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Congressman Mocks DEA Agent for Claiming Medical Marijuana Is Dangerous Because It Causes Water Damage

Mike Riggs | 3.5.2012 12:08 PM

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Colorado's new special DEA agent in charge (emphasis on "special") told the Denver Post late last month that medical marijuana is dangerous because it can cause water damage in houses where children live. 

"By federal law, marijuana is illegal," Barbra Roach told the Post. "There is no medical proof it has any benefit. People are not taking into account what can happen to those who are growing it. There are homes with mold and water damage in the hundreds of thousands and there are children in there too."

The drug war truly does claim a new casualty every day.

Rep. Jared Polis (D-Colo.), who Reason nominated as a possible successor to Rep. Ron Paul (R-Texas), mocked Roach on Twitter and his Facebook page last week: 

"That's just a very strange thing to say. No doubt that some idiots have flooded their basements growing marijuana. No doubt that some idiots have flooded their basements growing tomatoes. I stained my tiles in my living room last year growing narcissus. Ok. So for this we need a federal cop busting people?"

"The fact that an opponent of medical marijuana uses arguments like 'it causes water damage to homes' shows how bankrupt that side is of facts." 

Lucy Steigerwald on Colorado's raid-happy SWAT teams.  

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  1. juris imprudent   13 years ago

    This is your drain on drugs.

    1. db   13 years ago

      This deserves some applause, people.

  2. Mock Two   13 years ago

    Barbra Roach. Nice DEA name. She probably works with Jim Stone.

    1. fresno dan   13 years ago

      Yeah...and my girlfriend's name is Juggalina hottenfuk

    2. Fist of Etiquette   13 years ago

      Like an anti-drug attorney general named Holder?

  3. Pass? Fist   13 years ago

    My first (60-year-old) house had sagging floors... I wonder if marijuana caused that? /sarc

  4. Paul   13 years ago

    "There is no medical proof it has any benefit. People are not taking into account what can happen to those who are growing it. There are homes with mold and water damage in the hundreds of thousands and there are children in there too."

    Sieg Health!

    Once again, the tyranny of the modern Public Health office rules the day.

    If you can't make a logical argument, make a sentence using "mold" and "children" in the same sentence. Done and done.

  5. juris imprudent   13 years ago

    Science now confirms that being a drug warrior causes more severe damage to the cerebrum than any drug known to man.

    1. fried wylie   13 years ago

      you have to wonder if theyre using the appropriate safety gear when handling seizures. Gloves, respirators, strap-on dildos, the works.

      1. juris imprudent   13 years ago

        A large stick up the ass is no substitute for a properly fitted butt plug. I'd say that's the entry vector.

  6. John   13 years ago

    You guys are not being fair to the cop. He was talking about the water damage that occurs, after the police kick down your door, shoot the dog, start a fire with a flash grenade and the fire department shows up to put the fire out. That is the water damage caused by growing pot.

    1. AlmightyJB   13 years ago

      Yes, and also getting a** raped in prison because you were arrested for a harmless activity is in no way dangerous to anyone.

      1. John   13 years ago

        Yes, using drugs is the number one cause of ass rapes. You are correct.

        1. anon   13 years ago

          And here I thought it was Obama.

        2. R   13 years ago

          I thought that was STEVE SMITH.

  7. Steve   13 years ago

    Whenever your argument starts to break down, just start crying, say "think of the children", and use some rare case of a child being hurt to convince the sheeple to give up their liberties.

  8.   13 years ago

    Roach didn't initially plan on becoming a federal drug agent. She set her goals first on law school to study criminal law but changed her mind because she didn't desire to sit at a desk all day. "It's more fun to catch 'em than to cook 'em," she said.

    What delightful down-home humor!

    1. John   13 years ago

      Soylent Green is people

      1. Almanian   13 years ago

        And all this time I thought they were saying, "Soylent Green is PURPLE!"

        Duh!

        *forehead slap*

        1. fresno dan   13 years ago

          well, the minority people...

    2. Anonymous Coward   13 years ago

      I'm glad she finds depriving people of their liberties so life-affirming. Maybe someone will one day do her the same kindness she enjoys doing for others.

