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  1. Ron Paul and Barney Frank jointly asked the Obama administration to give that federalism thing a try…

    Obama doesn’t want to look like Gorbachev when the Berlin Wall started coming down!

    1. He thinks 3/5ths of the states should have rights…

    2. According to half the comment section on every article I’ve read about this Obama is only cracking down on MJ because the Republicans will make him look bad.

      The other half says he hasn’t been cracking down at all.

      1. I’ve run acrossa large number Obama acolytes that earnestly claim that he has not killed anyone with drones, did not start a new war (let alone one without Congressional authorization), has not cracked down on medical mj, killed warrantless wiretapping, has not supported wall street and big banks nor haave any idea at all what Benghazi or fast & furious are.

        The willful ignorance is just stunning.

        1. Yes. I had to send a friend 3 or 4 stories before she would believe that we were drone striking people in Pakistan.

        2. How would they be expected to know any of this? Wasn’t on/in CNN, MSNBC or the NY Times, and they sure as shit don’t watch FOX.

          1. If it’s on Fox it’s a lie. QED.

        3. Name and shame them.

          1. The Post ran an above the fold picture this morning of an 11-month old Palestinian child killed in an Israeli strike. If only they’d run pictures from other parts of the world.

            1. C’mon man, Pakistanis don’t matter as much as Palestinians, haven’t you figured that out?

              1. some dead kids are more equal than others.

        4. It doesn’t matter much. Most of the ones who know about drone strikes don’t care because they’d rather have Obama doing it than Romney.

          Top. Men.

      2. The other day I was at a bar with some friends and weed being legal in some states, but still federally illegal came up. They were confused how that could work. They didn’t believe me that the feds were still going after people in those states.

        “Oh, they won’t do that.”

        “They already have.”

        “What? No. That can’t be right.”

        1. Something about the government they deserve?

          1. Well the issue is that most people learn about the government in civics class. So even if they were paying attention, it’s mostly totally divorced from reality.

            I mean, they still teach that federalism is a real thing in school. Which is obviously laughable. My socialist retard government teacher used “fiscal federalism” to describe what you and I know as the feds using the threat of canceled money to force states to toe the line on drinking age and drug policy, for example. But they still teach kids that the states and the feds share power, which isn’t really true to any meaningful extent anymore.

            1. In my COLLEGE civics class, we were told (by a TA, not someone with tenure) that someone had, in fact, shouted fire in a crowded theater, leading to Holmes’s (in)famous opinion.

              So it doesn’t surprise me that most people are blissfully ignorant of what the government does in their name.

  2. Sandy Spurs Jump in Jobless Claims; Inflation Nudges Up

    Super storm Sandy drove U.S. weekly jobless claims up to 439,000, while consumer prices rose slightly last month as higher rents and costlier food offset cheaper gas.

    1. Nice try. That Fist is just too fast.

      1. If I had a nickel for every time a girlfriend said that…

        1. I thought you were gay?

      2. If I wanted to compete with The Fist I could have posted something short ‘n’ sharp without a link or html. Instead I give you content and careful analysis. Or not.

    2. Sandy Spurs would be a good adult film industry name.

      1. “adult film industry…”

        So modest!

    3. Unexpected, of course.

    4. Not possible. I have it on good authority from Keynesians that hurricanes are a ticket to riches.

      1. If destruction is a stimulus, then we should bomb the hell out of Chicago.

        1. Wait, so Tim McVeigh was just a radical Keynesian?

          1. I’m telling you, somebody needs to write a book about a Keynesian serial killer or terrorist.

          2. I think it’s Walter Williams who’s suggested that counterfeiters should claim they’re engaging in fiscal policy.

            1. Nonsense, they’re engaged in freelance monetary policy.

    5. Sandy won him the election and ruined his employment numbers. She’s a cruel mistress.

      1. You’re not assuming Obama gives a damn about the employment numbers, I hope.

    6. I’m surprised they let the numbers go that high.

      I have no doubt that Sandy had an impact, but I’m seeing indications that the retail sector is shitting its pants about the holiday season. Combine this with the fact that there’s literally nothing O-Bomba can do to prevent a recession from happening at this point with the “fiscal cliff” coming up, and I’m getting ready to pop some popcorn.

  3. Ancient panda fossils!

    First one to make a monocle from them wins.

    1. That’s disgusting. I only use the freshest panda fossils for my monocles.

      1. I use pandas in place of child labot.

        1. “child labot”

          Is that like Borg children?

  4. Ancient panda fossils! Oh, c’mon. You like pandas.

    Let Spain be your last battlefield.

    1. Cease your pandering.

      1. Pandering is pandemic here.

    2. I only like pandas for the warm fur coats that are made from their pelts.

      1. Oh come on now, every room is brightened with a panda foot umbrella holder.

  5. Two Los Angeles police officers were convicted of perjury. Four years ago, they lied in a drug possession case to get a conviction. Isolated incident!

    I agree. It is an isolated incident when cops get convicted for their malfeasance.

    1. The good news is that they guy they lied to convict is still behind bars. So we’re still safe.

      1. Ah, so you read the story. I’m too lazy to go through the click to 24/7 followed by the click to the actual story.

        1. No, I’m too lazy as well, I’m just making a hypothesis based on a mountain of previous evidence.

  6. President Obama: ‘I am a firm believer that climate change is real’

    “You know, as you know, Mark, we can’t attribute any particular weather event to climate change. What we do know is the temperature around the globe is increasing faster than was predicted even 10 years ago. We do know that the Arctic ice cap is melting faster than was predicted even five years ago. We do know that there have been extraordinarily ? there have been an extraordinarily large number of severe weather events here in North America, but also around the globe.”

    “And I am a firm believer that climate change is real, that it is impacted by human behavior and carbon emissions. And as a consequence, I think we’ve got an obligation to future generations to do something about it.”

    (as long as it doesn’t personally curtail me) he added underneath his breath.

