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  1. Kim Kardashian’s visit to Bahrain sparked riots.

    Your new Secretary of State.


      1. It isn’t the time stamp, it’s just that FoE has paid off Tucille. Probably offered to buy 20,000 ecopies of High Desert BBQ or whatnot.

        1. mmmm… High Dessert BBQ

        2. Is it any worse than Doherty’s book?

          1. Well the sex scenes are much worse than the ones in Doherty’s book.

            1. Sex scenes are terrible in any and all media, outside of pornos.

              1. (whooooosh)

          2. I thought it was quite good actually.

            1. Which one? Radicals for Capitalism was great and so was Gun Control On Trial. I’m sure the Ron Paul book was good too and the Burning Man one. Basically, I doubt Ted actually read any of them.

      2. You may not like the answer… rumor has it that the seconds portion of the comment date is where Suki has been stuck for the last year. Best to leave that gate closed.

        1. I shudder at the thought. You’re right.

          1. Ok, then where is hord lord and majesty MNG? He sin’t with VikingMoose by the lake is he?

            Or was he banished to “the thread that shall not be named?”

    2. The average IQ in the Persian Gulf dropped 30 points overnight.

      1. In their defense, it’s easy to mistake her for a goat.

        Safe for work, but not for your gag reflex.

        1. Something is wrong with you.

        2. You and I both know that you would totally hit it.

          1. With a shovel, preferably. A keen shot in the occiput should do it.

            1. ^this.

              1. I just don’t believe you.

        3. Egads! We have a goat that looks just that picture who we call “Saddlebags”. Maybe we should change her name to Kim.

  2. Kim Kardashian’s visit to Bahrain sparked riots.

    Don’t you mean sparkled riots?

  3. That fiscal cliff thing?

    can we stop pretending that Congress is taking this seriously?

    1. And we all know how it’s going to play out since they just did this a year ago. Or maybe Obama seizes complete control of the government this time.

      1. He’s actually proposing that Congress give up its authority over the debt limit, so he’s definitely working that way.

        He’s also asking for a $50BB infrastructure bank slush fund that would be under his control, which is also moving spending authority from Congress to the President.

        1. But remember, Obamas re-election gave him a mandate to raise taxes. So obviously, the voters don’t know or don’t care that the Constitution gave the House sole authority to control the governmental purs. Otherwise, the usual suspects would be pointing out that the election maintaining GOP control of the House was an obvious mandate to cut spending.

    2. They are taking it seriously, a crisis is a great time to sneak through their own little personnel boondoggles.

    3. can we stop pretending that Congress is taking this seriously?

      Have they left on a three week vacation yet?

  4. …a civil libertarian adviser to the inquiry cautions that forcing the media into some regulatory scheme is actually illegal.

    Legislators can’t be bound by laws. The system would break down.

  5. Yesterday I found out that a friend of 15 years has pancreatic cancer. Maybe 1-3 years(?) left.

    He was a local guitarist/singer who led several local bands. You can hear some of his early output here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w1H9AfvXozQ

    Of course this is making me question my own mortality…

    1. A cousin of mine just got diagnosed with brain cancer over the weekend. Between 6 months and 2 years. πŸ™

      1. That’s a tough road to walk.

      2. Sorry to hear. Fuck Cancer in its face.

        1. Irrumare cancer.

      3. My wife survived a non-cancerous brain tumor three years ago and one of my best friends is currently recovering from brain cancer.

        I know it’s hard, but keep your hopes up. Life after is possible.

    2. That sucks, Lord. Papa Drax just matrix-dodged Liver Cancer death by getting a transplant, but I suspect that the pancreas is different in this regard…

      As a failure of a musician, I feel for the guy…

    3. Of course this is making me question my own mortality…

      One day you’re going to die, just like everyone else.

      1. Well, I’m glad I’m not the only one who thought that.

    4. Since being immortal leads to a 100% certainty of ‘eternal’ immobilization, be glad you’re mortal.

      1. Also, there can be only one, and who wants to deal with that.

      2. Never thought about it that way before. You’re right, that would suck.

    5. I used to play an SNES game called Illusion of Gaia, and one of the subplot points was that there was this guy who played high-stakes, life-on-the-line games for big money because he had a terminal illness and wanted to take care of his family.

      I think that’s what I would do.

      1. At last! Somebody else who has played that game. I loved it.

        1. Yes! I’ve been through it three or four times. I did the Red Jewel thing once, because what a drag it is.

      2. I figure I’d just open a meth lab in a trailer somewhere.

        1. Damn – that is a better reference, but the guy from the game made more money right away, and you better get all you can get.

    6. That sucks. Hopefully he doesn’t end up being as much of a Debbie Downer as someone I know on Facebook. Every post is about how much having pancreatic cancer sucks, and how we should all feel sorry for him because we don’t have it.

      It’s like wealth envy, but for a sick person instead of a poor person. Call “health envy”.

      1. at least on the FB post, he seemed rather upbeat about it: saying he’s fought againt nazi skinheads, traveled to Europe, raised three girls, done hundreds of shows, and even released a few albums. So he felt that he’s “made his mark” on life.

        He also wants to get the old crew together for one last big drinking binge.

        1. The bad part is the open timeline.

          If started going all “End of Life”, I could do it for a year, maybe, but three and I think people are going to start to get tired of me having “Final Celebrations” and whatnot.

        2. He Godwinned his own end of life FB post? That takes serious chops to pull off.

          1. It’s not Godwin if you are actually talking about Nazis.

      2. “Call “health envy”.”

        10 years ago a doc told me in 5 years I would be in a chair, and 3 more I would be in the grave. Fuck her.

        I am still hiking the woods with a chainsaw, rifle, water jug, etc……and if you read the comments this weekend you know I just bought a new rifle (optimism).

        A few months ago I went to cut my mother’s grass around 7am. The neighborhood she lives in has gone waaaaay downhill since she bought the house. Across the street from her are some HUD apts. Every day there are half a dozen to a dozen men in the prime of their life sitting in the yard all day long drinking out of paper bags.

        That day while I was cutting the grass one of them yelled at me ” hey, it be too hot for that!”. My reply? ” What the fuck are you doing up so early?” No reply…they got up and went inside.

        Every time I go to her house now they all seem to disappear.

        I understand health envy, but I dont engage in it. As I said downthread, be the first kind.

