Solo Killers Can't Be Stopped, States Advised to Ignore Obamacare, Hispanics Fear Immigration Checks: P.M. Links
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Because they stay below the radar, raise few if any red flags and break no laws until they act, solo killers, like James Holmes, are essentially unstoppable, say law-enforcement experts. "There's no way you can prevent it. There's absolutely no way," claimed Peter Ahearn, a former FBI agent.
- Don't set up state-based insurance exchanges, says Ken Cuccinelli II, Virginia's state attorney general and a major mover in the anti-Obamacare effort. He says non-compliance will shield individuals and businesses from penalties because of a legal quirk.
- The U.S. government can act as if documents released by WikiLeaks are still secret, ruled a federal judge. That means that leaked embassy cables can be read at leisure, but can't be used in court proceedings by those suing the feds.
- The Tax Justice Network, a pro-tax group, claims that wealthy people around the world have hidden at least $21 trillion of their own money from sticky-fingered governments. Well, that's not necessarily the group's take, but that's what it means. At least one financial expert calls bullshit, wondering why there are no signs of the money being put to use.
- Ron Paul and his merry band of libertarian supporters are getting the red carpet treatment at the 2012 Republican National Convention. It may have something to do with an army of young, enthusiastic activists that won't go away.
- Police fired beanbags and pepper spray at protesters in Anaheim, California, The crowd was angry over recent shootings by officers, including one of an unarmed man. The department apologized for the "accidental" unleashing of a police dog that then bit people during the demonstration.
- Hispanic residents of Alabama, both legal and illegal, report harassment after the state implemented an Arizona-style law imposing immigration checks. The police chief in Florence, Ala., said the city's Hispanic community has "gone underground," refusing to report crimes out of fear of the police enforcing the immigration law.
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The department apologized for the “accidental” unleashing of a police dog that then bit people during the demonstration.
the UOF clearly states that K9 units ARE permitted to release K9 LEO when authority is being interfered with. K9 officers are expensive and for maximum ROI they must be used periodically.
crowds were interfering with AN investigation. if civilians were questioning witnesses to the shooting and LEO were interfering with that, the civilians WOULD NOT be charged if they accidentally released a dangerous animal as a result.
no different for LEO. everyone gets ONE FREE accidental release of dangerous animals without having the animal quarantined.
if civilian investigators had a PRIOR typewritten internal policy that authorized them to fire rubber bullets at LEO’s children, that would be completely legal
hth
No one accidentally turns a police dog loose.
police can’t be expected to be experts in handling their K9 units. based on the fact pattern as presented from police the release was JUSTIFIED since the officers are given due process PER CONTRACT to prove it wasn’t an accident.
troll-o-meter: .00001
If the dog accidentally got out and started attacking people on its own, then it’s poorly trained and dangerous.
That was just an awful dunphy.
You mean it was a good rendition of dunphy, which makes it awful.
hth
Police dogs are weapons. This was a negligent unleashing.
Of course they do. In future demonstrations, fire hoses may accidentally be deployed against protesters as well.
Pitch perfect rendition, FoE.
Needs more ATFAPAPIC
Crap. That’s the acronym I was trying to get in but couldn’t find quick enough.
Ha, yeah I was going to throw in some fake acronyms but ran out of steam. It’s not easy writing like that.
Do you need to lie down? Brandy?
Are you coming on to me?
Your mom said you liked a brandy, after a hard day of staring into the abyss.
There’s a port on a western bay,
And it serves a hundred ships a day…
NTTAWWT!
You should probably just call it a day, and hit the showers. I can’t imagine how you were able to think and write like dunphy. You must be exhausted.
It’s not easy being blue.
and GOOD (bean bag) SHOOT
That was scarily dunphyesque. Bravo.
I like the way the police refer to their dogs as “officers.” It lets us know that in the grand scheme of things, a dog ranks higher than we civilians. It’s very subtle – almost subliminal, even – but it’s an important reminder of exactly where we stand.
Not so subtle or subliminal if you attempt to defend yourself from being bitten by the dog. Then you are guilty of assault on an officer.
Of course it’s not that much worse than being guilty of assault on an officer when he skins his little elbow on the pavement while smashing your skull into pulp. (Yes, that was a Kelly Thomas reference)
the reason bigorati as usual has it wrong. officers are entrusted to keep the peace and sometimes this means stopping gangbangers on the street and if they run then the idiots are asking for what they get.
besides, it’s a statistical fact that blacks and latinos commit more crimes than whites, which is why the stop and frisk programs more and more cities are picking up are as effective as they are.
Back in my days when the band was touring, i rarely ever worried about gangs. same as when i was a surfer, physics professor on loan at CERN, MANNY PACQUIAO’s trainer or a senior partner at morgan stanley. but i worry about them today.
just last night, i stopped two different groups of gangbangers just standing around talking. it’s called a TERRY STOP and it’s perfectly CONSTITUTIONAL regardless what you bigots think.
you guys can play armchair quarterback all day long but you don’t see the good that cops do because those stories never make the bigorati sites like reason because you people only want to complain about authority and it won’t fit into your preconceived notions about what cops are and what they do and how they are revered by civilians.
there are plenty of studies that show it but i have already posted them so i don’t feel the need to do it again.
and yes there is a double standard, but we’ve earned the right to it because we are heroes that put out lives on the line daily unlike you bigots that are full of hate inside.
hth.
Sloopy, you are a genius. I retract some of the things I’ve been saying behind your back.
Holy crap, it’s infectious. I’m calling in a containment crew.
Nuke the site from orbit.
It’s missing “period. full stop”
SLIP UP. You capitalized.
only when i needed to MAKE MY POINT, bigot.
hth.
Either way, yours was better.
