

                    Unfortunately only Budweiser and Coors Light on my last visit. I got lemonade. Wish I had know and I would have brought some vodka. I definitely needed it.

                2. Kaptious Kristen   12 years ago

                  That's like The Ground Round from my kiddiehood.

              3. Ice Nine   12 years ago

                I get that a water park is an appropriate place to screech, but I still don't like it. It makes me cringe.

                It is my experience that parents of screeching kids, which is to say parents, don't even hear it. And I mean pretty much across the board. It baffles me because that high-pitched scream that little kids do is to me one of the most horrible and unignorable sounds that exist.

                1. JW   12 years ago

                  We notice. Trust me. If we show that we notice, they win.

                  NEVER NEGOTIATE WITH TERRORISTS.

          2. playa manhattan   12 years ago

            You can train the screeching right out of any kid if you really commit yourself to it...

          3. Lord Humungus   12 years ago

            shitting and barfing

            It's like taking care of someone who has the flu - one that lasts for a long time.

      2. Way Of The Crane   12 years ago

        I would've had kids if it wasn't for all the screeching and screaming. Seriously - why do they do that?

        It's nature's way of ensuring that only the genetic material of the strong survive. Those who can't take the screaming either don't have kids or eat their young.

      3. Ted S.   12 years ago

        For the same reason many adult women do? :-p

        (This is why there are no female libertarians....)

    3. Spoonman.   12 years ago

      SLD: People should do whatever works for them.

      But when the encouraged culture among young people is "stay young", "your career is the most important thing", etc, why do you expect them to get married and have kids?

      Personally my wife and I are planning on kids in the very near future, but everyone thought I was an "old man inside" in college.

      1. Auric Demonocles   12 years ago

        We aren't all fortunate enough to find someone to marry before college is even done. If I had a wife, I'd probably be looking to have kids in 2-4 years. As it is, I've got a lot more ground work to lay.

        1. mad libertarian guy   12 years ago

          As it is, I've got a lot more ground work to lay.

          Sounds like you got some more pipe to lay too.

          1. Auric Demonocles   12 years ago

            There's a lot of stuff that needs to be laid first.

        2. Spoonman.   12 years ago

          That's definitely a factor too, I got super lucky there. I was surprised how many of my college friends weren't really looking for a spouse.

          1. Quetzalcoatl   12 years ago

            Haha, I got married a year after graduation, and three of our friend-couples had already gotten married.

            We were the late ones.

          2. Auric Demonocles   12 years ago

            I'll probably be breaking up with my girlfriend tonight basically because I don't see a marriage with her working out, even though I really like spending time with her right now.

            1. Spoonman.   12 years ago

              Sorry to hear that. It is worth everything to find somebody who's right.

            2. SugarFree   12 years ago

              Just be honest. That's the key.

              "I've met someone else, Helen. Someone who makes me feel alive. I only know his screen name, but I feel deep in my heart that SugarFree and I are meant to be together."

              1. Auric Demonocles   12 years ago

                I think you've got the same 2 main problems she has: You won't put out enough, and you want to live in a crappy part of the country.

                1. SugarFree   12 years ago

                  Then I suggest you fake your death.

                  1. Auric Demonocles   12 years ago

                    I'm planning on leaving the country for 3 weeks starting this weekend. Is that good enough?

                    1. SugarFree   12 years ago

                      It's even easier to fake your death in a foreign country.

                    2. Auric Demonocles   12 years ago

                      Who knew how dangerous Europe was? If only I had had a gun.

                    3. SugarFree   12 years ago

                      So many canals to throw clothes in; some many craggy walls have fallen from.

            3. EDG reppin' LBC   12 years ago

              That's rough. But as I approach my 10th wedding anniversary, I can say I am truly happy that I married the right woman. When I think of some of the serious relationships I had before I met my wife, I can only imagine how miserable a marriage would have been.

              Ironically, when I met my wife, we had no plans of serious relationships, marriage, children or anything. Until one day we both realized we were in love, and got hitched.

            4. Francisco d Anconia   12 years ago

              Not judging, but are you in some kind of rush to get married?

              If it was me, I'd sit back and enjoy the good company. There will be plenty of time for being miserable later.

              1. Auric Demonocles   12 years ago

                Not particularly, but if it's not going to be a permanent thing, I might as well not be in a serious monogamous relationship anyway.

    4. Drax the Destroyer   12 years ago

      I personally would like to have kids. Finding a woman (the women?) brain-damaged enough to let me ruin her body (thier bodies?) to build my army of lazy-as-fuck-liberty-minded-douchebags is the real issue.

      1. Way Of The Crane   12 years ago

        Have you tried mail order brides?

        1. Drax the Destroyer   12 years ago

          The funny/unfortunate thing is that the real problem in the equation is liberty. The very idea of even recognize some superior outcomes of homeschooling makes most women I run into pull out the holy water and crucifix. Unfortunately for them, that shit doesn't actually work on vampires let alone the Destroyer.

        2. Atanarjuat   12 years ago

          A coworker had a nice Filipina shipped to him. They're expecting their first child now. As I see it:

          PROS - can cook, kinda cute, probably better than dying alone
          CON - a lifetime of mail-order bride jokes behind your back

          1. robc   12 years ago

            Way to eliminate the CON: make the jokes FIRST.

          2. Ice Nine   12 years ago

            You forgot: CON - her whole family soon living down the street

            1. Ice Nine   12 years ago

              Also you forgot: CON - nipples that look like nightcrawlers

              1. Way Of The Crane   12 years ago

                I know we can no longer adopt Russian Children, but have they restricted ordering Russian brides yet?

                1. SIV   12 years ago

                  I know a guy who got a mail order Russian bride 10+ years younger than him who spoke excellent English and had highly marketable technical skills. They were married, she got a job earning way more than he did and paid off all his near 6-figure debt.They are still happily married 10+ years later. I wouldn't expect this to be typical.

    5. SugarFree   12 years ago

      Where Have All the Babies Gone?

      To bars apparently. Can't I just drink myself to an early grave in sullen silence?

      1. Auric Demonocles   12 years ago

        Listen, if you are going to try to go ogle the possibly underage college chicks at the bar, you're gonna have to put up with the fact that you're at a college bar.

