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Job Creation Sputters, Tucson Stuck With Michelle's Tab, Abusive Cops Tell Their Tale: P.M. Links

J.D. Tuccille | 5.4.2012 4:30 PM

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  • Only 115,000 new jobs were created in the U.S. in April — down from 154,000 in March. But the unemployment rate declined … because so many people gave up looking for work.

  • Not too fond of the TSA? Neither is Senator Rand Paul. He's asking the public to sign a petition supporting his bill to scrap the Transportation Security Administration.
  • Michelle Obama dropped into Tucson for a political fundraising visit, and all local taxpayers got was the hefty tab for her security detail.
  • Under pressure from lawmakers and the public, Facebook joined the Global Network Initiative, a politically favored group intended to help Internet companies doing business internationally deal with issues including privacy and free expression.
  • To win the presidency, Mitt Romney must thread a bit of an electoral needle, but his advisers insist it's do-able.
  • France's incumbent President Nicolas Sarkozy has closed the gap with his main rival, but is still expected to narrowly lose to Socialist challenger Francois Hollande. Meanwhile, Greece's conservatives are expected to win a small plurality in an election dominated by small parties, leaving the country's reaction to its economic plight up in the air.
  • In the disciplinary hearing of New Jersey police officer Regina Tasca, the officers she stopped from beating down an emotionally disturbed man were called to render their interesting version of events.

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  1. Fist of Etiquette   13 years ago

    Michelle Obama dropped into Tucson for a political fundraising visit, and all local taxpayers got was the hefty tab for her security detail.

    Small price to pay for that ray of sunshine.

    1. Alan Vanneman   13 years ago

      "Though the final cost is unknown, the security price tag for the first lady's fundraising visit will likely come in at far less than what taxpayers paid for President George W. Bush's 12-hour overnight stay in Tucson in July 2008, also to raise campaign funds.

      Bush attended a fundraiser at a private foothills home for Tim Bee, a Republican running that year against Democrat Gabrielle Giffords in Congressional District 8. It cost local taxpayers nearly $100,000 between resources used by the Tucson Police and Pima County Sheriff's departments."

      Just, you know, sayin'.*

      *And, by the way, George didn't pay.

      1. RBS   13 years ago

        Yep, you got us. Oh wait, we don't like it when the other side does it either. Or are you really going with "Where was Reason when W did..."?

        1. Groovus Maximus   13 years ago

          Anal is King of the Tu Quoque, a mysterious dance performed properly only with Wayland Flowers.

          1. sloopyinca   13 years ago

            Now, now. Joe from Lowell was DWTS-good at that shit too.

      2. Fist of Etiquette   13 years ago

        Further evidence of a war on women in this country. Taxpayers pay less for a female First Lady than they do for a penis-owning man President.

        1. Groovus Maximus   13 years ago

          Jezehellions have ovulated en masse in agreement with this.

          1. Pip   13 years ago

            Yup.

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyzaGVY782U

      3. Paul.   13 years ago

        Bush attended a fundraiser [...]

        Didn't read past.

      4. Kwanzaa Cake   13 years ago

        Bush = POTUS

        Michelle = never elected to anything

        Seems that maybe that should factor into the analysis, though of course it is objectionable for any of them to fly around the country campaigning on taxpayer dime.

      5. Tulpa the White   13 years ago

        I didn't like it when Bush was doing it either.

        And what basis do they have for claiming it will "likely" be less expensive than Bush's visit, other than wishful thinking?

        1. Coeus   13 years ago

          Did you change the name to herald the "return" of tulpa, or because you're Hispanic and these are the new rules?

          1. Tulpa the White   13 years ago

            As far as I know I'm neither Hispanic nor undead.

            1. Trespassers W   13 years ago

              *squints menacingly* That there sounds like zombie talk, son.

            2. Coeus   13 years ago

              So nothing like this then?

              1. Coeus   13 years ago

                (Trying again for reasonable)

                1. Coeus   13 years ago

                  dammit. Anyone know why reasonable won't put certain images in the post?

                  1. Hell's Librarian   13 years ago

                    Are they over 50 characters?

                  2. Night Elf Mohawk   13 years ago

                    I don't think that's an image, so much as output from code.

    2. Zeb   13 years ago

      This is why I think that there should be a law forbidding the president or his family or anyone else who gets publicly funded security should not be allowed to go anywhere not essential to their actual job unless they pay for their security themselves. And there are very few trips that the president actually needs to make. Everything could be done from the White House by teleconference. And if they need a vacation, they can go to Camp David. Why the fuck are we paying for campaign stops and vacations? Why shouldn't security be a campaign expense that every candidate needs to fund themselves?

      1. Suthenboy   13 years ago

        Dont y'all get it? The Obamas are living like Louis and Marie Antoinette on purpose. It is an in your face fuck you. They are deliberately spending as lavishly on themselves as possible and doing so in full view and if you dont like it, fuck you.

        1. Zeb   13 years ago

          I've been bothered by this since way before Obama. I really don't think the President should go anywhere. All the security bullshit is just a huge pain in the ass for everyone else in the world who doesn't want to hear some stupid speech. And to top it off, everyone gets to pay for it.

