Nobel Prize Winner Backs Anti-Gay Laws

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No, it's not Barack Obama this time, but Liberian President Ellen Johnson Sirleaf, who sat down with former war puppet Tony Blair for a wide-ranging interview on the aims of Blair's post-post-colonial Africa Governance Initiative:

The Nobel peace prize winner and president of Liberia, Ellen Johnson Sirleaf, has defended a law that criminalises homosexual acts, saying: "We like ourselves just the way we are."

In a joint interview with Tony Blair, who was left looking visibly uncomfortable by her remarks, Sirleaf told the Guardian: "We've got certain traditional values in our society that we would like to preserve."

Liberian legislation classes "voluntary sodomy" as a misdemeanour punishable by up to one year in prison, but two new bills have been proposed that would target homosexuality with much tougher sentences.

Blair, on a visit to Liberia in his capacity as the founder of the Africa Governance Initiative (AGI), a charity that aims to strengthen African governments, refused to comment on Sirleaf's remarks.

When asked whether good governance and human rights went hand in hand, the British former prime minister said: "I'm not giving you an answer on it."

"One of the advantages of doing what I do now is I can choose the issues I get into and the issues I don't. For us, the priorities are around power, roads, jobs delivery," he said.

With Sirleaf sitting to his left, Blair refused to give any advice on gay rights reforms. He let out a stifled chuckle after Sirleaf interrupted him to make it clear that Blair and his staff were only allowed to do what she said they could. "AGI Liberia has specific terms of reference…that's all we require of them," she said, crossing her arms and leaning back.

Yet again, Brave Sir Tony finds himself unfairly suffering the blowback of an American's cowboy antics, this time those of U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, whose boss won the Noble Prize for Drone Murder Peace: 

The gay rights debate erupted in Liberia after Clinton announced in December that America's foreign aid budget would promote the protection of gay rights, prompting speculation that funds would be tied to rights records.

The announcement brought unprecedented attention to homosexuality in a country where until recently gay people and lesbians lived in secret, but generally not in fear for their lives. Since Clinton's remarks, Liberian newspapers have published numerous articles and editorials describing homosexuality as "desecrating", "abusive" and an "abomination."

Many news cycles ago, when Rick Perry slammed the Obama administration for supporting special rights for foreign gays (such as the right not to be executed for liking people with similar private parts), Jacob Sullum wrote: "If it were up to me, the foreign aid budget would start at zero and stay there. But whether or not it is a justifiable use of taxpayers' money, Obama's initiative is not about 'promoting a lifestyle' or 'promoting special rights for gays'—unless you think life and liberty are special rights."

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  1. Boo, they don’t want equality, they just want to force acceptance of their lifestyle on the public! No good libertarian should want to expand state power by allowing homos to get gov’t recognition of their marriages! These positions are absolutely not a result of twisting myself into a pretzel to justify my anti-gay bias!

    1. Boo, they don’t want equality, they just want to force acceptance of their lifestyle on the public! No good libertarian should want to expand state power by allowing homos anybody to get gov’t recognition of their marriages! These positions are absolutely not a result of twisting myself into a pretzel to justify my anti-gay bias!

      FIFY

  2. If you hate Tony Blair, you’ll love Nigel Farage.

    Farage represents the UK Independents for the EU. Youtube ‘im.

  3. It’s a dumb prize. QED.

    1. Let me be perfectly clear:

      sorry, can’t think of anything right now.

  4. “One of the advantages of doing what I do now is I can choose the issues I get into and the issues I don’t. For us, the priorities are around power, roads, jobs delivery,” he said.

    There is something to be said for picking your battles. It would have been satisfying to see Blair give her the back of his hand Brit-style, but if he’s doing good work otherwise (and I don’t know that he is) it was probably better not to jeopardize that.

    1. Tony Blair? Doing good work?

  5. I wonder what it’s like to be a female president of a country that doesn’t give women full property rights. I’m hardly surprised that she’s unenthusiastic about the rights of gays.

  6. OT: Russian troops roll into Syria to assist the regime.

    http://news.yahoo.com/russian-…..-news.html

    1. I can’t wait to see the promotional photos of Putin curb-stomping Syrian rebels.

      1. You mean the ones engaged in mass killings of their own?

        1. No no no, that’s not how the narrative works. The rebels are the good guys that we have to help build a glorious egalitarian democracy, and Assad is the evil sand-Hitler that we have to blow up to do it!

