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A Reason Holiday Sampler: Joe Biden, Christopher Hitchens, Electric Football, & Peace, Love & Misunderstanding

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We're off til Monday morning bright and early, so blogging, tweeting, and all other activity in these parts will be minimal to the maximum.

We wanted to leave you with some holiday cheer, however, so here's a sampling of Reason offerings over the years that relate to the Christmas season.

On behalf of the Reason staff, here's wishing you a great holiday.

And now, on with the show.

First up is our 2010 Christmas video, "A Joe Biden (War on) Christmas," which many early viewers took seriously (really, read the comments at our YouTube channel and then be very, very afraid for the future of your country).

Last year, we rolled out "Be Happy! Why this is the best holiday season ever," which didn't perplex viewers, though it enraged more than its fair share with its upbeat celebration of continuous toy improvement (CTI). Those of us who remember shock-tastic electric football games (clearly, the origin of today's over-the-top touchdown celebrations stem from the St. Vitus Dance-like gyrations of players too close to the corner of the field with the vibrator in it!) will beg to differ.

For some reason no one can quite remember, we skipped an actual Christmas video in 2008, though we did feature Christopher Hitchens at our Very Special, Very Secular Christmas Party in 2007, where the author of, most recently, Hitch-22, led the crowd in a dramatic reading and dolorous sing-along of Tom Lehrer's "Christmas Carol." Mr. Potter never treated George Bailey as tough as Hitchens' treats Santa Claus below.

Then there are the stories, the good old-fashioned writings we've produced over the years that are like carols not set to music or sung by roving bands of annoying, well, carolers.

Highlights include:

2008's "Peace, Love, & Misunderstanding: What's so funny about Christmas as a secular holiday," by Jacob Sullum.

2008's "Merry Christmas, Kwanzaa is Over," by Michael C. Moynihan.

2008's "The Fight Before Christmas: Why the War on Christmas is even less winnable than the War on Drugs," by Greg Beato.

2006's "Oy, Tannebaum: You've got your Christmas in my Chanukah," by Jacob Sullum.

2005's "Santa Claus Conquers the Martians: The War on Christmas is over. Guess who won," by Jesse Walker.

2004's "The True Spirit of Xmas: How 4/5 of the country became an oppressed minority," by Julian Sanchez.

And for a holiday-themed buzz-kill that remains as relevant as it did when it first ran in 2005, check out "Who Grew Your Tree?: If you like Christmas, thank an immigrant," by Jesse James DeConto and me, which calls attention to the hard-hearted and misguided immigration laws of these United States.

For readers employed by the TSA and other jobs with lots of down-time where concentration and attention really aren't required, check out every mention of Christmas at Reason.com by going here.

And as the year's end approacheth, two things to remember:

1. Reason's first-ever cruise sails from Florida January 30-February 6. It's chock full of Reason staffers (Welch, Sullum, Bailey, and myself), Reason contributors (Dalmia and de Rugy), and scintillating guest stars (Matt Ridley, Patri Friedman, and Ben Rast), and exotic ports of call (Puerto Rico, the Virgin Islands, the Lost City of Atlantis). It's also suprisingly affordable, with cabins that include meals and all Reason fees starting at around $1,500. Cheaper than a hotel, plus Matt Welch playing shuffleboard!

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  1. Merry Christmas! Have a prosperous New Year!

    1. I don’t get it.

      1. Which words don’t you understand?

      2. I *think* he meant “preposterous”.

        1. No way this is a real Max post. No venom, no hatred, no “go suck Ron Pual’s cock”… gotta be a spoof.

          1. It’s me. Have a little respect for Christmas, you fucking piece of shit.

            1. Another example of a happy atheist..more people should think like you.. their lives would be so very much richer and happier.

              I’m guessing mommy/daddy issues.

              1. Responded to the wrong poster.oops.

      3. You already got don’t ask don’t tell in your fishnets, quit your whining and get out of here.

        1. When will they repeal “Don’t Ax, Don’t Tell”?

    2. As noisy as they are on blogs, libertarians are actually few and far between in American politics. Any three can have six arguments, but can’t elect a dogcatcher.

      1. Why in the fuck would we need a publicly-elected dogcatcher? Wouldn’t it be easier for people to control their own animals and for property owners to enforce their own property rights if a violent dog comes on their land?

        Elect a dogcatcher. Hahaha. That would be among the first positions eliminated if we ever got control of even the smallest municipality.

        1. You prove once again that libertarians cannot see the big picture. The point is libertarians can’t get shit done even if that means undoing something someone else did.

          1. If by that comment and that handle you are angling for Libertarian cat herder, sign up for the next party convention and you should go far.

