Reason Morning Links: More Budget Negotiating, Incumbent Wisconsin Supreme Court Justice Trails, Portugal Wants a Bailout

• Budget talks continue.
• Another air traffic controller falls asleep on the job.
• Conservative Wisconsin Supreme Court judge narrowly trails after initial vote count.
• Portugal requests EU bailout.
• Archaeologists discover the first gay caveman.
• New from Reason.tv: "Bernie Sanders' War on Chinese Bobbleheads!"

Comments

[Hooson Furst]

Sallie James FTW!

[fake oakleys]

yes!

[SugarFree]

Why are we getting spam from 1990?

[Corporate Drone]

I think it discovered time travel. Say, are you interested in some hot hot 976 phone chat? It's only $1 per minute for sexy time.

[Fist of Etiquette]

You know who else wasn't human and traveled through time?

[ABCbot]

Watch an all new episode of Cop Rock, Wennesday at 9pm/8pm Central.

[Libertard]

This. More movies with her. Could watch all day.

[Fred]

Of course Portugal needs a bailout. They legalized drugs so now their economy has gone to pot now that everyone is stoned all the time.

[Corporate Drone]

But just think of all the money they're saving on that War on Drugs!

[Mr Whipple???]

I see what ya did there.

[fake oakley sunglasses]

ok!

[STEVE SMITH]

HOW THE GOLDEN GIRLS TURNED A GENERATION OF AMERICAN BOYS INTO HOMOSEXUALS THROUGH ASSRAPE. GRRRRRR.

[SugarFree]

I thought this was the first gay caveman.

[Mr Whipple???]

Tony Curtis was gay?

[SugarFree]

Opinions vary, but Stony was as swishy as a washing machine.

[sloopyinca]

Stony was a few years younger than Rock Quarry, wasn't he?

[SugarFree]

I think you are right.

But both were loads less gay than the Great Gazoo.

[Citizen Nothing]

I think gays just wanted Stoney Curtis to be gay. But Rock Quarry? He was as gay as a pterodactyl.
No gay.

[SugarFree]

Elroy was a robosexual. He gave Rosie golden showers in the zero-g room. Then he let the sparks of her short-circuits burn the peachfuzz of his balls. Elroy growed up wrong. He died trying to rape George's briefcase car.

[Ska]

Yet Bamm Bamm turned out alright. Go figure.

[Otto]

This would have taken care of Elroy.

[SugarFree]

It's sad when the law lags behind morals, Otto.

[WTF]

SugarFree|4.7.11 @ 10:02AM|

Is there something wrong with me that this made me laugh out loud in my office?

[SugarFree]

Is there something wrong with me that this made me laugh out loud in my office?

Probably. Are you relieved or disappointed that I can't seem to find more Elroy/Rosie slash fic?

[WTF]

Probably. Are you relieved or disappointed that I can't seem to find more Elroy/Rosie slash fic?

Disappointed, definitely.

[Steve Smith]

DO NOT JUDGE STEVE GRANDFATHER. EBENEEZER SMITH WAS A MAN OF HIS TIME. STEVE MUCH MORE OPEN MINDED BECAUSE STEVE RAPE EVERYONE, NOT JUST MEN.

[Fist of Etiquette]

Archaeologists discover the first gay caveman.

He had a different definition of "clubbing for a mate" than the other cavemen.

[Rich]

He could have just been a "girly man".

[Citizen Nothing]

Those cavemen were such practical jokers:
Dude, when you die, we are so going to bury you like a chick, so that 7,000 years from now everyone will think you're gay!
Hahahahahah!

[Rich]

Mr. Boehner said that "I do think we made some progress." But he said he wanted to make it clear that "there is no agreement on a number and there is no agreement on the policy side."

Uh huh. From Dictionary.com:

Progress = to go onward in time: As the play progressed, the leading man grew more inaudible.

[Corporate Drone]

So... I guess they made progress by agreeing on the lunch menu. Super.

[Rich]

[Obama] said the 90-minute discussion had helped to "narrow the issues" that are outstanding.

"Narrow the *issues*." "*Narrow* the issues." "*Narrow* the *issues*."

Nope, not quite getting it.

[Brett L]

"We both agree that the other side should capitulate. So there's that."

[Ky Voter]

Another air traffic controller falls asleep on the job.