          1. Tulpa the White   13 years ago

            The Obamas are waaaaaaaay more profligate with this stuff than their predecessors. I don't recall Bush or Clinton ever going on vacations other than to Camp David or back to their homes in Texas and Arkansas.

            Chelsea certainly wasn't living it up on the Yucatan on the taxpayer dime.

        2. Mike M.   13 years ago

          Yes, Michelle Obama is a loathsome, disgusting pig.

    3. bostonaod   13 years ago

      I simply do not get why local taxpayers are on the hook for this (and W's) visit(s). Why isn't the security cost simply taken off the top of the fund-raising take?*

      *Yeah, I know. Because fuck you, that's why.

      1. AlmightyJB   13 years ago

        Dont feel too bad. Im sure the local cops received shitloads of fed money for the stimulas, wod., wot, etc. They probably would have less then half the leo's they have now without fed dollars.

  2. Fist of Etiquette   13 years ago

    But Romney's team acknowledges that any realistic course to 270 starts with winning back three historically Republican states that Obama won in 2008 - Indiana, North Carolina and Virginia - and believes that changing demographics in Virginia present a challenge.

    Are states that suddenly got swept up in Obamamania really going to be that difficult to flip back?

    1. gaijin   13 years ago

      true...I mean if Obama's numbers are so solid, why even have the election?

      1. AlmightyJB   13 years ago

        Obama likes the way you think.

        1. Virginian   13 years ago

          Uh sorry, he won my state by supressing the hell out of the military vote (boxes and boxes of absentee ballots that weren't counted) plus the wave of idiot college kids at VCU, UVA, VT, GMU, etc.

          He won't win VA again.

    2. Groovus Maximus   13 years ago

      Are states that suddenly got swept up in Obamamania really going to be that difficult to flip back?

      His Pestilency is in full vote buying mode and economic numbers are being massaged more effectively than any Swedish masseuse named Lars can. The answer to that question, IMO, is "yes".

      1. VG Zaytsev   13 years ago

        His Pestilency is in full vote buying mode

        That assumes that American voters are more honest than O.

    3. Tulpa the White   13 years ago

      Pennsylvania is ripe for the picking too.

      The problem with VA isn't changing demographics (I presume they mean race), it's the explosion of federal workers in the northeastern part of the state. AKA the only part of the country that's prospering under Obamanomics.

  3. Fist of Etiquette   13 years ago

    "My concern was that he was either going to become missing, that we were going to get into a foot pursuit with him, that we were not going to be able to locate him at some point," Thibault said. "Or, it was my concern that a tragedy was going to occur, where this might end up out in the road and where either I get hit by a car or he gets hit by a car. It was unknown what was going to happen based upon his behavior at that point."

    I remember an LEO acquaintance telling me once that well-trained police do not escalate a non-violent situation.

    1. tarran   13 years ago

      well-trained police do not escalate a non-violent situation.

      That means I've run into a high percentage of poorly trained police in my life.

      1. sloopyinca   13 years ago

        That means I've run into a high percentage of poorly trained police in my life.

        The odds of ^^this^^ happening were overwhelmingly in your favor. Finding a well-trained one is like finding a Leprechaun buttfucking a unicorn.

        1. Ska   13 years ago

          I once found a unicorn fucking a dolphin, but those aquatic mammals are randy little bastards.

        2. Brandon   13 years ago

          They used to have a show like that in Tijuana.

        3. tarran   13 years ago

          Oddly enough, the cops in my home town are pretty good - probably the result of having so many powerful people residing there.

          However, in my numerous interactions with them after my ex-wife entered her gettin-in-trouble-with-the-law phase of her downward spiral, I've been impressed by how ... fragile ... the mid level detectives' egos can be.

          The best was when one of the detectives was interviewing me in the halls of the district courthouse and discovered I had excuplpatory information that a defense attorney needed to hear. He waved the defense attorney over (good), and said "this guy has exculpatory information" (swoon), and then turned and said "I give you permission to talk to him pointing at the defense attorney (grr). Defense attorney, smiling, says "Hi, you actually can talk to me if you want regardless". The detective exploded and berated the attorney for his attitude and wouldn't stop until the attorney had cringed and abased himself sufficiently (GRRRRRRR!).

          Of course, since I could go to jail if I defend myself independently of the local security monopoly, and I have a very high chance of having the ex show up to do something dramatic, I stayed very quiet.

    2. Restoras   13 years ago

      You're LEO acquaintance must have been absent from the police academy on the day of the "fuck you, that's why" lesson.

      1. sloopyinca   13 years ago

        No problem. It's part of their daily continuing education program, IIRC.

  4. Warty   13 years ago

    For no reason at all, Tool.

    1. Restoras   13 years ago

      I'll be listening to this while on the elliptical tonight.

    2. Episiarch   13 years ago

      Yes, you are one.

      1. Warty   13 years ago

        "Look at me, I'm an impotent pervert who can only count to four! This music is confusing me, on account of I'm really dumb!"

        That was you. That's what you say.

        1. Hugh Akston   13 years ago

          Epi can only count to four? What happened to his thumb?

          1. Warty   13 years ago

            Vagina dentata accident.

