And today's "er, what?" award goes to…The Hill's Bernie Quigley, who writes one of the weirder blog posts you'll see, under the headline "Tea Party wins … Who is Nick Gillespie?" All publicity is good publicity of course, and certainly all good publicity is good publicity, but…well, here's the lede:
Until this week Nick Gillespie was an unheard-of editor and writer except to those formidable few who admired his perseverance and looked forward to his rumpled commentary on Judge Napolitano's Freedom Watch.
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It's not the heat, it's the stupidity... er humidity.
You see Phoenix, AZ at 110 degrees with 15% humidity then look at Springfield, MA at 99 degrees with 67% humidity. Sometimes summer really sucks around here.
Pfft. Now the Jacket is simply going to get too big for these simple libertarian mags and the occasional rumpled commentary on Judge Napolitano's Freedom Watch.
Before you know it he'll be partying it up with the big wigs in Maui and he'll forget about us little people who knew him way back when. Strippers, cocaine parties, throwing TV sets out the window followed by the inevitable Betty Ford rehab.
Quigley is a hack. What the hell does "a formidable few" mean, anyway? Now this Gillespie kid... this kid has got what it takes. This kid is going to be somebody. Someday, this kid will write a book!
In Russia, scrotum speed-bags... Wait. No. I just can't do it anymore. I'm a complicated person and I refuse to pigeon-hole myself into the little internet meme to which I've become identified. I'm SO much more than one hackneyed Cold War joke. I can teach today's generation about the realities of life under communism. You can't imagine what it was like in Odessa in the '70s. And I'm more than just comedy, you know. Have you ever seen my 9/11 mural? That's right. Yakov can paint. Oh, don't look so surprised. Anyway, if you'll excuse me, I have to prepare for the upcoming fall semester at Missouri State University, where I'm a PROFESSOR. Yes, you read correctly. I'm a smart guy, and the only way for me to earn respect is to start respecting MYSELF. So that's it. No more "In Russia..." jokes. Got it? Thank you.
We can hope it's true that Nick is becoming more famous, but I suspect the "man on the street" would be unable to identify George Will.
Hoi Polloi will always be as unwashed and ignorant as they always have been.
Yes and we can't remind the naysayers enough that the 800lb General Aldo of libertarian publicity right now is the hot chick intern lovely and talented Michelle Fields.
These people are all referred to in the mainstream media as conservatives.
Hint: conservative and republican are generally interchangeable. Conservative being someone who wants to keep society the same as opposed to progressing. I'm not aware the label has anything to do with fiscal policy, per se.
I sentence you to 4 more years of public school indoctrination.
Speaking of which why doesn't the conservative/progressive scale not allow for view of history that does not view change as hostile or beneficial...but simply changes in taste and attitudes?
Oh wait never mind....I forgot Marxist critical theory...one cannot view history outside the lens of Marxism and still be taken 'seriously".
From the comments to George Will's piece, we learn that freedom=slavery:
DELewes
Mr. Will's piece is a call for surrender to forces our forefathers fought to overcome. Wittingly or not, he advocates return to Golden Rule: he who has the gold makes the rules, and abandonment of Liberal Democracy: majority rule so long as rules don't unduly infringe on minority rights. Golden Rule's latest permutation, Limited Government, restricts government to primarily protecting rights of property and owners. Liberal Democracy encompasses everyone's rights, including the big 3. Francis Fukuyama's 'The Origins of Political Order' provides a thorough analysis, unburdened by ideology, of how Golden Rule lurks in the shadows of Limited Government, destroying authority, accountability and rule of law, the hallmarks of Liberal Democracy.
The Declaration eloquently states our founders' intent to replace governance by Golden Rule, call it Monarchy, Plutocracy, Communism, or Capitalism. They understood predation by other, more powerful individuals inherent in Golden Rule is the primary threat to God given, individual rights, and instituted Liberal Democracy, governance by majority consent, to guard against it. Will sees government as the primary threat.
Under Golden Rule, property rights become paramount; the rest, derivative: growing out of ownership. Secularist Golden Rule adherents say it's the natural order of things, reward for success accumulating wealth. A kind of Roman Republic basis of governance: Caesar earned the right to rule by conquest, successful economic warriors earn the right to make decisions for the rest of us today.
