Restrepo Director Killed in Libya
Tim Hetherington, who co-directed, with Sebastian Junger, the acclaimed documentary Restrepo, was killed today in Misrata. In his last Twitter communique, Hetherington wrote: "In besieged Libyan city of Misrata. indiscriminate shelling by Qaddafi forces. No sign of NATO." CNN has details:
Tim Hetherington, an esteemed photojournalist and an Oscar nominee for a gritty and harrowing documentary about the Afghan war, was killed in the war-torn Libyan city of Misrata, the president of the agency that represented him said Wednesday.
Other photographers were reportedly hurt in the incident that killed him. Panos Pictures, which employed Hetherington, confirmed that the photographer's family had been notified.
"We're still trying to figure out front lines or house," said CSPR agency president Cathy Saypol in reference to where he was when killed. "The only thing we know is that he was hit by an RPG with the other guys." An RPG is a rocket-propelled grenade.
The Restrepo trailer:
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what can anyone say?
How's that, rectal?
Also, Chris Hondros was killed. He was a badass war photographer.
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/04.....phers.html
He's part of my Wolfpack family and we're mourning him...
Bummer.
Kinetic Military Action zones are dangerous.
I have a lot more respect for the guys that going into the field to get the scoop than guys that sit at a desk and aruge about it.
Ouch.
Really, what a shame. I'm sure he was aware of the danger he placed himself in though.
This. Man, Restrepo was one of the best movies of the year. Obviously he knew the danger of what he was doing... sigh.
Actually, I think if there was a complaint here, it would be about an insufficiently kinetic military action.
This is really sad. Restrepo was one of the very best war documentaries I've ever seen.
I found it kinda boring. Then again my dad was a Marine officer who fought along the DMZ the first six months of '68. He'd have more men killed in an afternoon than those guys had their whole tour. Of course he was surrounded by 60,000 hardcore NVA soldiers with tons of modern artillery. Now that was the shit.
Kinetic Military Action zones are dangerous.
KMA !< WAR
Rest In Peace, Tim Hetherington.
Sorry to hear that. In the same genre as Restrepo, Armadillo is pretty good.
Was Restrepo an anti-war movie? I really fucking hate anti-war movies!
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Every war movie is an anti-war movie.
Even Navy Seals?
*boom*
"I hop he paid his gas bill."
*chuckles*
Even Charlie "The Warlock" Sheen couldn't make that fucking movie watchable. Even having Joanne Whalley couldn't make it watchable. Even having Kyle Reese couldn't make it watchable.
When he does the barrel roll out of the car off the bridge is when I really lost my shit.
She and Val should get back together. To correct whatever is wrong with the universe.
I don't think that's going to happen. You're left with watching Willow again, I'm afraid.
She's in The Borgias as Rodrigo Borgia's mistress and the mother of his children. Not bad, especially since Neil Jordan (who is behind it) stopped directing after the first episode.
She was very attractive back in the day.
Isn't Jeremy Irons part of that? Pope Alexander VI, maybe?
Yes she was.
Yes, Jeremy Irons is Rodrigo Borgia (Alexander VI). Interestingly enough, it's on Showtime at exactly the same time that Game of Thrones is on HBO, and they have similar medieval intrigue type plots.
Which is why God gave us DVDs and the Internet.
Or a DVR connected to showtime east and hbo west.
Or my TiVo that has two tuners and can record two programs at the same time.
Or total consciousness.
Even Red Dawn?
Especially Red Dawn. The only thing worse than the destruction of mens' bodies and souls inherent in war is the prospect of no one standing between you and communist oppression but the Brat Pack.
Charlie could have defeated them by himself. WOLVERINES!
The USA is playing Russia at the Rugby World Cup in NZ this year. I may well go to the game and bring a WOLVERINES! banner with me.
You'll need to dig a hole in the field and pop out as the Russians run onto the field, though.
Ha! Definitely. I'll be the Swayze, my buddy will be Sheen, but we'll need someone very special to go as C. Thomas Howell.
Oh yeah, and if ivan draws first blood then the crowd will erupt in a cheer of "avenge me!"
I'll be the Swayze, my buddy will be Sheen, but we'll need someone very special to go as C. Thomas Howell
Look, don't slag the star of such classics as Soul Man, Secret Admirer, and The Hitcher.
Mac: The reason that shit hasn't been working out for us is because we are not working with our full crew! I'm the brains, (to Dennis) you're the looks, Charlie's the wild card, and Frank is the muscle.
Charlie: Well, what's Dee?
Mac: She's the useless chick!
Mate, I'd never underestimate the awesomeness of The Hitcher!
Look, don't slag the star of such classics as Soul Man, Secret Admirer, and The Hitcher.
Secret Admirer was win.