          2. It’s too late to work within the system, and too soon to shoot the bastards.

            At least half of the libertarians I know don’t vote because they don’t want to participate in a corrupt system. However, we were able to help get a man released from NJ State Prison on trumped up gun charges. The NJLP played a major role in that.

            So, fuck off, asshole.

            1. Mr. Whipple, your first sentence is a winner. Your second, third, and fourth weren’t so bad either.

              On the Mises Institute page there is some stuff about Frank Chodorov and the reasoning behind non-voting.

            2. You’re a worthless excuse for a human being because you disagree with me.

              1. Mr. Whipple, your first sentence is a winner.

                I stole that.

                his book is based upon the premise that, when government turns bad, the best people ultimately become criminals. The people don’t change; the laws do. Initiative, dissent, individual pleasures and exercise of one’s basic rights become “crimes”….The ideal citizen of a tyrannical state is the man or woman who bows in silent obedience in exchange for the status of a well?cared?for herd animal. Thinking people become the tyrants worst enemies. Before their thunder roars, there is a period of anticipation, in
                which more occurs than the literal?minded tyrant can ever understand. A few overt acts of sedition shatter the heavy peace. But the greater force, unrecognized, rolls forward in near silence, as millions of individuals quietly withdraw their consent from the state. The pundits call it apathy.They could not be more wrong.
                That time is now. And we are those people.

                http://newsgroups.derkeiler.co…..g00147.pdf

              2. We kicked the ass of the world’s greatest superpower, idiot.

      2. “A man is none the less a slave because he is allowed to choose a new master once in a term of years.”–Lysander Spooner

        1. Hurrah for anarchy!

  2. Merry Christmas Cosmotaria, Meeeerry Christmas!

  3. Merry Christmas Cosmotaria, Merry Christmas!

  4. I don’t understand the Biden video either. I get that it’s supposed to be funny and isn’t, but that’s all I get.

    1. Any time spent mocking Joe Biden is time well spent.

      1. It’s time to be patriotic jolly!

    2. The goofiest, lamest, most gaffe-prone and motormouthed VP this side of Dan Quayle needs to be mocked, ruthlessly, from every angle.

      1. Yeah, he’s almost as dumb as the sack of shit with big ears.

    1. That vid was pretty repulsive. They’re congratulating themselves for doing more stupid shit than any Congress in 50 years. “But, we did the mostest!

    2. The Nazi regime was considered by many to be the most productive in recent memory.

      1. You know who else was really produ…never mind…

    3. Most productive destructive Congress since Great Society

      FIFT

    4. Most productive destructive Congress since Great Society

      Fixed it.

  5. I consider this a lousy holiday season; various friends of mine have moved to parts of the country too far for a driving visit. Ordinarily I would say “So what? I’m finally prosperous enough that I can afford plane fare for vacations.” But what I cannot do is quietly submit to letting some molesting waste of human genetic material put its hands down my underwear before I fly. So unless and until the TSA is disbanded, I’ll never see my friends again. So what if this is looking to be the most materially rich Christmas I’ve had in a decade? Being poor but free is better than being a rich slave.

    1. I went through Sea-Tac, O’Hare, and Logan. No pornoscanners in sight. They’ve gotten the hint for this holiday season, at least. And I guarantee you Bradley and Providence don’t have them.

      1. They still have the legal right to do the molestation thing, Epi. Plus the right to pull any new regulation out of their asses anytime they wish. I woke up this morning feeling mellow’n’happy — it’s Christmas Eve, once the sun goes down tonight I get to exchange presents with my dear beloved … then I checked the news and discovered TSA has decided Thermos bottles are the latest terrorist threat. The TSA admitted there was no particular reason for this; presumably a bunch of TSA flunkies were sitting around smoking much better marijuana than ordinary people can ever get, and one of them coughed and said “Whooooaa, duuuude, y’know if a terr’ist had a Thermos bottle he could, like, do stuff with it.” Then the TSA flunky next to him snorted a fat line of coke off her three-inch-long fake fingernail, and shouted with a sudden burst of energy “Ohmigod ohmigod you’re right you’re right YOUARESOFUCKINGRIGHT we gotta ban the Thermos bottles gotta do it gotta do it GOTTA BAN THEM NOW!!”

        And those sniveling piles of shit likely got a bonus for their awesome contributions to national security, too.

        1. Every time the TSA goons yank some new indignity out of their collective asses, I see someone go to the airport and interview people, and the prevailing attitude seems to be, “If this is what it takes to keep us safe…” I still have a functioning TV because I have moved all the heavy objects out of reach of my nest area. I can feel blood vessels popping in my skull. NO, you fucking retards! They’re doing this instead of the things that will actually keep you safe!

          Sadly, before I started reading reason, I would have been one of those people. I never realized how many of my cherished assumptions were not only wrong, but dangerously wrong. If you can get to me, you can get to nearly anyone. You will have to keep hammering, hammering, hammering at them until they get it. Keep the faith, reasonoids, and never, never give up.