This doesn't surprise me. I'd like to see you try playing Asteroids eight hours a day.

[SugarFree]

Wha? This isn't in the morning links?

President Obama's close friend arrested during prostitution sting

[Barack Obama]

Let me be clear.

What do you expect from a guy named "Bobby Titcomb?"

[Ice Nine]

I think cavewomen probably combed their tits.

[Old Mexican]

What do you expect from a guy named "Bobby Titcomb?"

Is he related to Heather Higginbottom?

[sloopyinca]

[in silly English accent]

"That's not a woman. It's a man, baby!"

[Citizen Nothing]

Robert Richard Titcomb, no less.

So yeah, when you're Bobby Dick Titcomb, you've got a name to live up to.

[pancakes]

Bobby Titcomb, teehehehe. What a great name for a John.

[pancakes]

Titcomb, in flower print shirt, with President Barack Obama

great caption, says it all

[Abdul]

Sounds like he was foward thinking enough to have thought of a pre-emptive alibis.

"solicit a female prostitute? Me? In this shirt? I rest my case!"

[SugarFree]

Robert Richard Titcomb...

Bobby Dick Titcomb.

[Fist of Etiquette, Pimp]

That costs extra.

[R R Titcomb]

You just had to point that out, didn't you? Oh, well, I suppose I had it coming.

[Citizen Nothing]

Fuck. That's what I get for not reading the whole thread before posting.
(And it really, really scares me that my brain is following the same trail as SF's.)

[SugarFree]

NOW YOU KNOW! HAHAHAHAHAHA!

[rac]

"Prostitutes obviously are committing crimes, but some of them are victims as well," Lavoie said. "So we want to stop the Johns from giving them business."

Victim? Who is the fucking victim? Only poor Bobby.

[JD]

Do you feel nothing for that poor, victimized undercover cop?

[Pro Libertate]

Is he connected in anyway to Tokyo Sexwale?

[Montani Semper Liberi]

The FAA said it is "taking steps to fire" the controller, but has not done so yet.

Good to know there is something that can get you fired from government service. I wonder how long the process will take.

[rac]

Well, as the Union spokesman points out, midnight is the real culprit. Once we get rid of midnight, we'll be OK.

[Unfrozen Gay Caveman]

I'm just a simple gay caveman. Your modern hairless vaginas freighten and confuse me.

[Old Mexican]

Re: Unfrozen Gay Caveman,

Your modern hairless vaginas freighten and confuse me.

Yes, those things sure move parcels a lot - in a confusing way...

[cynical]

Now he's never going to invite you for a trip on his yatch.

[db]

Snatch-yatch!

[Fist of Etiquette]

Democrats hailed unofficial counts showing JoAnne Kloppenburg with a razor-thin 204-vote edge over Justice David Prosser as a repudiation of Republican Gov. Scott Walker's attempt to reduce union collective bargaining power...

No matter which way the count eventually lands, there is obviously no voter mandate to be taken from this election.

[Brett L]

But, but 204 out of 1.5M is a clear mandate. Especially with all the union money spent.

[Axman]

Lots and lots of business money spent too, Brett. Most expensive Supreme Court race (on both sides) in Wisconsin history.

[OO]

considering kloppenburg (d) closed a 30 point gap fm the primary, there's ALOT of mandate on stupid & unecessary union busting. same in ohio w kasich apprival way down

[WTF]

Here's the margin of fraud.

[CaptainSmartass]

Depends on how close the last election was. If the incumbent was originally elected in a landslide, and now the margin is a statistical blip, that could still be considered a mandate.

[P Brooks]

The National Air Traffic Controllers Association union is representing the unnamed controller in disciplinary proceedings, spokesman Doug Church said. The FAA said it is "taking steps to fire" the controller, but has not done so yet.

After the incident last month at Reagan National, the union demanded that additional controllers be added at towers where a single person worked on midnight shifts as a safety measure to limit the risks that a controller could fall asleep.

Fucking union parasites.

[Montani Semper Liberi]

After the incident last month at Reagan National, the union demanded that additional controllers be added at towers where a single person worked on midnight shifts as a safety measure to limit the risks that a controller could fall asleep so they could take turns sleeping.

Fixed for truth.

