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Politics

Chinese People Power: A Primer

Jesse Walker | 2.20.2011 8:33 PM

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While our eyes are glued on the collapsing Qaddafi regime, the authorities in China are getting jittery about a Jasmine Revolution of their own:

Skittish domestic security officials responded with a mass show of force across China on Sunday after anonymous calls for protesters to stage a Chinese "Jasmine Revolution" went out over social media and microblogging outlets.

Although there were no reports of large demonstrations, the outsize government response highlighted China's nervousness at a time of spreading unrest in the Middle East aimed at overthrowing authoritarian governments.

The words "Jasmine Revolution," borrowed from the successful Tunisian revolt, were blocked on sites similar to Twitter and on Internet search engines, while cellphone users were unable to send out text messages to multiple recipients. A heavy police presence was reported in several Chinese cities.

In recent days, more than a dozen lawyers and rights activists have been rounded up, and scores of dissidents have reportedly been placed under varying forms of house arrest. At least two lawyers are still missing, family members and human rights advocates said Sunday.

In Beijing, a huge crowd formed outside a McDonald's in the heart of the capital on Sunday after messages went out listing it as one of 13 protest sites across the country….By 2 p.m., the planned start of the protests, hundreds of police officers had swarmed the area, a major shopping district popular with tourists.

At one point, the police surrounded a young man who had placed a jasmine flower on a planter outside the McDonald's, but he was released after the clamor drew journalists and photographers.

The would-be rebellion's name may have been inspired by the Middle Eastern revolts, but its roots go deeper than that. Wildcat protests have been a force in Chinese life for a while now. As Gordon Chang pointed out in 2006, the Tiananmen Square demonstrations

irrevocably changed the People's Republic. By the end of the 1990's, Chinese society was turbulent once more as individual protests, both in the countryside and the city, began attracting tens of thousands of participants. In early 2002, two of them -- one by oil workers in Daqing in the northeast and the other by factory hands in nearby Liaoyang -- may have reached the 100,000 mark. In late 2004, in China's southwest, about 100,000 peasants protested the seizure without compensation of land to build a hydroelectric plant in Sichuan province.

Protests have not only become bigger in size; they are now more numerous. In 1994, there were 10,000 such "mass incidents"; by 2003 there were 58,000; in 2004 and 2005 there were 74,000 and 87,000 respectively. This is according to official statistics, which undoubtedly undercount. According to the legal activist Jerome Cohen, a truer figure for the last year may be 150,000.

Virtually every segment in society (except, of course, senior Communist leaders and wealthy entrepreneurs) is participating in these public demonstrations. Almost anything, whether or not it is a genuine grievance, can trigger a sit-in, demonstration, or riot against party officials, village bosses, tax collectors, factory owners, or township cadres.

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Books Editor Jesse Walker is the author of Rebels on the Air and The United States of Paranoia.

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  1. ?   14 years ago

    The part where Nicholson uses his coke ray to zap a cherry bomb out of the Mexican cowboy's boot-with-spurs replica glass isn't in the U.S. cut.

  2. Eric   14 years ago

    I think you forgot the hat-tip there, Jesse.

    1. Jesse Walker   14 years ago

      Hat tip to whom? People are linking to the NYT piece all over, and I blogged the older article when it came out.

      1. Eric   14 years ago

        I was thinkin' SIV: http://reason.com/blog/2011/02.....nt_2145335

        1. Jesse Walker   14 years ago

          Didn't see it. Haven't been following that thread.

  3. Matt   14 years ago

    John Hudson?

  4. John C. Randolph   14 years ago

    I just hope that when the Red Dynasty is overthrown, it happens with as little bloodshed as possible.

    -jcr

    1. DNS   14 years ago

      I just hope that when the Red Dynasty is overthrown, it happens with as little bloodshed as possible.