    1. related: Global warming stopped 16 years ago, reveals Met Office report quietly released… and here is the chart to prove it

    2. Yeah, I don’t think he is going to trade in Air Force One for a seat on a Gray Hound bus.

    3. What we do know is the temperature around the globe is increasing faster than was predicted even 10 years ago.

      Let him be clear, virtually all economists agree on this.

      1. Yep. Our climate science is *that* crappy.

    4. An obligation to future generations? HAHAHAHAHAHA. He said that as he piled a trillion more dollars in debt, I’m sure.

      1. Actually printing that cash (as opposed to it being virtual) would be one form of carbon sequestration.

        1. I think you may have solved global warming!

          And when global cooling sets in, we can start burning all those worthless pieces of high quality paper to keep warm.

    5. What we do know is the temperature around the globe is increasing faster than was predicted even 10 years ago.

      Haven’t temperatures been pretty stable for the past 10 years?

      1. 16

      2. If that was the case, Mark would have challenged him on the assertion.

    6. What we do know is the temperature around the globe is increasing faster than was predicted even 10 years ago.

      Isnt this objectively false, due to the plateau over last 14 or 16 years or whatever?

      1. Maybe they were predicting a downturn 10 years ago so a flat period can be technically described as being faster than that, or something. Or maybe it’s best to just assume he’s lying about everything.

        1. I’d say the latter is fairly accurate.

        2. They definitely weren’t predicting a downturn…

        3. I think a better explaination is that he actually believes what he said and is just a dumbass who is more concerned with public opinion and poll numbers than facts.

        4. Use Hanlon’s razor: He’s not lying, he’s just running his mouth without knowing what the hell he’s talking about.

      2. I think that the line is that while global temperature averages (whatever that means) have stayed mostly the same, the north polar region has warmed faster. I think that the Arctic Ocean has had less ice than has been common since satellite pictures have been available, but who knows what that really means in terms of global climate trends.

        Climate change is definitely real, we just don’t know shit about how it works or how much it is influenced by human activity.

      3. There is no plateau. 2010 is the hottest year on record. 2011 is the hottest La Nina year on record.

        1. Sure, as long as your records don’t start before around 1973.

          1. The records start around 1870.


        2. Also, your comment says nothing about rate of change, which is what Obama was talking about.

      4. I thought it was predicted that everything would already be under water.

    7. I do believe everyone of these factual assertions is false:

      What we do know is the temperature around the globe is increasing faster than was predicted even 10 years ago. We do know that the Arctic ice cap is melting faster than was predicted even five years ago. We do know that there have been extraordinarily ? there have been an extraordinarily large number of severe weather events here in North America, but also around the globe.

      1. The first one is false: the temperature is increasing within IPCC predictions, and thankfully towards the lower end of the expected range. The last two are true.

        1. What were the predictions on the Arctic ice cap melting five years ago?

          And didn’t I recently post a link to a study showing that severe storms have actually been in a lull the past several years?

          And I’m pretty sure the predictions on temperature increase 10 years ago didn’t call for fluctuation within a range, which is pretty much what we’ve had.

  7. CIA: We Didn’t Ask for Help During Benghazi Attack

    The disclosure may put an end to one line of inquiry into the Benghazi affair about why reinforcements from the region were not sent on the night of the attack. “Assistance from the U.S. military was critical, and we got what we requested,” the senior U.S. intelligence official said.


    1. It’s true: they didn’t ask for help. During the height of the attack they sexting Paula Broadwell.

    2. Truth still to come.

    3. Shut up sock puppet.

    4. See, once again, the problem is that nobody told Obama that help was needed. Nobody ever tells him anything!

      1. Exactly!

        While they watched the whole attack from the White House situation room, Obama was heard to say: “Wow, they are getting the shit attacked out them. I wonder why they don’t ask for help? I would surely send it! Oh, well. Let’s make up a crazy story about this just for the hell of it.”

        Then, later in the day he decided to relieve Africom and Stennis Battle Group Commanders. Just because.

  8. Because I know you guys were all wondering about the followup to the gay incest twins:

    1. I wasn’t wondering.

  9. Massachusetts is likely to see another battle for a Senate seat as John Kerry is floated for a cabinet position.

    Warren may have to smoke the peace pipe with Brown after all.

      1. Fist is presuming Brown is going to run for the vacant seat and win it. I don’t think either is likely.

        1. That joke went over your head like Great Eagle flying over sleeping buffalo.

            1. Well, then, how about John Kerry/floated?


              C’mon, dammit! That’s gold!

    1. Those two will never bury the tomahawk.

      1. In each other’s heads perhaps…..

      2. Which one would be the junior senator?

        1. Maybe he Big Chief Defends Poetic Paleface would have to decide.

  10. Husband’s horror as he returns home to find his firefighter wife, 44, killed by dog just a week after they adopted it

    1. So, what is the husband’s occupation and how old is he?

      Talk about shoddy journalism ….

    2. Would John or Sarcasmic have boinked her while she was still alive?

      1. In these tumultuous times, I’m glad someone is asking the important questions!

        1. With those two, it’s more like tumescent times.

      2. Who said anything about her being alive?
        I’m sure John would have boinked her as long as she was still warm.

    3. See? And you guys thought the cops were all just sadistic cowards.

      1. I realize /sarc, but really this goes to a point I’ve made at Balko’s blog a few times: If the dogs in question, were always the size of people, there would at least be room to claim fear and lack of training on the part of LEOs. It doesn’t really work when many of them are so small you could kill them by kicking them a few times.

        1. Don’t give them any ideas…

          1. Whatever, having LEOs “train” by kicking large mastiffs is a great idea, unarmed of course.

    4. Don’t get people who are into the attack dog thing. Buy a gun.

      1. I think they just like having a bad ass dog more than any self defense motivation.

      2. Having a dog decreases your chance of break-ins.

        Having a big dog means the Dominos delivery guy stands half in the street and refuses to come any closer to the door.