      1. fried wylie   13 years ago

        once she's eventually caught accept bribes from the cartels.

  9. Zeb   13 years ago

    Yes. The only solution to poor ventilation (gee, I wonder why the ventilation isn't too good in places where people grow pot?) is to criminalize a product. We'd better ban all other houseplants too, while we are at it. And mandate air conditioning. Some places get pretty humid and there might be danger of mold, even without pot plants growing.

    1. Colonel_Angus   13 years ago

      You would actually want to ban condensation creating air conditioners and mandate dehumidifiers, and mandate emptying those dehumidifiers.

      1. fried wylie   13 years ago

        ummmm

        "condensation creating air conditioners" ARE a form of dehumidifier....but again, only if people are tossing out the water produced.

      2. nick   13 years ago

        @the colonel: i love your name. thats what my friends used to call me in high school.

  10. Almanian   13 years ago

    Alt Test

    "Not aActually a DEA agent"

    Fixed!

  11. AlmightyJB   13 years ago

    No excuse is too small to be a fascist pig.

  12. Clippy   13 years ago

    Right now, she is choosing a city for her husband and two children to live in where no marijuana dispensaries are allowed.

    Guess who wears the pants in the Roach family!

    1. anon   13 years ago

      Know who else relocated families to a place devoid of dispensaries?

      1. Clippy   13 years ago

        FEMA?

      2. Yo   13 years ago

        Jesus?

      3. Anonymous Coward   13 years ago

        The United States government?

      4. Sparky   13 years ago

        Moses?

    2. John   13 years ago

      I am sure the dealers at her kid's high school sell a better quality of weed anyway.

      1. anon   13 years ago

        I dunno, I've seen pics of the pot they sell in dispensaries, and it looks waay better than any of the crap I smoked in high school.

        1. John   13 years ago

          True. Anything is better than ditch weed.

  13. Joshua Corning   13 years ago

    of course if pot was legal people would be more likely to grow it outside rather then in the basement.

    1. anon   13 years ago

      What makes you think this?

      FDR proved you wrong with tobacco decades ago.

      1. robc   13 years ago

        ???

        Lets look at what Joshua claimed:

        "people would be more likely to grow it outside [compared to now] rather then [sic] in the basement".

        Outside in your garden doesnt require grow lights. Cost savings. I think at least some people would shift their home op from basement to outside garden, hence, "more".

        1. anon   13 years ago

          FDR prohibited citizens from growing their own tobacco and food, if I remember correctly.

    2. Invisible Finger   13 years ago

      If pot were legal, people would buy it at the store like milk instead of growing it themselves indoors or out.

      1. robc   13 years ago

        Which is why no one homebrews beer.

        Oh wait....

        1. sarcasmic   13 years ago

          Exactly.

        2. Anonymous Coward   13 years ago

          Homebrewers are really a threat to InBev's bottom line.

          1. robc   13 years ago

            I doubt it. Most homebrewers (at least the ones I know) would be spending very little on InBev products.

            1. Anonymous Coward   13 years ago

              Sorry, I was being sarcastic. Homebrewers pose no threat to InBev just like homegrowers would pose no threat to ADP or Monsanto or whoever established the factory-produced weed in a post-legalization America.

            2. sarcasmic   13 years ago

              You mean you didn't get into homebrewing to recreate Bud Light?

              1. robc   13 years ago

                That is actually well beyond my skill level. Do you know how hard it is to make something that crappy?

                1. Anonymous Coward   13 years ago

                  I would think it would be pretty easy, seeing as how all Bud Light is is piss in a brown bottle (or can, as you prefer).

                  1. robc   13 years ago

                    Piss has way more flavor (I would assume) than Bud Light.

                    1. Anonymous Coward   13 years ago

                      I would think it depends on the health and dietary habits of the pisser.

                    2. db   13 years ago

                      My piss has more malt and hops than any "American Light Lager."

                2. sarcasmic   13 years ago

                  Do you know how hard it is to make something that crappy?

                  When there is that little flavor there is zero wiggle room.