            1. Groovus Maximus   13 years ago

              What's even worse is the gal didn't brush either sets of teeth. I predict sepsis in Epi's future, the kind that makes antibiotics cower in fear.

              1. Warty   13 years ago

                There is no horror like that of thumb syphilis, you know.

              2. Pip   13 years ago

                Man, I got bit clean through the thumb by a cat. Super high doses of antibiotics coupled with a real knack for healing fast and still it ran pus for seven weeks.

        2. Episiarch   13 years ago

          Four?!?

          1. Fist of Etiquette   13 years ago

            There are five lights.

            1. Trespassers W   13 years ago

              I like Star Trek.

              1. Fist of Etiquette   13 years ago

                You love it. You loooooooooooove it. You would totally pon farr it if you could.

                1. Trespassers W   13 years ago

                  Hey guys: what do you find in the toilet of the Starship Enterprise?

                  1. Fist of Etiquette   13 years ago

                    Captain's log?

                2. Hugh Akston   13 years ago

                  Not for another three years. Them's the rules.

  5. Karl Hungus   13 years ago

    Woman mauled by cheetahs at cheetah petting zoo. Husband takes lots of great pix of the action!

    1. AuH2O   13 years ago

      Great time to post the picture of the Cheetah and Dog who are friend

      Apparently, they have been raised since they were born together, so they are friends. It gives the Cheetah companionship without worries about one animal knocking the other one up.

      1. Karl Hungus   13 years ago

        It gives . . . companionship without worries about one . . . knocking the other one up.

        And really, isn't that what all great relationships are about?

      2. Karl Hungus   13 years ago

        It gives . . . companionship without worries about one . . . knocking the other one up.

        And really, isn't that what all great relationships are about?

        1. Alack   13 years ago

          And really, isn't that what all great relationships are anal sex is about?

          FTFY

          1. Karl Hungus   13 years ago

            And really, isn't that what all great relationships are anal sex is about?

            Like I said the last time this topic came up, just the thought of waking up the next morning and peeing out a brown plug is enough to keep me from ever trying anal sex. Plus, I fear that everything I find beautiful and wonderful and ethereal about the female body would be instantly dashed at the first whiff of poo.

            1. Alack   13 years ago

              Your innocence shall be your undoing.

            2. Warty   13 years ago

              So you're saying that you don't want to do horrible, disgusting, vile things to beautiful, wonderful, ethereal female bodies? Something's wrong with you, dude.

              1. Karl Hungus   13 years ago

                Something's wrong with you, dude.

                You're the one who apparently doesn't have a problem being smeared with poo . . . but there's something wrong with me?

                You scat freaks are all the same.

                1. Warty   13 years ago

                  That's why Jesus invented enema kits and emotional pressure. "You want us to stay clean, don't you, baby?"

                  1. Alack   13 years ago

                    Oh God, I find myself agreeing with Warty. What fell abyss have I stared into?

                    1. Karl Hungus   13 years ago

                      What fell abyss have I stared into?

                      The same one that Warty apparently thinks is A-OK once it's been properly irrigated.

      3. Paul.   13 years ago

        There's a reasonable chance the cheetah will kill the dog when the cheetah reaches a certain age.

        1. Karl Hungus   13 years ago

          There's a reasonable chance the cheetah will kill the dog when the cheetah reaches a certain age.

          Probably so. Even a large dog is little more than a prey item to a big cat.

          1. Paul.   13 years ago

            I watched a thing about some scientists who raised some polar bears from practically newborn cubs. They were all cute and cuddly and fun to play with. When the male bear got to a certain age, he was just unpredictable and could fly off at any random moment.

            It really hit home that wild animals are wild. And there's a point when they reach a mature age when all the wild instincts kick in. When they're little, they're just not big enough to eat you.

            1. Karl Hungus   13 years ago

              When they're little, they're just not big enough to eat you.

              That's it in a nutshell. Take Siegfried & Roy, for instance. It may very well be, as they maintain, that the tiger thought it was playtime when it mauled Roy. Point is, when an apex predator that weighs several hundred pounds (or a lot more, if you're talking about polar bears) decides it's going to be aggressive - whether out of anger or playfulness - even the strongest man out there is going to be absolutely helpless.

              1. R   13 years ago

                Point is, when an apex predator that weighs several hundred pounds (or a lot more, if you're talking about polar bears) decides it's going to be aggressive - whether out of anger or playfulness - even the strongest man out there is going to be absolutely helpless.

                And that is why we invented guns.

    2. RBS   13 years ago

      I know they were supposedly domesticated, at least as much as a cheetah can be, but really, who thinks a fucking cheetah petting zoo is a good idea?

      1. Karl Hungus   13 years ago

        . . . but really, who thinks a fucking cheetah petting zoo is a good idea?

        I bet they made money hand over fist, in which case it's a great idea. But you'd definitely have to have your customers sign an ironclad waiver before letting them step into the enclosure. Either that or some really great mauling insurance.

      2. Anacreon   13 years ago

        We went to a lion cub petting zoo in New Zealand and it was awesome. Have some great video of my then 8-year-old son playing with a little lion.

    3. Soc Indv Sparky   13 years ago

      After that first picture with the Cheetah licking its lips I'd have told my wife to stand up and calmly walk the fuck out of there.