I'll admit that I like Secret Admirer. And not just for the young Kelly Preston.
When I saw the movie in the theater as a young, impressionable youth, I kept thinking to myself, "Wow, that dark haired girl he's ignoring is way hotter."
Then the guy in the row behind me leaned over to his friend and said, "That dark haired girl he's ignoring is way hotter."
That was the moment I realized I was not alone.
Mac: The reason that shit hasn't been working out for us is because we are not working with our full crew! I'm the brains, (to Dennis) you're the looks, Charlie's the wild card, and Frank is the muscle.
Charlie: Well, what's Dee?
Mac: She's the useless chick!
Best episode ending ever!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYtjpIwamos
WILDCARD BITCHES!!!
I'll do it if it can be C Thomas Howell's character from Soul Man.
Even Red Dawn?
Dude even the communist military officers in that movie lamented war.
Yes Red dawn was anti-war.
Kelly's Heroes? 'Cause I gotta tell you, I wanted to join up right after to go steal gold from the Nazis.
Capt. Stubing on a tank crew FTW!!!
With Hawkeye! And WWII hippies!
"Hi Captain Stubing, how are Gopher and Doc? Permission to come aboard, sir!"
And Don Rickles! And Kojack!
That was an Ace Ventura quote, ProL. Why must you always disappoint me?
Even I knew that.
Sorry, I don't veer from greatness like Kelly's Heroes.
Not to mention I've never see Ace Ventura. Nor do I plan to.
Ace Ventura is great. I must once again ask why you must always disappoint me?
Every war movie is an anti-war movie.
I know the M.A.S.H movie made me want to drink and screw nurses in Korea.
The whore house in catch-22 was fairly appealing as well.
Have you seen John Wayne's The Green Berets?
A better example might be 49th Parallel, which the British commissioned to try to get the American people more on the side of the British (the movie was made while the US was still officially neutral).
Laurence Olivier playing a Qu?becois trapper is alone worth the price of admission.
No, there's GI Jane, Full Metal Jacket (it's only anti-war AFTER basic training), Saving Private Ryan, Terminator (1, 2, 3), etc.
I define anti-war as in Rendition, The Hurt Locker, and any war movie where soldiers either do horrible things or bitch about the war.
Seriously, I'd like to see a movie about Firefighters where they bitch about fighting fire and how only the young fight fires and all that bullshit.
It was just a soldier (Marine) movie. A good one.
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You sure miss Dondero, huh? 😉
Yup. But I miss LoneMoron most of all. How am I supposed to write sections of LoneWacko: The Novel without him?
I miss Jersey McJones.
crayon was fun too.
HURR DURR DURR HURR
I miss Mary Stack. I think one of her cats fell ill and she had to leave.
I miss Guias Marus
He wasn't a troll, though.
He wasn't a troll, though.
He complained that in the US people did not bow to authority and thier superiors enough....
...and he continued that it would lead to the end of the US.
I think I might be having trouble with what you define a troll as.
LoneWacko was a troll's troll. The ones around here now aren't fit to carry his AntiMexican stick. He was so easy to parody, too.
"$24dollarsforheaddon'tcum" had to have been the greatest spoof handle ever.
I am toying with the theory that today's trolls are just as good if not better then the old trolls.
The only reason we do not give today's trolls their due is that the novelty of trolldom has worn off.
Where have you gone, LoneWhacko? A nation turns its LonelyEyes to YouTube.
Do you think his banning was the result of massivecorruption?
God damn it dude, now you're really making me miss him. I had actually forgotten about the runonwords.
I think the editors got tired of him trying to publicly identify people around here.
I think they were tired of looking bad because he was the only one willing to ask Obama the ToughQuestions and post them on YouTube.
I think they were tired of looking bad because he was the only one willing to ask Obama the ToughQuestions and post them on YouTube.
And thus, Joe the Plumber finally (thankfully) fades from the zeigeist.
I think the editors got tired of him trying to publicly identify people around here.
Was he the same guy who accused me of not being Joshua Corning?
Note: Not that Joshua Corning is particularly famous or even happy that he is Joshua corning...which of course made it all the more strange that someone was accusing me of not being Joshua Corning.
Note2: I also don't understand why you guys don't want to be publicly identified.
Note2: I also don't understand why you guys don't want to be publicly identified.
They have Facebook accounts for that.
Some do, some don't.
If you had my nick, you wouldn't want to be publicly identified, either.
What about the catholic abortion dude, Mad Max?
I still got a website.
Without western media, there is no civil war in Libya in the first place.
Therefore, western media cannot logically claim to be non-combatants. They are the most powerful weapon the rebels have, and you expect Khadafy to sit on his hands and treat them like innocents?
Nigga please.