Non-secularists, a quasi-Christian cult of the Elect, see divine law. It's God's plan that some have power. To limit that power through regulation, or empower non-Elect through unions, is heresy. Read Jeff Sharlett's 'The Family' or 'C Street' for details. Yet, Golden Rule contradicts a basic Christian idea at Liberal Democracy's heart: in God's eyes, all are equal, wealthy or not
The cart-before-horse claim that evil, expansionist government is the primary threat is appealing, but it's Golden Rule's evils, not some cancerous attribute that creates demand for government agencies, programs and action. Southern ruling elites deny the evils of slavery, Jim Crow, and segregation, thus the Civil War, 13th & 14th Amendments and Civil Rights legislation. Sweatshops, factory fires kill hundreds in Massachusetts, thus labor, minimum wage laws. Flammable rivers in Ohio lead to environmental regulations. Left unchecked by Liberal Democratic governance, propertied elites will reinforce their secular, Golden Rule rights at the expense of the non-elite's God given rights every time.
I'm not out to get the wealthy. Private property, wealth, private sector, market economics are essential to Liberal Democracy. I just don't want them running the world. They tend to muck things up. Liberal Democracy with authority to reign in dangers of Golden Rule inherent in market economics remains the best protection for individual rights.
7/31/2011 9:34:48 PM EDT
Southern ruling elites deny the evils of slavery, Jim Crow, and segregation, thus the Civil War, 13th & 14th Amendments and Civil Rights legislation. Sweatshops, factory fires kill hundreds in Massachusetts, thus labor, minimum wage laws. Flammable rivers in Ohio lead to environmental regulations. Left unchecked by Liberal Democratic governance, propertied elites will reinforce their secular, Golden Rule rights at the expense of the non-elite's God given rights every time.
Notice that every evil he mentions, except one, represents a violation of somebody's property rights? And that one is only an "evil" once taken out of historical context.
I'm not out to get the wealthy. Private property, wealth, private sector, market economics are essential to Liberal Democracy. I just don't want them running the world.
FOUR SIDES FACING SUNRISE SUNSET NOON MIDNIGHT IDIOT UNIVERSITIES SCIENTISTS WRONG LYING TRUTH IS FOUR 24 HOUR DAYS SIMULTANEOUSLY FOR 96 HOURS IN A DAY THE SUN IS A GOLDEN ORB WHICH RULES THE DAY. THUS GOLDEN RULE.
"He who has the gold makes the rules". It sounds like he doesn't like Corporatism but he is too idealistic about big government to see that it is the problem.
Bzzzt! Wrong. Minimum wage laws were instituted to price "industrial residuum" (women, children, blacks, Jews, Chinese, and Italians) out of the labor market, who typically agreed to work for less than white, Anglo-Saxon laborers.
Washington Insiders and the MSM are gearing up for a new drive to bash the Tea Party, and then associate anybody who challenges them with it. That's not new but this one will be the strongest, most organized effort to date.
It's going to backfire, of course, because they don't realize yet how much everybody hates them. I don't think I know anybody, Republican or Democrat, who gives a rats ass about what the establishment is saying anymore.
My aunt grew up in NZ and is an All Blacks fan, for which I am grateful because I otherwise might not know about the haka. Coolest thing ever. Even the less hot guys on the team must get laid like rockstars.
I'm conflicted about the publicity (which has been needed) vs. staying on the fringes which I feel adds credibility. This last week has seen an influx of insane commentary on Reason that is right in line with the normal insane ignorant attention of the MSM. Catch-22. If you want to spread the message (less this party that party but logical, reasoned debate on politics and economics) you'd like to go beyond preaching to the choir, but going beyond the choir almost instantly kills the true message... KILL ME.
I like to think of it as an oppurtunity to call a whole new crop of inane commenters something like "pus-sailing skintags" or "choadswaddling felchgarglers."
CountMelancholy 8 hours ago in reply to maltboy59
They are starving because your government is imposing crippling sanctions on the country. If you want to blame anyone, blame yourself for allowing your government to do this to a people.