      1. Brutus   13 years ago

        See, you're just not a higher-order European type. Those kind see the cheetah sizing up the missus and immediately think, "This will be a great photo op."

    4. plu1959   13 years ago

      Jackie's gonna get rich off your hideous disfigurement!

  6. Soc Indv Sparky   13 years ago

    Come see Douchebag v Douchebag.

    I'll let you decide who is the douchebag.

    1. Hell's Librarian   13 years ago

      Haha. I was going to post this as well, but you beat me to the punch. You should have called it "Hipster Douchebag vs Fox News Douchebag".

      Either way, listening to Hipster Douchebag talk made me lose IQ points. Every time OWS people speak they should come with a Surgeon General warning so that people who inadvertently stumble upon their ravings know they face potentially toxic levels of stupid.

      1. GILMORE   13 years ago

        OOOOOWWWWW!

        I had to stop after 1minute. It still hurts.

        1. Hell's Librarian   13 years ago

          I was laughing, I have to admit. But it is kind of painful.

  7. Groovus Maximus   13 years ago

    "We're going to spread the map as far as we can for as long as we can," said Rich Beeson, the Romney campaign's national political director. "I compare the map to something like molten lava. It just hasn't hardened yet, it's moving around, and it will continue to move around until the bell rings for the bell lap after Labor Day."

    And who said The Flopster can't rise to the occasion? Feh. Now he'll need new programming and some electoral Viagra. Unconvinced, I remain.

  8. AuH2O   13 years ago

    Shocker! Jezebel thinks Julia is super accurate and good counter to conservatives.

    Gotta love this comment:

    Republicans:

    1. See above graphic.

    2. Tell college students to borrow money from their parents (because we all have a dad just like Mittens).

    3. Institute a total free market economy, where poor people have absolutely no chance of succeeding.

    4. Deny said poor people any basic social support, and watch them wither and die.

    5. Deny the gays any basic rights, much less the right to marry, so we can save the Caucasian race.

    6. Wait until only 356 rich, white guys are left in the U.S.

    7. Bomb the Middle East, South America, and Asia.

    8. Move to Newt's brand new moon colony and wallow in retirement.

    There is, somehow, even more stupid in those comments. While no lover of the GOP... holy shit, who actually believes that crap?

    1. Soc Indv Sparky   13 years ago

      Well, I'm totally in for 3, 4, and 5. It's about time we purged all the poor people and gays, amirite?

    2. Episiarch   13 years ago

      They don't "believe" anything. They're retarded sheep. They regurgitate. There isn't enough going on in what passes for their brains to be called "belief".

      1. Pip   13 years ago

        More like cows. regurgitating and re-chewing their cud.

        1. fried wylie   13 years ago

          Sheep are ruminants too.

    3. Groovus Maximus   13 years ago

      While no lover of the GOP... holy shit, who actually believes that crap?

      Ahem, FREE HEALTH CARE! MEDICAL CARE IS A RIGHT! Remember that?

      1. Brutus   13 years ago

        Cure me, Dr. Maximus, or I'll have a civil rights suit against you before you can say, "Eric Holder's peeps."

    4. Warty   13 years ago

      Believe's got nothing to do with it.

    5. Dagny T.   13 years ago

      *barf*

      It never fails. Take something so tone-deaf, so odious and distasteful, so obviously WTFOMGBBQ ridiculous like that creepy, paternalistic graphic, and every fucking time the Jezebel morons will love it. They will swallow it all, every last drop, much unlike the semen that it is isn't is isn't feminist to do so with.

      1. Warty   13 years ago

        much unlike the semen that it is isn't is isn't feminist to do so with

        You know, that's something I've been wondering about. When is it acceptably feminist and liberated for a lady to be a slut? Is is when she's fat?

        1. AuH2O   13 years ago

          She should be about 18 stone. I don't even know how much that is, but it sure sounds fat.

          1. Warty   13 years ago

            18*14=252. That might be fat enough, maybe.

          2. Night Elf Mohawk   13 years ago

            The correct answer is 19 stone.

            1. AuH2O   13 years ago

              Imotep is invisible.

      2. plu1959   13 years ago

        BBQ?

    6. AuH2O   13 years ago

      Oh, sweet Jesus, this one is terrifying:

      Julia is me. It's so spot on. I'm 35, and I hit every one of those benchmarks (except the part of getting health insurance through my parents because that wasn't available when I was done with college) That's why the conservs hate it. It speaks to us big time.

      Okay, so can I also take this moment to point out a flaw in the Julia thing: HEADSTART HAS BEEN EMPIRICALLY PROVEN NOT TO WORK. IT IS JUST A FEEL GOOD PROGRAM THAT WE WASTE MONEY ON!

      Sorry, had to get that off my chest.

      1. Zeb   13 years ago

        And I find it generally distressing (even if it did "work") that people keep pushing more and more programs to get children under state supervision earlier and earlier.

        1. AuH2O   13 years ago

          Well, with your kids looked after by the state, you can reeneter the working world sooner, to smash the Patriarchy! Or something.

          1. Zeb   13 years ago

            Or how about this? If you can't afford to take care of them, or hire someone else to do so, don't have fucking kids.

