Fewer Mexicans, whether legal, illegal, or barely legal, are coming to El Norte. That's a trend stretching back a decade or so.
The annual inbound migration from Mexico is about one-fifth or one-sixth of what it was about a decade ago, when it was about 500,000 each year, said Jeff Passel, a senior demographer at the Pew center. Demographers said outbound migration to Mexico has remained stable at about 150,000 annually.
Passel credits three main drivers of change:
• The Great Recession caused job losses across the board, including in construction and other industries that employed many undocumented immigrants. The economy has remained soft since.
• Increased U.S. border enforcement and associated factors including the dangers of crossing the border and the cost of hiring a smuggler, which can run as high as $3,000 per person.
• Shifts in Mexico that include demographic changes such as lower birthrates and social improvements such as greater educational attainment.
Demographers also credit economic development in Mexico for boosting employment rates.
Aye caramba! How can it be? Aren't we still being told by Dems and Reps alike (though more often by Reps for sure) that we've lost control of our southern border and that it's easier to walk across a couple of hundred miles of desert to freedom (i.e., working on a construction site or in a field somewhere) than it is even to score some bath salts at the local mall's Crabtree & Evelyn? Read more.
And yet, yet, yet, aren't the brave, the few, the mestizo that still make the trek creating a crime wave the likes we haven't seen since the Mustache Petes from southern Italy (hi, Grandpa Guida!) started stinking up the country with their olive oil and garlic-based cuisine and their romantical crooning and refused to assimilate? Put more plainly: Isn't crime caused by illegal immigration or even legal immigration a plague among the U.S. border with Mexico? Not on the American side, senor. Take it away, USA Today, who looked at the issue with the help of actual statistics and produced this:
The analysis found that rates of violent crime along the U.S.-Mexico border have been falling for years — even before the U.S. security buildup that has included thousands of law enforcement officers and expansion of a massive fence along the border.
U.S. border cities were statistically safer on average than other cities in their states. Those border cities, big and small, have maintained lower crime rates than the national average, which itself has been falling.
The appearance of an out-of-control border region, though, has had wide-ranging effects — stalling efforts to pass a national immigration reform law, fueling stringent anti-immigration laws in Arizona and elsewhere, and increasing the amount of federal tax dollars going to build more fencing and add security personnel along the southwestern border.
The perception of rising violence is so engrained that 83% of Americans said they believe the rate of violence along the southwestern border is higher than national rates, according to a recent USA TODAY/Gallup Poll of 999 adults.
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"?Andale! ?Andale! ?Arriba! ?Arriba! ?Yiii-hah!"
"Hello, pussy cats! You looking for a nice fat mouse for deenner?"
"I don't see that seelly pussy cats today. He must be asleep. I better wake heem up!"
"They don't make pussy cats like they used to."
"Holy frijoles! That thing runs faster than me!"
"I like this pussy cat fello! He silly!"
Thank you! (That also explains why I was confused, as I was pretty sure that was Anthony Quinn in the photo, but I think of him as Hispanic rather than Irish, so I was second guessing myself.)
Well, I recognize Anthony Quinn, but the other guy eludes me. At least he is wearing the proper attire for the typical 50's Mexican movie - not that that means it is a Mexican movie.
In world relative terms, Mexico is actually not such a poor country. It will probably overtake countries such as France and Britain in terms of economic size one day. Remember the worlds richest man is Mexican.
Now if those drug cartels were run as efficiently like they are now killing each other, Mexico would have an even bigger booming economy.
In world relative terms, Mexico is actually not such a poor country. It will probably overtake countries such as France and Britain in terms of economic size one day.
It actually overtake France and Britain in something: Most people's homes have more working bathrooms in Mexico than in France, and most Mexicans bathe at least once a day.
If this is how loyal Mexican immigrants are to the US, maybe it's a good thing we don't allow them to become citizens. As soon as it's time for us to sacrifice for the common good they turn tail and leave or stop coming.
They DON'T want to become citizens, Hobie. Most come here for the work, not to eat pizza and watch the game on Sundays.