        1. Suthenboy, what kind of rifle did you get?

    7. Of course this is making me question my own mortality…

      I’m pretty sure we’re all going to die, so there’s not much question in my mind.

      1. well, yeah… but not at age 40 (his age). I’m actually a little older than that.

        1. You can never be completely sure that any given day won’t be the last in your life. Just roll with it and enjoy yourself the best you can.

        2. Wait, so he’s only 40 and he fought “Nazi skinheads”? I don’t follow, but more power to him.

          1. There were a small, but determined cadre of Nazi skinheads that would show up at punk shows in Indiana, Ohio, and Michigan. This was back in the mid 1980’s into the early 1990’s. The Nazi’s would hang around and try to recruit weak minds to their cause. Their “closing pitch” would be to go into the mosh pit and start stomping/punching people. Then the punks would start punching back, and a brawl would ensue.

            Eventually, when Nazi skins would gather to publically rally with KKK groups and other White Power groups, they would often be met with opposition by local punk rockers. These confrontations often ended up in brawls as well.

            I believe I saw The Krabs in Cincinatti at Sudsy Malone’s. This was probably October/November 1992.

            1. that would be the time that the Krabs were playing. They’re reformed, if you want to see a bunch of middle-aged dudes playing ‘n’ singing.

              1. I left Indiana many years ago, and now live in Long Beach, CA. Maybe I’ll catch them on their West Coast swing? πŸ˜‰

    8. “Of course this is making me question my own mortality…”

      I am very sorry to hear about your friend.

      Do not question your own mortality. It is a certainty. Make peace with it and remember this;

      There are two kinds of people in the world and they both make the world a better place. The first kind because they are in it. The second kind when they leave it.

      Make a deliberate effort every day to be the first kind.

    9. A few years ago my nephew was diagnosed with a brain tumor at the age of 18. His attitude was: “Let’s not be depressed, let’s have as much fun and adventure as we can squeeze into the time I have left.” And he did. What a year!

      He was a brilliant student and electric violinist in a local rock/salsa band. His parents took him to CA for a vacation to visit relatives. My daughter took him to local college with her during his chemo treatments (he was not enrolled, but they welcomed him). We had a party at his house every weekend with dozens of friends and relatives. Hundreds of people brought food and drink and smoke.

      He arranged a final concert for his band at his college (Villanova) and at least 100 family and friends came from OH as well as hundreds of local friends and classmantes. We have it all on video. He passed eight weeks later.

      For most of us it was the best year of our lives.

      That’s the way you do it.

      1. Thanks for sharing that, BigT.

  6. …economists bet the economy slipped in November, as capital spending slipped and Superstorm Sandy mucked-up the works.

    Now that the election is over they’ve started openly expecting bad things?

    1. Obama’s re-election didn’t muck up anything?

    2. the Sandy thing is somewhere between tragic and laughable. Staten Island is practically third world and it’s as if the story does not exist outside of a few local news outlets. Contrast to Katrina, where NOLA was turned into a permanent encampment.

      1. There wasn’t much in the way of national coverage of flooding in Kentucky almost two years ago. The difference there is, from what I gathered, Kentucky was just fine with that.

      2. Like the floods in the midwest are ignored every few years? I am sensing somewhat of a pattern…

      3. While places like Mississippi were largely ignored.

    3. It’s Bush’s fault!!

  7. Republican leader John Boehner said Sunday he was “flabbergasted” by Treasury secretary Tim Geithner plan to save the nation

    Flabbergasted means brought to tears, right?

    1. Flabbergast is a wizard from Middle Earth?

      1. I think he’s the purple wizard.

        1. Sauruman the White
          Gandalf the Grey
          Radagast the Brown
          Flabbergast the Purple

          Yep, that is correct.

          1. Nah he must have been one of the 2 Blue Wizards who disappeared into the east without anyone really learning anything about them, but they actually existed in the Tolkien lore.

            1. Saruman knows but isn’t telling.

    2. Old white guys get flabbergasted so easy. The guy probably showed him a presentation on “one of them new fangled eye-pads” and that’s what actually flabbergasted him.

    3. When I saw that part of the plan was “Allow Obama to arbitrarily raise the debt limit via executive order”, I admit that my gast was flabbered as well.

  8. Chart of the Week: Obama’s Fiscal Cliff Plan Has $4 of Tax Hikes to $1 of Cuts

    In one of heaven’s sweeter ironies, President Obama today launched the defense of his fiscal cliff proposal at a factory that makes?tinker toys. The setting perfectly reflected the Administration’s level of seriousness about the budget.

    The “plan,” presented to Republican leaders yesterday, consists of $1.6 trillion in tax hikes over 10 years and unspecified spending cuts that “could total” $400 billion over the same period. So estimating liberally, the package consists of at least $4 of tax increases to $1 of spending cuts?and that’s if the promised spending reductions do materialize (which is far from certain). This is the Obama definition of “a balanced plan.”

    1. For the record, the factory does not make Tinkertoys, it makes K’nex, a building toy that is way cooler than Tinkertoys. (See what you learn by having children?)

    2. Also, totally unwarranted cheap shot against the toy factory. Hey, Heritage, where do you think future engineers come from?

      Now if it was a factory which manufacture My Little Pony dolls…

      1. Future engineers are made in tinker toy factories?

      2. Um, I hang with many engineers and a disturbingly and surprisingly high number are Bronies…

    3. Cue the “gee, don’t you wish you agreed to that $10 in spending cuts for every $1 in tax increases deal* when you had the chance?” nonsense.

      *hypothetical debate question that was fantastical even for hypothetical debate questions

  9. Sooooo…Afghanistan…

    Why the fuck can’t people leave that hell-hole already?

    1. What people, the Afghans? I’m betting some of them would really like to.

      1. Gambling is against the laws of the prophet (pbuh)!

        GET HIM!

        1. Did you mean gamboling?

      2. Maybe we could have an exchange program. For every military person or contractor we send over, we give a green card to a random Afghani citizen.

        1. I’m thinking we could settle them in the Northern Virginia area for starters. Maybe a satellite community near Beverly Hills.

          1. I’m thinking downtown DC, so they can see American landmarks like the Capitol Building and the White House everyday which should instill in them a sense of appreciation for this nation, and inspire them to do great things.

