A.M. Links: Fiscal Cliff Deal Getting Closer, Obama Asks For Gun Control Ideas, Police Departments Along Texas Border Investigated for Narcotrafficking

• A deal on the fiscal cliff is looking close. President Obama is reportedly offering to raise taxes on only those making more than $400,000 a year. Gotta soak somebody.

• The president has asked his cabinet on ideas for gun control reforms. Dick's Sporting Goods, meanwhile, has suspended the sale of some rifles at its stores, and removed all guns from the store near Newtown, Connecticut.
• Electors nationwide cast their ballots for president, with Barack Obama winning with an expected 126 vote margin.
• A federal investigation into police departments on the Texas border is leading to the arrest of narcotics officers and others for allegedly facilitating the import of drugs from Mexico. But this would never happen with guns.
• China's cracking down on a doomsday cult centered around this Friday, arresting more than a hundred alleged members nationwide.
• NASA crashed its GRAIL lunar crafts into the moon. For science.

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[Fist of Etiquette]

President Obama is reportedly offering to raise taxes on only those making more than $400,000 a year.

Obama's a reasonable man. He's flexible where to put the front line in the war between the classes.

[gaijin]

So $400,000='millionnaire' in left-speak.

[wareagle]

I blame inflation...250K used to be the millionaire standard.

[Bardas Phocas]

That was way back in 2008. Money is worth a lot less now a days.

I blame Bush.

[Fist of Etiquette]

The one percent got bigger.

[Whiterun Guard]

Doesn't the POTUS make $400,000 a year?

I bet that won't get brought up.

[Certified Public Asskicker]

He should have other income to push him over 400k, but yes, It is a very interesting number.

[Rich]

The Pres himself always brings this up.

"Let me be clear. It is, uh, only fair that, uh, well-off people like me and Speaker Boehner should contribute more than blah ...."

[Drake]

Not nearly enough "uh's".

[R C Dean]

Oh, c'mon. Taxes seem to be pretty optional if you're in the White House anyway.

http://www.politico.com/politi.....12412.html

[mad libertarian guy]

Even though it still sucks, it's a pretty major win for Hard Dick. Obama has been pushing for $250k for 5 years now. His lackies in the media have drawn the line there for him as cover for his position, and his cult of followers all believe that anyone who makes $250k is an uber rich, evil 1 percenter. That Swollen Member seems to have been able to circumvent Obama on this and eliminate a huge chunk of people who would otherwise have seen their taxes rise seems like it's better than what we could have reasonably expected, especially considering the "Obama won the election, the people obviously want . . ." narative the legacy media has been pushing.

[Kwanzaa Cake]

Just goes to show how the dems and media have manipulated this thing. The 1% starts at about $380k/year, which is obviously well above $250k.

Anyway, I'd wait before calling it a win. This tax hike is Act 1. The Dems have much more in mind, including a VAT that will soak everyone and I will guarantee they'll be back looking to hike income taxes on the upper middle class, as opposed to the true 1%.

[Drake]

Nope - They will wait until they lose the Senate in 2014 - then they will demand action on the alarming growth of the deficit. By action, they will mean all kinds of new taxes.

Nothing gets the Democrats off harder than getting the Republicans to raise taxes.

[Lord Humungus]

Why Japan is Obsessed with Kentucky Fried Chicken on Christmas
http://blogs.smithsonianmag.co.....-christmas

[Whiterun Guard]

Because the colonel puts an addictive chemical in his chicken that makes ya crave it fortnightly, smartarse!

[Brett L]

You! Boy! Heed!

[Bobarian]

It's like an orange on a toothpick!

[Pi Guy]

Only every 14 days? Fucking chemistry - how does it work?

[Brett L]

You never saw Mike Meyers' one tolerable movie?

[sloopyinca]

Mike Meyers' movies aren't my bag, baby.

[SIV]

Merry KentuckyChristmas!

SoooGood

[generic Brand]

Christmas is the young couple's holiday in Japan. They have a lot of progressive holidays over there, like White Day. It's a month after Valentine's Day and the girls have to treat the boys to something good (of course I have heard of it as "Steak and Blowjob Day" in the states)

[mad libertarian guy]

Steak and blowjob day is the worst idea ever.

If we institute a special day for it, those of us who receive such things with regularity would be fucked. I'm sorry that there are those who need a day to get their lady to help them out, but they can fuck themselves if they think they can ruin the rest of my year.

I can hear it now . . .

Man: Hey baby. Do you think you can see how many licks it takes to get to the gooey center of my tootsie pop?

Woman: Fuck you! It ain't Steak and Blowjob Day, motherfucker.

Fuck all that.

Get your own blowjobs.

[Killazontherun]

^ this. Losers spreading the lame like democrats spreading the wealth.

[Restoras]

Why the hell would anyone eat KFC when you can go to Popeye's?

[Lord Humungus]

I like Church's Chicken - are they still around - in the Chicago area. Very spicy!

[Way Of The Crane]

I like Church's Chicken - are they still around - in the Chicago area. Very spicy!

I'll second that. They still have them all over Florida, but I live in Fairfax, VA now and the closest one to me is a 30-40 minute drive from me.

[Restoras]

Haven't seen that near me but I will be on the lookout.

[sloopyinca]

I go an hour for Church's every now and then. Of course, that was when the nearest Popeye's was two hours away. Since they put one pretty close, I don't bother with the Church's trip.

Shit, that reminds me, I've got to drive to Oakland to fly today. I need to route my trip so I can eat at a Popeye's. If I'm gonna go down on a plane or get shot "resisting" at a TSA checkpoint, I'm gonna have a bellyfull of Popeye's.

Side note: anybody fly in/out of OAK? Do they have metal detectors or am I gonna have to opt out of the rapescanners? Please help as the answer will affect my clothing choice.

[Lord Humungus]

I strongly suggest the metal codpiece.

[sloopyinca]

Of course you would.

No, I'm thinking more along the lines of wearing the tightest jeans I can find and eating a bunch of food so they really have trouble getting into my waistband. I want to be able to ask if they want me to take my pants off in front of the other passengers.

Or, how do they check my waistband if I'm wearing overalls? I've never thought of flying in them, but I've got a pair of Liberty overalls that would be comfy to fly in. Also what's the policy on jumpsuits?

[Brett L]

Commando under the jumpsuit is the way to go.

[DEG]

I've never flown in or out of OAK. Since about September I've noticed every airport I've gone through the stupidity point it's either the porno scanners or a pat down, unless you are elderly, family with small children, or military in uniform.

[Zeb]

I can't. Stop rubbing it in.

[Jersey Patriot]

In other countries, KFC is often pretty good. In KFC Ireland, they fry the chicken in lard or tallow. It's phenomenal.

[mr simple]

FTA:

Though, if you ever find yourself in Japan and not in the mood for fried chicken, Wendy's Japan offers a $16 foie-gras-and-truffle burger.

Wow.

[Drake]

Dammit - I need some KFC now.

[sarcasmic]

Zooey Deschanel's divorce is officially finalized! She's single!
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvs.....split.html

[Whiterun Guard]

If I date her, I'd have to listen to her sing.

No thanks.

[Certified Public Asskicker]

Isn't that why she divorced the Death Cab guy?

[Kaptious Kristen]

And talk. And grin at you impishly and stupidly. And dance around in her quirky jammies. And play the ukelele.

[Whiterun Guard]

I could live with all of that, until you said ukelele. If Gemma Arterton and Demi Lovato said they'd both get busy with me right after their ukelele duet, I'd still have to think long about it.

[Quetzalcoatl]

And you just know she makes artisan mayonnaise.

[mad libertarian guy]

Worse. She buys it.

[Zeb]

I, for one, fully support anything to do with artisan mayonnaise. What doesn't sound awesome about that?

[Lord Humungus]

I will gladly make some with her. As she plays the damn ukelele.

[PS]

I for one don't dig the cutesie-wootesie crap. I've disliked her ever since she fucked up Trillian.