Mine was done with love.
According to Buckaroo Banzai himself, I have no love to give.
Bravo, spot on.
“There’s no way you can prevent it. There’s absolutely no way,”
Not even with Top.Men. or The Right People In Charge?!
But we can still do something pointless, destructive, and stupid can’t we?
That’s a given. Tard.
The US can go off half-cocked with half-assed ideas all day long, John. NO ONE doea it better than the US. USA!USA!USA!
“I think that this situation absolutely requires a really futile and stupid gesture be done on somebody’s part!”
And we are just the country to do it.
From the article: “It was random. It happened. There was nothing that could have prevented that unless someone saw him loading his car with guns.”
That would lead to more than a few false positives. The FBI might be a tad overwhelmed if everyone who put four guns in a car to make a trip to the range/teach a class/go on a hunting trip got reported.
That’s just CRAZY talk.
Too soon?
I take it you saw the pic of the perp* on Drudge this afternoon?
*Alleged! Don’t ban me, bro!
Fuck off, Roberts.
No shit. Since when do administrative agencies get to materially amend statutes via regulation?
Oh, yeah. Since they started writing regulations.
Under decent legal system, the reg would get thrown out and the statute applied as written. That is not, of course, what’s about to happen in our legal system.
At least one financial experts calll bullshit, wondering why there are no signs of the money being put to use.
Not only are they ultra-greedy, but the fuckers are also Hoarders.
The. Goddamn. Nerve.
Those greedy bastards.
No doubt, it will be decried by people who fudge maximize their deductions on the taxes every year.
The government is promising to force “cowboy” financial firms to disclose the names of people using “aggressive” tax avoidance schemes.
Anyone who can read the above without barfing has a stronger constitution than I.
The comments are more revolting than the article. The UK is fucked.
We have our own half black Tony Blair right now.
Perhaps the “cowboy financial firms” should send the government a copy of it’s tax laws that allows “aggressive tax avoidance schemes”.
http://www.suntimes.com/138176…..-game.html
Teens beat man to death playing knock em out. I love the ‘expert’ who excuses this because teens don’t understand the consequences of their actions.
I bet if you hung the little bastards in front of their high school, the rest would understand the consequences of their actions real quick.
Hung them from what? Now, if they were hanged, the rest of those students would know what’s what.
Pedantic poster is pedantic.
Tautologies are tautological.
except when they’re not
The nearest tree or awning.
Malcolm is old enough to join the military and to vote. Jones and Ayala are driving age. But they aren’t old enough to understand the consequences of their actions?
It was posted earlier today, but Duke’s words ring more true here:
“The lights are growing dim Otto. I know a life of crime has led me to this sorry fate, and yet, I blame society. Society made me what I am.”
/Jones and Ayala
That it won’t/can’t happen is why I advocate a return to lynching.
Sadly and tragically, these incidents are only going to stop when an entire group of these worthless little scumbags attack the wrong person and they all end up with their heads blown off. It shouldn’t have to come to something like that, but mark my words, it’s going to eventually happen.
Under the category “that will totally solve the problem”, Toronto mayor to get additional $500K to fight gun crime. He was asking for $5 – 10 million.
Top. Men.
Jesus Christ, Toronto cut spending to fight gun crime by $9.5 million?!?!
Toronto Cuts Law Enforcement Budget $9.5 million!
I will read down the thread before I post. I will read down the thread before I post. I will read down the thread before I post…
We all commit that one from time to time.
http://www.businessweek.com/ar…..ey-trainer
Meet the monkey whisperer.
Axlerod?
Americans with guns at border use ‘cultural difference’ defence
My advice to Americans: just don’t come to Canada. You aren’t missing much anyways.
But you know some hunter in Maine will accidentally cross the border and get nailed.
Maybe they should build a fence.
And then when a bunch of Vermont kids throw rocks at Canadian Mounties and get capped, you guys will be fine with it. Right?
Yes dipshit. If they are stupid enough to throw rocks at people with guns, it is just God thinning the heard. Go Mounties!!
Canadians aren’t people. Especially not Quebecois.
THANK YOU! Finally. Been telling people this for years. Canadians aren’t people like you and me. They’re hockey-loving, doughnut-eating, Cirque-de-Soleil-watching pod-people who have learned to mimic American behavior thanks to satellite TV.
NIVEN’S FIRST LAW
Known Space version?
Never throw shit at an armed man. Also, never stand next to someone throwing shit at an armed man.
That’s the one.
I thought we already taught them not to fuck with the Green Mountain Boys.
I know people who have gone hunting in Canada. You have to do paperwork ahead of time, but you can bring a rifle or shotgun to hunt with.
And, it’s not like you can just drive across the border into the US with a gun either. There’s a shitload of paperwork to do to import a firearm.
Years ago I worked in Canada with a guy who had been a prison guard for a while. One of the guys they had locked up was in for trying to cross the border at Buffalo with a gun. My workmate said the guy still couldn’t understand why he’d been locked up.
“That’s a nice pile of finanical wealth you got there. Would be a shame if something were to happen to it.”
Voluntary donations?
Syria threatens to use chemical weapons if attacked. But remember folks no nation in the middle east other than Israel has WMDs.
http://legalinsurrection.com/2…..agination/
So a Sovereign nation will defend itself after it’s attacked? What Nerve?! I guess if certain people don’t want the lungs of their soldiers burned out they better think twice about giving a shit about that shit-hole.
The mayor of Boston wants to keep Chick-fil-A out of his city because the owners don’t support gay marriage.
The first Amendment only applies to gay porn apparently.
It’s got to be a crappy job, being a city attorney. “Hey, boss, that’s illegal and could get us in trouble.” “Who the fuck asked you?”