          1. Totally me there. If you post a comment on Christmas Eve that starts with, “Every time X does Y,…” you are legally obligated to make a It’s a Wonderful Life joke.

            1. I plead ignorance, and I think my posting history will back me up on that.

              Noodly appendages, etc., etc.

          2. Every time the TSA goons yank some new indignity out of their collective asses, I see someone go to the airport and interview people, and the prevailing attitude seems to be, “If this is what it takes to keep us safe…”

            Too bad they don’t show the twenty people that call it bullshit before finding the sheeple that endorses it.

            More evidence that the MSM is just pro state propaganda.

        2. Somehow, Jennifer’s scenario is more appealing than the brainless, groupthink-inspired bureaucratic fart that probably was the actual cause of this new rule.

        3. next reason tv skit?

        4. It’s Catch-22…

    2. Is it Christmas or Martyr’s Day?

  6. I turned on MSNBC (Why? I do not know) this morning, and there was some moron huffing and puffing about the Thermos Bottle Menace.

    What the fuck is wrong with these people? They should bring Janet Napolitano on, mock her mercilessly, and then throw donuts at her until she waddles off the set in tears.

    1. But then they would lose their precious access.

  7. Since we mind as well make this the link dump thread for the weekend, Jack Shafer is on an anti-net neutrality roll:

    http://www.slate.com/id/2278626/
    http://www.slate.com/id/2279106/

  8. Merry Christmas Bitches!

  9. Gang bangers, social misfits, malcontents, weirdos, miscreants, deviants and perverts are now the majority, and zealots that hear and spin the voice of god will be given anti-psychotic medication. Sixty percent of Americans are searching for a better orgasm, and they are not going to be deprived of it because of laws made by religious fanatics.

    1. Ahhh, the obligatory anti faith rant on the holiest of days from yet another disaffected, pouting “athiest”.

      Great timing, how’s the acne battle going?

      1. Good. How’s that relevent comment coming along?

  10. Jimmy McMillan from the “The Rent Is Too Damn High Party,” is running for president.
    The tag line: “Tell Obama I’m coming after his black ass.”

    1. That’s racism straight… aaah, never mind.

      Merry Christmas once again, contributors of Cosmotaria! See y’all once again when this year is mercifully over.

  11. “A Joe Biden (War on) Christmas,” which many early viewers took seriously

    You mean they thought it was funny? ROFLPINOCHET
    Seriously, that video is just stunningly ill-conceived and shitty in a way you guys apparently can’t understand, like how “Chocolate Rain” dude has no idea that he sucks. It literally isn’t anything.

    Did you recently get an office weed vaporizer?

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  13. Merry Krishna and a Happy Buddha.

  14. Was it Hitchens that coined the phrase

    Avoid hangovers, stay drunk.

    I know there’s Stoli in that water bottle.

    1. Not that there’s anything wrong with that.

      1. Just make sure it’s not Old Formula Four Loko. The TSA goons would probably just shoot you right on the spot.

  15. Wow, thats amazing, who comes up wiuth all this stuff??

    online-privacy.ie.tc

    1. I know, right?

  16. The true meaning of Christmas is that a Jewish virgin was raped by an invisible being who lives in the sky.They had a son who grew up to be a human sacrifice who came back to life after crucifixion.If you believe that story you go to heaven for eternity and if you don’t believe it you burn in hell forever.Merry Christmas.

    1. Yes Virginia, there is a Santa Clause…and an Easter Wabbit, a Tooth Fairy, and a horny old priest that wants you to sit on his lap.

    2. First, bob, I believe there was consent on Mary’s part. Second, those of us believe that God lives all around us and in each of our hearts, challenging us to be better men and women. Yes, we do believe their son gave his life for our sins and did come back to life after three days. I believe there were stories attesting to the resurrection penned by multiple non-believers and skeptics as well as his followers.
      And, yes, we believe that if you accept that Jesus died for your sins, your salvation is guaranteed.

      I guess I fail to understand your need to ridicule Christianity. I can’t find your rants in the archives where you belittle Judaism, Islam, Hinduism, Buddhism, Sikhism, Zoroastrianism, Neo-Paganism, Scientology, Unitarianism, and the like.

      Oh, I get it. You just need to be a hater.

      FYI, the true meaning of Christmas is to celebrate the gifts we have been given and to spend time with those we love. Some of us watch some basketball, some of us try to play with the toys we bought our kids. Some of us play golf. Some of us get drunk. (I usually end up doing all four.) Oh, and I’m able to celebrate it without infringing on your liberty, so fuck off and have a Merry Christmas.