Yeah, but my murderous cynicism coupled with my cantankerous apathy amount to little more than me hurling scatalogical insults at anonypussy, the shiteater.
Oh, c'mon guys. Anything said or published in support for NorK is ultimately regime propaganda. Sure, it's funny (sortof) but not to be taken seriously.
Hey, I was reading Gillespie way back when he was still undergound -- before he sold out to the Big Media suits and started appearing all over the TV like Billy Mays. But you wouldn't have heard anything about him during that period, it was really obscure.
I don't think George Will is a mainstream conservative, I think he leans much farther libertarian than people realize. I was also surprised to see that Pat Buchanan is so anti-war, I assumed he was more neocon.
Nick Gillespie is Rick Santelli?
I knew Nick Gillespie, you're no Nick Gillespie.
George Will at The Washington Post, favorably reviewed his book
"His" book? I see that a lot. Is Welch the co-author or not? Is there a conspiracy to cheat him out of his fame (or infamy)? Is Welch in on it?
Yeah, Gillespie's trying to cheat Welch out of his share of the royalties - all $37.
Well that's just mean.
I have shirts worth more than that.
the alt txt should read "look ma, I'm on top of the world!" in homage to cagney
It's "Made it ma, top of the world."
Dumbass.
Nick Gillespie drank teh TEA?
Who is that guy in the picture who is not wearing The Jacket??
Wasn't the East in some sort of heat wave?
Is one of Nick's super powers that he doesn't sweat?
I googled the name of the business in the picture of the man who is not wearing The Jacket? and it appears to be located in San Francisco.
It's on the bay waterfront.
Heat wave? what a bunch of pussies.
It's not the heat, it's the stupidity... er humidity.
You see Phoenix, AZ at 110 degrees with 15% humidity then look at Springfield, MA at 99 degrees with 67% humidity. Sometimes summer really sucks around here.
That's nice but here in Houston we get the high temperatures and the humidity. Plus its not sometimes.
Come back and cry when you get 12 feet of snow in the winter.
Perhaps you'd prefer 20' of water.
12 feet of snow in the winter
12 feet? Is this cumulative?
Who is that guy in the picture who is not wearing The Jacket??
He's the same guy who thinks people who obsess over his wardrobe are assholes and should get a friggin' life.
Pfft. Now the Jacket is simply going to get too big for these simple libertarian mags and the occasional rumpled commentary on Judge Napolitano's Freedom Watch.
Before you know it he'll be partying it up with the big wigs in Maui and he'll forget about us little people who knew him way back when. Strippers, cocaine parties, throwing TV sets out the window followed by the inevitable Betty Ford rehab.
Nick, we hardly knew ye.
I can't condone throwing TV sets out the window, but I though strippers and cocaine parties were part of the Reason culture.
come for the libertarian discussion. stay for the strippers and cocaine!
This is why we fail. We have our priorities backward.
Man, I'm not some crank vandal swinging the TV about at random
"...aficionados knew him to be the original item and deeply admired him. But no one else did."
It's really a stab at the Hit & Run commentariat, isn't it?
We're the aficionados. I guess he's callin' us fanboys? Or are we the "no one"?
There's gotta be some kind of cognitive bias where people think no one else knew about something--until they discovered it themselves.
Something doesn't exist until the cool kids are talking about it.
Obviously we're not the cool kids.
I thought Nick Gillespie arrived after he tore Bill Maher a new asshole.
I thought Nick arrived years ago when i first saw him hocking his new book Choice on C-span
Quigley is a hack. What the hell does "a formidable few" mean, anyway? Now this Gillespie kid... this kid has got what it takes. This kid is going to be somebody. Someday, this kid will write a book!
I was hoping to put "described as 'formidable' in The Hill" on my resume, but I don't know if anybody outside of D.C. has heard of The Hill.
In the 60s that something was called sex, I think.
"...someone speedbagging my scrotum." Awesome.
"Speed bag them before they speed bag you."