Also you sometimes get half your face burned off.
Right. Definitely don’t take the job in Gotham.
I think that’s good advice regardless of your career choice.
The crime is shockingly high.
It’s not even a good city to be a criminal in. Sure, you’ll be able to bribe cops really easy and make money fairly easily, but there’s also a maniac with high tech equipment and crazy training that’s going to eventually show up and beat you into a bloody pulp.
He’s not the only vigilante in the city, either. In fact, Gotham is crawling with them.
You say “vigilante” I say “private police force.”
I’ve heard that a few innocent people have been victims of such private police work.
My subdivision hired the Enforcers.
“SUE ME.”
I was playing Arkham City a few days ago (I know it’s been out a while, but I just got it when the GOTY edition came out), and was just creeping around trying to take henchmen out stealthily. I got a kick out of some of the conversations the thugs are having when you sneak up and they don’t know Batman is there. One group was trading stories about how ‘Batman broke So-and-so’s leg,” and “Batman broke three of my ribs and threw me through a wall.”
The only thing Menino is good for is mocking bits of audio.
Mumbles Menino, best political name ever.
Possibly the best part of a Boston sports team having a good season is the amount of Menino mess ups I get to hear on the radio.
Small sample.
He’s totally a fan of Tom Bradley, Wes Wexler, and Rob Grabowski.
Who keeps voting for this retard?
Mayor Thomas Menino told the Boston Herald on Thursday that he doesn’t want a business in the city “that discriminates against a population.”
There’s a difference between saying “I’m not going to support gay marriage, but I’m not going to throw bricks at married gay people” and “GTFO out of my restaurant, ya damn sodomite!”
Yeah, isn’t Menino discriminating against Christians for their believes?
Keep it up, lefties. Make me sympathize with the homophobes.
It’s really simple, leftists:
Blaming talk radio, “cross-hairs” and non-leftists in general, does not absolve murderers and other freaks who can stop themselves from committing heinous acts by simply not committing them in the first fucking place.
Start your bitching, Tony ans shrike and JoshSN and RAL. Hell, bring Nando and Fernando and dig Chad out of his grave, while you’re at it. All for naught, but it’s still fun watching you place the blame on what people read or watch or listen to on the AM waves.
It is just wish fulfillment. They want the Tea Party to be violent so they have an excuse to be violent themselves.
I can see anyone one of those asstonguers sitting on that huge stack of desks, banging the gavel in summary judgment.
Just like their echo chambers at places like DU. The stoopid is just thick out there.
“8,753,935: Workers on Disability Set Another Record in July; Exceed Population of 39 States”
http://cnsnews.com/news/articl…..-39-states
From the link, there is a 16 to 1 ratio of workers to people collecting disability. If the odds of something happening are 16 to 1, perhaps insurance isn’t the way to cover it.
Average lifetime cost = X
Rate of incidence = 16:1
Gross lifetime premium = X/17 plus taxes and overheads
There is nothing that cannot be insured for, provided that you can charge enough for it.
From the link, there is a 16 to 1 ratio of workers to people collecting disability. If the odds of something happening are 16 to 1, perhaps insurance isn’t the way to cover it.
Good news: Minka Kelly has a sextape.
Bad news: It might not be released because she was possibly underage when it was made.
Nothing ever stays secret forever. And good mother of God a 17 year old Minka Kelly?
Someone stole her boobs.
Just download it behind 7 proxies.
Jesus Christ. Was it filmed in 1995 or something?
1998. In New Mexico, if for some reason that adds to the naughtiness of it all.
Hot sun, cool nights, brown skin. Yeah, that’s working for me.
Crisp mountain air, chill bumps . . .
Oh, excuse for a moment.
Never heard of her, but she’s hot. Anyway, this may be one of the stupidest lines of reason I’ve ever read:
By that rational, if they were listening to a song that came out in 1989 then it means she may have only been 9-years old in the tape. All that album means is that the tape was made after June 8, 1998, so, unless it was during that small two week window before her birthday, she was an adult.
Mom hacks into school computer to change kids’ grades
http://www.theglobeandmail.com…..le4435438/
Next thing you know, she’ll be fucking up our missile shield system by getting the WOPR to play real Wargames.
I used to have the run of the network at my school. They solved that particular security issue by keeping the grades on a laptop in a locked closet in the principal’s office, unconnected to any network.
When I was in public school the network was a essentially a teletype terminal (with a paper tape reader) communicating with a computer across town.
In college there was one FORTRAN machine that read punch cards, and a bunch of punch card machines for us to screw up cards on. Meanwhile, back in my room was one of the first 8088 PC clones to come out of Japan.
When I was in public school we had electric typewriters. They were much more difficult to hack.
I’ve heard of worse measures…
It was effective. Quite the rarity for that administration.
5 creepiest parenting fads
My favorite
Raising a difficult child can be hell — it’s exhausting to deal with a kid who is uncooperative, endlessly demanding and spoiled. You have to try to get them ready to deal with school and the adult world beyond, all while helping them recognize their own potential as the next X-Men-style evolutionary leap forward for mankind.
Did the last part of that sentence confuse you? It certainly didn’t if you’re the proud parent of an “Indigo Child.” According to the growing Indigo Child movement, your little bratty, self-centered dick is actually a magical new life-form. Seriously, here’s how the Indigo Children website puts it:
What is an Indigo Child?
* They come into the world with a feeling of royalty (and often act like it).
*
* They have a feeling of “deserving to be here,” and are surprised when others don’t share that.
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* Self-worth is not a big issue. They often tell the parents “who they are.”
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* They have difficulty with absolute authority (authority without explanation or choice).
http://www.cracked.com/article…..ds_p2.html
Who the hell ever said the home is a Democracy? When you are four, your parents are absolute authority. And should be so.