      1. I guess I fail to understand your need to ridicule Christianity.

        Call it exercising Free Speech. Are you offended? Too fucking bad. There’s nothing in the Constitution that says you have a right to not be offended.

        1. Consider Whip:
          You could abandon your lifelong role as a punk and show us some real courage. Rather than taunt the “turn the other cheek crowd” anonymously, I know a mosque or two in E. Dearborn that you could parade in front of on a daily basis (at least for a while) with an equally demeaning caricature of Mohammed.
          Include please your photo, your address and social security number, and really, really excercise your “rights”.
          We would then all know what a consistantly committed and courageous lad you truly are.

          1. I know a mosque or two in E. Dearborn that you could parade in front of on a daily basis (at least for a while) with an equally demeaning caricature of Mohammed.

            Perhaps it would be better if I walked into a Christian church and shot an abortion doctor to death, in the name of God.

            Yeah, like it’s my lifelong dream to go to fucking Dearborn, Michigan.

            1. Short visit is my guess, assuming the stretch you have the nutsack you claim.

    3. I assume you will be burning in hell. Forever.

  17. Merry Christmas my Rh?mite friends! With Lew Rockwell’s and the ghost of Murray Rothbard’s help, you’ll push us pesky Joos into the sea.

    Here is my latest musical offering to you: Winter Wonderland

    Peace and love from Underzog

    “There’s no need to fear. Underzog is here!”

    1. Your playing is awful, and you forgot to call us fags, dipshit.

      By the way, how does it feel to be a colossal failure, fat man?

    2. “Underzog” means “undersurmountable irrational victim complex” in Hebrew.

    3. Rh?mite friends!

      Personally, I hated Elizabeth Rh?m on Law & Order.

      1. hot lesbian with tiny boobs? What’s not to like?

  18. I Believe In Father Christmas

    They said there’ll be snow at Christmas
    They said there’ll be Peace on Earth
    But instead it just kept on raining
    A veil of tears for the Virgin birth
    I remember one Christmas morning
    A winters light and a distant choir
    And the peal of a bell and that Christmas Tree smell
    And eyes full of tinsel and fire

    They sold me a dream of Christmas
    They sold me a Silent Night
    And they told me a fairy story
    ‘Till I believed in the Israelite
    And I believed in Father Christmas
    And I looked to the sky with excited eyes
    ‘Till I woke with a yawn in the first light of dawn
    And I saw him and through his disguise

    I wish you a hopeful Christmas
    I wish you a brave New Year
    All anguish pain and sadness
    Leave your heart and let your road be clear
    They said there’ll be snow at Christmas
    They said there’ll be peace on Earth
    Hallelujah Noel be it Heaven or Hell
    The Christmas we get we deserve

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ml3G2TWnRcg

    1. Best rock/pop Christmas tune ever. Haven’t seen that vid for a couple years. Thanks!

      OK nothing happened so I’m going to hit submit again so if this post twice you’ll know the squirrels are working Christmas day.

  19. It is Christmas. What is the matter with you guys?

    Do you feel that I don’t have enough praise about your Muslim terrorist buddies who are murdering you (courtesy of John Muhammed) and me?

    Well, you’re wrong about that too, Rh?mites. I found this nice song, Jihad Bells, for you to enjoy.

    They may chop off your head and ban alcohol, but you’ll get free hashish under the worldwide caliphate.

    Love,

    Underzog

    “There’s no need to fear. Underzog is here!

    1. Why don’t you sing about Mr. Hankey?

      1. Yes. And let’s remember the REAL reason for Christmas – that Jesus saved Santa Claus from the Iranians.

        AMEN!

        1. Or Iraqis. Whatever – they all look alike. AMEN!

      2. Mr. Hanky, the Christmas Poo, he lives me and I love you, therefore vicariously he loves you, even if you’re a Jew. Sometimes he’s nutty, sometimes he’s corny, he can be brown or greenish brown, but if you eat fiber on Christmas eve, he may come to your town.

  20. And for a gift that’ll keep on giving unintended consequences, or a satire taken directly from Atlas Shrugged, the Feds have now decreed new fishing limits:
    A “boat” which has caught say 10% of the ‘purple-eyed weasel fish’ is not now allowed to exceed that catch. Not the fisherman, the “boat”. All sorts of possibilities here, and they’re all ‘unintended’
    http://www.npr.org/2010/12/23/…..mmentBlock

  21. Merry Christmas from the Western Branch of the Chesapeake.

  22. Jesus. Anonymity Guy and Underzoggy back on the same thread? Since we’re doing blasts from the past, let me “reprint” some blogpimping.