In Russia, scrotum speed-bags... Wait. No. I just can't do it anymore. I'm a complicated person and I refuse to pigeon-hole myself into the little internet meme to which I've become identified. I'm SO much more than one hackneyed Cold War joke. I can teach today's generation about the realities of life under communism. You can't imagine what it was like in Odessa in the '70s. And I'm more than just comedy, you know. Have you ever seen my 9/11 mural? That's right. Yakov can paint. Oh, don't look so surprised. Anyway, if you'll excuse me, I have to prepare for the upcoming fall semester at Missouri State University, where I'm a PROFESSOR. Yes, you read correctly. I'm a smart guy, and the only way for me to earn respect is to start respecting MYSELF. So that's it. No more "In Russia..." jokes. Got it? Thank you.
Alright there, get a grip Peggy.
Wait, the Tea Party is entirely made up of libertarians? Since when?
This is a simple fact.
This is a "simple" assertion. It's no longer Thursday, right?
Doesn't count, because MNG is kidding, not trolling.
Wow, if that's the case then there are a whole lot more libertarians than I thought there were.
The writer is clueless.
We can hope it's true that Nick is becoming more famous, but I suspect the "man on the street" would be unable to identify George Will.
Hoi Polloi will always be as unwashed and ignorant as they always have been.
Nick Gillespie has arrived. And so has the Tea Party.
What is this tea Party that you speak of?
Before this week I had never heard of it.
Nick Gillespie has arrived. And so has the Tea Party.
So he's saying that Nick is racist?
Nick Gillespie wrote Ron Paul's newsletters. True Story.
no, he's saying nick's old n fat
All publicity is good publicity of course
Yes and we can't remind the naysayers enough that the 800lb General Aldo of libertarian publicity right now is the hot chick intern lovely and talented Michelle Fields.
Thank you! You must always preface mention of the lovely Michelle Fields with the word lovely.
Matt is the point in time that you admit that you wrote the whole book at Nick is actually a monster of your own creation?
Yes. Nick Gillespie is the jacket. The man you see in the picture is just a vehicle for it.
The first rule of reason.com is you don't talk about reason.com.
I think you accidentally the whole thing. Or I did.
Apparently Matt Welch is some specific moment and Nick Gillespie is a location.
Or maybe Nick sat on one side of the room while Matt wrote the book at him.
eye h8 u all
Being compared to someone who died two days after his book was published also seems a bit awkward.
Awkward or thinly-disguised wishful thinking?
"Who is Nick Gillespie?"
A chanker on the asshole of America.
True Story.
Wait this is the Friday funny???
Racist!!!
...and not funny.
Is George Will a mainstream conservative? He's more of a small government conservative, since when has that been mainstream?
Hint: Not all Republicans are "conservative". See David Brooks, Bill Kristol, George W Bush and John McCain for examples.
Or, flip the coin over from standard Democatic Liberalism.
These people are all referred to in the mainstream media as conservatives.
Hint: conservative and republican are generally interchangeable. Conservative being someone who wants to keep society the same as opposed to progressing. I'm not aware the label has anything to do with fiscal policy, per se.
as opposed to progressing
B-
SIV change for the sake of change is progress.
I sentence you to 4 more years of public school indoctrination.
Speaking of which why doesn't the conservative/progressive scale not allow for view of history that does not view change as hostile or beneficial...but simply changes in taste and attitudes?
Oh wait never mind....I forgot Marxist critical theory...one cannot view history outside the lens of Marxism and still be taken 'seriously".
Yes, something like that. Oh wait, you seem to think I'm endorsing progressives as opposed to discussing the idiocy of these labels.
This is why I consider myself a reactionary, not a conservative.
Communists are usually more likely to react than plan long term than those labeled reactionary.
If George Will were typical of conservatives and Glenn Greenwald typical of liberals I would be a lot more comfortable with the two-party system.
I think George might like to think of himself as 'the annointer' to the average thinking man.
Tea Party Grammar: The Richard Farina analogy is a Dylan aficionado?
From the comments to George Will's piece, we learn that freedom=slavery:
Notice that every evil he mentions, except one, represents a violation of somebody's property rights? And that one is only an "evil" once taken out of historical context.
GODLEN RULE
Teh stoopid is strong with this one.
No, really, we don't want to KILL the host...