                  I suppose that's why so many homebrewers make big IPAs.

                  Lately I've been on a simple pilsener kick where I mash 10# lager malt, use 5HBUs for bitter, and .25oz dry hop. Fermentis Saflager for yeast. Force carbonate.

                  It's pretty good.

                  1. robc   13 years ago

                    Ive got a zoigl Im going to keg on Wed.

                    Very subtle...tasted good heading into lagering.

                    While the lack of wiggle room does make things harder, that wasnt so much what I was referring to. Its the insane levels of fermentation and filtration that Bud Light (or even moreso, Bud Light Platinum) have to go thru to get rid of every residual sugar and every stray carbohydrate.

                    IIRC, most light beers end up below 1.000 FG. Ive gotten really close with saison yeast, but that is crazy.

                    1. sarcasmic   13 years ago

                      I thought they did that with very careful mashing techniques. Six row barley and nibbler instead of splitter temperatures.

                  2. db   13 years ago

                    I love a brewing challenge. While I am a big hop head, I also love great Pilseners. Getting a crisp beer without interfering off flavors is difficult but very rewarding.

                  3. db   13 years ago

                    I love a brewing challenge. While I am a big hop head, I also love great Pilseners. Getting a crisp beer without interfering off flavors is difficult but very rewarding.

                    1. sarcasmic   13 years ago

                      I find the hardest part is providing the yeast a happy temperature.

                      My lager brewing is limited to November through March. The rest of the time my basement is too warm.

                    2. db   13 years ago

                      I have a chest freezer outfitted with a dual temperature controller and a reptile heater. I can control the cerm temp to +-2 degF. Not too expensive and the benefit on every beer is worth it. I usually do a 3 step temp profile for my ales and i never have problems with off flavors anymore.

                    3. sarcasmic   13 years ago

                      I have a chest freezer outfitted with a dual temperature controller and a reptile heater.

                      I have a similar setup for my kegs.

                      For fermentation temps I'm at the mercy of the seasons.

                      Lager when the basement is cold, otherwise it's all about the ale.

                    4. sarcasmic   13 years ago

                      As far as ales go I think they come out best if they don't get above mid 60s.

                    5. db   13 years ago

                      I usually start them off at around 68F then drop to 65 for a few days then step back to 68 and then finish with about 2days at 72. The last step helps clean up off flavors.

                    6. sarcasmic   13 years ago

                      I try to keep lagers below 55.

      2. Zeb   13 years ago

        If pot were legal, people would buy it at the store like milk instead of growing it themselves indoors or out.

        I sure as fuck wouldn't. The first thing I do on the day it's legalized is start a whole bunch of seeds.

  14. PS   13 years ago

    It's easy to forget that think of the childrunz is just a clich? around these here parts.

  15. John   13 years ago

    The war on pot is really the height of surreality. Think about it. We have this weed that will grow about anywhere. And if you smoke it it may or may not do long term harm but generally makes you goofy and feel kind of stupid. And it does seem to have some medicinal value.

    And as a result of this, we spend billions of dollars and throw millions of people in jail. Really? All this over a stupid weed? We really have gone insane.

    1. EMp   13 years ago

      ^^ This... ^^

    2. Towlie   13 years ago

      That's soooo true, John. Wanna get high?

    3. robc   13 years ago

      Meanwhile states are struggling with budgets and they could save billions not enforcing pot laws while sin taxing it like alcohol and boosting revenue.

      You are wrong John, "WE" havent gone insane. They have. Im not a part of their fucking collective.

      1. John   13 years ago

        We as in "society" as a whole. Pot laws are reasonably popular or we wouldn't have them.

        If you just made it legal to grow for personal consumption, you will kill the illegal market for it. It is not hard to grow it yourself or chip into a little neighborhood collective and have your local green thumb grow it.

        1. robc   13 years ago

          Society doesnt pass laws. Government does. Society isnt that stupid, at least not the one Im a part of.

          1. John   13 years ago

            Don't ever underestimate the amount of stupidity out there. People like Roach don't come from another planet.

            1. robc   13 years ago

              But she isnt a part of my society.