[P B]

That is what we did in the Navy while on the 00:00 -04:00 watch. Usually nothing bad happened.

[sloopyinca]

I take it you weren't stationed on the USS Cole?

[Kolohe]

The attack on the Cole happened in the middle of the day local time

[Abdul]

What time was siesta, locally?

[Barely Suppressed Rage]

"usually"??

[kilroy]

After the incident last month at Reagan National, the union demanded that additional controllers be added at towers where a single person worked on midnight shifts as a safety measure to limit the risks that a controller could fall asleep.

WTF does the union have to do with safety?

[Ky Voter]

Seriously. A guy falls alseep on the job and his union blames management.

[Lance]

Mr. President,
We cannot allow a bobblehead gap!

[P Brooks]

Was the President's friend buying or selling?

[Barry]

He sells, I buy.

[Old Mexican]

Portugal requests EU bailout.

Say "pretty please, with cherry on top," please... And then grovel like a dog... That's it.

[J[o]h[nn]y L[on]gt[o]rs[o]]

Herc is back at H&R!!!

[Old Mexican]

Archaeologists discover the first gay caveman.

They found him doing another caveman's hair. And it was looking fa-bul-ous!

[Old Mexican]

And now, for something completely different.

[Fist of Etiquette]

I bet that outfit is difficult to iron.

[Nestor Bailey]

Actually, it drip dries.

[kilroy]

Is that netting more effective than DDT?

[Old Mexican]

It's effective enough for me...

[Pip]

NSFW, asshole.

[Jimbo]

An off topic link in an H&R comment thread? Wouldn't you just assume it's NSFW?

[Old Mexican]

I thought wasting time arguing with idiots on H&R is NSFW already....

[Old Mexican]

Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition.

[Pip]

NSFW, asshole.

[kilroy]

If you W somewhere that cares about such things, look at the actual link text moron. If it ends in .jpg, .gif, .png, etc. enter at your own risk.

But I suppose you think it's someone else's responsibility to protect you. Maybe you're in the wrong place...

[Pip]

I simply ask for a courteous heads-up.

[Old Mexican]

Alt+Tab

Use it. Learn it. Appreciate its power.

[Apogee]

I simply ask for a courteous heads-up.

That picture will do it.

[SugarFree]

Most pictures of assholes would be NSFW. Except for at Episiarch's job down at the rimming warehouse.

[Spoonman.]

Why would that require a warehouse, rather than a strip mall space?

What needs to be stored?

I am intrigued and horrified at the same time.

[SugarFree]

You obviously have no head for the rimming business. Did you get a degree in rimming like Episiarch? Did you spend three years learning the craft under master rimjob artisans in Europe? I didn't think so. Maybe you need to shut up before you embarrass yourself--and all of us--further.

[Hank]

Your comments are more NSFW than OM's pics, since no one can see my monitor, but they can hear my suspicious chortling.

[Montani Semper Liberi]

I wonder when the German people will get tired of paying for the rest of Europe's welfare programs. You remember what happened the last time Germans were forced to pay reparations.

[Old Mexican]

Re: Montani Semper Liberi,

I wonder when the German people will get tired of paying for the rest of Europe's welfare programs.

It's part of their atonement... You know, for the Thirty Years War.

[Mo]

A big reason the German government is bailing out those countries is because their banks are the ones holding the debt. They're essentially bailing out their banks for making bad investments.

[Chinny Chin Chin]

The Bloodwurst Embargo of '04?

[kilroy]

Man barks at dog...gets arrested for animal harassment

[Travis Bickle]

"the dog started it."

You barkin' at me?

[P Brooks]

"I'm just glad the police are doing their job," Lavoie said. "Hopefully, the Legislature will continue looking at more legislation to help us solve the problem."

Neighborhood busybodies; always looking out for your best interests.

[SugarFree]

"MY best interests? How do you know what MY best interest is? How can you say what MY best interest is?"

[Fist of Etiquette]

Imagine it, people engaging in sex for money! Of course, Frank Lavoie and the other complainers actually do have to imagine it because they don't actually see the sex. But still.

[Warty]

I went to YOUR schools. I went to YOUR churches. I went to YOUR institutional learning facilities.

[Resto Druid FTW]

Suicidal Tendencies FTW SF. Nice!

[Michael]

How long before we see Mr. Lavoie's name appear in the police blotter?