        1. SugarFree   12 years ago

          No, no. These are craft beer bars where hipster parents drag their kids around like dripping accessories.

          Of course, it's not like the kid choose to come to the bar, so I try not to take it out on them.

          1. robc   12 years ago

            If it was truly a BAR, under 21 wouldnt be allowed in the door.

            Actual quote from me at the Grale last Saturday:

            "[Odds are that] One of them has Daddy issues. Now I just have to figure out which one."

            note: and nothing else happened.

          2. Auric Demonocles   12 years ago

            My god, you're ogling the kids, even right in front of their parents? You're a sick, sick man.

          3. Gray Ghost   12 years ago

            No, no. These are craft beer bars where hipster parents drag their kids around like dripping accessories.

            Oh dear Lord, this. Look, despite the name, this isn't really a pub out of EastEnders, and we aren't really in Britain. So be an adult, get a sitter, and leave your kids, stroller, and diaper bag at home.

            What's with the no longer getting a babysitter thing anyway? Is it that Millenial 12 year old girls no longer need spending money, or is it that this crop of new parents won't entrust their kids for a few hours to anything less than a hybrid of Mrs. Doubtfire and Jason Bourne?

            1. Zeb   12 years ago

              Nah. The baby sitters just all want $20/hour now.

      2. Kaptious Kristen   12 years ago

        You need to come to my local watering hole. I don't recall ever seeing a minor of any age in there.

        1. Kaptious Kristen   12 years ago

          Oh, but my watering hole doesn't have a great beer selection. It's just an old craphole with great live bluegrass on Fridays and Saturdays (if you can stand the hipsters coming to enjoy the music ironically)

          1. Citizen Nothing   12 years ago

            The hipsters have taken to bluegrass? Fuck. First PBR, then bourbon and now this? Why, oh why, won't they leave us hillbillies alone?

            1. jesse.in.mb   12 years ago

              My roommate mocked me relentlessly for listening to bluegrass until the hipsters started liking it. She's now retconned that she ever disliked it and has decided that she is "way more into" it than I am.

              1. Citizen Nothing   12 years ago

                Next thing you know, they'll be appreciating (ironically) Rand Paul.

                1. jesse.in.mb   12 years ago

                  Eh, my roommate is already there. Her favorite professor was Walter Block, but I think she might be an outlier with the hipsters.

            2. Zeb   12 years ago

              They've been into bluegrass for a while.

              Personally, I love bluegrass right up until someone starts singing.

    6. mad libertarian guy   12 years ago

      I feel like my life is not stable enough . . .

      Word of advice. If you are the average person (I.e., not super rich) your life is NEVER stable enough to have kids. So stop even thinking that you somehow should wait until it is.

      1. T   12 years ago

        Even if your life was stable, a kid will knock that shit over. We just got an 8 month old from the state, so I know from harsh recent experience.

    7. Brian D   12 years ago

      Where Have All the Babies Gone?

      Long time passing...

    8. mr simple   12 years ago

      I've been informed by a few right-thinking progressives that it is selfish to want children with all the problems of this day and age. People get upset when you don't make the same decisions as they do. It's as if they need to make you feel bad to try to justify their own decisions. Personally, I don't give a shit what you do with your life, I have my own plans.

      1. mad libertarian guy   12 years ago

        I've been informed by a few right-thinking progressives that it is selfish to want children with all the problems of this day and age.

        Where do they get this shit.

        We live when it has never been safer to be alive.

        1. NeonCat   12 years ago

          Shouldn't we encourage more progressives to think this way?

          1. mad libertarian guy   12 years ago

            Shouldn't we encourage more progressives to think this way?

            Yep.

      2. Francisco d Anconia   12 years ago

        I personally just don't like the little screaming, pooping, puking, money pits. But, to each his own.

        One word of advice to anyone on the fence. Before deciding, do the math.

    9. itsnotmeitsyou   12 years ago

      My wife and I never wanted kids. There are a few people we've met who understood or supported our decision. However, the vast majority of people look at me like I'm a serial killer or a rapist because I don't like kids. The nicest thing I've been called is "selfish". I won't go into details about some of the nastier things we've been called.

      My thought is this. If you like kids and you want them, have them. I know a guy who's got 10 and still wants more. That's cool. I'd put a gun in my mouth with that many kids around all the time, though.

      I'm just sick of being looked down upon by parents that think I'm defective because I have no paternal instincts. My sister handed me her son once and I kinda just stared at him, hoping he didn't puke on me or start crying. I told her that there's no way in hell I'm babysitting until the kid can wipe his own ass.

      1. Kaptious Kristen   12 years ago

        I don't mind my friends' kids. But they're not around 24/7 - I just see them for a couple hours at a time at parties, and we have fun. Hell, I even like that the squeeze is not around 24/7, and he's 46.

        1. itsnotmeitsyou   12 years ago

          Playing with my friends'/family's kids is great. I can give them back if they get smelly or loud.

          It just pisses me off that many parents see themselves as better or more noble than me because they have children. Having children doesn't make you a saint or a martyr and not wanting children doesn't make me a monster.

          When many of them find out that I'm not only childless-by-choice, but also an atheist... WOW, you'd think I just sprouted horns and a tail then pulled a pitchfork out. I actually had one mother pull her kids away from where I was playing with my nephew once.

          1. JW   12 years ago

            I think you need to find better people to hang around.

            That, or flaunt your free time and disposable income as revenge.

            1. SugarFree   12 years ago

              Or, if you are close enough, buy their kids a drum set and make sure the kids open it.

            2. itsnotmeitsyou   12 years ago

              Mostly it's coworkers, friends of the family, people within my family that are overtly critical. My best friend and his wife aren't fans of children either and my friends that do have kids are usually pretty ok with it.

              The lady that pulled her children away was on a playground. We got to talking about my nephew, which led to asking when I was having children, which led to "it's in the bible that you should have kids", which led to OMG EEEEVIL BARREN DEVIL ATHEIST!!! RUUUUUUUUUUUN!

            3. itsnotmeitsyou   12 years ago

              Oh, and I do flaunt the hell out of my disposable income. I bought an Audi TT convertible last summer and was told by a few of my family that it wasn't a practical car. Just looked at them and said "well, when you don't have kids, you can drive a two seater. Have fun in your minivan"

              1. mad libertarian guy   12 years ago

                A minivan is for when you have lost your soul. I have 2 kids, but will NEVER have a minivan. Our family car is a Tundra.