              1. juris imprudent   13 years ago

                That's because you are part of high society, isn't it?

                1. FlyoverCountry   13 years ago

                  I dunno. robc has always seemed a little low-cla...Oh wait. I see what you did there.

        2. sarcasmic   13 years ago

          Pot laws are reasonably popular or we wouldn't have them.

          I don't think that's necessarily true.

          They exist because it is taboo to question them.

          It's one of those things where the vast majority of people know that pot is harmless, but you don't talk about it too openly because if the wrong person overhears (law enforcement) you may find yourself being investigated.

          It's equivalent to thoughtcrime.

          1. John   13 years ago

            Maybe so. I would like to think that they are wildly unpopular. But that people don't know just how unpopular it is and thus are afraid to express their objections.

            1. juris imprudent   13 years ago

              John, damn near everyone who ever smoked dope lies to their kids about it. That is why pot is still illegal - because of the rampant hypocrisy of our society.

              1. sarcasmic   13 years ago

                damn near everyone who ever smoked dope lies to their kids about it

                That's self preservation, not hypocrisy.

                You lie to your kids about it because you know that if "Officer Friendly" or the school's guidance counselors catch wind, they may then try take the kids away or raid the house for drugs.

              2. sarcasmic   13 years ago

                That and if they know you smoked dope, emulate you, and get caught, then they're disqualified for student loans or joining the military.

                1. R   13 years ago

                  That and if they know you smoked dope, emulate you, and get caught, then they're disqualified for student loans or joining the military.

                  These days, that might not be such a bad thing...

          2. Zeb   13 years ago

            I think that anti-pot laws were popular for a long time. But we seem to be reaching a point where most people either are against them or don't care. And the "don't care" default position seems like it might be shifting away from keeping the status quo.

          3. Nobody   13 years ago

            Thats bullshit. Miscegenation laws were reasonably popular too.
            Popularity is not a justification for a moral framework.

      2. SugarFree   13 years ago

        Way off topic...

        Check out Country Brew Brewery and Taproom. It seems to be exactly what you are working for yourself and might give you some ideas.

        1. John   13 years ago

          Now that is a first class beer joint.

        2. robc   13 years ago

          Location Im doing, wont be able to do the tap room. No by the drink service.

          I would have to be downtown in the enterprize zone (like the BBC brewery) to pull it off. That is how BBC brewery has a tap room.

        3. robc   13 years ago

          Also, Im going bigger on equipment. Ive run the numbers and its hard to make money as a brewery at that size. But...the taproom makes it possible.

          1. SugarFree   13 years ago

            They are going to expand the brewery operation soon, according to the owner I talked to Saturday night. The taproom is really to fund the expansion, they haven't even started bottling yet. They've been just viral marketing so far, and only open a month. I was there from about 6-8:30 Saturday night and they probably had 300 people in and out.

            They serve no food at all. But a taco truck is there most nights. Oh, man were those tacos good.

            1. John   13 years ago

              It being Kentucky and all, do they have a jukebox with good country music on it? If so, I might have to move to Lexington.

              1. SugarFree   13 years ago

                The jukebox wasn't plugged in, so I'm not sure. Probably not, considering it was near campus. It was mostly the older grad student crowd, medical students, and a few old fucks like me.

            2. robc   13 years ago

              BBC taproom also serves no food (this is the brewery, not the brewpub...man, that was the stupidest decision ever when they both kept the name after the split up).

              Marketing in craft beer is almost all viral. Sam Caglione of DFH discusses this...there is really no need for most craft breweries to actually spend money on traditional advertising.

              Sam Adams is basically the only one running tv commercials. Basically, because, for example, Breckinridge runs some on local tv. Probably some others do to.

              That doesnt mean marketing isnt important, its just viral, social, packaging, etc type marketing that is important.

              1. SugarFree   13 years ago

                Lexington is oddly lacking in certain types of bars, so this place was slammed. We have plenty of dudebro douchepens and sad sack alcoholic bars, but a place to go have a quiet beer and talk without shouting are either downtown (no parking, and full of hipster douches), or tiny and fill up fast.