[robc]

The writers mangling Adams' jokes fucked that up far more. I thought she was fine as Trillian.

[Randian]

Adams' 'jokes' are fucked up all on their own.

[PS]

Oh it was all mangled, but the I prefer the original Trillian character in the radio serials who wasn't a fucking dufus. That contrived dork stuff doesn't do it for me.

[sarcasmic]

I've wanted to fuck her brains out since I saw that movie.

[Kaptious Kristen]

Yeah, she was nothing like Trillian should have been. Nothing. The only casing they got right in that movie was Sam Rockwell.

And robc, Adams himself wrote the script.

[Kaptious Kristen]

*casTing

[robc]

Not the same Adams (as is evidenced by his later books).

And I refuse to believe he intentionally cut off the punchlines to his own jokes, that was done by someone else. Director in editing, if nothing else.

[EDG reppin' LBC]

^^^ Agreed.

[Randian]

I didn't even know she was married.

[RBS]

The AM links thread is a daily reminder of how little I know about pop/celebrity culture.

[Elspeth Flashman]

^^this.

[robc]

http://26.media.tumblr.com/tum.....o1_500.jpg

[Way Of The Crane]

Zooey Deschanel's divorce is officially finalized! She's single!

Who?

[Killazontherun]

Does absolutely nothing for me. I'm getting a migraine thinking about her.

[sarcasmic]

Kate Moss.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/fem.....tzman.html
More Kate Moss.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvs.....Barts.html

[C. Anacreon]

She is holding up exceptionally well in her 40's.

[sarcasmic]

Survival bunkers look kinda cool if you're into that sort of thing.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/new.....nkers.html

[Gene]

That's quite an ode to paranoia.

[Way Of The Crane]

What do they plan on doing with it on December 22nd?

[Matrix]

People in tornado areas should build more underground.

But this has plenty of uses. Problem is, everyone will know it is there. It would be all that easy to defend when large numbers of people try to get in.

[Dr. Frankenstein]

Wait the shelter builder is Ron Hubbard?
This explains a lot about the 12/21 racket.

[sarcasmic]

Special Queen James gay bible on sale.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/new.....ences.html

[Quetzalcoatl]

Someone tell Andrew Sullivan.

[Karl Hungus]

Special Queen James gay bible on sale

I lol'd and lol'd. Then I posted it to my Facebook, where many of my friends are of the conservative Christian type. The comments will likely be interesting!

[Karl Hungus]

Special Queen James gay bible on sale

I bet they think they're being all edgy and cool. Well I say they're cowards if they don't also release a "Queer Qur'an"!

[Restoras]

I thought the Cooran was already chock full o'tey gay, no?

[Karl Hungus]

I thought the Cooran was already chock full o'tey gay, no?
I've never even cracked one open, so I'm not sure. But if it is, it's probably just the sort of latent, sobconscious gayness that you see in the Santorum types. My ideal Queer Qur'an would have as its cover a velvet painting of Mohammed being made airtight, with an additional cock in each hand.

[EDG reppin' LBC]

...it's probably just the sort of latent, sobconscious gayness that you see in the Santorum types.

Or hear on Major League Baseball radio broadcasts.

[Killazontherun]

Pederasty, yes. Adult homosexual behavior, however, is frowned on, but prepubescent boys are considered a prize. You are even promised a few with buttholes that 'glisten like pearls' in heaven.

[Mike M.]

I thought that Queen James left for the Miami Heat a couple of years ago.

[Fist of Etiquette]

NASA crashed its GRAIL lunar crafts into the moon.

Space kamikaze! Don't fuck with us, Moon.

[gaijin]

Did anyone else think it kind of creepy that NASA named the crash site after Sally Ride?

[Brett L]

At least they didn't name it after Christa McAuliffe.

[Zeb]

I don't.

[DJF]

They named the new craters after Sally Ride. I guess its suppose to be a honor.

[C. Anacreon]

What a coincidence. When I was younger I named my acne craters after Sally Ride.

[T]

See, NASA figured out they had done the SI/USCS conversion incorrectly before launch this time. They knew it was gonna crash, so they're trying to play it off as intentional. That's my theory, anyway.

[Brett L]

I thought NASA standardized on old English Imperial units after that Mars debacle. That way everybody has to do conversions.

[T]

I honestly don't know. I should ask one of the NASA guys I know, but I'll probably forget before I see them.

[Brett L]

"The lander is currently experiencing 40 stone extra force."

I doubt it. I think its metric all the way, now. At least in software.

[Zeb]

That's what I would think. I love my US customary units (I just can't imagine using metric for carpentry), but it seems absurd that anyone in science or engineering that involves international efforts wouldn't. Though I suppose a lot of US engineers still use non-metric units a lot.

[Tonio]

Uh, no, T. These craft were not supposed to be in permanent orbit around the moon; it was always part of the mission plan that they'd crash. NASA chose the time and place of the crash rather than just letting this happen.

They may have taken advantage of the crashes to examine the ejecta (debris) via telescope. This was also done several years back by the Indian Space Agency.

[Fist of Etiquette]

They wanted to get the crash in before doomsday, but the irony is that the crash is what sets the doomsday events in motion.

[Lord Humungus]

Skeleton lover guilty: Swedish court
A 37-year-old Swedish woman with an admitted obsession with skeletons has been convicted of disturbing the peace of the dead for allegedly using human bones for sexual purposes.
http://www.thelocal.se/45120/2.....M-zVeTpft9

[Whiterun Guard]

That story gives me a big blue veined...

...headache.

[SIV]

Damn it! I had that one ready. She likes 'em lean with a low body mass.

[Lord Humungus]

so the female version of sarcasmic?

[Karl Hungus]

Skeleton lover guilty: Swedish court

The first thought that popped into my mind was, "wonder what she looks like."

Is that unhealthy?

[Generic Stranger]

Yes. Particularly if you date her.

[sarcasmic]

Megan Fox
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvs.....-Leno.html
*drool*

[Redmanfms]

Toe thumbs.

[sarcasmic]

Magazine uses trandgender model to play the first wookie.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/new.....cover.html

[John]

Looks just like her.

[Whiterun Guard]

Actually more feminine.

[carol]

A bit more feminine than the First Wookie.

[Gene]

It's arms are perfect.

[generic Brand]

Drinkin a pina colada at Trader Vic's.

[Rich]

HATE CRIME!!

[Way Of The Crane]

Yes, but is he/she black enough?

[SugarFree]

Sometimes the world really comes through for you. Thanks, world.

[Bee Tagger]

China's cracking down on a doomsday cult centered around this Friday, arresting more than a hundred alleged members nationwide.

The cult's predictions were off by 3 days.

[Quetzalcoatl]

A solid showing on most days, but I think Whiterun Guard cracked it wisest by just a hair.

[Whiterun Guard]

China's cracking down on a doomsday cult centered around this Friday, arresting more than a hundred alleged members nationwide.

Well, it's the end of the world as they know it.

[T]

And I feel fine!

[John]

http://www.althouse.blogspot.c.....about.html

Ann Althouse makes an obvious analogy

"What is the gun community going to do about this tragedy?"

"I dunno. What is the gay community going to do about Penn State?"

Hilarity ensues among her liberal readers.

[wareagle]

that is going to cost her a couple of invites to the cool holiday parties.

[Randian]

derp derp cosmotarian derp.

give it a rest already.

[wareagle]

why does reality scare you? That's who a lot of these people are; just read the comments on the post. Some get the analogy, a good many do not.

[Randian]

why does reality scare you?

"What is Yokeltarian Community going to do about its tiresome ad hominems? What, I ask?"

[generic Brand]

Are you on the rag or something? I don't understand the negative response to wareagle's snark.

[Randian]

Are you on the rag or something?

Always.

I don't understand the negative response to wareagle's snark.

The cocktail parties thing rankles. And it's fucking stale.

[Heroic Mulatto]

Well, that's gonna cost you an invitation to the next yokeltarian hootnanny. 🙂

[Randian]

Well, that's gonna cost you an invitation to the next yokeltarian hootnanny. 🙂

That's a good one!

