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Obamaphiles Still Longing for Camelot

Despite setbacks, failures, and outright betrayals, Obamaphiles in the intelligentsia are finding it hard to fall out of love with "the One"

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President Obama's approval ratings are plummeting along with the Dow, and he's just lost his stare-down with House Speaker John Boehner while presiding over a historic downgrade of U.S. credit.

I don't know about peak oil theory, but it seems clear that we must have passed peak hope some time ago. The Chris Matthews-style "thrill up the leg" is rarer these days.

Even so, Obamaphiles in the intelligentsia are finding it hard to fall out of love with "the One."

Consider the unintentionally hilarious tongue-bath of an essay in the latest Esquire, in which novelist Stephen Marche asks, "How Can We Not Love Obama?" Savor the savior, Marche commands, this multitude-containing "world-historical soul" we're blessed to have as our president.

"Contemplate him" like a "painting by Vermeer," a Rolling Stones guitar lick, "a Peyton Manning pass or any other astounding, ecstatic human achievement." ("Lo-oving 'O' / is easy 'cause he's beautiful …")

"Lad" mags are rarely sources of sound political insight, but we expect better from Yale law professors (… er, don't we?). Last week, Yale's Charles Fried, an "Obamacon" who served as solicitor general under President Reagan, wrote in the Daily Beast that Obama's difficulties stem from the fact that he's just too darned "intelligent, analytical" and intellectually honest. "Obama Is Too Good For Us," you see. (Shall we dissolve the People and elect a new one?)

Moving further left, Mother Jones blogger Kevin Drum recently confessed he'd suppressed his doubts about the Libyan intervention because he "literally trust[s] [Obama's] judgment over my own"—"he's smarter than me, better informed…and more farsighted."

All good reasons, to be sure, for suspending critical thinking about a war that the president's own secretary of defense admits isn't "a vital interest of the U.S." and which his own attorney general believes to be illegal.

Even when they reject their political savior, as psychology professor Drew Westen does in an interminable essay in Sunday's New York Times, Obamaphiles find themselves unable to renounce political salvationism itself.

"Bewitched by his eloquence," Westen writes, many failed to notice Obama's character defects: an "aversion to conflict" and a craven desire to please.

It didn't have to be this way, Westen laments. If only Obama had been a more effective demagogue: When he took office, "the public was desperate for a leader who would speak with confidence, and they were ready to follow wherever the president led."

A creepy notion, but also—thankfully—always a false hope.

In February 2009, a month after Obama took office, I wrote my first column for The Examiner: "Turns out that, no he can't." Despite the "hopefest" aura surrounding the inauguration, I argued, "the smart money says that by 2012, Obama will look a lot more like Jimmy Carter than FDR."

No presidential candidate had ever done more to stoke Americans' grandiose expectations for what was supposed to be a constitutionally limited office. Yet Obama won the presidency at the beginning of an era of long-needed austerity, one in which we'll be paying good and hard for the outsized promises of past saviors in chief.

Those Greek columns at the 2008 Democratic National Convention were pretty, but they were made of Styrofoam; the guy standing in front of them was, like those who came before, a professional vote-grubber, not a worthy object of adulation.

The last thing we need right now is the Obamaphiles' messianic approach to the presidency—messianism got us into this mess.

Nobel laureate James Buchanan called the "public choice" approach to economics he helped create "politics without romance." In this era of limits, we need a presidency without romance.

Gene Healy is a vice president at the Cato Institute and the author of "The Cult of the Presidency." This column originally appeared in the Washington Examiner. 

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  1. Nice photography work there giving him the halo.

    1. Halo? Silly me. I thought that was the black hole of his policies about to cause him to implode.

      1. RACIST!!!!

        1. Ha! Another guy who confuses “implode” with “niggardly”!

          1. If Obama insisted on being niggardly we wouldn’t have had a debt downgrade.

            1. What is true is, I’m only half niggardly.

              1. What is true is, I’m only half niggardly.

                Me too!

              2. With gems like these, it’s difficult to imagine why the right doesn’t make more progress with the black community.

                1. How exactly did the Democrats go from being the slave owners party to the minority “rights” party?

          2. No, black hole. It has the word black! It must be RACIST!!!!

      2. It is easy to confuse an event horizon for a halo.

        1. +1 Schwarzschild radius

          1. -1 Charisma

      1. Here are some Bush halos to balance it out.

      2. I’m pretty sure the rooms are intentionally designed to provide those views.

        1. God did that. Photoshop is incapable of removing it.

      3. I’m not religious or superstitious, but all this talk of The One, and the Obama icon plastered all over reminds me of the Mark of the Beast.

        My skin is crawling ………

        1. “the Obama icon plastered all over”

          Hey, it worked for the Ayatollah

    2. prob is the gop will nominate some wingnut to appease the snake-handeling base thus offering no alternative for thoughtful indies.

      1. Handel did not handle snakes.
        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G…..ric_Handel

  2. Consider the unintentionally hilarious tongue-bath of an essay in the latest Esquire, in which novelist Stephen Marche asks, “How Can We Not Love Obama?” Savor the savior, Marche commands, this multitude-containing “world-historical soul” we’re blessed to have as our president.

    Fellatial devotion indeed! But still a far cry from the nude sweaty scribblings of Mark Morford (really why are these “newspapers” still in business after publishing drivel like this?) of the SFGate.com in his infamous “Lightbringer” column!

    Hey….middle aged white guys…..time to get over those lingering “daddy” issues.

    1. Do you know who else was a light-bearer?

      1. That’s right, Satan!

        1. u spelled my name wrong

          1. You were a steel-bearer.

        2. Nope. Lucifer

          1. I was doing the Church Lady bit, who always said “Satan.” Lucifer, of course, literally means “light-bringing.” From the Latin terms lux/lucis (“light”) and ferre (“carry”).

      2. Prometheus?

        1. That was fire, not light per se.

          1. you’re an idiot, and wrong, per se

      3. Darth Vader?

      4. Lucy. In the sky. With diamonds.

        1. Anyone else hear that in the Shat’s voice?

          1. I hear everything in the Shat’s voice.

          2. *raises hand*

      5. Uh, I think that guy over by the dumpster has a light.

        1. Not this time. Loser.

          1. Bummer

      6. Lucifer.

      7. Bob Loblaw?

        1. Fucking Chachi strikes again.

          1. ‘I ought to pull down your pants and spank your ass raw.’

      8. Spuds MacKenzie?

        1. More of a Light dogger.

  3. If you haven’t turned on Obama by now, you’re a partisan and nothing much else. Sorry.

    1. Hey, man, I tried to turn him on but his DEA busted me.

      1. Spoof?
        If real…. what exactly was the straw that broke the camel’s back?

    2. Turn on, tune in, drop out

      1. Where can I sign up?

  4. Reverse racism with a huge dollop of leftist idealism.

    Your turn Tony.

  5. Thus the left: always looking for a new personality cult.

    1. where’s our palin-grifter?

      1. The White House?

        1. wha? he’s not near the grifter as ms half-term gov

          1. Double Anus…you will earn a response once you learn to type like a man…not like a distracted teenaged girl.

  6. Just a couple of days ago, I found myself on the periphery of a discussion about how dreamy he is, and how everybody who says anything bad about him is just a stupid racist hick; what other possible explanation could there be?

    1. I had a person in my office the other day and she said he was so calming. I asked her how is threatening to not pay SS or the military calming?

    2. This attitude is rampant among teachers. The faculty room was often abuzz with teachers claiming that disagreement with O had its roots in racism, plain and simple. Disgusting.

      1. I interviewed a while back for a teaching position. in the principal’s office there was a picture hanging on the wall. It was Martin Luther King, Rosa Parks, and Barack Obama. It said, YES WE CAN.

        I thought, I’m not getting this job. And I didn’t.

    3. I work with a lot of different companies. At one company there was a lady who had an Obama wall calendar and was constantly gushing about how magnificent he was. At another company they had a six foot portrait of him in the entrance.

      This kind of worship of a man who only got elected because he last name was not “Bush” is disgusting.

      1. The worship stuff comes from another of his personal traits that he was, uh, born with.

  7. Keep cool with Coolidge.

    1. That was Keep Kool with Koolige! And the initials were supposed to be an indication of something.

  8. “contemplate him like …. a Peyton Manning pass or any other astounding, ecstatic human achievement.”

    Yeah, it makes sense to compare the quintessence of mediocrity, the very embodiement of affirmative action incompetence with the measureable and transparent greatness of #18.

    What a fucking joke!

    1. Well you sure wouldn’t mistake him for Philip Rivers.

      1. Rivers might be the most accurate comparison. A whiny sonofabitch who’s never done anything worthy of being considered professional success and has a the most gawdawful throwing motion I’ve seen in anyone not named Obama.

        Seriously, I know he completes passes, but dude throws the football like a shotput and his passes lack umph and seem to move through the air like a b.b. through jello.

        1. Dude, Rivers has actually demonstrated merit and success. He got his team to the AFC championship game playing on a broken leg. He has had some of the best seasons a passer can have. He has been named to the Pro Bowl.

          Rivers’ achievements are measureable. The same can not be said of Obama.

          1. Mike, understand that I am a diehard Chiefs fan and as such Rivers will always be the object of my most intense and deep-seated hatred.

            1. You must have been a huge fan of Jamarcus Russell then.

              1. $39 million dollars for having one half-decent year in college and managing to avoid taking any risk (since he hardly ever saw the field)? I think we’ve found our Obama comparison.