I’m sorry, did that bullet point say “parents” and I missed it somewhere? They’re trying to make that a fucking mental disease now. I forget what they’re calling it.
REad the whole thing. It is a bunch of YUPIE parents pretending their ill behaved Brats are new forms of life.
Can’t, cracked is blocked at work. I just think that that particular trait is to be admired.
Never raised a dog or a child, have you?
Or lived next door to an “indigo” version of either.
Dogs, yes. I wasn’t aware canines had inalienable rights.
Only one of those bullet points dealt with parents specifically. I don’t have to think too hard to remember retarded teachers I had as a child, deserving of absolutely no respect whatsoever.
Oppositional/Defiant “Disorder”
Those that like being told what to do are the ones with the problem.
If your default mode is throw hissy fits unless and until everyone caters to your whims, I would say you are the one with the problem.
Nothing a little chloroform wouldn’t fix.
I don’t throw fits. But I will make you pay later for it. My mom is going in the crookedest nursing home I can find.
When I make a vow it stays vowed.
The she-spawn has shown me that there is something to that diagnosis; it’s more than just bratty kids. Think terrible 2’s that never ends and only worsens as they get older. Then throw in some industrial strength anxiety to boot. Fun stuff.
She does have some insight. I bought her the shirt of ultimate disambiguation for Xmas and she loved it.
Oppositional Defiance Disorder exists.
It’s not asking “why?” when the teacher says “FDR was super-awesome”.
It’s when you tell a kid that jumping out the car window is dangerous at 60mph and they promptly do it to show you who’s boss.
Of course, authority figures love to claim that the first group are suffering from the disorder and thus call it into disrepute.
It’s when you tell a kid that jumping out the car window is dangerous at 60mph and they promptly do it to show you who’s boss.
With us it was mostly when you ask them to do something without any advance warning. It’s more than simple defiance.
You have to learn how to navigate the mood swings and heel digging. I’ve managed to keep communications open with her and at the same time, give her nothing to rebel against except parental authority in general.
I was always the kid who had to burn his hand on the stove to learn it was hot. And I think I’m a better person for it.
It’s when you tell a kid that jumping out the car window is dangerous at 60mph and they promptly do it to show you who’s boss.
Yep…they’re the boss for about 6/10ths of a second until contact with the pavement.
Hope you enjoyed your partial second of absolute authority!
I set out to TRY to raise a kid like that.
Just to see if he could be the Galt Monster that Ate Sheboygan.
And wouldn’t you know it? The little fucker is turning out the exact opposite.
The other day we were driving around and he’s in the back in his booster seat with his clipboard writing stuff down.
“Whatcha writin’, bud?”
“I’m writing down the make, model, and license plate number of bad drivers.”
“Um…what for?”
“So we can go to the police station and get them TICKETS. Tickets and FINES.”
RAGE COMICS ANGRY FACE.
You poor thing. My son called the LA County Deputies stationed at Magic Mountain “Tax leeching pigs” just loud enough for them to hear it as we were waiting on the tram.
Unfortunately, he loves school.
And both his kindergarten teacher AND the teacher’s aide are married to town cops, who both visited the class.
Add that together with his obsession with cars, and POOF. His Junion Libertarian cred is gone forever.
I’m still working on trying to undo the damage that was done when his preschool took a field trip to the food bank.
“Daddy, I don’t use these toys any more. Can we take them to the Goodwill so that kids with no toys can have them?”
(Daddy looks over shoulder to see if ghost of Ayn Rand heard and is now angered.)
Get him to read stories of Cops lighting little girls on fire and then trying to put said fire out with bullets. If he thinks that’s cool, maybe your life is another remake of The Omen.
In Somalia, er, Libertopia, we administer our own swift brand of justice gesturing and swearing loudly.
ON WHAT RAODZZZZ!1!!!!
“WASHINGTON, D.C. ? Last week the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) issued an “information memorandum” that allows mandatory work requirements for recipients of welfare benefits through the Temporary Assistance for Needy Families (TANF) program to be waived. In a letter to HHS Secretary Kathleen Sebelius, Congressman Walter B. Jones (NC-3) and 75 of his Republican colleagues emphasized their disappointment with the Obama administration’s unauthorized decision to waive the mandatory work requirement.”
http://jones.house.gov/press-r…..equirement
“[W]aive the mandatory work requirement. . .and institute a mandatory voting requirement.”
You do that stupid shit in your second term not before the election. God Obama is an incompetent.
What is possibly stupid about removing the requirement to find work in order to get paid in a time where your main disadvantage is the high number of people who aren’t working?
Because most people, thankfully are still employed. And that requirement has been wildly popular and successful. It is the kind stupid over the top liberal thing that conservatives would accuse Obama of planning in a second term.
I’m not sure if you took me seriously or not…Though now that I read my post again I can see how that wording could be viewed as pro-welfare.
I meant to snarkily point out that this is going to increase the number of people unemployed.
God Obama is an incompetent.
Nope! Clearly just an indigo child.
How can Obamacare be so tyrannical and yet so avoidable?
This was the same question I asked about people saying Bush was a fascist. If you can trash a nation’s leader in public and live to tell about it you are not in a dictatorship. If you can also openly discuss defying his law and live to tell about it you are not a slave living under fascism.
How can Obamacare be so tyrannical and yet so avoidable?
Because the nature of being tyrannical is being arbitrary not all encompassing. You are confusing totalitarian with tyrannical. They are too different things.
What can we say, we’re lucky to be governed by such idiots that they foul up their own authoritarian designs.