I'm not out to get the wealthy.....I just want their wealth.
How does Golden Rule derive from Time Cube?
Time Cube has cool diagrams.
FOUR SIDES FACING SUNRISE SUNSET NOON MIDNIGHT IDIOT UNIVERSITIES SCIENTISTS WRONG LYING TRUTH IS FOUR 24 HOUR DAYS SIMULTANEOUSLY FOR 96 HOURS IN A DAY THE SUN IS A GOLDEN ORB WHICH RULES THE DAY. THUS GOLDEN RULE.
Wait, what does this guy think the Golden Rule is?
"He who has the gold makes the rules". It sounds like he doesn't like Corporatism but he is too idealistic about big government to see that it is the problem.
Sweatshops, factory fires kill hundreds in Massachusetts, thus labor, minimum wage laws.
Bzzzt! Wrong. Minimum wage laws were instituted to price "industrial residuum" (women, children, blacks, Jews, Chinese, and Italians) out of the labor market, who typically agreed to work for less than white, Anglo-Saxon laborers.
Uh, the neterati have known Gillespie since the halcyon days of Suck dot com.
Washington Insiders and the MSM are gearing up for a new drive to bash the Tea Party, and then associate anybody who challenges them with it. That's not new but this one will be the strongest, most organized effort to date.
It's going to backfire, of course, because they don't realize yet how much everybody hates them. I don't think I know anybody, Republican or Democrat, who gives a rats ass about what the establishment is saying anymore.
The force is strong in this one.
This week's friday metal link goes out to All Black props Owen and Ben Franks, who just happen to be bogan metal heads.
And the link:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IwTtJMdSvMg
That's some nice cauliflower ear right there.
And that's some nice metal right here.
My aunt grew up in NZ and is an All Blacks fan, for which I am grateful because I otherwise might not know about the haka. Coolest thing ever. Even the less hot guys on the team must get laid like rockstars.
Well, that's kind of the whole point of athletics.
...Or of having a job, or anything that requires leaving the house, really.
Here's a precisely executed All Blacks' try for you:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WT7IqUbG89g
All blacks
Except for the bassist, but who cares about bassists?
"Make like a bass and be inaudible." 😉
Sepultura + All Black's jersey:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0TanJ9jf-p4
Helio's smile is almost as terrifying as his glare.
"Make like a bass and be inaudible."
Ha. I realized long ago that the common feature of music I don't like in any genre is inadequate/boring/nonexistent bass line. Bass is everything.
Dags, are you Lady Tigra or Bunny D?
Holy crap. The mental image of late 80's Sug bustin' a move to this song made my brain go boom.
Too bad I was already part of the black t-shirt brigade... I missed out on all the neon OP clothes...
Bass is everything.
Even more so if you can add Ron Paul to the bass.
WFT, Warty?! She mentions bass and you don't throw out some Steve Harris?
I guess I will just have to do it for you.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rwY3Ftfdy6M
I was gonna, honest. But it's getting to be RON PAUL season, and I need to start RON PAULing.
Also, Powerslave is Steve Harris' best work.
Best original work perhaps, but this is fucking awesome!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qjfkh7s7rGk
Oh, my six year old daughter started dancing when I cranked up Powerslave. Should I be worried?
This makes finding good music to listen to challenging.
"Local Bassist Fellated"
Seriously, no link because The Onion doesn't even remember that it ran this article once upon a time when it was funny.
Yo! Over here!
Francis Fukuyama's 'The Origins of Political Order' provides a thorough analysis, unburdened by ideology
Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.
I'm conflicted about the publicity (which has been needed) vs. staying on the fringes which I feel adds credibility. This last week has seen an influx of insane commentary on Reason that is right in line with the normal insane ignorant attention of the MSM. Catch-22. If you want to spread the message (less this party that party but logical, reasoned debate on politics and economics) you'd like to go beyond preaching to the choir, but going beyond the choir almost instantly kills the true message... KILL ME.
Catch-22
Paternalistic pandering!!!