                1. Tejicano   12 years ago

                  Yup. The car I got when our second son came along was a 320 hp, turbo, AWD Stagea.

        2. Zeb   12 years ago

          I love kids. But I also like it when they go away when they start screaming and shitting.

    10. Stormy Dragon   12 years ago

      Two big reasons I don't want to have kids:

      1) Let's flip a coin. If it comes up heads I'm taking half your stuff and you'll never see your kids again. Is it a shock it's getting increasingly harder to find people willing to take this bet?

      2) There's no longer any life balance in having children. When I grew up, I was expected to see to my own entertainment for a signifcant portion of the time, leaving my parents free to still have something of a life to themselves. Now adays, you're expected to spend every free moment catering to your children. Again it's not suprising that it's becoming harder to find people willing to do that.

      1. Tulpa (LAOL-PA)   12 years ago

        QFMFT on #2 at least. My nieces expect to be entertained/played with by adults pretty much constantly. My mom foolishly babysits them for free, ensuring that she will constantly be asked to babysit, and has to come up with stuff for them to do every friggin time... then calls me and complains to me on the phone about it. I tried asking her why she didn't complain to the kid's parents once instead of calling me; that didn't go well.

        1. itsnotmeitsyou   12 years ago

          Agreed. I remember being told on multiple occasions "the adults are talking right now, go play with your toys/outside/etc" So we did. We entertained ourselves or got into some kind of trouble, but we survived. I have been in the middle of a conversation with a parent and had them start playing paddy cake or someshit with their kids while we're trying to have an adult conversation because the kid was "bored" Louis CK has the best line ever about being bored.

          "'I'm bored' is a useless thing to say. You live in a great, big, vast world that you've seen none percent of. And even the inside of your own mind is endless. It goes on forever inwardly. Do you understand? Being the Fact that you're alive is amazing, so you don't get to be bored."

  17. Longtorso   12 years ago

    Comcast denying gun advertisements on network

  18. invisible furry hand   12 years ago

    "Look, Grandad's in the paper!"

    Ilkeston man charged with having sex with a horse has died

    1. Rich   12 years ago

      Now that the charges have been dropped, the family plans to bury the horse in question alongside Mr. Coulby.

    2. jesse.in.mb   12 years ago

      Mr Coulby, of Hillingdon Drive, Ilkeston, was due to face charges of having intercourse with a living animal between February 1 and June 6 last year.

      I'm a little sad that there are laws to differentiate between vanilla horsefucking, and necro-horsefucking.

  19. Lord Humungus   12 years ago

    Brothers celebrate lottery win by blowing up house
    http://www.kansas.com/2013/02/.....y-win.html

    The brothers were in a house in the 100 block of North Nevada Court, near Douglas and West Street, about 7 p.m. Friday, Watts said. One of the brothers went to the kitchen to refuel the butane torches they planned to use to light their bongs. He emptied a couple of large cans of butane lighter fluid, leaking butane into the air.

    "The butane vapor reached the pilot light in the furnace, and as you might expect, ka-boom," Watts said.

    1. Auric Demonocles   12 years ago

      People who won the lottery were stupid enough to cause an explosion? This doesn't fit with my perception of people who play the lottery!

    2. gaijin   12 years ago

      While I totally believe the mentality implied in the story, I'm not sure the physics makes sense...wouldn't that have to be a whole lot of butane?

      1. General Butt Naked   12 years ago

        From lighter cans of butane?

        Nope, it's bullshit. There's no way the concentrations would get high enough to actually blow something up. Someone's watched too many movies.

  20. Lord Humungus   12 years ago

    Postal Service to launch new clothing line in 2014
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/.....ingtonpost

    First the end of Saturday mail, now a new clothing line. The U.S. Postal Service is taking unprecedented steps to make itself relevant and profitable these days. The cash-strapped agency announced plans on Tuesday to launch a new line of all-weather apparel and accessories sometime next year.

    Move over, upscale North Face. Or should it be the grittier Carhartt brand that worries?

    The Postal Service chose "Rain Heat & Snow" as its own brand name, alluding to its unofficial motto: "Neither snow nor rain nor heat nor gloom of night stay these couriers from the swift completion of their appointed rounds."

    Only men's apparel and accessories will be available initially, but the agency plans to add a women's line in the future, it said Tuesday.

    1. Jam   12 years ago

      just the simple fact the postal service was written into the constitution tells you it was a power grab from the articles of confederation.

      1. Tulpa (LAOL-PA)   12 years ago

        You realize that states had official churches and charged tariffs on each other's products during the Articles era.

        1. Jam   12 years ago

          a typical free trade argument made for the constitution which is BS, it's like now giving the UN all control asking for global free trade in return.

          1. Zeb   12 years ago

            Government is government. How is state power any more legitimate than federal?

    2. generic Brand   12 years ago

      Only men's apparel and accessories will be available initially, but the agency plans to add a women's line in the future, it said Tuesday.

      That's RACIIISST!!! against women.

    3. gaijin   12 years ago

      I look forward to the first story of someone impersonating a postal service employee.

      1. Ted S.   12 years ago

        Why would anybody want to impersonate a postal service employee?

        (Well, other than Rule 34, of course.)

        1. gaijin   12 years ago

          Why would anybody want to impersonate a postal service employee?

          Hello Ms. Robinson...I have a package for you. Here, let me bring it inside.

        2. $park?   12 years ago

          Hello miss, I'm here to deliver a package.

          1. sloopyinca   12 years ago

            You can imagine where it goes from here.

            1. Tulpa (LAOL-PA)   12 years ago

              He delivers the package?

              1. sloopyinca   12 years ago

                Don't be fatuous, Tulpington.

            2. mr simple   12 years ago

              She signs for the delivery?

  21. Lord Humungus   12 years ago

    25 Cereals From The '80s You Will Never Eat Again
    http://www.buzzfeed.com/briang.....-eat-again

    1. Pac-Man Cereal
    2. Rainbow Brite Cereal
    3. Gremlins Cereal
    4. Nintendo Cereal System
    5. Mr. T Cereal

    etc tec

    1. sarcasmic   12 years ago

      I pity the fool who don't eat my cereal!