  23. How novel and avant garde of Reason to continuously shove a sharp stick in the eyes of those who believe and hope…apparently against hope that you will! For those of you who still celebrate Christmas enjoy some Advent readings/commentary by Dietrich Bonhoeffer through the following web link:

    http://www.christianitytoday.c…..-11.0.html

    1. Oh shit, another victim. Part of the poor 70-80% persecuted majority of this country. Whey don’t you get together with Underzog and trade notes on your victimhood? Like him, you obviously couldn’t be bothered to take the time to actually read the links, or your precious preconceptions might be shaken up. Maybe you two can find someone to sue after you finish wiping away each other’s tears.

    2. “For those of you who still celebrate Christmas enjoy some Advent readings/commentary by Dietrich Bonhoeffer through the following web link:
      http://www.christianitytoday.c…..-11.0.html”

      And for those who find such superstitions amusing:
      http://www.venganza.org/

    3. How novel and avant garde of Reason to continuously shove a sharp stick in the eyes of those who believe and hope…apparently against hope that you will!

      What is this sentence supposed to be saying? Maybe you should pray to your god for some writing ability.

  24. read the comments at our YouTube channel and then be very, very afraid

    I read a few. They’re no better or worse than what I see here. In fact, they seem to have been written by the same people.

    1. The reason all those YouTube users are bitching can be summed up with one comment that I saw there. With this video, Reason chooses participate in the war of political hit-pieces. I like reading Reason and hold many of the same values that this site holds, but I wasn’t amused by the Biden video (and some of the other Reason-made videos for similar reasons) because all it does is attack without making any real arguments or promoting any real ideas. There’s no intellectual purpose behind this video.

      And some might say that it’s no big deal and that it’s just Reason having some holiday fun. But why waste time and effort on a video for destructive purposes when it could be so much better-spent?

      1. all it does is attack without making any real arguments or promoting any real ideas. There’s no intellectual purpose

        The blogosphere in a nutshell.

      2. All politicians need to be taken down a few pegs from time to time. Call it a reminder that we’re the bosses, not them.

        We ought to call them “boy” and “girl”, too, and order them around.

        1. Great. Remind them of that through elections and the nominations against them of candidates who are better at getting us what we want. Not through pointless insult videos.

  25. Another happy atheist pointing the way to peace and happiness.

    Wife left you for a woman eh?

    1. Jick Gibblets|12.25.10 @ 7:42PM|#
      “Another happy atheist pointing the way to peace and happiness.
      Wife left you for a woman eh?”

      ‘Nother brain-dead bleever trying to justify bleef in imaginary friends? Did your sky-daddy spit on you today?

  26. According to the AFP, as cited in an Israel National News article (http://www.israelnatonalnews.com) you are racist if you don’t want a Christmas Tree in the government owned town square.

    1. It is so sick. Athiests are supposed to be for reason, science; etc., and of the three religions they cleave to the one that explicitly opposes reason and logic; e.g., Allah’s hand is not chained.

      I don’t know what is the matter with these clowns. Are their minds eaten out with the narcotic drugs they defend and take?

      Whatever their problem is, the American people have shown good sense in not electing Libertarians to much of anything.

      So Judaism sucks and Christianity sucks, eh? Maybe one or more of these Libertarians will come out and parade around as the goddess of reason as Robespierre did.

      1. Underzog|12.25.10 @ 10:30PM|#
        “It is so sick. Athiests are supposed to be for reason, science; etc., and of the three religions they cleave to the one that explicitly opposes reason and logic; e.g., Allah’s hand is not chained.”
        Uh, your fantasy means nothing to this non-bleever.I’d suggest cashing a reality check.

      2. So, what kind of existential threat to Israel was the USS Liberty?

        Was their commander-in-chief a Rohmite so that made it okay?

        1. None, Nancy Boy. The article was about the AFP blasting Israel for a single town deciding to not have Christmas trees on government owned town squares in one Israeli town.

          Israel has not made any statement about the USS Liberty. Israel respects American sovereignty. It would be nice if more Americans like you reciprocated that policy.

          1. ” Israel respects American sovereignty.”

            If you ignore their efforts to get tons of US financial, military and diplomatic support from our pols then you’re right…

            “It would be nice if more Americans like you reciprocated that policy.”

            Sorry, if they ask us to pay their bills we are going to get ideas we can tell them what to do with themselves. Dependents and all that.

            1. About a half dozen nations get over 1 billion per year in USA foreign aid each year. Can you name them MNG? If not, then I doubt you care about foreign aid in general. You only get upset when Israel is involved.

              1. Anti-Semitism charges, the first refuge of the Likudian scoundrel…

                I can name several who get such aid, though neither you or I can name any that gets as much as Israel (3 billion+ as you knew when you coyly stated “1 billion or more”). Interestingly Egypt gets quite a bit, part of the price of our bribe to them to make nice with…yep, Israel. Pakistan, Afghanistan and Iraq get a bundle too, as we are involved in wars in those areas with Muslims who hate us in large part because of our support for…yep, Israel.

