Mining Asteroids, Arizona Wants Its Land Back, Solar Power Foiled by Indian Burial Ground: P.M. Links

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  • This is why reasonable regulation of asteroid mining is a necessity, you crazy belters!

    A new company backed by a group of tech-oriented billionaires with an interest in space exploration is looking into mining the asteroid belt. Can space anarchy be far behind? (HT JW)

  • Attorney General Eric Holder wants more time for the government to file papers in a lawsuit launched by a civil liberties group seeking the legal records authorizing strikes that have killed U.S. citizens abroad. He's probably warming up a drone.
  • Forget the caucuses; in Minnesota's district conventions, Ron Paul mopped up the lion's share of delegates to the nominating convention, taking 20 of the available 24. Well-played, Dr. Paul.
  • Jose Padilla, who was held for years as an "enemy combatant," wants the U.S. Supreme Court to reinstate a lawsuit accusing government officials of torturing him in a South Carolina military prison. He's appealing a ruling that the courts have no jurisdiction and the military can pretty much do what it pleases with detainees. Yeah, this is in the U.S., not Guatemala.
  • In the latest evidence that westerners still aren't so fond of D.C., Arizona lawmakers passed legislation demanding the U.S. government relinquish to the state millions of acres of federal territory. Utah has passed a similar bill.
  • Two progressive priorities ran headlong into each other when ancient Native American remains were discovered on the site of the U.S. government-favored Genesis solar project.
  • Arizona's headline-bait anti-immigration law wins the support of more than two-thirds of Americans polled by Quinnipiac. Hey, police raids and ID checks can't be all bad, right?

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  1. A new company backed by a group of tech-oriented billionaires with an interest in space exploration is looking into mining the asteroid belt.

    It sounds like the Xai’darians of the Blintox 8 Sector are going to have to get their well water tested.

  2. The appellate panel also found the judiciary should defer to Congress and the executive branch in cases such as Padilla’s because litigation could potentially compromise military operations and national security issues.

    I think our checks and balances are due to be recalibrated.

    1. See?! Indefinite detention is starting to make sense, isn’t it?

  3. Two progressive priorities ran headlong into each other when ancient Native American remains were discovered on the site of the U.S. government-favored Genesis solar project.

    The pre-historic Indians were draining wetlands to build a family planning clinic.

    1. Not anymore; now we can do both at the same time! According to myth, the Earth was created in six days. Now, watch out! Here comes Genesis! We’ll do it for you in six minutes!

      1. Really, ProL; you must learn to govern your passions. They will be your undoing.

        1. I would be remiss if I didn’t mention a little film that pioneered the concept of extraterrestrial drilling. It was about a ragtag but dedicated group of roughnecks who partnered with government scientists to MAKE 800 FEET.

          1. There he is! There he is! Ah…not so wounded as we were led to believe. So much the better!

            1. Yours..is…the…superior- …..

              1. If Khan and his crew were so superior, how come they didn’t build a spacecraft and blast off of Ceti Alpha VI? [Waits for it. . . .]

                  1. A planet with only one book: Moby-Dick.

                    1. Is there any explanation as to how Khan’s crew managed to learn so quickly how to operate a starship? I assume that requires years of training.

                      And in case you wanted to know what would happen, here is Hitler vs. Khan

                    2. They just handed Khan the technical manual and said, “No secrets here. Please use your criminal brilliance to learn how to operate this ship.”

                    3. Naw, it was just like shooting womp rats in Beggar’s Canyon.

                    4. Luke never got any training on how to fly an X-Wing, come to think of it. Just hopped in and blew up the Death Star.

                    5. Yeah but Luke apparently had midichlorians, which are renowned pilots.

                    6. Yeah, whatever. They stopped making Star Wars movies in the 1980s.

                    7. Yeah, it’s a shame they never finished the third one.

                    8. Yeah, I heard they couldn’t afford to dress a bunch of guys in Wookie outfits. Too bad.

                    9. I once had the most absurd dream that Lucas went mad with merchandising lust and populated the Wookie homeworld with some kind of teddy bears that could kill armored stormtroopers.

                    10. That’s both crazy and creepy.

                    11. Apparently none of them knew that in space aerodynamics are unimportant and you can do an abrupt and sudden turn around to take out the TIE fighter on your tail.