[Mr Whipple???]

We agreed to make an effort to sell more Made-In-America...

Sounds like a brush-off.

[Apple]

'"From history and ethnology, we know that people from this period took funeral rites very seriously so it is highly unlikely that this positioning was a mistake," said lead archaeologist Kamila Remisova Vesinova.

"Far more likely is that he was a man with a different sexual orientation, homosexual or transsexual," she added.'

Have they even considered that he might have been a straight caveman who was buried that way as a punishment? To shame him in the afterlife for something?

[SugarFree]

Fraternity prank.

[Pro Libertate]

As good an explanation as they're providing. Science is dead.

[Fist of Etiquette]

Maybe it was just sloppy work by the cave mortician.

[Heathers]

I love my dead gay caveman!

[Citizen Nothing]

Fuck fuck fuck.
I'm leaving this place.

[SugarFree]

Yeah, I didn't have the heart to point it out upthread. I was hoping you wouldn't notice.

[Apple]

"Sorry, dude. Nobody cares how brave you've been in battle for the last 20 years. You pissed your skins the first time you saw a Mammoth - they're gonna bury you with the women."

[Pro Libertate]

Plausible. Could've been the slavemaster over the women folk. Or maybe it was in honor of him fathering the most children on the most women? Who the hell knows?

[Hank]

And in a thousand years when they unearth Guy Fieri, surrounded by hair dye and assorted whisks, similar conclusions will be drawn.

[The Other Kevin]

+1
This guy was buried in a way inconsistent with other buriels of the time. So the logical conclusion was that he was gay, duh!

[SugarFree]

Well, since carbon dating tells that those burials happened within, like, three weeks of each other and the tree rings tell us it was exactly 73.2356 degrees Fahrenheit, of course we can conclude that the caveman was gay.

To suggest that we know jackshit about history thousands of years ago would mean that the science isn't settled.

[Pro Libertate]

Whether the very few surviving artifacts of the distant past are in any way representative of the culture at large is anyone's guess.

Every time someone makes an announcement like this to get a media push, a little beaker breaks.

[SugarFree]

This should be the first book that anyone going to school for archeology should read. I doubt we could make them apply its lesson, though.

I'm not sure what we do about the anthropology kids.

[Pro Libertate]

Strip them of their degrees?

[SugarFree]

The problem I have with anthro is mostly structural. I find it a legitimate area of study, but its fascination with isolated tribes is a flawed methodology. Isolated populations are not the mass of humanity, they are dead ends. It's like trying to comment on all cars by only studying the ones that someone plunged off a bridge into a lake.

[Fist of Etiquette]

It's like trying to comment on all cars by only studying the ones that someone plunged off a bridge into a lake.

Or looking around Havana.

My problem with anthropology is that they don't seem to hate Nazis and snakes enough for anyone to make a movie about them.

[SugarFree]

Damn you for your better analogy.

[Pro Libertate]

Of course it's legitimate, but, in practice, it's too prone to fads and postmodern bullshit and not focused enough on the science. This is a common problem in the softer sciences, though I should note that physics may be doing some of the same things with string theory and the like.

[SugarFree]

Yeah, the pseudo-mystical explanations for quantum effects seem to be multiplying like universes in the Everett-Wheeler Interpretation.

[Pro Libertate]

Physics needs a real-world shake up. Something bizarre and clearly violative of the standard model. Which would get at least some of the researchers out of metaphysics and back into studying the real, testable world.

[Zeb]

Well, when the physics is incomprehensible to anyone who hasn't studies it for 10 years, you have to do something to keep the public interested.

[Pro Libertate]

I just finished A Canticle for Leibowitz, which has a similar perspective.

[Pro Libertate]

This is in response to your first post in this sub-sub thread.

[SugarFree]

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[Pro Libertate]

Or something. Maybe in-line images and video to set everything apart. Color coding and biometrics.

[SugarFree]

Seizure gifs.

[Pro Libertate]

Like Hypnotoad?

[SugarFree]

Bbbrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

[Charlotte Sometimes]

Confession: I took so many anthropology and art history classes that I had to choose one or the other to list as a minor. Between the research papers and "critiques," I am sure I exceeded some kind of lifetime quota on writing bullshit.