                Costly, entangling alliance indeed!

                1. Hey! MNG! Did that misnamed Human Rights Watch get the money it was seeking from the Arabs for bashing Israel yet?

                  Sleazes!

                  And speaking of anti-Semitism, how is Mark Garlasco doing these days? In case no one knows who that guy is, Mark Garlasco is the Human Rights Watch fellow who bashes Israel (as they all do) and rolls around in Nazi memorabilia. It was a big embarrassment for the misnamed Human Rights Watch when Garlasco was busted for his Nazi loving behavior.

                  Human Rights Watch uses its anti Israel Cred to raise Saudi Money

                  As for Human Rights Watch being anti-Semitic, they’re even clumsy about it (snicker): Nazi Scandal enfulfs Human Rights Watch

                  Human Rights Watch isn’t anti-Semitic — no no nnnnooooooooooo.

                  “There’s no need to fear. Underzog is here!”

                2. “Interestingly Egypt gets quite a bit, part of the price of our bribe to them to make nice with…yep, Israel.”
                  So when the facts don’t fit your argument, you make up a ‘reason’ that they might?
                  By your ‘reasoning’, any aid going to the mid-east is support for Israel; ever heard of ‘non-falsifiable’?

                3. MNG, in your case the anti-Semitism charge sticks. Also the moron charge.

                4. MNG, just looking at the partial list, we send much more to Muslim countries out of the fear of terror then we send to Israel. The aid package to Israel is compensation for Israel giving back the Sinai Peninsula for the second time.

                  By the way, I’m all for ending all aid to all countries, but that isn’t what you called for. You only gripe about Israel. You don’t mention those aid dollars when there is a post about Egypt. I would be happy if my tax dollars stopped supporting other governments around the World.

      3. Underzog, when the tone of you writing is that harsh, your comments do more harm than good.

        1. Crippers! If I say some truth and it bothers the many anti-Semites here, all they have to do is smoke a bong and the unpleasant feelings caused by the truth go away.

          I guess illegal, narcotic drugs have their uses afterall.

      4. It is so sick. Atheists are supposed to be for reason, science; etc., and of the three religions they cleave to the one that explicitly opposes reason and logic; e.g., Allah’s hand is not chained.

        Look, Christians won’t cut your head off for drawing a picture of Jesus. It’s just pure cowardice, and nothing more.

        One of the biggest reasons why I have so much respect for Hitchens even though I might disagree with him in many cases is that, unlike almost all of the other atheists and leftists, he has balls.

        1. That is a good point Mike, but they can’t cut everyone’s head off.

          And living life as a coward is not all that great a life anyway.

        2. + 1 to Mike M.

  27. 91% of Americans celebrate Xmas yet we’re supposed to pay attention to the 9% that don’t? Christopher Hitchens is a bore.
    http://libertarians4freedom.bl…..er-be.html

    1. I celebrated Christmas today and didn’t pay attention to the 9% of America that don’t. For that matter, I only paid attention to a fraction of a percent of the 91% that do…the ones that are related to me.

      I really couldn’t care less about the debate other than the costs to taxpayers associated with it. Every government bureaucrat who is a hardcore atheist pisses my money away defending irrational bans of free speech and every government bureaucrat who is a hardcore SoCon pisses my money away by imposing his beliefs on others creating lawsuits from rightfully indignant atheists.

      Oh, and you wrote bore where I think you meant to write dickhead.

      1. “Every government bureaucrat who is a hardcore atheist pisses my money away defending irrational bans of free speech”
        Pretty sure you mean:
        “Prevents taxpayer money being spent to support a silly superstition”, right?

        1. No, I meant what I said. These things could be hashed out by the 95% of Americans who deal with these things rationally.
          Give me a scenario where the money goes to support a silly superstition and I’d be willing to bet I can point out an extremist on either end of the pro- and anti-Christmas debate involved in the case at hand.
          Also, it is the very rare exception where taxpayer money is used to support either side of this argument. Usually, the argument made by atheists is that beliefs are being “forced” upon them. As if I could force anybody to believe something by exposing them to it.
          Conversely, the SoCons tend to do about the same thing from the opposite end.

          No need for the smugness. But you appear to be an ideologue when it comes to this and want to restrict the free speech and assembly rights of those who follow a, ahem, silly superstition, as you put it.

          No offense, but do you think taxpayer money is used to erect nativity scenes on public property? If not, do you still want to restrict the speech of those who donate or erect it? Just curious.

          1. sloopyinca|12.25.10 @ 11:26PM|#
            “No, I meant what I said…”
            So you’re a liar or a fool.

            “No need for the smugness. But you appear to be an ideologue when it comes to this and want to restrict the free speech and assembly rights of those who follow a, ahem, silly superstition, as you put it.”
            I get it; a fool.