            1. AuH2O   13 years ago

              My Body, My Choice, Your Money! Jezebel 2012

              1. Pip   13 years ago

                That's great!

            2. Tulpa the White   13 years ago

              If we allowed group marriages in this country, this wouldn't even be a problem.

            3. Coeus   13 years ago

              Or how about this? If you can't afford to take care of them, or hire someone else to do so, don't have fucking kids.

              That attitude is apparently racist.

              1. Zeb   13 years ago

                Seems even more racist to suggest that black people are incapable of using birth control effectively.

      2. Brutus   13 years ago

        It doesn't matter that it doesn't work. It's a placebo, a little placeholder for the State to remind you its cold, moist embrace is never far off.

    7. AuH2O   13 years ago

      More FFS:

      I can't help it - I teared up looking through the webcomic. I could see my life there. Things like heathcare pricing equity, subsidized BC, and the Lily Ledbetter Act really have/will improve the quality of my life, along with the lives of millions of other women. Thanks, Obama! These are things we would NEVER have seen under a McCain presidency.

      1. AuH2O   13 years ago

        The level of cynicism I had before was clearly not enough, because somehow I thought, "Hey, at worse, they will like it, because they love the idea of a cradle to grave welfare state." I never thought, "And a number will compare their life experiences to Julia, and love Obama even more."

        My monocle even comically broke. So, I guess the real question is: Whale bone or Orphan bone to reflect the new depth of my libertarian cynicism?

        1. Brutus   13 years ago

          Winston Smith's adoration for Big Brother was mere puppy love next to the Jezzies' for Obama.

      2. A Serious Man   13 years ago

        So basically: I got mine, so fuck the rest of you?

        And they think the conservaives are the selfish ones?

        1. AuH2O   13 years ago

          But if we just raise taxes on the rich, we will never run out of money! So this kind of lifestyle will be available in perpetuity to all women!

    8. Zeb   13 years ago

      Pretty much anything that ends with comfy retirement on a moon colony sounds good to me.

      I wonder if they know which 356 white guys will survive.

      1. AuH2O   13 years ago

        Also will we... er, I mean they... be accompanied by sexbots?

        1. Zeb   13 years ago

          Either that or Colombian prostitutes.

    9. Tulpa the White   13 years ago

      So it's playing well with the Jezebel readership?

      I don't think that's what BO intended it for.

      1. Fatty Bolger   13 years ago

        Obama's campaign is doing a bang up job with the "would walk over broken glass to vote for him" demographic.

      2. Brutus   13 years ago

        It's like Amanda Marcotte and John Edwards all over.

  9. RBS   13 years ago

    I don't know if anybody saw this: Mother of the Year

    1. Warty   13 years ago

      She's kinda cute for a lunatic.

      1. Zeb   13 years ago

        If I was younger and she wasn't locked up, I'd consider pretending to be her other long lost son looking for an incestuous hookup.

        Maybe not.

      2. Paul.   13 years ago

        She's kinda cute for a lunatic.

        They always are... they always are.

  10. Rich   13 years ago

    Paul is working on "multiple" TSA bills

    The one that permits each gropee to select his groper from among fellow passengers will never make it out of committee.

    1. Yertle   13 years ago

      But the one that permits each groper to select his gropee, no problem.

  11. Killazontherun   13 years ago

    Is that First Tit in that pic, or just oddly smudgy skin?

    Anyways, for the funny -- http://www.nationalreview.com/.....c-w-cooke#

    1. Zeb   13 years ago

      No, that's the second tit. The first tit is on the other side.

    2. Brutus   13 years ago

      Man, did Cooke inject that SPLC guy with that same shit the terrorist dude gave Ah-Nuld in "True Lies?" It was almost like he was telling the truth or something.

  12. Hugh Akston   13 years ago

    Not too fond of the TSA? Neither is Senator Rand Paul. He's asking the public to sign a petition supporting his bill to scrap the Transportation Security Administration.

    So Paul is helping the TSA gather new names for the No-Fly List?

    1. PersonalJustice   13 years ago

      Rand Paul Circulates Petition

    2. Paul.   13 years ago

      "I saw you murder that man in cold blood, and I'm going straight to the police to report you!"

  13. Killazontherun   13 years ago

    The warped, entitled mentality of one military family:

    http://www2.journalnow.com/ent.....r-2229757/

    My family has a long history of military service. Both my sons and my husband served in the Marines. One of our sons left and never came home. He made the ultimate sacrifice. My daughter is seriously dating a physician. Although her boyfriend is nice and respectful to us and appears to make her happy, whenever we look at him, all we can see is his lack of military service. We also cannot help but think of our son. Why should this young man get to go to school until his late 20s, get a job right away and live a totally comfortable and entitled life while other young men leave their families and never come home? My daughter thinks he is wonderful and says we are being unfair toward anybody who is not in the military. We think her boyfriend is essentially throwing our family's sacrifice in our face by living in the lap of luxury. My daughter wants us to meet his family, and we are unsure what we should do. Any suggestions?

    1. Rich   13 years ago

      By golly, vote for Romney!

      /sarc

      1. A Serious Man   13 years ago

        Doesn't Romney have five perfectly healthy sons that never served in the military? Now I don't buy into the chickenhawk fallacy, but unless they formed an all-Mormon folk singing group I don't see how Romney can connect with these kinds of people.

