"A rational immigration policy would open the United States to many more high-skill immigrants."
Writing at The Atlantic, George Mason University economist Alex Tabarrok makes the case for what he calls "the no-brainer issue of the year":
Every year, we allow approximately 140,000 employment visas, which cover people of extraordinary ability, professionals with advanced degrees, and other skilled workers. The number is absurdly low for a country with a workforce of 150 million. As a result, it can be years, even decades, before a high-skilled individual is granted a U.S. visa. Moreover, these 140,000 visas must also cover the spouse and unmarried children of the high-skilled worker, so the actual number of high-skilled workers admitted under these programs is less than half of the total. Perhaps most bizarrely there is a cap on the number of visas allowed per country regardless of population size. How many visas are allocated to people of extraordinary ability from China, a country of over 1 billion people? Exactly 2,803. The same number as are allocated to Greenland.
A rational immigration policy would open the United States to many more high-skill immigrants. High-skill immigrants innovate, patent, and start new firms at higher rates than natives. At least one-quarter of the new firms in technology and science fields, from software and semiconductors to biotech, are founded by immigrants. In Silicon Valley, more than half of the high-tech start-ups were founded by immigrants. High skill immigrants especially with degrees in the fields of science, technology, engineering and mathematics (aka: STEM) create more jobs and higher wages for Americans. Increasing high-skill immigration is such a win-win policy for increasing innovation that it's tempting to call it a no-brainer. Instead, "no-brainer" turns out to be a better description of our current policy.
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But they wouldn't use WIC vouchers!
What's wrong with "low-skilled" immigrants? My experience with "high-skilled" immigrants is that those who are good at navigating U.S. immigration are often con artists.
I have yet to meet an illegal immigrant or former illegal immigrant who isn't an asset to America.
Oh, and I forgot to mention that importing more high skilled immigrants is a no-brainer way to lose an election. "They took our jobs" and stuff.
Open borders worked for an entire century, no reason we can't just go back to that.
You can have open borders or a welfare state, but not both. And like it or not, we have a welfare state.
Beyond that, what do you want unemployed Americans to do? Just kills themselves? Migrate to other countries?
Work in the new businesses started by the immigrants?
You can have open borders or a welfare state, but not both.
You can have a welfare state that does not give welfare to immigrants or their children.
Beyond that, what do you want unemployed Americans to do?
Work. What do you want them to do?
Heh, heh, heh.
I said illegal immigrant. My understanding is that many El Salvadorans involved in gang activity came here on family or refugee visas.
You understanding is errant.
Hey, guys! Did you realize that there are criminal gangs in other countries? They could come here! Or foreigners might come here and start gangs!!! Therefore, we should keep all foreigners out!!!!! QED.
I'm sure a hardened gang-bangin', drug-dealin', stone killer who would happily come here under an open borders policy will totally change his plans if he has to fake some fucking paperwork first.
According to the gun control lobby, it would.
We agree. Heh, heh, heh.
Oi! Don't forget about us!
What are we, chopped liver?
Well you're certainly not chopped pork! 😛
"I have yet to meet an illegal immigrant or former illegal immigrant who isn't an asset to America."
Pace your narrow circle of acquaintances, the criminal courts are full of illegal alien defendants. They are not assets.
... unlike the citizens sitting waiting for their trials at the criminal courts.
As with friends and family, you can choose your immigrants but you cannot choose your citizens.
If you were a doctor, would you risk illegal entry into this country, followed by getting forged SS cards and other documentation, therefore risking not only deportation but also criminal charges for practicing X without a license and other fraud?
If you were an unskilled laborer, does it change your decision perhaps?
The problem with those hard-working illegal immigrants is they have lazy American citizen children who won't work, causing new immigrants to arrive to do the jobs they won't, who then have lazy American citizen children who won't work...
Dey took our jerbs!
But isn't this the very "rational" policy that xenophobic whiteys see as The Problem?
That we'd open the door to high-skilled immigrants making it harder for clean-cut white folks to find a job?
Or what Australian said above. Damned refresh.
Well, Paul, the original origin of immigration restrictions was such illustrous acts the Chinese Exclusion Act and racial quotas.
Immigration restrictions are deeply rooted in nationalist ideas popular in the 19th and early 20th centuries that a nation had to maintain its ethnic and racial identity.
We now have a similar tyranny in the idea that we need to have "equal" amounts of immigrants from every country in the world. Governments attempting to determine what ethnic groups of people should live where always ends badly.
And the nation was better off in the 1950's after 30 years of immigration restriction than we are now after 40+ years of open borders.
Our immigration system needs a complete overhaul.
But it ain't gonna happen with unemployment this high.
How do we stop the immigration of strange, high-ASCII?? characters into Reason blog posts? Paste it into Notepad first, then cut and paste again.
That may well be the cooelst thign ever dude.
http://www.real-web-privacy.tk
STEVE SMITH WORRY IF OPEN BORDERS ALL HIKERS WILL BE RAPED BY FOREIGNER YETIS.
AND here's the mantra:
"The goal is NOT to Find and American worker!"
http://www.youtube.com/programmersguild
And there is now even protest songs!!!
http://www.complex-numbers.com/home/dog-one.html
Lap of Luxury (The H-1B Song)
Absolute lunacy. We have millions of high skilled Americans unemployed, but the Libertarian ideologists roll on.
It is like when doctors did bloodletting with leeches, (no it is exactly the same), the weaker the patient got, the more bloodletting was called for. Eventually the patient died, as the US manufacturing economy is now.
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Unfortunately, the vast majority of H-1B and L-1 recipients are low-skilled workers, and even the standards for O visas leave a lot to be desired. The US DoL says that well over half of H-1B recipients are in the bottom quarter when it comes to skills. According to USCIS, hundreds have been approved for people who lacked the equivalent of a US high school diploma, and thousands who lacked the equivalent of a US bachelor's degree.
The numbers of F, H, J, and L visas are absurdly high for a country with only a 58.7% employed/civilian population ratio (64.4%, down from 81.6% for men; 53.3% and rising from 29.7% for women). It's especially absurd when you look more closely at how many hundreds of thousands of able and willing US citizen STEM workers are unemployed and underemployed.
It is precisely because unemployment is high -- in addition to over-population and over-crowding -- that the immigration system needs to be reformed, to establish some reasonable minimal standards and to run proper background investigations on applicants to weed out those inclined to initiate use of force or fraud.
http://www.kermitrose.com/jgoEconData.html
Larry Lebowitz of Cohen & Grigsby:
"And our goal is clearly NOT to find a qualified and interested U.S. worker.
And, you know, that in a sense that sounds funny, ahh, but it's what we're trying to do here.
We are complying with the law fully, ahh, but our objective is to get this person a green card, and to get through the labor certification process.
So certainly we are not going to try to find a place [at which to advertise the job] where the applicants are going to be the most numerous.
We're going to try to find a place where, again, we're complying with the law, and hoping, and likely, not to find qualified and interested worker applicants."
J Barton of Cohen & Grigsby:
"What we mean by if they're interested, if they don't like the salary [set well below local market levesl for the field], if they don't like the work location, they're not interested.
Or if they just don't like the job itself, they're not interested.
Um, those are ways we can disqualify them and get them out of the market, and focus on the ones who might be more qualified.
If it gets to the point where they're, somebody's looking like they're very qualified, we ask them to have the manager of that specific position step in and go over the qualifications with them.
If necessary schedule an interview, go through the whole process to find a legal basis to disqualify them for this particular position.
In most cases that doesn't seem to be a problem... you can eliminate them..."
http://www.kermitrose.com/econ200706.html#Best2007