                1. Woah, woah, woah. You can knock his running game, you can bitch about his throwing motion, hell, you’re welcome to call him whiny, but that garbage you spewed is total BS. Rivers started every game for four years (that’s right, he started as many games as physically possible, look it up)–and took waaay more snaps than he should have, especially his senior season when, frankly, the backup should have been getting some practice. No question he was not a _great_ running QB, but “avoided taking risk”? Sure, he always slid at the end of a run, like a good QB should. “hardly saw the field”? HE SET THE RECORD FOR COLLEGIATE STARTS. You sir, are completely and totally full of shit.

                  Let me ask you this, do you even know what college that was? (Quick, without wikipedia!)

                  On a side note, I know a lot of people dislike his throwing motion, and I can appreciate the sentiment–it never was what you would call elegant. But to all the people who for four years repeated the astounding insight of “Rivers is fine in college, but he’ll never make it in the pros with that throwing motion”, I’d just like to take another opportunity to say, “Ha ha ha ha, retards.”

            2. You wouldn’t know good QB play unless you go all the way back to the Dawson era. No, the twilight years of Montana do not count.

          2. Being president doesn’t count as an achievement?

            1. Only in the sense that being drafted by the NFL is an achievement.

              1. Only in the sense that being drafted by the NFL is an achievement.

                Mmmmno. Being drafted by the NFL is (usually) based on measurable accomplishments.

                As O’Rourke wrote: Politics is the business of getting power and privilege without possessing merit.

                Big difference.

            2. Mmmm… Let’s see:

              Bush Jr.
              Obama.
              Most likely Romney…

              Nope.
              It’s just an indictment of collective stupidity among voters.

            3. It does for the campaign manager…

            4. Bush was president, Tony, and he was also an incompetent hack.

              If you want to call that “achievement” material, knock yerself out.

              1. Knock it off!

          3. Oh no, Obama’s achievements are indeed measurable. Unfortunately, the positives end in Jan. 20, 2009.

    2. One Super Bowl, one term. Seems a decent comparison. Now he’s certainly no Tom Brady.

      1. I’m not a Patriots fan but Brady is great. So is Peyton Manning. I love watching those guys play.

      2. Are you equating a Super Bowl triumph with winning an election?

        1. Yes, insofar as beating Rex Grossman is about as easy as winning the presidency as a Democrat on the heels of 8 years of Bush.

          1. Ouch, but true.

            1. No, wrong comparison. Rex Grossman was the qb of a Super Bowl team. By what dint of logic can you argue that Obama has done the equivalent? If you analogize to NFL qbs, how can you argue that Obama has lead his team to the Super Bowl? He has lead his team (the state of the US economy) to, at best, a 1-15 mark. Not 12-4 and agong to the Super Bowl.

              1. Obama has Rex Grossman-like talent, but Jamarcus Russell-like performance.

              2. Yeah but it was management’s fault!

                *Preferably if Bush was GM*

      3. He’s not even an Eli Manning.

        1. Neil O’Donnell?

          1. What has Obama done to even remotely compare to the measureable achievements of Neil O’Donnell?

            Was O’Donnell the qb of any team which went 0-16 or 1-15? Unless one is an irrational Obamaphile, one would be hard pressed to argue against analogizing that Obama has, thus far, led his team to an 0-16 or, at best, 1-15 record.

            1. Neil O’Donnell: 2-6 in 1991, 0-6 in 1996 (1-15 J!-E!-T!-S!), 2-9 in 1998. The man was a solid QB, but no miracle worker.

            2. Was O’Donnell the qb of any team which went 0-16 or 1-15?

              Technically, yes–the 1996 New York Jets went 1-15, although to be fair, he suffered a season-ending injury when they were 0-6. The 1998 Cincinnati Bengals team he played for went 3-13.

            3. Damn you, KDN, with your quick posting fingers.

            4. Ryan Leaf.

          2. Jeff George

          3. Randy. Fucking. Moss.

            1. Oh bullshit Moss! April to September it was me, it was no fucking Moss!

        2. As a 2005 Ole Miss graduate, I am contractually obligated to claim here that Eli is the better Manning.

        3. Eli Manning won a Super Bowl, and was named Super Bowl MVP.

      1. Because his Offensive coordinator abilities tend to suffer a decline when he gets mauled by blitzing linebackers in the playoffs. Maybe coaching from the field isnt such a great thing, eh?

      2. Plus half of those are compliments of running into Belichick defenses. Go Pats!

      3. He has the bad luck of running into the Chargers, who own Indy despite failing to beat any other contender in the playoffs since 1994. (2007 Titans don’t count).

  9. The crazy thing about Obama’s failures is that it’s not just him. He picked a terrible cabinet and surrounded himself with lapdogs and yes-men/women who had no business being in charge of the positions in which they were placed. Like rats fleeing a sinking ship his inner-circle is deteriorating rapidly, and the folks he still has around like Axelrod and Turbo Timmy are giving him the absolute worst advice imaginable.

    He has himself to blame for surrounding himself with these folks, but the Presidency isn’t just one person, and hoo boy did he pick some stinkers.

    1. Oh, so very much this. When your economic team is reduced to TurboTax Timmay, you are smooth fucked.

    2. Wasn’t he going to appoint the best people to his cabinet, even if they didn’t agree with him, or were even political rivals, the way Lincoln did. I’m pretty sure I remember those comparisons to Lincoln. So, another thing he failed to do.

      1. He was going to do that. Hmm… another failed campaign promise.

      2. Let me be clear.

        I indeed have appointed the best people possibly to my cabinet.

        I must insist that this rough time we are going through now is because either we have not explained properly to the American people why our policies are perfect, or because we are opposed by terrorists, because the rich continue to be greedy, or because the previous president didn’t leave me a amount of gold to play with.

        1. BOOSH!!!!

    3. And don’t forget his first big decision, before even being elected. Who’d have thought there could be a VP who is a bigger laughingstock than Dan Quayle?

      1. What about Al Gore?

        1. Gore was a decent VP. Quiet, didn’t say anything particularly stupid, invented the internet. It wasn’t until after he lost the promotion when he had paid his dues and been a good company man for 8 years that he lost his shit.

          1. Before that, though, he aided and abetted the PMRC in their idiotic attempt to slap a ratings system on CDs.

    4. The crazy thing about Obama’s failures is that it’s not just him. He picked a terrible cabinet and surrounded himself with lapdogs and yes-men/women who had no business being in charge of the positions in which they were placed.

      It still baffles me that Hillary agreed to be SecState–I never liked the bitch, but I thought she had better political instincts than to rope herself to the very guy who stole her dream right out from under her nose.

      By embedding herself in the administration, she basically fucked herself to ride in as the savior. She can’t run in 2012 for obvious reasons, and by 2016 she’ll be nearly 70 years old. By that time, barring some sort of economic miracle or (god forbid) a world war, the stench of Obama on the Dem brand is going to be so strong that even Palin would probably be able to win it for Team Red, and anyone associated with Obama is going to be damaged goods.

      It’s remarkable that a woman who was able to work the press and political landscape like a fiddle up through 2008 suddenly turned into the political equivalent of Simple Jack in just a few short months.

      1. This head movie makes my eyes rain!

  10. To be fair, if you are a journalist or university professor, you would not have gotten the job if you did not endorse Affirmative action, entitlements, big government etc.

    To speak out against these things, no matter how blatantly bad the situation is, will mean you will lose your job.

    1. is that what u did? or are u not a professor or journalist?

      1. Why do you even fucking breathe?

        1. so I can vote for Obama, lol

          1. OO|8.9.11 @ 2:26PM|#
            so I can vote for Obama, lol

            Looks like Obama’s got the retard vote locked up.

          2. OO You m-m-m-m-make me h-h-happy.

        2. u mean why is there air?

  11. If Obama looses in 2012 I wonder if there will be riots in certain areas of certain cities. Something along the level we are now seeing in London.

    1. Regardless of the outcomes of the next two elections, this country will be rife with civil unrest plenty in the next decade.

      1. There was a riot in Milwaukee at the state fair last weekend that was a precursor of things to come.

        They released the 911 tapes yesterday-

        http://www.todaystmj4.com/news…..76733.html

        1. Wow. Wait until DC starts making real cuts. The moochers will get to the looting right quick, and do so in an organized fashion thanks to text messaging and email.

        2. BTW – did this get any national coverage? This is the first I’ve heard of it.

          1. It seemed to have slipped through the cracks nationally because of the Economic hysteria.

          2. It got coverage here, but I’m in the state-next-door.

            Beatdowns by mobs at fairs/fests happen more than you think…. We’ve had a few and this isn’t the first for Milwaukee.

            1. Funny, my lefty friends on Facebook haven’t mentioned the Milwaukee mob beatings. They’ll cry a river over any black person being beaten by whites, however.

              1. Are they ashamed of the Dallas Mavericks, too?

          3. BTW – did this get any national coverage?

            Nope. Didn’t fit the narrative, old boy.

        3. So glad PA just changed the Castle Doctrine to cover using a gun in self defense outside of a home or place of business. I suspect you’d only need to get off one shot before the mob scattered. They would still have me outnumbered, but I doubt there are 22 of them willing to take a bullet for the friends.

          1. 22 ? is that some odd sized magazine for an AR ? Serious question.

            1. I carry a Sig P239 with a round chambered and two spare mags. 8+7+7=22.

              1. Nice gun.

              2. Pretty optimistic if you think you can change magazines twice if attacked by a mob.

                And if the mob is used to fights and shots fired, they may not back down. Mobs exhibit “mob behavior” anyway.