[SugarFree]

Creative writing major/philosophy minor. I was the bullshit master by the end of it.

[Charlotte Sometimes]

Ah-ha! That explains much, SF.

[Pro Libertate]

Finance with a history minor. Almost a double major. And, of course, a Jack Daniels.

[generic Brand]

Confession: I took so many anthropology and art history classes that I had to choose one or the other to list as a minor.

Confession: I took so many anthropology classes that I ended up graduating with a degree in it. I was more interested in physical anthropology (study of bones) and archaeology though. The main tenets of anthropology are pretty dogmatic, unfortunately. And I agree with both SF and Fist: too much interest in dying cultures and not enough in Nazis or Indians that eat chilled monkey brains.

[robc]

Ive read bits of that. Like a reader's digest shortened version or something. It was decades ago.

On a similar line, CS Lewis had a similar critique of "textual archeology" (my term). He said that in 100% of the cases that he knew the reality the critic was wrong and he had no reason to assume their record would be any better when discussing authors many centuries dead.

[Zeb]

I'm pretty sure that anthropology has yet to produce any testable scientific predictions. Until that happens, it is just attempted science.

[Pro Libertate]

"Officer, what's the charge?"

"Attempted science."

[SugarFree]

"Do they give a Nobel Prize for attempted chemistry ?!?"

[Pro Libertate]

Oh, right. Very nice.

[Michael]

This Sallie James talks like a god damned furr'ner. Say, what kinda name is that anyway?

[Brett L]

Awstrahlian, if the thread from yesterday can be believed.

[fake oakley sunglasses]

great

[fake oakley sunglasses]

that's great!

[foakley sunglasses, fake oakle]

yes! great

[P Brooks]

Santelli got off a pretty good rant this morning. He was in favor of a shutdown. The idiot girl, whatever her name is, brought the hammer down.

"Do you want OUR NOBLE SEVICEMEN AND -WOMEN SERVING OVERSEAS to not get paid???????"

It's simply irrefutable, isn't it? Rick Santelli hates America.

[lil w & his playmates]

and not just santelli. peter king will get on, err...make that to...peter king will get TO the root of it the america hate

[P Brooks]

Science is dead.

It's just, you know....

pining.

[Fist of Etiquette]

Hopefully they don't bury science like a woman.

[Pro Libertate]

For the fjords?

[Grumpy]

Nice PL

[rather]

But this later discovery was neither of those, leading us to believe the man was probably homosexual or transsexual

I wonder about the earliest case of hermaphroditism

[Old Mexican]

Re: rather,

I wonder about the earliest case of hermaphroditism

Are you doing your family tree or something?

[cynical]

It's just a straight line.

[SugarFree]

Well, it does have a loop or two as well.

[Brett L]

Virologist bring his work home with him. Wife unamused.

" study just released in Emerging Infectious Diseases suggests that the researcher, Brian Foy of Colorado State University in Fort Collins, passed to his wife the Zika virus, an obscure pathogen that causes joint pains and extreme fatigue. If so, it would be the first documented case of sexual transmission of an insect-borne disease."

[P Brooks]

The end times truly are upon us.

The administration sought to put a human face on the fallout of a shutdown, casting it as a potential blow to the economic recovery.

Among other consequences cited by the administration:

--The Environmental Protection Agency would cease issuing permits and stop reviewing environmental impact statements which will slow approval of projects.

-- Military personnel would not get paid beyond Friday, but would continue to earn money that would be paid to them once the government resumes.

-- National parks would be closed.

-- Most government websites would not be updated, unless they were deemed essential

Not the government websites!!!!!

How will we know what the First Lady recommends for breakfast?

[kilroy]

Wait. What government website is more essential than paying the military?

[WTF]

Actually, not paying the military is essential, so that it looks like the evul teabaggerz are hurting our brave troops. Shutting down websites applies no political pressure on the other team.

[kilroy]

Oh, I see. Essential in that sense.

[Sal Paradise]

"-- National parks would be closed."

Hey, you can't be in here, this is public property!

[Scooby]

--The Environmental Protection Agency would cease issuing permits and stop reviewing environmental impact statements which will slow approval of projects.

Slower than it already is? These reviews are already 12-18 month affairs.

[heller]

You've been keeping Salli James all to yourselves haven't you, Reason staff?

[Slap the Enlightened!]