[nicole]

Tractor pull. The next yokeltarian tractor pull.

[Zeb]

I agree that the "cocktail parties" thing gets rather tiresome. Just more of the same kind of "everyone who disagrees with me or believes something silly, or words things in a way I wouldn't have must have other motivations" crap you get pretty much everywhere.

[Groovus Maximus]

Randian| 12.18.12 @ 9:36AM |#

Are you on the rag or something?

Always.

Get thee to an OB/GYN! Assuming a regular ~28 day cycle, you should be ovulating about now, TAO. Or you are starting a new cycle. Depends on when in January you started. Have you had your yearly PAP?

Good thing ObamneyCare covers your contraception now... -D

[Groovus Maximus]

^HTML FAIL!^

[Randian]

ObamneyCare cured my ovarian cysts!

[Groovus Maximus]

ObamneyCare cured my ovarian cysts!

It's a Festivus MIRACLE!

Fun Fact about UKR:

Christmas is celebrated on Jan. 7.

Also, New Year's Day is celebrated twice: Once on the Gregorian New Year, which starts the Orthodox Christmas season, ending on Old New Year (a holdover from pre-Soviet times), which is Jan 14.

[Randian]

Christmas is celebrated on Jan. 7.

As it should be!

[Groovus Maximus]

As it should be!

Well, in the western part of UKR, Catholic Christmas is observed; tomorrow is St. Nicholas Day (one of the days the wee ones get goodies), but since the weather has been SOD awful, I don't think too many kids will get gifts and will have to wait for their loot.

Lots o' Holidays here.

[Zeb]

I keep thinking about just doing orthodox Christmas instead of regular western Christmas. No one else in my family ever seems to keen on it. But it would be great. Do all your shopping in the after christmas sales.

[Mike M.]

The rather obvious reason why the cosmotarian, cocktail party cracks piss off "Randian" so much is because you're talking about him.

[Randian]

The rather obvious reason why the cosmotarian, cocktail party cracks piss off "Randian" so much is because you're talking about him.

Would somebody please get Mike a new pack of Pall Malls and his moonshine? He's getting cranky.

[wareagle]

there is no requirement that you respond to posts you find tiresome. And yet, you do so while dredging up tired ad hominems of your own.

[sloopyinca]

Come on you guys. Can't we all just get along?

[Mike M.]

Go easy on poor Randian, he probably just had a couple too many wine coolers at Dupont Circle last night.

[Randian]

Shows what you know! They were artisanal microbrews!

[Kaptious Kristen]

Oy vey. That would be a couple too many Merlots at Logan Circle. Get with the program.

[Tonio]

Lulz. Pot, meet Kettle; Kettle, Pot.

[A Secret Band of Robbers]

Surely we can all agree to basic penis control laws like size restrictions, registration and licensing requirements. Perhaps penis-free zones in our schools. Point is, we all agree that we have to do what we can to keep penises out of the hands of our children.

[A Secret Band of Robbers]

It's terrifying to think how many of our neighbors and co-workers might be concealed carry penis owners.

[Randian]

Do you know what the correlation is to penis-having and rape? I bet it's 99%! Ban penises now!

[Auric Demonocles]

Perhaps penis-free zones in our schools.

The increase in nursing programs will bring down healthcare costs too!

[DJF]

What about vibrators with multiple D size batteries? Why does anyone need them for home entertainment?

[Auric Demonocles]

Listen, there are no tail hunters I know that require foreskins. Those are just plain unnecessary and should be outright banned.

[A Secret Band of Robbers]

On a related note, we probably need to ban cheap imported penises, or as they call them, "friday night specials."

[sasob]

Why?! Well for multi-orgasmic women, of course - whadyathink?

[DJF]

Woman get multiple orgasms? How is that fair? No wonder they don't get paid as much.

[John]

And is there anyone besides the military and police or maybe the regulated porn industry to use dangerous drugs like cyalis and Viagra?

[Auric Demonocles]

You can't group gays together! They're all special individuals! Not like gun owners or straight white men, who are all responsible for everything someone else in that group does!

[sasob]

Oh hell - straight white men are responsible for everything someone else in every group does.

[Randian]

One of the comments has your number, John:

The rightwingers demanding what are ordinary Muslims going to do about Jihadists...

[John]

Really Randian? Would you like to show any post anywhere where I have said ordinary Muslims are responsible for stopping Jihadists?

I really don't care if agree with me or not. That is the fun of a board. But I would greatly appreciate it if you would at least try to pay some attention to what I actually think and say. It shouldn't be too hard for you. You seem like a reasonably intelligent person. It will just take a little effort on your part and some actual thought. I hope that is not expecting too much.

[Heroic Mulatto]

where I have said ordinary Muslims are responsible for stopping Jihadists?

Well...umm...aren't they?

Or can change only be imposed from the outside?

[John]

where I have said ordinary Muslims are responsible for stopping Jihadists?

Well...umm...aren't they?

Or can change only be imposed from the outside?

It is a good idea for them to do something. But they are not responsible for the actions of their idiot fellow travelers. At most they have an obligation to condemn the jihadists and make it clear they are not them.

[Heroic Mulatto]

At most they have an obligation to condemn the jihadists and make it clear they are not them.

At most? At least!

[Randian]

Did I hit a nerve?

Sounds like I did.

Oh hey lookit here: John blaming ordinary Muslims:

John| 7.27.10 @ 11:11AM

"any more than catholic priests should have to go around saying that they're not pedophiles."

Maybe they shouldn't have to, but they certainly do. Go talk to any priest about what it is like to be a priest post scandal. It hangs like a specter over everything they do.

And I have been to a few mosques in my time and I never found there to be anything like what you are talking about. They were not radical or calling for violence. But the subject really never came up. And indeed in some mosques it does, like the one in Arlington VA, but there is is praised not condemed.

And you are building a straw man. It is not that they have to tell the world they are no violent. It is that they have to kick the violent ones out of their religion. If the extremists were not recognized it would be harder for them to operate.

and:

John| 7.27.10 @ 9:36AM

Is it really that big of a deal to renounce violent extremism? Is it really the private citizens' right to call for the death of other citizens? And if so, can we really blame the other citizens for taking matters into their own hands and killing him first?

Yeah, lets have Muslims run around the country talking about how it is their duty to kill non-Muslims. If you really want to see a lot of dead Muslims, that is a great way to do it.

[John]

You didn't hit a nerve at all. And none of those say that the state of affairs is right or just. They are pointing out reality. Do I think it is right to hold every priest accountable for the bad ones? No. Do people do that? Yes. As for Muslims, do yourself a favor and read what I said.

Yeah, lets have Muslims run around the country talking about how it is their duty to kill non-Muslims. If you really want to see a lot of dead Muslims, that is a great way to do it.

That is a statement of fact. If people honestly start to think all Muslims want to kill them, that will not be a good thing for Muslims. That is all I was saying.

So sorry Randian. FAIL!!

[Randian]

Is it really that big of a deal to renounce violent extremism?

[John]

Is it really that big of a deal to renounce violent extremism?

No it is not. But saying that someone has the obligation to denounce things and make it clear they are not that, is not making then responsible.

Yes, gun owners should make it clear they are not and do not plan to use their guns to kill small children. The same way Muslims should make it clear they have no plans to kill the infidel and do not support as such.

Saying "I am not this" is not the same as saying "I am responsible for this"

Give it up Randian. Your ass is showing badly. Just stop lying and drop it.

[Randian]

No it is not. But saying that someone has the obligation to denounce things and make it clear they are not that, is not making then responsible.

They have the 'obligation' to do it, but they wouldn't in some way be responsible if they didn't.

So why is there an obligation?

Give it up Randian. Your ass is showing badly. Just stop lying and drop it.

You got caught in a lie. Your bluster is typical of that fact.

[John]

They have the 'obligation' to do it, but they wouldn't in some way be responsible if they didn't.