                It's getting better, we've had three bars open since the first of the year, a craft cocktail place that I haven't put through the paces yet, Country Boy, and Lexington Beerworks, a 14 tap/no-food place. And we are getting a large gastropub downtown, run by the Pazzo's people (and they hired a actual chef, so there is hope the food will be better than Pazzo's).

                1. robc   13 years ago

                  I dont know how often you get to Louisville, have you hit any of the recent beer hot spots?

                  ATG (where Brownings used to be) or Holy Grale?

                  Germantown is exploding with restaurant/bars with great tap lineups.

                  1. SugarFree   13 years ago

                    No. We day trip to Louisville, but are rarely there during the drinking hours. We are spending the weekend in May, so I'm going to try and hit as many of the new places as I can. Holy Grale is on the top of my list.

                  2. dunkel   13 years ago

                    Gotta go to Sergio's for the sheer what-the-fuck experience.

                    1. robc   13 years ago

                      Gotta go to Sergio's for the sheer what-the-fuck experience.

                      Bring cash.

                    2. dunkel   13 years ago

                      huge pain in the ass, his cash only rule. still, i love that place.

            3. Colonel_Angus   13 years ago

              Hey, Kentucky fucks. I'm looking for some good mid day road food spots along the lines of Louisville or Lexington. Pubs, diners, or fast food. Is there any useful review sites?

              1. SugarFree   13 years ago

                The Parkette in Lexington. (Ignore the douche endorsement.) But they aren't open on Sunday. None of the really good fried chicken places are open on Sunday. God hates fried chicken.

                1. robc   13 years ago

                  Even chickens need a day of rest.

              2. robc   13 years ago

                louisvillehotbytes.com covers the louisville restaurant scene well.

              3. db   13 years ago

                Try Cumberland Brews in Louisville. Great beer, very good food.

        4. Colonel_Angus   13 years ago

          Little bland looking- inside and out.

          1. robc   13 years ago

            Outside should be, its a fucking manufacturing plant.

            Inside is boring, but I like it. Utilitarian. Funny to here that from me, isnt it.

            1. Brett L   13 years ago

              Functional.

    4. John   13 years ago

      AT the most base level, why should it be illegal to grow something in my back yard and smoke it? If you want to ban the sale and mass marketing of it for the "childrenz", okay. But to make it illegal to grow it for personal use is just bat shit insane.

      1. Zeb   13 years ago

        And to make it even more insane, growing it for personal use has much worse penalties than going out and buying it from criminals. This is why, while it is better than nothing, decriminalization is bullshit.

    5. Anonymous Coward   13 years ago

      Remember when it was unconstitutional to enjoy a fermented beverage in America?

      America has been sliding down a gentle slope into insanity for the better part of the 20th century.

      1. John   13 years ago

        This is worse than prohibition actually. The temperance movement could actually point to some real societal harms that resulted from alcohol. In the days before welfare and women being equal in the work place and the country being less wealthy, dad drinking away the paycheck leaving his family destitute was a real possibility.

        I am not defending prohibition. But the Temperance Movement could at least point to some real no kidding horror stories. Just what horror stories can the anti-weed people point to? A rash of stupid philosophizing and over consumption of Doritos? Listening to too many Grateful Dead records?

        1. Anonymous Coward   13 years ago

          By potheads are supporting Mexican drug cartels! (when the CIA isn't busy laundering money for them)

          Someone might sell marijuana to TEH CHILLUNS! (When cops aren't trying to entrap honor roll students with promises of dope-for-pussy)

          Marijuana is a gateway drug (One the count of three "correlation does not equal causation" One, two...)

          Fuck it. I just accuse drug warriors of being racists (like Harry J. Anslinger) and watch'em squirm.

          1. John   13 years ago

            That is why they say stupid shit like the above. You can't point to a horror story. No one ODs on the stuff. There is no science that says that it is particularly dangerous. There are any number of examples of well known people like Louis Armstrong, Willie Nelson and Paul McCartney who smoked the stuff daily for decades yet didn't seem any worse for wear.