                1. “And if the mob is used to fights and shots fired”

                  Because they COULD be “used to shots fired”…

                  Are you really that fucking stupid or do you just like being a contrarian idiot?

        4. I live in Milwaukee. We’ve had similar problems in the Riverwest area lately. The kids doing this are organizing through twitter, etc. It does not appear to be politically/economically motivated, rather, a bunch of kids looking for excitement.

          1. Anarchy is wonderful.

            1. How is it anarchy if they’re organized?

        5. Huh, when you need a trigger happy SWAT team, they’re never around.

      2. The System will work.

    2. Chris Matthews, Eleonore Clift and Rachel Maddow will lead the charge.

      And then blame Bush.

  12. Still waiting for the Occidental, Columbia and Harvard applications and transcripts………

    1. ^look a birther 2.0^

      1. Still waiting for Clinton’s health records…

      2. Non-sequitur much?

        1. Last post obviously directed at OO.

  13. Truth be told, as much as their is a considerable amount of irrational love for Obama, there is also a considerable contigent of irrational hatred of the man. Such is the partisan dumbfuckerry of the TEAMs.

    Those with the irrational hatred have had the good fortune of having a resume of incompetence to pin on the guy so as to conceal their hatred, but make no mistake that it would be present even if the guy governed like the second coming of Jesus. The very fact that he has governed in a fashion that bears an uncanny likeness to Reagan, W, or Mitt would’ve (with some scattered exceptions) shows that a considerable amount of the TEAM RED dipshits that loathe the man do so in large part regardless of his actual policies.

    I know, the implication is racism. But that’s not what I’m meaning to imply, although there probably are certain elements where that is at play. But I think its a larger distaste among TEAM REDers for the smarmy, more-intellectual-than-thou, bloviating Ivy professor schtick.

    1. The very fact that he has governed in a fashion that bears an uncanny likeness to Reagan

      Are you high? The only thing those two have in common from a presidential standpoint is they are/were both presidents. Obama and Reagan are diametrically opposed from every conceivable governing standpoint.

      1. Reagan and the current GOP would have nothing to do with each other.

        1. Reagans social secretary checkin in!

          Thanks Tony! Good to see you channeling the departed once again to serve your personal political goals.

        2. Reagan would have had Tea Parties at the White House if he was around today.

          “From the 1961 Operation Coffee Cup Campaign against Socialized Medicine as proposed by the Democrats, then a private citizen Ronald Reagan Speaks out against socialized medicine.”

          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRdLpem-AAs

          1. I never said Reagan wasn’t a racist; he just wouldn’t be racist enough for today’s Republican party.

            1. Any proof that Reagan was a racist?

              1. private citizen Ronald Reagan Speaks out against socialized medicine

              2. I believe he was one and it coincide nicely with my worldview…..ergo……

              3. Re: Concerned Citizen,
                Please DON’T feed the sockpuppet!

                I mean, you can get shit like this flinged on your face by the sockpuppet:

                “[P]rivate citizen Ronald Reagan [s]peaks out against socialized medicine…”

                Supposed proof that Reagan was racist. Please, stop feeding the sockpuppet!

                1. But OM, how can we tell the racists apart from the norms(i.e. College educated) if we don’t assume that all non-democrat bootlickers are racist? By their actual words? By their actions? That’s fucking ridiculous and impossible! Its not like these true-blue(red?) racists are going to wear white and march and try to lynch people and …..oh

                  1. Drax is one of my favorite Bond villians.

              4. Any proof that Reagan was a racist?

                When Bill Clinton was elected Rage Against the Machine did an audio mashup of Reagan’s speeches making him say racist things, so…

              5. Because he wasn’t a liberal.
                How many times do i have to explain this?

            2. Obama is a racist, pure and simple. His boy Holder is just one method of delivery.

              1. Who you callin boy!

        3. Reagan and the current GOP would have nothing to do with each other.

          Neither would JFK and the current small, scuttling things of Team Blue.

      2. Well, now, hold on. Both were Homo sapiens sapiens and American citizens. Both went to college, both spoke English. Any number of compelling similarities!

        1. Reagan worked with chimps, Obama works with Geithner.

          1. See? Lots and lots of similarities. Both lived in Illinois. Both had wives and children.

          2. T, I am proud that you avoided the obvious racism that presented itself by using Holder instead of Geithner.

          3. EOM

        2. Obama starts with “O”
          Ronald has an “O” in it.

      3. I’ll concede that to an extent. I overreached throwing Reagan in there, but a W/Mitt proxy I think is a fair assessment. But I do think there were some areas where the Reagan comparison was legitimate. Namely, the dramatic rise in the debt, the lack of will to make fundamental reforms to the entitlement systems (although Reagan was more willing to even tinker at the edges whereas for all his talk Obama hasn’t shown even that courage). Also, both seem to want to exercise more diplomacy as a projection of power. Reagan was a pro at it, bringing about the collapse of Soviet Communism without much in the way of international warmaking. Obama seemed for a minute like he might have the effect in the Mideast while the revolutions were happening, then like a dumbfuck he decided to get militarily involved.

        1. the dramatic rise in the debt

          Not even remotely comparable. Reagan did raise the deficit, and so did Bush, but Obama raised it higher than all of them combined. People forget just how badly Obama has outspent our income. And he’s only been in office for 3/4 of a term. It’s not even an argument.

          the lack of will to make fundamental reforms to the entitlement systems

          Reagan wanted to reform it but he had no chance with the Dems running congress. Obama wants to increase the size and scope of it altogether. Completely different philosophies.

          Also, both seem to want to exercise more diplomacy as a projection of power.

          Reagan had no problem bombing the shit of out Qballs house in the 80’s, or sending in marines and infantry in to Grenada. He didn’t lead from behind with NATO. Can you imagine Obama telling Gorbachev to “tear down this wall”?

          I get your point about the anti-Obama’s losing their fricking minds during his meltdown, but let’s be realistic. I’m not sure their is an apt comparison for Obama at this point. Even Carter doesn’t do it justice at this point.

          1. I overreached with the Reagan bit. They have fundamentally different philosophies, I can accept that. One thing I’ll quarrel with is that I think Reagan was far more interested in peace than Obama. His biggest fear was nuclear war, and although he used military force in situations, I’d say its probably safe to say that he was judicious with it and didn’t use it in an international nation-building effort (afghanistan) nor did he need to use it when the world was revolting against tyranny. In fact, a large part of the reason the Eastern bloc fell was probably because he realized how counterproductive it would be to engage or support militarily. Ever since NATO screwed the pooch in Libya, progress in the mideast rebellions seems to be waning.

            1. Reagan was far more interested in peace than Obama.

              Moved and seconded.

            2. Nothing quells rebellions like those who are there “to help” fucking it all up beyond repair.

        2. And we all know how amazingly popular Mitt Romney is Mr. Obama’s opponents.

      4. Reagan was a waffling Democrat. And he hired Greenspan.

        “diametrically opposed from every conceivable governing standpoint” is quite an exaggeration. Both Reagan and Obama sure love the military and them Wars On Some Drugs.

        1. Greenspan was appointed, not hired. The Federal Reserve is a private company, not a gov’t agency.

    2. Truth be told, as much as their is a considerable amount of irrational love for Obama Bush, there is also a considerable contingent of irrational hatred of the man. Such is the partisan dumbfuckerry of the TEAMs.

      Those with the irrational hatred have had the good fortune of having a resume of incompetence to pin on the guy so as to conceal their hatred, but make no mistake that it would be present even if the guy governed like the second coming of Jesus. The very fact that he has governed in a fashion that bears an uncanny likeness to Reagan, W, or Mitt would’ve (with some scattered exceptions) shows that a considerable amount of the TEAM RED BLUE dipshits that loathe the man do so in large part regardless of his actual policies.

      I know, the implication is racism (ok it kinda doesn’t work here). But that’s not what I’m meaning to imply, although there probably are certain elements where that is at play. But I think its a larger distaste among TEAM REDers BLUEers for the smarmy, more-intellectual-than-thou, bloviating Ivy professor schtick.

      Fortunately with a few small tweaks it works for both TEAMS.

      I just thank god that I hate both TEAMS and their QB’s!

    3. I don’t agree at all. He got elected with no experience to judge from, which disturbed many, there was and is evidence that he leaned much further left than most of us are comfortable with, and his administration and his party have gone off the deep end in so many ways it’s hard to count them all. Not to mention that his administration behaves in many respects like the Bush administration, except that it’s even worse, and that he is an obvious bullshitter.

      No need to go looking when there have been entirely rational reasons for questioning his election and a whole slew of rational reasons for questioning his fitness for office today.

      1. Believe me ProL, I’m not saying that most of the criticism is unfounded. But I have been around enough dumbfuck partisans on both sides to know that even if he governed in a manner which they would prefer, he would still be an object of contempt. About 30% of the population is just TEAM oriented and will fail to ever see any merits in a guy from the opposite team. Although the dislike for Obama has been well earned by him, there was a contigent that was gonna hate him no matter what he did once sworn in.

        1. Oh, sure, I agree with that. Jesus could come down and offer totally benevolent, beneficent, and perfect rule, and some of the people in the party Jesus wasn’t in would vote against him and demonize him.

          1. Truth be told, I’d vote against Jesus. All that love your neighbor and feed him shit.

            1. I’m sure he’s a libertarian. And since he can make things out of other things, no more taxes!

              1. That looter parasite violated the intellectual property of the bakers and fishermen he bought his loaves and fish from! Did he even care about their ability to earn a living in a world where food could be pirated?

