Remembering a Father Who Was Born in the Soviet Union
Reason contributing editor Cathy Young remembers her father, who was born in the Soviet Union and died last month at age 75:
Born Alexander Jung in Moscow in 1935, my father was 12 when both his parents were imprisoned in the Gulag camps….
When I came home from school at the age of 7 and started talking about how lucky I was to live in the Soviet Union rather than under the capitalist yoke, my father decided to take matters into his own hands. Plenty of educated Russians in the 1970s were closet dissidents, but not many of them spoke frankly about politics in front of their children. My mother would often remind me to be discreet at school, and I would earnestly answer, "I know -- or Daddy will go to jail."…
My father's candor was not limited to home and family. To him, one of the worst things about the Soviet regime was that it forced most of its subjects to live a lie; and that was something he tried to avoid as best he could….
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I miss Cathy.
Recently I was looking up some stuff about Dworkin and noticed her reason articles were referenced on wikipedia.
The chief editor at comics alliance was going on one of her weekly rants about Scott Adams...i guess he said men are predisposed to rape or some such bullshit.
Anyway I remember Dworkin has written similar things and i wanted a good quote for the comments.
And Cathy delivered.
Dad thought I was too wishy-washy in trying to see both sides of an argument
I concur
On the one hand, that's a pretty tasteless thing to say about a recently bereaved person's dead father. On the other, I do agree.
How exactly is it tasteless to agree with someone?
I concur
Two words: Charles Kinbote.
This is a moving tribute to a remarkable man.
"one of the worst things about the Soviet regime was that it forced most of its subjects to live a lie"
I wonder what lie he is referring to exactly. That it's better to work together and have everything provided for you, such as education and health care, than to have a system like ours where the rich work to deny the basic necessities to 90% of the country in order to hoard more money for themselves?
I wonder if these so-called "dissidents" were any different than our current Faux News disciples and tea-bagging nuts who are idealogically allergic to the idea of any system other than total decentralization (except for money to fight wars) and who spread lies in order to thwart a progressive government from providing the poor decent health care.
These dissidents may have also been brainwashed by their own kind. In the Soviet Union you were provided a job, a house and the necessities like health care. Our system has 9% unemployment, people living in under bridges and dying prematurely because of a lack of health care. I doubt that's what they would have preferred had they known.
Not a bad trolling... I've seen better, though.
It's a low bar to begin with.
Wow, what a dick. And in response to a heartfelt tribute to someone passed, no less.
here?
Unlike you, who would never start a petty fight in a memorial thread. Oh, self-awareness, how does it work?
Pusillanonymous|6.19.11 @ 9:20PM|#
..."Oh, self-awareness, how does it work?"
Pretty obvious it's a mystery to you.
It's a joke, dude. Relax.
the troll sockpuppets around here are getting too self referential...worse then an episode of Family Guy.
Come on sockpuppets time to realize that everyone here does not dive into the Reason comments on a daily basis.
Calmer than you are.
You are tiresome. Shut the fuck up, anonopussy.
...calmer than you are.
"A Rotund Bowler"
A stupid shit troll.
Sevo, when your vagina suppurates and becomes itchy, it's time to seek medical attention. Don't take it out on people around you; they'll just assume you're on the rag.
And when you start using Latin phrases for--what, superiority? confidence? folk treatment for loggorhea?--most people are just going to assume that someone bigger and stronger shoved a mortar board up your ass at some prior date, and it left an impression.
"A Medical Opinion"
A stupid shit troll.
The milky, white, cottage cheese like discharge is not for eating!
A Helpful Note|6.19.11 @ 10:57PM|#
"The milky, white, cottage cheese like discharge is not for eating!
Read, but too much shitslinging for more than this.
Shitslinger.
"You're a poopy head, double dog, no backsies! Pooooopy head! Everyone knows you're a poopy head cause you poop!"
One might think you have a scatological fixation, considering.
A Medical Opinion, you amuse me 🙂
Res Publica Americana, pull that stick out of your ass.
That isn't me. The only person I've ever spoofed is Tony, and I haven't trolled before.
Unless you count this Inquisitor stuff, but I just used that to mock MNG yesterday.
"In the Soviet Union you were provided a job, a house and the necessities like health care."
I know this is a troll, but just in case someone reads this and doesn't know:
Yes, you got a job where you pretended to work, and the government pretended to pay you. You got housing that wasn't fit for humans to live in, and you got 'health care' that if you waited long enough would, give you an aspirin.
Nick and Matt, along with Tony Judt reference Vaclav Havel's recipe for freedom: 'Call things by their real names.'
What you really got was slave labor, a hovel and an empty promise.
I'm tired of lefties promising that "down" actually means "up" if you're willing to believe their horseshit.
You forgot to mention the part about if you complain about the government you go to jail or worse.
Again, the real name:
Certain thoughts were illegal, with the very possible punishment of being killed.
sevo is, of course, an expert.
A Lingering Fart|6.19.11 @ 9:10PM|#
"sevo is, of course, an expert."
Non sequitur: "Latin for "it does not follow." It is most often used as a noun to describe illogical statements."
Thank you.
Da mihi sis crustum Etruscum cum omnibus in eo.
See, that's a non sequitur.
And you're welcome...I guess?