            So what do you do? You link it to harder drugs that are easier to demonize. You link it to the people who sell it, hoping no one notices that the reason why criminals sell the stuff is because you made it criminal. There just isn't a rational argument to be made for pot prohibition beyond "I said so".

            1. fried wylie   13 years ago

              WHAT PART OF "BECUASE I SAID SO" DONT YOU MOLDY FUCKING PEASANTS UNDERSTAND!!111ONE

        2. Randy   13 years ago

          Don't forget illicit sex. The phrase "Sex, drugs and rock'n'roll" strikes fear in the heart of every parent that wants their children to be vigins when they marry.

          For these folks, if some drug seller or user going to jail will improve the odds that my child will avoid any bad sexual experiences growing up, it's worth it.

    6. sarcasmic   13 years ago

      All this over a stupid weed?

      The war on drug users is not about drugs.

      It's about authority.

      It is to separate out and punish those who do not blindly obey authority.

      1. Raston Bot   13 years ago

        yet nothing undermines authoritah like the drug war. hilarious.

        1. sarcasmic   13 years ago

          No society can exist unless the laws are respected to a certain degree. The safest way to make laws respected is to make them respectable. When law and morality contradict each other, the citizen has the cruel alternative of either losing his moral sense or losing his respect for the law. These two evils are of equal consequence, and it would be difficult for a person to choose between them.

          http://bastiat.org/en/the_law.html

          Unjust laws, such as laws against the use of politically incorrect chemicals, can force people to choose morality over the law.

          This undermines respect even for laws that are not unjust, especially if the person chooses a morality that is bankrupt to begin with.

          1. dunphy   13 years ago

            this imo is one of the best arguments for legalizing pot. there are a substantial # of people who EXCEPT for MJ are otherwise completely law abiding, pro police people.

            the war on pot too often puts them in a position to hide their actions and fear the police At least when holding from a trip to the dealer).

            these people should be on our side and they mostly are, but MJ turns too many against the system, since it's so arbitrary, ridiculous, and unjust. i saw tons of sally soccer mom, normal people smoking pot. normalizing it helps them again be PART of the law enforcement community (the community is our eyes and ears) more completely

            but one reality there is a LOT of people who are very pro pot decrim/legalization who are VERY anti hard drugs. whether it's rational or not, they draw a very hard bright line. i see it all the time, from community meetings, to when i was undercover.

      2. robc   13 years ago

        Worse than that, its origins are almost entirely racist. Its not so much about authority in general as White Power.

        1. John   13 years ago

          Well God Damn it to hell Rob, were we just supposed to let the colored jazz musicians smoke weed and violate our women?

          1. Randy   13 years ago

            ...were we just supposed to let the colored jazz musicians smoke weed and violate our women?

            Yes. Just not in that order.

        2. sarcasmic   13 years ago

          Its not so much about authority in general as White Power.

          If you're caught with drugs then the cop can arrest you right there. If you resist then they get to beat the shit out of you. Either way they're going to take all your stuff, and if you can't afford a lawyer you ain't getting it back.

          It's not so much White Power about just plain old power.

          1. John   13 years ago

            Yeah but they only arrest respectable white people when they have to. They tend to arrest minorities and poor people wherever possible.

            1. sarcasmic   13 years ago

              Yeah but they only arrest respectable white people who can afford to defend themselves in court when they have to. They tend to arrest minorities and poor people those who cannot wherever possible.

              ftfy

              1. dunphy   13 years ago

                in general, not really true.

                when it comes to minor pot possession, it very dependant on jurisdiction

                i worked in a small town where my chief told me he could not give a flying fuck if people were smoking pot and he did not care at all if we gave a warning or just dumped it.

                other agencies have literally a zero tolerance policy

                many jurisdictions it's decrim'd where they cant' (or at least won't if it's bifurcated as to crim/civil) even ARRESt but can at worst write a civil infraction ticket

                imo, race has zero to do with it. class may. celebrity can work AGAINST a person - as in tommy chong

                ultimately attitude matters a lot. act like dick, don't expect to be given a break. i think that holds true in most areas of life, that attitude often determines outcome

                i work with guys who havcen't made a misdemeanor (iow not a grow) MJ arrest in years. nobody cares here

    7. fresno dan   13 years ago

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....re=related

      We fought a great civil war over pot - will the carnage never end???