                1. That looter parasite violated the intellectual property of the bakers and fishermen he bought his loaves and fish from!

                  The Commerce Clause would have straightened him right out.

            2. Are you saying you’d feed Jesus shit, or that he asked us to feed our neighbors shit? Either way, it’s pretty funny.

          2. Jesus wasn’t in would vote against him and demonize him.

            I see what you did there.

          3. This already happened. See: from 2008 until now.

            1. You joke, but Obama is like Elvis to some people.

    4. Support your general asseveration that there is as much as, if not more, irrational hatred of O than there is irrational love of O.

      Does having a “distaste” for smarmy, more intellectual than thou Ivy bloviators constitute irrationality?

      1. Given the amount of damage Ivy-educated fucksticks in government have done to the country, I’d say a dislike of Ivy bloviators is just survival instinct rearing its head.

      2. I’m not saying the two forces are at parity. And its hard to quantify the amount of people that hate the guy just for being TEAM BLUE because he’s given them so much ammo for reasonable opposition (although many of those same people fellated W for 8 years and seem to fail to realize that Obama is the more long-winded mulatto version).

        Its just something I think I can sometimes glean in conversation from the way he is referred to. I also have a distaste for the smarmy intellectual and I recognize that such a distaste is a fairly reasonable survival instinct as T pointed out, but I’d happily vote for a guy like Jeffrey Miron, Harvard Economics professor (albeit a humble and unsmarmy type).

        I guess my entire point was best demonstrated by fish above, partisan dumbfuckerry is a two way street. As much as there are TEAM BLUEs that will love Obama no matter what, there are TEAM REDs that hate him no what.

        1. You’re correct.

          When it comes to the statist right, they are opposing him because he is on another team, just as the Democrats who opposed Bush for the wars, the civil rights violations etc are now silent on it.

          The Tea Party movement at citizen level is going to have to prove that it is different, although i wouldn’t hold my breath. We’ll have to see if they get behind whackjobs like Bachmann or Perry, or come up with something else. Somehow, i just don’t see the majority of them get behind Ron Paul or Gary Johnson.

          However, all of this doesn’t change anything about the criticism on Obama being right.

    5. Re: Sudden,

      Truth be told, as much as their is a considerable amount of irrational love for Obama, there is also a considerable contigent of irrational hatred of the man.

      How much more damaging can it be to have hatred for the man than unconditional love for him? Stalin was pretty hated by many of his victims, but enough people loved him sufficiently to enable him to commit his crimes unmolested.

      1. I’m pretty sure you have a large misunderstanding of what unconditional love is about. Is it love to carry out the purges of Stalin or just fear the same thing will happen to you if you don’t stick with the pogrom. If you tried to thwart Stalin, you were also killing your entire family as well.

        Think about it.

      2. “Stalin was pretty hated by many of his victims, but enough people loved him sufficiently to enable him to commit his crimes unmolested.”

        Fred Koch surely being first among the Stalin-lovers.

        You know Fred, right? The guy who through petro-refining industrialized the Soviet Union for Stalin?

        Fred Koch, whose asshole kids now send the blood money he earned to the Reason Foundation to keep its lights on so that you delusional twerps can post your totally repudiated “free-market” bullshit every day?

        Ha ha.

        1. KOCHTOPUS!!!111!!!ELEVENTY!!

        2. Oh you mean the man that was sued some 44 time in the U.S. by his competition and he won all of them. But still could not continue to work in the U.S. because he was essentially blackballed here. so yes he did go over seas and yes he did help Stalin whom we were not at war with at the time and thankfully those oil wells he put in for Stalin helped them fight with us against Germany and hence the war was won.
          A little history always helps to put things in perspective. BTW he worked in many other countries as well, one of those was England another partner in the war against Germany.

        3. You know who else worked and/or studied in Stalinist Russia? Ayn Rand. True story. Really, we’re all reformed Stalinists here.

        4. You’re actually right (but not in the way you think you are). While in the Soviet Union, Fred Koch saw the misery that communism had created (He actually wrote extensively about what he saw) and came home with a distinct resolve to fight communism and authoritarianism in general. It’s a fight his children continue to this day.

          So Fred Koch was no ‘Stalin-lover’, but in a sense, Stalin created the Kochtopus.

    6. “I’m not calling racism but I’m just saying there’s some racism involved here”.

      WTF?

      1. No kidding. He could be a freakin’ albino and it wouldn’t make any difference.

    7. Those with the irrational hatred have had the good fortune of having a resume of incompetence to pin on the guy so as to conceal their hatred,

      You mean irrational hate like this

      http://www.google.com/search?q…..93&bih=959

      Or this

      http://www.looptvandfilm.com/b…..-small.jpg

      1. That’s different.

  14. Some of us hope Obama succeeds even if it contradicts some minor aspect of political philosophy we believe in.

    1. Of course, since sucking Obama’s dick is a major aspect of your political philosophy.

    2. Some of us hope Obama succeeds

      Succeeds at what, Tony? Do you want him to succeed in killing more people in undeclared wars than Bush did? Do you want him to succeed in abandoning the rule of law altogether?

      You are such a pathetic sycophant.

      -jcr

      1. As far as U.S. combat deaths are concerned, Obama has already surpassed Bush. See, he’s succeeding exceptionally well.

        1. “Obama has launched more cruise missiles than all other Nobel peace prize winners combined.” –Peter Sagal

    3. Please define “succeed”.

      1. As in, I’m hoping that he succeeds all over my face.

      2. something about takeover of the economy, building roads, maybe an affordable people’s car… ? Ah, damn – Godwin’s Law strike me down!

      3. there’s no success like failure…

    4. You mean, like bombing the fuck out of several countries, torture, rendition, the patriot act, the TSA, bailing out banks and corporations, anti-freedom of speech, continuing the war on drugs, and several other minor aspects of your political philosophy?

      Funny how the left has copied the right’s fear-and hatemongering lingo even in terms of the “war on terror”, by calling political opponents who get in the way of their agenda “terrorists” or “threats to national security”.

      No, Tony. Your political philosophy has one, and only one aspect. Envy of rich people. In that, Obama excels. In for that reason, the left loves him regardless of how much blood he has on his hands.
      Then again, historically socialists never cared about a corpse here or there.

      1. Taxes are lower under Obama than they were under Bush. Corporate profits are higher.

        I hate Bush for giving the presidency those powers–we should not trust them in the hands of even trustworthy presidents.

        1. Isn’t it on Obama’s shoulders to NOT using those powers Bush gave the presidency?

          Don’t try to bullshit us… you *love* Obama having those powers. It fits into the liberal version of the so-con narrative: Government knows best, at all levels, and the individual be damned.

  15. Here’s Obama’s theme song!

      1. I would have thought this would be more appropriate for H&R.

    1. Crap, I was going to post that. It’s so prescient it’s scary.

  16. “Turns out that, no he can’t.” Despite the “hopefest” aura surrounding the inauguration, I argued, “the smart money says that by 2012, Obama will look a lot more like Jimmy Carter than FDR.”

    Not a bad guess, but it turns out he’s more like George W. Bush.

    1. Not a bad guess, but it turns out he’s more like George W. Bush.

      We would be lucky if that were the case.

      1. At this point, very lucky.

  17. Moving further left, Mother Jones blogger Kevin Drum recently confessed he’d suppressed his doubts about the Libyan intervention because he “literally trust[s] [Obama’s] judgment over my own”?”he’s smarter than me, better informed…and more farsighted.”

    The reductio ad absurdum of credentialism.

    A guy whose sole demonstrable skill is conning people out of their money and using it to win elections is unquestionably more qualified to run your life than you are.

    What a maroon.

    1. Yeah, Kevin Drum jumped the shark with that one. That was possibly the most fatuous nonsense I’ve ever seen in print.

    2. so u speak for kevin drum? otherwise how do u know drum’s personal opinion about himself is absurd?

      1. That is true. Maybe Drum is just that pathetically stupid. He does work for Mother Jones, so anything is possible.

    3. A guy whose sole demonstrable skill is conning people out of their money and using it to win elections is unquestionably more qualified to run your life than you are.

      If you’re Kevin Drum, probably so, yes.

  18. There are no Obamaphiles in the intelligentsia. There are piles of them among the pseudo-intellectuals with their degrees in “public policy”, “gender studies”, and shit like that.

    -jcr

  19. Moving further left, Mother Jones blogger Kevin Drum recently confessed he’d suppressed his doubts about the Libyan intervention because he “literally trust[s] [Obama’s] judgment over my own”?”he’s smarter than me, better informed… and more farsighted.”

    It is very disturbing and kind of creepy to see how an otherwise normal person would suspend disbelief, common sense and basic morality only because he believes the person in charge to be better than him. This tells volumes about how the supposed objectivism and skepticism of the press is really legendary and not fact.

    1. Authority worship is very real.

      1. Yes. I observe, however, it is dying out *somewhat* with The Greatest Generation.

      2. ….and on display daily with Chris Matthews on Hardballs. Tune in….if you dare.

        1. And the fundies.

    2. …he’s smarter than me…

      So is everyone who knows how to use pronoun cases so he’s probably right.

    3. “he’s smarter than me, better informed”

      Well at least he admits that there is no more point in relying on him for information or anything else. Instead Mother Jones should just put up a link to the white house website.

      1. Indeed, they’d probably save themselves a lot of time and effort if they just posted links to White House press releases.