            1. I know I’m inspired every day. Inspired to get the fuck out of here as soon as possible.

              1. I lasted there for nearly a year in my yute. Today, I can barely tolerate an evening soaking up Georgetown.

      3. I think I meant to say “Us” as in Americans/NATO/Westerners or whatever, but I hate lumping myself in with people when I am not really involved one way or the other.

        As for the Afghans, they can do whatever they want as far as I’m concerned including coming to this rotting corpse of a nation.

        1. I know what you meant. I intentionally mistook your response to provide a little humor. But there are troops that need something to do and drones that need to be used, you know how it goes.

    2. Wall up the entrance to the Konegal valley. That’s where all this shit comes from. It’s a box canyon, so it should be well within the capabilities of the local Afghans.

  10. Ever since I decided not to buy the Maybach, I have a lot more walking around money. I’m pretty sure I’m not going to buy those ten thousand acres I had my eye on, which will easily allow me to spend six weeks in Hong Kong.

    1. Why not share/spread your wealth? I need a new tractor and I swear I am shiftless, shameless and totally lazy- in other words the perfect person to receive unmerited wealth.

      1. No, give it to me! I’m even lazier. I can’t even think of an example to prove how much lazier I am is how lazy I am.

      2. What Tim said. I need a new guitar amp…well, I don’t need one per se, I just want one. Because.

        1. wants, needs…what’s the dif?

      3. Don’t believe him P Brooks! He wants a tractor… do work with, no doubt! Me on the other hand, I would take whatever wealth you bestow on me and spend it on lottery tickets and scratch offs. You know, reinvest it!

  11. DIA sending hundreds more spies overseas

    he Pentagon will send hundreds of additional spies overseas as part of an ambitious plan to assemble an espionage network that rivals the CIA in size, U.S. officials said.

    The project is aimed at transforming the Defense Intelligence Agency, which has been dominated for the past decade by the demands of two wars, into a spy service focused on emerging threats and more closely aligned with the CIA and elite military commando units.

    1. So they are going to make alternate spy system so they can more closely align with the CIA????. Sounds more like competing and empire building then aligning.

      1. Why not give the Culinary Institute of America a shot at being spies? They can’t do any worse than what we’ve got already.

        1. Plus, wet work would be so easy. Slip a little fugu liver into the pate and the whole dinner party is out.

        2. Yeah and they probably still have some training from Julia Childs, who was a real life spy during WW2 floating around too.

  12. Beggar who got free shoes from a cop fears for his safety.


    1. If that cop is *really* kind-hearted he’ll give the beggar a pistol, too.

      1. Why not just shoot the poor guy already?

  13. Ross Douhat: More Babies, Please

    Today’s babies are tomorrow’s taxpayers and workers and entrepreneurs, and relatively youthful populations speed economic growth and keep spending commitments affordable. Thanks to our relative demographic dynamism, the America of 50 years hence may not only have more workers per retiree than countries like Japan and Germany, but also have more than emerging powers like China and Brazil.

    If, that is, our dynamism persists. But that’s no longer a sure thing. American fertility plunged with the stock market in 2008, and it hasn’t recovered. Last week, the Pew Research Center reported that U.S. birthrates hit the lowest rate ever recorded in 2011, with just 63 births per 1,000 women of childbearing age. (The rate was 71 per 1,000 in 1990.) For the first time in recent memory, Americans are having fewer babies than the French or British.

    1. The horrendous burden of future debt/taxes and the associated horrors of the embiggening (it’s a word…) state are exactly why I am unsure if the Destroyer should sire whelps. Well that shitting kids would really cramp the style of my bordello of whores.

      Are these guys going to force me to fuck fat chicks sans condom to “Save America?” And then force me to raise said unwanted bastards?

      1. it’s a perfectly cromulent word.

    2. Young people suffer high debts and low (or no) pay. They’re following the old conservative trope of “can’t feed ’em, don’t breed ’em”.

    1. “If Jovan Belcher didn’t possess a gun, he and Kasandra Perkins would both be alive today.”

      Go tell that to O.J. Simpson’s wife, you stupid liberal schmucks. Oh yeah, you can’t, because she’s dead, carved up with a knife like a Thanksgiving turkey.

      Watching that little midget Costas exploit this horrible incident like that was sickening. NBC is some of the absolute lowest scum of the earth.

      1. That was similar to my first thought. Do liberals really think a world where all violence is based on the criminal’s physical abilities will be better for women and children?

        1. And let’s also not forget about Rae Carruth’s girlfriend Cherica Adams. That piece of shit didn’t even kill her himself, he hired a hitman to do his dirty work for him.

    2. and RCP clearly leaves out the part where Costas is pulling from Jason Whitlock opinion piece. Costas is certainly a self-righteous blowhard but let’s cast aspersions where they should be aimed – at a newspaper columnist taking the intellectually lazy way out.

      1. A newspaper column is a much more appropriate forum for discussion of politics than a football halftime show.

        Also, Costas said he agreed with the column and that’s why he was quoting it.

        1. on second (and more careful) reading, I stand corrected. Costas is even more self-righteous than originally thought.

      2. If Al Sharpton was a sportswriter, he would be able to sue Jason Whitlock for stealing his schtick. Whitlock has gone full retard since leaving the KC Star for Fox Sports.

        1. And as if the silliness about guns isn’t enough, at the end of the column Whitlock implies that all of us are capable of doing what Belcher did. And to that my response is: speak for yourself, asshole.

          1. Whitlock basically said that none of use can possibly know when the evil we all have inside could bubble to the surface and make us shoot other people. At no point does he acknowledge that, maybe just maybe, there was something mentally wrong with Belcher.

          2. Any of us could be a rapist as well – so what to do? Castrate everyone?

            The womens could all be hookers – off to the nunnery!

            1. Well if you listen to the Jezebel crowd all of us already are rapists.

    3. If Kasandra Perkins had a gun, she’d be alive today. Also if she was from Krypton.

      1. Also if she was from Krypton.

        Why limit the options? An adamantine skeleton and a healing factor could have saved her, a gamma radiated hide could have saved her, a silver surfboard provided by Galactus could have saved her…

    4. wareagle’s observation that Shitlock took the intellectually lazy way out is spot on.

      These kinds of incidents don’t occur because people happen to own guns–they happen to due to dysfunctions, social or individual, that are completely separate from the ownership of firearms. You don’t hear about high murder rates in high-trust, low-scale societies for this exact reason.