          Keep it straight, asshole, or those flying murderbots will never get off the ground.

        2. You mean the ones engaged in mass killings of their own

          Citation?

    2. Oh, dear, this isn’t going to end well.

      1. Maybe it will move attention/hatred from the ME away from the US and backs towards Russia for a decade of so.

        1. It’s just not the same without the Soviet Union.

          1. Hopefully it is

    3. To Be Fair, they got Syria mixed up with Siberia.

    4. Russian troops in a ME country has never ever turned out badly before.

  7. “Jacob Sullum wrote: “If it were up to me, the foreign aid budget would start at zero and stay there.”

    Jacob Sullum is Ron Paul’s ananym?

  8. Do Obama and Sirleaf meet for dinner on occasion, arguing over who deserved his prize the least?

    1. “His” in the neuter sense, of course.

    2. Misogynist.

      1. Actually, I thought Ellen was a dude.

        1. Illiterate.

          1. Could be. There are dudes with chick names. Like that guy named Sue.

            1. Or the man they call Jayne.

              1. Well Jayne ain’t a girl. She starts on that “girl’s name” thing, I’m a show her good an’ all I got man parts.

            2. Susan.

              Can’t recall ever dating / bedding a woman named Sue or Susan. My loss.

              1. I heard Marion Morrison is gay. Zat true?

  9. The emotional response to this article one might expect of certain others would be, “go in there and kill those homophobes.”

    Emotional responses may be appropriate, but not if they entail taking other people’s stuff and other people’s kids in order to make war and impose YOUR WAY upon others.

    This is an issue for Liberians to settle, is it not?

    1. It’s certainly an issue for Liberians to settle. But we can still judge them for being hatemongering troglodytes.

      1. Agreed.

        1. We can also judge them for being hatemongering cavepeople.

          1. The only hatemongering cavepeople are Christ-fags, who are all gay.

            1. He’s right… there is no such thing as a liberal hatemonger.

      2. Glass houses and all…

    2. I think you are right on the money there Mike.
      Hugh, you are slipping….you didnt point out that in addition to being hate-mongering troglodytes, like the middle eastern fag haters, they are all in the closet. Clandestine homosexual activity is rampant in Liberia. And Mexico. The Middle East. Basically anywhere with a macho culture.

  10. unless you think life and liberty are special rights

    I’m not convinced that they’re still rights at all.

    1. Spoken like a true murcan.

  11. Funny, there is this cocksucker on wingnut media named ‘Mark Levin’ – he is a gay fascist anti-Semite piece of shit.

    Stay tuned,

    Levin will be exposed as the fascist cocksucker he is!

    1. Tom Woods kicked his ass, big time!

      No surpirse there as, ceteris paribus, anarcho-free enterprise-individualists tend to be superior to statists.

      1. I know Levin is gay, because I sucked his cock.

        1. Getting a BJ from some dude does not make you a fag.

  12. Hell, Liberia’s not all that far behind the UK.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S…..ed_Kingdom

    Following the Wolfenden report, sexual acts between two adult males, with no other people present, were made legal in England and Wales in 1967, in Scotland in 1980, Northern Ireland in 1982, Guernsey in 1983, Jersey in 1990 and the Isle of Man in 1992.

    1. Isle of Man in 1992

      So late to the party?

  13. It’s such an embarrassment. They should just discontinue the Peace Prize already.

    Give it to the best director of an action movie or something instead. Maybe give it to the World’s Hottest Chick.

    The Nobel Hot Chick Prize.

    1. That is a prize I can get behind.

    2. In the current environement, one cannot be too careful in one’s use of any noun which starts with the letter C and refers to a human female.

    3. But would the Nobel Committee accept Sarcasmic?

      1. Probably not.

        Instead, he should be proud to know that I would enthusiastically argue his case for election into the Hit & Run Commentariat Hall of Fame.

  14. Off-topic but too interesting to ignore: Pay the TSA a $100 fee to return to pre-TSA airport screening procedures. That’s right, the TSA is trying to charge people in order for them to step-down future security measures.