The surprising thing about Sarah Silverman doing a nude scene is the stocky, peasant build. She had such a thin profile in her twenties, that was unexpected, at least for me. I guess I have just not really seen her in much in the last four to six years as there were signs. Here is a safe for work picture that gives you an idea what to expect.
http://i223.photobucket.com/al…..a316af.jpg
It is not hard to imagine a long deceased relative of hers pushing a cart while escaping one of the Tsar’s pogroms.
On the other hand, her costar Michelle Phillips looks her best nude. Very perky and lithe body. She is at best slightly above average with clothes on, quite a bit above average without.
That is the one of her in the shower right? I think she has a nice body. Nice boobs. There is nothing wrong with the peasant girl look. And she is from Eastern European Jewry stock. So it makes sense that is what she would turn into.
Her boobs are nothing less than spectacular in that scene. That she gets major points. But seeing her in person when she was about twenty four or five, she was a rail with boobs. I don’t see where the squarish hip to shoulder ratio comes from unless she sprouted them out.
I just hope it doesn’t happen to Mila Kunis.
She looks like I could twist her and find a smaller Sarah inside.
Pic of Williams or it didn’t happen.
Here you go.
OK, spam filter…. let’s add some words and see if you will let me post this link, you binary shitbag.
Oh God! I wish I was a loofah.
/Captain Stillman
“Holmes’s mother suggests ABC News mischaracterized her statement”
http://www.politico.com/blogs/…..29835.html
But remember kids, only Faux News lies!
ABC got it wrong? I find that hard to believe!
The comments from the OC Register story (about the shootings and “riots” over the weekend) are just flat out disgusting.
A taste: James Johns ? Top Commenter ? Katella High School, Anaheim, CA
I’d like to make a donation.
Five boxes of .40 cal to the APD!
Stay classy, Anaheim!
The department apologized for the “accidental” unleashing of a police dog that then bit people during the demonstration.
in unrelated news, the Selma Alabama police department belatedly apologized for their use of firehoses against 1960s civil rights protestors, saying, “It wasn’t intentional; some officers didn’t realize they were black, but just really dirty; they were just trying to help. Now move along!~”
From the article:
“The report highlights the impact on the balance sheets of 139 developing countries of money held in tax havens that is put beyond the reach of local tax authorities.”
Mr Henry estimates that since the 1970s, the richest citizens of these 139 countries had amassed $7.3tn to $9.3tn of “unrecorded offshore wealth” by 2010.”
“From another angle, this study is really good news. The world has just located a huge pile of financial wealth that might be called upon to contribute to the solution of our most pressing global problems,” he said.”
How much of that $7.3T-$9.3 is owned/looted by the ruling elite of those 139 developing countries? Probably nearly all of it. They certainly aren’t going to tax themselves so that it can be spent on the solution of our most pressing global problems.
Our most pressing global problems?
That would be ALL the fine governments of the world being flat broke.
Bureaucrats and politicians out of work.
Cats and dogs living in sin.
End times.
Exactly. Once again, the 99% fails to recognize that the 1% is also comprised of government bigwigs, legislators, ambassadors, cabinet members, etc.
Oh also, how can taking someone else’s money to shovel down the sovereign debt hole solve global problems?
What problems? The debt those stupid government worshiping fucks racked up? $9.3 Billion, assuming the majority of that is not owned by the rulers, barely dents the unfunded liabilities in the U.S. alone. Taking that and throwing it down the chute of eternal idiocy will just give the victims incentive to get the fuck out of dodge and if they can’t, never make enough money to matter ever again.
Banjos and I just got a small farm and are gonna be moving in a week or so. We already have 14 hens in different stages (6 layers, 2 about to start, 6 10 week old chicks). Now there are a half dozen arenas/corrals already set up and there’s room to stable 8 horses if we choose, but we want livestock we can use.
Any suggestions on how we should start if there are any farmers out there? We’re thinking of getting goats first then a couple of piglets that are weaned and 4-6 sheep. Not too interested in cattle yet but there’s room.
I’m also thinking of converting one 1/4 acre field to a garden even though there’s already a 1/4 acre garden plotted and irrigated.
Any ideas?
Do NOT under any circumstances accept the “gift” of a peacock or two from well-meaning friends. If someone shows up with any peacock chicks, you shoot those little fuckers on the spot.
Get yourself a couple of dogs. If possible, train them to keep the goats well away from your garden.
“If someone shows up with any peacock chicks, you shoot those little fuckers on the spot.”
Isn’t shooting someone just for showing up with peacocks a little excessive?
no
No. Absolutely not. Just don’t forget to also shoot the peacocks. Also, get some pigs so you’ll have a way to dispose of the bodies.
We have three dogs (all pretty new to the family). A Great Dane that’s a year old and semi-retarded, a McNab Shepherd and a Aussie Cattle Dog/German Shepherd mix that are both 4-5 years old and pretty smart.
I really want to get peacocks though. I hear they’re great watchdogs.
So are french guineas.
I’m hankering for a few cocks now. I’m gonna go pick up a Barred Rock and I was thinking of getting a pair of Yokohamas. That’ll cure me of my peacock desires (that sounds nastier than it is) as well.
By the way, we already have 20+ producing olive trees on the property. All I need is a press and it’s homemade olive oil and jarred olives all year long.
Olive oil!? Damn, I figured you guys were starting a farm so you could churn out artisinal mayonnaise.
Good artisinal mayo uses olive oil. This has been sloopy’s plan all along. Disparage the competition then leap into the marketplace.
Blast! My plan has been uncovered. And I would have gotten away with it if it wasn’t for you meddling bastards.
Insist that Bnajos call you ‘Olivah’.
Olive trees?
Jealous.
That alone is worth the earthquake threat.
That sounds awesome.