      1. juris imprudent   13 years ago

        Just like a WKYK sketch, this war will drag on forever.

        1. fried wylie   13 years ago

          Writing endings is hard.

  16. Raston Bot   13 years ago

    Then mandate attic fans and industrial dehumidifiers for the basement.

    But seriously, I'm glad DEA Agent Roach brought up this sensitive topic of house mold as I'm currently battling it in my attic along the eaves of the northern slope. I'm currently using 12% and 35% hydrogen peroxide to kill the existing stuff and will be installing an attic fan and cleaning out the eaves. But will it stay gone? Anyone have any experience abating this stuff?

    1. BoscoH   13 years ago

      Keep it dry and ventilated and you'll probably be OK. Attics are usually easier, so long as you don't have a roof leak or a plumbing leak that's pooling water. In basements, you may have runoff issues that have to be addressed. At any rate, with your can-do attitude you will be a master abater in no time!

  17. CTD   13 years ago

    Is no one else going to comment on the great picture? If I squint I can pretend that Ayn Rand was a naughty, naughty girl.

    1. John   13 years ago

      Someone's grandmother had a great pair of legs.

      1. Ska   13 years ago

        Hah, I was going to post "Nice gams." to keep it related to the period. 😛

    2. EscapedWestOfTheBigMuddy   13 years ago

      Well, yes.

      Does anyone know the original source?

  18. Walter   13 years ago

    duck lips

  19. Gerholdt   13 years ago

    When it comes time to get serious about the budget, DEA can be zeroed out along with TSA, Education, and HUD.

    1. fried wylie   13 years ago

      When it comes time to get serious about the budget

      BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

  20. Loki   13 years ago

    The DEA agent's name is Roach? And she's getting all pissy about medicinal roaches? Too... much... irony.

  21. 420   13 years ago

    go smoke a blunt. geez

  22. Jeffersonian   13 years ago

    "By federal law, marijuana is illegal,"

    You know, back when you all did that with booze, it required an Amendment to the Constitution. So what's changed?

    1. Ruth Bader Ginsburg   13 years ago

      That's a rhetorical question, right?

      1. dunphy   13 years ago

        and note that iirc, prohibition did not make consumption/possession illegal, only the distribution and manufacture

  23. James O'Brien   13 years ago

    The Plumber's Union called Rep. Polis' office and said they loved the idea for Federal Agents raiding homes with plumbing issues. President Obama referred to it as a "wrench-ready" stimulus plan he would support. He added under his breath- pot growers are the only small businesses I actually support, man.

  24. mark   13 years ago

    It's amazing how pervasive and stupid puritan ethics are in this country. I've never met a person that was anti-pot that has actually had any experience with it. Who cares if it has medical value or not...it should be legal merely in the name of personal freedoms.

    1. dunphy   13 years ago

      i'd beg to differ. i've met LOT of ant-pot people, even some strong anti-pot zealots who smoked it frequently when they were younger. they are definitely out there

      not that MJ is addictive, but the "reformed addict being the biggest critics" thing holds for MJ as well

  25. Nobody   13 years ago

    I wish the citizens would start killing these federal mafia thugs. They are evil people who deserve a good hanging/stabbing/sniping.

  26. dunphy   13 years ago

    isn't there some saying about "lord, please make my enemies ridiculous"?

    if this doesn't qualify , nothing does.

    it mixes anti-marijuana hysteria with OH NOES DIHYDROGEN MONOXIDE scares.

    maybe they need a petition

  27. Regan Hines   13 years ago

    Wow, thats a good one. There really is no good argument to support the drug war so I guess they have to come up with something! You can't legislate morality. Check out the article Freedom and Virtue, http://conservativesolutions.co/freedom-and-virtue

  28. Regan Hines   13 years ago

    Also, this article about Bush and Obama being brothers in tyranny. http://conservativesolutions.c.....n-tyranny/

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