    1. I saw that too.

      I’d prefer to scrap TSA altogether, but this particular antic doesn’t really upset me all that much compared to the other bullshit they pull (groping old ladies, confiscating food and liquids, etc.).

    2. expect more agencies to adopt this trick.

      America: Land Where You Can Buy Your Freedom. You Dirty Goodfornothing Peasants.

  15. Frankly I’m more pleased with the progress of global gay equality than I thought I’d be 10 years ago. One must prioritize or else accomplish nothing, and basic human rights for minorities is just one priority. (Not pissing off militant right-wing groups and populations is also a priority, imo–it could make life worse for gays in the short run.)

    The NPP is obviously a political tool, and thankfully the people running things are pragmatists (when US Republicans are out of the picture) and not ideologues who stop all progress on specific hard lines.

    Gay rights is in the stage where a social movement is having occasional political victories but large social attitude victories. It’ll take less than a generation in the US, a little longer in Africa.

    1. “not ideologues who stop all progress on specific hard lines.”

      Except on Israel/Palestine and a lot of other things.

      1. Oh, and Obama won a Nobel, too, which makes him a political tool… but we make exceptions when it’s convenient.

        1. Yeah that’s what I was implying.

    2. I am shocked. I partially agree with Tony, in principle, on this issue.

      Unfortunately I disagree about the reality of it. I have spent much time in many parts of the third world and fags are universally persecuted. Saying it will take a little longer in Africa is the same as saying it will never happen there.

  16. “For us, the priorities are around power, roads, jobs delivery,”

    why does it always have to be about the roadz, why??

    1. Roads are literally thick black lines that draw the simplest possible picture for libertarians while attempting to make them understand that some basic aspects of civilization must be done collectively.

      Otherwise known as, in these parts, a subject mocked until forbidden from discussion.

      1. It’s too bad only government has the Divine Right of Road Building.

        1. Sorry, I meant “all basic aspects of civilization must be done collectively”.

  17. Tony|3.19.12 @ 7:25PM|#
    …”make them”…

    Shithead’s key words.

  18. OT:
    It is the Repubs who are ‘politicizing’ electric cars; Obama’s political pay-outs are not ‘political’ at all:
    “GM, Tesla fight politicization of electric cars”
    http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/…..1NL8OD.DTL
    Calling Tesla a ‘car company’ is a bit of a reach. They seem to be selling promises about now.

    1. There were electric cars as early as the late 1800s, so when is Obama going to adjust his “yesterday’s technology” campaign talking point?

      1. That’s racist!

      2. “so when is Obama going to adjust his “yesterday’s technology” campaign talking point?”

        ‘Bout the time he adjusts his talking points regarding choo-choos.

        1. Good point, Sevo.

  19. Potential jail time for voluntary sodomy in Liberia: 1 yr.

    Potential jail time for snagging a few frames of gay roommate kissing: 10 yr.

    Sense of proportion of American gays: non-existent

    1. jj|3.19.12 @ 8:12PM|#
      “Potential jail time for voluntary sodomy in Liberia: 1 yr.
      Potential jail time for snagging a few frames of gay roommate kissing: 10 yr.
      Sense of proportion of American gays: non-existent”

      No kidding. I didn’t know that “American gays” were capable of imposing prison sentences.
      Oh, they’re not? Can you say ‘strawman’?

    2. On the other hand, although unintentional, his example serves to illustrate the one and only entity that can actually do such things in both cases

      1. Yep, and his gripe had nothing to do with that.

  20. More OT:
    “Artist hits back at critics after Apple firestorm”
    http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/……DTL&tsp=1
    Daisey thinks his lies are really better than the truth, but:
    “Some of the most damning assertions ? that he met underage workers, people poisoned by industrial chemicals and workers crippled by repetitive strains ? have fallen apart.”
    To paraphrase the old critique of a paper:
    ‘Your piece was both alarming and true. Unfortunately, the parts that were true weren’t alarming and the parts that were alarming weren’t true.’
    Go away, gasbag.

  21. So, Blair = Bad for not standing up for gay rights. Clinton = Bad for standing up for gay rights. Also: MOIDER DRONEZ!!

  22. The Nobel Peace Prize isn’t a fucking Nobel Prize. You’re insulting the greatest minds on Earth when you equate a NPP winner with a Nobel Prize recipient.