      3. Attack dogs are trained as such, Francisco. There is no such breed, you know.

        This was either a boxer/pit mix, a mastiff, or something else entirely. Mastiffs and pits are famously not aggressive towards people (unless abused/trained to be so). Boxers, I couldn’t say.

        1. Never implied otherwise. Friend of mine has dobermans and they are the nicest dogs in the world. I’d say this dog was either trained or abused. i.e. an attack dog. Don’t understand why anyone would want such an animal.

          (And the exception to the rule… Chesapeake Bay Retrievers… licking your face one minute, eating it the next.)

    5. First they say its a boxer/pit mix, and then they say its a mastiff.

      Quality reporting, layers of editors and factcheckers, etc.

      1. No, the boxer/pit mix was one of their other dogs.

  11. Paula Broadwell had “substantial” classified information on her personal computer that wasn’t well-secured, say officials. How ever did she get it, they wonder.

    Even contextual google ads know more about what was going on in Libya than Obama.

    1. The FBI needs to someone anyone to jail. Looks Broadwell just volunteered.

      1. But… she’s inviolable.

        1. Uh. I’m pretty sure her walls have been successfully assaulted.

          1. “She’s the village bicycle! Everyone’s had a ride…”

            1. I think that’s the other one. I can’t keep them straight.

      2. And I thought my typing was bad this morning.

        1. I’ve been reading John’s comments long enough that it was perfectly understandable on first glance.

        2. We all make mistakes, it’s just part of a day’s labot.

          1. I told you my typing was bad this morning!

            1. Is an edit function too much to ask for?

              1. No. edit. function. EVER! You think the troll and sockpuppet goalpost moving is bad now, just wait until they can pussy-edit their garbage.

                1. Been on some sites that annotate that the original was edited. Perhaps they could even allow you to retrieve the original?

                  Why is the commentariate relegated to the dark ages?

                2. Some sites have allowed a small(ish) window of time to edit comments. Ten minutes ought to be enough to catch typos.

      3. I thought the FBI had wrapped up the investigation before the election? It’s almost like I’m being lied to.

    2. The contents and amount of the classified material – and questions about how Broadwell got it – are significant enough to warrant a continuing investigation, the officials said

      Is this the same Broadwell whom the FBI already closed an investigation on after they determined that there was no reason to believe any national security issues had been raised?

      1. Oh please, if distributing and being careless with classified information was dangerous, there’d be a law against it.

  12. It’s too bad Frank wasn’t on the pot and gambling committee instead of Finance or whatever it was. He might have done some good instead of saddling us with a bunch of stupid financial regs.

    1. Wow, I guess there is one good thing I can say about him. At least that’s one more thing than Schumer, that worthless pile of crap.

      1. Yeah, Frank has been consistent on opposing Federal pot prohibition and gambling restrictions. Unfortunately, there was also everything else he supported.

  13. already covered, but a followup of sorts:

    A Twinkie-less world: Will union strike do in Hostess?

    The union, which earlier this year rejected Hostess’ last-best offer by a 92 percent margin, said the strike is over the company’s bankruptcy plan that imposes new work rules and cuts employee pay and benefits.

    Hostess CEO Greg Rayburn said the company can’t restructure without a more favorable union deal and he will liquidate the company should the strike become protracted.

    1. Ha, ha, ha, With the factories closed soon my plan of buying up the world supply of Twinkies and holding the planet hostage will come true. Anyone wanting a Twinkie will have to come to me.

      1. No one wants Twinkies. I think people eat them out of kindness when they are at an elderly relative’s house, like circus peanuts.

        1. When I was a kid/ teenager I LOVED their cherry pie and apple pie. Twinkies… not so much.

          1. I always remember that the blueberry pie listed apples as an ingredient before blueberries….so a greedy, lying corporation getting it’s just desserts šŸ˜‰

        2. Blasphemy!!! Twinkies are the Food of the Gods.

          I will hold them ransom for 1 million dollars. Ha, Ha, Ha …….

        3. Ding Dongs for me … wait, this sounds sexual now

          1. what about King Dons, the low cost competitor?

          2. Ho Hos

          3. I try not be a “back in my day” old fucker about stuff, but they really were better when they were in aluminum foil.

            1. oh yeah – the world’s thinnest aluminum foil.

              1. If you tore itto fourths, you could ball it up small enough to use it as a blowdart through a straw.

              2. Except for tearing one open and leaving a piece of the foil stuck on the Ding Dong and then biting it on a filling.

                That sucked!

            2. I agree, but it wasnt the foil, I think it was using real sugar vs HFCS.

              1. Possibly. I remember the chocolate being drier and more crunchy. Of course, HFCS is more hydroscopic than cane sugar, so that might be it.

            1. Suzy-Qs, the poor man’s moon pie.

              1. What about Little Debbie snack cakes? It was so nice to have a costco membership & get a big box of those. Oatmeal Sandwich Cremes, mmmm.

                1. Swiss Rolls made me want to move to Switzerland.

        4. at an elderly relative’s house, like circus peanuts

          My grandmother always had a stash of those orange marshmallow peanut-shaped candies. Like chewing on pencil erasers.

          1. You have the palate of a peasant!

            1. “And we *liked* it!!”

        5. What the hell’s wrong with circus peanuts? I think they’re delicious, especially when they’re a little stale.

          1. yikes. I actually saw a teenager with a bag at the store recently. I figure he must have been on his way to his great Aunt’s house. My great Aunt always had Boston Baked Beans (ew!) and red hots.

            1. Also both delicious!

              Though red hots have that annoying teeth sticking deal.

            2. Boston Baked Beans (ew!)

              You have the palate of a peasant!

          2. What the hell’s wrong with circus peanuts?

            I bet you like Mary Janes and black licorice as well.. the idea that shit ever passed for candy makes me question the whole “Greatest Generation” thing

            1. Mary Janes are OK, black licorice – not so much.

            2. Ugh. I remember having to weed all the Mary Janes out of my seventies Halloween hauls. My weird older brother is the only person I ever knew who would eat them.