We like the araucanas for the easter egg coloring and we like the buff orpingtons for the personality. Seems like we got an order of barred rocks in and they were all assholes. Might have been a different breed…speckled sussex? I don’t recall for sure.
No comment on your hankering for cocks. Have you spoken with Banjos about it?
Yeah, and she’s fine with it.
I’ve never heard that about the Barred Rocks.
Right now, we have:
3 Buff Orpingtons, 2 Rhode Island Reds and a White Leghorn (layers). 1 Barred Rock and 1 Rhode Island red (almost laying). 2 Ameraucana, 2 White Leghorn, 2 Reds (10 week chicks)
The kids want a couple of Polish’s and a couple of Silkies. I don’t really want to do that.
Oh, and we’ve got a 100 sf rabbit hutch as well. Yummy, tasty rabbitses.
I don’t recall for sure whether it was the barred rocks. I know, that helps right?
I just remember roving black gangs harrassing the other chickens. Pecking the shit out of the others.
I’ve thought about raising rabbits for food. I suscribe to Countryside magazine and they had a great article about it. I guess the cost per pound for the meat can be under $1. I remember the guy recalling getting over the ‘cute bunny’ thing the first time he had a several pound buck hanging off his forearm by its teeth.
The nice thing about rabbits is they’re supposedly the easiest thing in the world to slaughter, skin and clean. From what I hear, it’s about 60 minutes from grabbing their ears to the frying pan…and most of that is bleeding it.
No peacocks. Seriously.
You guys need to come up soon after we get moved in. The fair is coming Sept 12-16 as well. I think I’m gonna enter the Nut Brown and the Pale Ale as well as my salsa.
Roger that. I’ll help you excavate and pour the foundation for the shelter.
They SHIT EVERYWHERE. And they’re horrible watchdogs, despite being territorial. They only watch out for other peacocks, and they constantly squawk, LOUDLY, all day and all night.
Get a Llama. They’re good at keeping coyotes away from livestock. So long as you only have one of them, they’ll imprint on the herd and defend it like their own.
The farm next door and one down the road has been doing this to protect their sheep and goats, and it’s worked pretty damn well. The people with the goats started doing it after they had all of their goats slaughtered by coyotes. Since then they haven’t suffered a loss that I’ve seen (they only have 4 goats, and they’re usually grazing on the hillside when I drive by).
Get a Llama.
A looper, you know, a caddy, a looper, a jock. So, I tell them I’m a pro jock, and who do you think they give me? The Dalai Lama, himself. Twelfth son of the Lama. The flowing robes, the grace, bald…striking. So, I’m on the first tee with him. I give him the driver, he hauls off and whacks one- big hitter, the Lama- long, into a ten-thousand foot crevice, right at the base of this glacier. And do you know what the Lama says? “Gunga galunga…gunga- gunga lagunga.” So we finish the eighteenth and he’s gonna stiff me. And I say, “Hey, Lama, hey, how about a little something, you know, for the effort, you know?” And he says, “Oh, uh, there won’t be any money, but when you die, on your deathbed, you will receive total consciousness.” So I got that goin’ for me, which is nice.
Caarrrlll…there is a dead human in our house.
Some of my neighbors had an emu for years protecting their livestock. Rumor is it killed a coyote once. It looked pretty badass too
I wouldn’t be surprised. They’re just a more evolved version of this, after all.
The problem is they could also fuck you up too. With a llama, most you get is spit on and kicked.
I “have” to ask why you don’t want to accept a gift peacock. Are they like really aggressive towards other animals or something?
Living with peacocks is like living with your mother-in-law. They are piercingly LOUD and they just never ever shut up.
On either end.
Half an acre in garden?
I hope Banjos likes tomatoes.
Bison.
I read that somewhere else but I want smaller animals right out of the gate. Bison scare the fuck out of me, frankly, but a chicken or goat pisses me off and out comes the killin’ pole.
Just get yourself some of bison sized exploding neck collars from Running Man and a remote detonator.
I might suggest sheep before goats.
Herbs. Dead easy to grow in bulk and farmer’s market customers will pay out the nose for them. Call them “organic and cruelty-free” or some nonsense.
Free-range dental floss.
That’s where the horse stalls come in.
Lisa needs organic braces!
Well I might
Ride along the border
With my tweezers gleamin’
In the moon-lighty night
And then I’d
Get a cuppa cawfee
N’ give my foot a push…
Just me ‘n the pymgy pony
Over the Dennil Floss Bush
Herbs blended into a emulsion of eggs, oil, and vinegar could be an interesting product. It might do well at farmer’s markets, also. Just call it “Golden State”, “Sequoia”, or “Central Valley” Mayonnaise, and use modern/retro packaging evocative of California. Package it in 4 oz. jars, and retail for say… $6. It can’t lose.
People, just trust me on this one. Jambalaya and blue cheese dressing.
Collect and farm bees. California is actually facing a declining population of bees, which are neccessary for the pollination of many crops. You could make money selling bees to almonds farmers, who have been hit the hardest due to the bee shortage. It’s why almonds are so damn expensive.
Yeah, but for the cost of a good colony, I could get 4 sheep, 2 goats and 2 pigs. Bees are just too damn expensive, nevermind the fact that I’m terribly allergic.
Seems like you are on the right track. I would go for more chickens though. I don’t know about where you live, but we have a lot of coyotes and other varmints that love to pick off the hens when given a chance. Had a hawk get one.
Also, you will need a barn cat. Don’t get too attached though. We just lost the old guy we had out here. He was 4 years old. 4! Knew the ropes, loved people, good mouser. 4 years was a long time for him. He saw others come and go but his number finally came up.
We don’t want goats or sheep so no help there. Our attack llamas try to protect the land. Just sheared them last week.