  23. Liberia? Why are you criticizing Liberia? All the cool gay activists are criticizing *Israel:*

    “A delegation of Israeli Jews representing the “Alliance of Israeli LGBT Educational Organizations, a network of groups that support LGBT youth and families,” was visiting the West Coast last week….But in response to pressure from some left-wing activists, Seattle’s LGBT commission canceled a scheduled reception for the visitors.”…

    “”the first sign that the [Israeli] group would encounter trouble in Washington state began with a posting Monday on the Facebook page of Seattle University law professor [and the transgender activist noted above] Dean Spade, in which he called the delegation’s visit ‘apartheid and occupation’ wrapped in the rainbow flag.””

    http://volokh.com/2012/03/19/s…..activists/

    1. “Darlings, we simply *must* drive the infidel Jews into the sea!”

      “Oh, I agree, but this suicide vest makes me look fat.”

      “No, sweetheart, that dynamite vest is *you!*”

      1. “Oh, and I suppose the Martyrs’ Fund will support the registered domestic partners of suicide martyrs, right?”

        1. From the link:
          “UPDATE: A pretty good indication of where Spade is coming from politically can be found in this short essay, in which he criticizes the movement for same-sex marriage as “part of a conservative gay politics that de-prioritizes people of color, poor people, trans people, women, immigrants, prisoners and people with disabilities.”

          I wish there were some snark that even began to satirize this guy, but it doesn’t seem possible.

          1. yea, that seriously shows the absurd extent to which the left goes in their israel hate.

            israel is one of the few countries that respects gay rights. heck, in some countries in that area, it’s punishable by death for fuck’s sake

            and the LGBT group (imo) is insane to get involved in the israel/palestine issue

            what the #$(#$( does that have to do with gay rights?

            and hamas is not exactly cool with teh gay ™

            “You in the West do not live like human beings. You do not even live like animals. You accept homosexuality. And now you criticize us?” – Hamas leader Mahmoud al-Zahar

  24. So some thuggish power-bitch of some squalid shithole makes noises about sodomy and we’re paying attention? WTF?

    On the other hand, watching Blair squirm is worth something.

  25. former war puppet Tony Blair
    Murder Drone

    Do all your columns have to be at least part retarded Riggs?

  26. I hate to say it, but SirLeaf has been an excellent president of Libera. Reagan level of good. This makes her a cunt but she is still the cunt Liberia needs.

    1. I suspect that’s *not* the way she put it in her campaign literature.

  27. You know who else backed anti-gay laws…

  28. Cytoxic:
    +1000000 re: Riggs retardation.

    Plus, doncha know: all the cool kids say the best way to fight terror is to scorn those who actually do. True story.

  29. What, no references to “dey eat da poopoo”?

  30. It’s disappointing that Sirleaf Johnson would take this position, and it’s certainly not got anything to do with peace. She has some thinking to do, not least of all because of her status as a Peace Prize Laureate, but the most important thing at this point is probably not her but the younger generation.

    I was against last year’s Peace Prize award, but not against Johnson Sirleaf. Instead, I thought the award diminished the contributions of women. If you’re interested, have a look at “The Nobel Peace Prize’s problem with women” at http://bit.ly/GAHarR.

  31. Like Nazis like sodomites. Both cleverly duped the world into buying their phony lawless fascist agenda. See “The gay invention” at http://www.touchstonemag.com for why what these deranged perverts told you about sodomy is a diabolically clever lie invented by the mentally ill that has so easily fooled the world. Satan’s laughing himself sick because of how he’s leading most of the people who’ve replied here around by the nose as gullible mindless whores for sodomy doing what they tell you. Also see http://www.DrJudithReisman.org for how deranged fascist pervert child molester Kinsey almost singlehandedly destroyed American morals jurisprudence with liberals/Dems in his hip pocket where they remain to this day. Pretty sick but unsurprising for them to be in the pocket of a corpse. Like the 0ne.

    1. The last word was supposed to begin with a 0 but the spell checker changed it without my permission!

  32. Wow, I guess we no longer give a shit about journalistic standards, do we? Calling Blair a “war puppet” is something that wouldn’t be printed at a high school weekly. Riggs is the kinda guy who gives left libertarians a bad name.

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