Philadelphia Open-carrier Harassed by Police

Perhaps not as interesting as a gay caveman, but still...

[Old Mexican]

My Websense filter says that the link is filtered because of the category "Weapons." Imagine that...

[pancakes]

I knew open-carry is dangerous and only leads to an increase in violent encounters. This is why the police should be the only citizens allowed to own firearms. I like free markets and all that, but competition is really bad when it comes to lethal force. A monopoly is the only way for a sane society.

[Barely Suppressed Rage]

Try it again - this time with feeling. Make us *believe* it.

[waffles]

but more seriously, I doubt many H&Rers; can seriously condone open carry in an urban setting. This is the definition of asking for it

[WTF]

This is the definition of asking for it

Only because the Second Amendment has been eroded so much we now live in a hoplophobic society.

[Barely Suppressed Rage]

Things that will never cease to generate vituperative rhetoric, with no resolution of anything:

1. Abortion
2. Open vs. concealed carry

... etc...

[Nick]

If everyone did it, it would just be The Way. I encourage that.

[Lefty WTF]

If everyone did it, it would just be The Way. I encourage that.

Wild west shoot-outs!! Blood in the streets!! SOMALIA!!!1111!!!!!

[Gray Ghost]

In Philadelphia of all places makes it even more a case of "What were you thinking? Were it legal, I could see open carry in urban areas like Houston, Dallas, Phoenix, Reno, other places that are somewhat gun-friendly...but Philly?!

Hey, he wants to be the gun lobby's Rosa Parks, have at it.

[mad libertarian guy]

I don't see the purpose, but I can condone it.

Asked for it like the dogs that get shot during SWAT raids maybe.

[Tim]

I posted this yesterday PM, but here it is again because it really is remarkable that industry is giving us a heavy lift booster in 2013. At it's peak NASA's Constellation heavy lifter was way out toward 2020.

http://cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com.....-big-thing

[Tim]

ANd cheaper:
"'Everyday low prices'
The big difference is cost: The price tag for a Falcon Heavy launch is estimated at $80 million to $125 million, compared with up to $187 million for an Atlas 5 and roughly $1 billion for a shuttle mission. The result is that the cost of putting payloads into orbit could approach $1,000 per pound, which has been a mythical price point for access to outer space. "It's not so mythical any more," Musk said."

[SugarFree]

$1,000 per pound

Wow. That means we could launch rather into space for as little as $350,000!

[Abdul]

Where do we send the contributions?

[waffles]

everytime I read this, "FAAAAAALLCON PUNCH!!!"

It's more awesome each time.

[Brett L]

Tim, I have as big a hardon for private space as anyone on this board, but Constellation's LEO delivery weight was 150 tons, not 50. We ain't there yet.

[Tim]

There's more good news at the end.
"The Falcon Heavy doesn't quite satisfy the requirements that Congress laid out for the heavy-lift rocket it wants NASA to build by 2016 for exploration beyond Earth orbit. The legislation requires a payload capacity of 70 to 100 metric tons. In January, NASA signaled that it couldn't build such a rocket within Congress' budget and timetable. However, the space agency promised to provide a more detailed report after sifting through a sheaf of feasibility studies, including one conducted by SpaceX.

Musk said SpaceX has been looking into the design of a "super heavy" rocket that could put 150 metric tons into low Earth orbit, or send Apollo-scale payloads to the moon or Mars. Such a rocket would be 50 percent more capable than the Saturn 5 and easily satisfy Congress' payload requirements.

"We're exploring with NASA how to do 150-metric-ton orbit capability, but do it rapidly" and at a cost of less than $1,000 per pound of payload, Musk said."

[Brett L]

Oh yeah, I know the Falcon X and Falcon XX are on the design board and slated to meet these concerns, but so is Constellation. Until they get a firm build date, I feel the need to be skeptical. Although if SpaceX were to go public, I'd buy all the stock I could.

[Tim]

Skeptical is what separates us from the unicorns.

[Barely Suppressed Rage]

Well, that and the horn.

[Nick]

It really pisses me off that Congress has a payload requirement. What the fuck do they know about what is or could be necessary?

I feel we just need the capability to ship all of them on a one way mission to Mars.

[Pro Libertate]

Awesome and very exciting news.

