Renewable Energy Policy Conundrum: Candlemakers' Petition or Broken Windows Fallacy?
From the industry newsletter Nucleonics Week (subscription required):
Eight German municipal utilities have filed a complaint with the European Commission against lifetime extension for the country's nuclear reactors, charging that it is anti-competitive and makes their investment in renewable energy unprofitable.
On October 28 the lower house of Germnay's parliament, the Bundestag, approved a bill with amendments to the nuclear law that allow the country's 17 operating nuclear reactors to continue operating after 2022. All of the units were scheduled to be shut by that date.
The amendments allow reactors that went online before 1980 to operate for eight more years and those that went into operation after 1980 to run for 14 more years.
In a statement on November 11, Albert Filbert, chief executive of the HSE power company [and spokesman for the 8 utilities], said the utilities believe they are "victims" of that decision and that they will lose about Eur4.5 billion (USS6.1 billion) if the reactors continue to operate. Nuclear power will make electricity from renewable energy too expensive to be competitive, he said.
First, how in hell is keeping perfectly OK nuclear power plants in operation "anti-competitive?" This petition by German renewable energy companies reminded me of French economist Frederic Bastiat's famous Candlemakers' Petition in which producers of artificial light urged the French government to outlaw the sun because of its ruinous competition. I think you'll see the similarity:
We ask you to be so good as to pass a law requiring the closing of all windows, dormers, skylights, inside and outside shutters, curtains, casements, bull's-eyes, deadlights, and blinds — in short, all openings, holes, chinks, and fissures through which the light of the sun is wont to enter houses, to the detriment of the fair industries with which, we are proud to say, we have endowed the country, a country that cannot, without betraying ingratitude, abandon us today to so unequal a combat.
And as Bastiat's petitioners argued, shutting down cheaper energy, "Produces more jobs."
First, if you shut off as much as possible all access to natural light, and thereby create a need for artificial light, what industry in France will not ultimately be encouraged?
If France consumes more tallow, there will have to be more cattle and sheep, and, consequently, we shall see an increase in cleared fields, meat, wool, leather, and especially manure, the basis of all agricultural wealth.
If France consumes more oil, we shall see an expansion in the cultivation of the poppy, the olive, and rapeseed. These rich yet soil-exhausting plants will come at just the right time to enable us to put to profitable use the increased fertility that the breeding of cattle will impart to the land.
Our moors will be covered with resinous trees. Numerous swarms of bees will gather from our mountains the perfumed treasures that today waste their fragrance, like the flowers from which they emanate. Thus, there is not one branch of agriculture that would not undergo a great expansion.
The same holds true of shipping. Thousands of vessels will engage in whaling, and in a short time we shall have a fleet capable of upholding the honour of France and of gratifying the patriotic aspirations of the undersigned petitioners, chandlers, etc.
Or is the petition of the German renewable energy industry more of an example of a broken windows fallacy energy policy?
Hat tip to Steve Frantz.
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"We ask you to be so good as to pass a law requiring the closing of all windows, dormers, skylights, inside and outside shutters, curtains, casements, bull's-eyes, deadlights, and blinds ? in short, all openings, holes, chinks, and fissures through which the light of the sun is wont to enter houses, to the detriment of the fair industries with which, we are proud to say, we have endowed the country, a country that cannot, without betraying ingratitude, abandon us today to so unequal a combat."
I believe this falls under the Interstate Commerce Clause.
I thought *not* covering the windows falls under the ICC?
Now you're getting it, dude...they both do. Everything does!
Are you saying it's both a floor wax and a dessert topping?
Just imagine a retard raping himself... forever.
Gawd, that's so ironic. Is that a vintage concept?
I got it at a thrift shop, so I guess it's vintage.
I got it at a thrift shop
FUCKING HIPSTERS!!111oneoneone
Well it's new to me.
Just imagine a retard raping himself... forever.
Don't have to imagine it, we see Choad do it on a regular basis.
Not covering the windows is the activity that the candlemakers were requesting the state to "regulate".
Well, sunlight does pass across borders...
There is no jurisdictional border between the surface of earth and the sun. In theory, the jurisdiction of a state government extends from the center of the earth to the farthest reaches of the universe that happen to be above it.
Actually, the jurisdictional border of outer space is defined by the 1967 Outer Space Treaty.
There are also air space jurisdictions set, although vague when not determining what government owns (lol own air), they exist.
lol own air
Pro-tip: the passcode to access the air is 12345.
That's the kind of password that an idiot has on his luggage.
The same kind of idiot who tries to own the atmosphere.
Or the Sun:
Spanish Woman Claims Ownership of the Sun, Plans to Begin Charging for Use
http://www.minyanville.com/dai.....ership-of/
If I remember correctly the rule is everything you can use above your property, everything else is not claimed.
Case about bombers and chickens or some shit.
Tell the FAA. They get real shitty if I try high power rocketry without clearances. I can use that space, so it's mine, right?
shrug, I'm pretty sure that's still the standard.
And let's not get into the FCC's response when I start blasting my spark gaps. Oh, wait, I guess if my interference reaches someone else's property...ok, nevermind.
they just own the waves. not the medium for the waves. silly
[note to self, change my luggage password]
More pure Atlas Shrugged on display. It's frankly scary.
what industry in France will not ultimately be encouraged?