    4. “It is very disturbing and kind of creepy to see how an otherwise normal person would suspend disbelief, common sense and basic morality only because he believes the person in charge to be better than him. ”

      And yet you’re perfectly fine with a free-market industrialist modernizing a murderous dictator’s regime because the industrialist believed the person in charge could make him super fucking wealthy. You don’t find that creepy or disturbing in the slightest. In fact, you hang around the website built with that blood money every fucking day, spouting moralistic fables and chugging corporate cock.

      The Koch family and its benefactors the Reason Foundation thank you for your very selective disgust.

      1. I hope you’re talking about Koch and Stalin. Please say you’re talking about Koch and Stalin.

      2. Koch didn’t become a “free-market” industrialist until AFTER his encounter with Stalinist USSR.

        1. “Koch didn’t become a “free-market” industrialist until AFTER his encounter with Stalinist USSR.”

          Um, yeah, that’s the point fuckwit…

  20. I must say, all these comparisons between Obama and Jimmy Carter are highly unfair to Carter. Sure, Jimmy was incompetent to manage the executive branch, but the man did at least have the brains to obtain an engineering degree at some point in his young adulthood.

    -jcr

    1. I’ve made this observation before, and I’ll do it again. I think Carter’s engineering background worked against him. Engineers are heavily trained, and especially nukes, to be detail oriented people. You can’t be too detail oriented and run the country. There’s too many details, and you’ll get lost in the swamp.

      1. Fantastic argument for decentralization, you’ve got there.

        1. To be fair, Carter did accomplish “some” significant decentralization. Can’t think of any significant decentralization since.

          And to be fair, Carter’s biggest bungle was INCREASED centralization – especially in his area of expertise. So much energy research was moved from the DoD to the newly-created DoE that he, in retrospect, set back both the DoD and energy research back at least 30 years.

          That says more about egotism being the mother of centralization than anything else. This is why the accusations of Obama’s ego/elitism are valid. The office attracts egotists and that probably can’t be stopped; the only way to counter it is with a meaningful Congress – but with the number of representative carved in stone instead of fluctuating with the overall growth in population you get an increasingly egotistical Congress, too. With our population, a truly representative Congress would have 5,000 instead of 535. As a result we basically get an egotistical Executive and an egotistical Legislature enabling each other instead of balancing each other.

        2. Feel free to use it whenever you like.

      2. I remember his policy of getting a memo each morning from every beaurocrat in his administration, up to and including scheduling the WH tennis courts. Within a week or so he couldn’t see his desk, and dropped that policy.

        1. Funny how he dropped the policy instead of dropping the bureaucrats.

      3. I’ve made this observation before, and I’ll do it again. I think Carter’s engineering background worked against him. Engineers are heavily trained, and especially nukes, to be detail oriented people. You can’t be too detail oriented and run the country. There’s too many details, and you’ll get lost in the swamp.

        At least he had the foresight to simply arm the mujahedeen in Afghanistan, instead of actually controlling them.

        1. The Bitch had it coming.
          http://iconicphotos.wordpress……-incident/

      4. I’ve made this observation before, and I’ll do it again. I think Carter’s engineering background worked against him.

        You know who Else was an engineer?

    2. I believe that Jimmy Carter is the best ex-President we have ever had. Well, except when he sticks his nose into foreign policy.

      He also signed the law that made it legal to home-brew once again. I’ll give him marks for that alone!

  21. Reagan appointed Greenspan, he did not hire him. The Federal Reserve is a private company, not a gov’t agency.

    1. It’s a thing, that has control of our economy, is supported entirely by the federal government, and has unlimited access to the printing press.

      Yet it’s also a private company.

      What part of fascism doesn’t this sound like?

      1. As Walter Williams pointed out, in the first 100 years of America, wholesale prices declined 6%. In the next 100 years, with the Federal Reserve, wholesale prices increased 1,600%.

      2. Do we know that it’s supported by the federal government? Who pays Bernanke’s salary?

        1. “Do we know that it’s supported by the federal government?”

          Using it and submitting to its authority is “backing it”. Your intensely narrow definition is useless and you’ve in no way furthered the conversation.

          In other words, yes you pedantic asshole, we know for certain the US “backs” it.

          You can stupidly quarrel over what definition of “backs” you intend to pretend is the only definition that fits.

  22. I think Obama, with his juvenile petulance (as for vindictiveness, we’ll have to see), is more like Nixon than like Carter.

    1. I think Nixon is both tempermentally and policywise the most accurate forebear for Obama. I think similarly the case could made the same way for LBJ and GWB.

      So which GOPer represents the next Carter to take over?

      1. Does this mean we get two years of Joe Biden stumbling his way off of airplanes?

    2. But Nixon was actually very intelligent and effective at some things. Obama could never pull off something like a trip to China or the Paris accords.

      I agree with you that he is temperamentally a lot like Nixon. But comparing him to Nixon is really quite unfair to Nixon. Obama seems to be a uniquely incompetent. We have really never seen anything like him. And hopefully won’t again for a very long time.

      1. But Nixon was actually very intelligent and effective at some things.

        Wage and price Controls.

        Ending Bretton Woods.

        EPA

        Affirmative action.

        War on Drugs.

        Yeah, he was just super.

        1. I guess the whole distinction “some is not all” is hard for you to grasp.

          Saying someone did some things right does not imply they did everything or even most things right.

          Do we really have to explain this shit? If not, why are you acting like we have to?

          1. Obama’s incompetence is beneficial and much preferable to Nixon’s “accomplishments”.

            Which were what exactly?

            Sucking up to commies in east asia?

            1. Yeah. Turning the Chinese against the Russians was a big deal. It also allowed China to begin to open up its society and economy, which has been a very good thing. Nixon also ended the Vietnam war. The terms of the Paris accord were quite good for US. It was only after Ford declared that we would never return that the North invaded the South.

              Nixon was a terrible person and a horrible President. But, he did do a few things right none the less. There is no denying that. Obama in contrast, has yet to do anything right.

              1. Turning the Chinese against the Russians was a big deal.

                The Chinese had already turned against the Russians.

                As far as Vietnam goes, it couldn’t have possibly ended worse than it did. Fighting on for years to preserve our “honor” is a sick joke that cost tens of thousand of American lives and multiple billions of dollars.

                And don’t forget detente, which helped the dying Soviet empire last another generation.

                1. Should be decade not generation.

                2. Nixon was in office for six years. Amazing trick getting Vietnam to last for decades longer. Nixon ended the Vietnam war in 1973. If you don’t like that fact, tough shit. You can’t change history.

                  And yes, the Chinese had turned against the Soviets. But getting them to come to us was a good trick.

                  And detente lowered the chances of a nuclear war, which was also a good thing. I am sorry Nixon touched you when you were a child. But that doesn’t make history anything other than what it was.

                  1. Reading comprehension failure.

                    Detente helped the dying soviet empire last another decade.

                    Would they have invaded Afghanistan without detente?
                    Probably not.

                    The democrats probably wouldn’t have gone insane had nixon ended the vietnam war in ’69.

                    And what the fuck does “getting the Chinese to come to us” even mean?

                    1. “Detente helped the dying soviet empire last another decade.”

                      That is counter factual bullshit. The Soviet Union was much stronger in the 1970s than it was in the 1980s. Had we confronted them in the 1970s, we would not have been as successful and may have gotten ourselves a war.

                      “Would they have invaded Afghanistan without detente?”

                      Again, more counter factual bullshit. And they invaded Afghanistan after four years of Carter. It is a pretty big stretch to blame that on Nixon. Jesus do you even know the dates things?

                      “The democrats probably wouldn’t have gone insane had nixon ended the vietnam war in ’69”

                      So it is Nixon’s fault the Democrats went nuts? Yeah, that makes sense. Clearly every President should base his actions on what will keep his opponents from going insane.

                      You are just a fucking ignorant fanatic on this subject. No one is saying Nixon was a good President. But saying that doesn’t justify denying reality and blaming him for shit that either had nothing to do with or happened years after he left office. Shit you might as well say he was a bad President for getting John Havelachek hurt in the 1973 NBA playoffs.

                    2. That is counter factual bullshit. The Soviet Union was much stronger in the 1970s than it was in the 1980s.

                      The soviets admitted that military competition during Reagan’s administration bankrupted them, exposing the contradictions and failures of central planning. But dialing back military competition in the 70s somehow did not take the pressure off?

                      So it is Nixon’s fault the Democrats went nuts?

                      Sure, he kept a pointless hot war going for an additional five years.
                      You don’t think that’s going to cause political and cultural problems in the country?

                      No one is saying Nixon was a good President. But saying that doesn’t justify denying reality and blaming him for shit that either had nothing to do with or happened years after he left office.

                      Is this the BHO defense of Nixon?

                      He’s not responsible for all the crap that he did wrong. And he inherited the war so it’s not his fault for escalating it.

                      But he kissed some enemy’s ass so that counterbalances all the bad crap that he did.

                      Jesus Christ, can you even see the argument your making here.

                    3. I see your argument Maxx. If it hadn’t been for that God Damned Nixon, Frazier would have never beat Ali that night at the Garden, the Beatles would have never broken up and Cubs wouldn’t have collapsed in 69. It is all his fault.

                      You are a fucking loon.

                    4. “And what the fuck does “getting the Chinese to come to us” even mean?”

                      It means opening relations with them and making them an ally rather than a neutral dumb ass.

                    5. China was an ally of the US in 1975?

                  2. I am sorry Nixon touched you when you were a child. But that doesn’t make history anything other than what it was.

                    The problem is that Nixon molested the whole country with the shit that he accomplished. Reread my list of those “achievements”. The country was seriously fucked up in the 70s from them and several are still causing distortion today.