Well yes, if you actively support violence, you are in some way responsible for said violence. If a gun owner or anyone refused to condemn the guy in Newtown and made excuses for him, then that person can't complain when someone says he supports mass murder. Same thing here.

[Randian]

It is that

they have to kick

the violent ones out of their religion.

Who's 'they' and what do 'they' 'have to' do, John, and why?

[robc]

The gun community kicked the Newtown fucker out of their community.

[John]

Exactly Rob. No one in the gun community made excuses for him or claimed that he was anything but a monster. Is it too much to expect Muslims to do the same with suicide bombers? Expecting that is not holding them responsible. It is just asking them to differentiate themselves.

[Drake]

I'm not sure an insane, non-gun-owning, 20-year-old loser was ever in the "community".

[Randian]

I'm not sure an insane, non-gun-owning, 20-year-old loser was ever in the "community".

Spot on.

Just like I don't assume that this guy was in the 'gun community', I also don't assume that a jihadist is in the ordinary 'Muslim community'

John is going great guns here because he got called on his own collectivist problems.

[John]

Who's 'they' and what do 'they' 'have to' do, John, and why?

Yes, they have to make it clear they are not jidhadists and the jihiadists are not them. That is not holding them responsible. If you support people and say what they do is okay, then yeah, maybe you should be associated with them. Kind of like if gun owners ran around and said that it was okay to kill children with their weapons.

Flail harder Randians. Lie some more. Do some more frantic google searching. Move the goal posts. You are dying here.

[Randian]

Yes, they have to make it clear they are not jidhadists and the jihiadists are not them.

Why? I don't assume that they are.

So, in your words, the gun "community" has the obligation to go around saying "we don't condone shooting children", otherwise we would be perfectly within our rights to assume that they do condone shooting children?

It's the exact. same. analogy.

[John]

Why? I don't assume that they are.

Even though the jihadists claim to speak and act for every Muslim? When someone claims to act in your name and in the name of your religion, there is no reason for anyone to assume that they do in fact act for the religion? And why is condemning the person so hard? Wouldn't you want to do that? As a gun owner, I am happy to condemn all people who use guns to commit murder. And in doing that, I absolve myself of any association with those who do.

It is that simple. You lose. Now go away and do yourself a favor and avoid this topic in the future. You are incapable of thinking or speaking rationally about it and it just turns you into an annoying twat.

[Randian]

As a gun owner, I am happy to condemn all people who use guns to commit murder.

Ooh, congratulations.

I absolve myself of any association with those who do.

It wasn't necessary, and I never would have thought you responsible in the first place.

Here is what you are saying:

"Until and unless someone actively denounces X, it may be implied that he is a supporter of X, until such time as he satisfies John's collectivist sensibilities"

[robc]

I dont think you have to proactively say it, but if asked, you should confirm it.

Just constantly refer to them as "fuckers" when it comes up, like I did above, for example.

[John]

Did I hit a nerve?

Sounds like I did.

[tarran]

Ann Althouse makes an obvious analogy

"What is the gun community going to do about this tragedy?"

"I dunno. What is the gay community going to do about Penn State?"

Dang, I had just written this huge diatribe about how gays != pedophiles when I got the point.

Sigh... at least I hadn't hit submit.

[Enough About Palin]

Gays do not equal pedophiles. However, I would assert that if a man likes having sex with little boys he is gay and if he likes to have sex with little girls he is straight. Anyone care to differ?

[tarran]

I disagree, I argue that it's a distinct enough phenomenon that it should be considered a third (or fourth?) sexual orientation (hopefully I'm not misusing the terminology).

Children lack the secondary/primary sexual characteristics of adults, don't give off the same pheromones as adults, etc. I would think that homosexuals and heterosexuals have more in common with their sexual desires than a pedophile who likes girls does with a heterosexual for example.

Of course, it really doesn't help that some opponents of homosexuality conflate it with pedophilia.

Also things are further muddied by the conflation of ephebophilia (an attraction to postpubescent humans which is socially inappropriate eg. the 60 year old guy chasing 14 year old girls) with pedophilia which -strictly speaking - involves sexual attraction to prepubescent children.

[db]

Gays do not equal pedophiles, but neither do gun owners equal murderers.

[tarran]

Where were you when I was hammering away angrily at the keyboard? 😀

[SugarFree]

db is... The Summarizer.

Tuesdays at 9 this fall on Fox.

[Groovus Maximus]

Odd. In Japan, it's called Teenage Sigma 9 Apostrophe GO!

Or at least that's what my teevee tells me. (Finally got International Satellite PLUS!)

[db]

"Reading comprehension for Great Justice."

[BakedPenguin]

"The terrorists are going to blow up the midtown bridge unless we read their manifesto and answer them in one hour."

"What? But it's 685 pages! We'll never read all of that in time! Oh, if there were only someone who could give us the gist of it!"

[Warty]

AF said...
Right, because gay people are to raping boys as semiautomatics are to killing people.

Fucking bigots.

12/17/12 6:37 PM

Precisely. Fucking bigots.

[Red Rocks Rockin]

Looks like AF is missing the whole point of the quite deliberate false analogy.

Although it is amusing that when a gay man happens to have proclivities towards underage males, the usual suspects do gymnastics to excuse their behavior. I highly doubt J. Bryan Lowder would be so magnanimous if it was an older man accused of hooking up with teenage girls looking for a sugar daddy.

[robc]

I had to read the comments, it was actually well worth it for the derp.

Im usually not fond of analogies, as they are rarely accurate, but that one is literally dead on.

[Drake]

Damn that is awesome - I may have to use.

[Fist of Etiquette]

China's cracking down on a doomsday cult centered around this Friday, arresting more than a hundred alleged members nationwide.

Sentencing them to three days in jail.

[John]

Weird the Chicoms are so terrified of cults.

[gaijin]

There can be only one!

[sasob]

Hey, when you have a population as large as China's even a small cult can be the size of an ordinary country and therefore a potential problem.

[wareagle]

been a big week for the "if only" crowd:
--if only certain guns were banned
--if only certain video games were banned
--if only kids prayed in school

If only these folks would try something more than simplistic bullshit.

[SIV]

--if only our wealthiest families had full access to mental healthcare.

[Quetzalcoatl]

srsly, this lady had over $250k a year in alimony.

So some people have changed their tune from "Obamacare coulda stopped it" to "mandatory compulsory institutionalization is the only way".

[Certified Public Asskicker]

If only we hired security personnel for schools instead of a 7th Vice Principal.

But I digress.

[wareagle]

I actually suggested that to one of the gun-ban folks and may as well have called for arming each individual child.

[T]

I would hesitate to go up against a pack of armed 6 year olds. Enough motor control to aim okay, absolutely no understanding of the consequences? It'd be like arming proglodytes.

[Matrix]

Guns are too ickey for most proglodytes. They'd just leave them sitting someplace in front of them and stare. No harm will befall you.

[Quetzalcoatl]

You have to make some concessions, CPA.
Let them call it Vice Principal of Absolute Saftey.

[Certified Public Asskicker]

I like it.

This isn't of course my ideal solution (ideally I would utilize school choice more) but I figured reallocating school administrators into something useful, like security, was a good start.

[JD the elder]

One comment I saw said something relatively harmless like, "Schools should have good locks and secure windows" and one of the gun-banners' responses was that we shouldn't have to turn our elementary schools into prisons.

Right, because a good solid door makes a "prison", but calling for making numerous new crimes and throwing hundreds or thousands of people in prison doesn't...

[Red Rocks Rockin]

one of the gun-banners' responses was that we shouldn't have to turn our elementary schools into prisons

$100 says that moron lives in some suburban whiteopia.

[Whiterun Guard]

--if only our schools were impregnable fortresses rife with armed guards
--if only Eli Manning wasn't riddled with herpes

[Brett L]

Fuck Eli Manning. I want to know how much he gets from bookies for breaking the spread so often.

[Whiterun Guard]

He gets paid in Valtrex.