      1. mad libertarian guy   12 years ago

        That line still cracks me up after all these years.

      2. H. Reardon   12 years ago

        One of my fav movies. Watched it with the youngins last month.

    2. Matrix   12 years ago

      I remember the Nintendo cereal. I had some before. Cheap, sugary, and probably disgusting by my tastes today.

    3. Ted S.   12 years ago

      Is that all on one page, or is it a fucking slideshow list?

      1. Lord Humungus   12 years ago

        one page - at least for my scriptblocking, adblocking Firefox.

  22. Longtorso   12 years ago

    To Tony and Shrike, since you keep bringing up Countrywide as a non-govt fuckup, behold:
    "Countrywide can potentially help you meet your CRA goals by offering both whole loan and mortgage-backed securities that are eligible for CRA credit," the lender advertised to banks....

    ...According to Cato's Mark Calabria, by "2005, one out of every four loans purchased by Fannie Mae was from Countrywide" and "one of out every 10 for Freddie Mac was also from Countrywide", the end result being that "close to 90 percent of Countrywide's loan originations were bought or guaranteed by some arm of the federal government"...

    ...Because the growth and success of Countrywide was tied directly to Fannie Mae's continued hunger for acquiring and holding loans and Wall Street's continued investment in mortgage-backed securities composed of subprime mortgages, Countrywide CEO Angelo Mozilo offered a key group of VIPs preferential treatment through a special loan division. Countrywide gave preferential treatment to legislators, Congressional staff, cabinet members, Fannie Mae executives, lobbyists, and others well connected in Washington. Countrywide also gave preferential treatment to business partners, local politicians, homebuilders, entertainers and law enforcement officials....

    1. Longtorso   12 years ago

      ...The number of loans to borrowers who worked at Fannie Mae spiked at two points during the lifetime of Countryside's VIP program. The first spike came in 1998, as Countrywide was negotiating a volume discount with Fannie Mae, the second spike came in 2001-03, on the leading edge of a "mortgage boom that occurred from late 2002 through 2004" and an expansion of the VIP loan unit....

      ...Countrywide marketed its loans directly to banks as a way for them to meet CRA obligations. "The result of these efforts is an enormous pipeline of mortgages to low- and moderate-income buyers. With this pipeline, Countrywide Securities Corporation (CSC) can potentially help you meet your Community Reinvestment Act (CRA) goals by offering both whole loan and mortgage-backed securities that are eligible for CRA credit," a Countrywide advertisement on its website read....

      1. Palin's Buttplug   12 years ago

        And I keep telling you Lehman, Merrill, and Bear were not commercial banks and had no CRA requirements. You keep bringing up straw man arguments. We know that Fannie Mae failed.

        But this was Wall Street investment banks at the center of the financial crisis and you cannot offer a single plausible scenario as to why the government caused them to fail en masse.

        The truth is that they over-levered and failed in their risk analysis while buying into the canard that home prices only rise.

        1. T   12 years ago

          There was an implicit guarantee that the government would bail people out. The implicit guarantee became explicit after Bear. They let Bear fail to encourage the rest, and it didn't fucking work. When you know you'll get backstopped by the largest financial entity on the fucking planet, why sweat risk analysis and leverage ratios?

        2. Don Mynack   12 years ago

          'In early 2005, largely at the behest of the banking sector, the Office of Thrift Supervision implemented new rules that were widely perceived as weakening the CRA. Supervision of banks with under $1 billion in assets was loosened, and larger banks were allowed to voluntarily reduce the amount of regulator scrutiny of their "investment" and "service"-two long-standing categories of assessment under the CRA."

          See, you are both right.

    2. LTC(ret) John   12 years ago

      You think they will respond? They have dumped yesterdays painful lesson from memory and will march on in invincible ignorance.

      1. Palin's Buttplug   12 years ago

        Wrong again, you dittohead.

        1. LTC(ret) John   12 years ago

          Again with the weird Rush L fixation - I am aware of who he is, but I have not, do not and will not listen to him. Even if I wanted to, I work in a #$%*ing office tower that you cannot get AM signal in - if I could, it would be on WSCR 670 or maybe WBBM 780.

          You are either too lazy or too stupid to change your talking point/perceived insult. Maybe both.

          1. Tulpa (LAOL-PA)   12 years ago

            You can't stream WLS?

            1. LTC(ret) John   12 years ago

              No streaming at work - eats bandwidth alive. Plus, WGN? Am I what, 70 years old? Only when they have the Blackhawks game on.

              1. Tulpa (LAOL-PA)   12 years ago

                Oh I thought he was on WLS. But that was 20 years ago when I lived in IL.

                1. LTC(ret) John   12 years ago

                  He is on LS, I misread as GN. I will only listen to Roe Conn on LS, on the way home from work.

  23. mad libertarian guy   12 years ago

    Joe Biden's advice to gun owners is to get a double barrel shotgun for self-defense. Is that what law enforcement is limited to?

    Because defending your home and family is just like shooting at pheasants and quail. It's totally feasible to use a shotgun with a 28" barrel in the cramped confines of a house.

    Actually, Mr. Biden, it's nothing like that at all. Some of us actually plan and think about how to best defend our homes, and in very few cases is a double barrel bird gun the right answer.

    1. Ted S.   12 years ago

      It's totally feasible to use a shotgun with a 28" barrel in the cramped confines of a house.

      It means your assailant won't get within 28 inches of you. 😐

    2. R C Dean   12 years ago

      I totally read that as "shooting at peasants". Which, since this is Drunken Uncle Joe doing the talking, isn't out of the question.

    3. WTF   12 years ago

      Excellent write-up. I will be using that on my lefty friends.

      1. mad libertarian guy   12 years ago

        Much appreshitated.

  24. Rich   12 years ago

    *3* drug tests to get a license

    Women and minorities hardest hit.

    Looking forward to the day you have to breathe into a tube *and* piss into a tube in order to start your car.

    1. Ted S.   12 years ago

      I presume these laws won't apply to cops?

    2. Way Of The Crane   12 years ago

      It won't be long.

  25. invisible furry hand   12 years ago

    Stuck for a comment to make on the Guardian website?