If you can handle the crops from 1/2 acre, do it.
Since you are doing birds, consider getting a couple of ducks. Great eggs for making cookies and other baked things. And you if end up with a mated pair, the ducklings are cute.
Good luck on your new adventure!
btw: we’ve had good luck with http://www.mthealthy.com for ordering our chicks. Next spring I’m going to order a set of ring-necked pheasants and just let them go. See how many make it around here.
Oh yeah, we’re gonna get some ducks as well. Probably 6-8. I’ve got to order them, though, as our feed store only gets them in the spring. Same with turkeys, but I don’t think I want any of those retarded fucks anyway.
We have a couple of white pekins. Great personalities.
If ordering in bulk, whether chickens or ducks, we’ve found people will pay a ridiculous amount for a laying hen if you put it on craigslist. We’ll buy 25 or 50, slaughter the roosters and sell off the hens we don’t want for $15-$20 each. Usually a net zero when we are done and we have roosters in the freezer and a fresh set of laying hens out of the deal.
Just rotisseried a rooster last night on the barbecue. I’ll admit they don’t taste as good as the plump, hormone injected chickens from the store but the bonus is that I knew his name and he pissed me off one day.
What about geese? And I think I’m gonna order a dozen ducks for $60 from some place in Tehachapi (Muscovy’s). They can ship them for another $10, which is cheap. The Pekins cost a bit more and I’m not sure if it’s worth it.
If its the giant pekins, they are considerably larger than a normal duck. One of our pekins is a giant (the male) and other is tufted. The tufted one is quite a bit smaller. She likes it that way though.
Probably why the pekins are more expensive…that and they are white.
Probably why the pekins are more expensive…that and they are white.
Holy shit…RRRAAAAAAAAACCCCIIIIIISSSSSTTTT!!!!!!!
Yeah! White duck power! *raises clenched fist*
Oh. And we’ve never had geese. Just heard they are mean and why bother. If one of our birds is mean, we either cook it up or lock it out of the barn for a day or so and let nature take its course.
I can’t wait to cook something I raised. I don’t know if I want to slaughter anything, but I sure want to eat it.
This is why I come to Hn’R
About goats, cutest animals on the planet, but there is nothing more smelly than a male goat with a bad surgical job on its balls. Make sure it is done right.
Didn’t Dirty Jobs do an episode on that?
No idea. My Agrarian Maoist organic farmer sister had goats. One was named Smelly.
I roasted a whole goat and did yellow curry. Tasty motherfucker. Wouldn’t have known that they smell bad.
I can’t eat goats. They’re more cute than bunnies in my opinion.
Bunnies are also delicious.
You have enough room on this farm for a secret underground lair?
SHHHHHHHHH!!!!!! Ixnay on the eltershay.
“It’s not an “underground bomb shelter.” It’s where we raise mushrooms.
Any ideas?
Plants, specifically those that produce the compound tetrahydrocannabinol.
Seriously, I thought about growing hops, but it just stays too hot and not enough rain here.
Irrigation system?
I always assumed they needed a cooler climate. Maybe I’ll look into it, but I’m not keen on building all the bine supports.
Goats are a lot easier to take care of than cows (trust me). Goat’s milk has kind of an off taste but get it cold and it tastes just fine (I grew up on it). You have to get a separator to make butter and cheese, tho.
As someone mentioned, the bucks can get pretty rank so we always had our does bred then raised the females and barbequed the males.
Again, as someone mentioned, more chickens. And think about things like game hens and waterfowl. Duck eggs are wonderful. Fowl are easy to set up automatic feeders and waterers for, to. Make your henhouse easy to clean and make a way to gather the eggs without entering the pen.
Good luck!
… “Former farmboy” Hobbit
So am I seeing now that James Holmes had plenty of money to spend on guns because he had received a federal research grant?
What was he researching? How to fuck people up?
CIA has to get ideas from somewhere, Fluffster.
What happens when a kook takes federal money instead of his meds.
He was a grad student, so a lot of that funding was probably eaten up by the university itself as “tuition”. The stipend grad students get are usually peanuts. Not sure what the COL is like in Denver.
I was practically eating out of the dumpster while I was funded by DOE as a grad student.
You would think he would research fatal rictus-inducing neurotoxins rather than buying guns. What a failure.
He’s the Joker, not Poison Ivy.
I thought that lethal smile-inducing gas was part of the Joker’s MO?
No, no. You’re confusing him with Nancy Pelosi.
Don’t feel bad, as it’s a common occurrence.
Wait, Nancy Pelosi is Poison Ivy? She did not age gracefully.
Nancy Pelosi is Poison Ivy?
Not exactly
What was that about feminism not being an enemy of libertarians again?
During the shooting multiple men dove on top of their female partner to shield them from the bullets. And I’ll bet if they had a gun they would have taken that psycho down.
Or better yet, if more women took up shooting maybe their abusive partner would think twice about harming them. The paternalism of feminism has always fascinated me.
What was that about feminism not being an enemy of libertarians again?
You’ll never heard those words from me. I grew up reading John Norman.
The first ‘d’ above was superfluous and gratuitous, and the result of puerile misogyny at its worse. Now with the multisyllable words out of the way, and spelled correctly (fuck you spell check, it is so a word), I feel renewed and ready to ready the human race. Only, better this time.
Or worse.
We had an article posted on reason recently saying something along those lines. That feminism was just misunderstood, and it was really about equal rights, and not about total government control of all facets of our lives except abortion. Needless to say, I find that laughable.
Mike Huckabee really loves Chic-fil-A, asks all supporters to eat there on August 1 in solidarity.
So that’s the other side of the Chick-fil-A narrative.