        1. Rich   13 years ago

          Sorry I mentioned it.

          sarc

    2. RBS   13 years ago

      I read that earlier and was filled with rage. If I could talk to the guy I would tell him to get the fuck out of there and never look back. I don't care how great the girlfriend is, she isn't worth spending your life being treated like some second class citizen.

      1. DEG   13 years ago

        Yes! Run away!

    3. Hell's Librarian   13 years ago

      Yeah, I read that and was really taken aback. I can only think that grief has screwed up their thought processes. I thought Amy's answer was pretty good (as are most of hers).

      1. plu1959   13 years ago

        That was my reaction, too. Sounds like Mama needs to do some "work."

    4. Groovus Maximus   13 years ago

      My daughter is seriously dating a physician. Although her boyfriend is nice and respectful to us and appears to make her happy, whenever we look at him, all we can see is his lack of military service.

      We really can't catch a break, can we? Damned if we do, damned if we don't. Most mothers would be creaming their jockeys over such a suitor.

      We also cannot help but think of our son. Why should this young man get to go to school until his late 20s, get a job right away and live a totally comfortable and entitled life while other young men leave their families and never come home?

      This woman is not familiar with the rigors of residency and how difficult it was for said lad to be accepted to medical school, and also not realizing how much time he probably doesn't spend at home. Totally comfortable my ass!

      Any suggestions?

      Oh, I have a couple...

      1. plu1959   13 years ago

        Too close to home?

      2. Killazontherun   13 years ago

        The Marines, it's not just a job, it's a cult.

    5. AuH2O   13 years ago

      Yes, I have a suggestion. Cry me a river, build a bridge, and get the fuck over yourself. Seriously, your noble "profession" is being trained to kill people, and there was a reason that it wasn't really until the rise of nationalism that it was considered a noble profession.

      Not to shit on service members, obviously. You do a hard and somewhat (though maybe not at current staffing levels) necessary job for our country. But I do find it weird we consider it so moral, or the intersection of soldiering and hardcore Christianity. I mean, Just War Theory aside, soldiering is a profession where you may, at some point, be asked to kill your fellow man. That seems morally tricky to me, even if that killing is an "In Self Defense" kind of thing.

      1. Apatheist ?_??   13 years ago

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Np6_b-72H3E

      2. Tulpa the White   13 years ago

        there was a reason that it wasn't really until the rise of nationalism that it was considered a noble profession.

        Which is why the best warriors were called nobles?

        1. AuH2O   13 years ago

          Eh, fair point, but even then, the bulk of soldiers were mercenaries, who got a terrible reputation.

          I suppose Rome considered it noble, but it was seen as a path to citizenship and that was also pre-Christianity.

    6. Zeb   13 years ago

      Here's some advice. Go fuck yourself. What do you expect everyone to serve in the military?

      1. Heroic Mulatto   13 years ago

        I'm doing my part, are you?
        Join the mobile infantry and save the world.
        'Service Guarantees Citizenship'

        Would you like to know more?

        1. Heroic Mulatto   13 years ago

          By the way, Starship Troopers 3 is vastly underrated. They really cranked up the satire of the War on Terror state. (Of course, Heinlein is spinning in his grave.)

        2. Pip   13 years ago

          I pay your salary.

    7. Gojira   13 years ago

      Jesus christ, I was in the army for some years, and I would punch that woman straight in the vagina. We aren't fucking heroes; most of us were guys who either wanted some scratch to pay for college, or were too goddamned stupid to have any better job prospects (and before any of you say anything, my case was the former, you fucking assholes!).

      And if you don't believe me, look at the ASVAB. You could pass that fucker if you fell asleep and your face hit the keyboard on the way down. And they sell "study guides" for it at book stores!

      1. Tulpa the White   13 years ago

        But you were (I'm guessing) a peacetime recruit. Joining the military in the midst of war/counterterrorism/kinetic action/etc connotes a different sort of motivation.

    8. Eric Johnson   13 years ago

      What the hell values and freedoms does she think the men in her family are fighting to protect? Doesn't the way of life being defended include the right to NOT be in the military?

      And she looks down on a Doctor? Really? Healing others and promoting health isn't good enough of a way to make a decent living?

      Run, unknown physician. Get away from this family fast.

    9. Fatty Bolger   13 years ago

      They're just bereaved and angry that their son is dead. They "can't help but think of their son" because that's all they ever think about. Losing a child (even after they are grown) can do terrible things to the minds of the parents. I've seen this happen first hand, twice. I feel sorry for them. Chances are good that they will stop seeing everything in terms of their son's death as time passes.

      1. Hell's Librarian   13 years ago

        Yeah, exactly. See Cindy Sheehan for another example of this. Everything she says and does is filtered through lens of the death of her child. I don't blame her (or the mother in this letter) for that; I think it is natural if ultimately unhealthy. It's hard to move on from the death of a child.

        1. Groovus Maximus   13 years ago

          It's hard to move on from the death of a child.