    No problem. Just try one of these random comments and you'll be sure to impress the self?proclaimed who's who of the left?wing internet intelligentsia.

  26. Lord Humungus   12 years ago

    President Armageddon
    The Washington Monument ploy and other Obama gambits.
    http://online.wsj.com/article/.....on_LEADTop

    President Obama returned from a long weekend with his golfing buddies on Tuesday to take up his by now familiar political stand: If Republicans don't raise taxes in return for more spending, the world will end. We wish he'd stayed on the putting green.

    Flanked by emergency medical personnel, Mr. Obama made his usual threat of Armageddon if automatic spending cuts go forward on March 1. Americans can expect more such melodrama in the coming days, so as a public service we thought we'd break down the President's three biggest political tricks...

  27. Kaptious Kristen   12 years ago

    So who here knows about bow fishing? I'm thinking of shooting some snakeheads in the spring and need to outfit myself. I had compound bows and cross bows, BTW.

    1. LTC(ret) John   12 years ago

      I prefer dynamite fishing. But I would go crossbow, were I bow hunting. Stable platform, all the better to aim with and take your time, lining the shot up.

      1. Kaptious Kristen   12 years ago

        Nope, no crossbows. I wanna be like Diana, Goddess of the Hunt (and I just like shooting a regular bow better)

        1. LTC(ret) John   12 years ago

          Then you are a better hunter than I! More power to you. Does that mean you dress in silver and a filmy little out fit and run through the woods looking for quarry?

          1. Kaptious Kristen   12 years ago

            Errr....yeah. That's the ticket! 🙂

            (I can't shoot a furry animal. Fish are the only animals that I have the mental capacity to kill)

            1. invisible furry hand   12 years ago

              I can't shoot a furry animal

              Phew!

              1. LTC(ret) John   12 years ago

                HA! Nicely played.

                For various reasons, I cannot draw a bead on an animal anymore. Fish, I will continue to catch and keep if they are large and tasty.

        2. generic Brand   12 years ago

          I wanna be like Diana, Goddess of the Hunt

          Please don't cut off your breast.

      2. gaijin   12 years ago

        If you dropped your dynamite from a radio controlled helicopter you could pretend you were a drone operator...and the fish were terrorists.

    2. DJF   12 years ago

      Doubt if its legal these days but get a Greener Harpoon gun, plus its great for home defense.

      http://www.cowanauctions.com/a.....emid=30156

      1. Kaptious Kristen   12 years ago

        BOW fishing. Bow.

        1. DJF   12 years ago

          Your no fun 🙂

          1. Ted S.   12 years ago

            Her no fun what?

            1. DJF   12 years ago

              She did not want a Greener Harpoon gun.

    3. Jordan   12 years ago

      That's a thing? Holy shit, that sounds fun. I might look into it...

      1. Kaptious Kristen   12 years ago

        Yep - they make reels and line and arrows specifically for bow fishing.

    4. Drax the Destroyer   12 years ago

      I had compound bows and cross bows, BTW.

      You sure you aren't here to make the men of these here parts worship the turf you trod?

      1. Kaptious Kristen   12 years ago

        OOps - HATE compound and cross bows. Eep.

        1. H. Reardon   12 years ago

          Ted S. missed one!

    5. T   12 years ago

      Seems complicated. I use bathtub Semtex. Way easier, and you just scoop 'em right up.

    6. Ted S.   12 years ago

      If you're a woman, shouldn't you be doing curtsey fishing and not bow fishing?

      1. Kaptious Kristen   12 years ago

        Totally. That's why I plan to dress up as a boy and deepen my voice - otherwise the fishing guide would refuse to take me out!

        1. SugarFree   12 years ago

          MAH NAME IS KRI-KARL. TAKE ME BOW FISHIN'! [cloud of Axe body spray]

    7. Zombie Jimbo   12 years ago

      It's off the bow topic, but a nice snakehead article. Haven't caught any yet, I was too far down river on the Potomac, and we don't have them where I normally fish in PA. Yet.

      1. Zombie Jimbo   12 years ago

        Skipped the link entirely:

        http://www.tbd.com/articles/20.....60173.html

        1. Kaptious Kristen   12 years ago

          Steve is the guy who is going to take me and the squeeze out bow fishing, He's my boss's husband.

    8. Way Of The Crane   12 years ago

      I prefer a Mongolian recurved bow myself but then again I've never tried bow fishing with it.

      1. LTC(ret) John   12 years ago

        Wouldn't that be hard from horseback?

        1. db   12 years ago

          Seahorseback fishing.

        2. T   12 years ago

          Not if the horse is in the water. Duh.

        3. Tejicano   12 years ago

          Most of the Mongolians I know have upgraded to SKS's.

      2. Kaptious Kristen   12 years ago

        Nice!

  28. Lord Humungus   12 years ago

    Obama's Pre-School Plan Fails When Parents Fail
    http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/.....aspx#page1

    The influence of a child's home life is immeasurable and likely more determining than early education. That's likely one reason that Head Start and other programs have been so ineffective. It is also a reason to be skeptical of President Obama's call for universal pre-school.

    1. Drax the Destroyer   12 years ago

      Obama's Pre-School Plan Fails When Parents Fail

      FTFY

  29. Lord Humungus   12 years ago

    John Boehner: The President Is Raging Against a Budget Crisis He Created
    Obama invented the 'sequester' in the summer of 2011 to avoid facing up to America's spending problem.
    http://online.wsj.com/article/.....on_LEADTop

    A week from now, a dramatic new federal policy is set to go into effect that threatens U.S. national security, thousands of jobs and more. In a bit of irony, President Obama stood Tuesday with first responders who could lose their jobs if the policy goes into effect. Most Americans are just hearing about this Washington creation for the first time: the sequester. What they might not realize from Mr. Obama's statements is that it is a product of the president's own failed leadership.

    The sequester is a wave of deep spending cuts scheduled to hit on March 1. Unless Congress acts, $85 billion in across-the-board cuts will occur this year, with another $1.1 trillion coming over the next decade. There is nothing wrong with cutting spending that much?we should be cutting even more?but the sequester is an ugly and dangerous way to do it.

    1. Palin's Buttplug   12 years ago

      And when the House passed it Boehner said "I got 98% of what I wanted".

      1. Citizen Nothing   12 years ago

        It's Bush's fault!