[Lord Humungus]

R.I.P. Sen. Inouye
http://www.asianamerican.net/b.....aniel.html

Back in Italy, the 442nd was assaulting a heavily defended hill in the closing months of the war when Lieutenant Inouye was hit in his abdomen by a bullet which came out his back, barely missing his spine. He continued to lead the platoon and advanced alone against a machine gun nest which had his men pinned down. He tossed two hand grenades with devastating effect before his right arm was shattered by a German rifle grenade at close range. Inouye threw his last grenade with his left hand, attacked with a submachine gun and was finally knocked down the hill by a bullet in the leg.

[John]

Badass doesn't do that guy justice.

[SIV]

RIP Senator Inouye

Never forget that FDR and Earl Warren thought Japanese-Americans belonged in concentration camps.

[Kaptious Kristen]

That is some badass action movie shit, right there. RIP.

[Chris Mallory]

Burn in Hell, Inouye. Nothing but a lifelong leech upon the taxpayers.

[mad libertarian guy]

You're still here?

Ugh.

[T]

Yeah, I may hate everything he stood for in elected office, but much respect for the man. Where that says shattered? Think sheared off. According to one account, he pulled the live grenade out of his severed right hand and threw it with his left. It doesn't get much more badass than that.

[Enough About Palin]

I don't know. The will to survive is mighty strong. One just keeps doing what one must.

[Zeb]

Sure. Lots of people might have performed similarly in the same circumstances. It's still badass and worthy of note.

[Karl Hungus]

I don't know. The will to survive is mighty strong. One just keeps doing what one must.

That wasn't jsut about surviving; he actually continued to perform his mission.

"Hardcore" or "badass" or whatever adjective you prefer to describe actions that few among us would have the mettle to undertake.

[Enough About Palin]

"That wasn't jsut about surviving; he actually continued to perform his mission."

His only chance at survival.

[Ted S.]

Inouye wouldn't be dead if the government had passed a law banning respiratory infections.

[Groovus Maximus]

Consider it an IPAB test case.

[JW]

R.I.P. Sen. Inouye

Meh. Not caring.

Like McCain, Whatever badass things he did as a soldier was rendered moot by his years of squalid mendacity and as an agent for the expansionist state as a congresscritter.

[Fist of Etiquette]

Electors nationwide cast their ballots for president, with Barack Obama winning with an expected 126 vote margin.

NO! ALL OF THEM MUST CAST THEIR BALLOTS FOR OBAMA. Everyone voted for Obama.

[generic Brand]

How many "Ron Paul" breakaway votes?

[robc]

As he lost Nevada, probably none.

He had 3 potential votes there.

[robc]

The first "he" being Romney.

[Lord Humungus]

The Medium Is the Motive
The right to bear arms isn't the only freedom implicated in massacres like last week's.
http://online.wsj.com/article/.....TopOpinion

"What actually matters are the children." A lovely thought, an empty piety. The children had "news value" only because they came to a horrible end. Had they been left alone to grow up, it's unlikely any of them would ever have come to the attention of the Times editorial page. The editorial omits the murderer's name--perhaps a deliberate gesture, and if so, a futile one. Even if you don't know his name, you know who he is.

Committing journalism is not a wrongful act, and often it is a noble one. But all of us who, in the course of making a living at it, help publicize these horrific acts are in a small way implicated in enabling them. Perhaps those who scapegoat gun-rights supporters do so because they have too much pride to contemplate their own fallen nature.

[mad libertarian guy]

Committing journalism is not a wrongful act, and often it is a noble one. But all of us who, in the course of making a living at it, help publicize these horrific acts are in a small way implicated in enabling them. Perhaps those who scapegoat gun-rights supporters do so because they have too much pride to contemplate their own fallen nature.

Unpossible.

[Zeb]

Or they are just opportunistic assholes.

Even if journalists in some way contribute to people's decisions to do horrible things like this, I don't think that suppression of speech, even voluntary suppression is desirable or (especially) feasible.

Trying to blame anyone or anything (besides the actual perpetrator) for things like this is stupid and harmful, if you ask me.

[John]

http://hotair.com/archives/201.....e-is-down/

Don't bother me with your bourgeois "facts" about gun violence. Only the revolutionary truth matters.

[Rich]

It is troubling that many of the voices clamoring loudest for a "national conversation" about gun policy already seem to have their minds made up about what sorts of guns should be available, and to whom.

This.

[Jordan]

The president has asked his cabinet on ideas for gun control reforms.

But this is impossible! Where's Shriek to tell us how Obama is pro 2nd Amendment?

[John]

They are on a full bender over this.

[Palin's Buttplug]

There will be some token ideas - maybe one will pass. Like when Reagan banned plastic guns.

[wareagle]

that's your answer? Maybe you should sit this one out as there is no way you can defend The Obama here.

[John]

That is all he ever has. He is a lying sack of shit sock puppet.

[Palin's Buttplug]

Bullshit. He is doing the reasonable thing.

Punting on 4th and 35 then playing defense.

Asking for ideas is a meaningless gesture.

[RBS]

Hahahaha, good one wareagle.

[db]

Or like when the Hughes Amendment was inserted into legislation in a midnight debate and reading of the amendment was suppressed before voting?

[db]

Sorry, Hughes attempted to suppress reading of the amendment, but Rangel inverted the voice vote count from the previous voice vote (5 minutes earlier) and called victory for the inserted amendment.

[NoVAHockey]

re: plastic guns: the Post actually had the "Glocks are plastic" line in a article yesterday.

[Restoras]

Our lazy, illiterate literarti.

[Lord Humungus]

Physics: How Strong Is a Hobbit?
http://www.wired.com/wiredscie.....-a-hobbit/

If a hobbit is 72% the height of a human, he would just have 52% the strength. Let's say a normal adult human male can bench press 150 pounds (just making this up people). That would mean the hobbit could bench press 78 pounds.

[T]

Epic fail. This assumes hobbits are identical to humans except for size. Look at chimpanzees. Chimps are notoriously far stronger than humans, despite weighing less.

[Quetzalcoatl]

Exactly. Next they'll be saying that Legolas is stronger than Gimli just because he's taller.

[Whiterun Guard]

He could be, if he was wearing his Girdle of Hill Giant Strength.

[Restoras]

Well sure but against my Vorpal Sword all are powerless!

[wareagle]

this also factors in the wrong exercise. Things like benches and squats are better fits for people with short limbs. There are plenty of Olympic and power lifters who are short but lift the equivalent of three mules.

[KMA Too]

"the equivalent of three mules"

So, how many otters would that be? Maybe 150? 160?

Besides, do mules even "lift"? I bet you could train racoons to do presses, since they seem to be able to grip.

[Karl Hungus]

Chimps are notoriously far stronger than humans, despite weighing less.

No, chimpanzees are known for their strength. They're notorious for using that strength to pull your face off, then showing it to you before raping your dead skull.

[Karl Hungus]

No, chimpanzees are known for their strength. They're notorious for using that strength to pull your face off, then showing it to you before raping your dead skull.

I forgot to include: WEARING your face as a mask while raping your dead skull.

[sloopyinca]

You people all know that Middle Earth isn't real, right?

Right???

[Zeb]

Well, it's in a real book (and some movies too, or so I have heard).

Or, my alternative, more snarky response:

Yeah. Neither is fantasy football.

[ant1sthenes]

Then why is DiFi so afraid of Legolas?

[Rich]

Imagine:

Dick's Sporting Goods ... has removed slashed prices on all guns .... The move was made out of respect for the victims and families of last week's Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting

[db]

An article on drone operators and their struggles.

Why isn't he with the Air Force anymore? There was one day, he says, when he knew that he wouldn't sign the next contract. It was the day Bryant walked into the cockpit and heard himself saying to his coworkers: "Hey, what motherfucker is going to die today?"

[gaijin]

Yes, and don't forget that it is 'inappropriate to question the President' on his role in murdering children: http://news.antiwar.com/2012/1.....-citizens/

[sasob]

Well of course it is inappropriate - hell, you might make Bambi cry. (though probably not)

[generic Brand]

He probably refused to re-up with the Air Force because there was a cushy gig back home at the police department for him. He wouldn't even have to switch up his "witty banter"

[gaijin]

He lives in Missoula MT...wears a Palestinian headscarf, and has bad dreams and guilt. Poor hero.