        6. I have always been completely turned off by the white stuff in the middle. I have honestly never had a Twinkie and never been the least bit interested in trying one.

          1. I’m trying to figure out if Zeb is talking about junk food, or his social life.

            1. Heh. Both, I guess.

        7. I love em deep fried.

        1. or shiut

          1. That makes me very afraid to follow that link.

            1. I’m sure Francisco would tell us if he had ever been in a German Schei?e video.

    2. Let them eat cake.

    3. As much as I love Twinkies, I really, REALLY hope Rayburn holds the course.

      1. Also I hope he freaking scorches the earth. I mean don’t just sell the ‘bakeries’. Liquidate all the equipment as scrap and sell the real estate to some unrelated, preferably low employment businesses. Ideally parking lots or something.

        1. Wouldn;t it be extra sweet if he licensed the names and recipes to some Chinese company?

          1. That would be delicious!

            1. I think you meant to say “deerishous”, did you not?

              1. Lacist!

      2. I didn’t know you liked twinks. Not that there’s anything wrong with that.

        1. Sure, nothing beats giving late game gear to your low level newbs.

    4. You people just don’t get it. There was a reason that Tallahassee couldn’t find Twinkies in Zombieland. This stop in Twinkie production is just the first sign of the zombie apocalypse.

      1. Damn, it took how long before this was pointed out?

  14. Cop faces charges for assaulting restrained prisoners only after fellow cops complain that he got special treatment since his dad is the chief.
    Note that his fellow officers didn’t turn him in for assaulting people. Only because they were jealous of special treatment.
    Will anything else happen? Probably not.

    1. Two mother men have also accused Cossett of excessive force

      Abusing men who have two mothers is like the height of political incorrectness.

  15. Man let loose from prison after 30 years because cops withheld evidence and coerced a confession.
    I assume that the offending cops and prosecutor will face charges…. Haaaaaaaaaa ha ha ha ha! No. They lived happily ever after.

    1. Glad that all worked out for everyone!

    2. Now that pisses me off. Beating someone is one thing. Ruining someone’s entire life is a fucking capital offense. They should go away for the duration.

  16. Bolivian courts to castrate rapists and cut hands off thieves.

    1. See how electing a left wing government brings progress.

    2. Why don’t they try it the other way for once.

      1. Why not both for each?

        1. Hrm…hell that way you wouldn’t even need a trial since the punishment’s the same.

          I like the way you think!

  17. In depth article into Bama-LSU teabagging incident.

    Truly the pinnacle of sports journalism.

    1. Bama and LSU are teabagging? Fine, let them secede from the union.

      1. You mean SECede.

        1. If I wasn’t such an apologist for puns, I’d hate you for this.

        2. or, succeed?

    2. God only knows what they’d do with AN Ohio State University.

      1. Same thing, they just call it giving them the Buckeye.

    3. Anyone who eats Krystal deserves a teabagging. That food is nasty as shit.

      1. You probably hate circus peanuts too you heathen.

      2. It all tastes the same to your stomach after a day of drinking on Bourbon Street.

      3. What have you got against the White Castle of the south?

        I mean besides stomach cramps and diarrhea?

    4. Wow, surely now we have reached peak retard.

      Also, that article was so horribly written I could barely make it through the first third before skimming the rest.

  18. Based on the photo, I humbly submit this alt-alt-text: “This is all heading toward a gig on dancing with the other stars in Leavenworth, isn’t it?”

    1. I love the jailhouse window effect they got with that photo.

      Well played, Mr. Peeping Tom Photographer guy!

  19. Janeane Garofalo has been married for the last 20 years. And here I thought she played for the other team.

    1. The 48-year-old stand-up comedienne, actress, liberal political activist and writer told the New York Post that she and her then boyfriend of one year, Rob Cohen, had wed in Vegas ‘as a joke’ in 1991 – but didn’t imagine it would be formally recognized.

      We’re on common ground, Janeane. I also would prefer the government not formally recognize marriages.

      1. Maybe the dude will go after half of her earnings for the period they were married…oh wait, that probably wouldn;t cover the legal fees.

    2. She was filing her taxes as a single all of those years. She owes back taxes and penalities. As a liberal who thinks taxes should be higher. I’m sure she’ll have no problem with paying this.

    3. “I thought she played for the other team.”

      Neither team wanted her.

  20. Beware: ObamaCare’s now reality

    If you get your health insurance through a job, you might lose it as of Jan. 1, 2014. That’s when the new “employer mandate” kicks in, requiring employers with 50 or more full-time workers to provide the government-designed health plan or pay a fine. The government plan is so expensive, it adds $1.79 per hour to the cost of a full-time employee. That’s incidental if you’re hiring neurosurgeons but a hefty increase for hiring busboys and sales clerks.

    Currently, employers in retail and fast-food industries pay less than half that to cover their workers.To avoid thecostly mandate,some employers will push workers into part-time status. Other employers will opt for the fine. Either way, workers lose their on-the-job coverage.

    1. This means I won’t be able to get the awesome “covers you if you get leukemia” insurance anymore, doesn’t it? Bastards.

    2. They could go the way of France, where there is a suspiciously high number of companies with 49 employees.

      1. Exactly. If you work for a company with 50-100 employees, start getting worried.

        1. There’s going to be so many ways around this. But part-timing and cutting back to 49 are going to be the easiest.

          Bigger companies that don’t want to be creative will just see what’s bigger: the fine or paying for the plans. And then they will pass their savings on to you!

          1. For my company, the fine is about 1/10th the cost of the plan.

            So yeah, it’s a pretty easy decision.

          2. I have already started my planning based on the assumption my company will eliminate our coverage.

      2. Does anyone have any dirt on the French health care system? Lately people have been raving about it, but that doesn’t compute…..

        But I can’t find any “down side” to it anywhere. Anyone got links?

      3. They could go the way of France, where there is a suspiciously high number of companies with 49 employees.

        Damn, why won’t the economy recover?