      2. Way Of The Crane   12 years ago

        And still the President signed it.

        1. LTC(ret) John   12 years ago

          C'mon, its not like the President had any ability to not sign something he didn't approve of - its right there in the Constitution, in the Must Sign and Necessary Clause.

      3. sloopyinca   12 years ago

        I heard Bob Woodward on the radio yesterday explaining that the White House proposed it and Obama was thrilled that the House included it in the bill. Bob fucking Woodward.

        When a Team Blue pol has lost Bob Woodward the jig is up. And if Team Red had any brains (ha!) they'd be hammering away that point.

        Well that point as well as trotting out a plan for where the cuts could easily come from instead of cutting out so-called essential services.

        1. Tulpa (LAOL-PA)   12 years ago

          Looks like Boner is hammering away at it. Good luck getting this angle covered in the MSM though.

      4. db   12 years ago

        You're keeping in step
        And in line
        Got your chin held high
        and you feel just fine
        'Cause you do what you're told
        But inside your heart it is black
        It is hollow
        it is cold

    2. Jerryskids   12 years ago

      Sad to see the WSJ puking out this kind of crap.

      Most Americans are just hearing about this Washington creation for the first time Yeah, most Americans don't care enough to pay attention. (I like to think that at least some do so because they know it's all just lies and BS not worth paying attention to. Like the idea of the sequester.)

      The sequester is a wave of deep spending cuts No, it isn't.

      Unless Congress acts You can paint any disastrous scenario you want by preceding it with the words "unless the sun rises tomorrow". Are you seriously talking about the possibility of the Feds being stymied in an effort to spend more money?

      The debt-ceiling crisis was all political theater, Simpson-Bowles was all political theater, the sequester is all political theater. You wanna know how the story ends? SPOILER ALERT: They arrive at a bipartisan balanced compromise and agree to increase both taxes and spending.

  30. PS   12 years ago

    In New Mexico, state employees can collect worker's comp even if they were injured while drunk or high on the job.

    In stimulus terms those are jobs saved.

  31. DJF   12 years ago

    """"The execution of the mentally retarded Warren Hill ""

    They leave out the fact that Hill was already given a life sentence for murder of this girl friend when he then murdered in prison the inmate in the same cell with a board with nails in it so by not executing him they are saying the second murder has no punishment.

    1. LTC(ret) John   12 years ago

      That might interfere with the narrative.

      1. Virginian   12 years ago

        Seriously. Mentally retarded in this case is not some happy helmet wearing Special Olympian who wound up on death row. He's just a dumb murderous brute.

        1. Eduard van Haalen   12 years ago

          And my understanding - correct me if I'm wrong - is that most retarded people *don't* commit murder. So the ones who do made choices most don't.

    2. Drax the Destroyer   12 years ago

      Well, he did kill another prisoner who (by the State's logic) wasn't a person anymore anyway. The same will be said when pregnant women are blown into showers of gore by "malfunctioning" drones.

    3. thom   12 years ago

      It sounds like the state did a poor job of incarcerating this individual who they already knew to be dangerous.

      When the state locks somebody in one of their prisons, whether legitimately, as in this case, or illegitimately, as happens too often, the state then takes responsibility for that persons life and actions.

      Poor prison management doesn't legitimize state sanctioned murder.

      1. DJF   12 years ago

        So the State should have kept him in solitary confinement for his entire life? Or in a straight jacket or so drugged up he can't do anything? The same lawyers who are suing now would sue the hell out of the State for that.

        Personally I think the State should not get involved, any murder would be declared to be an "out law" and so outside of any laws protecting them and so could be hunted down by the victims relatives or friends.

        1. Auric Demonocles   12 years ago

          Who declares the person outside of the law?

        2. Drax the Destroyer   12 years ago

          I am a fan of the Viking Justice you have proposed. There would be an issue, unfortunately, if the bastard was cunning enough to fight off and kill the murdered's friends and family...but I'm sure there are ways around that. I think part of the solution would be in ostracization so if the murderer tried to "integrate" back into society by robbing someone for medical supplies, he could be shot by a random private citizen for defending his property. But currently that's all illegal and exploring routes of such justice would land most people in Butt-Rape penitentiary.

          1. R C Dean   12 years ago

            if the bastard was cunning enough to fight off and kill the murdered's friends and family

            The more people he kills, the bigger the mob trying to hunt him down.

            1. Dr. Frankenstein   12 years ago

              Addition by subtraction?

        3. Tulpa (LAOL-PA)   12 years ago

          Personally I think the State should not get involved, any murder would be declared to be an "out law" and so outside of any laws protecting them and so could be hunted down by the victims relatives or friends.

          Declared by whom to be an outlaw? After what process? Talk about begging the question. How is the identity of the murderer established? How is his guilt established?

          It's interesting that you guys argue against cap pun because we can never be sure the person was actually guilty, even with the numerous safeguards in our system preventing innocent people from being executed; and then turn around and favor allowing the relatives to go out and kill someone based on mere suspicion of murder. It almost seems as if you're more concerned about shrinking the state rather than making sure innocents don't get killed.

          1. thom   12 years ago

            I don't argue against capital punishment because of the uncertainty of guilt, but because it's wrong for the state to kill people when they are able to hold that person alive and render them harmless.

        4. Stormy Dragon   12 years ago

          So your model for how society should function is inner city gang wars?

    4. gaijin   12 years ago

      The state is not competent to carry out death sentences.

      1. Night Elf Mohawk   12 years ago

        Apparently Warren Hill is.

  32. The Late P Brooks   12 years ago

    I guess I'm moving to New Mexico now.

    Will you be destroying things at Sandia?

    Because that would be cool.

    1. Drax the Destroyer   12 years ago

      I will probably get into the Meth...coughh..cough...I mean chicken business. Yeah. That's what I meant.

  33. AlmightyJB   12 years ago

    Obviously you have to consider the source but a not so flattering look at legal prostitution in Amsterdam.

    http://www.spectator.co.uk/fea.....-for-sale/

    1. mad libertarian guy   12 years ago

      I've been to the Red Light District. There are plenty of unflattering prostitutes there, but most were good enough looking.

      1. Eduard van Haalen   12 years ago

        "I'm sure you want Ingrid, but Bertha here has seniority."