            “No offense, but do you think taxpayer money is used to erect nativity scenes on public property?”
            Put it up on your own damn land.

            1. Don’t be such an ass, servo. Like it or not, this country was founded as a Christian nation, and very soon (when we get rid of the black Muslim and his moronic lackeys) it will become one again. Deal with it.

      2. Yeah, I meant to write “dickhead” but I was being nice. While I’m not even a Christian, I like the Xmas celebrations. I like multicolored Xmas lights instead of the boring white lights. I like refering to Xmas as Xmas instead of “Winter Solstice” or “Festivus.” I love nativity scenes in public lands as long as they’re paid with private dollars. Yet all that is becoming politically incorrect. In America it used to be that if you didn’t want to participate you didn’t have to. Yet now every minority that doesn’t participate wants others not to participate as well. I read on USA Today an argument about getting rid of all religious holidays so nobody feels excluded. Excuse me, but it’s part of life to be excluded. Fat chicks are excluded from cheerleading teams, men are excluded from Hooters waitressing jobs, people with perfect SAT scores are excluded from Harvard all the time.

        http://libertarians4freedom.bl…..-land.html

        1. “…I love nativity scenes in public lands as long as they’re paid with private dollars. Yet all that is becoming politically incorrect….”
          Along with a nice “We think infantile superstitions are harmful” sign on public lands? But that’s politically incorrect, right?

          1. No, it’s rude hateful and selfish.

          2. No, it’s rude hateful and selfish.

    2. +10 Pil and sloopyinca
      The fact that Hitchens’ anti-Christmas speech got published during Christmas weekend disproves his whole whine. Yes, even that speech relates to Christmas, but who’s fault is that. The 91% that celebrate Christmas didn’t choose Hitchens’ topic; he did. If Hitchens would stop complaining about the Theists long enough to build some Atheist culture, he could give a speech that doesn’t mention theism at all. Take a cue from Ayn Rand, one of the most successful Atheists of the 20th Century. Produce something that is inspiring in its own right and not merely a collection of complaints.

      1. “If Hitchens would stop complaining about the Theists long enough to build some Atheist culture,…”
        This is sort of like the ‘Pubs were supposed to respond to Hag-Care with a socialist plan of their own because, well, ‘they’ were doing it?
        There is no such thing as an ‘atheist culture’. Not bleeving in stupidity doesn’t require a ‘culture’, just a brain.

        1. so when are you going to use yours?

  28. “If Hitchens would stop complaining about the Theists long enough to build some Atheist culture, he could give a speech that doesn’t mention theism at all.”

    If I don’t bleeve in Santa Claus, do I need to build some Non-Santa-Claus-Bleever culture, or just point out that bleeving in Santa Claus is pretty silly?

    1. If I don’t bleeve in Santa Claus, do I need to build some Non-Santa-Claus-Bleever culture, or just point out that bleeving in Santa Claus is pretty silly?

      You could always do neither and mind your own fucking business.

      1. You could always do neither and mind your own fucking business.

        So, you would like to prevent the free exchange of thoughts and ideas?

      2. “You could always do neither and mind your own fucking business.”
        Yep, and you could keep your infantile superstitions to yourself.

    2. Sevo, you get farther by building your own house than by tearing down another person’s house. You are free to ignore my advice. I predict that spending your time laughing at Theists will result in you leaving a very small trace on this planet and that spending your time building up an Atheist culture will result in you leaving a larger trace on this planet. The path you take is up to you.

      1. “…spending your time building up an Atheist culture will result in you leaving a larger trace on this planet….”
        ‘Movements’ make me nervous; they usually end up with some ‘hero’ or ‘savior’ telling people what to do; i.e. a thug.

        1. Movements’ make me nervous; they usually end up with some ‘hero’ or ‘savior’ telling people what to do; i.e. a thug.
          True. That’s why I like to stick with my traditions. I can follow my traditions on my own and build a culture based on them without joining any movement. I light candles on Shabbat on my own without belonging to any church.

  29. Reason FTW. No better way to out a so-con than to bring up some random religous holiday BS. As if Reason editors are government bearucrats, so-cons happily fall on their own swords.

  30. BUREACRATS….them too!

  31. Joe Biden represents the new breed of super moron politicians. He represents the new political style, which seeks to find the great big public clit and stimulate it by any means necessary. While Joe isn’t quite able to find the clit on this fat bitch we call the USA, his buddy Obama is an experienced chubby chaser and he can stimulate that bitch we call America like a multi-trillion dollar dildo with both deep penetrating length and clit satisfying girth. Its just too bad that hes shooting blanks.

    Yes, I am high. Merry Christmas one and all.