PATERNALISTIC INTRINSIC PATERNALISTIC INTRINSIC PATERNALISTIC INTRINSIC PATERNALISTIC INTRINSIC PATERNALISTIC INTRINSIC PATERNALISTIC INTRINSIC
-MMAAAATT DAYMUHHHNN
MATT DAMON!
Here's my tits.
Stop talking.
I like to think of it as an oppurtunity to call a whole new crop of inane commenters something like "pus-sailing skintags" or "choadswaddling felchgarglers."
You got to accentu-ate the positive.
Oh, noob commenter boot camp! (dusts off smokey the bear hat and waxes up flattop)
"blumpkin-giving smegma connoisseurs?
Until this week Nick Gillespie was an unheard-of editor and writer ...
...by Bernie Quigley, blogger of wide public acclaim?
I read that post and I'm not even sure WTF his point is. He seems very confused.
Winner. Who the fuck is Bernie Quigley? What a tool.
Thirded. And if I had to bet, I'd bet Reason gets a lot more hits and print subscribers than The Hill.
Yeah, what he said.
Who the hell is Bernie Quigley?
Exactly! Who's better known, The Jacket or the jackoff?
Is he related to Linnea Quigley?
Wait. Never mind. I still don't care.
He was the brother of the character played by Tom Selleck; he didn't go to Australia.
Y know I like the cut of your jib Mr. Gillespie, Perhaps you have a newsletter to which I can subscribe?...ohh, wiat...CANCEL MY SUBSCRIPTION!
If we are going mainstream i want out.
Hell yeah! We gonna keep it real in the underground homies!
Hipsters...
Come for the story about North Korea, stay for the stupefying comments
If there was ever a time to bust out the Billy Madison reply...
The North Korean government is simply not spending or regulating enough.
It has absolutely nothing to do with North Korea's "S?n'gun" policy in which the military gets first crack at any and all foodstuffs in North Korea.
Coupled with the *hypocritically self-reliant Juche philosophy there are a lot of starving NKoreans.
*hypocritical for a nation whose entire existence is dependent upon outside powers; from conception to present
One of the comments that I read stated that if the US pulled its troops out of SKorea the north could reduce its army and open its society.
That people can believe such hogwash inspires in me a murderous cynicism.
I can't believe someone actually believes that. Sure, they'll say it as some sort of reflex. but they have to know it's garbage, right?
They don't "know" anything. That's why they "believe" it.
Aaaand that's why you're a terrorist, cap l. 'Murderous', you said so yourself. DHS will be along shortly. Stop resisting.
Yeah, but my murderous cynicism coupled with my cantankerous apathy amount to little more than me hurling scatalogical insults at anonypussy, the shiteater.
You so stupid, Count.
Oh, c'mon guys. Anything said or published in support for NorK is ultimately regime propaganda. Sure, it's funny (sortof) but not to be taken seriously.
Wow, just wow. The stoopid is approaching meltdown in that one (CountMelancholy).
PATERNALISTIC INTRINSIC PATERNALISTIC INTRINSIC PATERNALISTIC INTRINSIC
-MAATT DAYYMUHNN
(Websters Dictionary)
-MAATT DAYYMUUHHNN
(Webster's Dictionary)
-Maatt Dayymmuunn
Weighing his options, Nick Gillespie
declined a Chuck Norris/Jack Bauer hybrid stem cell. He didn't want to dilute his genetic material.
Contact The Hill: jennifery@thehill.com
Do they want in on the metal action?
Hey, I was reading Gillespie way back when he was still undergound -- before he sold out to the Big Media suits and started appearing all over the TV like Billy Mays. But you wouldn't have heard anything about him during that period, it was really obscure.
I am so straight nuns use me to calibrate their rulers. Hence the necessity to look up "speed-bagging".
This place was better when Virginia Postrel was the unknown.
So, now, the real question is, "Who is Matt Walsh?" LOL
WELCH! See, even I don't know.
I don't think George Will is a mainstream conservative, I think he leans much farther libertarian than people realize. I was also surprised to see that Pat Buchanan is so anti-war, I assumed he was more neocon.
Will does seem far more amenable to many libertarian arguments than most conservatives.
Still, I don't think he's ready to drink the Kool-Aid just yet.
Pat Buchanan=Paleocon