      I agree wholeheartedly JCR. Given Mainland China's past record regarding insurrections, I am not optimistic. China has been smart to not mess with Hong Kong, and has left them relatively be (the principle being do not kill the golden goose). But the mainland population, overall, does not possess the bourgeois capital stick to swing. Granted, it is growing, but I fear the worst, given China's exceptionally poor record with dissidents.

      I wish I knew the name of the brave student in Tienamen Square that stood down the tank.

      1. Knoss   14 years ago

        i think the most unstable parts of China are the distant provinces and that independence movements like the one Ugyrestan (Xianxiang Province) are the going to be more successful than democracy movements.

      2. Nick   14 years ago

        We are all Tank Man.

    2. SIV   14 years ago

      ...I hope they, in addition to overthrowing their marxist masters, learn about a little manufacturing concept known as "quality control".
      God I miss Japanese manufacturing dominance.

      1. DNS   14 years ago

        Then this should interest you.

      2. Wallmart   14 years ago

        lies all lies

    3. Choad   14 years ago

      But, but, you don't understand. They have high speed rail there. High speed rail!!

      Don't take away the trains.

      TRAINS!!!!

    4. Marie Antoinette   14 years ago

      Word.

  5. Eric   14 years ago

    Well, that can't be right: I was assured that the ChiComs were running the best gummint evah, whatwith the trains and plans and, gosh, aren't the social engineers actual engineers and scientists instead of lawyers?

    1. Hugh Akston   14 years ago

      I find it endlessly entertaining that people in the developing world are demonstrating en masse to bring down the bloated authoritarian kleptocracies, but people in places like France, England, and Wisconsin are protesting the slightest reduction in the size of the Leviathan.

      1. Dello   14 years ago

        One of the definitions of "Westerner" is pansy-ass.

        1. Bobble Head   14 years ago

          (nods in agreement, shakes head in embarrassment)

    2. DNS   14 years ago

      I was assured that the ChiComs were running the best gummint evah, whatwith the trains and plans and, gosh, aren't the social engineers actual engineers and scientists instead of lawyers?

      It is perplexing Eric. This country has a purported Constitutional scholar at the helm and based on his two year performance, appears to have an unhealthy admiration for the ChiCom MO and appetite for the Yuan.

      Whereas the ChiCom arithmetic approach to governance failed to account for the intangible variable known as the desire for freedom.

      1. sevo   14 years ago

        HIGH-SPEED TRAINS!
        That's all.

        1. DNS   14 years ago

          So the The 0bama has train fetish. Would it not have been cheaper to buy him a bunch of these DVD's instead? I think all these progressives wanted Lionel trains as kids and got other stuff instead, nursing a lifelong grudge.

          1. Ska   14 years ago

            Baseball gloves and BB guns - but they just wanted a damn train set.

        2. Choad   14 years ago

          TRAAIINNSSS!!!

      2. smartass sob   14 years ago

        This country has a purported Constitutional scholar at the helm...

        Scholar? What does that mean - that he's an authority on all the ways that government has managed to work around or ignore the meaning of plain English for the last two hundred years?

    3. Brett L   14 years ago

      Not to worry, Tom Friedman will figure out a way to blame all of this on Global Warming if he hasn't already. The dude only has two clubs in his bag.

      1. PantsFan   14 years ago

        not a hard link for the likes of Mr. Friedman. Food prices are high(due to change in growing conditions, natch), ergo global warming.

        1. Eric   14 years ago

          Oh, I'm pretty sure Friedman's link gets hard for global warming and China.

          Ugh...

          1. BakedPenguin   14 years ago

            As soon as I saw the thread, I figured a Friedman call out was coming. I can see him in his Manhattan apartment, apple-tini in hand, screaming "NOOOOO!!!" at the TV news reports.

            1. Nick   14 years ago

              The article will be about how ungrateful the Chinese population is. "Authoritarians get things done!"

            2. Brett L   14 years ago

              I prefer one of those overhead views of his castle on Long Island with him screaming like the movie producer in The Godfather when he wakes up with the horse head.

  6. BenDU99   14 years ago

    I think that this is ultimately why all the China Hysteria people are wrong about China taking over the world and the US. The country is limited by its oppressive regime.