"And you're welcome...I guess?"
Stupid shit troll remains stupid shit.
Stupid shit.
You see, sevo is a connoisseur of shit. He can tell the stupid ones from the literate ones by its consistency on the tongue.
A Shiteating Grin|6.19.11 @ 10:02PM|#
"You see, sevo is a connoisseur of shit..."
Nope, a connoisseur of shitslingers.
I'm more than familiar with those who offer obscure references or write in obsolete languages in the hope that those reading them might believe the ignoramus in question is somehow "smart" rather than the shitslinger s/he really is.
I'm sure your momma trotted you out and listened to your shit, while exclaiming to the unwilling audience about how "clever" you were. Well, your momma lied and the audience who wondered whether Jamie/Janie would ever learn to STFU were right.
Obfuscation is the first and last refuge of shitslingers, shitslinger.
Nope, a connoisseur of shitslingers.
You sample shitslingers? What sauce are they best with, I wonder? Surely you could tell us!
I'm more than familiar with those who offer obscure references or write in obsolete languages in the hope that those reading them might believe the ignoramus in question is somehow "smart" rather than the shitslinger s/he really is.
Given this thread here (just who started with the Latin shit, again?), this has got to be the funniest self-defeating rant I've ever read.
Obfuscation is the first and last refuge of shitslingers, shitslinger.
reply to this
Oh? I thought shit was the first and last refuge of shitslingers. Or is it just a clever name? Oh, you and your clever names! Mommy would be so proud of you!
A Surprised Countenance|6.19.11 @ 10:55PM|#
"You sample shitslingers? What sauce are they best with, I wonder? Surely you could tell us!"
Too boring, didn't read. Shitslinger is shitslinger.
Whenever I see "sevo", I can't help but think of this.
Certain thoughts were illegal....Damn Soviet precogs
I wish my serious comments under my real name got as many responses as my trolling ones.
The one that gets me is when people talk about the longer waits and inferior care in Canada as being an acceptable price for universal "access" to health care. So, from what I gather, not having the government pay for you as a matter of policy means you have no access, but having the government promise to pay for you but not being able to still constitutes "access". To me it just sounds like the government writes blank checks.
I wish my serious comments under my real name got as many responses as my trolling ones.
Make better or funnier comments then. This is H&R, dude; you have to work for your responses!
and 30 or is it 40 million dead, yes, dead, like, killed. That's the price for his workers' state. For bloody Stalin apologists, that's okay. Embrace it, choneey....
Up to 50 million uninsured now, as a result of a system that would rather they die then tax the rich and insure them, is that really so much better?
They could have moved to Mao's China if they didn't like it.
Choney|6.19.11 @ 8:49PM|#
"Up to 50 million uninsured..."
Yep, those folks just won't buy car insurance.
What was your point?
Up to 50 million uninsured now
Lets see 25 million of which can afford it yet because they are young and healthy choose to buy beer.
Another 15 to 20 million who are eligible for government funded health care yet for some reason do not apply.
Then the rest are children who are covered only their parents did not list them on their insurance coverage they get from work.
There might be a million or two which really do need coverage....but if government simply covered their insurance it would cost no where near what the price of Obamacare costs.
Hell the cost of Obama's new war in Libya probably would cover it.
Anyway the default position of libertarians is not to let the sick die on the streets. It usually involves vouchers and setting up market conditions so that providers have the intensive to lower costs and increase quality. ie consumer choice.
Obamacare offers the exact opposite...less consumer choice which means higher costs and lower quality.
Of course you know all this Choney...you choose to ignore it and instead beat the crap out of strawmen.
I think I like the Sockpuppet Choney more then you....at least he has some honesty.
intensive = incentive
I think I like the Sockpuppet Choney more then you....at least he has some honesty.
Did I miss something here? Isn't Chony a sockpuppet in the first place? I was always under the impression that it was an amalgamated spoof of Chad and Tony.
Really?
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I hate you all!!!!
*slams door and turns up the volume to Zeppelin's Physical Graffiti.
...but you had to have been joking, right?
but it like, wasn't "real" marxism, man! Trotsky was like, totally the real deal! (http://www.marxists.org/archive/trotsky/1920/terrcomm/ch04.htm)
I wish she had gone into detail about her parent's exit from the SU
OK, now I understand a little better why Young is so worked up about the Dread Russian Menace all the time.
I did not know this about her.
She just needs someone to hold her hand and gently remind her, over and over, that the Soviet Union doesn't exist any more. Maybe Robin Williams could reprise his Good Will Hunting character and took on this function.
Ah, the glories of the Soviet Union. They had more farmland than America has land, more natural resources, more precious metals, and yet, they had a declining life expectancy.
This was a lovely column, trolls notwithstanding.
It's the little things.
Met a lady once who grew up in East Germany, in a "middle class" family. When the wall fell she took the opportunity to visit West Berlin.
During her stay, that time of the month rolled around. She asked a hotel maid where she could purchase supplies.
The maid took her across the street to a big, well-stocked store where even maids could shop, and pointed out the aisle filled with a wide variety of tampons and napkins.
Turns out even well-to-do women in the East still had to queue for hours hoping to find cotton-wool and linen to make their own pads. The maid didn't even remember her mother having to do that.
The lady never went back East.
is good