The Logic of Eternal Intervention, Iraq Division
The Washington Post's omniscient voice explains the other day, with the dull calm of the serious parent explaining why you just have to keep on picking up after your little brother, why foreign intervention is a veritable Hotel Iraq, from which one can check out anytime one likes, but one can never leave:
According to an agreement negotiated by the Bush administration, all U.S. troops are to leave Iraq by the end of 2011. Though many expected that the two governments would negotiate a follow-on agreement for a limited American deployment, both Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki and President Obama have said repeatedly that they intend to stick to the plan. If they do, military experts warn, next year Iraq will lack critical defense capacities: It will be unable to defend its airspace or borders, protect oil shipments or platforms in the Persian Gulf, or partner with U.S. special forces in raids against al-Qaeda……
After the thousands of American lives lost and billions spent, it would be tragic if Iraq collapsed again into war or fell prey to Iran or other neighbors because of a security vacuum created by the U.S. withdrawal. Officials say that the White House has not ruled out the negotiation of a follow-on military presence. But the administration's position is that any such proposal must come from the Iraqi government.
For the moment, that doesn't look likely…..
With time running out, the United States should be looking for ways to get around this impasse. A NATO training mission already operates in Iraq and could be extended and expanded; so could a planned U.S. office of defense cooperation. At a minimum, U.S. officials and commanders should be briefing Iraq political leaders on the consequences of a full American withdrawal and disabusing them of any illusions that Mr. Obama will come forward with an initiative. If Mr. Maliki does bring himself to propose a new force agreement, it's likely he will delay as long as he can. The administration should be prepared to respond to a last-minute initiative.
Please, Mr. Maliki, the fate of Obama's being able to renege on his promises and mire us in an unaffordable occupation for all eternity is in your hands. Don't let us down. Remember who made you who you are today.
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next year Iraq will lack critical defense capacities: It will be unable to defend its airspace or borders, protect oil shipments or platforms in the Persian Gulf, or partner with U.S. special forces in raids against al-Qaeda
What exactly do people do in Iraq?
The country's roadside bomb industry is in a deep recession.
The insurgency can really be looked at as a fiscal stimulus program.
Maybe this is a plan to entice Iran into starting a war, and then we get in invade Iran. Mitebcool.
When we get out Germany and Japan?
Then I'll start to believe we might get out of Iraq.
Intervention today! Intervention tomorrow! Intervention forever!
Intervention today, intervention tomorrow... intervention forever!
Damn, twice this comment was caught as spam - WTF?
Intervention today, intervention tomorrow... intervention forever!
Go sell your goddamned war to somebody who wants the bloody thing!
BadaBING
[the sound of irony bouncing off your skull]
Frankly I would not be at all surprised if Obama were to abandon Iraq to the tender mercies of Iran.
Iraq is soooo last decade. We've got bigger cluster fucks to pursue now!!!
it would be tragic if Iraq collapsed again into war or fell prey to Iran or other neighbors because of a security vacuum created by the U.S. withdrawal Iraq not getting it's shit together.
Yeah they've had like 8 years. Just like the "too big to fail" banks who took stupid risks because they knew they would get bailed out, or a young adult who still lives at home because they know Mom and Dad wont' follow thru and kick them out on their own. We've been saying we'll get out of Iraq by a particular time, but always end up staying, so the Iraqis have no incentive to, as you well put it, get their shit together.
I shouldn't have been so snide; after all, the POST is accurately pointing out a foreign policy crisis the likes of which Americans have never faced: actually ENDING AN OCCUPATION. No wonder they are seeking any solution available.
I think your snideness is right on the mark.
The hawks out there refuse to leave any place we've ever defeated.
Germany...check
Italy...check
Japan...check
Philippines...check
Cuba...check
It just took us this long to get involved in a war in the middle east so we could set up franchises there, too. Hell, Libya could be our opportunity to go 4 for 5. Now if Hugo Chavez would play along and go haywire, we could go for a Royal Flush.
Alas, Clark Air Base and Subic Bay are no longer US installations having been kicked out of the Philippines based on a national referendum in the early 90s.
We can't leave Germany and Japan. Where will the soldiers pick up their European and Japanese souvenirs?
China. Where they make them.
The U.S. abandoned Clark after Mt. Pinatubo erupted, which also caused massive damage to Subic Bay. The Filipino Senate rejected theU.S.-Filipino treaty to continue the Subic Bay lease and the referendum was never held due to constitutional issues. Incidentally, the referendum was being pushed by the pro-U.S. Aquino government.
"After thousands of American lives lost and billions spent, it would be tragic if Iraq collapsed again into war or fell prey to . . . "
The phrases "throwing good money after bad," "tar baby," and "cut your losses" immediately come to mind.
Sunk costs.
That's all.
Yes, alas, after the billions spent. Thank God it was only billions and not more.
Hang on to those Confederate dollars. They'll be worth something some day!
The administration should be prepared to respond to a last-minute initiative.
"Uh, jeez, Mr. Maliki! We've already cleared security and there's the final boarding call. Really sorry, but gotta go now. 'Bye."
"After the thousands of American lives lost and billions spent, it would be tragic if Iraq collapsed again into war or fell prey to Iran or other neighbors because of a security vacuum created by the U.S. withdrawal."
Imagine there's no sunk costs
It isn't hard to do
Nothing to kill or die for
You may say that I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
*barf*
Sorry - Lennon makes me puke.
After the thousands of American lives lost and billions spent, it would be tragic if Iraq collapsed again into war or fell prey to Iran or other neighbors because of a security vacuum created by the U.S. withdrawal.
Our national honor is at stake in southeastcentral Asia. And the Middle East. And North Africa.
National honor is pretty damn expensive.
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That's some of the dumbest shit I have read in a while.
Real smart people working at the WaPo who haven't noticed that the vast majority of Iraqis want every last American out of their country.
And they must be brain damaged to think that Iran is going to attack a country that is ruled and will be ruled by their Shia brothers.
Fucking retards. If you didn't want the Shia in charge of Iraq, you shouldn't have backed the invasion. The minute 3-7 CAV crossed the border a Shia ruled Iraq was inevitable.
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