        When will they stop me from recycling that joke?

    2. Jam   12 years ago

      50 Euro for a suck and fuck?

      the old story of exploitation which is BS. the one i recently talked to worked only 2 days a week. and these girls live a better life than in some eastern world shack.

      I only paid 40 for the suck.

  34. Matrix   12 years ago

    Should you be able to use Google to find a lawyer while under arrest

    Yes

  35. The Late P Brooks   12 years ago

    Somebody (or multiple somebodies) apparently engaged in a little frontrunning on Kindly Old Grandpa Buffett's Heinz deal. What a shocker.

    1. Ted S.   12 years ago

      Was there supposed to be a link accompanying this?

  36. Juice   12 years ago

    http://blogs.reuters.com/great.....king-laws/

    Unions seek exemption from anti-stalking laws

  37. AuH2O   12 years ago

    Important Things About America Learned on New Girl:

    "Does it say 'Share Stuff' in the Constitution of America? No, it does not. Nicholas, what does it say?"

    "'Don't Share Stuff'"

    1. generic Brand   12 years ago

      Is there a link for this or did you just watch New Girl yesterday? Also, cue John to comment on how cute and likeable Zooey Deschanel is.

      1. AuH2O   12 years ago

        There's this new website called Hulu. You should check it out, grandpa!

        1. SugarFree   12 years ago

          "I NEED A CONDOM! FOR MY PENIS!"

      2. Killazontherun   12 years ago

        Does nothing for me except annoy. Trailers for that show are even annoying with the mute button on. Can't wait for the cancellation.

  38. Matrix   12 years ago

    More than 250 drug cases have been thrown out in Philadelphia because six former narcotics officers were found to be liars. They no longer work in narcotics but, naturally, are still on the force

    Perjury... how does it work?

    1. Zombie Jimbo   12 years ago

      Perjury works very well in Philadelphia, always has.

  39. Mr Whipple   12 years ago

    Go on TV and cry like a little girl about how the big, bad, evil republicans won't let him do anything. I am no lover of the republican party, but Obama is making himself look like the PUNK...ASS...BITCH that he is.

    1. Matrix   12 years ago

      Don't read the CNN comments sections on sequestration (hell don't read them for anything, for that matter). They are all on Obama's side, saying how it was all the fault of evil Republicans, and things would be sunshine and rainbows if only the Republicans would go away.

  40. sloopyinca   12 years ago

    Florida announces mother of the year nominee.

    1. Ted S.   12 years ago

      What do you have against free-range kids? 😉

      1. Dr. Frankenstein   12 years ago

        I don't. They're quite tasty actually.

  41. The Late P Brooks   12 years ago

    Was there supposed to be a link accompanying this?

    No. but I think you can easily find a story about the SEC and FBI investigating "suspicious" trades if you go to Google Business News.

  42. sarcasmic   12 years ago

    What a supermodel looks like after 12hrs of partying.
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvs.....hours.html

    1. Auric Demonocles   12 years ago

      How does she still have eyebrows like that?

      1. BakedPenguin   12 years ago

        Right? I'm surprised her last name wasn't McPoyle.

    2. Way Of The Crane   12 years ago

      My God, was the camera drunk too? Because she looks wrecked.

      1. Killazontherun   12 years ago

        Wrecked? Yep, I'd say she looks like she had a train on her ass. Followed by a bukkake incident.

    3. Eduard van Haalen   12 years ago

      So she was stumbling down a staircase and the photographer just took her picture? He didn't offer his arm and unobtrusively cop a feel? Chivalry is dead.

    4. Tulpa (LAOL-PA)   12 years ago

      I don't think she's that good looking even in her better moments. She looks mean and annoyed all the time.

    5. SugarFree   12 years ago

      Looked up the "singer" she's with, Rita Ora. Her music turns out to be so terrible it's sure to take America by storm any minute now.

      1. Tulpa (LAOL-PA)   12 years ago

        Light the Randian signal...

    6. Proprietist   12 years ago

      Most overrated model in a long time. Really don't get why the DM or anyone else keeps fawning over her.

  43. sarcasmic   12 years ago

    Three weeks after I signed my it up for the Do Not Call List, I get my first telemarketing call on my cell phone. Weird.

    1. Way Of The Crane   12 years ago

      My theory on the do not call list: Telemarketers use it to find people to call. You cannot report telemarketers who call you until your name has been on the list for a minimum of 31 days. So, for the first month you're on the list, you're fair game and being on the list essentially guarantees that your phone number is a legitimate, working number.

      1. Zeb   12 years ago

        Interesting theory.

        It seemed to work fine for my land line.

  44. The Late P Brooks   12 years ago

    Weird.

    It's a TRAP.

    1. sarcasmic   12 years ago

      It was an automated call for my very last chance in the world to lower my credit card rates to as low as 6.9%! Last chance! Ever! Never again will I be offered this opportunity! Press one to talk with an operator! Now!

    2. LTC(ret) John   12 years ago

      +1 Admiral Akbar

  45. sloopyinca   12 years ago

    Porn fans everywhere rejoice that Ron Jeremy recovering nicely after surgery.

    Looks like the Hedgehog will be back on the air soon.

    1. Hyperion   12 years ago

      All 3 people, that have watched mainstream pay for porn, since 1992, are jumping for joy!

  46. CampingInYourPark   12 years ago

    "US tyre boss mocks 'crazy' French unions"

    "'How stupid do you think we are?' Titan Chief Executive Maurice Taylor asked French Minister for Industrial Renewal Arnaud Montebourg in a letter published by French business daily Les Echos [in French and English].

    'I have visited that factory a couple of times. The French workforce gets paid high wages but only works for three hours.'

    A Titan commercial shows its CEO Maurice Taylor expressing his opinion of the French.

    'They get one hour for breaks and lunch, they talk for three and they work for three. I told this to the French union workers to their faces. They told me that's the French way!'"

    http://www.france24.com/en/201.....ory-unions

    1. robc   12 years ago

      Which is worse, that the Brits spell tire with a y or that we never fixed the spelling of pyre?

      1. SugarFree   12 years ago

        Pyre has a pleasing old-school feel to it for a thing that rarely happens any longer. Tyre sounds like a greeter at a Medieval Times restaurant.