  21. Liberals exist in the ape world as well.

    1. ‘It was really funny so I started snapping away with my camera. I don’t think I’ll ever see something this funny again.’

      Oh, sure you will. Throw in a bunch of laxatives or hand grenades.

      1. knives and monocles.

    2. A cousin of Steve Smith, no doubt.

      1. No, look at the pics. He’s eating the carrots.

    3. And the Daily Fail writer is so stupid she can’t tell the difference between a chimp and a gorilla.

  22. Who was it that said pandas deserve extinction because they won’t even fuck to save their species?

    1. Your mom?

    2. Marlon Olson?

    3. I am Jack’s awesome movie reference.

      1. “I wanted to put a bullet between the eyes of every panda who wouldn’t screw to save his species, I wanted to dump oil over all those French beaches I’d never see, I wanted to breath smoke… I felt like destroying something beautiful.”

      2. More like Jack’s completely overrated movie reference. And just for good measure: Drive was completely overrated too.

    4. Yeah. They are sort of cool, but Pandas are pretty much a dead end. Even if humans hadn’t disrupted their habitat, some change would have coma along sooner or later that would have done them in.

      I’m certainly not happy if a species of large animal disappears, but it is silly to imagine that every living creature is an essential part of a functioning biosphere.

  23. Paula Broadwell had “substantial” classified information on her personal computer that wasn’t well-secured, say officials.

    Didn’t keep her Norton 360 up to date.

  24. Do you believe in magic?

    The company said that if the bakers don’t return to work on Thursday, it will file a motion on Friday in U.S. Bankruptcy Court to wind down operations and sell off all assets of Sweetheart, maker of WonderBread and Twinkies. A hearing could occur as early as Monday and, if the bankruptcy judge grants the motion, the company shutdown could start Tuesday, Rayburn said.

    On the Billings picket line on Midland Road, Sweetheart managers came out Wednesday afternoon and handed strikers copies of Rayburn’s liquidation promise.

    But Eusebio Diaz, Billings business agent for the BCTGM Local 466, told managers that his members will not go back to work.

    “Our local members want them to liquidate. We want new buyers to come in and buy us. This company isn’t in good financial shape, and we want to take our chances with a new owner,” Diaz said.

    I don’t think these guys understand what bankruptcy “liquidation” means.

    1. Unless a buyer comes in and wants the whole thing en bloc…and the union is making that pretty unpalatable.

    2. The last thing any buyer is going to want back, it’s you guys. Coming in 2013: the Beijing #3 People’s Twinkie Plant.

    3. Eastern Air Lines, Electric Boogaloo

    4. “Our local members want them to liquidate. We want new buyers to come in and buy us. This company isn’t in good financial shape, and we want to take our chances with a new owner,”

      I wonder why he thinks any potential buyer watching this debacle unfold would want anything whatsoever to do with him and his union buddies. If I were a businessman, I wouldn’t touch that situation with STEVE SMITH’S dick.

      1. Anyone know where I can buy a company with a union already in place?

    5. Wow. They must expect the Administration to come in and set bankruptcy terms.

      1. Well that would be insane. If a President did that, he’d get tons of criticism for picking winners and losers and subverting the legal process.

        1. I know, it would be outrageous, wouldn’t it?

          1. At least he doesn’t have any ties to the people involved in this case. Imagine if, say, the union was a heavy donator to his campaign. Now that’d cause some backlash.

            1. Fer sure.

            2. Oh, yeah. The news media would be relentless. They would never let that slide.

          2. Unprecedented, even.

  25. 5 Ways To Protect Yourself Against Obamacare

    1) Get a good primary care doctor, if you haven’t already done so.
    2) Use a Health Savings Account (HSA).
    3) Consider a concierge or “direct pay” physician.
    4) Consider medical tourism, when appropriate.
    5) Help your doctor work on your behalf.

    more details at link

    1. 6) Don’t get sick.

    2. HSA’s will still be legal under Obamacare?

      1. No way. That’s the first thing the have to kill. They make economic sense.

        1. We also need the equivalent of an IPAB for lawyers.

        2. I was under the impression they were killed already. Or was that just HSAs with a HDHP?

          1. I still have an HSA with HDHP, but I they tightened the shit out of what your HSA could buy. Only medical services and prescription drugs. No more OTC meds or unprescribed injury treatments. I’m uncertain about whether eyeglasses are still allowed.

            The Dems were trying hard to kill them, though, because they were a viable way for businesses to continue to provide tax-free medical benefits to employees at a lower cost. (No payroll tax on employer contributions.) I expect we’ll continue to see further restriction and or abolition, because they are still economically viable in the current not-so-free market.

            1. Health care insurance that makes sense? Can’t have that.

            2. also, the HDHP is required to cover all the preventive stuff just like a regular health plan for “free,” further defeating the purpose.

              1. Wait… if this is true, then HDHP are illegal, right?

                1. no, but they’re going to be less like the HDHP that we’re accousted too. there’s an actuarial value that they’ll have to meet to be considered “credible coverage.” and IIRC, the guidance that has been issued makes it harder for HDHP to meet the standard than you’re typical plan. the regs on that are still pending (i think — it’s not my area of focus)

                  1. If you’re getting services for free, that doesn’t fit my definition of a high deductible plan.

                    1. It does meet HHS’ definition.

              2. Hmm. I was under the impression that I paid the BCBS rate out of my pocket for everything. Of course, I haven’t seen my primary care physician in 3 years or so. I usually just go the the outpatient clinic the one time each year I get sick. Probably should check in with the PC doc. Found one with small hands (important if you’re a man in his mid-30s), so I want to make sure I stay on the patient list.

                1. I have a nearly anorexic female primary care doc for the same reason, Brett.

              3. also, the HDHP is required to cover all the preventive stuff just like a regular health plan for “free,”

                I didn’t think it was required, just allowed.

                1. ACA requires it, IIRC.

                  I know my plan has added it much more preventative stuff. Women can get sterilized for free now!