                    12. I feel like I’ve played at least one 3D space combat simulator where that was possible.

                    13. Compare any space battle in Star Wars with the space battles seen in Battlestar Galactica.

                      The Colonial Vipers are similar to X-Wings and multiple times we see Starbuck do a backflip to take out a pursuing Cylon. I understand Lucas had to work with limited technology, but the battles would have been cooler if they had heeded actual physics.

                    14. the concept art for both SW and BSG was done by Ralph McQuarrie, hence why some of the ships look similar.

                    15. At least they didn’t have just one movie: Simple Jack. Imagine how different Wrath of Khan would have been.

      2. You must learn to govern your passions.

        1. PWN’D

          To the last, I will grapple with thee!

          1. Don’t you mean you wanted me to know first who it was who had beaten me?

              1. Three As? Really? There had to have been at least a dozen.

                1. Those are Canadian “As.”

                  1. Khehehehn!

                  2. Those are Canadian “As.”

                    AHA! I knew it!

                    1. I’m not the secret Canadian, doc. Or should I say, m?decin?

                    2. Or should I say, medecin?

                      A) NOT CANADIAN!

                      B) IF I was, I wouldn’t be Quebecois. (French speaker =/= Canadian)

                      c) The closest I’ll ever get to being Canadian is if Dagny drafted me into a sham marriage for a Canuck Green Card.

                    3. Like House? That makes you Hugh Laurie. English, not Canadian.

                    4. Like House? That makes you Hugh Laurie.

                      No, I’m a real doctor. And you’re the Limey. Though I fancy the teevee show Blackadder.

                    5. I know you’ve been doing this role for eight years, but I think it’s time you remember that you’re an actor, not a brilliant diagnostician.

                    6. I’m an excellent diagnostician. Dagny concurs, TYVM. Every physician is on stage to a certain degree. You think clinical detachment is easy?

            1. That would have been good too. Screw you.

              Humor. It is a difficult concept. It is not logical.

              1. We learn by doing… Robin Colcord.

                1. That’s low, Cliff.

                  1. I’ve decided I’ll let you nuke Dallas in order to get rid of Mary.

                    Even though it will mean my death, and that of my family, I’m willing to make that sacrifice because…

                    …wait for it…

                    the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few.

                    At my funeral I would appreciate it if one of you could comment on the relative humanness of my soul vis-a-vis all the others you have encountered.

                    1. At my funeral I would appreciate it if one of you could comment on the relative humanness of my soul vis-a-vis all the others you have encountered.

                      Pro’L Dib can wear the kilt and play “Amazing Grace” on the bagpipes.

                    2. I’m not sure I’m the proper Scotty analogue here, but if I play the pipes, it’s either going to be the Star Trek “Fightin’ Song” or “It’s a Long Way to the Top (If You Wanna Rock ‘n’ Roll).”

                    3. but if I play the pipes, it’s either going to be the Star Trek “Fightin’ Song” or “It’s a Long Way to the Top (If You Wanna Rock ‘n’ Roll).”

                      Epic FAIL! The only correct analougue is Shat’s redition of “Rocket Man”.

                    4. Jimbo: I have been, and always shall be, your associate.

                    5. “Jimbo: I have been, and always shall be, your an associate.”

                    6. Why not “Do You Think I’m Sexy” with Stuart McKenzie on vocal.

                      “We have a piper down… he’s alright, he’s just pissed.”

                    7. That movie had some great moments. Head! Down!

          2. I think I have made my intentions clear, admiral. I mean to avenge myself upon you. For the moment I have deprived your ship of power, and when I swing around again I mean to deprive you of life.

            1. Is Khan still around, or has he left on the Botany Bay? Because we could use someone who could offer the world order.

              1. Aw, man, I looked it up. He left in 1996, after the Third World War. Fuck.

                1. He fled. Why? Was he afraid?

                  1. He’s never been afraid.

                2. He was genetically altered. I’m sure there’s some intact DNA and Khan Noonian Singh genometric material in a jar somewhere.

                  1. I’d make reference to an episode of Star Trek: Enterprise that deals with the legacy of Khan and his supermen, but I kind of want to forget that show ever existed.