                    He was the most socialist president since FDR but conservatives think he was great because he had an R after his name.

                    1. “He was the most socialist president since FDR but conservatives think he was great because he had an R after his name.”

                      Which party of “Nixon was a horrible Person and a horrible President” that I said above was so hard to understand.

                      You are Tony level stupid on this subject.

                    2. You’re the one defending his accomplishments.

                    3. “You’re the one defending his accomplishments.”

                      No dimwit, I am the one facing reality that no one, no matter how much you dislike them, is ever all this or that. Nixon did some good things. The fact that he did other bad or even worse things doesn’t change that. It is called having a rational view of history.

              2. As for RMN, he was also a pretty good pianist and a great fan / historian / student of baseball and football.

                BTW, 37 years ago today, just about at this time, he was getting into that helicopter and riding into the sunset.

        2. He did get us out of Vietnam.

  23. Yeah, with everything that is going on lately any normal president would have an approval down in the 30s by now without a doubt.

    This creep has a dedicated group of dead-ender sycophants like we’ve never seen before.

    1. This creep has a dedicated group of dead-ender sycophants like we’ve never seen before.

      They call us Legion, for we are many.

  24. “From Esquire to Mother Jones, really smart people are proving to be stupidly good at defending a president who doesn’t deserve it”

    Correction: they are people who bluff at being “really smart” but in reality have absolutely nothing to back it up with.

    Such is the case with ALL liberals.

    1. Indeed. I’m always hearing liberals telling us how smart they are. The problem is, I never see it.

  25. Obama might be the stupidest president we’ve ever had. And this coming on the heels of the goose-brained Dubya.

    One has to be stupid in the extreme to be a “neighborhood activist” in the PULLMAN neighborhood and yet believe in the efficacy of central planning.

  26. Again, I ask:

    What the hell has the guy achieved / done?

    Getting admitted to, and graduating from, an Ivy is nothing about which to worship or admire-particularly if the admittee / graduate was an affirmative action beneficiary.

    1. I have made this point many times. The man was nearly 50 years old and still bragging about his college resume. Yeah, it was nice he went to Harvard and was editor of the law review. But there is one of those every year. If you are over the age of 35 and that is still your biggest accomplishment, you have no business in a position of high authority and importance.

      1. And for what it’s worth, John, I’ve taken your point and used it in debate. It really does speak to the man’s utter lack of accomplishment.

        1. On balance, ceteris paribus and all things being equal, I would rather hire /trust / do business with an Eureka College grad than an Ivy grad.

      2. He got elected president, and that’s not an insignificant bullet point on a resume.

        At least he achieved what he did on his own rather than getting affirmative action at every step despite being a moronic loser drunk, like your guy.

        1. Way to beg the question Tony. We are talking about his pre presidential resume. Why did anyone thing he was qualified to be President when he had accomplished nothing.

          Bush had been governor of a state. That is more than Obama ever did. I know you have a pretty low IQ. So it is understandable that maybe you would think Obama was smart. But not every liberal is like you. So it is a fair question to wonder what they saw in him.

          1. The point is the election is over and therefore Obama has more relevant experience for the job than all but four other living humans on earth.

            I’m not sure what others saw in him, I was for Hillary. By the general I think what people saw in him was that he was not another massive Republican disaster in the making.

            1. The point is the election is over and therefore Obama has more relevant experience for the job than all but four other living humans on earth.

              So I guess Bush was more qualified than Kerry in 2004 by your estimation. God Tony, you really are comedy gold.

              Failing at a job doesn’t make you qualified for it by virtue of your experience.

              1. I’m saying this exercise is pointless. You’re right, even though Bush had the maximum experience at the job, we don’t want that failure back.

            2. And note the I supported Hillary line. I suspect by fall of 2012, there will not be a single liberal willing to admit they ever supported Obama in the 08 primaries. I guess he got the nomination by aliens coming to earth and voting for him.

              1. I really did support her because I didn’t think Obama was electable. I was happy to be proved wrong.

                1. Are you still happy to have been proven wrong? Do you have any evidence that he has not been the worst possible president, or are you just going to go back to “McCain would’ve been worse?”

                  1. There are few instances where I think Obama did the wrong thing given the circumstances, given that I generally agree with his policy goals.

                    If you’re blaming the state of the country on him then you probably expect too much from a president, which is a curious habit of people who also hate him.

        2. LOL

          He wouldn’t even be a state senator if he was a white guy.

        3. Tony, you are preaching to the choir if you are referring to GWB.

          However, pointing your fingers at GWB in a “him, too” fashion does not thereby gainsay the aforsaid.

          1. John, I can’t give too much credit to GWB for being the guvna and for being part owner of the Rangers. To argue that daddy and family connections did not play a role would be an error of judgment. Let’s face it, if he was George Walker, he would never have been either.

            1. Bush beat a sitting governor who was reasonably popular. That is no mean feat. If he had been a rep or something, you could say he got it because of his dad. But being governor of a big state like Texas takes more than being someone’s son. There are a lot of idiot sons in the world. But few of them become governor of the second largest state.

              1. The Texas governorship is one of the weakest in the country. It’s a figurehead position.

                1. As opposed to the incredible power wielded by a state representative in Illinois or a first term US Senator.

              2. Good point.

                How about Teddy Kenedy’s first senatorial campaign? IIRC, didn’t he beat the son of a sitting speaker of the house?

        4. If you don’t see his media support as affirmative action, then you are blind.

        5. “At least he achieved what he did on his own rather than getting affirmative action…”

          Not according to Prof. Henry Louis Gates Jr.

          Jump to 49:00.

          http://video.pbs.org/video/1906000944/

        6. “your guy”

          Behold, the return of Kreskin.

          Or Deanna Troi.

        7. At least he achieved what he did on his own rather than getting affirmative action at every step

          HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA…..
          HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA…
          HOOO…

          No, but seriously, your mom was part of some liberal needle exchange program, right?

  27. As a frm Civilcrussader against ma noriega, I know this plan is not new. Cities fall to this castrogov copy system: anamontes “legal world still used by police, judges, politicians, civillian infiltartion, castrocoyote armies as a motivator, have even untangible payment, impunity goldshine…
    lidio, from 119calle8 policepredhornhouse vidio (police even pointed at me while “the costumers of the video” tryed paralegaly to “streetfight problem any level tryings on me (police gunpointed me several times/day, for months… untill I started blogging their tags/names), to then… rape/linch me (“normal” under police custody, to anyone), and after they felt any time I didn’t go to physsical (and they will loose any time because I’m a backinjury anti-terror propaganda master, I destroy these kind of “imbecile… oops invisible ACORN ORK$, I have developed my self designed “VISIBLE RAYS”, live denounce (expl: acorn, is now visible and the salaryed imbeciles (un)famous…
    But, as I said: any singkle police (expl: cptn noel, off dominic, judge pedraza, mayoral varez police, kfrundell, etc KNEW (I denounced for ayers) castrocoyote lourdez martinez will against my bloodline family miamidade/ma noriega/martinelli (his counsin jailed on Mexico for castrocoyote insurgency) “imposed me by law” a castrocoyote parapolitical parafamily, and I just propagandized that instead of just give kfrundell the proves she always ask and file cases easyly” as a part of an old terror (castro/ayatola/RUSIA/and any enemy) to destroy TEA Repvblic of The USA, from ‘the inside”, ranking by osady, with gov lists and info…
    stay tunned, I have to deal with lidio, a police pred favorite, has police female/male visitings… so “I see and surrender”, no one can’t stop this ‘powerfull’ gov salary people/benefit$, “bosses”, owners…
    I will explain better why this “thing” is after you American freedomfighters, and after you… the population… the people…
    and without US, they are govwarg$ loose, you recognize’em by their words, Moregovi$h, a language I won’t pronuntiate here…

  28. As a frm Civilcrussader against ma noriega, I know this plan is not new. Cities fall to this castrogov copy system: anamontes “legal world still used by police, judges, politicians, civillian infiltartion, castrocoyote armies as a motivator, have even untangible payment, impunity goldshine…
    lidio, from 119calle8 policepredhornhouse vidio (police even pointed at me while “the costumers of the video” tryed paralegaly to “streetfight problem any level tryings on me (police gunpointed me several times/day, for months… untill I started blogging their tags/names), to then… rape/linch me (“normal” under police custody, to anyone), and after they felt any time I didn’t go to physsical (and they will loose any time because I’m a backinjury anti-terror propaganda master, I destroy these kind of “imbecile… oops invisible ACORN ORK$, I have developed my self designed “VISIBLE RAYS”, live denounce (expl: acorn, is now visible and the salaryed imbeciles (un)famous…
    But, as I said: any singkle police (expl: cptn noel, off dominic, judge pedraza, mayoral varez police, kfrundell, etc KNEW (I denounced for ayers) castrocoyote lourdez martinez will against my bloodline family miamidade/ma noriega/martinelli (his counsin jailed on Mexico for castrocoyote insurgency) “imposed me by law” a castrocoyote parapolitical parafamily, and I just propagandized that instead of just give kfrundell the proves she always ask and file cases easyly” as a part of an old terror (castro/ayatola/RUSIA/and any enemy) to destroy TEA Repvblic of The USA, from ‘the inside”, ranking by osady, with gov lists and info…
    stay tunned, I have to deal with lidio, a police pred favorite, has police female/male visitings… so “I see and surrender”, no one can’t stop this ‘powerfull’ gov salary people/benefit$, “bosses”, owners…
    I will explain better why this “thing” is after you American freedomfighters, and after you… the population… the people…
    and without US, they are govwarg$ loose, you recognize’em by their words, Moregovi$h, a language I won’t pronuntiate here…

  29. so you use gov funds for this silencing?, and no one would nelieve me?
    you are more imbeciles than alzarkawi…
    and prepare for MY WORDS

  30. erasing blogs?
    miamidadepolice so unmasked?
    you go are going
    to jail for centuries as maddof

  31. Ok, I’m bloggin
    just watch me

  32. The Left looks for heros because it is losing. It has been losing for 100 years. They think the only reason they are losing is because their beliefs have failed to inspire enough people or to reach enough people, so they look to a revolutionary leader who will inspire the masses, who will lead them in the righteous cause.