    1. Apogee   14 years ago

      The country is limited by its oppressive regime.

      Yes, but like the NoKo's, China is very nationalistic and if a distraction is viewed as the only way to stay in power, I wouldn't write off aggression just yet.

  7. Da Troof   14 years ago

    We should follow the example of China and cut the internet off here. Then all these stupid messages will stop getting through, and the only way to communicate will be bags of mail delivered by high speed rail!

  8. PantsFan   14 years ago

    I think the Chinese citizens will have better luck than the Libyans.
    I hear now that the Morrocans have joined in the fun.

    1. Dello   14 years ago

      Well, it IS what all the cool kids are doing these days...

  9. DanD   14 years ago

    For those of you who find this interesting, I highly recommend that you read the book "Oracle Bones" by Peter Hessler. It provides a ground-level view of life as a Chinese citizen, and it will give you some perspective on why people would revolt, how much the government is scared of it, and how such a revolt could materialize. Along the way, it has a myriad of interesting facts about Chinese history and culture.

    It's a completely different view than what you'll get from most American televised media and over-excited economic prophecy books.

    1. DNS   14 years ago

      It's a completely different view than what you'll get from most American televised media and over-excited economic prophecy books.

      I would find this fascinating. Is it anecdotal, or did Mr. Hessler actually live in Mainland China amongst the natives for an extended period of time? And is it strictly journalistic or does it have an ideological bent?

      1. DanD   14 years ago

        Hessler has lived in China for over ten years now. He takes a journalistic approach. There's definitely some opinion here and there, but if there's any ideological bias, it's directed against the Chinese government and its methods.

        It's not a tract espousing a particular view. Rather, it's mainly expository and ties past and present together in some pretty fascinating ways.

        Here's the amazon link:

        Link

        1. DNS   14 years ago

          Thank you DanDy DanD!

    2. sevo   14 years ago

      Dan,
      How recent is the book?

      1. sevo   14 years ago

        Oops; just saw the Amazon link.

  10. Mr Whipple   14 years ago

    Off topic.

    Oh noes. Those evil Koch brothers are behind the Wisconsin effort to kill public unions.

    C'mon, you knew it was just a matter of time, right? But from a Forbes publication? That's funny, because Steve Forbes is on the Board at FreedomWorks.

    http://blogs.forbes.com/rickun.....ic-unions/

    1. nekoxgirl   14 years ago

      I'm sick of hearing about the GD Koch brothers. Its not like Democrats don't get funding from outside sources too. Obama is obviously involved with all this to help him raise money in 2012. The unions give heavily to the Democratic party yet that's apparently not important to point out.

      1. yonemoto   14 years ago

        so which of the Koch brothers are you sleeping with?

      2. smartass sob   14 years ago

        The unions are the Democrat Party.

    2. zoltan   14 years ago

      The evil Koch brothers...who are behind funding for Reason and CATO, publications which regularly expose police brutality. There is no one more dedicated to funding people who expose these constitutional violations.

  11. P Brooks   14 years ago

    Mother Jones is reporting that much of the funding behind the Walker for Governor campaign came from none other than uber-conservatives, the infamous Koch Brothers.

    Well, if Mother Jones says it...

    I WANT TO BELEEEEEEEEEVE!

    1. zoltan   14 years ago

      Dude, X-Files Season 1 is on Netflix Watch Instantly! I am running through those now!

  12. DNS   14 years ago

    The Americans for Prosperity group, a Tea Party group that is a Koch Brothers front, has put up a website and petition called http://www.standwithwalker.com. The website attacks all collective bargaining ? not just for public employees' unions. Americans for Prosperity is also organizing a rally tomorrow in Wisconsin to support Gov. Walker.

    Why are the Koch Brothers so interested in Wisconsin? They are a major business player in the state.

    KOCHTOPUS!!one!1!!