      By arguing that all handguns should be banned, these morons are arguing that our society as a whole is so dysfunctional that we’ve become an inherent danger to one another. They’re arguing for the imposition of a police state.

  14. Clever graffiti!

  15. Ali Larter is still hot!
    Even if she shops at Whole Foods.

    1. Nothing’s wrong with Whole Foods (except their prices). The CEO was against this “Affordable Healthcare Act” shit from day one and said as much. The whiny cunts who originally thought he was some granola commune Jesus spat out their organic manure-laden wheat grass in righteous disgust, but still shop at Whole Foods today. Because they are unprincipled fucks. In a way, I hope the AHA either puts companies like Whole Foods out of business or forces them to adjust their business model (to a crappier Wal-Marty model) in order to deal with the malformed invisible shit that legislation is going to take on us. Maybe then some of these unprincipled fucks would realize that their pipe dreams are just open flowing radioactive sewers in reality.

      1. you are asking the left to admit that its ideology could be at fault…unpossible.

      2. Nothing’s wrong with Whole Foods (except their prices).

        Not always:


        1. When I had a Whole Foods within shopping distance I would go there to buy some things in bulk. Herbs and spices especially.

        2. Yeah I was going off of old personal anecdote derived information. Buying uncured bacon anywhere usually skews one’s perception of prices.

          I still don’t trust Harris Teeter, Wegman’s, or Trader Joe’s in this regard though. But the former 2 usually have a good beer selection so it’s a wash.

          1. I think your problem is that you drink beer. :-p

      3. Not entirely OT: If you think you can dodge the Obamacare requirements by making sure you have fewer than 50 employees working 40 hours a week, you better think again.

  16. As Companies Seek Tax Deals, Governments Pay High Price

    A Times investigation has examined and tallied thousands of local incentives granted nationwide and has found that states, counties and cities are giving up more than $80 billion each year to companies. The beneficiaries come from virtually every corner of the corporate world, encompassing oil and coal conglomerates, technology and entertainment companies, banks and big-box retail chains.
    A portrait arises of mayors and governors who are desperate to create jobs, outmatched by multinational corporations and short on tools to fact-check what companies tell them. Many of the officials said they feared that companies would move jobs overseas if they did not get subsidies in the United States.

    1. The beneficiaries come from virtually every corner of the corporate world…

      No they don’t.

      They always go to large businesses and unfairly disadvantage small businesses and new start ups.

      It’s completely retarded that they keep economically destructive taxes and regulations in place, and then routinely give waivers to large businesses neutering any theoretical beneficial impact that the tax and regulations would have had, leaving them only as punishment of small and new businesses.

  17. Gary Busey is still, well, Gary Busey.

    1. Best Busey Quote:

      “If you put that straight jacket on me, I’m going to pull your endocrine system out of your body and make a pack out of it.”

      There’s probably a youtube of it somewhere. HI-LARIOUS.

    1. Funny, isn’t it, that gold prices stayed essentially flat even though sales set a record.

      The downside to the gold market is that it is the most heavily manipulated market on the planet.

      1. Is it? I thought diamonds held that honor?

      2. More than silver?

        1. Not diamonds, I don’t think, even though there is a cartel that keeps prices up.

          Silver? Maybe, but if so its because its a relatively small market.

          The difference with gold is that the market is manipulated by central banks and their butt-buddies at “bullion” banks that hold large stocks of gold (maybe, nobody really knows, although they claim to). Lately, the Western central banks have been sponsoring short raids on gold to keep the price down, as a higher price would reveal the extent of their fiat currency debasement.

          An increasing number of other central banks have been buying gold. Some banks capping, and others putting a floor, explains the range trade in gold the last year.

          1. The silver market is 10-20 times the size of the gold market.

      3. Funny, isn’t it, that gold prices stayed essentially flat even though sales set a record.

        Not really.

        We’re you expecting the price to fall on record sales?

        1. Its funny, no, that it means exactly the same to say “record purchases”?

          And we’re talking physical gold, here. The funny thing about gold is that the price isn’t based on supply v demand in the usual way. The supply of new gold has been pretty constant for quite some time. You’d think a commodity that wasn’t being consumed and had a constant source of new supply would be declining in price.

          Physical gold is the very odd commodity that, over long time frames (a) isn’t consumed and (b) sees supply from current owners actually dry up as the price goes up.

          I was under the impression that the silver market was smaller, but I can’t get a quick answer. Got a link, VG?

  18. The Crisis of American Self-Government
    Harvey Mansfield, Harvard’s ‘pet dissenter,’ on the 2012 election, the real cost of entitlements, and why he sees reason for hope.

    But Democrats’ refusal to address the future in positive terms, he adds, also reveals the party’s intent to create “an entitlement or welfare state that takes issues off the bargaining table and renders them above politics.” The end goal, Mr. Mansfield worries, is to sideline the American constitutional tradition in favor of “a practical constitution consisting of progressive measures the left has passed that cannot be revoked. And that is what would be fixed in our political system?not the Constitution.”

    It is a project begun at the turn of the previous century by “an alliance of experts and victims,” Mr. Mansfield says. “Social scientists and political scientists were very much involved in the foundation of the progressive movement. What those experts did was find ways to improve the well-being of the poor, the incompetent, all those who have the right to vote but can’t quite govern their own lives. And still to this day we see in the Democratic Party the alliance between Ph.D.s and victims.”

  19. Well today is the first day at work with the whiten-noise generator. Sounds like the toilet’s running.

    1. whiten-noise


    2. Sounds like the toilet’s running.

      Are you sure it isn’t? Better go check.

    3. Stop working in the bathroom.

      1. …why some of my best work…

        1. Management Development Program.

  20. In particular, Tim Geithner and John Boehner got into it over taxes, on Sunday.

    “Mr. Geithner, considering you couldn’t pay your own taxes properly, why should anybody take anything you say about taxation seriously?”

    That ought to be the first question of every single interview he does.

    1. ^THIS^

      IIRC, one of the commentariat started stamping “Tax Cheat” under Geithner’s signature on dollar bills.

    2. I concur.

      Although my preferred question is:

      “How would your tax plan handle cheaters, such as yourself?”

  21. …Democrats and Republicans are playing chicken as the deadline looms.