          2. They exist, I have one.

            They dont count under Obamacare, so you would still have to pay the penaltax.

            My calculation says that my HSA plan with the penaltax is still cheaper. Although probably not if I was actually spending $2500 per year from my HSA or something.

            I havent calculated the breakeven point yet, I have a year.

            1. I’m going to have to review my insurance now. If I get hit with the penaltax because I’m saving money by buying catastrophic insurance and saving on the premiums, I am going to be pissed.

              1. see http://www.ifebp.org/inforequest/0160537.pdf

                a lot of this is TBD, b/c HHS is dragging on implementing the regs.

                1. Fuck, the maximum deductible for families blows me out of the water on my current policy. I just switched over to a new policy 6 months ago too. Fuckity fuck fuck fuck…..

                2. Looks like the deductible for my plan will have to change from $2500 to $2000.

                  Which means I will pay more.

                  1. It looks like, with some tweaking, and depending on HHS rulings, HSA plans might be able to squeeze in as qualified plans.

                    As I mentioned above, deductible will be lower than I currently have, which means premiums will go up, but hopefully less than the amount of penaltax.

                    The law clearly makes the HSA less useful.

            2. Ah, that’s what I was thinking of. That they “don’t count”. So it’s not that they’re illegal, it’s that you still get taxed (but not penalized, oh no, of course not a penalty) for having it?

              1. I hope Roberts gets shamed until the end of his miserable life for that decision. Lousy coward that he is.

            3. I just did the math. Under current law, in 2014, it will be cheaper for me to keep the HDHP at the higher deductible plus the PPACA penalty than switch to the cheapest comparable qualifying option. The only relevant assumptions are that HDHPs will be subject to the $2000 maximum deductible, that the price between that $2000 deductible plan and mine remains more than $60/month, and that the penaltax remains capped at $695 for individuals.

              1. $695 isnt the cap. Its either $695 or 2.5% of income, whichever is greater.

                1. Shit. I read that wrong. Okay, no way is going to cost me an extra $4000. I guess the $80/month is the better option. Thanks, PPACA, for raising my premiums $1000/year beyond what they’re already raising them.

                  1. Fuck my math skills. I don’t make that much. I give up. It’s close to a wash at my real 2.5%. Difference was about $120/month. If we’re talking taxable income, I’m close to even. If we’re talking unadjusted gross, no fucking way I’m close.

    3. or just buy some insurance from a Blue Cross or Kaiser type.

      1. You’re paying, right?

    4. I would love to use a concierge service, but I also am really happy with my primary care physician. I wish they would go concierge, but they are a really bustling practice and I can’t see them doing that.

      1. give it time.

  26. Barack Obama’s Persuasion Army
    The president has finally made the permanent campaign a reality.

    The Obama “turnout machine” wasn’t faceless. It was real people living full-time, some much of the past four years, in battleground states such as Ohio, Iowa and Virginia. They attended full-time to targeted racial, ethnic and labor constituencies, as the campaign did in 2008. Obama adviser David Plouffe calls them “the persuasion army.” I would call it a skilled propaganda machine.

    The job of the Obama persuasion army was to make sure that those targets never stopped having their heads filled via emails, phone calls, meetings and such with what Barack Obama was saying as president. USA Today reported, for example, that when Mr. Obama delivered his State of the Union speech last January?a half-year before Mitt Romney was the official GOP nominee?the campaign’s persuasion army held 2,700 house parties.

  27. I came across this article last night.


    And thought about some of Obama’s weird campaign tactics in a new light.

    The solitician for small donations, that were roundly mocked as a sign of desperation, were probably intended to increase the donor’s likelihood of voting for Obama, instead of actual fundraising attempts. Especially the ones that were part lottery to attend dinner with a celebrity.

    Likewise the creepy shit like donate your wedding gifts to Obama’s campaign, were probably more about building the personality cult of Obama, than raising money.

    1. Small donations also don’t have to be reported in any detail, and are the preferred choice for laundering illegal donations into the campaign.

  28. White House, Congress scrutinize FBI’s inquiry into Petraeus

    The White House and Congress were kept in the dark about the probes until election night last week. When asked at a news conference whether he should have known sooner that his CIA chief’s personal transgressions had surfaced, Obama said he was “withholding judgment with respect to how the entire process surrounding General Petraeus came up. You know, we don’t have all the information yet.”

    Obama’s remarks signaled that the administration is grappling with fundamental questions surrounding an investigation that has implicated the U.S. military commander in Afghanistan, blindsided the president and still not determined whether classified material was mishandled.

  29. Americans watching fiscal cliff talks intensely, pretty sure they won’t work

    Meanwhile, comes word this morning from the Gallup organization that Americans see through these chronic political charades. More than 80% of them think it is very or extremely important for both sides to reach a compromise. A majority wants both sides to compromise equally. And very few believe this will happen. So, maybe some of them aren’t so dumb after all.

    Americans are also in bipartisan agreement that this fiscal cliff debate is of top importance. Nearly three-quarters of Americans (71%) told Gallup they are following the fiscal cliff issue very or somewhat closely. That’s fully 10 points higher than the average attention focused on stories for the past several decades.

    Not surprisingly, freeloading Democrats say they are paying somewhat less attention to the issue (68% watching very or somewhat closely), while Republicans, not surprisingly as the party of fiscal restraint, are watching most intently (74%).

    1. Will 2013 spending actually be lower than 2012 spending if we “go over” the so-called fiscal cliff?

      (Seriously, I don’t know.)

    2. Not talking about the fiscal cliff was one of Romney’s biggest fuck ups.

    3. Never compromise, not even in the face of cliffageddon.

      1. “Fuck you, cut spending.”

        Heard that somewhere as a potentially effective measure.

        1. That was ol’ Pro Lib I think. Sometimes he’s pretty lucid.

    4. The Republicans are the party of fiscal restraint?

      I guess compared to the Democrats…

    5. while Republicans, not surprisingly as the party of fiscal restraint


  30. There’s been a lot of speculation wrt prisoners being housed at Benghazi, something that the administration still denies.