    I find this article a bit ridiculous and lessening the collective bargaining power of private sector unions more will happen naturally. People still remember GM and productive sector unions would be insane to make unreasonable demands given the high unemployment rate. I wonder if Steve Forbes has business interests in WI and this a smear campaign to discredit Koch Industries. That said, Ungar is generally a hysterical gadfly and douche extraordinaire.

    1. Jesse Walker   14 years ago

      Am I missing something at that site? The only references to collective bargaining that I see there involve government workers. Where did Ungar get "all collective bargaining -- not just for public employees' unions"?

      1. DNS   14 years ago

        Reply fail. Please see my 10:48 post, Jesse.

    2. Vermont Gun Owner   14 years ago

      Calling them the Koch Brothers makes me keep expecting to find out they fight a giant turtle.

      1. affenkopf   14 years ago

        He's a Koopa not a turtle! (I've got nothing else to contribute)

  13. PantsFan   14 years ago

    Why can China have high speed rail and we can't?
    Here's a good reason

    1. Dello   14 years ago

      Required log in fail.

      1. sevo   14 years ago

        No log in required this morning. And it looks like high-speed rail was high-speed fraud.

  14. Reality   14 years ago

    Gordon Chang? Really?

    Quoting Gordon Chang about China is like quoting Naomi Klein about Thomas Friedman. He has been predicting the collapse of China for 20 plus years, it's his shtick.

    Fail!

  15. DNS   14 years ago

    I'm not sure Jesse. Ungar has a history of all sorts of journalistic and editorial silly putty on his hands. I posted this from Mr. Whipple's link upthread.

  16. Reality   14 years ago

    Damnit, I meant MILTON Friedman, not Thomas.

  17. Reality   14 years ago

    If anything, judging by events in Wisconsin and its rampant inequality and systemic collapse of its economic and political system, the next country to have a revolution is the USA, not China.

    1. Eric   14 years ago

      What's with the trolls who have a hard-on for China, and their predilection for ridiculous handles ("Reality"; "The Truth")?

      I miss the pro-Scandanavia/Europe trolls who were honest enough to troll with their real names.

      1. Maxx   14 years ago

        They could stomach more than a couple of visits worth logic.

        But they left a message for you.

        Get Ron Pual's cock out of your mouth. Get out of mama's basement.

        And get a life, you Jackwad

        1. Maxx   14 years ago

          And the sever squirrels really pissed them off.

  18. spur   14 years ago

    How do we know the folks protesting in China aren't spoiled wankers like those cheeseheads in Wisconsin - why are worker protests in China by default a good sign of liberalization and freedom and what not and what have you and workers protesting in Wisconsin a sign of all that is wrong with Exceptional America?

    1. DanD   14 years ago

      Because most of us who bother to read instead of having our opinions spoon-fed to us by rabble-rousers tend to understand on some level that there's a huge distinction between taxpayer-funded, grossly-overpaid, striking "public servants" raising absolute hell over marginal reductions to their cushy jobs, and a people that have lived under oppression by a government that has a history of killing tens of millions of its own citizens, immediately suppressing any hint of uprising with deadly force, fatally mismanaging natural resources, strangling individual efforts at prosperity, and lying to the entire world in the name of making itself look good.

      1. Reality   14 years ago

        So the second part refers to the USA, right? Because everything in it applies to the bloody, racist, imperialist history of God's Own Country,

        1. sevo   14 years ago

          Reality|2.20.11 @ 11:33PM|#
          "bullshitbullshitbullshitbullshitbullshit"
          FIFY, bozo.

        2. DanD   14 years ago

          The difference is that the US acknowledges these transgressions and allows their dissemination. And there is nothing, no thing in US history comparable to the Great Leap Forward. Why don't you look that up, Professor History?

          1. Reality   14 years ago

            The genocide of Native Americans and the African slave trade was many times worse, and seeing that Bush and Cheney are free despite having launched an illegal war that killed one million Iraqis and tortured people in secret prisons, Id say you havent lived up to your crimes quite yet!