        1. Hyperion   12 years ago

          Moar mead, serving wench!

    2. Joe M   12 years ago

      Another link to the same story: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/fin.....g-day.html

      My favorite part is this:

      Mr Taylor's incendiary comments have drawn fury from French unions. Mickael Wamen, a representative for the major CGT union at the Goodyear factory, said they showed the Titan boss "belongs more in an insane asylum than at the head of a multinational corporation", and threatened to file legal action in the US against Goodyear and Titan over the closure of the plant.

      Just amazing. The union response is, of course, to get the government to pound on the private company. And not just Goodyear for closing the factory (which I'm honestly shocked they're even able to do, after the recent stuff that's posted around here about insane French labor laws), but Titan for not taking over! You can take someone to court for not buying a POS money-losing factory in another country than where they are based? WTF planet is that possible on?

    3. Brett L   12 years ago

      "'How stupid do you think we are?' Titan Chief Executive Maurice Taylor asked French Minister for Industrial Renewal Arnaud Montebourg

      He's French, you're American. The answer is: boundlessly.

    4. Loki   12 years ago

      This may be appropriate here:

      http://www.luceperformancegrou....._photo.htm

  47. The Late P Brooks   12 years ago

    It almost seems as if you're more concerned about shrinking the state rather than making sure innocents don't get killed.

    Considering how incredibly effective the state is at "making sure innocents don't get killed" I'm not sure a system based on blood feuds could be that much worse.

    1. Tulpa (LAOL-PA)   12 years ago

      There's no evidence that any innocent person has ever been judicially executed in the United States in modern times. Maybe there are a few who we just don't have evidence for, but blood feuds would do far worse.

      1. sarcasmic   12 years ago

        Carlos DeLuna? Cameron Todd Willingham? Barry Lee Fairchild?

        1. Tulpa (LAOL-PA)   12 years ago

          Willingham is probably true. The other two, not so much.

      2. LTC(ret) John   12 years ago

        I suggest you stay far, far away from the Innocence Project @ Northwestern University.

        1. Tulpa (LAOL-PA)   12 years ago

          I do. You have a link to their evidence of innocents executed, not just litanies of names that the cosmos and lefties can nod their heads to?

      3. T   12 years ago

        I find it difficult to believe, living where I do, that the state hasn't fucked up and killed the wrong guy or killed him for the wrong offense. The Willingham case comes to mind immediately.

        1. Tulpa (LAOL-PA)   12 years ago

          Like I said, there may be a few cases where an innocent has been judicially executed. That number pales in comparison to the innocents killed in our various wars, and certainly pales in comparison to deaths in the blood feuds that some here want to bring back.

          1. sarcasmic   12 years ago

            Goal posts have been moved, straw man has been torched, thread has been Tulpafied.

            1. Citizen Nothing   12 years ago

              Needz moar pentobarbitolz.

            2. Tulpa (LAOL-PA)   12 years ago

              Wow, sarc, you really are a little shit. Every time you lose an argument you claim bad faith (without evidence thereof).

              1. sarcasmic   12 years ago

                various wars = moving goal posts

                blood feuds = straw man

                you = retard

                I fart in your general direction

                1. Tulpa (LAOL-PA)   12 years ago

                  The war comment would be a red herring, not a goalpost move, if you wanted to argue bad faith.

                  You (and others) continue not to understand that it's not a straw man when you're responding to an argument someone else just posted.

                  1. sarcasmic   12 years ago

                    *phhhht*

            3. LTC(ret) John   12 years ago

              "There's no evidence that any innocent person has ever been judicially executed in the United States in modern times."

              Oh, those goalposts?

              Cripes Tulpa, get a grip.

          2. T   12 years ago

            10:46 There's no evidence that any innocent person has ever been judicially executed in the United States in modern times.

            11:17 Like I said, there may be a few cases where an innocent has been judicially executed.

            31 minutes. Not bad for complete reversal, but you can be faster next time.

            WTF does the number of innocents killed in wars have to do with this, BTW?

            1. Tulpa (LAOL-PA)   12 years ago

              Nice snipping job, T. Works better when the original comment is hard to find.

              Tulpa (LAOL-PA)| 2.20.13 @ 10:46AM

              There's no evidence that any innocent person has ever been judicially executed in the United States in modern times. Maybe there are a few who we just don't have evidence for, but blood feuds would do far worse.

    2. Hyperion   12 years ago

      Considering how incredibly effective the state is at "making sure innocents don't get killed

      Stupid overly aggressive cops. Nuff said.

  48. The Late P Brooks   12 years ago

    Jose Guerena?

    Kathryn Johnston?

    1. Tulpa (LAOL-PA)   12 years ago

      Which have nothing to do with capital punishment.

  49. The Late P Brooks   12 years ago

    Trailers for that show are even annoying with the mute button on. Can't wait for the cancellation.

    Are we talking about Portlandia now? Because I refuse to watch anything on whatever channel that is, just because of the incessant ads for that fucking moronfest.

  50. Loki   12 years ago

    Idocracy looms. It's Mike Judge's world, we're just living in it.

    1. Loki   12 years ago

      Apologies for posting this link. I should have read the entire article first (perhaps I'm actually getting dumber). After the first few paragraphs they go full retard (kind of ironic). Flouride in the water!!!!11 Pesticides ZOMFG!!!!11!!! PROCESSED FOODS AND HIGH FRUCTOSE CORN SYRUP!!!!1!!1eleventy gazillion! And whatever you do, don't read the comments. GMOOOOOOOSSSSSSSSS!!!!11!!!!

  51. Raston Bot   12 years ago

    Currently reading Shogun. I highly recommend it. Intrigue, politics, religion, adventure, torture, samurai, geishas!

    1. Brett L   12 years ago

      Yeah. They're all good. I'd say Gai-jin is the least interesting. Feel free to skip it.

      1. gaijin   12 years ago

        I'd say Gai-jin is the least interesting.

        1. gaijin   12 years ago

          hey now!

  52. The Late P Brooks   12 years ago

    Which have nothing to do with capital punishment.

    They're dead, aren't they? At the hands of government agents who remain free.

  53. The Late P Brooks   12 years ago

    David Turner.

  54. The Late P Brooks   12 years ago

    Kelly Thomas.

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