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Civil Liberties

Brickbat: Better Safe Than Sorry

Charles Oliver | 2.5.2013 6:00 AM

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Officials locked down a Bronx, New York, school for an hour and had police search it after a campus aide reported hearing a 12-year-old student say something to another about a gun. After questioning the boy, they found he was talking about a Nerf gun, which was at his home.

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  1. invisible furry hand   12 years ago

    they found he was talking about a Nerf gun, which was at his home.

    So they went to his home and shot his dog?

    1. XTSee   12 years ago

      Yes, of course. How did you know that?

  2. Fist of Etiquette   12 years ago

    When in lockdown, is there teaching going on? Because if not, the one valuable thing the kids could learn from that school is to talk about Nerf guns when the teacher has a quiz at the ready.

  3. waaminn   12 years ago

    Sounds like a prettty cool story to me bro.
    http://www.ImAnon.tk

    1. Fist of Etiquette   12 years ago

      Were you listening to The Dude's story, waaminn?

      1. invisible furry hand   12 years ago

        Hell, I can get you a toe by 3 o'clock this afternoon... with nail polish. These fucking amateurs...

  4. Reverendcaptain   12 years ago

    I'm waiting for the first kid who wears a picture of Obama with a shotgun. In fact, I wish an entire class would take it upon themselves to wear said t-shirts en mass. But do it a day after one of them wears one with another person holding a gun and is sent home. And call the local TV stations. Then watch the school do nothing and ask why.

    1. 21044   12 years ago

      For the first time in 39 years, you made me wish I were in high school again.

      1. some guy   12 years ago

        If only I knew then what I know now...

    2. Brandybuck   12 years ago

      Funny. Years and years ago I substitute taught in a high school English class for a day. This was the day after a student was sent home for wearing Black Sabbath teeshirt. The reason he was sent home was because the pentacle was a religious symbol. The day I was there half the class was wearing black Christian teeshirts with crosses on them. I told the class that they had renewed my hope in the future generation.

  5. mr lizard   12 years ago

    With nerf guns like that we will never defeat the scourge of Tactikool.

    1. Almanian.   12 years ago

      I bet he's got GrrrAnimals Digital Camo matching underwear, too.

  6. JW   12 years ago

    Officials locked down a Bronx, New York, school for an hour and had police search it after a *campus aide* reported hearing a 12-year-old student say something to another about a gun.

    In my day, we called them janitors.

    1. invisible furry hand   12 years ago

      Please poppa, tell me more about the olden days. Did you really play free in parks until sundown?

      1. Almanian.   12 years ago

        It was a wild time. A WILD time. Free range kids roaming the parks like the old west - gangs of soulless gingers taking juice boxes from scred little girls, roving loners stealing marbles from the weak, all kind of kids rubbing dirt on open wounds to "make it better"....

        But we've been saved by Our Overlords (PBUH), who have banned everything. PRAISE GODVERNMENT!

        1. Way Of The Crane   12 years ago

          PRAISE GODVERNMENT!

          I see what you did there.

      2. Almanian.   12 years ago

        It was a wild time. A WILD time. Free range kids roaming the parks like the old west - gangs of soulless gingers taking juice boxes from scred little girls, roving loners stealing marbles from the weak, all kind of kids rubbing dirt on open wounds to "make it better"....

        But we've been saved by Our Overlords (PBUH), who have banned everything. PRAISE GODVERNMENT!

        1. Way Of The Crane   12 years ago

          PRAISE GODVERNMENT!

          And there.

        2. Brandybuck   12 years ago

          You can say that again!

      3. sarcasmic   12 years ago

        Back when I was a boy, children would ride bicycles without helmets and the cops didn't give them tickets! Can you imagine?

        We could walk around with a BB gun and the cops wouldn't hassle us! Can you imagine?

        We could play outside and the cops wouldn't hassle us! Can you imagine?

        Children were actually allowed to be children! Can you imagine?

        1. Way Of The Crane   12 years ago

          We could walk around with a BB gun and the cops wouldn't hassle shoot us! Can you imagine?

          FTFY

        2. some guy   12 years ago

          We could play around on construction sites and empty lots... and cops wouldn't hassle us!