            1. PantsFan   14 years ago

              you're nowhere near as fun as Herc Fuzzypants was. you can leave.

            2. John   14 years ago

              The slave trade and the wars against the Indians were minor league compared to the great leap forward. And if you are so worried about illegal wars, you might want to think about Tibet. OR does brown blood not matter to you?

              1. 4chan   14 years ago

                While its true that the Indian wars were 'minor' in terms of sheer deaths, how do you think the Frontier was 'settled', and why does the U.S. population looks virtually none like people south of the boarder that hasn't immigrated from the south? If you look up the old Congressional budgets ranging from 1820's to 1900 or so, you'll find that a significant part of the budget was dedicated to making sure United States settlers were 'protected' by wiping out Native Americans.

                1. Just Sayin' in Florida   14 years ago

                  why does the U.S. population looks virtually none like people south of the boarder

                  My neighborhood resembles Haitian tourists on a Cuban beach, being served cocktails by Mexicans.

                2. John   14 years ago

                  1. The US is bigger than Mexico and had a much larger European immigration.

                  2. The Native population was smaller in North America than Mexico.

                  1. 4chan   14 years ago

                    And it was regularly written into the budget for the U.S. to have money to fund to kill Indians.

                    The U.S. was really good at killing Indians, really really good at it.

                    1. .   14 years ago

                      The U.S. was really good at killing Indians, really really good at it.

                      Apparently not all that good at it - there are probably as many or more "Indians" or Native Americans around today than there was when the Pilgrims got here.

                    2. seguin   14 years ago

                      Is it really "genocide" when the great majority of deaths are directly attributable to communicable diseases?

                  2. Nick   14 years ago

                    John, please stop trying to muddle the situation with facts. Communism is worth it, or some bullshit.

            3. R C Dean   14 years ago

              The genocide of Native Americans and the African slave trade

              Both began before the US was founded, and the slave trade itself was ended before the Civil War.

              And, of course, neither Indians nor Africans were US citizens.

              1. 4chan   14 years ago

                And that makes it okay to kill Indians/Native Americans/Whatever you want to call them?

                1. Bored   14 years ago

                  Every country is built on blood, so what. Luckily we advanced past this stage a couple of hundred years before the Chinese.

                2. sevo   14 years ago

                  4chan|2.21.11 @ 11:45AM|#
                  "And that makes it okay to kill Indians/Native Americans/Whatever you want to call them?"

                  No, it doesn't.
                  If that's your point, you've got it. Now go away.

                  1. 4chan   14 years ago

                    Is this your website or something?

                    1. sevo   14 years ago

                      Or something. Got a problem? Tell it to someone who cares.

                    2. 4chan   14 years ago

                      I have to say you're not being reasonable.

                    3. .   14 years ago

                      Drink!

                3. .   14 years ago

                  If they are trying to kill you, yeah, that pretty much makes it okay to kill them. Leastways, that seems to be how both sides looked at the matter.

        3. R C Dean   14 years ago

          people that have lived under oppression by a government that has a history of killing tens of millions of its own citizens,

          Not the US.

          immediately suppressing any hint of uprising with deadly force,

          Not the US.

          fatally mismanaging natural resources,

          This is at least arguable, in the sense that the federal and many state governments have choked off assets to natural resources such as oil, natural gas, coal, etc.

          strangling individual efforts at prosperity,

          To a degree, yes. Moreso in large urban areas.

          and lying to the entire world in the name of making itself look good.

          Well, sure. Who doesn't?

    2. DNS   14 years ago

      Perhaps you could visit the link provided by DanD @ 10:12 and acquaint yourself more with the Chinese perspective.

  19. The Truth   14 years ago

    You people are morons. They're protesting for more high speed rails.

    The Yellow Peril is coming on a choo choo!

    1. PantsFan   14 years ago

      take yer meds ya spoof

    2. sevo   14 years ago

      Spoof. da troof is dumb, but that's beyond even da troof's dumb level.