Is Huckabee *forcing* people to eat at Chick Fil A? That would be the real counterpart to what Menino is trying to do, which is forcing Bostonians *not* to eat there (or to get out of Boston, which come to think of it wouldn’t be such a bad idea).
Of course not, I have no problem with people eating at Chick-fil-A out of conscience. There is zero excuse for the authoritarian streak exhibited by the Menino.
Speaking of which, where’s Shrike? I could have sworn he told us that only so-cons use the coercive power of the state to constrain liberty when it offends their morals.
They should have signs in their stores reading “BANNED IN BOSTON!!!”
Speaking of which, where’s Shrike?
If you had been paying attention…I think his/her reason.com moniker tells you exactly where he’s been.
Sorry, can’t bring myself to eat at Chic Fil A. Yuck.
Presuming you aren’t a vegetarian, I think you are the first non-vegetarian I’ve ever seen give Chick-fil-A a “yuck.”
Charges withdrawn against teenage sexual assault victim for naming her teenage attackers.
The victim of a Louisville, KY sex assault tweeted in protest of a proposed plea deal between the prosecution and her attackers. The tweet revealed the names of her assailants. The attackers’ lawyers moved to have the victim punished for contempt of court. As the story spread, the perps’ names got even more widespread exposure across the internet.
David Mejia, the lawyer for one of the defendants, comments on how he and the lawyer for the other defendant are dropping charges.
“‘What could contempt do now?’ Mejia said in an interview, adding that the boys names have already been circulated far beyond the original tweet. ‘Seems like a rather useless exercise doesn’t it?'”
http://ow.ly/crxYV
Yes, it does, you MENSA candidate. And thanks to you, your client’s name is splattered all over the Internet, not just in the victim’s Twitter feed.
Apparently, every single mother was actually tricked by a man into having the child. I had no idea. And If Jezebel says it, it must be true.
Women are willing to have out-of-wedlock children because they misperceive the risk.
They are aware of the existence of public assistance, and aware of the existence of child support. These things inform their subconscious game theory calculation of the possible downside of having a baby without being married.
The problem is that they don’t properly account for the fact that poor men can very easily make themselves essentially judgment-proof.
If we tomorrow declared that no child support orders would be entered going forward for children born out of wedlock, the unmarried birth rate would plummet. It would plummet even among blue-collar women who probably were never going to collect any support anyway – because it would change their perception of the downside risks going in.
Make that change, and also change all public assistance programs so that they pay MORE to households with two adults instead of less, and the bastardy problem would probably be damn near solved in about nine months.
Some women look at having kids out of wedlock as a career. And secondly, the welfare for unmarried mothers and paying out less for married mothers has always struck me as bizarre.
God Bless Ice-T.
Yes, you heard me right. God Bless Ice-T.
Imbedded for your pleasure.
Excellent.
Jason Alexander, on the other hand, fails to understand the basic English in the 2nd Amendment.
What a stupid motherfucker.
He obviously doesn’t understand the definition of “regulated” or “people” from that time period.
No wonder he played the idiot on Seinfeld.
I believe tomatoes and cars have purposes other than killing.
Does getting bludgeoned with a tomato can or smashed by car make one less dead than being killed with gun?
Purpose of the object is irrelevant, the intent of the wielder is what separates a murderer from a guy making pizza sauce.
The Second Amendment according to Jason Alexander:
A well-regulated people being necessary to the security of the total state, the right of the state militia to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.
Fuck him.
It gets better.
Well if that’s correct, I go with @BrooklynAvi, let them kill with tomatoes. Let them bring baseball bats, knives, even machetes — a mob can deal with that.
Sort of like how they dealt with box cutters, Jason?
There is no excuse for the propagation of these weapons. They are not guaranteed or protected by our constitution. If they were, then we could all run out and purchase a tank, a grenade launcher, a bazooka, a SCUD missile and a nuclear warhead.
First of all, they are, given that the principle behind the Second Amendment is that the citizenry should be just as well-armed (regulated, as in, to make regular) as the military, because the citizens, according to the law, ARE the military. Every able-bodied male over the age of 18 is the militia.
Second, if you have $8.5 million (inflation-adjusted cost of an M-1 Abrams), have 3 buddies who can help you operate it, and can afford to maintain the machinery, electronics, and ordinance, more power to you. For most people, including the EVIL right-wing militias, a tank is somewhat cost prohibitive.
Grenade launchers and bazookas, are anti-personnel and anti-tank weapons respectively.
As to the nuclear warheads nonsense, it costs 6.5 billion annually to maintain the US’s arsenal of 5,400 warheads. A quick number-crunch works out to about 1.2 million per warhead. Cost prohibitive for most of us, to say nothing of the cost to actually launch the thing.
I would imagine that Jason Alexander is part of the Security 1%, so his opinion means fuck-all.
This out to interest libertarians, residents discuss secession to escape the dictates of fascist cops:
http://boston.cbslocal.com/201…..e-dispute/
The neighborhood met Sunday morning to plan their next move in a quarrel with the Town of Scituate.
Nearly 100 people attended a meeting at the South Humarock Civic Association Clubhouse. At the meeting, some residents went so far as to call Scituate town officials “Fascists,” and say Humarock needs to break away.
The latest aggravation began earlier this month, when residents claim the town was heavy-handed in enforcing a ban on bonfires.
“That was a full military operation? I mean hummers up and down the beach, state police helicopters, horseback, bomb squad, [and] a command post up the center,” said Fred Hayden, who owns a summer home in Humarock.
Massholes say Enough is enough.
About time some people in New England woke the fuck up.
Guy’s book borrows the Jack Daniels design.
Jack Daniels lawyer sends a very polite letter brimming, nay overflowing with Southern courtesy.
http://ow.ly/crIF1/