The reason many have stayed is because of the ever increasing difficulty to return to the US to work.
I have such a hard time getting people to believe this is true. The border crackdown created exactly the problem most of the anti Mexican crowd is worried about.
My favorite anti-immigration hypothetical is what if the Mexicans keep flooding in until their entire population is in the US? Looks like we don't havef to worry about the invasion of Mexico anymore, thank Quetzalcoatl.
And then outrage that folks desperate to come to our country for a better way of life for them and their children [...] are still being vilified in the hearts and minds of our countrymen.
That's because most Mexicans, Guatemalans and other Central Americans are Catholic.
How ironic. Nick and the boys forever champion illegals into the USA, but then when one goes to post any Spanish word using an accent symbol, here's what comes up:
There was a problem posting your comment.
Your comment does not appear to be written in an English script. Please comment in English.
One cannot even write the word Si with the proper accent.
It would be nice if the truth was told instead of using people as a political foot ball. It would be nice if the gov was more forth comming on the money spent and if imagrants want to come and become citizens of this country and not come to make it into there old country Im happy with that. But we hear of organization like laraza and such and teaching anti American retoric in school it makes us wonder what is going on. Mostly I believe the Gov is misleading us and causing lots of problems and have lied to us so many times and every media has the own spin on the truth. So what to believe is still up in the air. Sorry to be so skeptical
What is missing from this report are a few other facts. There is an increase in OTM's crossing the borders. The border violence created by the Mexican drug cartels has reduced the amount of Mexicans willing to cross the border. They are taking different routes to avoid the security measures at the border, including routes which cannot be patrolled by the border patrol.
"?Andale! ?Andale! ?Arriba! ?Arriba! ?Yiii-hah!"
"Hello, pussy cats! You looking for a nice fat mouse for deenner?"
"I don't see that seelly pussy cats today. He must be asleep. I better wake heem up!"
"They don't make pussy cats like they used to."
"Holy frijoles! That thing runs faster than me!"
"I like this pussy cat fello! He silly!"
with Osama dead and the Brown Menace turning out to be nothing, what are our overlords going to use to scare the sheople into submission?
libertarians
Obama
OK, the second photo is Charleton Heston in Touch of Evil, but what is the first photo from?
Viva Zapata!
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0045296/
Thanks!!!
it's been ~20 years since I've seen the movie - but I remember it being rather good.
(spoiler) Especially with Zapata becomes the very thing he was fighting against.
Thank you! (That also explains why I was confused, as I was pretty sure that was Anthony Quinn in the photo, but I think of him as Hispanic rather than Irish, so I was second guessing myself.)
I assume Viva Zapata!
I would like to point out that Anthony Quinn was Mexican, though his father was Irish-Mexican.
He played Greeks so often that I thought he was Greek until early adulthood, when I learned that he was Mexican.
Well, I recognize Anthony Quinn, but the other guy eludes me. At least he is wearing the proper attire for the typical 50's Mexican movie - not that that means it is a Mexican movie.
So the other guy must be Marlon Brando, isn't he?
Isn't that Marlon Brando ?
Yeah it's Marlon Brando
who are less likely to engage in crime or use welfare than native-born Americans
Fifty percent of Hispanic households use some form of welfare, the highest rate of any major population group.
Must be all those damn 'ricans.
In world relative terms, Mexico is actually not such a poor country. It will probably overtake countries such as France and Britain in terms of economic size one day. Remember the worlds richest man is Mexican.
Now if those drug cartels were run as efficiently like they are now killing each other, Mexico would have an even bigger booming economy.
"Remember the worlds richest man is Mexican."
Bill gates is a Mexican?
That explains why I can't figure Windows out. I don't speak Mexican.
Last time I checked the worlds richest man was Carlos Slim, from Mexico.
Carlos Slim Hel? is the world's richest man.
And the world's most interesting man is Mexican, too.
Yeah, but he only drinks Dos Equis...
Carlos Slim's dad was a Lebanese emigrante who settled in M?xico. His mom's parents also were Lebanese emigrantes.