With a nearly 60-ton capacity, you could do a manned Moon mission in two launches.

Whether HLVs are actually necessary to exploring/exploiting the solar system is debatable. Smaller vehicles with multiple launches (along with other concepts like fuel depots) could likely do the same thing. . .for less.

Assuming the government doesn't meddle too much, this is another milestone in the true opening up of space. It'll get even better when other companies begin to compete in providing cheap access to orbit.

[P Brooks]

Not only that...

a government shutdown would halt the processing of tax returns and limit small business loans and government-guaranteed mortgages during peak home buying season.

Oh, the humanity!

[Jack's Sense of Disbelief]

There's enough of a home-buying season to warrant the term "peak"?

HA HA HA HA HA
*wipes away tears*

Good one.

[Old Mexican]

Election fraud allegations fly in close Wisconsin Supreme Court race

Obviously.

[DJF]

The same government which wants to run more and more of peoples lives can't even run a simple election without screwing it up.

[MNG]

Well duh, screaming election fraud is what the GOP does whenever they get results they don't like.

[OO]

and voter fraud...u know, widows signing their dead husbands line at the poll

[Citizen Nothing]

That's hilarious. Thanks, MNG spoofer!

[WTF]

Election fraud enough for you?

[R C Dean]

Well duh, screaming election fraud is what the GOP does whenever they get results they don't like the Dems miraculously pull out yet another razor-thin race amidst questionable polling practices.

Gosh, those Repubs. Such crybabies. Because the Dems would never, ever, cheat to win an election. To even allege such a thing is absurd.

[Citizen Nothing]

Nor would they ever cry "foul" over a close election.
Hehehe

[mad libertarian guy]

I have a SCOTUS decision from 2000 that says otherwise.

[Dung DOMight]

Should be very interesting to see how that all turns out. Wow.

http://www.being-anon.int.tc

[KMA]

Wisconsin citizens and election experts are questioning the veracity of the state's Supreme Court race, which the Associated Press reports left-wing legal activist JoAnne Kloppenburg won by 204 votes over Justice David Prosser, out of the more than 1.4 million votes.

On an estimated more than 10,000 ballots in Dane County, Wisconsin, where the state capital Madison is, voters selected only a pick in the Supreme Court race, while leaving even the hotly contested mayoral and county executive choices blank. That raises red flags for election experts like Scott St. Clair of the Freedom Foundation, a conservative think tank.

"This is the state that wrote the book on squeaker elections," St. Clair told The Daily Caller. "I wouldn't put it past somebody in Wisconsin to be selectively revealing ballots or conveniently finding ballots because this is the kind of stuff we've seen in the past before. I think it's also important to note that Wisconsin and Illinois are neighbors and how they vote in Chicago doesn't necessarily stop at the state line."

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2011/04.....z1IqWCIHM0

[Mike M.]

John Edwards suicidal according to close friends, says he would "rather kill himself" then go to jail.

Please, we've got to make this happen America.

[Warty]

He's back
A suicidal maniac

Any day when I can link two ST songs in one thread is a good day.

[Resto Druid FTW]

I must absolutely agree Warty. Now only if I can find a way to work in some "Waking the Dead" lyrics...

[Rock Action]

Way too late, way too dead a thread, but "Feel Like Shit..." was probably my favorite ST album. Vocals completely buried in the mix, just straining on the edge of anger/emo to be heard. Controlled By Hatred!

[Slim Shady]

Archaeologists discover the first gay caveman.

It's all part o' that left-wing hommaseckshul agenda, I tell ya!

OTOH:

The men would be buried alongside weapons, hammers and flint knives as well as several portions of food and drink to accompany them to the other side.

As it should be.

[Barely Suppressed Rage]

D'oh. Stupid joke name.

[KMA]

What would happen if gay marriage were legalized (SFW, pip):

http://lolsnaps.com/news/3629/0/

[AU H20]

The Feministing Response to Ryan's budget plan.

Also, Sugarfree: I TOOK YER JERB!!!!

[SugarFree]

Damn Gooback!

[AU H20]

Although, your disrespect of the Queendom is far more intriguing.

[Warty]

Cry the Earth.... a poem I wrote for global warming

n pain of greed and wanting more, more, more....
Cracking and braking its climate, wildlife all in gore...
The plague of man... Using, wasting and destroy...
This Eden... Garden... Earth... Its not a toy...