    Of course they are wrong, and the reason their ideas havn’t been adopted is because they don’t work, and every time someone tries them it results in a disaster of epic proportions. But, they wouldn’t be believers if they knew that of course.

    They’re a bit like an apocalyptic cult, always shouting that ‘The Revolution is Nigh’ and praying for the second coming of Karl Marx … or at least Vladimir Lenin, or Fidel Castro or something.

    1. Ronald Reagan always said he was never a great communicator. He just had good ideas. The left doesn’t get that. It is not that Obama can’t give a speech or that Reagan had some magic power. It is that Reagan was right about things and Obama is wrong. The left will do anything to avoid that conclusion.

    2. Name one good policy a Republican has passed in the last 50 years. Just one.

      The liberals won a long time ago, the Confederate holdouts just never accepted it.

      Social Security and Medicare — wildly popular liberal programs. Torture, phony wars, and trickle-down economics — not so popular.

      1. Popularity is not an indication of either the wisdom or long-term viability of a policy.

        As we are currently seeing, Social Security and Medicare are financially unsustainable in the long term.

        As for good policies the Republicans have managed to enact? I’m afraid the last 50 years has been an unfailing record of statist encroachment that the Republicans have either abbetted or failed to halt.

        So, you’re right that legislatively the left has been winning. But they’ve been losing on the “actually working policies” front. They’ve managed to get their cradle-to-grave welfare state, but it hasn’t delivered the social goods that were promised. Instead, the welfare state is a dysfunctional mess, ridden with perverse incentives and unintended consequences, that has managed to bankrupt the nation while doing little good.

        1. Of course there are millions of old people not dying of starvation for the crime of no longer being able to work. There’s that.

          1. ANd there are millions more building up nice cushy inheritances for their kids. At least the kids who have parents that survive long enough to collect social security, anyway.

            Net effect: transfer of wealth from people whose parents died before they hit 65, to people whose parents lived to a ripe old age.

            1. Give Obama a second term, and he’ll do something about those “nice cushy inheritances”.

          2. Which would totally happen if it weren’t for Social Security.

            But, on the other hand, cleaning up the bodies of all those dead seniors could be considered a shovel ready job.

      2. The liberals won a long time ago, the Confederate holdouts just never accepted it.

        Tell that to all the worthless losers like you destroying London right now. Some “victory” you guys have achieved. You ought to be so darn proud of yourselves.

        1. The English know how to protest, Americans are so hooked into pacifying propaganda it’s scary. We are so fucking useless as citizens, and our news reporting is so completely filtered.

          1. You mean English punks know they can destroy other people’s property, steal some electronics and slap some vague propaganda about redistribution on it and people like you accept it. And they do it because they know the state has taken away British citizens’ ability to defend themselves by disarming them.

            If you think we have been pacified, at least where I live, start some of that shit here.

            1. That’s because redistribution is awesome when it’s not your stuff that’s being redistributed.

          2. Heh, you say that now. When Norsefire is running things in a couple of years you might find that those “protests” were somewhat counterproductive.

          3. Tony|8.9.11 @ 5:46PM|#

            I am so fucking useless

            Fixed.

          4. The English know how to protest.

            You’re a sick, demented motherfucker. You should do the world a favor and go jump off a bridge.

      3. Nixon ended the draft in 1973.

      4. The liberals won a long time ago, the Confederate holdouts just never accepted it.

        And now that the Fourth Turning is beginning to gain momentum, liberals are freaking out as the very foundations of the Central Savior State can no longer support the edifice of the Free Shit Army which sits upon it.

      5. You know who else was popular?

        1. ceasar – he gave them death…and they loved him for it! pax romana babieee!

          1. Oh, so now he’s an intelligent ape? You racist ass motherfucker.

            1. “Lawgiver, who knows the future?”

            2. “Lawgiver, who knows the future?”

            3. “Lawgiver, who knows the future?”

      6. Social Security and Medicare — wildly popular liberal programs.

        If you rob Peter to pay Paul, Paul you’ll be popular with Paul.

        Who’d have guessed, right Tony?

      7. Torture, phony wars, and trickle-down economics — not so popular.

        And all continued by the current liberal administration. Interesting.

        1. I also forgot to add the PATRIOT act, indefinite detention of “enemy combatants”, rendition, legislating through executive orders, invoking executive privilege….

          I could go on, but it makes me feel sad.

    3. Hazel-

      The Left looks for heros because it is losing. It has been losing for 100 years.

      Starting early?

      In 1911, there was no Income Tax.

      There also was no:

      War on Drugs
      Socialist InSecurity
      Mediscare
      Alphabet soups of Gov’t agencies(DOE, HUD, EPA, IRS, etc.)

      The “progressives” have dominated the last 100 yrs.

      1. To be fair, I was thinking of the authoritarian statist type of leftist, not the Democratic Socialist type.

        But, I do think that even the Democratic Socialist are beginning to lose, as it’s becoming apparent to everyone that the welfare state is not sustainable. Euope has been rolling back theirs. Ours will soon follow.

        Wierdly, the Europenas seem to be realizing this first, since their welfare states have imploded sooner. They’re just further along in the cycle than us.

        1. Is there really that much of a difference between “authoritarian statist” and “democratic socialist”?

  33. yeah, prepare also for WHAT I ALREADY BLOGGED…
    BWAA

    1. Someone forgot to wipe their ass.

  34. [that’s not an insignificant bullet point on a resume.]

    Right up there with Castro, Chavez and Mussolini then.

    1. I’ll outdo all of ’em, given a second term!

  35. ah, there are always need for new imbecile terror logi$tick$, I’m just waiting for a nice scoope and the moment…

  36. the election is over and therefore Obama has more relevant experience for the job than all but four other living humans on earth.

    GEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERONMIOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!

  37. I find odd so many people expect ANY President to be their ‘leader’.
    The President is the Chief Politican, the Senior Executive of the Federal Govt of the United States.
    The President wields political power but does anyone actually ‘follow’ him?

    1. Re: BCanuck,

      I find odd so many people expect ANY President to be their ‘leader’.

      Ein Leeder!

  38. Excellent article.

    Unfortunately for the Left, they are secular religious zealots, and they need their periodic messiahs to salvage the destruction caused by their policies.

    That kind of emotional attachment is not sundered by events or even, ironically,that which they claim to worship, reason.

  39. Despite setbacks, failures, and outright betrayals, Obamaphiles in the intelligentsia are finding it hard to fall out of love with “the One”

    Yes, that does appear to be a problem, doesn’t it…?

  40. he’s smarter than me, better informed…and more farsighted.

    Kevin, I hate to break this to you, but Trig Palin is smarter than you, better informed…and more farsighted.

    1. It’s true. I am.

  41. It’s the “Can we jus…jus..get along?” Syndrome.

    Saddened by the realities of mistrust and unfairness in the world, statists fell for the Hope and Change line and wished for a benevolent king of color to heal the cultural divide and bestow gifts and happiness upon the huddled masses.

    Statists love the idea of an egalitarian world where everyone shares everything and communally solves problems without competitive jealousies getting in the way.

    They believe complex products and services evolve from generous offerings by talented people like Bill Gates and Warren Buffet, and that competition and profit are not necessary to develop better cheaper faster things.

    Their fairy tale beliefs in centrally planned communal progress are of course simplistic and dead wrong. They do not understand that a complex economy relies on a decentralized, unplanned evolution of specialties and sophisticated contracts agreed within a predictable (rule of law) legal framework in which government sticks to its charter of protecting speech and property rights with courts, police, and military force.

    They have learned to extort “benefits” by electing governments which exceed this charter and subvert the rule of law, intervene in transactions which do not harm third parties, extra-constitutinally tax and spend and redistribute wealth, and nationalize industries.

    And now the benevolent kings and dukes they elected predictably turned on us and have begun to destroy the wealth machine that is the open competitive economy.

    And they now lament the conflict that has arisen, ironically from the gross unfairness they created by subversion of the rule of law and the constitution.

    They think things are unfair now…wait until the trust in the economy completely erodes and explodes in flame and robbery and death (as we see now in Britain, Greece, Israel), which will be quelled by a vicious police state. That is the path they set us on.

    So can we jus…get along? Not with these tyrants in power.

  42. If you really want to see a good fellating ask a libertarian about Ron Paul.

    1. If you want to make an authoritarian wet, just mention the Marquis de Sade, or Vlad the Impaler. Getting a chubby at those mentions, Urkell?

  43. I didn’t get it then, I still don’t get it. There must have been something mentally wrong with the people who thought he was the Saviour. They projected all this goodness and perfection onto him, all their hopes and dreams and aspirations, even though he was just another guy running for President. OK, he was black – major milestone for the nation. But that and competence are separate issues. I just don’t understand what happened. It was scary to see Americans behaving that way over one man.