[db]

RTA. He lives with his mother because he doesn't make enough money to get his furniture out of storage.

[$park?]

Parents continue to not understand.

"We have no desire for revenge," Bogenberger's parents said in a statement after the charges were announced. "Rather, we hope that some significant change will come from David's death. Alcohol poisoning claims far too many young, healthy lives. We must realize that young people can and do die in hazing rituals. Alcohol-involved hazing and initiation must end."

[Ted S.]

If we didn't infantilize our young people by having a 21-year-old drinking age, perhaps they might learn responsible drinking earlier.

Hell, we have sex education in schools predicated on the idea that the kiddies are going to do it anyway. Why not alcohol education predicated on the idea that the kiddies are going to drink anyway?

[sloopyinca]

So where are the witnesses to the kidnapping that took place that resulted in their son being at the frat house? Why haven't they come forward yet?

[$park?]

Donald Trump wins Miss USA catfight.

Former Miss Pennsylvania Monnin quit the competition in June, claiming a fellow contestant had seen a list containing the top five winners before they were officially announced. She blasted the pageant as "fraudulent, lacking in morals, inconsistent and in many ways trashy."

[DJF]

She still has better hair then Trump. Of course everyone has better hair then Trump.

[Rich]

What is Beaker, chopped liver?

[generic Brand]

Any interest I may have ever had in any of the Miss _______ Pageants (which was already miniscule) went out the window when the one girl was lambasted by Perez Hilton of all people for speaking her mind.

[Quetzalcoatl]

She blasted the pageant as "fraudulent, lacking in morals, inconsistent and in many ways trashy."

Does... does she not know who owns the pageant? Because that's a pretty spot-on description of him...

[$park?]

This just in: wind farms kill birds.

Proponents say going soft on the wind industry allows it to compete. But environmentalists say, in this instance, it's unacceptable.

"The playing field is not leveled," American Bird Conservancy spokesman Bill Johns told FoxNews.com, recalling the West Virginia incident. "If there had been a serious consequence the first time, there wouldn't have been a second time and a third time. All they do now is go, 'Whoops, my bad' and it's forgiven."

[$park?]

Behold the future. Don't worry, it's not the ED-209.

The company describes the TX7 as a Multi Mission Vehicle (MMV) and says it can replace a variety of vehicles currently used by law enforcement agencies to meet incident command, personnel transport and SWAT team needs. Built on the chassis of a truck from an existing automaker that Carbon Motors is not yet ready to reveal, the TX7 is to be powered by a V8 diesel engine driving all four wheels and can be configured to carry up to 10 people. A compressed natural gas version is also in the works. Its bodywork features a new take on the distinctive polygonal design first seen on the E7.

[Fist of Etiquette]

...and removed all guns from the store near Newtown, Connecticut.

Just in case he rises from the dead.

[Whiterun Guard]

Can't blame them for not wanting a double-tap!

[Palin's Buttplug]

Why didn't the Wingnuttery explode when this happened?

WASHINGTON ? The House, acting to protect airline passengers from terrorist weapons of the future, Tuesday overwhelmingly approved a bill to ban all-plastic firearms that could avoid detection by airport security devices.

The measure, which sailed through on a 413-4 vote, now goes to the Senate, where quick approval is expected with the extraordinary joint blessing of such traditional foes as the National Rifle Assn. and Handgun Control Inc.

(LA Times)

[Rich]

ban all-plastic firearms

Guns made out of frozen molasses in 3, 2, 1, ....

[Whiterun Guard]

Probably for the same reason your team ie enthralled and leg-thrilled when O-face blows up little brown kids.

[Randian]

Why didn't the Wingnuttery explode when this happened?

Why didn't you?

[T]

Because at the time, everybody knew they were banning unicorns?

[wareagle]

Why didn't the Wingnuttery explode when this happened?

perhaps you should go ask the wingnuttery. My guess is that folks here saw the plastic ban to be as silly as the call for today's bans, along with the ones about banning video games. You may be looking for National Review.

[Palin's Buttplug]

Because Reagan did it.

The 2nd Amendment is fully violated by this ban.

But the Wingnuttery will allow a fellow AbortoFreak this kind of transgression.

[John]

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t.....4169,d.dmQ

[wareagle]

Reagan signed something that had 4 NO votes in the House. Resolutions supporting apple pie don't have dissent that small. It was as cosmetic as The Obama's bleatings about raising taxes on the wealthy.

[Palin's Buttplug]

Still a clear violation of the 2A.

Notice it banned the mere existence of these guns - not carrying them onto an airplane.

[wareagle]

the straws are asking that you stop grasping them so tightly.

[T]

While I normally don't bother arguing with you, the only way this is clear violation of the 2d is if all-plastic guns are the only kinds of guns in existence.

As it is, there is no all plastic gun that actually functions that I'm aware of, and there sure as shit wasn't when Reagan was in office. So a law that bans things that don't exist is a violation of my fundamental rights how, exactly? Does a law banning telepathy violate your right to free speech?

[Palin's Buttplug]

Replace plastic with "stainless steel" then. Not all guns are made of such. Therefore such a ban is Constitutional, right?

[sloopyinca]

I think Shrike is a doucher but he's right on this one. Reagan should never have signed a law limiting what someone could keep or bear. At first blush, that law was and is a clear violation of the 2A. If someone wants to own an all-plastic gun, that's their business. It's the concept of the weapon that the 2A protects, not the composition of the components.

Maybe I'm being drawn in to make a contrarian argument by some overwhelming force. If so I apologize. But the way I see it, this would be akin to banning any communication (speech) by satellite in the 40's. Would it be OK to do since the technology didn't exist?

[Zeb]

How are the all plastic bullets and cartridges coming?

[Lord Humungus]

I finished the first second pass of my book yesterday. I'm taking a break before I revisit the whole thing - fixing grammar, improvments, and filling niggling plot holes. In the meanwhile, I'm asking for book title ideas. I always hate the title I come up with and usually lean on my brother for ideas. However he's busy making a faux movie trailer right now for a script that he recently wrote.

I don't want to give away too many plot points but I'll say: post-apocalypse, nanobots, an infection with odd side-effects, cars, trucks, explosions, and set in a rural area.

My working title is: The Outbreak - but I'm not married to it.

[Auric Demonocles]

"SOMALIA!"

[Lord Humungus]

ftw!

[Palin's Buttplug]

Is there a Glenn Beck type super-hero that saves the world from liberals?

[Randian]

Only in your fevered wet dreams.

[Lord Humungus]

no, I don't write porn for buttplugs.

[Enough About Palin]

Porn for Buttplugs

There's your title right there.

[Whiterun Guard]

Here's some:

The Nano-state
The Nano Diaries
Nano McFee
Plagueocalypse
One Hundred Nanoseconds of Solitude
Grey Ooze, More Booze
Eli Manning is Riddled with Herpes

[Jordan]

The Monocle Incident. Make it work.

[Quetzalcoatl]

I'm not really a fan of The Outbreak. Way too generic, no offense.

If I were you, I would give whatever gov't-funded mad-science project produced the nanobots a really awesome name, then just call the book that, possibly with a subtitle. That allows easy serialization once this one goes viral (so to speak).

The laziest iteration of this would be something like "Project Chimera: Aftermath".

[Lord Humungus]

agreed with the generic title - looks like a zombie book.

[Eduard van Haalen]

"Outbreak" was a Hollywood movie (or maybe two movies, I forget).

How about "small but deadly" or the tagline, "the robots may be tiny, but the Apocalypse isn't," or "size doesn't matter for these death machines!"

[EDG reppin' LBC]

How about "silent but deadly"?

[db]

Nano Waves of Grain

[Whiterun Guard]

The Nanotarian

[SugarFree]

GodPenis McWorldFucker and His Amazing CasseroleBot

[Brett L]

Sounds like a Lee Martinez book.