[SugarFree]

Earth... Its not a toy...

Neither... is... the... ellipsis...

[Warty]

Who was the dipshit liberal troll we had a few weeks ago who overused the fuck out of ellipses? I had a great time mocking him for referring to some scientific principle that he clearly didn't understand.

[SugarFree]

Are you thinking of the one that started every post with "hahaha"? Which tard was that? They are getting ephemera at this point.

[Warty]

Maybe...they all...run together...if you understodd the Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle, you'd understand why. Shannon encoding!

[Barely Suppressed Rage]

"braking its climate"?

We're slowing it down?

And wildlife is all in gore? Is that Al Gore? Yecch.

[Warty]

I received an email a few days ago that sent an inspirational flame of fire to my soul. Oh, how I wish I would have kept it long enough to share it with you.

What a fucking goldmine.

[SugarFree]

The "my husband won't sleep with me" threads are the bestest EVAR!

Have you seen an Oprah audience? I wouldn't fuck most of them with a cattle prod.

[Warty]

my husband has sex toys

What's a sportsheet, anyway?

[SugarFree]

A sheet for a bed that can be laced up under the mattresses and has wrist and ankle restraints.

Product Page

NSFP (Not Safe For Pip)

[mad libertarian guy]

It's also a manufacturer of sextoys in general.

[R C Dean]

There are an awful lot of alleged shenanigans in that Wisconsin vote.

Did ballots get illegally shredded in Mequon, which went big for Prosser?

Why were 10,000 more ballots cast for Kloppenburg in Dane County than were cast in the other races in that County?

Why were nearly all the late reporting districts big for Kloppenburg?

Wisconsin has a long history of weak voter fraud enforcement. There was a report, I believe from the AG, a couple of years ago that was brutally critical.

[Mike M.]

If democrats were anywhere near as skilled at governing and budgeting as they are at corruption and stealing elections, man what a country this would be.

[bush jr]

u said it mikey. thank gawd the supremes set em straight in florida

[cynical]

The Supremes helped the Democrats translate their vote stealing capabilities into a knack for competent governing?

[Rock Action]

u r not evn triing at this point, r u

[P Brooks]

The Falcon Heavy doesn't quite satisfy the requirements that Congress laid out for the heavy-lift rocket it wants NASA to build by 2016

Wait, whut?

Unless the Congress is planning to relocate to Mars (something of which I wholeheartedly approve), why the fuck are they "ordering" heavy lift rockets?

[Pro Libertate]

You've seen their secret plans!

[Brett L]

I think they're going to stick to the classic strategy of transporting other people who disagree with them. They lack the imagination to wish to wander Barsoom and meet Dejah Thoris.

Speaking of which, the movie version that was recently made was not as horrible as it could have been ("Warlord of Mars?").

[Tonio]

I'm surprised that nobody here made the obvious libertarian comment about the caveman burial: obviously a government job.

BTW, ProL, since you're convinced that the archaeologists are somehow wrong on this, what's your explanation?

[Pro Libertate]

Insufficient data for a meaningful answer.

[mad libertarian guy]

This.

Perhaps it's the article that lacking the requisite details, but the jump from "he's buried in a particular way generally reserved for women" to "oohhhh ooohhhh, he's TEH GAY!!" is a huge leap.

There could be tens of thousands of reasons WHY this dude was buried like a woman.

Need more evidence.

[sevo]

"Portugal Pleads for Rescue"
Gimme a *P*!
Gimme an *I*!
Gimme a *G*!
And coming your way soon, gimme an *S*!
One of these days, the slop's gonna run low.

[P Brooks]

Oddly enough, the Reuters article I just read makes no mention of any possible "improprieties" in the Wisconsin election.

Energized Concern Troll Legions FTW!

[Saro]

And Democracy for America [...] sent out a fundraising email within minutes of the unofficial tally asserting "We have the momentum ? now it's time to shut them out! ? we need to hit them hard ? right now ? while the energy is highest and deal a fatal blow."

I guess "violent" rhetoric is back in style for the left. Color me shocked. SHOCKED!

[Invisible Finger]

I'd go with "bureaucratic error" before I'd go with "first gay cave man". Unless I was more interested in making today's news than in accurate history.