    Oh, the leadership already have the tax and spending increases worked out. They just have to wait for Christmas to hold the break over the members’ heads to force them to vote for it.

    1. If I were President, I’d use my power to call Congress into session to have them meet on Christmas.

      1. And if I were Congress I would use my powers to turn you into a bucket of gravy!

        Wait. I mean if I was Dr. Strange or the Spectre.

        1. Mmmm, gravy.

      2. If I were Boehner, I’d send a bill to the Senate that left the current tax structure in place and cut spending by $1.5 trillion this year.

  22. Police say Kansas City Chiefs linebacker Javon Belcher killed his girlfriend, then drove to Arrowhead Stadium and killed himself in front of his coach and general manager.

    Does anyone else notice that in these types of stories, most media sources reporting on it state that they do not want to release the names before family members have been notified, but then every time they report the breaking notice, they let slip more and more details? It started out as just a Chiefs player. Then he was a 25-year-old. Then he was meeting with the GM and coach in the parking lot. Then he was a defensive player.

    It’s like either the family already knows, or they can easily put the pieces together from this trail of breadcrumbs being thrown out.

    1. Considering Belcher murdered his girlfriend right in front of his own mother, not sure that the family notification was stalled at all.

  23. Whale watchers looking the wrong way.

    1. Those are great pics. I went whale watching of the coast of MA several summers ago and the whales were breaching the surface like mad. It was extaordinary.

      1. We did that a couple of years ago. I saw as many whales out in a friend of a friend’s tuna boat as I saw on the whale watching trip. They were much closer to us on the tuna boat though. It’s amazing when you’re on a 30-foot boat and a fricking WHALE broaches 30 yards off the beam. They got amazingly close to us.

        We basically saw no tuna that day thoug.

    2. Funny story from the Navy.

      My CO had been an F-14 Pilot before becoming a nuke. For reasons I can’t recall, he was the leader of a two aircraft flight that had flown to Hawaii.

      They took off to return to the carrier, but were told to wait because the carrier wasn’t ready to land planes. So they werere tootling around flying along the Hawaiian coast when they wpied a bunch of huge whales.

      They decided to engage in a bit of whale watching, dropped down to about 3000 feet, with the engines idled made a pass, turning and bleeding off speed.

      Then having seen enough, they throttled back up and climbed away. Just before leveling his wings, my CO saw a little boat but thought nothing of it.

      Till about a week later when he got hauled into the squadron CO’s office and was chewed out by a Cdr waving a newspaper with a huge lurid headline about Navy Jets harassing Peaceful Innocent Gentle Whales. The whale watchers had taken lots of pictures, and with their zoom lenses they had managed to take pictures of planes more than half a mile in the sky that made them look very close and told a fanciful story of the jets making bombing runs at extremely low attitude which “scared” the whales.

      1. Maybe they should have bombed the whales.

        1. Pave the whales!

        2. I am a fan of shaving them myself.

        3. Fuck that…strafing run with teh 20mm cannon!

  24. George Will: Colleges have free speech on the run

    In 2007, Keith John Sampson, a middle-aged student working his way through Indiana University-Purdue University Indianapolis as a janitor, was declared guilty of racial harassment. Without granting Sampson a hearing, the university administration ? acting as prosecutor, judge and jury ? convicted him of “openly reading [a] book related to a historically and racially abhorrent subject.”

    “Openly.” “Related to.” Good grief.

    The book, “Notre Dame vs. the Klan,” celebrated the 1924 defeat of the Ku Klux Klan in a fight with Notre Dame students. But some of Sampson’s co-workers disliked the book’s cover, which featured a black-and-white photograph of a Klan rally. Someone was offended, therefore someone else must be guilty of harassment.

    1. did it cross anyone else’s attention that the university targeted one of its employees for……reading.

      1. Holy shit.

    2. old story is old.

      I think reason has covered this multiple times. Not that it doesnt bear repreating, just wondering why Will is so late.

      1. It’s just an introduction to a wider theme.

    3. Jesus. The comment section on that thing makes me want to kill myself.

      ‘Colleges are private institutions. That’s different than free speech. People choose to go to them. They can control the speech. If you don’t like the control, don’t go there. If you don’t like what’s preached at the alter don’t go to the church.’

      The student in question was working his way through a public school. Not a private school. A university that is directly taxpayer funded. How in the world can someone be stupid enough not to think that this is a free speech issue?

      1. I’m sure the commenter would feel the same about professors starting every day with an in class prayer.

  25. two items from my hobbies:

    a blog entry about building the 1625 amplifier

    a new Project Communique song:

  26. Homeland Security Has Spent $430 Million on Radios Its Employees Don’t Know How to Use

    DHS has spent $430 million over the past nine years to provide radios tuned to a common, secure channel to 123,000 employees across the country. Problem is, no one seems to know how to use them.

    Only one of 479 DHS employees surveyed by the inspector general’s office was actually able to use the common channel, according to the report. Most of those surveyed ? 72 percent ? didn’t even know the common channel existed. Another 25 percent knew the channel existed but weren’t able to find it; 3 percent were able to find an older common channel, but not the current one.

    1. I would be cheaper for them to take over the I Anus Radio app.

      1. …Well that one can’t be unseen.

    2. I guess I can stop worrying about the DHS taking over the country after they receive a secret radio signal.

      1. It will be a tweet….

        1. Executive order 66 tweet

  27. A little while ago, the boss of Waste Management was on Bloomberg.
    You’ll never guess what he wants: a government provided infrastructure to fill his privately owned garbage trucks with natural gas. Because actually investing your own money for capital improvements is totally un-American, apparently.

    1. I’ll bet you a fiver that they already have a reclamation plant set up too, to capture the methane form the rotting garbage. Which they’ll then sell to this now national infrastructure or something.

      Double-dipping corporatism is good for the economy, ya know.

      1. Saw the same guy interviewed on Mad Money. You nailed it JW.

  28. Kansas dad tries cutting BB from son’s head with utility knife

    A 12-year-old Wichita boy is in protective custody after police say his father tried to remove a BB from his skull with a utility knife.

    No charges have been filed, but The Wichita Eagle reports police want to know why the 57-year-old father waited a day before taking the boy to a hospital.