    Check out the “safe have” at the 4″48 mark in Brett Bauier’s special report.


    1. It’s a delay until you can get relief shot through the bars.

      1. It’s especially cute that the safe room locks from the outside.

  31. Euro zone falls into second recession since 2009

    Millions of workers went on strike across Europe on Wednesday to protest the government spending cuts they say are driving the region into a deeper malaise but which Germany and the Commission say are crucial to healing the wounds of a decade-long, credit-fuelled boom.

    “We are now getting into a double dip recession which is entirely self-made,” said Paul De Grauwe, an economist with the London School of Economics. “It is a result of excessive austerity in southern countries and unwillingness in the north to do anything else,” he said.

    1. Ah yes, Europe is so austere with it’s government spending. Those damn penny pinchers won’t spend a dime!

    2. How long will they continue to buy their own bullshit on stimulus spending when there’s no money left to spend?

    3. Wow, I didn’t realize the LSE had fallen so far. I can’t believe people can believe this crap and call themselves economists, let alone teach at one of the most prestigious economics schools in the world.

  32. Montana lawmaker asks to be paid in gold.

    Man, I wonder if I could get a discount from my local gold dealer if I just signed my whole paycheck over to him.

  33. Glowing jawa cockroach believed to have recently gone extinct. Stormtrooper beetles reported in the area.

    1. I see what you did there.

      1. That’s no volcano!

        1. UTINI!

  34. Hey, guess what, SLCPD thinks being required to wear eyeglass cameras while on duty is a bad idea. I wonder why they think that. If they have nothing to hide, it shouldn’t be problem, right?

    1. Like they want to look like fucking glasses-wearing pantywaist geeks. Why bother to bulk up to no-neck proportions if you have to be a four-eyes when you’re on duty?

  35. Obama inadvertently admits that he’s a liar a yesterdays press conference.

    As I’ve said before, she made an appearance at the request of the White House in which she gave her best understanding of the intelligence that had been provided to her.

    By the presidents and his immediate advisors.

    If Senator McCain and Senator Graham and others want to go after somebody, they should go after me. And I’m happy to have that discussion with them. But for them to go after the U.N. Ambassador, who had nothing to do with Benghazi, and was simply making a presentation based on intelligence that she had received, and to besmirch her reputation is outrageous.

    Because, I’m the one that created the story that she was repeating.

    1. Watch for one of Senator Lindy Graham’s lovers to make a sudden appearance soon.

  36. Mmmm. Queens may have some sort of toxic mold growing in the aftermath of Sandy. It just keeps getting worse.

    1. Didn’t Queens have toxic mold already?

      1. Just toxic old

      2. I’m pretty sure everywhere has toxic mold already.

      3. Yes, but they call it pizza.

        1. Dammit, WG, you owe me a new keyboard!

  37. I just realized the other day that aside from mourning the fact that Obama won the election, it also means we all have to suffer for this for the next four years. So I have something else to mourn about.

    Can someone please make “end of an era” bumperstickers already?

      1. Thanks, sarcasmic, but those were all dated Jan 2013. Sad again.

  38. McCain Responds to Obama on Benghazi: You’re Either Incompetent or Corrupt

    Why can’t he be both?

    1. Talking about sports, how about this from Zlatan Ibrahimovic:

      1. Bad goaltending (duh, it was Hart) but Ibrahimovic is good.

        1. Hart has indeed been piss-poor lately.

      2. Soccer is not a sport.

    2. Miserable fat belgian bastard

  39. Yesterday, I was torturing myself by watching some “news” show (I cannot even remember whose it was), and this perfectly round ball of dung was deposited in my lap by one of the featured beetles:

    Obama won the popular vote in the ten wealthiest zip codes in the country. This proves ALL RICH PEOPLE WANT THEIR TAXES TO BE RAISED!”

    I wasn’t before, but now I’m convinced. This sort of logic is unassailable.

    1. How many of those zip codes are in the DC area?

      1. How many of those zip codes are in the DC area?

        I’m gonna say at least 7 of 10.

    2. What’s the address for donations to the Treasury again?

    3. A majority of the very wealthy always support fascist regimes.

  40. Also OT: I found out this week that working for the TSA is good money: HS diploma, and you can make $50K per year after bonuses. But where’s the dignity in that?

    1. Who needs dignity when you get all the free candy and shampoo you can steal.

    2. Who needs dignity when you can legally grope anyone you want.

  41. After losing communications with all its satellites because a construction crew accidentally cut a cable, Russia is back in touch with them, That happened to my Internet connection, once.

    Talk about your ambiguous pronouns. Or were you just ignoring the ISS part of the story?

  42. On morning Joke today some hipster douche said that Detroit is the result of decades of austerity.

    All of the media twits at the table nodded their heads in the affirmative.

    1. Was Buchanan there or have they run him off already?

      1. They ran that racist hater off years ago.

        1. I don’t like PB, but I couldn’t imagine him agreeing with that stupid shit.

    2. GAHHHHHHHH!!!!! This stuff pisses me off.

      Detroit is the result of decades of mismanagement and corruption combined with a good thing leaving town because it was not economically viable to stay there anymore.

      Why don’t they just make Naomi Klein our Secretary of Commerce already? For fuck’s sake, these people are stupid and malicious.

    3. Yeah, I mean it’s not like they had an open racist running the city or anything for over 20 years, nor based their entire economy around a single industry that got nuked by foreign competition. It was because the government didn’t spend enough money.

      Nuke hipsters today.

    4. Come back to Michigan.

      We have your union already set up and ready to go.

  43. obama aint stupid. the war on MJ is effectively over. these initiatives were the death blow. there will be some sputtering and some primping and preening on the feds part, but the wills of the people of WA and CO will win. recreational MJ ftw

    1. I hope you are right.

      I am a bit more optimistic about this than some on here seem to be.