          We could make rubber band "guns" at school and cops wouldn't hassle us!

          We could super heat the tip of a ballpoint pen and stick it on some other kid's neck... and the cops wouldn't hassle us! (I haven't heard of a kid getting in trouble for this one. Do kids still do this?)

          1. sarcasmic   12 years ago

            We used to make water weenies. That was fun. These days I imagine a kid would get arrested for that.

            1. Way Of The Crane   12 years ago

              If you have pictures, I'm pretty sure that counts as child pornography.

          2. sarcasmic   12 years ago

            I still have a couple grey marks in my knee where the principal's son stabbed me with a pencil. I imagine he still has a grey mark in his sternum where I stabbed him back. These days I would have been charged with attempted murder.

        3. Brandybuck   12 years ago

          When I was a kid we used to ride our bikes as fast as we could. One day I was riding my bike as fast as I could, on the road next to the curb, when I hit the rain gutter. The front wheel went down in the gutter and the bike flipped. I flew through the air *over* a car and face planted into the asphalt.

          I then picked myself up, picked up my bike, and rode home. Whereupon my mother yelled at me for ripping my shirt.

          1. Almanian.   12 years ago

            That is fucking AWESOME!

            You rock, Brandybuck!

      4. some guy   12 years ago

        We played "until the street lights came on". Then we had 5 minutes to get home. Otherwise we got a paddlin'.

        Nowadays we would have been either kidnapped or sent to a foster home by the age of 8.

        1. Mensan   12 years ago

          Hell, we stayed out well past when the streetlight (singular) came on.

  7. Bee Tagger   12 years ago

    after a campus aide reported hearing a 12-year-old student say something

    If all it takes for lockdown is hearing someone else say something about a gun, I have to imagine this event will propel them into a neverending loop of lockdowns as staff hear other people talk about the reason for the lockdown.

    1. Almanian.   12 years ago

      I had to explain this to our local union eejits again the other day when we had a little "behavioral incident".

      Why didn't we call the cops!? Why didn't we dump the building?!?! We have to go tell all the employees that...nothing has happened, but we responded!!!

      "It's like bomb threats. You know what you NEVER do when you get a bomb threat? You never dump the building unless your sure it's a credible threat. Y'know why? Cause 99.999999etc.% of bomb threats are phony, and if we respond to them as you suggest, we'll get a bomb-threat call every day. From our employees...."

      1. EDG reppin' LBC   12 years ago

        Who calls in a bomb threat? I mean, if someone was serious about blowing up your factory, why would they alert the factory? Alerting the factory to the presence of a bomb is going to result in bomb detection, and probable disposal. Wouldn't the bomber want to go about business as quietly as possible? Bomb threats are straight up retarded, yo!

      2. Geoff Nathan   12 years ago

        One year while I was teaching a class that had a window facing the front of the building there were bomb threats called in every Friday at 1 PM. I suspect some other class in the building had a quiz each Friday. In any case, we could see the cops coming up to the building and then they escorted us out.
        After the third time we reconvened in the cafeteria the Student Center around a large table. It was annoying not to have a blackboard, but at least we completed the class.

  8. Almanian.   12 years ago

    NERFS ARE GATEWAY GUNZ!!!!

    1. mattcid   12 years ago

      That's why dads like them so much! Early training for kids too young to plink. My boys' favorite is the battery powered .50 cal.

  9. Rich   12 years ago

    they closed down campus, as heavily armed police swarmed PS 4 to search for that student. ... A school official made an announcement to parents outside saying : "... School will resume as normal".

    "Now, children, this is what adults call a 'teachable moment'. So, without using the word 'gun', please write a two-page essay on what you just learned from this."

    1. R C Dean   12 years ago

      heavily armed police swarmed PS 4

      No risk of anything going wrong there.

  10. sarcasmic   12 years ago

    A kid talks about a toy gun and the government sends in troops with fully automatic rifles, ready and willing to perforate a child.

    We're doomed.

    1. Drake   12 years ago

      I couldn't make that shit up. A teacher couldn't ask for some clarification before sending in the storm troopers?

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