It's a bit of a stretch to suggest Carlos Slim is Mestizo.
Who suggested that Carlos Slim is Mestizo?
All I see above is
Nothing WRT his ethnicity.
I believe I've heard that like the United States, Mexico is a nation of immigrants and not all of them trace origins to Spain.
IIANM, the descendants of German and Irish immigrants form a sizeable portion of the population.
So what you're saying is, if you're the child and grandchild of Lebanese immigrants and were born in Mexico, you're considered Mexican?
Amazing.
We should think of something like that for the U.S.
Re: Not Sure,
It actually overtake France and Britain in something: Most people's homes have more working bathrooms in Mexico than in France, and most Mexicans bathe at least once a day.
Sorry... OverTOOK.
Both stereotypes, Mexicans are lazy, or the British do not bath, are untrue. I wonder where these actually came from ?
France.
Cheech & Chong and Mr. Bean.
Re: NotSure,
No, that is a malicious lie: The British do bathe.
The French, on the other hand - yeech!!!!
If this is how loyal Mexican immigrants are to the US, maybe it's a good thing we don't allow them to become citizens. As soon as it's time for us to sacrifice for the common good they turn tail and leave or stop coming.
but their departure opens jobs for americans right?
Re: OO,
but their departure opens jobs for americans right?
No.
au contraire since maids, field labor, construction, lawncare, & kitchen help cannot be outsourced. how many americans will fill those jobs?
Why bother when welfare and unemployment pay better?
how many americans will fill those jobs
Not many, or we wouldn't see so many filled by Undocumented Aliens?
Re: OO,
Zero. The Americans who could fill those jobs are either priced out (due to minimum wage laws) or are receiving welfare.
Not if I have anything to say about it.
Re: Hobie Hanson,
They DON'T want to become citizens, Hobie. Most come here for the work, not to eat pizza and watch the game on Sundays.
The reason many have stayed is because of the ever increasing difficulty to return to the US to work.
"Sacrifice for the common good"? You must be jesting.
They never signed the social contract.
They DON'T want to become citizens, Hobie. Most come here for the work, not to eat pizza and watch the game on Sundays.
The reason many have stayed is because of the ever increasing difficulty to return to the US to work.
I have such a hard time getting people to believe this is true. The border crackdown created exactly the problem most of the anti Mexican crowd is worried about.
Those ingrates. The least they could do is take California with them.
My favorite anti-immigration hypothetical is what if the Mexicans keep flooding in until their entire population is in the US? Looks like we don't havef to worry about the invasion of Mexico anymore, thank Quetzalcoatl.
That's because most Mexicans, Guatemalans and other Central Americans are Catholic.
http://www.economicpolicyjourn.....-that.html
I keep telling you that Catholics destroyed America.
Actual Libertarians hate catholics, and all forms of immigration.
Reconquista !!!
Best Mexican ever: Duncan Renaldo. Hungarian Jew.
BILD TEH DANGED FENCE
How ironic. Nick and the boys forever champion illegals into the USA, but then when one goes to post any Spanish word using an accent symbol, here's what comes up:
One cannot even write the word Si with the proper accent.
S? -- works for me.
Actual Libertarians don't need accent symbols
IN RUSSIA Symbols Accent YOU!
It would be nice if the truth was told instead of using people as a political foot ball. It would be nice if the gov was more forth comming on the money spent and if imagrants want to come and become citizens of this country and not come to make it into there old country Im happy with that. But we hear of organization like laraza and such and teaching anti American retoric in school it makes us wonder what is going on. Mostly I believe the Gov is misleading us and causing lots of problems and have lied to us so many times and every media has the own spin on the truth. So what to believe is still up in the air. Sorry to be so skeptical
What is missing from this report are a few other facts. There is an increase in OTM's crossing the borders. The border violence created by the Mexican drug cartels has reduced the amount of Mexicans willing to cross the border. They are taking different routes to avoid the security measures at the border, including routes which cannot be patrolled by the border patrol.
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