      1. Paging Paul ….

        1. I’m not here to argue about it. I’d like to wait and see.

    2. State governments can’t collect licensing fees and taxes for activity that is illegal under federal law. No way.

      The feds will sue under the Supremacy Clause, and win.

      1. The feds’ll never get a jury to convict at this point.

      2. I guess we’ll find out.

      3. State governments can’t collect licensing fees and taxes for activity that is illegal under federal law.

        Many states already have marijuana tax stamps on the books; they just never sell any stamps, because duh. But it is, apparently, perfectly legal for a state to tax an activity that is illegal under federal law.

        Hell, states tax income regardless of source; doesn’t matter if your income is from illegal activity.

        Now, licensing may be different, true, but as far as taxes go, I don’t see any problem.

        1. Not to mention that ever since Al Capone went down, most people have been very careful about paying Federal taxes on illegal activity. The IRS don’t care, why should your local tax collector?

    1. Prof Chapman said: ‘Opponents of the idea would be quick to suggest that Orwellian social engineers would soon be calling for licenses to drink alcohol and to eat junk food or engage in any ‘risky’ activity.

      And they would be right, you authoritarian fuckstick.

    2. Big Tobacco?

    3. How the fuck does he think that will work? There is already a huge black market in cigarettes in the UK because of the super high taxes. How is this any different from another tax hike?

      1. It’s all about intentions. Their intentions are good. They don’t intend to create a black market. Their intention is to make people healthier. Why do you want people to be unhealthy? That’s not very nice.

    4. Are his initials A.H.?

      1. Are you implying he is Alfred Hitchcock?

        1. Oh, thank god. I thought Albert Haynesworth was going on another genocidal rampage.

    5. Drug warriors?

    6. Sex is the ultimate cause of 100% of deaths each year.

    7. I’m guessing the automobile industry is remarkably silent on this one.

    8. The Fifth Element is a documentary.

    9. Do people not realize that when I read an article like that, I have exactly one reaction: have a smoke.

      And I hardly smoke anymore.

  44. Barack Obama is a shit-eating aardvark.

    1. how dare you say such things about aardvarks!

  45. Detroit is the result of decades of austerity.

    Spending all your money on counterproductive activities is a type of austerity, I suppose.

    1. No wonder Krugabe says we’re already in austerity.

    1. Jesus Christ on a fucking pogo stick, some people (2,943 of them to be exact) are just fucking crazy.

      Wish they had an anti-sign that would erase one of the signatures.

    2. address the Nation as Franklin D. Roosevelt did and propose a second Bill of Rights. Among these are:

      The right of every farmer to raise and sell his products at a return which will give him and his family a decent living

      Wasn’t it during the FDR administration that it became illegal to grow more wheat than the government said you could?

      1. Look. Top Men have determined what the optimal supply should be in order to keep prices at a level that will give farmers a decent living. Growing more than that could cause a dip in the price, and conflict with the basic right to earn a decent living.

        Why do you want farmers to starve?

    3. The right to earn enough to provide adequate food and clothing and recreation;

      The right of every farmer to raise and sell his products at a return which will give him and his family a decent living;

      These two are right after each other. These amazingly stupid fucktards can’t even see how these proposals might be at odds with each other, causing an out of control inflationary spiral.

    4. Positive “rights” strike again.

    5. The right of every businessman, large and small, to trade in an atmosphere of freedom from unfair competition and domination by monopolies at home or abroad;

      Holy shit, they just get more and more stupid. You don’t want competition, but you don’t want monopolies?

      *Head explodes*

      1. The cognitive dissonance is astounding but, it always is.

  46. The right of every farmer to raise and sell his products at a return which will give him and his family a decent living

    Wage and price controls; Nixon would be proud.

  47. Do people not realize that when I read an article like that, I have exactly one reaction: have a smoke.

    Smoking is expensive, but not as expensive as smashing the furniture, which is my visceral response.

    1. Whatever you do, don’t smoke smashed furniture. My grandfather died of “ottoman lung”.

      1. +1 armoire cigar

  48. “Mortar shells from Gaza are still landing in Israel, and the Israelis are blowing the crap out of the place in response.”

    What the fuck, Tuccille?

    So mortar shells just “land” in Israel while Israel “blows the crap out of the place in response”?

    Before the last Israeli response six thousand mortar shells “landed” (on angel’s wings with gifts of peace) in Southern Israel, including one that blew a father of four to pieces in front of his children and another which bombed a ten-year-old’s birthday party.

    Why don’t you tell us how many Jews you think should die before Israel is allowed to defend its own fucking borders.

    Or you can trot out the old bullshit about how this was all part of the magical land called “Palestine” where unicorns and fairies frolicked with the Prophet Mohammed until the evil Joos showed up and started killing everyone.

    Are you sure you didn’t mean to post that link over at Lew Rockwell? Try not to confuse the two sites.

    1. Yeah, that’s exactly what he said.

    2. Well ranted, Pete, well ranted.

      1. That was a high quality one, to be sure.

    3. Has anyone seen this yet?

      Evil Jews here

  49. The right of every businessman, large and small, to trade in an atmosphere of freedom from unfair competition and domination by monopolies at home or abroad;


    That would be a lot more credible of Progressives did not actively fetishize centralized control of every fucking thing.

  50. So I think I’ve found an affordable solution to the contraception debate.

    You know those little vials of who-knows-what that TV bills as a healthier alternative to energy drinks. Turns out they might make you die. Or to be more specific, the flavored energy shot “has been mentioned in some 90 filings with the F.D.A., including more than 30 that involved serious or life-threatening injuries like heart attacks, convulsions and, in one case, a spontaneous abortion,” according to a New York Times investigation.

    1. All I know is that 5 Hour Energy has proven to be an affordable solution to not being amped up.

    2. Is the pink lemonade, breast cancer awareness flavor a more or less effective means of abortion?

      And do you have to butt-chug it or soak it in a tampon?

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