    1. He was clever to give very ambiguous speeches, in which people could project their own message. So he appealed to everyone because he reflected their own views. And his blackness gave everyone who voted for him an ‘I’m not racist’ card, expunging America’s original sin.

  44. I think this is getting needlessly messianic…

  45. The terror logi$tick doesn’t $top “ju$because” the victories (over terror) of Just Cause new era, order, war on terror, war for Occident’s children future, so eastern childs won’t be wipped off by t$unamie$ from THE $ame OLD known “leader$” accepted or tolerated by castrocuba, ayatoland, neolibland, rinoliphant$… CHANNEL 7 diane$awyer$ “teams said “Teaparties to be blammed for bhorK’$ $pending $pin… oUSSR’U$ mon$ter$ (uglie$t$ than starwars creatures, even a lotr Moregov’$ na$(i)gul$… “ju$t said (and me “cointidentialy paralegaly “expecting any negative reaction, auuuuthority surviellance… “history”, “records”,
    “something wrong with my mind”…
    Don’t you tell’m “I shot (my “de-invisibility rays” (cmon, won’t accept meninblack Tomyleejhones saying: “what does a de-invi$ibility ray do”:
    I’m sorry Kara…
    a (post the 1ts debtstar real empire ussru$ neolibland) era, order, period, ETC$, I would say, dark.. gov one…)
    de-invi$ibility ray is … for expl… the castrogovsystem had me on their lists to be targeted since my adhonorem/volunteer just another Civilcrussader against MA Noriega (to be back to his prisions/corrections “paradises”, his parties prd and cd rule, the only opposition to the castrogov copy system (actual Panama president’s cousin/cd sec jailed on Mexicolindo (what is left) for castroinsurgency seeking santuaries, exclusion zones…)
    they got me thru castrocoyote lourdezmartinez (singlename) as the “jefa” of my bloodline real family… many of her “church” members jailed by FBI, CIA lately before bhorK$ helpt seeking bailout castrogov, rinoliphant mayoral varez police/ neolibauuuthority GRALATTNYS/”legal” world
    W A R G $/anamontes mentality managing… prototype cities, old socialist ussr “era” plan$, UN$addame$… ayatolands… oil… debt$tar bubblebombing$/ bailout ray$/ po$t madoff tedpalpatinekennedy finantial bubble bombing$/ bhork balrak of moregov’$ “background”…
    I’m injuried, that shall cost you to repeat Moria’$ fall as my “brokendiscs”, votes, and visibility ray$…
    wont let go?

  46. erasing again miamidade?
    ok, again I try:
    as nice as Mjr Healy’s charmy|8.11.11 @ 7:43PM|#
    The terror logi$tick doesn’t $top “ju$because” the victories (over terror) of Just Cause new era, order, war on terror, war for Occident’s children future, so eastern childs won’t be wipped off by t$unamie$ from THE $ame OLD known “leader$” accepted or tolerated by castrocuba, ayatoland, neolibland, rinoliphant$… CHANNEL 7 diane$awyer$ “teams said “Teaparties to be blammed for bhorK’$ $pending $pin… oUSSR’U$ mon$ter$ (uglie$t$ than starwars creatures, even a lotr Moregov’$ na$(i)gul$… “ju$t said (and me “cointidentialy paralegaly “expecting any negative reaction, auuuuthority surviellance… “history”, “records”,
    “something wrong with my mind”…
    Don’t you tell’m “I shot (my “de-invisibility rays” (cmon, won’t accept meninblack Tomyleejhones saying: “what does a de-invi$ibility ray do”:
    I’m sorry Kara…
    a (post the 1ts debtstar real empire ussru$ neolibland) era, order, period, ETC$, I would say, dark.. gov one…)
    de-invi$ibility ray is … for expl… the castrogovsystem had me on their lists to be targeted since my adhonorem/volunteer just another Civilcrussader against MA Noriega (to be back to his prisions/corrections “paradises”, his parties prd and cd rule, the only opposition to the castrogov copy system (actual Panama president’s cousin/cd sec jailed on Mexicolindo (what is left) for castroinsurgency seeking santuaries, exclusion zones…)
    they got me thru castrocoyote lourdezmartinez (singlename) as the “jefa” of my bloodline real family… many of her “church” members jailed by FBI, CIA lately before bhorK$ helpt seeking bailout castrogov, rinoliphant mayoral varez police/ neolibauuuthority GRALATTNYS/”legal” world
    W A R G $/anamontes mentality managing… prototype cities, old socialist ussr “era” plan$, UN$addame$… ayatolands… oil… debt$tar bubblebombing$/ bailout ray$/ po$t madoff tedpalpatinekennedy finantial bubble bombing$/ bhork balrak of moregov’$ “background”…
    I’m injuried, that shall cost you to repeat Moria’$ fall as my “brokendiscs”, votes, and visibility ray$…
    wont let go?

  47. The castromayoral varez rinoliphant/neolibtiCAL gralattny/massive “normal ordinary people “just cointidentialy” paralegaly battling me showing me (a mind/experienced like mine, propaganda master…) what they are doing, the infiltration castrocoyote auuthority santuary cities/gov$, Moregov$ (you don’t “just walk into moregov$” (logi$tick$, “bailout$”, cartels&BHORK; LAWAYER$ at the same time after sheriff D’Arpio, THE GREAT LIDER OF AMERICA’S HOMELAND AGAINST TERROR FOREIN OR “LOCAL” ACORN KIND OF AUUTHORITY, WARG$, MORE THAN ORK$ I call’em, same darkne$$/ a waisteland of ashes, where the enemy never $leep$…
    And the very air you breath… has poi$onou$ taxe$…
    AAAAHHHHHHHNNNNNDD “the great” ayer$ NOT SUPERJAILED, UNDER WATERBOARDING AMONG OTHER NOT TORTURE INTERROGATORY (THERE ARE A LOT, EVEN A BROKEN CD, NASTY PLACES… SUBWORK, ASSYMETRICAL PARA LABOR “PEOPLE”, “PARAPOLITICAL PARAFAMILY”, DOCTORS (UNTOUCHED ON SOFLA ALREADY, SHERIFFES JAILED, MAYORS/commi$ioner$/ even bhork’$ acorn$ OVERTHRONED…. BUT CASTROCOYOTE MASSIVE ARMADA ARE ATTENDED, MEDICARE, MEDICARE, megafraud “territory”…
    Hey miamidade police, I am a proffesional propaganda master for the war on terror before I came to the USA, I did on Europe, and some other places.
    Thru me, your gov”ring$” $ocial planner$, team$, c$ar$ and other trillionaire ugly few gov more I re-direct the energy (experienced since pacific famous Civilcrussade times (no English angry astroturf mobs “protesting” they have no more ETERNAL medicare/aid/whatever social voting mechine$)
    I have a “magic ring” to throw you de-imbecibil… oop$, invi$ibility ray$…
    in fact, right now bhork, you’ll suffer the rays from not only one, but two, two magicwands waving after the magical aproval from the massive TEA… sea… (where dwelves Acuaman, the real “mind telepatic powers”, not bhorK’$ false “mind lecturer”, pretending, insisting the universe to ‘just act like if nobody knew he is a hamm as/chicken TE RROR anamontes govagent, a “poliTED” chavez, from tedpalpatine kennedyvietname$ de$k$… fraus, even said the man went not to the moon “just because of NASA made a NORMAL STUDIO add filmings to mix with the original lunar shots (NASA censured at the time) into a nice PPRR film… and the terror logi$tick at the time just fahrenhipe shots from a woman on the moon giving coffie/text pronounciation to the astronauts, shoes off, and the shortskirt sexy legs/foot on “the moon’s sand, well painted nails…” sexy 60s hair…”…
    “I’m f(beep)g walking over the f… of the f.. moon video$”…
    notice the hate when they say: f… walking, surface, moon…
    and it worked on 2008, and took sandinists back, castropoliticians, tedpalpatinekennedy’s, brithermuslimhood middeast unrest, the London tea provocation (Latinamerica among USA, Europe “France”s naturalborn muslims riots… ma noriega “works” … police… authority, politicians…)…
    Stay tunned, mayoral varezpolice favorite lidio INSIST ME TO “JUST FIGHT HIM (I’M SERIOUSLy BACKINJURIED AS MENTIONED MANy TIMES SO POLICE LAUGHS AS ma noriega, UN$addam, madoff, anamontes, etc. did seconds before they… felt… and I, I warned’em in such a way they laugh before… I saw many of their faces change from tough to littlegirls)
    lidio even jokes police LET HIM RAPE ME or anyone, the shopping parking lot had (known 2 dead people linched, “by permision territory”, I think even film me surely, so bhork, mayoral varez police, kfrundell, martinelly, prd,cd parties, costarricaliberacional (segura’s paralegals), and many of that castroworld mass can rank from those acts, and ocuppy the spaces as assymetrical weaponry to fire against the, now undeffended as acorn/no TEA times, populations, the people…
    bhork$ won’t quit, we won’t quit…

  48. ah!, to pursue anti-terror people, enemy of castros, ayatola, rusia, acorn, mayoral varez, kfrundell, etc, any country is… high treason, death penalty, by the way, you kreeppy crappy $pooky police… politicians…
    psst newmayor (temporary, an I don’t see you arresting castrocoyote lourdezmartinez, so I can propagandize better for the warS…)
    why just tell publicly NO MORE CASTROARTISTS BECAUSE OF CUBA IS TE RRO RIST?
    jail any who tryes to defeat the reason anamontes still jailed!!
    comming up: a surprise

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