          I'm not unsympathetic to this point of view; however, punishing the other surviving child's life pursuits is hardly conducive to the necessary healing that must take place so the mother can regain a semblance of health. When it gets to the point that the mother is willing to essentially take everyone down with her in her grief, she runs the risk of alienating everyone around her and/or totally destroying their lives as well. Obsession to the point of insular, irrational behaviour never leads to good endings.

          1. Hell's Librarian   13 years ago

            she runs the risk of alienating everyone around her and/or totally destroying their lives as well.

            Yeah, that's what made me think of Cindy Sheehan, whose grief was so all-encompassing that it basically destroyed her family, and, I think it can be argued, her own life. You can't blame a parent for mourning a child, but you can damn sure blame them for crapping up/ on their other kid's life. The letter mom is well on her way to retracing that path.

    10. Anonymous Coward   13 years ago

      we are unsure what we should do. Any suggestions?

      GET THE FUCK OVER IT. This isn't Starship Troopers (book, not movie) and offering up your body as a sacrifice to the State is not a holy calling.

  14. Alack   13 years ago

    I'm going to an "art" show tonight. I'll let you guys know if it's something worth looking at, or if we can continue ignoring its existence.

    1. Warty   13 years ago

      "I'll take one art, please!"

      1. Episiarch   13 years ago

        "What a clever impersonation of a stupid, poor person."

      2. plu1959   13 years ago

        One of the funniest. H&R threads. Evar.

    2. Rich   13 years ago

      Just talk lots of "science". You'll score.

    3. AuH2O   13 years ago

      Is it to get laid? If it's to get laid, figure out which picture is hers/her friend's, and complement its passion and make up some shit about how it's a metaphor for humping.

      1. Paul.   13 years ago

        Seems like a short path to getting a drink thrown in your face.

        1. Coeus   13 years ago

          It's all in the presentation. The difference between you getting soaked with a drink and her getting soaked with you can be as small as the way your're standing when you spin that bullshit.

          1. Hell's Librarian   13 years ago

            Yeah. Hmmm. You could start a conversation about the sensuality inherent in the lines and curves of the piece, reminiscent of the organic symmetry of hip and breast.

            1. Groovus Maximus   13 years ago

              Yes, yes, Demonica Archiva...go on...this is a fascinating interpretation...

  15. John   13 years ago

    http://pjmedia.com/instapundit/142186/

    America's biggest douchebags.

    1. Apatheist ?_??   13 years ago

      meh.

  16. Paul.   13 years ago

    Tasca faces more than a dozen departmental charges and possible termination as a result of the April 29 incident and one on April 3, 2011, at Holy Name Medical Center. In that incident, she allegedly failed to assist Officer Jerome Fowler after he was struck by an intoxicated woman that they had taken to the hospital.

    If I were Tasca, I wouldn't want to work for any police agency that acted this way. Because you know even if she esacpes her charges, her job's going to be very tough, and you know this shit ain't isolated.

  17. B.P.   13 years ago

    Best/worst states to do business for 2012.

    http://chiefexecutive.net/best.....iness-2012

  18. AuH2O   13 years ago

    One thing to do one of these days (don't worry, I will give fair warning): Leave a link on Jezebel of reason making fun of them, and watch them get super upset and cry. And then watch them come on here to try to tell us off. That would be great.

    1. Tulpa the White   13 years ago

      Just what we need, more rathers.

      1. Paul.   13 years ago

        Without rathers, we wouldn't have registration...oh wait.

  19. John   13 years ago

    http://www.nationalreview.com/.....c-w-cooke#

    let me put on my surprised face.

    1. Warty   13 years ago

      Occupy isn't violent, because corporations. You see?

    2. Coeus   13 years ago

      This old chestnut seems appropriate here.

      1. Brutus   13 years ago

        'Bout sums it up.

    3. Trespassers W   13 years ago

      That wasn't just a mask slip. That was like taking it off for a full minute so they could reapply their eye liner.

  20. John   13 years ago

    http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/.....6RMeNknKSp

    Secret Service shows no respect to hooker.

    1. Bardas Phocas   13 years ago

      Well she's not showing a lot of respect for the Secret Service. She doesn't seem very impressed with them:
      "As far as the investigators go, just like the Secret Service agents are dumb, imagine the investigators," she said.

      1. Hell's Librarian   13 years ago

        As well she should be! They were apparently unable to tell the difference between a prostitute and an escort. And when she tried to explain the difference to them (several hundred dollars, apparently), they got all annoyed. It's enough to make any girl question a guy's intelligence!

  21. plu1959   13 years ago

    Harvard Law School lists one lone Native American faculty member on its latest diversity census report - but school officials and campaign aides for Elizabeth Warren refused to say yesterday whether it refers to the Democratic Senate candidate.

    1. John   13 years ago

      She is one of two profs at Harvard and Yale who didn't graduate from one of those two. She went to Rutgers. But she didn't falsely claim to be an Indian to get her job. No no.

    2. rac3rx   13 years ago

      Why is it all of these affirmative action idiots swear these policies are necessary, when they simultaneously claim that all of their minority hires were hired solely for merit? If you're hiring solely on merit, then you don't need affirmative action, correct?