Just to double check, you have more empathy for Muamommomar al'Quaddaffy and his "I have no choice but to do this" current military action, than for Hetherington?
So, by your logic, if I'm a bad, evil man and other people are trying to show the world I am a bad, evil man then therefore there are my enemies and I can kill them? Geneva?
Also, does al-jazeera count as Western media? I'm pretty sure I remember reading reports of unrest there prior to any MSM sources. And if that is true, your "therefore..." holds no water.
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The US has retooled what it takes to be a combatant in the last 10 years.
I never said Khadafy wasn't a bad, evil man. I just said western journalists are not noncombatants.
That some of them will die on the battlefield is to be expected, and it's no more sad than the death of any other willing combatant who chose to involve himself in someone else's war.
It's literally correct to say information is one front, if not the key front in modern war, but killing journos is generally bad for business.
""and you expect Khadafy to sit on his hands and treat them like innocents?""
Does anyone here believe that?
Most of us understand that the reporters in the war zone are aware of the risks. Getting killed by the adversary being the biggest.
and you expect Khadafy to sit on his hands and treat them like innocents?
Given the stakes, I doubt a nasty survivor like Qaddafi to be dumb enough to wantonly kill Western reporters.
From the sounds of it there was close action, an RPG hit his position. Outside of that, there aren't any other tactical details of their situation that I'm aware of.
Yeah i love that poeple do this kind of journalism (I like to watch) but I can't seem to feel all that bothered when an adrenalin junkie dies from the risks of his addiction.
It is always the best swimmer that drown and it is always the war reporters who get shot.
They do know the risks and such, but I feel bad for these people and their families.
I felt, well, I actually kinda chuckled when Anderson Cooper got smacked around a little in Cairo. Greg Palkot's story was a great read about really dangerous situation in Tahrir. But I felt bad for Lara Logan really getting hurt in almost same setup as Palkot's beatdown.
And now good people are dying and that does suck. Like you said about the swimmers, only the best get whacked 'cause only the best try at all in that business.
I mean, why can't we parachute Thomas Friedman in so he can tell us how fucking flat everything is in Libya?
Dont't tell me that if you were part of a wild mob around Lara Logan, you wouldn't grab her cans.
Classy Rob. Classy...
So I guess in the same way you never feel at all bothered when a soldier is killed either? Fireman? Their acceptance of the risks and your lack of a personal connection should not equate to indifference.
Anyways, some very talented photographers/documenters were lost and that is indeed sad.
So I guess in the same way you never feel at all bothered when a soldier is killed either? Fireman?
Good point. But soldiers are put in harms way by imbeciles in the white house and firemen do try to stay alive and both types of deaths can and are mitigated against.
Hetherington on the other hand took the occupation freely, that he could walk away without betraying duty at any time and did so without a safety line.
So yeah there is a difference between the death of a forest ranger patrolling a hiker's trail and some dude climbing Everest.
But in both cases if i did not know them i would not describe it as feeling.
For the soldier or the fireman I would think about what could have been done to prevent their deaths. For Hetherington or the Everest climber I really don't think their deaths could be prevented without severe unwanted restrictions to individual liberty.
"The only thing we know is that he was hit by an RPG with the other guys." An RPG is a rocket-propelled grenade.
I thought it was really pretty girl.
I am just glad it wasn't a Roll Playing Game.
Death my Dungeons and Dragons Fiend Folio would be too horrible to contemplate.
I was hit by an RPG in the bar the other night.
R.I.P. Tim. And I cannot believe my friend Chris is gone... R.I.P.
I posted here in memory of my friend who died today working as a photojournalist before I read all the jackass comments here. I am sorry about that now. Chris and Tim deserve better than that. As a former photojournalist, who worked closely with Chris, I lost brothers-in-arms today. Rest in peace, my brothers.
Jackass comments? Says who!
I see very few, if any, "jackass comments" directed at your friends.
Jim - there will always be a few, just as there will always be the tangental thread (war movies) too.
No word yet that I've seen from S. Junger but I'm sure he is going to be pretty crushed too - Hetherington and him seemed pretty tight. I'm not familar with Hondros' work by name but have undoubtedly seen it many times.
Condolences on loss of your friend.
I'm guessing I am one of the jackasses.
The fact remains that your friend to nearly everyone else in the world including myself was a stranger.
My feelings in regards to grieving over the deaths of people I don't know is factually void. I will not be some selective existentialist as I find the practice inherently dishonest. Literally 1000s of people die everyday.
Was your friend particularly talented?
Yes sure and I recognize that as did Moynihan article, but he died using that talent that he loved by choice.
As a disinterested stranger I do not see why I would not simply see him as dying happy and I do not see why your grief should change that.