  32. Hitch at his worst. Self-congratulatory snarkiness aimed at a room full of sadsters that aren’t celebating their own achievement or thoughts, but worshiping the cult of “bring your neighbor down.” An unholy holier than thou! 🙂 And with unoriginal material to boot. Thankfully this kind of drivel is not his legacy.

    1. “…but worshiping the cult of “bring your neighbor down….”
      Aw, what a shame! Terrible that people laugh at silly things.

      1. Nothing wrong with a good laugh, but self-congratulatory betterism just isn’t mush my style. Hitch is great. This is not. In my view.

      2. Sevo, I think watching that Hitch video requires a sense of humor.

        1. “Sevo, I think watching that Hitch video requires a sense of humor.”
          I think you’re mis-reading the nested thread; I’m laughing, others aren’t.

  33. Limber up your googling fingers; TSA intimidators and law enforcement professionals have swooped down on an airline pilot who put videos they disapproved of on youtube.

    Makes ya proud.

    1. Thanks God we’re safe from that menace of a pilot! Now I can get my molestin’ at the airport secure in the knowledge that we’re Safe From Teh Trrrrrrrists?.

      Thanks, TSA!

      1. No one likes to have their dirty laundry aired in public. Wouldn’t we all like to have the power to retaliate so decisively against those who would embarrass us? Instead of complaining about Napolitano, we should each be aspiring to that level of righteous vindictiveness.

  34. Baffling

    “We haven’t had a successful terrorist event, but there’s a lot of luck involved in that,” says Brian Levin, director of the Center for the Study of Hate & Extremism at California State University, San Bernardino. “It’s my belief that we are going to have a successful, moderate intensity, significant casualty attack sooner rather than later. Those of us in the monitoring community are completely flummoxed by the fact that it hasn’t happened yet.”

    “Center for the Study of Hate & Extremism at California State University, San Bernardino”?

    All aboard the Gravy Train! Woo woooooooow!

    1. We wanted to call it the California Assessment Symposia of Hate Committee Of the Whole, but for some reason that name was voted down.

  35. Terror Level is High, Citizens!

    The Terror Pork Industry Association is pants-pissingly afraid their complete ineffectualness and incompetence will be exposed.

    1. But, but, but there hasn’t been another attack. Another successful attack. THE BRACELETS ARE WORKING!!!

  36. Here’s a little holiday humor via CNN.

    Iran’s experiment with reaganomics

    http://www.cnn.com/2010/OPINIO…..=allsearch

    1. “…Ahmadinejad’s neoliberal economics share another thing with President Ronald Reagan’s policies….”
      So any ‘leader’ who cuts subsidies and increases military spending is practicing ‘reaganomics’? I guess Raul is now the ‘new’ Reagan?

  37. George Will wrote a pretty pedestrian column on the coming state debt crisis. It does little but state the obvious. The comments are one giant pile of stupid. Did you guys know it is the war that is causing states to go bankrupt? Or that it is the Republican leaders in Washington and Reagan who are the cause of California’s problems?

    Read them and laugh because that is the only alternative to crying.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/…..ments.html

    1. Yeah, I read that, too. And the comments. Reading comments like those causes me concern about my fellow citizens….

    2. The US has its own version of PIIGS. Anybody else see the parallels?

      1. There is no reason in principle that one must have absolute sovereignty over oneself and property acquired through labor or consensual interactions.

        There is no contradiction in libertarianism being false.

  38. Krugabe says you’re an idiot (or worse) if you think the government is expanding.
    Spoiler alert: “Won’t somebody think of the poor teachers and policemen?!”

    When discussing the alleged huge expansion of government under Mr. Obama, I’ve repeatedly found that people just won’t believe me when I try to point out that it never happened. They assume that I’m lying, or somehow cherry-picking the data.

    *makes “stunned disbelief” face*

    1. I’m trying to read the comments to that article, but I’m not having much luck. Does Google translate to English from Marxist yet?

      1. This one is pure gold.

        As long as the majority of Americans are still living indoors and eating human food, certain plutocrats will not rest, most notably billionaire anti-Social Security propagandist Pete Peterson.

        Please read the story about Prichard, Alabama. Retired firefighters losing their $12K/year pensions and taking their own lives. Now hedge funds can invest that $12K in China and their managers(including Peterson) pay only 15% taxes on their fees. That’s the society Peterson desires and envisions for the rest of the US.

        1. Correction – Peterson will not be satisfied until —–> SOMALIA!!!!1!

          Also, good morning America, how are you?

  39. How novel and avant garde of Reason to continuously shove a sharp stick in the eyes of those who believe and hope…apparently against hope that you will!

    What is this sentence supposed to be saying? Maybe you should pray to your god for some writing ability.

  40. merry christmas to you and you family!

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  42. Yeah, I read that, too. And the comments. Reading comments like those causes me concern about my fellow citizens….

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