    1. He would have waited 24 hours in the emergency room anyway.

  29. Japanese Robot Builder Creates RC Transformer

    Kenji Ishida posted a video that shows an RC car that changes into an upright robot and remain fully functional with movable legs and arms. The design requires 22 individual servos to make the transformation happen.


    1. Boring. let me know when he makes the Constructicons, they were kind of cool.

  30. If you want something that’s not a memory hog like the Daily Mail:

    Does anybody still want to eat Chinese food?

    1. Is that any worse than Rocky Mountain Oysters/Calf Fries?

      1. oh… and Lamb fries.

  31. Pope establishes twitter presence (@Pontifex, plus variants in different languages), will answer questions from Twitter users on Dec. 12. Questions to the Pope should be marked with the hashtag #askpontifex.

    Some lucky Vatican official is going to be assigned to go through all the questions and pick out the least sarcastic ones. Good luck with that.

    1. The volume of Cryptonimicon-themed posts will be enough to drive the poor guy batty.

    2. Can he explain the Trinity in only 140 characters?

      1. Three aspects of God, each simple enough for man to understand, unlike the totality.


        1. Wow, we have the Pope posting on Reason!!!!!

          1. First baptist pope?

            1. Second, actually. Benedict XV is the one who came up with the ban on dancing.

        2. Actually, this would be Sabellianism, and thus heresy:


          1. Not necessarily, as even that article points out, that view falls under a number of different names, not all of which are Sabellianism. For example, there is a split on whether God the Son is eternal or didnt come into existence until he took flesh.

            As I pointed out in my 84 characters, the truth is too complex for man to understand.

            1. For example, there is a split on whether God the Son is eternal or didnt come into existence until he took flesh.

              Not in the Catholic Church there isn’t.

              1. I didnt say anything about the Catholic Church, I was referring to the split between Sabellianism and Oneness Pentecostals.

                Both believe in the 3 aspects concept, but disagree on the pre-existence of the son.

                And, personally, I dont see a difference between between believing in 3 eternal person in one God, and 3 eternal aspects in one God, seems like semantic hair splitting to me.

                1. You were trying to guess how the Pope would explain the trinity in less than 140 characters.

                  Seems to me that the Pope’s explanations of Christian dogma might have something to do with the Catholic Church.

                  1. You were trying to guess how the Pope would explain the trinity in less than 140 characters.

                    Not in the 11:16 post you were responding too. I had moved on to a general discussion of the Trinity. Catholicism was no longer a part of the discussion.

                    Seems to me that the Pope’s explanations of Christian dogma might have something to do with the Catholic Church.

                    Not so sure about that either. πŸ™‚

                    1. Stormy Dragon is arguing that every answer the Pope gives will include a pitch for the Catholic Church.

                      Example tweet:

                      Three aspects of God, each simple enough for man to understand, unlike the totality. Go ask your local Priest. Also, send more money.

                2. And of course it’s semantic hairsplitting, but it’s the Catholic Church. They have a heresy based on how many spikes were used to nail Jesus to the cross:


                  1. Thats possibly the stupidest thing Ive ever heard.

                    There is a reason Im a congregationalist protestant.

                  2. The very article you cite says that the guy who made that claim didn’t provide any evidence.

  32. Welcome into the world Reason ?????? Spicer
    Born December 02, 2012
    6lbs 1oz.
    17.5 inch.
    It is still not too late to make a bid for a middle name. We will cut it off at midnight tonight. The last bid was for $210 for either the name Ayn or Justine (our choice).

    So come on and get either the Christmas spirit, the love of giving or some other such concept. Basically, whatever gets you to pull out that checkbook and donate some money to a great cause: the Reason Foundation, while having some life-altering fun while doing so.

    Post your bid on this comment thread,* on our blog (linked through my name) or email ken at kenspicer111@gmail.com.

    *If you’re bidding, Brooksie, just do what you do and one of us will track it down.

      1. Nine minutes of passion for sloopy; nine months of work for Banjos.

        1. Nine minutes? You flatter me, sir. And besides, Kara didn’t have to do shit. She got a c-section, so she just laid there while the surgeons did all the work. A lazy way to deliver a baby, if you ask me.

          1. There was the nine months of construction; you can forgive her taking a break on the ribbon-cutting ceremony as it were.

            1. ^This, you jackass.
              I don’t remember you puking every fucking day. Not to even mention the wtf insane water retention in the lower half of my body that made it nearly impossible to walk.

              1. You’re looking for sympathy in the wrong place, girlfriend.

                1. She is right, though. With all the water retention, she looked like Kim Kardashian, which means she looked like a goat.

              2. Blah, stop whining about doing what you were made for.

              3. It’s nice to see the hormones are still raging….

                1. That’s not raging hormones. It’s nine months of being deprived alcohol.

                  1. That’s not raging hormones. It’s nine months of being deprived alcohol.

                    You poor dear! I might suggest easing back into the enjoyment of the grape instead of going whole hog when able. I hope they used a Pfannenstiel on you as well. If it’s any consolation, you do have all my my sympathies WRT your gestational discomfort.

                    1. GM,

                      Where do you stand on the American Doc vs British Doc views on alcohol during pregnancy. Seems the British/Euro view is “drinking a little bit … dont sweat it”, while American doctors seem to freak out at the concept.

                    2. I think American docs are back onto the “just a little bit” line of thinking. At least that’s what I last read.

                    3. As three of my friends had babies last year, I dont think so. At least none of their doctors were in on it.

                      A think the docs acknowledge the studies and may not make a big deal out of it if a woman is drinking responsibly, but they ADVISE zero alcohol.

                    4. Where do you stand on the American Doc vs British Doc views on alcohol during pregnancy.

                      My MO on the subject is during the first trimester, because when the most amount of base fetal development is occuring, and the most susceptible to defects, I recommend holding off on alcohol consumption until the third trimester. However, even so, light alcohol consumption can (and does) exacerbate gestational diabetes. I’m not a total alcohol abstinence during pregnancy-type, but I don’t endorse “normal” drinking patterns either.

                      Seems the British/Euro view is “drinking a little bit … dont sweat it”, while American doctors seem to freak out at the concept.

                      This is true, and I have been talking with NHS doctors here, who are on medical intervention ture and as guests of UKR, and we were discussing this very subject. The time that is most critical to avoid alcohol is the first trimester; second, a glass of wine every now and then, meaning no more than once every two weeks, one serving, won’t cause lasting damage in most healthy patients unless otherwise contraindicated; and third trimester, probably one to two servings a week, with the same caveats.