He was your friend and his death is your grief. Why the fuck you would want strangers to share it is incomprehensible to me. Be happy that strangers honor his achievements while he lived and the fact you knew him while he lived.
You are not disinterested if you read and commnetted on this post.
Ignore these immature boys. I'd love to hear a story about them; something that made them special to you, personally
Ignore his insensitivity, as the world is filled with self-centered people and there's little you can do to change that. Continue to spread the joy and remembrance of people you knew!
You are not disinterested if you read and commnetted on this post.
I stand corrected. Would "emotionally disinterested" be better?
bad libertarian!
wait, that's standard libertarian
Does this mean that you will not shed a tear when no one cares when you pass? Surely you have some heart for people that die, regardless of reason.
How can he shed a tear? He'll be dead.
Surely you have some heart for people that die, regardless of reason.
Is it heart or is it brain?
but yeah i try to save emotional feelings for people I know. For strangers it is more brain.
Also there are two parts to this. Hetherington was doing what he loved to do. It just happened that what he did love to do was substantially more dangerous then fly fishing. He died happy...which is more then most people can say about anyone.
The grief of a stranger for his passing seems doubly strange. He is a stranger and he lived and died well.
It doesn't seem like the time to weep when that happens.
but yeah what IceTrey said when I am dead i will not care if people cry or not. Grief is only the worry of the living for the living.
Sorry for your loss Jim. I think most of the people here respect the work of war reporters and are saddened by their deaths. I'm not familiar with Chris' work, but Restrepo was an amazing piece that has given me much to think about.
Yes. Restrepo was very well done.
The loss of these men is different for me than the loss of the other combatants, or the loss of other strangers, because they risked their lives to actually communicate what was happening in these conflicts, as opposed to merely compiling a 'report'.
We need more of that, (Michael Totten does similar work) as one of my complaints about our current media is that it's too sclerotic. Without the extra effort by such people, the media continues on its course towards complete vapidity.
Somebody has to actually be there to find this stuff out, and being there is dangerous. But above just being there, they won't settle for the story that's expected, even if it's one they themselves don't want to tell.
That sets them apart from others who have died. No more or less tragic, but different.
My heartfelt condolences go out to the men, their freinds, and their families. I have friends that have voluntarily been in or are in dangerous situations in the Middle East, and I have worried for them also. A good friend of mine once wanted to be a war correspondent in Afghanistan, and was taking steps to do so, before he found his other journalistic calling.
As a disinterested party, I would generally choose to not use the comment section in the way others did. But Mr. Crowley's condemnation is misplaced: This is a news item on a blog. It is not an obit. There's no organizational connection, no funeral information, no wake information. Nobody indicated a connection or personal knowledge of the men. There's nothing personal about it. Nobody has a right to make the comment section of a blog sacrosanct by merely appearing here and wishing to comment. It's completely understandable given the grief, but it's a condemnation that's short on really thinking about where you are and what you're claiming.
I think the callousness of libertarian posters is associated with their autism-spectrum disorder.
Most people have an understanding that insensitivity inflicts pain but libertarians seem genuinely incapable of empathy till the offense is pointed out. I'm assuming they don't perceive visual clues normally either
I think the callousness of libertarian posters is associated with their autism-spectrum disorder.
after we are married and our pet cat dies (of old age after a long and happy life) you will see the tears flow from me like a river.
I will wish to put my head into your lap and weep....I might even suck my thumb.
I want a puppy and you'll have to get in line for that marriage thingy.
Will you get my coffee every morning?
Have you been reading my blog?
This is says that Libya is not safe at this time foreigners who are living Libya now they have to leave that country unless they cant live safely because now Libya has no leadership.
This is a news item on a blog. It is not an obit. There's no organizational connection, no funeral information, no wake information. Nobody indicated a connection or personal knowledge of the men. There's nothing personal about it. Nobody has a right to make the comment section of a blog sacrosanct by merely appearing here and wishing to comment. It's completely understandable given the grief, but it's a condemnation that's short on really thinking about where you are and what you're claiming.
Most people have an understanding that insensitivity inflicts pain but libertarians seem genuinely incapable of empathy till the offense is pointed out. I'm assuming they don't perceive visual clues normally either
A fucking shame...
Most people have an understanding that insensitivity inflicts pain but libertarians seem genuinely incapable of empathy till the offense is pointed out.
Oh, we understand that many people are unhappy when they can't sponge off others.
We just don't care.
OMG a twitter user was killed! Outrageous!!! I didn't give a shit about any of those other people dying over there, but this guy used to tweet!!!
This is ridiculous this shows that now the situation in Libya i think these incidents will continue until Libyan government fell down international community should think on Libya how to solve this problem and surrounding countries of Libya have to try to solve this problem mainly the government immediately resign and put elections.