      1. Groovus Maximus   13 years ago

        The logic couldn't more damning. There is that pesky Implicit Association Test, that keeps stonewalling repealing AA policies. Apparently, discrimination in hiring can only be proven by a lack of representation of a given segment of the population of applicants, yet to weed out the lesser qualified candidates in favor of the most qualified and desirable requires...discrimination in hiring.

        1. Mr. FIFY   13 years ago

          1/32 Indian and she thinks she's special.

    3. Hell's Librarian   13 years ago

      The fact that they refuse to comment speaks volumes.

  22. GILMORE   13 years ago

    In the disciplinary hearing of New Jersey police officer Regina Tasca, the officers she stopped from beating down an emotionally disturbed man were called to render their interesting version of events.

    interesting stuff..

    "My concern was that he was either going to become missing, that we were going to get into a foot pursuit with him, that we were not going to be able to locate him at some point," Thibault said. "Or, it was my concern that a tragedy was going to occur, where this might end up out in the road and where either I get hit by a car or he gets hit by a car. It was unknown what was going to happen based upon his behavior at that point."

    Ahh. So, naturally, Option A = Deck the guy and start wailing on him.

    Its the only way to be sure you can 'help' them later.

    Option B = Taser, natch.

    Elston contended that Thibault could have ordered Sharp to stop or be placed under arrest, and had a few moments to do so before tackling him.

    What?? What madness is this?? Clearly she didn't understand that this was an *unknown* situation, and presented a potential risk to everyone in the area... not to mention the possibility they could be hit by cars, lightning, trains, falling rocks from volcanic eruption. The only safe thing to do is attack and subdue people before even saying a word.

    1. Paul.   13 years ago

      Comedy would have been Tasca beating the crap out of the officers while shouting, "Stop resisting!"

  23. Coeus   13 years ago

    Jezzies are pissed. They're not really clear on why, but it seems they have a problem with the fact that there's a recent spate of news articles which don't focus on women.

    1. Bardas Phocas   13 years ago

      They need some 'mansplaining.'

    2. Hell's Librarian   13 years ago

      Awesome. For one thing, I absolutely love it when so-called feminists reduce human beings to their genitals.

      But even more than that, why she gives a shit about this I have no idea:

      See, it's not just men with low testosterone levels who are seeking testosterone treatment--it's also young men who just want a little extra zing in their boners. It's recreational

      WHO CARES. Also, this article is incoherent even for Jezebel.

      1. Coeus   13 years ago

        Also, this article is incoherent even for Jezebel.

        Indeed it is. The intention seems to be a comparison to birth control for recreational sex. Which would be great, if these guys were demanding free treatments.

  24. Mr. FIFY   13 years ago

    First Spouses (when the day we elect a female president comes), should just stay the fuck in the White House for four or eight years, and amuse themselves with the myriad of entertainment in-house provided by our tax dollars.

    AND they should shut the fuck up and stay out of public policy-making decisions.

    "The Derider" tried to say the above is an abridgement of the First, but fuck The Derider. We don't elect the spouses of presidents, so they should have no say in anything.

    1. Heroic Mulatto   13 years ago

      Hey now, I'd take Abigail Adams over some of her contemporary "male" founders.

      1. Mr. FIFY   13 years ago

        Point is, spouses of presidents need to shut the fuck up and not get involved in policymaking.

        1. T o n y   13 years ago

          Shooed many kids off your lawn today?

        2. T o n y   13 years ago

          How much should we limit the First Spouse's free speech rights?

          Does she have a right to limit yours in return?

  25. Hell's Librarian   13 years ago

    More tanning mom pics.

    1. Coeus   13 years ago

      How did she get orange from a tanning booth? Could someone with some experience help me out here? Isn't it only the pills or the spray that turn orange?

      1. Groovus Maximus   13 years ago

        Typically, yes. Most likely she was taking tanning pills or using a cream in conjunction with the tanning booth to get a darker effect faster, and perhaps with less tanning booth time. I would also be curious as to her diet whether or not it is high in beta carotenoids and other anti-oxidants, as they can lead to an orange pigmentation (canthaxanthin pigmentation) of the skin. Or she could have Addison's disease.

        1. Coeus   13 years ago

          Grazi

        2. fried wylie   13 years ago

          wait, tanning pills? wtf?

          1. Coeus   13 years ago

            They've been around for decades, but if you're pale enough to need them, they turn you orange. So basically useless.

  26. PantsFan   13 years ago

    Well Shit

    1. Mr. FIFY   13 years ago

      Literally.

  27. TingoZing   13 years ago

    So erreally> I never thought about that before dude.

    http://www.Privacy-Dudes.tk

  28. T o n y   13 years ago

    What a vile bunch of idiots you are.

    You know what types of people poll unfavorably toward Michelle Obama? You and racist inbred morons. I'm doing the courtesy of assuming you're not one and the same.

    This country has traditionally, owing to its alarming number of presidential assassinations, spared no expense in trying to prevent them. Those of us who don't want to see the president or his family harmed consider it a public service.

    Besides, if you want to see the presidency taken down a notch and penny pinch its security detail, you might as well wait and let the next white one take the leap, just so we can be sure it was really an idea borne of fiscal prudence.

    1. Skip   13 years ago

      Has anyone in the history of the country ever tried to assassinate the First Lady? Serious question.

  29. zamoracarl711   13 years ago

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