[SugarFree]

You sound like a Lee Martinez book

[Brett L]

You're a towel.

[T]

Penis Kisses From God, while shamelessly stolen, has more of a ring to it.

[$park?]

filling niggling plot holes

Well I'm calling RACIST on the whole thing now.

[Redmanfms]

filling niggling plot holes

This should totally be the title!

[gagster]

Bush's Fault

[SIV]

Sweden Rocked By Slut-Shaming Riots

[Whiterun Guard]

I would like to be rocked by Sweden-shaming sluts.

[sloopyinca]

Nassau County, NY police officer makes 186,000 per year. Spends his on-duty time servicing his three mistresses.

Note how other cops in his department helped him do it as opposed to turning him in or arresting him. He was caught because the third woman he was sleeping with while on duty turned him in while being questioned by cops about another officer that was doing the same thing with her. That one has since offed himself.

[Restoras]

It's going to be awesome to watch all that shit come to an end.

[Karl Hungus]

It's going to be awesome to watch all that shit come to an end.

You mean to watch the guy retire with full benefits after being slapped on the wrist? That's not awesome at all!

[Kaptious Kristen]

What's the call sign fr police officer groupies? Like, NASCAR has Pit Lizards.

[Jordan]

Badge Bunnies.

[KMA Too]

^This^

Or, Fender Lizards, apparently.

[sarcasmic]

Baconators?

[Kaptious Kristen]

Neither of those conveys how disgusting you have to be to think cops are sexy and fuck them exclusively.

[Brett L]

Badge Bunnies.

[mad libertarian guy]

Baton Beaters?

[Enough About Palin]

Sows, as in Pigs and Sows.

[Way Of The Crane]

What's the call sign fr police officer groupies? Like, NASCAR has Pit Lizards.

Fuzz Lovers?

[sasob]

Pig fuckers?

[Robert S]

Badge Sniffers

[Kant feel Pietzsche]

Copsuckers

[John]

http://collegeinsurrection.com.....n-a-stick/

Rhode Island prof demands NRA chief's "head on a stick

When you hear shit like this and then listen to freaks on here like Shreek, you really have to wonder how long before these people commit actual acts of violence.

[sarcasmic]

These people are against firearms because they know that they themselves are too emotionally volatile to be safe with one, and they project this weakness onto everyone else (except those who have gone through magical government training that makes policemen safe and trustworthy unlike everyone else).

Thankfully most of them do not own firearms, which makes the rest of us a bit more safe.

[Restoras]

Frankly, morons like this are simply far to pussified to actually do anything violent.

[sarcasmic]

I dunno. Put a gun into their hand while they're in an emotional tizzy and I bet they might shoot someone.

[Restoras]

I doubt it. They think guns are evil (even though they don't believe in such distinctions) and will burn their flesh/go off randomly/infect them with some sort of freedom loving virus. At least that's the impression I get from the libtards I have to associate with.

And let's not forget the hypocrisy of it all. The cognitive dissonance would make their heads go all 'splody.

Now, if some union thug took it upon themselves...well that would be ok. But I'm not sure your typical blue-collar guy is going to do that.

[Rich]

Then declares himself a Twitter martyr because people quoted what he said

*** facepalm ***

[wareagle]

when they say things like this, it is taken seriously by the intelligentsia and treated as reasonable discourse. When someone they disagree with says the same thing, it is hate speech.

The bubble of academia, best acoustics in the echo chamber universe.

[Lord Humungus]

mostly "tuff gai" schtick. Of all the people I know only a small minority are willing to risk jail or the pain of getting into a real fight

[John]

This is true. But the problem is that if things ever break down to where that is not a threat or worse yet, the government is sanctioning the violence, these people will be all for it and be the first ones to sign up to do it.

[Lord Humungus]

yeah, it's easier to be part of the mob (or even direct it) than get your own hands dirty.

[Whiterun Guard]

Well take comfort in the fact that they'll also be the ones on the "frontlines" of the unarmed side.

[Restoras]

^^Yep.

[Randian]

He's just desperate for attention. I mean, he's a law professor in Rhode Island. That has to suck.

[Lord Humungus]

"Nuclear War in Rhode Island" /old Dragon magazine joke

[Red Rocks Rockin]

Dear right-wing morons, saying you "want someone's head on a stick" is a metaphor. I know metaphor is hard for you to understand.

Dear Erik Loomis, saying I want you "raped by a hundred prison cocks" is a metaphor. I know a metaphor is hard for you to understand.

[sloopyinca]

Maryland Police Officer sentenced to 7 years on an assault charge for trying to kill his wife in a kiddie pool while her children were forced to watch. The false imprisonment, brandishing, attempted murder and handgun enhancement for all of them were dropped in the plea deal.

[PS]

Speaking of cops, I just got a 5 minute excerpt of the riot act and the threat of a 2000 k? fine for crossing against a red light in front of a cop who was acting as a crossing guard at the local school.

[Lord Humungus]

I once got the "this fine could be $100" speech. I had a hard time not laughing in the guy's face.

[PS]

I find that being an arrogant and condescending American along with sandbagging my Czech works pretty well. My wife is nice and law-abiding and Czech and they walk all over her. Never strident or overtly angry, though, maintain aloofness. I wouldn't recommend this in places where the cops really are full-on fascist cunts like Poland or Serbia.

[Groovus Maximus]

Also not wise to pull with UKR police, and it's doubly hard when you don't know if you are dealing with a Russian-Ukrainian or a National-Ukrainian until they open their mouth. So you wait for them to speak first and then respond in kind. The wrong language choice can make your interaction...difficult.

Also, good evening PS!

[PS]

Evening doctor. I'm only condescending and arrogant when dealing with city police on the street. Pulled over in the car one has to generally show more deference. My Swedish friend is quite good at dealing with both Czech and Russian cops (especially when drunk driving), although he did get a ridiculous amount of tickets for not having a fire extinguisher.

[Groovus Maximus]

HA! Too funny. Yes, Euro-landia does have an inordinate amount of weird safety laws for cars. I think it's a racket, personally. People in the USA should be thankful they don't have half the restrictions of your average Euro-landia nation.

He must be exceptionally smooth. Don't get caught driving with liquor on your breath in UKR: You will be arrested. Unless you are a bureaucrat.

[DJF]

So this means that he will probably be put on 7 years paid leave and be eligible for promotions right?

[Heroic Mulatto]

Maryland Police Officer sentenced to 7 years on an assault charge for trying to kill his wife in a kiddie pool while her children were forced to watch. The false imprisonment, brandishing, attempted murder and handgun enhancement for all of them were dropped in the plea deal.

THESE ARE THE ONLY PEOPLE WHO SHOULD HAVE GUNS!

[Zeb]

Yeah. Interesting how one horrible incident means we need to rethink our whole approach to guns, but cops doing shit like this are isolated incidents that mean nothing.

[WTF]

No double standard at all.

[sloopyinca]

"That's what I like about these high school girls. I get older. They stay easy to rape."

-Wicomico, DE Sheriff's Deputy Kendall Elmer West

[Whiterun Guard]

Wait, when did Prima Noctae get rescinded?! I can't keep up with all these rule changes.

[sloopyinca]

"You know what sucks about the internet? Nobody's who they say they are."

Maury County, TN Sheriff's Deputy Jackie Wayne Sands

[Lord Humungus]

Driver charged with DUI Marijuana after deadly crash in Vancouver
http://www.kptv.com/story/2036.....-vancouver

Police say the victim, a male in his 50's, was believed to be walking back from Safeway and stepped out into the middle of traffic.

The driver, Scotty Rowles, was driving westbound on East Mill Plain Boulevard and could not stop his car in time, according to police.

Detectives says Rowles cooperated with the investigation, but after interviewing him they determined there was enough evidence to arrest him on suspicion of driving under the influence of marijuana.

[sarcasmic]

Detectives says Rowles cooperated with the investigation

dumbass

[Quetzalcoatl]

He's Canadian, he couldn't help but be cooperative and polite.