                    1. If you shit up Khan quotes with Enterprise, we’re going to make you wish you never existed.

                    2. I like Star Trek.

                    3. Speaking of Star Trek, where’s John been lately? It’s not like him to miss a Trayvon Martin thread.

    1. Old news, but bears repeating. I’m glad he went public with this and named names.

      Surprised he’s not been charged with wiretapping, or violating other students rights, or something.

      1. Surprised he’s not been charged with wiretapping, or violating other students rights, or something.

        First thing I thought.

      2. Well, it wasn’t the police that he taped, so they don’t care.

    2. Susan Bastnagel, Cherry Hill Public School District spokesperson declined to comment on Altenburg’s continued employment, but told The Huffington Post that the incident is a “personnel matter that the district took seriously and handled appropriately.”

      Rage… taking over… must destroy!

  4. Wired also ran a story on the asteroid mining project. The comments were a predictably sickening mixture of luddism and rent-seeking. “The planets and stars belong to us all.”

    I think they know how this is going to turn out, and it scares the shit out of them.

    1. “The planets and stars belong to us all.”

      Horseshit. If I can lay claim to a piece of Mars…dammit it’s mine. Same with asteroids. We need more noble metals and I’m ready to offer leases.

      1. Private property is bad, mmmmkay?

    2. The planets and stars belong to us all.

      Then you probably won’t miss a few asteroids, will you?

    3. Look, we can’t just go around digging holes in our 0.0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001% of the universe. What would the neighbors think?

    1. Ugh, that banner they have on the top of their page.

    2. If, however, Mitt Romney scores a “razor thin win” in Delaware, a “conservative coalition” could form around Gingrich

      Well, it *could* ….

      1. There aren’t enough coalitions of anything to form around Newt.

        1. I dunno, with such a massive ego and body he must have quite the gravitational pull.

          1. Red Dwarf?

            1. That’s just his head. Callista is the natural name for a moon though.

        2. Could Santorum form around Newt?

  5. Forget the caucuses; in Minnesota’s district conventions, Ron Paul mopped up the lion’s share of delegates to the nominating convention, taking 20 of the available 24. Well-played, Dr. Paul.

    Forget Minnesota, Paul apparently has gotten 14 of Iowa’s 28 delegates locked up so far as well. At least, according to Rachel Maddow.

    Also, if you guys aren’t going to let us use funny quotation marks and apostrophes, can you at least stop using them in your blog posts, so we can quote you without difficulty?

    1. Paul apparently has gotten 14 of Iowa’s 28 delegates locked up so far as well

      Can’t figure out where this claim comes from. The district conventions were recessed until June 15 (the day before state convention). So just under half of the state’s national delegates won’t be elected until then. The other rest of the delegates include party officials and people selected by the nominating committee. The news reports over the weekend indicate that several Paul supporters were elected to the nominating committee, but I did not see anything that said they got a majority of the nominating committee slots.

      So as far as I know, zero delegates have been locked up by anyone yet.

      1. Yeah, after I saw that this morning, I tried to find something official, but no luck.

        1. The rules are set up to make sure that no one is selected as a delegate to the national convention until the nominee is known by one and all. That way Iowa can go support the nominee with total devotion.

          1. That isn’t happening this time. Heh heh heh…

            1. It will be hard for Iowa not to send a split delegation this year.

              The Paul folks elected to the state central committe, and elected to the the nominating committe, and the delegates to the district/state convention are not going to accept “zero” for an answer.

      2. I think some district conventions have happened – I know there was one in Grinnell on Friday (damned if I know what district it was), but I spoke with one of the people who atteneded and she said that “the irritating ron paul people swamped the place because real republicans didn’t show up” She said that Paul folk were 10 of the 17 people to go to state convention.

        I have no idea how that correlates to state delegates, but there’s some on the ground reportage for ya

        1. 1st district was in Grinnell. Sounds like 10 of 17 committee members to state were Paul supporters (rules, organization, credentials, and platform committees were elected last Saturday — the people that write the rules win the game).

          The district convention was recessed without electing delegates to the national election. The district convention will reconvene the night before the state convention and will elect the national delegates then.

          This appears to be standard practice with the Republican Party of Iowa. The goal would be to make sure that only the dedicated party members show up and that less-committed new-comers get weeded out.

          However, in Paul’s case, small numbers of dedicated delegates can swamp low-turn-out events like a reconvened district convention.