      1. sevo   14 years ago

        But it turns out "reality's" dumb is far beyond da troof's

        1. DNS   14 years ago

          I would say, "Condom full of freshly spooged stupid?." But that would be uncivil.

  20. Reality   14 years ago

    Where would YOU rather live--Beijing, or East Baltimore?

    Guangdong, or Flint?

    Harbin, or Detroit?

    1. sevo   14 years ago

      Reality|2.20.11 @ 11:40PM|#
      "bullshitbullshitbullshitbullshit"
      FIFY

      1. Reality   14 years ago

        I see you cant answer a simple question.

        1. sevo   14 years ago

          Reality|2.20.11 @ 11:45PM|#
          "I see you cant answer a simple question."

          "Simple" doesn't describe it. "Stupid" gets close.

    2. sevo   14 years ago

      Reality|2.20.11 @ 11:40PM|#
      "Where would YOU rather live--Beijing, or East Baltimore?"

      Ever smell an average public restroom in China?
      So, bullshitbullshitbullshitbullshit.
      Nice to hear from you.

      1. Reality   14 years ago

        Ever seen the average STREET on East Baltimore?

    3. Eric   14 years ago

      Depends on which of those locations guarantees that I'll never have to run into you or yours.

      1. Eric   14 years ago

        Also, the correct comparisons are between Beijing and New York, Peking and Columbia, and Shanghai and LA/San Diego, and the q is, which you would rather live in if you're a ChiCom "citizen", not an American national.

    4. Rhywun   14 years ago

      Guess which cities can be left without asking permission of one's government superiors...?

    5. seguin   14 years ago

      I'd rather live in Dallas than all six.

  21. sevo   14 years ago

    Reality|2.20.11 @ 11:47PM|#
    "Ever seen the average STREET on East Baltimore?"

    Yes, ignoramus.

  22. SIV   14 years ago

    Alt-text fail. How 'bout a click through or an actual url? I can't right-click copy the meaningless shortened url.

  23. Yu Hu   14 years ago

    Where would you rather live - Baltimore or East Beijing?

    1. dmoynihan   14 years ago

      I'm a go w/ East Baltimore. Sure, the drunk frat kids make Fell's Point suck on weekends, and Canton's so corporate these days, but anywhere south of East Baltimore St. is fine.

      1. dmoynihan   14 years ago

        Beijing, on the other hand, has pollution so bad there's literally particulate matter in the air, an insane crime problem nobody talks about, and apartments are going for even more than the price I'm quoted for a condo I bought in Shanghai for my in-laws seven years ago. Then there's the Yellow Wind...

        Sure, it can be rough when the Jones Falls overflows, and maybe a body pops up in the Patapsco River, but it ain't that bad in Charm City. And you can still boat/eat the crabs, just not the mustardy innards.

        My wife also prefers East Baltimore, 'cuz fewer ladies'll check me out when I'm visiting the bookstore.

  24. Thomas Friedman   14 years ago

    Nooooooooooo!!!!

    Kill the revolution. The environment depends on it.

  25. I'll have a coke with that   14 years ago

    In Beijing, a huge crowd formed outside a McDonald's in the heart of the capital
    Is the Revoloution brought to you by McDonalds?

  26. Choad   14 years ago

    But, but, China has trains. TRAINS!!!!

    Only governments are smart enough to love trains. Voters are too stupid to know the perfection that is high speed rail.

    KILL THE REVOLUTION!!

  27. Amakudari   14 years ago

    How come China has a border fence and we don't? True heroes of industry.

    Best quote in the article:

    In his last months on the job, Mr. Liu had begun an aggressive program to deal with the debt by selling stakes in the railway to investors like large state-controlled banks.

    Best way to deal with the debt: sell it another government entity with more accounting leeway.

    1. Brett L   14 years ago

      Isn't the Chinese Border Fence a tourist attraction a morning's drive outside of Beijing now?

      1. sevo   14 years ago

        Yep. And there was a McDonalds.

  28. 4chan   14 years ago

    Does Sevo even try to argue?