Plus fire departments, burn hospitals, optometrists...
This is on par with a Balko nut punch
No dogs...
I guess you could expand the argument to mandatory dog euthanasia at age 5. Think of the business opportunities for those who have invested in breeding kennels.
Planned Obsolescence for Pets. Brilliant!
Oh, wait, that's just congenital-defect-filled purebreds.
My ACK German shepherd dog and I just spent our fifteenth Thanksgiving together. If she makes it another twenty days, she'll be 100-years-old in dog years. Yesterday she ate a plate of Chinese food. Today, she'll be getting her first (and last) McRib sandwich ever.
German Engineering makes your breed an exception, Skid.
Germans know how to build things. I bet she beautiful. Best dogs ever!!
They apparently also know how to destroy things, judging by WWI, WWII and the nuke proposal.
And Labs are the Best Dog EVER?
Everyone loves their dog breed.
West Highland White Terriers. If it's not Scottish, it's crap!
terrier. UGH!! I grew up with a dog that was part Westie. The little bastard was indomitable. If you could keep from killing the hard headed little sucker, you really had to respect him. Because he wasn't interested in anyone's approval and didn't back from anything. If he had been the size of the German Shepherds we would have all been in big trouble.
Honestly, that's part of the problem with the big terriers like AmStaffs. They have the same personalities as the smaller terriers and the muscle to do something. All terriers have a huge chunk of don't-give-a-damn stubborn baked into the personalities.
West Highland White Terriers. If it's not Scottish, it's a trap!
Once again, I like my misreading better.
Got one of those too. But unlike my shepherd, eating anything other than dog food make him sick. I suspect that's because German shepherds are closer to wolves, which have to eat whatever they can find.
"I bet she beautiful"
A bet you would win.
As posted here before:
http://www.dogster.com/dogs/142533
I see the Reason Gear Girl is back on the pipe. Sad. Very sad.
Yes, SAD usually does kick in at this time of year.
and that they will lose about Eur4.5 billion (USS6.1 billion) if the reactors continue to operate.
Any word on how much money goes down the drain by decommissioning a plant that's still up to spec?
Assume an average reactor construction cost of $6 billion. A loss of 10 years out of a possible 50, would be $1.25 billion per reactor. Times 17, that's at least $21 billion. Never mind that the consumer will have to pay more for the renewable electricity generation as well.
But teh externalities!
Like, the externalities of closing down operational facilities that probably haven't paid off their investment yet?
I have a small bit of sympathy here. If you have a decision that these reactors are giong off line at a certain time, and you invest accordingly, well, they've just gotten screwed because the government changed their mind. But the real mistake was the initial schedule. Not fixing it would be another wrong. A mistake was made and at this point, no matter what, someone is getting screwed over it.
Would this can then be similar to a regulatory taking?
"This petition by German renewable energy companies reminded me of French economist Frederic Bastiat's famous Candlemakers' Petition in which producers of artificial light urged the French government to outlaw the sun because of its ruinous competition."
Ironic, since it's the people using sunlight who want to shut down the competition.
The irony burns bright!
Can we harness it for renewable power though?
That would be ironic....therefore....RENEWABLE RESOURCE!
Brilliant, wylie.
I try.
Just wait until I'm done blocking out the sun.
Uh, before people get carried away: The "Candlemaker's Petition" was a satire produced by Bastiat, not a genuine call for government protection.
Oh great... Now you're going to tell me that "A Modest Proposal" wasn't serious either.
Turns out gingers are too spicy.
I always thought Dean Swift was bang on, whatever his intentions.
OTOH, a few of the comments posted earlier made me suspect that some posters were not aware of Bastiat and his writings.
You're probably right. Hell, I wasn't aware of Bastiat myself, though I am VERY familiar with Mr. Burns' plot to block out the sun.
We can no longer, as a civilized society, turn a blind eye to the irresponsible proliferation of unlicensed satire which has infiltrated even our most hallowed institutions of literature. A regulation is in order, Sirs!
Stop. Giving. Them. Ideas.
US to Bailout EU
http://www.marketwatch.com/sto.....2010-12-01
Sweet, so they bail us out when we go bankrupt, too, right?
yeah. it is kind of a perpetual motion machine. And those always work right?
It's the circle, the circle of life.
It's the circle jerk, the circle jerk of life.
fify
I had a feeling someone would beat me to this.
This is no fallacy - the window in that picture is definitely broken.
I coulda swore it was a photo of a candle. At the very least, it somewhat resembles a streetlight.
The same way keeping the borders open to trade is "anti-competitive" for the non-competitive (i.e. unprofitable) native businesses.
Rent-seekers need not to provide logical arguments, only appeals to empathy. Statist fucks do this all the time, BTW...
Very Off Topic:
A study found that people who drank a glass of lemonade sweetened with sugar acted less aggressively toward a stranger a few minutes later than did people who consumed lemonade with a sugar substitute.
http://www.sciencedaily.com/re.....161535.htm
And the kindest of all were the ones who consumed lemonade with fermented sugar.
No, the kindest of all were those who used the really expensive 'sugar' that they purchased from the kid on the corner.
from the kid on the corner.
The kid who's doing MUCH better business than the lemonade stand. Sounds like it's time for some protectionism, wooo!
d the utilities believe they are "victims" of that decision and that they will lose about Eur4
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