  6. More boobs in the news.

    The “Save Our Boobs Bus,” decked out in pink and leather, also featured the Boob Bus Nurse Brigade and free breast cancer screening exams by a board-certified plastic surgeon. The bus was sponsored by Pornhub, an adult entertainment website.

    How long before this gets shut down because it’s sponsored by a porn site?

    1. free breast cancer screening exams by a board-certified plastic surgeon

      Dunno about you, but I’d want a radiologist or an oncologist doing breast cancer screening.

      1. “There’s only one cure for this breast cancer: implants!”

      2. Yeah, that sounds a little strange that they would have a plastic surgeon to me as well.

        I also wonder how many hidden cameras are inside the bus. Any women who use this buses service: don’t sign anything without reading it thoroughly, unless you don’t mind your boobs ending up on the internet. /sarc

      3. Or a gynecologist. A plastic surgeon doesn’t seem appropriate for this sort of thing.

  7. Holder wants more time for the government to file papers

    That reminds me. How’s that “contempt of Congress” thing getting along?

    1. Good question. Lemme check . . .

      Yup, my contempt is undiminished.

  8. Two progressive priorities ran headlong into each other when ancient Native American remains were discovered on the site of the U.S. government-favored Genesis solar project.

    Check out the link. Lame solar bones.

  9. So I saw this story and my first thought?

    POW! He was decapitated. They found his head over by the snowcone concession.

    1. Six Flags officials are uncertain why 17-year-old Asia Leeshawn Ferguson of Springfield, South Carolina scaled two six-foot fences and passed signs that said the restricted area was both off-limits and dangerous to visitors, spokeswoman Hela Sheth said in a news release.

      You know, there’s only so much you can do against stupid. Darwin wins sometimes.

      1. Why were those fences climbable, hmmmm???

        1. Slam dunk losing lawsuit for Six Flags. No moat and razor wire? Sheesh!

          1. They might still lose.

            A railroad was sued and lost when a couple of teenagers climbed over a fence, pass warning signs and climbed on top of a railroad car and then electrocuted themselves when they touched a overhead wire.

            1. An attractive nuisance.

      2. How does that explain you?

        1. Darwin loses sometimes.

          1. I see a nomination in his future.

          2. No, evolution always produces something more fit. The question you have to ask is: fit for what?

            1. Ever seen what Warty does with pregnant women and stick of butter?

              1. Pics or it didn’t happen.

      3. Six Flags officials are uncertain why 17-year-old Asia Leeshawn Ferguson of Springfield, South Carolina scaled two six-foot fences and passed signs that said the restricted area was both off-limits and dangerous to visitors…

        Let me help you….he was a moron.

      4. Because they were there.

    2. You found that story from four years ago? What were you searching for?

    3. No love for Stuart? I am disappoint…

    1. How can you stand to read that shit? What the fuck is wrong with you? It goes beyond simple masochism. No, you sir, are creepy.

      1. No, he’s crazy.

        1. This place is full of crazy creeps. Speaking of which, whatever happened to Stevo Threadkiller?

          1. He only hangs out at grylliade, I think.

            1. That’s bullshit. He was eaten by a sandworm. Very tragic.

              1. Like I said.

      2. Saccharin Man posted that stuff this morning. It has a wealth of the most ignominious comments that are beyond the pale.

        1. How much ether did you huff to gather the courage to wade into those, doc? Writing your own scripts must be nice.

          1. I am a bit sleep deprived.

        2. Shoulda figured he’d beat me to the punch on that one. It’s too ridiculous to miss notice.

      3. What the fuck is wrong with you?

        Why ask questions you really don’t want the answers to?

        1. Why would you think I don’t want answers? A view into a madman’s head can be very interesting. Especially a creepy madman.

          1. “Very well. Where do I begin? My father was a relentlessly self-improving boulangerie owner from Belgium with low-grade narcolepsy and a penchant for buggery. My mother was a 15-year old French prostitute named Chloe with webbed feet. My father would womanize, he would drink. He would make outrageous claims like he invented the question mark. Sometimes he would accuse chestnuts of being lazy. The sort of general malaise that only the genius possess and the insane lament. My childhood was typical. Summers in Rangoon, luge lessons. In the spring we’d make meat helmets. When I was insolent, I was placed in a burlap bag and beaten with reeds. Pretty standard really. At the age of 12, I received my first scribe. At the age of 14, an Zoroastrian named Vilma ritualistically shaved my testicles. There really is nothing like a shorn scrotum, it’s breathtaking I suggest you try it.”