    1. sevo   14 years ago

      4chan|2.21.11 @ 5:03AM|#
      "Does Sevo even try to argue?"

      Sorry, reserved for adults.

      1. 4chan   14 years ago

        No, seriously, I never seen you argue a point. Its like you're incapable. All I seen you do is say bullshit, bullshit, bullshit. Is that your favorite word?

        1. sevo   14 years ago

          4chan|2.21.11 @ 12:42PM|#
          "No, seriously, I never seen you argue a point."

          See below, 12.41.
          Post something that isn't bullshit and maybe you won't get called on bullshit.

  29. dorismlay   14 years ago

    Coupons using the website Printapons are visible on every page so that you don't miss an opportunity to save!

    1. Rather   14 years ago

      Thank God you posted that bit of good news cause they are all dropping dead:

      US scientists said Sunday there is strong evidence linking oral sex to cancer, and urged more study of how human papillomaviruses may be to blame for a rise in oral cancer among white men

      http://health.iafrica.com/news/707669.html

  30. NotSure   14 years ago

    White men only ??? This is another idiotic theory that claims that Africans, Asians etc. do not have oral sex.

    Does anyone seriously believe that eating pussy, somehow only evolved in Europe ? I remember once seeing pictures of the sexual antics of chimpanzees, the behaviour is older than humans themselves. Another stupid science study that needs its funding cut.

    1. Rather   14 years ago

      It acknowledges all races enjoy oral sex and they are unsure why oral cancer is a factor in the white male.

      A white man's obituary

      1. NotSure   14 years ago

        All it shows is how statistics can be twisted to make something completely unscientific into a looking like a scientific study.

      2. .   14 years ago

        Redwings bestow immunity. 🙂

        1. rather   14 years ago

          Congrats on earning your Red Wings Captain 😉

  31. Rather   14 years ago

    http://medicalcenter.osu.edu/m.....0/the-hpv-?-cancer-link.aspx

    I don't see any obvious errors

    1. Pop Culture Ref.   14 years ago

      These oysters are making me thirsty.

      1. Rather   14 years ago

        lol

  32. Vara   14 years ago

    The Novemeber LIO announced Libertarian-Liberal teams work in a push for Democracy in authoritarian countries and troubled areas. Been following at their Twitter and Facebook ( http://www.libertarian-international.org/ )

  33. Old Mexican   14 years ago

    In late 2004, in China's southwest, about 100,000 peasants protested the seizure without compensation of land to build a hydroelectric plant in Sichuan province.

    How dare these rubes stand in the way of progress!

    (Obviouly, when "progress" comes from private money, socialists go nuts; when it comes from public money, they elevate the works to world wonder status, like HIGH SPEED CHOO-CHOOs!)

  34. R C Dean   14 years ago

    about 100,000 peasants protested the seizure without compensation of land

    I'm genuinely curious about what legal rights peasants in this (nominally/formerly) Communist society have in the land they work.

    Does it even make sense to say it was "seized" by the State?

    1. sevo   14 years ago

      "Does it even make sense to say it was "seized" by the State?"

      Good point and one of the reasons China will have to change quite a bit to 'overtake' the US.
      *ALL* land in China is owned by the state. What an individual gets is some sort of 'contract' that says you have use of the land for X years.
      There's tons of unrealized capital in that 'un-owned' land.

      1. .   14 years ago

        What an individual gets is some sort of 'contract' that says you have use of the land for X years.

        In essence that is not terribly different from what we have here in the US.

  35. sevo   14 years ago

    "In essence that is not terribly different from what we have here in the US."

    Bullshit.

    1. CrackertyAssCracker   14 years ago

      Why do I have to pay ~5K dollars a year to live in a house I supposedly "own"?

      What happens if the federal government decides it wants to put high speed rail right over my property?

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  38. Cover Me, Porkins   14 years ago

    Imagine, a world populated by liberal democracies squabbling at most over trade, currencies and the World Cup. It will take a lot of time. I almost feel that I was born too soon.

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