[mr simple]

New Star Trek villian not Khan.

[Matrix]

I saw the first "9 minutes" during the previews before The Hobbit. It got me excited. I can't wait for the movie to come out. But it seemed pretty clear in the trailer that it was not Khan.

[Auric Demonocles]

It was a good trailer. Still seemed short in front of the Hobbit.

[robc]

Without spoilering anything (not that it can be, really), how far into the book did the first Hobbit movie get?

Bilbo at least got the ring and escaped, right?

[Randian]

It didn't get past that part where he hears the flute and imagines dancing over the hills for 10 pages.

Fuck the Hobbit sucks.

[robc]

Randian can now be officially ignored on everything, as he has proven to have no taste.

[Randian]

False. Lord of the Rings - OK. Hobbit - boring.

[Auric Demonocles]

It goes a little bit past that point, yes.

[sloopyinca]

Please, nobody answer this.

[sloopyinca]

Nevermind. Fuck!

[Brett L]

No spoilers!

[robc]

Its a sled.

[Auric Demonocles]

...

Bilbo is in it.

[robc]

Bilbo is in it.

And cheats at the riddle game.

[Auric Demonocles]

Technically, Gollum told him to "Ask me a question", not "Ask me a riddle", so he technically he was not cheating. And we all know being technically correct is the best kind of correct.

[Randian]

Even so, it's Gollum's fault for taking it as a riddle.

[robc]

It was written in 1937, IIRC, so if you think it can be spoilered, then something is wrong with you.

[Eduard van Haalen]

Hamlet dies in a swordfight because the blade is poisoned. Oops!

[Kaptious Kristen]

Bruce Willis is dead!

[Restoras]

FOR ROBC EYES ONLY:
I loved the movie though Mr. Jackson did take liberties. I don't think they were too egregious. There was one scene that I absolutely hated but thankfully it was short.

Yes, Biblo gets the Ring, they all escape via the eagles...and from the aerie can see the Lonely Mountain in this distance.

[Auric Demonocles]

Restoras,

Which scene was that?

I realized partway through the movie that it was basically a war movie. Which I was OK with.

[Restoras]

Auric, it was the scene in Rivendell when the dwarves are being serenaded by harp and flute while enjoying a repast of un-dwarvish fare. Completely stupid and unneccesary. Sure it was perhaps meant to cast the differences between the two races very starkly, and maybe humourously, but I think that has been well established by then. Just my two cents.

[ant1sthenes]

The first appearance of the eagles.

[Randian]

I saw the first "9 minutes" during the previews before The Hobbit. It got me excited. I can't wait for the movie to come out. But it seemed pretty clear in the trailer that it was not Khan.

You're excited?!

Ugh.

Anyway...it seems pretty obvious to me that Cumberbatch is playing the Squire of Gothos.

[Warty]

The media loves nothing quite like an Uncle Tom gun owner, and I see Fox News has decided to join TEAM BAN.

our current president, who only now seems to recognize just how much we lost when we allowed the assault weapons ban to lapse eight years and thousands of innocent lives ago.

That's cool, Seamus. Keep on coonin'.

[Auric Demonocles]

There have been thousands of deaths caused by people using guns that were covered under that ban?

[PS]

Seamus? Pretentious name for an American, more likely a transplanted Irish cunt, and they all socialists at heart for some reason.

[John]

That or some hipster pretending to be a gun owner.

[WTF]

I feel a special obligation to speak out now, at last, to demand that this country finally adopt reasonable and effective gun control laws, that we restore the assault weapons ban and that we bring an end to these atrocities

He seems blissfully unaware that the AR used in the killings would not have been subject to the so-called 'assault weapons ban', as CT has thier own ban, and this gun did not have features that would subject it to ban under either the expired federal or current CT standard. What a bloviating idiot.

[The Late P Brooks]

It seems to me that wrapping yourself in a cloak made from the bloody uncured skins of dead children would be uncomfortable, to say the least.

But everybody's doing it, it seems.

[Whiterun Guard]

So Member's Only jackets are making a comeback?

[T]

Strangely enough, yes. I got an ad for them a few weeks ago.

[sloopyinca]

Maybe the fact that only you got one says more about you than society.

[Sevo]

Money for subsidies has to come from somewhere else!
Front page in the Bizz section of the SF Chron:
"Solar power adds to nonusers' costs"
http://www.sfgate.com/business.....124277.php
The Sunday econ columnist is Reich, so you have an idea of the extent of the Chron's knowledge.

[robc]

Requiring repurchase at retail rates instead of wholesale in insane.

At the least, they should be charged a restocking fee.

[robc]

is insane.

[Red Rocks Rockin]

Anne Hathaway becomes more insufferably narcissistic:

Anne Hathaway wowed onlookers when she stepped out on the red carpet of the Les Mis?rables premiere in her strappy leather bondage boots.
But if you wanted to recreate her look at home, you can think again because not only did Anne's killer boots come with a four figure price tag, but they were custom-made with faux leather to keep in line with her Vegan roots.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/fem.....ables.html

LOL--her "Vegan roots"? "YOUR LEATHER FOOTWEAR VIOLATES MY VEGAN CULTURE!!!"

Nuke Hollywood today.

[Certified Public Asskicker]

Fuck Hollywood.

I have no problem with people blowing money on a thousand dollar boots. But don't simultaneously tell me we need to do more for the poor and middle class. How about you lead by example and wear some practical footwear.

[PS]

I didn't know Naugahyde had gotten so pricey.

[Red Rocks Rockin]

Hell, she could have gone to any sex shop and gotten vinyl boots for about 1/10 the price.

[John]

Sorry Ann, even four figure boots and flashing your vagina doesn't mean you have any acting ability.

When are her 15 minutes going to end?

[Mickey Rat]

When she stops looking cute. Going vegan will only accelerate that process.

[Killazontherun]

She's quite the self righteous prick:

"We've seen a lot of you lately," Lauer quipped as he opened the segment with the actress, who was there to talk about her performance in "Les Miserables."

Lauer was referring to a moment on Monday night that Anne is likely trying to forget, when she hopped out of a car at the "Les Mis" premiere and flashed photographers sans underwear.

"I'd be happy to stay home," an embarrassed Hathaway said. "But the film?

"It was obviously an unfortunate incident," she continued. "It kind of made me sad on two accounts. One was that I was very sad that we live in an age when someone takes a picture of another person in a vulnerable moment and rather than delete it--and do the decent thing--sells it. And I'm sorry that we live in a culture that commodifies sexuality of unwilling participants, which brings us back to 'Les Mis,' that's what my character is, she is someone who is forced to sell sex to benefit her child because she has nothing and there's no social safety net.

"Yeah so let's get back to 'Les Mis,'" the actress concluded.

I'm sorry, but did Matt Lauer make you do a public event and leave your underwear at home? Poor baby, you're just like the malnourished waif you play in the movie, and now you too are a victim of society.

[The Late P Brooks]

"Solar power adds to nonusers' costs"

Wait, whut????!!!!

[Matrix]

"The Gun Lobby doesn't care about your family, your rights, or your life."

But gun grabbers do? Fuck you, assholes! You want to take away people's rights and take away their ability to defend their lives and their families... And you put your trust in a government to protect you? You're a fucking joke! The 20th Century is rife with governments murdering their own people... the people they were supposed to protect. So fuck you for trying to take away my right to defend myself, my family, and my rights. Drink molten lead and throw yourselves into a ditch. We'd be better off without you bleeding heart dumb fuck statist pansies!

[KMA Too]

Did anyone else notice the link just below the article entitled "Best Fried Chicken in the U.S."?

Could that be a bit of subconscious self-loathing on the Root's part?

[Tulpa (LAOL-PA)]

Dick's sucks. Go Gander.

[Syd Henderson]

Nothing on Daniel Inouye's death? World War II Medal of Honor winner, long term congressman and senator and third in line to succeed Obama if something should happen. Another link broken. I'm glad Ken Burns interviewed him for "The War."