            1. That scene is the pinnacle of that movie. Just amazing. If only the majority of Meyers’ work could be that good.

              1. He was capable of greatness. Too bad he died young like that.

                1. I heard he choked to death on Wookie fur.

              2. The kilted grandpa’s karaoke in “So I Married an Ax Murderer” was pretty close.

                1. Fucking awesome. The movie as a whole was merely enjoyable, but it had some friggin’ excellent scenes and lines.

                  1. Stuart Mackenzie: Well, it’s a well known fact, Sonny Jim, that there’s a secret society of the five wealthiest people in the world, known as The Pentavirate, who run everything in the world, including the newspapers, and meet tri-annually at a secret country mansion in Colorado, known as The Meadows.

                    Tony Giardino: So who’s in this Pentavirate?

                    Stuart Mackenzie: The Queen, The Vatican, The Gettys, The Rothschilds, *and* Colonel Sanders before he went tits up. Oh, I hated the Colonel with is wee *beady* eyes, and that smug look on his face. “Oh, you’re gonna buy my chicken! Ohhhhh!”

                    Charlie Mackenzie: Dad, how can you hate “The Colonel”?

                    Stuart Mackenzie: Because he puts an addictive chemical in his chicken that makes ya crave it fortnightly, smartass!

                    1. Love, love, love that bit.

                2. Ironicly enough I refered to that scene earlier in this thread @ 5:27.

                  1. The karaoke scene that is.

                    1. Call up grylliade, for it appears that the reason hive mind has struck again.

          2. The doll’s trying to kill me and the toaster’s been laughing at me!

    2. Hmm, there’s something oddly familiar about this…

      1. I blame asteroid fracking.

        1. Frakking asteroids!

          1. But who will protect the mining ships from Cylon Raiders?

            1. Union Aerospace Corporation of course.

    3. If they had only led with this sentence….

      “Amanda Marcotte argues that “creepy” is a “useful, commonly understood term for a set of behaviors that absolutely are a problem.”

      I wouldn’t have wasted that minute of my life.

    4. Compare and contrast.

      We already played this game this morning. And it made us all cry!

      Groovus was kind enough to save me from the horror once. I won’t make him do it again.

      1. MALE GAZE!

        1. He really is a great diagnostician. And so dreamy…

          1. But does he have facial scruff?

  10. Are PM links getting earlier every day?

    1. Tomorrow’s will be posted yesterday.

    2. Jam Doctor 2Chilly lives out in AZ. He doesn’t understand the whole EST thing, especially after Daylight Saving Time kicks in.

    3. That’s AM Links, silly.

  11. It’s about time on the Asteroid mining thing.

    Sure it is a long term expensive project, likely will take 30 years and half a trillion dollars before the first gram of ore reaches earth, but once you’ve dragged a heavy metal laden asteroid into the L4 or L5 point of the earth Moon system and started mining it your costs for extracting the rest of the metals and then refining them to incredibly pure levels (unlimited solar energy and freefall are a wonderful combination) it’s all profit from there and even a small asteroud will have multiple trillion dollars worth of metals in it.

    1. Still have the whole gravity well issue. They should have used the shuttles to build a space elevator – that would make mining asteroids immediately profitable.

      1. It costs more than you think, and you don’t know that because you don’t know anything about it.

        1. I could sell my coin collection and baseball cards…

      2. First off, the technology needed to build a space elevator is still probably a decade or more off as we have not discovered a way to mass manufacture long strands of Carbon Nanotubes and no other material we know of is strong enough for that job.

        Second, the gravity well is not so much of a problem and there are many potential solutions to it, the problem is using either disposable single use rockets or and extremely large multi-purpose science lab rather than a custom built ferry to launch payloads.

        It is a pretty safe bet that within a decade Private launch companies using their own designs will cut the cost of getting payloads to orbit down to about 5 – 7% of where it was during the Shuttle days (From ~$12000/kg down to $600 – $800/kg)

  12. Arizona and Utah should just eminent domain the land back, and make sure to get their state courts to declare that they have final jurisdiction. Then just don’t even show up in Federal Court, and issue arrest warrants for and Federal Park Rangers who won’t get off the land.