                      FAS is a something of a problem in the UKR, since booze is the most commonly abused drug here, and I have seen the effects here already, and I have also in The States.

                    5. “…probably one to maybetwo servings a week…” is what I meant to type. Sorry about that. Two servings of 8% ABV, 8 oz per week is probably pushing it. It really does depend on the patient and the HX and circumstances endemic to the case.

                      As three of my friends had babies last year, I dont think so. At least none of their doctors were in on it.

                      I would be pissed (angry, not drunk) if I was not told about what your friends did, as the physician does accept the liability of the case and has a right to know about that.

                    6. I would be pissed (angry, not drunk) if I was not told about what your friends did

                      I think I worded that wrong. None of my friends drank any, that I know of.

                      Well, one of them was really drunk at New Years, but she didnt know she was pregnant yet.

                      I meant that none of their doctors were into the British advice.

                    7. “Well, one of them was really drunk at New Years, but she didnt know she was pregnant yet.”

                      And she wasn’t until later that night.

                  2. Unless you’re nursing (…must resist snide remark…) you can jump right back on that horse. A bottle of small batch bourbon would do for a starter.

                    1. Oops. I defer to the Doc then. Although “easing back” is for girlies.

          2. And besides, Kara didn’t have to do shit. She got a c-section, so she just laid there while the surgeons did all the work.

            I can’t wait to read what happens when Banjos sees this comment. πŸ˜‰

          3. A lazy way to deliver a baby, if you ask me.

            Time to brush off a rarely used Iron Law:

            “The less you know about something, the easier is looks”

            Tozhe, vsjo prekras’no vami! -)

            1. Hey, until you’ve been th…oh, wait. Nevermind.

            2. Look, I’ll make a valid comparison. Having a c-section is like getting a bellman to take your bags to your room and put everything in the closet for you, while a vaginal birth would be like taking a bag of cloth and a sewing machine up to your room, making your own clothes and hanging them up.

              The only difference is the level of tipping.

              1. The only difference is the level of tipping.

                Indeed. The level of tip was what got you two into this blessed event from the get-go, no? (snicker)

                Also, be thankful Banjos didn’t have an episiotomy, or your couch duty would be even longer. -D

                1. Put an extra stitch in there for me, doc!

          4. IT” Dammit! -D

          5. Congrats again, you wacky kids.

            When does the video go up?

            1. Of the conception?

              1. That works too, with the right lighting and soundtrack.

    1. Are we limiting this to just the alphabet, or are unicode characters permitted?

      1. congrats!

        I vote for Bastiat.

      2. Unnicode only. Didn’t some shithead try to name their kid a #hashtag recently?

        1. What about binary?

          1. Sorry, that was only going to work if we had twins.

            1. 01010111 01101000 01100101 01101110 00100000 01101001 00100000 01100111 01110010 01101111 01110111 00100000 01110101 01110000 00100000 01001001 00100000 01110111 01100001 01101110 01110100 00100000 01110100 01101111 00100000 01100010 01100101 00100000 01100001 00100000 01110011 01101111 01100011 01101001 01100001 01101100 01101001 01110011 01110100 would be so cute, though!

              1. Not a cop?

          2. I seem to recall some scifi thing on the radio back in the 80s where there were two android named Offonoff and Onoffon.

        2. if it were a boy, Cliff comes to mind in what will be memory of our fiscal situation though I suppose nowadays gender specificity of names is probably a brand of othering.

          I like Alexis, but both mine turned out to be boys so it never got used. And congratulations on the baby.

          1. I like Alexis, but both mine turned out to be boys so it never got used.

            That’s funny. We had a girl and used Alexis for her middle name.

    2. Congrats Banjos & sloopy!

    3. Congratultions!

      I hope all involved are healthy.

    4. Omedetou Gozaimasu!

    5. My most heartfelt congratulations to your family!

      1. I’m sorely tempted to pony up the money for this. But then they’d have to send her to public school just for the joy of trashing their database.

    6. Welcome into the world Reason ?????? Spicer

      Can you actually name her “??????”? I’d like to see that on the birth certificate.

    7. Congratulations! Wonderful news. Hope she’s doing well.

    8. Congratulations you guys! Hope all is well and much joy to the new family…

    9. Clearly the middle name should be a pun with the first. Maybe “Abel”?

    10. Next thing you know the kid will be grown and you will be old. It will seem like five minutes.

      1. Since sloopy already IS old, it literally will be five minutes.

        1. Hey, I thought we were piling on Banjos for now.

          But I will be 60 when this kid would have graduated from high school (if we were evil enough parents to send her there instead of homeschooling her). So your point is valid…asshole.

          1. With homeschooling, you can probably send her off to college at about 14 or so.

            So, it wont be long at all.

            1. True, but I will still be old.

              1. Age is merely a state of mind, sloop. Seriously.

              2. I resemble that remark! I was 19 when my first was born, I will be 59 when the last one hits the age of majority.

    11. I’d go with something that starts with a vowel to make the initials an pronounceable acronym.

    12. Congrats! Hope everything turns out well for y’all.

    13. Congratulations, guys. Step one of the secret libertarian breeding program seems to be a success.

    14. If I were a jerk I’d put $500 down on Dunphy Spicer.

      1. …but I’m not a jerk so this doesn’t count as a bid.

    15. Congrats you jerks!! Now crap out two more, ’cause there’s no way one kid’s gonna earn enough to support you two burdens to society when you’re old and useless.

      1. You mean next week?

    16. Yea! I will continue to pray things work out for Reason ??????.

    17. Congratulations.

      I’m a little disappointed that the name isn’t a bit more unusual. Pity I’m broke at the moment, or I’d throw in for something a bit more unusual. When you get named in such an interesting way, the name ought to stand out a bit, I would think. Though she definitely has that covered with the first name.

    18. Congrats! And welcome to the world, little SloopyJos!

  33. Why would you use an actual picture of Tim Geithner? Needs more Eraserhead.

  34. That fiscal cliff thing? Yeah … Democrats and Republicans are playing chicken as the deadline looms.

    Is that a bad thing?

    Honestly, the best reasonable result is they fight it out and do nothing and the automatic cuts kick in.