  13. Two progressive priorities ran headlong into each other when ancient Native American remains were discovered on the site of the U.S. government-favored Genesis solar project.

    Well, to be fair, the last thing the world needs is a Poltergeist-infested solar power plant.

    1. Ghost power is the greenest energy of them all.

  14. I’ve always believed that solar system exporation wouldn’t really take off until resource expoitation such as asteroid mining becomes possible. I just never thought it would be during my lifetime. Hopefully they’ll prove me wrong.

    1. Sure, there’s got to be money in it, whether it’s tourism or mining. That’s the silly thing about NASA.

      1. Really the biggest impediment has been launch costs, which were high due in no small part to NASA as well as DoD policies wrt the development of launch vehicles. Prior to SpaceX pretty much every launch vehicle development project has been run by one of those 2 agencies. They’ve shown that not only can a private company develop a launch vehicle without government “help”, but that the launch costs will be extremely low compared to comparable systems that were developed as government programs.

        Here’s hoping ULA, Lockheed Martin, Boeing, et al don’t go get their friends in the government to kill SpaceX (and any other) “New Space” competitors for them.

  15. Not wanting someone to desecrate the remains of your ancestors is a “progressive priority”? Don’t be a partisan dipshit, Tuccille.

    1. I think the “progressive priority” is: ZOMG you can’t build there, an indigenous persons bones could be buried 1000 feet below us.

      Plus, it’s not desecration so much as it is disruption, if you didn’t know the bones were there to begin with .

      1. Still not seeing it as “progressive”. Progressives have always been known to “destroy the old to make way for the new.”

      2. the whole world ain’t nothing but a giant graveyard

  16. Isn’t asteroid mining how almost every single space horror movie starts off. Right before we encounter some kind of evil alien life form.

    1. I was thinking how much I’d like to see a near-future space drama, which involved no aliens at all. Or space artifacts or any other standard trope. Just regular old people in space dealing with spacey things.

      1. I would be interested in seeing something like that. But you know Hollywood would fuck it up with something like crystal skulls or Jodie Foster.

      2. You mean like a giant asteroid on a collision course with Earth?

        1. Oh, yes, you’re right–forgot to say “No comets or asteroids heading for Earth!” Unless it’s a very special episode.

          1. What about constructing an oil rig on a non-collision course-y asteroid? Who could we hire to do such a thing?

          2. So a drama in space, where nothing happens? Like sitting in the backyard on a clear night?

      3. Just regular old people in space dealing with spacey things.

        Once again, Sean Connery comes to our rescue.

        1. That’s right, something like that. Space High Noon with space drugs and evil space companies.

          Actually, I think that’s a vastly underappreciated film.

      4. I thought they tried something similar a few years ago (at least insofar as no aliens or space artifacts go). Some show called Firefly, or something like that.

        1. More or less, but I was thinking much nearer term. Like next week, but with moon bases and maybe a little more activity beyond that.

          And no Moon blasting out of orbit, okay?

          1. “The Moon is a Harsh Mistress” miniseries? Hollywood would definitely fuck it up.

            1. Hollywood would, but HBO might not and there’d even be lots of sex scenes they could include similar to Game of Thrones.

              Also why bother with a miniseries, there is enough hinted at in the book that you could expand on it just a bit and fill a whole 3 or 4 seasons.

      1. Thank you for that. I am totally going to get it on netflix.

        1. it’s not a great flick – except for the cheeze factor, but Mathilda May is nude for a big portion of the flick, so yeah, it’s easy on the eyes.

  17. Well, the Treasury Department is dicking around and fudging the “official” debt numbers again. The big difference though is that this time, we’re not right up against the debt ceiling like we usually have been in the past.

    About all I can figure is that the administration is doing everything it can to avoid having to raise the debt ceiling before the election. It’s a rather disturbing development, as it shows there is no end to the lies that they will foist on the American people over the next several months.

  18. Okay, this is pretty awesome:

    Lovitz on Obama.

  19. “Tech-oriented billionaires” translates to “I read Niven once, and I was soooo high”.

  20. These guys really do seem to know what the deal is. WOw.

    http://www.Net-Anon.tk

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