    1. still favor letting all the Bush-era rates expire in the hope that people are going to have to personally feel the cost of govt if spending is ever going to be addressed. Yes, I know..putting way too much stock in the intelligence of the average voter but this only takes a majority looking at their checks and asking WTF?

    2. Are they real cuts or the fake kind that Congress thinks are real?

      1. They’re fake. That’s the tragic part of it all.

        1. True, but still better than what negotiations will get us.

    3. The fiscal cliff seems like the most responsible option available.

      The whining about how it’ll cause a recession is just an excuse to avoid making any cuts, because GDP growth is so low that basically any cuts will send us into a technical recession.

  35. With a report on manufacturing due today, economists bet the economy slipped in November, as capital spending slipped and Superstorm Sandy mucked-up the works.

    You’re almost as bad as the people who skip alt-text.

  36. Now, not only are we offering you the once-in-a-lifetime chance to name our child, but we’re also now offering you the once-in-a-year chance to participate in the Reason Hit & Run College Bowl Pick-Em.

    That’s right. Test your mettle against each other by picking the winners of such classic matchups as the Beef O’Brady’s Bowl (UCF v Ball St), the Belk Bowl (Cincy v Duke) and the ever-popular BBVA Compass Bowl (Pitt v Ole Miss).

    As always, the winning prize depends on the marital status of the winner and/or the willingness of any other single player of the opposite (or same in some states) sex to relocate and marry that person. Your results may vary, but last year’s results turned out quite well for me and the woman sitting in the hospital bed next to me at the moment.

    password: reason

    1. Your results may vary, but last year’s results turned out quite well for me and the woman sitting in the hospital bed next to me at the moment.

      You know, sloopy, that doesn’t actually sound very good, even though we know it is…

      1. Upon further reflection, my Tobias Funke-esque writing style strikes again.

      2. If we’re going to enact the breeding program, monogamy is not an option. You don’t know the first thing about libertarian husbandry.

    2. After the complete asswhipping I took this week in the pro version, I’m hesitant.

      1. This was a tough week for you, to be sure. But look at the standings. Not a lot of breathing room for any of us at the top.

      2. On the plus side, Eli plays tonight so you’re sure to get that one right.

        But yeah, my poor performance in pros is not giving me any confidence in college, where I know nothing about any teams.

        1. Seriously, I know the Giants are going to drop this one. I can feel it.

          1. What’s more important is what Brett feels. Then we do the opposite.

          2. I’m betting on NYG to win. That way, when Eli fucks me, he loses, too. (Again, 1-11 on picking NYG games this year.) This has been a public service announcement.

    3. Sorry, I’ve been banned from bowl contention.

  37. I don’t know how many people here watch Fox News. I watch O’Reilly just about every night for the lulz. And also for a chance to see this happen in real time.

    O’REILLY: Mr. Silverman. It is a fact that Christianity is not a religion it is a philosophy. If the government were saying that the Methodist religion, all right, deserves a special place in the public square I will be on your side.

    SILVERMAN: So you are going to actually tell me on live television that Christianity is not a religion?

    O’REILLY: Correct. It is a philosophy.

    SILVERMAN: You and I are fundamentally going to disagree on that point.

    O’REILLY: You are wrong.

    1. Buddhism has more of a legitimate argument of being a philosophy instead of a religion than Christianity does.

    2. He should have turned the argument and said that the government can then make laws to prohibit the free exercise of Christianity.

    3. Well, then, no Christian churches should be tax-exempt.

      1. No church should be tax exempt just because they are a church. They should be treated exactly the same as any other social organization. Some might be tax exempt charities, some might not. Giving a special place to religion in the tax code is making a law regarding the establishment of religion or free exercise thereof.

        1. I’ve often wondered how the exemption for churches qua churches is Constitutional.

    4. Even funnier was O’Reilly telling all those kids to get off his lawn with their crazy music:


      1. I love when he gets “professional” “medical” opinions from Dr For-the-children.

  38. So, how else made Zwanze Day on Saturday?

    The Louisville site at Holy Grale was rockin’.

      1. Did you just have a stroke?

  39. OK, enough laughs. We’re off to the NICU Nursery to see our little girl…and here comes the work. Apparently, I have to push Banjos all the way down there in a wheelchair.

    1. I have to push Banjos all the way down there in a wheelchair.

      I thought you said enough laughs?

      1. Quite so, I am laughing already.

      2. You’re lucky: from this alone I can tell that your hospital isn’t unionized.

    2. Apparently, I have to push Banjos all the way down there in a wheelchair.

      This is why we need socialized medicine.

      Good luck, you three.

    3. Come on sloopy, PUSH!

  40. I’m sure everyone here knows full well that following tax laws can lead to “immoral tax avoidance,”
    At least according to some brain-dead Brit politico:

    1. If we write our tax laws in a way that allows you to pay low taxes, it’s your fault if you pay low taxes.

    2. “Dammit, those loopholes were put in there for our cronies! Its immoral to use them if you aren’t part of the club!”

    3. Just a thought:
      Since the Brits don’t have free-speech, couldn’t this woman be jailed for public stupidity? Impersonating a rational being?

  41. The uglier of Britain’s young princes knocked up the uglier of the Middleton sisters.

    1. So Harry and Pippa are getting it on now too?

      1. Yeah, right, , like Harry is the uggo in that family

    2. Like Harry is Prince Charles’ kid.

      1. I thought inbreeding led to sterility? And aren’t three generations of imbeciles enough?

  42. We now have a $215 bid for the middle name “Sophia”. As noted above, please either email sloopy or I (kenspicer111@gmail.com or karatheawesome@gmail.com), or contact us on our blog, or comment on this thread if you are interested in bidding. Bids close at midnight as we have to fill out the birth certificate before I am discharged which may happen as early as tomorrow.

    1. I like that, as it is my own daughter’s middle name. Therefore, I won’t try to outbid (see what I did there?). Seriously, Mrs. Edcoast and I are piling on the congratulations and best wishes for the difficult months ahead.

    2. I’m priced out, but I think a middle name of “Superstorm” would be awesome.

      Shame none of the frontrunners will allow her to cash in on the awesome powers of the initials “R” and “C”, though.

      Oh, and congrats and good luck. Lemme know if anybody at the hospital needs their kneecaps adjusted; I know all the soft spots.

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